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Title: The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 14, 2012, 11:27:50 PM
A new thread, a new beginning.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on May 14, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 14, 2012, 11:33:13 PM

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 15, 2012, 12:41:50 AM
Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Pingvin on May 15, 2012, 01:08:16 AM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 15, 2012, 04:35:06 AM
Usual Pingvin.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 15, 2012, 05:18:11 AM
Barry now tries to avoid ANY economy discussion so he had use everything for his campaign: from gay marriage and free condoms to Romney dog.
Also, there is one more reason for this (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-gay-marriage-announcement-followed-by-flood-of-campaign-donations/2012/05/10/gIQA2ntCGU_story.html).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 15, 2012, 08:17:43 AM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 15, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
I was just about to post that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 15, 2012, 11:36:29 AM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.

I don't agree, certainly, but that qualifies as neither absurdity, ignorance, nor bad posting.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 15, 2012, 01:09:24 PM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.

I don't agree, certainly, but that qualifies as neither absurdity, ignorance, nor bad posting.
Thank you...
I could post on here how members of this board would root for Iran in a war against the USA but that's an opinion- as absurd as I may find it they have a right to hold it without being mocked


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: ZuWo on May 15, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.

I don't agree, certainly, but that qualifies as neither absurdity, ignorance, nor bad posting.

That has never been the main point of this thread - too often the point of this thread is to collectively ridicule a poster for having opinions that deserve to be seriously debated but that some posters are not ready to tolerate for some reason.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on May 15, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.

I don't agree, certainly, but that qualifies as neither absurdity, ignorance, nor bad posting.

Amen.

But, as ZuWo said, that's not the idea of this thread. It's all too common for posts to be quoted here just because they don't adhere to the Democratic forum party line.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 15, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
Take it elsewhere please.

(FTR, I agree that this post shouldn't have been put here)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 16, 2012, 06:11:54 PM
If he wins, it will certainly be a major victory for those who wish to return to the good old days of the 1800's.

GDP growth above 2.5% ? ?  unemployment under 8% ? ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 16, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
Henry Kissinger is quite arguably the best Secretary of State America has ever had, certainly the best during the Cold War. Future Secretaries should try to mimic him.

I don't agree, certainly, but that qualifies as neither absurdity, ignorance, nor bad posting.

Amen.

But, as ZuWo said, that's not the idea of this thread. It's all too common for posts to be quoted here just because they don't adhere to the Democratic forum party line.

I see the new thread is off to a nice start free from debate and arguing...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on May 17, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
As long as I'm the patron saint of this thread:  Why genius political analyst Peter Brower believes Scott Walker is "wildly unpopular."

I think that people are scared to admit that they loathe him to a pollster now. There's nothing that he has done to win support... but many interests have created a climate of fear in Wisconsin. Whether that translates into voting is a different matter.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 17, 2012, 12:38:33 PM
As long as I'm the patron saint of this thread:  Why genius political analyst Peter Brower believes Scott Walker is "wildly unpopular."

I think that people are scared to admit that they loathe him to a pollster now. There's nothing that he has done to win support... but many interests have created a climate of fear in Wisconsin. Whether that translates into voting is a different matter.

The "shy anti-Walker effect" ? ;D


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 18, 2012, 09:50:56 AM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on May 18, 2012, 11:33:01 AM

No more wrong than saying "Federal Republic of Germany" instead of "Bundesrepublik Deutschland."  In fact, it's probably better not to mix and match languages.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on May 18, 2012, 11:38:52 AM

No more wrong than saying "Federal Republic of Germany" instead of "Bundesrepublik Deutschland."  In fact, it's probably better not to mix and match languages.
Not the same thing. Its Iran in modern English, Persia is no longer correct, its like saying Mesopotamia instead of Iraq.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on May 18, 2012, 11:42:28 AM

No more wrong than saying "Federal Republic of Germany" instead of "Bundesrepublik Deutschland."  In fact, it's probably better not to mix and match languages.
Not the same thing. Its Iran in modern English, Persia is no longer correct, its like saying Mesopotamia instead of Iraq.

Well yes I know that their government prefers "Iran" to "Persia" in English, but I was just thinking about what I think should be the general rule. :P

(Also not quite the same; Mesopotamia is the name of a region but Persia has always been used to denote a government).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on May 18, 2012, 12:35:00 PM

No more wrong than saying "Federal Republic of Germany" instead of "Bundesrepublik Deutschland."  In fact, it's probably better not to mix and match languages.
Not the same thing. Its Iran in modern English, Persia is no longer correct, its like saying Mesopotamia instead of Iraq.

Well yes I know that their government prefers "Iran" to "Persia" in English, but I was just thinking about what I think should be the general rule. :P

(Also not quite the same; Mesopotamia is the name of a region but Persia has always been used to denote a government).

General rule is that Iran is used in a political context but Persia is appropriate in a historical or cultural context (Islamic Republic of Iran vs Persian rugs or cats).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 18, 2012, 01:55:17 PM
Is Wormy trying to kill another Deluge?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 18, 2012, 01:56:53 PM
Take it to another thread, guys.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 19, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
Does John Edwards have any political future? Senator again, maybe a final presidential candidacy?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 19, 2012, 11:01:53 AM
To win back the North the Republicans must win back the sorts of voters best described as 'Rockefeller Republicans' whose politicians included the likes of Norm Coleman, Gordon Smith, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter, Jim Jeffords, and Lincoln Chaffee who were nearly libertarian on economic issues and libertarian on personal rights.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 20, 2012, 11:15:35 PM
Very important. Certainly it could impaired Martin's judgement leading him to become more aggressive than he'd otherwise be, strengthening any case for self-defense.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 21, 2012, 12:17:36 PM
...Judging by what a complete boy scout Walker is, ...

I want whatever he's on. :o


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Redalgo on May 21, 2012, 12:41:20 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 22, 2012, 07:15:18 AM
A good news... I hope that Nikolic's Serbia to form a moderate eurosceptic axis with Tsipras' Greece with Russian support.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 22, 2012, 08:48:55 AM
Does John Edwards have any political future? Senator again, maybe a final presidential candidacy?


