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Title: Eating dogs
Post by: politicus on April 26, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
Inspired by the "Obama ate a dog" story.

I have eaten dog meat at Vietnamese restaurants in Laos and at a friends home in Korea and had no trouble doing it (and it tastes pretty good..). But a lot of people are really outraged by the thought. What do you say, is it OK to eat dogs?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 26, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
It's certainly not okay with me.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: They put it to a vote and they just kept lying on April 26, 2012, 03:36:43 PM


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on April 26, 2012, 06:05:58 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: dead0man on April 26, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
Sure, I wouldn't, but I don't really care if you do (as long as it's not somebody's pet/property, but that should go without saying and would be true about any edible thing from apples to cattle).


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Oakvale on April 26, 2012, 07:02:13 PM
I eat other animals, so, sure, why not?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Frodo on April 26, 2012, 07:11:58 PM
Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  Having had one for nearly 15 years, I know they are more than just pets.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'.  


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: politicus on April 26, 2012, 07:18:41 PM
Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'. 
But doesnt that depend on the context? In the Western world we treat dogs as family members, but in other countries it is considered a domestic animal much like a pig (which is just as intelligent as a dog).


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Frodo on April 26, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'. 
But doesnt that depend on the context? In the Western world we treat dogs as family members, but in other countries it is considered a domestic animal much like a pig (which is just as intelligent as a dog).

If you ever had one, you'd be surprised at how intelligent dogs can really be...   


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: dead0man on April 26, 2012, 07:31:12 PM
But again, pigs are smart, we have no problem eating them.  I'm not going to eat any dog (unless it's the only thing around), but I'm not going to judge negatively people that do.  Again, as long as it's not somebody else's dog.  It's kind of like flag burning (or Koran or Bible or anything else humans give way too much importance to sometimes) that way, I'm not going to burn a flag, but making a law that bans it is restricting the freedoms of others.  But you can't steal some other dude's flag and burn it.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 26, 2012, 07:54:19 PM
Eating dog isn't so much the problem as raising dogs to be eaten.  Raising herbivores for meat is wasteful as it is, but carnivores is worse as it is doubly inefficient, and I doubt the meat is tastier than herbivore meat.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: fezzyfestoon on April 26, 2012, 08:02:51 PM
It obviously makes me extremely uncomfortable and I don't know that I could stomach being around it but I can't think of a logical reason to be opposed.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: courts on April 26, 2012, 08:12:14 PM
Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'. 
But doesnt that depend on the context? In the Western world we treat dogs as family members, but in other countries it is considered a domestic animal much like a pig (which is just as intelligent as a dog).

If you ever had one, you'd be surprised at how intelligent dogs can really be...   

Except they rarely eat what westerners would consider to be standard breeds. They eat wild dogs, basically the equivalent of a coyote. And dogs vary in intelligence anyway.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 26, 2012, 08:14:53 PM
I see no reason why I can kill a pig and eat it, but not a dog...not that I want to eat dog though.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: opebo on April 26, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
Oh I would never eat a dog!  That is just terrible.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: bgwah on April 26, 2012, 10:31:42 PM
No! but no hot dogs for me, please.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: tmthforu94 on April 26, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
Absolutely not. I'd eat dirt before I even thought about eating my dogs.

Only hotdogs though when they're the high quality ones, not the nasty Oscar Meyers (I think that's the one).


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: tpfkaw on April 26, 2012, 11:34:03 PM
Legally it should be, morally... eh.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: 5280 on April 27, 2012, 12:56:51 AM
I'm not against eating dogs, but I sure as heck wouldn't eat them myself.  The sound of it grosses me out.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 03:43:16 AM
I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: LastVoter on April 27, 2012, 03:51:59 AM
It's fine, but I would never eat them, and would be very disgusted if I saw someone eating them knowingly in my presence.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: ZuWo on April 27, 2012, 04:48:52 AM
I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

Are people supposed to say they eat pigs, cows and chicken but they would never on earth eat dogs? Is that more enlightened?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 05:12:06 AM
I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

Are people supposed to say they eat pigs, cows and chicken but they would never on earth eat dogs? Is that more enlightened?

