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Title: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Failed)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on April 30, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
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Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012

1. The Atlasian National Healthcare Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Atlasian_National_Healthcare_Act) is hereby repealed.

2. The Atlasian National Budget shall look like this:

TOTAL Direct Spending = $1.14 trillion

Military Spending ($418.72 billion)
$100 billion ... Military personnel
$138.13 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($1.15 billion)
$542.7 million ..... Military Operations
$609.31 million .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($23.84 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$1.08 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($12.32 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$10.2 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($35.13 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$8.74 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.06 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$7.88 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($17.69 billion)
$13.40 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($5.75 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$1.10 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($84.21 billion)
$22.77 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$31.16 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.31 billion ...... Railroads
$13.64 billion ..... Air Transportation
$5.40 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($55.46 billion)
$3.14 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$8.76  billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($83.95 billion)
$44.98 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$35.74 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Non-ANH Health Spending ($36.02 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$28.31 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($6.71 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$923.58 million .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$901.13 million ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($149.06 billion)
$59.27 billion ..... Housing assistance
$63.11 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($24.33 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$14.85 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($31.09 billion)
$7.05 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$9.32 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.04 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($3.04 billion)
$988.82 million ...... Legislative functions
$710.97 million ...... Executive office programs
$529.21 million ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$1.01 billion ...... Other general government

3. If passed, this budget shall be displayed in the GM thread for the public to see.

Sponsor: NC Yankee


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on April 30, 2012, 08:38:39 PM
The last of 20RP12's deluge.


Again, 24 hours to pick this up, if no one wants it I am going to make it vanish the quick and simple way.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 30, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
This should be fun lol


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: tmthforu94 on April 30, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
I'd encourage the Senate to at least discuss the idea of making some cuts.

Jake, where specifically did you make cuts?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 30, 2012, 08:54:37 PM
A link to the budget that is in effect now would be convenient to compare this with.  But as for the current bill, I strongly oppose section 1 and definitely will not vote for this bill if it remains in the final text.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 30, 2012, 08:57:24 PM
Yes- can some one please link to the budget so we can compare?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 30, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
Not going to sign this in anything close to this form... I will be presenting a Budget next week for Senate consideration. There will be spending cuts and consolidations, as well as small revenue increases.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Sbane on May 01, 2012, 04:00:08 AM
I am open to cuts...but the Atlasian health care act is already in the process of being reformed so that is off the table. We are making $3 Trillion dollars in cuts (using Washington calculations)!!!!! What more can one want?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 01, 2012, 05:11:07 AM
Here is the original budget before I cut it:

Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending

TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.840 Trillion


Military Spending ($427.3 billion)
$101.19 billion ... Military personnel
$143.52 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($45.25 billion)
$37.2 billion ..... Military Operations
$8.05 billion .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($32.23 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$9.47 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($18.02 billion)
$13.73 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$2.17 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($107.5 billion)
$33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$38 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.81 billion ...... Railroads
$17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation
$7.37 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($59.96 billion)
$6.25 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($103.52 billion)
$57.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$42.72 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion)
$299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership
$278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership
$140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership
$257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership
$231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership
$21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs

Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$29.36 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($177.71 billion)
$63.45 billion ..... Housing assistance
$87.58 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($25.62 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$16.14 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($33.1 billion)

$7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$10.91 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($17.76 billion)

$3.67 billion ...... Legislative functions
$1.14 billion ...... Executive office programs
$9.8 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$3.15 billion ...... Other general government

Interest on debt ($240.38 billion)

$240.38 billion .... Net Interest[/size]

***************************************

SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012


Direct Spending      $2,839.65 Billion
Tax Credits               $310.2  Billion
TOTAL Expenditures $3149.85 Billion

REVENUE               $2,724.6   Billion
EXPENDITURES     -$3,149.85 Billion
BALANCE                 -$ 425.25 Billion

Current Debt: $12.62 TRILLION
Projected Debt (Jan 2013): $13.05 TRILLION

(Note: Expenditure, Deficit and Debt figures do not include spending by the National Social Security administration, which has its own budget. Expenditures for some credits and programs, such as Atlasian National Healthcare, may change based on public participation.)


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 01, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
The last of 20RP12's deluge.


Again, 24 hours to pick this up, if no one wants it I am going to make it vanish the quick and simple way.

You guys are running out of time. :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 01, 2012, 01:00:26 PM
I may pick this up but I have a question for 20RP12- did you intentionally leave out interest on debt?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 01, 2012, 01:10:45 PM
Something to keep in mind: this would mean a lot of changes in specific laws that have been passed.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 01, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
Shua- are you saying it might be better to wait for Polnut's budget and just amend that?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 01, 2012, 01:38:51 PM
Shua- are you saying it might be better to wait for Polnut's budget and just amend that?
It might, but really I was just pointing to the fact that a lot of the items in these budgets are the results of specific laws.  I was thinking somewhat of how that would need to be handled in the wiki if this passed to be clear which laws are still in effect or are amended.