That might be the most absurd I've seen here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 22, 2012, 11:46:30 AM
anyone who writes this is a idiot or Anti Semite
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Palestinians are fairly moderate Islamists, unlike the Saudis.

this has nothing o do with politics even hard core Satmar who hate Israel would never say something so idiotic.

though maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge him and just assume he someone who is to stupid to tie his own shoe laces.   But if he has even the slightest amount of intelligence then he's a viscous anti semite who would like to see me dead.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on May 22, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
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he's a viscous anti semite

I guess that means he's so sticky that he can't be shaken off - like a tar baby. I like it! 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 22, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
anyone who writes this is a idiot or Anti Semite
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Palestinians are fairly moderate Islamists, unlike the Saudis.

this has nothing o do with politics even hard core Satmar who hate Israel would never say something so idiotic.

though maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge him and just assume he someone who is to stupid to tie his own shoe laces.   But if he has even the slightest amount of intelligence then he's a viscous anti semite who would like to see me dead.

First time a response to me is placed in here, and not my response :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 22, 2012, 06:24:10 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 22, 2012, 06:49:26 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on May 22, 2012, 06:51:21 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

Traditional marriage where the wife is purchased or traditional marriage within one race? The poster never made it clear.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on May 22, 2012, 06:51:52 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

^^^

Seriously, let's not let this Deluge go off the rails like the last one did.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 22, 2012, 06:56:33 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

You gotta admit, it's a pretty funny sounding term.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 22, 2012, 07:01:56 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

Traditional marriage where the wife is purchased or traditional marriage within one race? The poster never made it clear.

Given the context of the poll the post was discussing, it's pretty clear it was talking about same-sex marriage.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on May 22, 2012, 10:33:00 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

Traditional marriage where the wife is purchased or traditional marriage within one race? The poster never made it clear.

Given the context of the poll the post was discussing, it's pretty clear it was talking about same-sex marriage.

I wasn't aware that same-sex marriage was traditional anywhere.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 22, 2012, 10:56:30 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 23, 2012, 07:14:51 AM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

^^^

Seriously, let's not let this Deluge go off the rails like the last one did.

Yep. I'm with Inks here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 23, 2012, 05:04:30 PM

You see, it's posting stuff like that turns this thread into a pile of steaming crap rampant with political hackery.

^^^

Seriously, let's not let this Deluge go off the rails like the last one did.

Yep. I'm with Inks here.

And when he says that about a comment I made concerning the Deluge, you know that's some serious business! :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on May 23, 2012, 05:06:53 PM
That's the problem. The Internet should not be a place for serious business. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 24, 2012, 09:14:12 AM
That's the problem. The Internet should not be a place for serious business. :P

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 24, 2012, 01:33:54 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 24, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
Go to anncoulter.com, she clears this up.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on May 25, 2012, 05:42:45 AM

If you're interested in little bits of Atlas history, then go revive the Caturday thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 25, 2012, 09:07:46 AM
This is what people in Oklahoma actually believe:

Here's the part that stuck out to me:

Let me toss in my two cents (maybe worth but a cent and a half), but here goes:

I normally don't dress up for church just because I'm lazy.  Whenever I feel the energy, I will wear a suit and tie, especially on Easter, Fourth of July, and Christmas.  I actually enjoy wearing suits even more so than jeans and t-shirts.  If it weren't so darn expensive to buy several suits, I would enjoy a job as a TV News Reporter who wear suits by default.  They make me feel better about myself.

That said, I do not perceive wearing a suit as a necessity in church.  God doesn't care about what you wear on the outside, He cares more about what you look like on the inside.  His aim is to change people from the inside out, not the outside in like religion does.

At my small, Southern Baptist church, we do have one lady (my cousin) who has tattoos all over her arms, neck, and back.  She barely has any blank skin left.  I've seen her in a two-piece bathing suit and she is still covered all over, too.  The older people of my church don't care for it, but they do not condemn it.

My pastor wears a collared polo and khakis.  My music minister/youth minister will usually wear the same, but will once in a while put on a suit with a maroon shirt and a black tie.

Again, I really could care less what people wear in church, unless they are wearing a bathing suit or otherwise leaving little to the imagination.  I prefer suits for men and dresses for the ladies, but that's not a requirement in my opinion.

I know I am an old, because I prefer the older, slower hymns as opposed to the newer, faster contemporary.  *Watches BRTD cringe at the thought of older, slower hymns*

Since when is the Fourth of July a religious holiday?

It is a Christian holiday in the fact that it is because Christ died for us and His grace that our forefathers were able to wrestle our freedom out of the hands of the British Crown and it's because our men and women have died continue to die protecting that freedom that we are able to worship freely without fear of the government coming in and carting off us to jail or killing us (such is the case in China and many nations in the Middle East).  So, it is mandatory we give thanks to the LORD on Memorial Day and Independence Day, as well.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 25, 2012, 03:57:27 PM
I really can't stand all this Edwards hate going around. Elizabeth was no saint and frankly John probably wouldn't have cheated on her if she wasn't such a bitch. Oh wait, she has cancer so she is automatically some kind of "hero".

The only thing I have wrong with it is that is was irresponsible to do that at them same time as running for President.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on May 27, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
The majority are freedom houses that should be subdivided into tenements and turned over to the people, unless there is specific reason to keep this particular house as a museum, in which case this is what should of course be done.

Stuff like this makes me want to be an Objectivist.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 28, 2012, 05:30:42 AM
It's clearly not a bad post and neither is it ignorant, so... in what way is it absurd?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: batmacumba on May 28, 2012, 06:55:34 AM
Tell this to Ruskin.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 28, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
He'll be back.

The real tragedy here is that we now have 0 members bathed in prayer to try and knock sense into Bushie.

JCL would beg to differ and why would sense need to be knocked into Bushie.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 29, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
Here's a better question, if you were a small business owner or even someone looking for a better paying job, would you want to work with Mitt Romney or Barack Obama?

Which candidate will give you better advice on staying in business, or growing your profits?

Its a cut-throat world in capitalism.  Should capitalism always be fair? 

There are so many different industries, technologies, and skill-sets available in America.  Farmers, teachers, engineers, all have different needs and wants. 

You want to know how to get a job, make all the kids get STEM degrees. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on May 29, 2012, 03:01:38 PM
I guess you could call me pro-abortion in a way.

