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Election Archive => 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on April 24, 2012, 01:40:04 PM



Title: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Tender Branson on April 24, 2012, 01:40:04 PM
Mitt Romney.................................................... 50%
Barack Obama................................................ 43%

Romney-Perry................................................. 50%
Obama-Biden.................................................. 45%

Ron Paul ......................................................... 47%
Barack Obama................................................ 43%

Newt Gingrich ................................................. 47%
Barack Obama................................................ 45%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_TX_424.pdf


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Joe Republic on April 24, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
I like that adding Perry to the ticket does nothing for Romney's numbers, and actually increases Obama's.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 24, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
I know this is PPP, but I can't help but smell an outlier.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Tender Branson on April 24, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
I like that adding Perry to the ticket does nothing for Romney's numbers, and actually increases Obama's.

Perry's approval rating is actually worse than Obama's, so this poll makes sense.

It's also in line with previous polls.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: greenforest32 on April 24, 2012, 01:54:55 PM
I think the 2012 Republican margin of victory in Texas will be near or below the 2008 margin and will decrease in 2016.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Democrats won Texas in 2020/2024? That would probably be the only thing that would get Republicans behind abolishing the Electoral College.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on April 24, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
Could Democrats flip Texas to their side this year?


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Joe Republic on April 24, 2012, 01:56:58 PM
Could Democrats flip Texas to their side this year?

Short answer: No.  Long answer: No.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: marvelrobbins on April 24, 2012, 03:30:48 PM
with growing Hispanic numbers and republicans ailenation of them It wouldn't be surprising for Obama to lose by single digets.The day will come when Texas could be competive by a democrat
again just not Obama.If Perry runs for governor again In 2014 If It Isn't another 2010 he could
actully lose or might even lose during primary.Also Intresting that Romney does better than
Paul In Texas.While Obama gets the same 3 percent who say they would vote for Romney move Into undeceded with Paul.Of course we know Romney Is the nominee but still Intresting.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on April 24, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
Could Democrats flip Texas to their side this year?

Short answer: No.  Long answer: No.

Chasing after Texas literally makes no sense for the Obama campaign. It's an expensive, expansive state, campaigning there is highly unlikely to flip it, and his presence might actually hurt Democrats downballot.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Miles on April 24, 2012, 03:41:20 PM
"Obama leads Romney 56-34 with Hispanics..."

Seems kinda low to me. I thought Obama would be at least cracking 60%.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 24, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
You could've polled the Republican Senate primary, guys.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Miles on April 24, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
You could've polled the Republican Senate primary, guys.

They'll probably have primary numbers out in a day or two, as always.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: The Mikado on April 24, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
Obama's ceiling in Texas is the 44-46% range.  These numbers really don't surprise me, given the pretty strict rule that undecideds in TX always come home to the GOP.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 24, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
Texas won't go D. By the time it would have, Republicans will have gotten their demographics sh**t together, and won't be alienating the white-collar yuppies moving into the Sunbelt.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Chaddyr23 on April 24, 2012, 10:09:35 PM
I think TX will be competitive come 2020. I mean the overwhelming growth in the last ten years is from legal hispanics and more liberal whites. If Hispanics voted in the same percentages as whites then I think TX woulda been competitive a lot sooner.

I can't see the R's getting their demographic game in check when the line up is Santorum and Christie and Ryan


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on April 24, 2012, 10:49:29 PM
Could Democrats flip Texas to their side this year?

After seeing this, it's a very real possibility.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 24, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
I like how adding Rick Perry to the ticket would hurt Romney's margin.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: pbrower2a on April 25, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
Texas probably represents about the 410th to 440th electoral votes in an Obama landslide. It goes to President Obama only in the event of a Romney or GOP collapse. The combination of Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin is roughly the mirror image of Texas in this respect. It has likely gone from the fringe of "overpoweringly R" to "decisively R". It could have gone from a state that Republicans can reliably take by double digits to one that Republicans will be lucky to take by high single digits.

A fair warning is to be made about any poll involving Texas: the state is so diverse, straddling regions of the US and containing areas that are poor analogues of any other part of America, and it is so large that fair samples of the state are hard to get. Any poll of Texas, even if it is by a pollster well-regarded elsewhere, is unreliable; even comparisons to polls by the same pollster are suspect.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 25, 2012, 06:08:28 AM
Could Democrats flip Texas to their side this year?

After seeing this, it's a very real possibility.
You know, you're like a liberal hillary2012.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Miles on April 25, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
You could've polled the Republican Senate primary, guys.

They'll probably have primary numbers out in a day or two, as always.

Here we go. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/04/cruz-closing-in-on-dewhurst.html)


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 25, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=4820120422108


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 25, 2012, 04:17:27 PM
"Obama leads Romney 56-34 with Hispanics..."

Seems kinda low to me. I thought Obama would be at least cracking 60%.

Texas Hispanics are rather more Republican than average.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: The_Texas_Libertarian on April 27, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
This election year Texas won't vote Democratic unless there is a major 400+ electoral vote landslide. 


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on April 27, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
They'll be a 400+ landslide.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Holmes on April 27, 2012, 12:59:14 PM
Romney's already at 50. He'll get the remaining undecideds.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: perdedor on April 28, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
It would be interesting to see the Republicans try to do electoral math without Texas. That said, fat chance.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on April 28, 2012, 05:26:09 PM
Nice how Perry is actually a net negative for Romney here. lol Perry Fail.


Romney probably gets 55% to 60%.



Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on April 28, 2012, 05:27:50 PM
It would be interesting to see the Republicans try to do electoral math without Texas. That said, fat chance.
Romney's going to win Texas, and probably by a fairly comfortable margin. Let's not kid ourselves. It might be a swing state by 2020 or 2024, but not 2012.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: Bacon King on April 29, 2012, 01:53:25 PM
Obama's ceiling in Texas is the 44-46% range.  These numbers really don't surprise me, given the pretty strict rule that undecideds in TX always come home to the GOP.

The poll's crosstabs highlight this. Here are the undecideds in the ideological breakdown of the Obama/Romney matchup:

0% of "very liberal"
1% of "somewhat liberal"
12% of "moderate"
9% of "somewhat conservative"
5% of "very conservative"


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: The Mikado on April 29, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Exactly.  The best case for Obama in TX would be something like Romney 54, Obama 45.  I don't think Obama would do that well, mind.  I said that that's the best realistic scenario.


Title: Re: TX-PPP: Romney by only 7
Post by: perdedor on May 02, 2012, 11:25:45 AM
It would be interesting to see the Republicans try to do electoral math without Texas. That said, fat chance.
Romney's going to win Texas, and probably by a fairly comfortable margin. Let's not kid ourselves. It might be a swing state by 2020 or 2024, but not 2012.

Hence the "fat chance". ;)