It's certainly a lot less stupid to not eat domesticated, intelligent, loving animals. And, of course, you're free to not eat any of the animals above which would be ideal.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Insula Dei on April 27, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 05:18:52 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Insula Dei on April 27, 2012, 05:23:21 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Insula Dei on April 27, 2012, 05:35:21 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owns a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?

Well, you don't keep pets to eat them. Some people have a pet pig (and pigs are more intelligent than dogs, etc. etc.). Should we stop eating pork? I can see why you would have some reservations about eating dogs yourself. I personally don't like qualis because they look like someone commited a bird massacre on your plate. Still, I'm not offended by other people eating quails.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 05:44:07 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owned a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 27, 2012, 05:44:24 AM
I love dogs and I don't think I'd ever voluntarily eat one.

Yet, speaking on Obama story, we should keep in mind that it took place in a country, where eating dogs is very usual. Also, he was a pre-teen, who was given a dog meat by his stepfather. Therefore, I'm not going to condemn him for this.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 05:45:12 AM
Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owns a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?

Well, you don't keep pets to eat them. Some people have a pet pig (and pigs are more intelligent than dogs, etc. etc.). Should we stop eating pork? I can see why you would have some reservations about eating dogs yourself. I personally don't like qualis because they look like someone commited a bird massacre on your plate. Still, I'm not offended by other people eating quails.

I think the idea that pigs are smarter than dogs is pretty debatable. But as for the question, yes, you should stop eating pork. I did.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 05:51:13 AM
I love dogs and I don't think I'd ever voluntarily eat one.

Yet, speaking on Obama story, we should keep in mind that it took place in a country, where eating dogs is very usual. Also, he was a pre-teen, who was given a dog meat by his stepfather. Therefore, I'm not going to condemn him for this.

Oh, I basically give Obama a pass on it too. He was a young child at the time and was being given various meats to eat by an adult. I knew about the story before I voted for him in '08.

It's only been dredged up by Republicans to distract people from W. Mitt Romney, the adult dog torturer.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: John Dibble on April 27, 2012, 09:59:48 AM
Ethically? Sure, it's fine if your ethics allow eating pigs and whatnot, given the comparable level of intelligence. I wouldn't want to eat one personally, though, given the cultural norms that have been instilled upon me.



Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Oakvale on April 27, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

I mean, look, I had a pet dog for many years. I'm not saying I'd have killed and eaten it. Of course I wouldn't. But if I had a pet pig (some people do!) I'd be similarly appalled at the idea.

I don't think it's really morally justified to eat dogs, no, but I don't think it's morally justified to eat any animal. I still do it, though, because I don't care enough to conciously change my diet. That sounds horrible, but I'd imagine it's true for a lot of people.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 27, 2012, 10:42:04 AM
I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

There is a logical argument to be made for not raising carnivores for food.  Wild carnivores because of their position near the top of the food chain are problematic because environmental toxins get concentrated in them.  Pigs are better, but their dietary habits do make them less desirable food animals than pure herbivores such as kine and sheep.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: opebo on April 27, 2012, 11:06:26 AM
I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

If you did such a violence at the dog-restaurant where I partook in Saigon, you would probably be ejected. 


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 27, 2012, 11:21:45 AM
Why does the whole talk about dogs and pigs suddenly remind me of that restaurant scene from Pulp Fiction? :P

Quote
Jules: But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.

Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

Jules: Well, we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherf**king pig. I mean, he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm saying.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Oakvale on April 27, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Why does the whole talk about dogs and pigs suddenly remind me of that restaurant scene from Pulp Fiction? :P

Quote
Jules: But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.

Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

Jules: Well, we'd have to be talkin' about one charming mothering pig. I mean, he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm saying.