When my cousin got knocked up at like 16, I thought GET AN ABORTION YOU MORON, but I didn't dare pipe up, lest everyone look at me like I'm such a bastard.  She's from Bakersfield anyways, meaning she's all Christiany despite her whole family being addicted to crystal meth.

But really, it wasn't so much "get an abortion you moron" as much as it was "maybe she should get an abortion so she can enjoy her life a little bit."  Well...I would have framed it that way anyways.

Kid died anyways.  She's probably screwed up for life, and then she'll have other kids who she's going to pass on her screwed-up-ness to, like how my mother passed on her screwed-up-ness to me.  At least I shall do the humane thing and never reproduce.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on May 29, 2012, 03:06:11 PM
That is a sad tale, but where is it absurd or ignorant or a bad post?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on May 29, 2012, 03:07:16 PM
the part where the entire thing sounds like a crazygoggs video.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on May 30, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
It's not really liberal, like, San Francisco or Seattle liberal.  Hollywood liberalism strikes me as being centrist, with a hint of libertarianism.  But with environmentalism, and support for idiotic causes like Kony 2012, PETA, etc.  Certainly culturally conservative, with the whole housewife culture and teen mom bull[Inks].


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 31, 2012, 12:54:16 AM
It's also a central element in Christianity and Islam to wage wars against unbelievers, kill undesirables such as gays, and subjugate women.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 31, 2012, 05:00:48 AM
OK I guess the message didn't get through.

STOP. BEING. HACKS.

This thread is not for the posts you disagree with. It's for posts which can be universally recognized as absurd ignorant or bad.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 31, 2012, 05:24:02 AM
Here's the difference:

Something you disagree with:

Quote from: Poster Jdskada
Mitt Romney would make a great President.

Something that's absurd, ignorant or bad:

Quote from: Poster yFHGW25
Mitt Romney would bring unemployment down to 0%, wipe out the debt, win the wars and achieve world peace all in his first year in office.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 31, 2012, 10:30:01 AM
OK I guess the message didn't get through.

STOP. BEING. HACKS.

This thread is not for the posts you disagree with. It's for posts which can be universally recognized as absurd ignorant or bad.

And said post is pretty absurd and ignorant, since it implies that Jesus advocated to wage wars against unbelievers, kill "undesirables" and subjugate women.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 31, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
Guys, the first deluge died because we debated directly with a trollish nonsense here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on June 01, 2012, 09:12:59 PM
Intrepid investigative reporter Peter Brower brings us new updates on Scott Walker's Stalinist dictatorship.

Quite high of course. The new voting patterns in WOW will give him a solid shot.

Romney wins the state only if President Obama collapses overall as a leader (no sign yet) or Governor Scott Walker rigs the statewide election.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on June 01, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
It's not really liberal, like, San Francisco or Seattle liberal.  Hollywood liberalism strikes me as being centrist, with a hint of libertarianism.  But with environmentalism, and support for idiotic causes like Kony 2012, PETA, etc.  Certainly culturally conservative, with the whole housewife culture and teen mom bull[Inks].

How is this absurd? And if it is about seemingly self contradictory things then that usually happens when your primary purpose is to make money.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on June 02, 2012, 01:07:01 AM
It's not really liberal, like, San Francisco or Seattle liberal.  Hollywood liberalism strikes me as being centrist, with a hint of libertarianism.  But with environmentalism, and support for idiotic causes like Kony 2012, PETA, etc.  Certainly culturally conservative, with the whole housewife culture and teen mom bull[Inks].

How is this absurd? And if it is about seemingly self contradictory things then that usually happens when your primary purpose is to make money.
almost all of it but the last sentence fragment in particular.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 02, 2012, 10:19:16 PM

If you're a Democrat, here's hoping June will be better.

Well, let’s see,
SCOTUS decisions on Obama Care – the fed control of every breath, belch, fart and tear.

SCOTUS decision on the states enforcement of current fed laws.  – AZ and the illegals.

WI - decision on union governance too its extinction or not.

Greece Vote – Obama’s not vacationing there, no big deal there.

Fed meeting – decision on continued funding of the democrat party, other wise known as QE3 - diluting the republic.

Yep, should be a better month for Obama, if not he’ll just move up his plan of “screw‘em” declare he, the last POTUS and have Eric Holder annul the US Constitution, then placing himself as the Chief Of All Justice, saving all this trouble with the voter ID issue.

Or, maybe, 

Obama realizes there’s no more money, having established himself as the greatest bank robber known to mankind, and resigns. If such, the only minor question is, which country will the first exiled American Presidential family move to? I’m sure he’ll have that birth certificate thing all re-worked out.

The Obama Inheritance and Romney’s strategy, to what end?   




Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 02, 2012, 10:21:55 PM
Economic Issues

Taxes: A flat tax of about 10% on income is the only major tax I'd support. I also support taxes on tobacco and alcohol and would support heavily taxing marijuana if it became legal.

Health Care: I do not support a Government takeover of healthcare and instead support keeping it private. Allow insurance companies to compete across state lines to drive down prices.

Regulation: Some regulations are needed. Worker safety regulations are necessary, but other regulations such as environmental regulations are unnecessary. Any regulation makes it more difficult for businesses to operate, thus causing economic struggles.

Trade: I support free trade and fair trade, with a slight preference towards free trade. Economic globalization is a good thing.

Stimulus Spending: Government spending on the economy does not solve economic struggles. However, some spending can help at certain times. I do not support a balanced budget amendment for this reason.

Overall Spending: Cut it quite a bit, but not drastically. Anyone who proposes cutting Government spending by more than 30-40% max is nuts.

Welfare: I do not support a federal welfare program, instead leaving it up to private charity. I support drug testing for all welfare recipients.

Foreign Aid: Cut it by a significant amount. Foreign aid money almost always ends up getting cut off by tyrannical Governments and pocked.

Minimum wage: Fine where it is. See Government regulation, as forcing companies to pay their employees a certain amount makes it more difficult to operate.

Social Security: Allow Americans to invest in their own social security funds privately.

Social Issues:

Abortion: I do not morally support abortion, however, I believe it should remain legal. I do not support having taxpayer money go to abortion and believe it should only be legal for cases of rape, incest, mother's life or severe deformity.
 