Something I should point out is that I had been planning anyway to do an update of the budget in the next week or so anyway since there have been some changes due to new laws, fiscal calendar stuff, etc.  I was going to wait to see if the new healthcare law passed first, but instead I'll try to expedite it since all this budget talk is going on now.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 01, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
I may pick this up but I have a question for 20RP12- did you intentionally leave out interest on debt?

I didn't think to include it.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on May 01, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
I propose this amendment:
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Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012

1. The Atlasian National Healthcare Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Atlasian_National_Healthcare_Act) is hereby repealed.


2. The Atlasian National Budget shall look like this:

TOTAL Direct Spending = $1.14 trillion

Military Spending ($418.72 billion)
$100 billion ... Military personnel
$138.13 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($1.15 billion)
$542.7 million ..... Military Operations
$609.31 million .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($23.84 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$1.08 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($12.32 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$10.2 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($35.13 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$8.74 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.06 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$7.88 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($17.69 billion)
$13.40 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($5.75 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$1.10 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($84.21 billion)
$22.77 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$31.16 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.31 billion ...... Railroads
$13.64 billion ..... Air Transportation
$5.40 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($55.46 billion)
$3.14 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$8.76  billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($83.95 billion)
$44.98 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$35.74 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Non-ANH Health Spending ($36.02 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$28.31 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($6.71 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$923.58 million .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$901.13 million ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($149.06 billion)
$59.27 billion ..... Housing assistance
$63.11 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($24.33 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$14.85 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($31.09 billion)
$7.05 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$9.32 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.04 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($3.04 billion)
$988.82 million ...... Legislative functions
$710.97 million ...... Executive office programs
$529.21 million ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$1.01 billion ...... Other general government

3. If passed, this budget shall be displayed in the GM thread for the public to see.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 01, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
>:(


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Yelnoc on May 01, 2012, 06:01:57 PM
You will need to take into account the current national healthcare act, assuming it passes.  Might want to run some projections with that in mind (or ask Shua to do so).


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 01, 2012, 06:03:06 PM
Amendments will not be considered in order until a sponsor has volunteered for this bill. Only two hours left.


sharpens scythe and dusts off black cape


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: LastVoter on May 02, 2012, 12:26:40 AM
I propose this amendment:
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Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012

1. The Atlasian National Healthcare Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Atlasian_National_Healthcare_Act) is hereby repealed.


2. The Atlasian National Budget shall look like this:

TOTAL Direct Spending = $1.14 trillion

Military Spending ($418.72 billion)
$100 billion ... Military personnel
$138.13 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($1.15 billion)
$542.7 million ..... Military Operations
$609.31 million .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($23.84 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$1.08 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($12.32 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$10.2 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($35.13 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$8.74 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.06 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$7.88 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($17.69 billion)
$13.40 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($5.75 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$1.10 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($84.21 billion)
$22.77 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$31.16 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.31 billion ...... Railroads
$13.64 billion ..... Air Transportation
$5.40 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($55.46 billion)
$3.14 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$8.76  billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($83.95 billion)
$44.98 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$35.74 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Non-ANH Health Spending ($36.02 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$28.31 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($6.71 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$923.58 million .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$901.13 million ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($149.06 billion)
$59.27 billion ..... Housing assistance
$63.11 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($24.33 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$14.85 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($31.09 billion)
$7.05 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$9.32 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.04 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($3.04 billion)
$988.82 million ...... Legislative functions
$710.97 million ...... Executive office programs
$529.21 million ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$1.01 billion ...... Other general government

3. If passed, this budget shall be displayed in the GM thread for the public to see.

You won't actually vote for this right? This is like a 20% cut to education.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 02, 2012, 02:53:32 AM
I am in the early stages of developing the administration's Budget.

There will be some short and sharp shocks in some areas, but services to vulnerable citizens and basic and vital services will NOT be affected.

I believe we can bring about deep, but targeted and effective cuts but maintain service delivery and start to pay off the debt from next year.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on May 02, 2012, 04:56:12 AM
I propose this amendment:
Quote
Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012

1. The Atlasian National Healthcare Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Atlasian_National_Healthcare_Act) is hereby repealed.