The auto-censor ruined the quote slightly. :P


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 27, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
^^ Fixed. ;)


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: angus on April 27, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
Carnivorous mammals never taste good.  Herbivores are delicious.  Not sure why.  It doesn't work like this with fish, reptiles, birds, etc, but for mammals you want to eat only the herbivores.

If you're ever on an airplane and it crashes into a mountain and you have to survive in the frozen, high-altitude condition for a long time with no food stored, be sure to find out who's a vegetarian and who's not before people start dying off.

Anyway, I voted Yes.  Eat whatever you want.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on April 27, 2012, 02:34:53 PM
I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

If you did such a violence at the dog-restaurant where I partook in Saigon, you would probably be ejected. 

Oh well, I'm sure that would have been heartbreaking!


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on April 27, 2012, 03:17:55 PM
I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

I mean, look, I had a pet dog for many years. I'm not saying I'd have killed and eaten it. Of course I wouldn't. But if I had a pet pig (some people do!) I'd be similarly appalled at the idea.

I don't think it's really morally justified to eat dogs, no, but I don't think it's morally justified to eat any animal. I still do it, though, because I don't care enough to conciously change my diet. That sounds horrible, but I'd imagine it's true for a lot of people.

Thank you; this is my position exactly.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: The Mikado on April 28, 2012, 02:09:45 AM
Probably not my thing, but whatever.



Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 28, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 28, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

While they are not obligate carnivores who can eat only meat, dogs prefer meat in their diet, and the more active they are, the more they need meat with its easily digested nutrients.

Pigs are omnivores as well, but they can more easily subsist on a herbivorous diet.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: minionofmidas on April 28, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
I'd be more interested in trying cat sometime (no, this is not a sexual reference.)


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: The Mikado on April 28, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?  Also, re: inefficiency, you might as well turn that into a case for vegetarianism.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 28, 2012, 03:33:43 PM
There's a pretty huge difference between eating your pet dog and eating dog meat from a farm of dogs specifically bread to be fattened up, slaughtered and eaten.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Insula Dei on April 28, 2012, 04:57:30 PM
I'd be more interested in trying cat sometime (no, this is not a sexual reference.)

Ugh, now that is a meat that I can't imagine tasting anything other than wholly disgusting.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Sbane on April 28, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  Having had one for nearly 15 years, I know they are more than just pets.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'. 

Meh, you can just substitute dog for any animal here. I wouldn't eat a dog personally, but don't have a problem with others eating it. I mean, that's just a no-brainer. There are a bunch of people out there who are "disgusted" by you eating a cow or a pig.

Once when I was in the northeast of India, in the hills where the people have a culture very similar to Burma and are not like the rest of India at all, we saw a dead wild pig being transported in the back of a car. My family saw that and got disgusted, and the driver (who for some reason tend to be the most classist/casteist types) commented that "these people eat just about everything..pig, cow, dog". I found putting eating cows, pigs and dogs on the same level to be highly amusing.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Sbane on April 28, 2012, 05:22:45 PM

I also really don't care about the supposed logical inconsistency between eating other animals and not dog.  That's the reason why I am an American and part of American culture thought.  Tough sh!t.

Why do you think anyone cares about what you think?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 28, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
What does dog taste like anyway?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: opebo on April 28, 2012, 08:47:46 PM

Its been years, but I remember it being delicious, though strong and gamey.  But then I like everything.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 28, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on April 29, 2012, 01:33:56 AM
     I don't do it, but I don't really care if other people do it.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2012, 03:43:27 AM
I'd be more interested in trying cat sometime (no, this is not a sexual reference.)

Ugh, now that is a meat that I can't imagine tasting anything other than wholly disgusting.
Somewhat similar to rabbit, by all accounts.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 29, 2012, 04:11:37 AM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: dead0man on April 29, 2012, 06:47:00 AM
I think it's sheep that get the shaft, or at least that's what the ____insert nationality or state of choice here____ tell us.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Vosem on April 29, 2012, 08:28:20 AM
Of course -- it would be a better use for them that what Americans use them for nowadays. Hopefully this practice gains more currency in the US of A.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: opebo on April 29, 2012, 09:48:14 AM

Now that I believe is illegal, n'est-ce pas?  Funny old world.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 29, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.