Gay Rights: I believe all gays should have the right to marry and should also be legally permitted to adopt. I believe gays are entitled to all of the same rights as straight people.

Drugs: I believe all drugs should be legal and heavily taxed and regulated. Treat drugs just like alcohol or tobacco.

Gun Rights: I am a fervent supporter of the 2nd amendment, but I believe some logical restrictions on guns are necessary, such as putting safety locks on all guns and banning certain bullets.

Education: I believe each state should set their own curriculum and give parents the option to opt out of certain classes. I do not support increasing federal education spending.

Environment and Oil: See my position on regulation, though I do support some investment in green technology, though I mainly support drilling domestically for our own oil.

Immigration: I'm sympathetic towards immigrants, but I only support legal immigration. I do support making the process quicker and easier.

War and Defense

War: I believe diplomacy is a better way of achieving world peace. Bombing other countries will never be a better way of achieving peace than diplomacy. I support withdrawing from the Middle East. War for humanitarian reasons varies from case to case.

Defense: I believe in cutting defense spending, but not by very much. Having a strong national defense is a good option.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 02, 2012, 10:23:09 PM
Quote
Abortion: I do not morally support abortion, however, I believe it should remain legal. I do not support having taxpayer money go to abortion and believe it should only be legal for cases of rape, incest, mother's life or severe deformity.

I'm still very confused...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 02, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
Arguably made more sense than this one:

Quote
Stimulus Spending: Government spending on the economy does not solve economic struggles. However, some spending can help at certain times. I do not support a balanced budget amendment for this reason.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 02, 2012, 11:59:10 PM
Give him a break.  At least that's way more coherent than what's put forward by your average politician. 

Arguably made more sense than this one:
Quote
Stimulus Spending: Government spending on the economy does not solve economic struggles. However, some spending can help at certain times. I do not support a balanced budget amendment for this reason.
It's this crazy thing called nuance. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2012, 04:15:44 AM
You people are really trying your best to turn this into a massive hackfest.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on June 03, 2012, 04:40:39 AM
Lets hope it stays that way so this pointless, trainwreck of a thread can get re-locked.  We don't need it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 03, 2012, 08:37:49 AM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 03, 2012, 09:45:29 AM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.

Just ignore them, Carl. They are not worth of you leaving this forum.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on June 03, 2012, 09:52:20 AM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.

I would suggest perhaps you view it as an opportunity to work on your debating skills, and diplomatic skills, so that when you get into the mash pit, the other guy gets the worst of it, while you remain pleasant and death pointless, even as the other guy writhes in agony. In other words, get at once a thicker skin, and a nice little velvet glove to put on your fist. Just a thought. :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 09:55:15 AM
I wasn't trying to be a hack... just make an observation.

I think Torie said it best.  Don't leave, Jake.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on June 03, 2012, 10:19:13 AM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.
While your premise is correct, it's not worth leaving over.  Ignore the idiots, learn from the smart ones (believe it or not, there are smart ones on "that" side, they just believe in stupid things ;) ).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on June 03, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on June 03, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.

What, because you can't wrap your head around the idea of someone placing more value on a nearly adult human being's potential than a fetus? The 14 year old girls who get pregnant aren't idiots because they decided to abort or not abort; they just tend to be idiots in general.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on June 03, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.

What, because you can't wrap your head around the idea of someone placing more value on a nearly adult human being's potential than a fetus? The 14 year old girls who get pregnant aren't idiots because they decided to abort or not abort; they just tend to be idiots in general.

no the first half was bad enough (like cry for help bad), calling everyone that might be traumatized about terminating something that might call them mom an idiot especially if they're mixed up kids just made it worse.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on June 03, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.

What, because you can't wrap your head around the idea of someone placing more value on a nearly adult human being's potential than a fetus? The 14 year old girls who get pregnant aren't idiots because they decided to abort or not abort; they just tend to be idiots in general.

no the first half was bad enough (like cry for help bad), calling everyone that might be traumatized about terminating something that might call them mom an idiot especially if they're mixed up kids just made it worse.

Oh yeah that was indeed weird.

I'm just saying that based off of my first hand experienced all girls at my school who have gotten pregnant, whether they aborted or didn't abort, have been morons. Either way they weren't going to go anywhere. The ones who decided to keep the kid were evangelical or catholic, the ones who didn't were fairly non-religious. I honestly don't see the contemplation behind both choices being very in-depth or rational tbh.

I think I might be a misanthrope some days.

edit: I'm done, sorry thread creators and mods. Delete my posts if you want.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 03, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
Mint, get the fuçk out of this thread.

Thanks.

Mint already contributed to killing one deluge thread. What else did you expect?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: ZuWo on June 03, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
Mint, get the fuçk out of this thread.

Thanks.

Why only Mint and not all the others who did not strictly follow the holy rules of this thread (= made a post that did not mock someone else's alleged stupidity)?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2012, 03:36:18 PM
Mint, get the fuçk out of this thread.

Thanks.

Why only Mint and not all the others who did not strictly follow the holy rules of this thread (= made a post that did not mock someone else's alleged stupidity)?

BRTD and Scott should stop spamming the thread as well, but Mint is the only one who has displayed sheer contempt for the basic rules of this thread and utter obstination in his trolling.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on June 03, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
Lief's post was obviously idiotic.

Those that are stupid enough to view pregnancy as just a tiny "mistake" are clearly the great thinkers! How dare that "thing"/fetus cut their dreams short!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 03, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.

1. I hope you stay.  I'd encourage you to ignore stupid threads like these.
2. This is the very reason I locked the first thread - it does nothing but lead to hackishness and harm hte community harmony.  Clearly I was overruled in my "Will of Dave" interpretation, but I think many agree with my principle in locking it - the thread sucks and doesn't serve a meaningful net-beneficial purpose.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 03, 2012, 04:51:46 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.

What, because you can't wrap your head around the idea of someone placing more value on a nearly adult human being's potential than a fetus? The 14 year old girls who get pregnant aren't idiots because they decided to abort or not abort; they just tend to be idiots in general.

no the first half was bad enough (like cry for help bad), calling everyone that might be traumatized about terminating something that might call them mom an idiot especially if they're mixed up kids just made it worse.