2. The Atlasian National Budget shall look like this:

TOTAL Direct Spending = $1.14 trillion

Military Spending ($418.72 billion)
$100 billion ... Military personnel
$138.13 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($1.15 billion)
$542.7 million ..... Military Operations
$609.31 million .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($23.84 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$1.08 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($12.32 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$10.2 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($35.13 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$8.74 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.06 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$7.88 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($17.69 billion)
$13.40 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($5.75 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$1.10 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($84.21 billion)
$22.77 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$31.16 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.31 billion ...... Railroads
$13.64 billion ..... Air Transportation
$5.40 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($55.46 billion)
$3.14 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$8.76  billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($83.95 billion)
$44.98 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$35.74 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Non-ANH Health Spending ($36.02 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$28.31 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($6.71 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$923.58 million .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$901.13 million ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($149.06 billion)
$59.27 billion ..... Housing assistance
$63.11 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($24.33 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$14.85 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($31.09 billion)
$7.05 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$9.32 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.04 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($3.04 billion)
$988.82 million ...... Legislative functions
$710.97 million ...... Executive office programs
$529.21 million ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$1.01 billion ...... Other general government

3. If passed, this budget shall be displayed in the GM thread for the public to see.

You won't actually vote for this right? This is like a 20% cut to education.
Well, no, but we might end up changing the actual details to make it more palatable.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2012, 05:18:48 AM
Well, now Yankee is gonna pull the trigger cuz it has no sponsor. It's as good as dead. An odd fate, honestly :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 02, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
Well, now Yankee is gonna pull the trigger cuz it has no sponsor. It's as good as dead. An odd fate, honestly :P

Didn't I tell you to round up sponsors for all your damn bills three weeks ago?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2012, 03:21:56 PM
I can't make people attach their name to this sh*t.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 02, 2012, 03:57:48 PM
I'd encourage my fellow Senators (waited four years to say that) to let this die, and wait until the President proposes his budget.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on May 02, 2012, 05:43:38 PM
Motion to table.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 02, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
Motions to Table are out of order.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 02, 2012, 06:08:05 PM
The way I have been bringing these to floor is to count either myself as sponsor or the person who previously had claimed it. Bills of "departed" Senators are supposed to be trashed and since no took this, I can simply deny I had taken it, thus making it an illegal bill, since bills of departed Senators must be trashed.

Since this is a heavy handed tactic, I will provided 24 hours in case some are uncomfortable with me doing this. If so, I will take sponsorship, recognize and second Al's motion to table and open a vote.


Thoughts?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2012, 06:30:49 PM
meh, let it die.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: LastVoter on May 02, 2012, 06:41:11 PM
Where is my fire?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2012, 06:44:30 PM

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Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 03, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Come on baby light my fire, try to set the night on FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 03, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
The avenues by which I was planning to burn this down are not as open as I originally thought.

Therefore I am retaining sponsorship as is established by defacto of my decision to bring it to the floor, and then open a final vote on it. This shall be considered such a request for a final vote.

As no debate on the bill has occured within 24 hours, I now open a final vote on this. Senators please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.



Nay


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 03, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
Nay- I'm voting with the intention to propose an amendment to Polnut's budget


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 03, 2012, 09:06:22 PM
Nay.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Sbane on May 04, 2012, 02:17:51 AM
Nay


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on May 04, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
Nay.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Pingvin on May 04, 2012, 09:38:52 AM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 04, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
Nay, this isn't workable in this form.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 04, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 04, 2012, 05:45:29 PM
NAY


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: LastVoter on May 04, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Nay


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: tpfkaw on May 04, 2012, 10:17:29 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 05, 2012, 09:40:33 AM
Alfred and Pingvin have departed and been replaced by Seatown and Wormyguy.


I would assume that according to Bgwah's amendment a year or so ago, that the line of succession for the At-Large seats is as follows:

Alfred - Seatown
Pingvin - Wormyguy
Nathan - AndrewPA

Is this accurate? It is important to know, so that a final vote count can be determined. Successors can change the votes of their predecessors I beleive.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: ilikeverin on May 05, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
>:( Nope


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Failed)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 09, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Vote on Final Passage of the Trim Away the Fat Act of 2012:

Aye (1): Pingvin/Wormyguy
Nay (8): Alfred F. Jones/Seatown, Clarence, Ben, ILV, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott, and TJ in Cleve
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Nathan/AndrewCT


The bill has failed to pass the Senate.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Badger on May 10, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
<sniff> The budget still exists?!? It survived!

Forgive the attention-whoring from a ghost of these hallowed halls, but I feel like a mama bird that saw it's chick fly from the nest. :)


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Napoleon on May 10, 2012, 08:57:02 AM
<sniff> The budget still exists?!? It survived!

Forgive the attention-whoring from a ghost of these hallowed halls, but I feel like a mama bird that saw it's chick fly from the nest. :)

In fact GM shua has just now brought us another update! Good work Badge. :D


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (At Final Vote)
Post by: Badger on May 16, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
<sniff> The budget still exists?!? It survived!

Forgive the attention-whoring from a ghost of these hallowed halls, but I feel like a mama bird that saw it's chick fly from the nest. :)

In fact GM shua has just now brought us another update! Good work Badge. :D

Many thanks, but it's the hard work of subsequent GMs like Shua who made this happen.