Well, as smart as pigs are, what good have they done for humans besides being very tasty?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 29, 2012, 04:22:38 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.

Well, as smart as pigs are, what good have they done for humans besides being very tasty?

http://old.post-gazette.com/neigh_west/20020409lulu0409p1.asp


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: politicus on April 29, 2012, 04:35:47 PM
A true heroine!


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: The Mikado on April 29, 2012, 08:48:49 PM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.

Well, as smart as pigs are, what good have they done for humans besides being very tasty?

Finding truffles?  Acting as walking compost heaps and eating our garbage?

Anyway, the "compact" point is pretty moot, given the widespread practice of eating horseflesh (an animal with an even closer bond to humans than dogs).


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 30, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.

Well, as smart as pigs are, what good have they done for humans besides being very tasty?

(an animal with an even closer bond to humans than dogs).

Debatable, but perhaps the same argument could be used against eating horse. At least horses are strictly herbivores.

So, where do we draw the line? Is eating chimpanzee ok?


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 30, 2012, 11:29:24 AM
No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?

Well, something I believe anyways. There is a special relationship between dogs and humans. Something that has existed for millenia, and something that cannot be denied.

Seems like pigs were getting the shaft convenant-wise.

Well, as smart as pigs are, what good have they done for humans besides being very tasty?

(an animal with an even closer bond to humans than dogs).

Debatable, but perhaps the same argument could be used against eating horse. At least horses are strictly herbivores.

So, where do we draw the line? Is eating chimpanzee ok?

Nope. First of all, chimpanzees are an endangered species (well, two species actually). Some people may also consider it semi-cannibalism.

None of the two points apply to dogs.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 30, 2012, 11:39:34 AM
We draw the line nowhere. We are human beings and it is our evolutionary right to eat whatever lesser specie we want whenever we want to.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Eraserhead on May 01, 2012, 03:27:20 AM
We draw the line nowhere. We are human beings and it is our evolutionary right to eat whatever lesser specie we want whenever we want to.

Indeed. And while we're at it, why stop at "lesser species"? There are "lesser humans" we should be eating too. We'll start with the retarded and disabled people first.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on May 01, 2012, 08:47:33 AM
I bet neanderthals were tasty.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Sbane on May 01, 2012, 04:32:34 PM
Haha wow, please justify why you would eat an animal that gives you milk to feed your children or helps till your field for free? Why not draw the line before that, hmm? What does a dog provide that is of more value than a cow. You guys are being absolutely ridiculous making these comparisons to monkeys or neanderthals.


Title: Re: Eating dogs
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 01, 2012, 05:55:03 PM
After having googled around a bit, I must say that the topic of dog consumption is not that uninteresting as an aspect of our own cultural history.

Up until the early 20th century eating dogs was not that uncommon in the Western world, especially some parts of Europe. For instance, this New York Times article from 1907 reported that a total of 3700 dogs had been slaughtered for the purposes of human consumption in the German state of Saxony during the year 1906. Advertisement for dog meat in German newspapers was also described as "not uncommon":
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9B04E4D9133EE033A25750C2A9609C946697D6CF&oref=slogin

While the consumption of dogs was often the result of famine, shortages or at least an increase in prices for other meat, it also managed to become more of a tradition in some regions. In fact, eating dogs still seems to be occasionally practiced in some rural parts of Switzerland to this day.

Ironically, the emergence of the more and more "industrialized" breeding and slaughtering of cows, pigs etc. meant that these forms of meat were finally constantly available at low prices for every consumer. Hence dog meat became less and less viable/necessary as a food  alternative and the taboo against eating dogs started to assert itself.