Oh yeah that was indeed weird.

I'm just saying that based off of my first hand experienced all girls at my school who have gotten pregnant, whether they aborted or didn't abort, have been morons. Either way they weren't going to go anywhere. The ones who decided to keep the kid were evangelical or catholic, the ones who didn't were fairly non-religious. I honestly don't see the contemplation behind both choices being very in-depth or rational tbh.

I think I might be a misanthrope some days.

edit: I'm done, sorry thread creators and mods. Delete my posts if you want.

I have no desire to police this whole thread, and if I did, it'd probably just lead to more death points.

There's really 4 options:
1. Make your own rules and use the honor system to not be a hack / engage in stupid debate in this thread.
2. Make your own rules and have me enforce them but not have rule-breakers punished via points, which gives no incentive for posters to abide by the rules and causes a headache for me.
3. Make your own rules and have me enforce them with points, which will cause outcry from the anti-mod crowd.
4. I lock the thread.

I'm not going to do 4, and I'm not going to do 2.  I really don't want to do 3, but 1 really isn't working.  So, figure this out amongst yourselves for now, and if you want to chagne how this disaster of a thread works, let me know.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 04:58:49 PM
If you want to debate, then take it to the thread where the quote originated.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on June 03, 2012, 06:12:23 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on June 03, 2012, 06:16:41 PM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.
Or you could stop being a whiny emotional wimp and look at this place as a learning experience for yourself. To accuse the Community of disliking you after many of us fought the Mods to see that you were unbanned is reactive. You should sort out these problems instead of projecting them onto the forum. Best of luck.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on June 03, 2012, 10:31:48 PM
I find the thought of teenaged or young adult women who, because of a mistake or an episode of poor judgment, are forced to cut short their dreams and goals to raise a child that will always be on at least some level unwanted much more upsetting than the thought of my parents hypothetically aborting me.

As a person who was likely an accident, I can say that it sucks.  Particularly when it's two random people who hate eachother who are forced by their silly morals to stay with eachother.

I see fewer unwanted kids as a good thing.  But even then we'll have the problem of insanely idiotic 14 year old girls who want to keep their fetus.
this post was just disturbing.

What, because you can't wrap your head around the idea of someone placing more value on a nearly adult human being's potential than a fetus? The 14 year old girls who get pregnant aren't idiots because they decided to abort or not abort; they just tend to be idiots in general.

no the first half was bad enough (like cry for help bad), calling everyone that might be traumatized about terminating something that might call them mom an idiot especially if they're mixed up kids just made it worse.

Oh yeah that was indeed weird.

I'm just saying that based off of my first hand experienced all girls at my school who have gotten pregnant, whether they aborted or didn't abort, have been morons. Either way they weren't going to go anywhere. The ones who decided to keep the kid were evangelical or catholic, the ones who didn't were fairly non-religious. I honestly don't see the contemplation behind both choices being very in-depth or rational tbh.

I think I might be a misanthrope some days.

edit: I'm done, sorry thread creators and mods. Delete my posts if you want.

I have no desire to police this whole thread, and if I did, it'd probably just lead to more death points.

There's really 4 options:
1. Make your own rules and use the honor system to not be a hack / engage in stupid debate in this thread.
2. Make your own rules and have me enforce them but not have rule-breakers punished via points, which gives no incentive for posters to abide by the rules and causes a headache for me.
3. Make your own rules and have me enforce them with points, which will cause outcry from the anti-mod crowd.
4. I lock the thread.

I'm not going to do 4, and I'm not going to do 2.  I really don't want to do 3, but 1 really isn't working.  So, figure this out amongst yourselves for now, and if you want to chagne how this disaster of a thread works, let me know.

If you won't do 4, I'd be willing to take the heat this time.

So, yeah.  Either you guys learn how to play well with others, or the thread goes bye-bye.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 04, 2012, 04:07:55 AM
Welp, I hope you guys had your fun. Certainly at my expense.

I don't know why I hung around here for as long as I did, but I won't be doing it anymore. I'm sick of being treated like I'm not worth anything. You people try to pass yourselves off as adults, well you're not. You're all children. So have fun beating down every child that wants to feel like they have a say in the world. Because you've now succeeded at least once.

1. I hope you stay.  I'd encourage you to ignore stupid threads like these.
2. This is the very reason I locked the first thread - it does nothing but lead to hackishness and harm hte community harmony.  Clearly I was overruled in my "Will of Dave" interpretation, but I think many agree with my principle in locking it - the thread sucks and doesn't serve a meaningful net-beneficial purpose.

This is wrong.

This thread has a perfectly legitimate purpose. Some posters are making an improper use of it, period.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on June 04, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
If you want to debate, then take it to the thread where the quote originated.

Even better...do everything in the thread where it originated. Since that's what the threads are for, you know? This is why I find this thread useless. If you want to call out a poster on being stupid, do it in the thread and give them a chance to defend themselves. Posting here is cowardly .


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on June 04, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Ideally this thread would be for the posts that are completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant, and there would be no need (or want) of a defense.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on June 04, 2012, 11:12:47 AM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 05, 2012, 12:06:06 AM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.

Generally, no.  If it's not understood and accepted by virtually all rational people, it really isn't common sense.  Common sense is simply the thought processes and judgment that most all members of society have, othe than those who are irrational thinkers or lack basic experience from which to develop those thought processes and judgment.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LastVoter on June 05, 2012, 12:11:42 AM
How about we call this thread a free speech(troll) zone? Anything goes here except for obviously unacceptable things like gore, porn and other shocking images.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 05, 2012, 12:16:38 AM
How about we call this thread a free speech(troll) zone? Anything goes here except for obviously unacceptable things like gore, porn and other shocking images.

Well that's not what the creator of the thread wanted.  Most pro-Deluge posters don't want it to be a place of hackery and arguing.  And nowhere on this board is going to be a zone where trolling is allowed.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on June 05, 2012, 01:23:09 AM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.

What do you think "common" means? And if you're talking about people like Bushie or Teddy, they aren't normal at all.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on June 05, 2012, 10:13:54 AM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.

What do you think "common" means? And if you're talking about people like Bushie or Teddy, they aren't normal at all.

Well, for example;

Blue Avatar:  "Most people on welfare are life-long moochers who wouldn't take employment even if it were available."

Red Avatar: *posts in this thread*

It might be considered "common sense" on this forum that Blue Avatar's statement is "absurd," but if you did a poll of the American public odds are that you'd find a substantial majority agreeing with Blue Avatar.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 05, 2012, 04:26:10 PM
The MSM defeated the Tea Party to nominate Romney, the most far-left GOP presidential nominee in memory (at least since Nixon).  The MSM is on a roll, having in 2008 defeated the Clinton Machine to force the Democrats to nominate their most far-left nominee in living memory (at least since McGovern).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 05, 2012, 04:28:10 PM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.

What do you think "common" means? And if you're talking about people like Bushie or Teddy, they aren't normal at all.

Well, for example;

Blue Avatar:  "Most people on welfare are life-long moochers who wouldn't take employment even if it were available."

Red Avatar: *posts in this thread*

It might be considered "common sense" on this forum that Blue Avatar's statement is "absurd," but if you did a poll of the American public odds are that you'd find a substantial majority agreeing with Blue Avatar.

You're misunderstanding the meaning of "common" in "common sense".  It's not the common of "Cancer is common among smokers."  It's the common of "The air is a common resource of humanity."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LastVoter on June 05, 2012, 05:06:05 PM
One man's "completely indefensible or undeniably ignorant" is another's obvious common sense.

What do you think "common" means? And if you're talking about people like Bushie or Teddy, they aren't normal at all.

Well, for example;

Blue Avatar:  "Most people on welfare are life-long moochers who wouldn't take employment even if it were available."

Red Avatar: *posts in this thread*

It might be considered "common sense" on this forum that Blue Avatar's statement is "absurd," but if you did a poll of the American public odds are that you'd find a substantial majority agreeing with Blue Avatar.
That's not common sense, common sense is what 90%* or more people agree on. If 51%* people agree on something, it's narrow majority opinoin.

*Numbers we're pulled out of my ass.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on June 05, 2012, 05:13:21 PM
The point is that not only would a majority of people not find Blue Avatar's statement "absurd," they'd actually agree with it.  You cannot, therefore, claim it's a violation of "common sense."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 05, 2012, 05:14:04 PM
Stop whining, guys.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 05, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
How about if someone quotes you into this thread you just ignore it and don't act like a whiny child?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LastVoter on June 05, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
The point is that not only would a majority of people not find Blue Avatar's statement "absurd," they'd actually agree with it.  You cannot, therefore, claim it's a violation of "common sense."
To put it more simply majority opinion != common sense.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on June 05, 2012, 06:36:55 PM
The point is that not only would a majority of people not find Blue Avatar's statement "absurd," they'd actually agree with it.  You cannot, therefore, claim it's a violation of "common sense."

Yes, but whether or not an opinion actually is absurd, ignorant, or bad has nothing to do with whether or not a majority of people hold it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on June 05, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 05, 2012, 08:24:05 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 05, 2012, 08:41:16 PM
Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 05, 2012, 09:48:13 PM
The real class warfare is not "Rich v. Poor" - it is the entrenched political class and public unions V. us the taxpayers


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 06, 2012, 12:30:05 AM
Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.

Someone's been taking humor tips from Snowstalker, I see...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 06, 2012, 03:37:24 AM
This thread is dead.

See Inks, you eventually got what you wanted without even having to intervene. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 06, 2012, 12:10:31 PM
Oh, for Dave's sake.

Don't argue about the thread.  Use the thread or lose the thread.

Do not respond to this post.  If you are tempted to respond to this post, consider hunting down some absurd, ignorant, or bad posts and posting those instead.

Someone's been taking humor tips from Snowstalker, I see...
Careful, you're tempting Mikado  to pull the trigger.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on June 06, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
That's why the wis-dems and even the national dems are so prone to making huge blunders.  They live in these bubble-enclaves that are surrounded by reality.  Mob mentality is a natural result of their situation.  It's unhealthy. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 06, 2012, 03:05:36 PM
It's nice to know that with all of the real problems we have in this country, let alone in the world, that people have their priorities right. Invented rights for invented minorities clearly trump poverty, debt, international conflict, ect.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on June 06, 2012, 06:52:03 PM

Thou shalt not take the name of Lord of Hosting in vain!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 06, 2012, 06:53:56 PM
That's why the wis-dems and even the national dems are so prone to making huge blunders.  They live in these bubble-enclaves that are surrounded by reality.  Mob mentality is a natural result of their situation.  It's unhealthy. 

Have you ever been to Madison, Miles?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on June 06, 2012, 08:53:58 PM
Madison actually has more of a cross-section of white Dems than it's often given credit for; it's not all the university and the state civil service. On the one hand, there's quite a few Bay-Area-type private-sector young tech workers who are solidly D without being exactly old-school leftists. On the other hand, there's still an industrial working class presence on the north and east sides that, like in Minneapolis or Duluth, has bucked the usual R trend due to the more liberal Scandinavian churches and the lack of white-flight/crime issues.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 06, 2012, 10:19:16 PM

I am proud because I'm free from the totalitarian dominance exerted by the "fitness" dogma and by the absurd cannons of modern society. Because I'm not brainwashed into doing something painful and time-consuming simply because the society tells me it is a good thing to do. Because I'm fine with my current body and I don't feel the need for an overly muscular one, especially if the price to pay for it is daily torture.

Being free from totalitarian dominance will not help you get girls.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: batmacumba on June 06, 2012, 10:38:04 PM

I am proud because I'm free from the totalitarian dominance exerted by the "fitness" dogma and by the absurd cannons of modern society. Because I'm not brainwashed into doing something painful and time-consuming simply because the society tells me it is a good thing to do. Because I'm fine with my current body and I don't feel the need for an overly muscular one, especially if the price to pay for it is daily torture.

Being free from totalitarian dominance will not help you get girls.

You're cheating.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2012, 04:18:48 AM
Quoting yourself in a thread dedicated to bad posts = wut ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 07, 2012, 06:15:56 AM
Did I break the Deluge? I hope so.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 07, 2012, 10:01:40 AM
This thread is dead.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 07, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
The percent swing toward either Barrett or Walker in tonight's election. I apologize for not using strict atlas colours or for using sharper colours to illustrate a contrast.

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There really wasn't a strong swing in either direction for either candidate, which matches the meager 1% shift from 2010.

Note the distinct pattern of the shorter the bus ride from out of state the closer to the border the greater swing towards the Democrat.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 07, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
hahaha wow...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on June 09, 2012, 04:11:09 AM
BRTD doubles down on his criticism of a kindergarten TV show as "repetitive" and "for idiots" with his championing of a show marketed at preteen girls:

Can we get this out once and for all? Why the Hell are people watching "My Little Pony", ironically or not? What the Hell has happened to this world?

Maybe because it's a well-written and funny show with solid animation and production values and good well-developed characters? Kind of the polar opposite of South Park in fact...

Most people don't watch the show "ironically", and I suspect dead0man's daughter really just appreciates it for being as good as it is, but is too embarrassed to admit otherwise.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 09, 2012, 04:14:53 AM
BRTD doubles down on his criticism of a kindergarten TV show as "repetitive" and "for idiots" with his championing of a show marketed at preteen girls:

Can we get this out once and for all? Why the Hell are people watching "My Little Pony", ironically or not? What the Hell has happened to this world?

Maybe because it's a well-written and funny show with solid animation and production values and good well-developed characters? Kind of the polar opposite of South Park in fact...

Most people don't watch the show "ironically", and I suspect dead0man's daughter really just appreciates it for being as good as it is, but is too embarrassed to admit otherwise.
Note that literally everything in that post was true.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on June 09, 2012, 04:18:31 AM
Oh dear, you like to watch a TV show for little girls too?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 09, 2012, 06:08:58 AM
Oh dear, you like to watch a TV show for little girls too?
See signature.

Seriously though,

Can we get this out once and for all? Why the Hell are people watching "My Little Pony", ironically or not? What the Hell has happened to this world?

Maybe because it's a well-written and funny show
This is true,
Quote
with solid animation and production values
this is true,
Quote
and good well-developed characters?
this is, if anything, an understatement,
Quote
Kind of the polar opposite of South Park in fact...
this is true, although maybe for different reasons than BRTD thinks,
Quote

Most people don't watch the show "ironically",
this is also true, and
Quote
and I suspect dead0man's daughter really just appreciates it for being as good as it is, but is too embarrassed to admit otherwise.
this is unverifiable but certainly possible.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 09, 2012, 06:34:56 AM
You genuinely scare me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 09, 2012, 07:38:05 AM
Which specific part of that did you disagree with? :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on June 10, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
By the time Reagan became President, racial issues had mostly been resolved.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on June 10, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
By the time Reagan became President, racial issues had mostly been resolved.

To be fair, they haven't been resolved any further in the past three decades.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on June 12, 2012, 12:18:37 AM
Republicans praying America fails? 

Democrats SALIVATED every time a soldier was killed in Iraq in 2004-2007 hoping it would hurt George Bush. It was disgusting


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 14, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on June 16, 2012, 03:25:13 PM
Lots of people don't  need to be taken care of, but the government seems to do so anyway. That creates resentment, and thankfully, the massive exodus of whites from the Democratic party due to the war on whites.


A state like Wisconsin is populated by a majority of non college whites who just voted in a landslide for Scott Walker because he shares their values.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on June 16, 2012, 03:29:17 PM
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.
thats not really outrageous. i happen to believe republicans (as in the politicians, obviously) don't care about the middle class. does that belong in the deluge?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on June 17, 2012, 04:30:05 AM
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.
thats not really outrageous. i happen to believe republicans (as in the politicians, obviously) don't care about the middle class. does that belong in the deluge?

Of course not. Any post criticizing the Republican party belongs in the Good Post Gallery. I'm not saying that because I'm a hack, but because my college education informs me that this is an objective fact.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 17, 2012, 05:21:24 AM
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.
thats not really outrageous. i happen to believe republicans (as in the politicians, obviously) don't care about the middle class. does that belong in the deluge?

Of course not. Any post criticizing the Republican party belongs in the Good Post Gallery. I'm not saying that because I'm a hack, but because my college education informs me that this is an objective fact.

Funny how you have ignored the second part of the sentence (after the comma) which is utterly ludicrous.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on June 17, 2012, 09:32:57 AM
Well, yes, the Democrats don't care about middle class people, and especially middle class whites.
thats not really outrageous. i happen to believe republicans (as in the politicians, obviously) don't care about the middle class. does that belong in the deluge?

Of course not. Any post criticizing the Republican party belongs in the Good Post Gallery. I'm not saying that because I'm a hack, but because my college education informs me that this is an objective fact.

Funny how you have ignored the second part of the sentence (after the comma) which is utterly ludicrous.

Democrats on here say the Republicans don't care about blacks all the time. And it is a fairly standard idea in political science and political economy that parties only care about those who vote for them. I generally find few things to be as ridiculous as quoting posts into this thread though, so that's my bias.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 17, 2012, 11:50:50 AM
There are plenty of middle class whites that vote Democratic, certainly not the same for black Republicans.

The absurdity is moreso the implication that Republicans DO care about the middle class and the context of the post (check out the thread, it has nothing to do with policies affecting the middle class.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 17, 2012, 11:55:07 AM
I have two contributions.

The absurdity is moreso the implication that Republicans DO care about the middle class

(only because he's stating it as if it's fact)

and this

No-Banning Krazen would be a bad move considering more then half of the left of center side of this forum is composed of people worse then him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 18, 2012, 08:39:22 AM
The person who says "Trust me!" almost never merits trust.

"You'll love this cream-puff!", says the used-car salesman who gets a special bonus for selling a used car worth only the value of scrap metal.

"I have no further territorial demands", says the sabre-rattling practitioner of diplomatic bullying.

"We will honor political pluralism, civil liberties, and legal niceties", says the extremist demagogue.

"I am God's gift to women", says the 'gentleman' rapist.

"I want to be your Special Friend", says a child molester.

"This is a special opportunity available only to you", says the swindler.

The next two words are usually "Trust me!" 

Granted, it's not absurd to make fun of Mitt Romney, but the way he did it...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 18, 2012, 12:45:39 PM
I'll be happy the Occupy movement exists. Do you honestly think Occupy is going to tolerate this?

The Defecating Rapists won't do anything that upsets their Wall Street backers.

Relieved that I can finally complain again about how dumb US Americans are. ;)
There's a reason why Democrats hate and fear intelligence tests for voting.

Wow.

I don't blame you for not knowing -- because you probably trust the MSM and it will never tell you this -- but the Democrats have a lock on the high school dropout vote.  In America, the dumber you are the more likely you are to vote Democrat.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on June 18, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Quote
In America, the dumber you are the more likely you are to vote Democrat.

That must be why the Dems run so strongly with the post graduate degree crowd. :P  A lot of trash has been posted lately hasn't it?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on June 18, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
Unlike such posters as opebo or Bushie, who may lead you astray, listening to Lief WILL cause you to attain greatness.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 21, 2012, 03:30:47 PM
lolwut:

The Illuminati puppet always seem to find a way to get elected in coal country since WV seems to have an eccentic relationship with this weirdo. My views of the infamous Rockefeller started to evolve when I first for a taste of the movie "Zeitgeist" and started to see the family light years away from the scumbags that keep electing this man of the evil Rockefeller family. Still, West Virginia will elect some cocksucker for the coal industry so I honesty don't give an damn one bit about who elected from this state.

Good riddance to Rockefeller.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on June 21, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
Unlike such posters as opebo or Bushie, who may lead you astray, listening to Lief WILL cause you to attain greatness.

Oh, come on, you can't possibly think I was being serious in that context.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 22, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
No, because Israel wants to make a profit on destroying the Muslim race. They are bunch of big nose muthaf**kers who want to take your money and spend on weapons of all kind out to get the Muslims.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 22, 2012, 10:43:38 PM
Michigan is a state that would naturally be heavily outraged by recent obama administration moves on homosexuality and immigration.

Michigan isn't particularly hostile to gay rights. The Republican state legislature is intent more on turning Michigan into a Duty-to-Starve ("Right-to-Work") state in all but name, but that can be turned around fast.  Immigration is one of the possible solutions to the state's sagging real estate values. I see no reason to believe that Michigan would be going against nationwide trends on immigration or gay rights.

I'd love to see PPP, Marist, or Quinnipiac do a poll not only on Presidential support but also on gay rights and immigration in Michigan. 

Michigan was one of the first states to rally to defend marriage, and has one of the strongest measures on the books. And who the heck is going to immigrate TO michigan?

Michigan's Macomb county is of course the prime example of Reagan Democrats, as stan Greenberg noted. Democrats fled to Reagan due to the following, which Obama has thankfully repeated.



Democratic defectors left the Democrats because they believed the party had turned away from them, prioritizing special interests, particularly unions and minorities over middle class interests.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on June 23, 2012, 12:25:17 AM
No, because Israel wants to make a profit on destroying the Muslim race. They are bunch of big nose muthaf**kers who want to take your money and spend on weapons of all kind out to get the Muslims.
Honestly, it's kind of refreshing to see a racist not be so subtle with his racism.  At the start of the thread, he could have just been "useful idiot" parroting nonsense from a racist professor...but he made it clear that the professor wasn't alone in his racism.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 24, 2012, 09:08:15 AM
"Muslim race" ? LOL

Seriously, ban this idiot.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on June 24, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
"Muslim race" ? LOL

Seriously, ban this idiot.

Way ahead of you.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on June 24, 2012, 11:56:32 AM
What party would Theodore Roosevelt be in today?



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 24, 2012, 01:22:11 PM

What ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 24, 2012, 01:24:56 PM

His head is already on a pike.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 24, 2012, 01:27:09 PM
Wow... Looks like the forum is working faster every day. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on June 24, 2012, 01:45:29 PM

Job well done.  Thanks to mods and nyman.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: bgwah on June 24, 2012, 01:59:38 PM

You're thanking the capital of Altasia? Never know you played it! :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on June 24, 2012, 02:09:14 PM

Ha, no. I am already wasting too much time on the site, needlessly spiteful, and generally useless as a poster.  I shudder to think what an Atlasia stint for me would produce.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 24, 2012, 02:13:50 PM

Ha, no. I am already wasting too much time on the site, needlessly spiteful, and generally useless as a poster.  I shudder to think what an Atlasia stint for me would produce.

Consider it? :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 24, 2012, 02:34:02 PM
Romney can survive all the lies, mud slinging, aspersions, deceptions, distortions, fabrications, libel, myths, slander, tall tales, villificaton that the muck raking Dems can throw at him, because none of their false accusations against Romney will stand up to the truth, and the truth will triumph. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 24, 2012, 04:24:24 PM
Was Vermin Supreme a sock?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 24, 2012, 05:21:22 PM

If he was, he fooled us for a long while.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tpfkaw on June 24, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Pretty sure this one qualifies for all three:

Argentina is clearly better off since the Kirchners took over. I don't know her policies very well, but I'm pretty sure I'd vote for her in the context.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 25, 2012, 05:30:32 AM
Pretty sure this one qualifies for all three:

Argentina is clearly better off since the Kirchners took over. I don't know her policies very well, but I'm pretty sure I'd vote for her in the context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999%E2%80%932002) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_economic_crisis_(1999%E2%80%932002))


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 25, 2012, 01:13:14 PM
Quote
Germany’s economy might shrink by as much as 10 percent in the year after a breakup of the euro, Der Spiegel reported, citing an unpublished study from the German Finance Ministry.

The number of jobless in Germany would rise to more than 5 million if the currency union falls apart, the magazine cited the study as saying in an article on its website today. Germany had 2.87 million unemployed in May, the Federal Labor Agency said on May 31.
[...]
Well that would be one gratifying result.
Yes, one of the world's largest economies contracting 10% and millions of people losing their jobs is gratifying to opebo.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on June 25, 2012, 03:00:27 PM

No, just a racist troll.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on June 25, 2012, 05:50:31 PM
Some people care, but none of them were going to vote for him anyway.

You meant to say, liberals don't care because liberals don't care about white police officers who hunt illegal immigrants.  Liberals don't care about veterans or soldiers.  Liberals don't care about dead Mexicans from drug cartels because marijuana should be legalized.  Liberals don't care about preserving life.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on June 26, 2012, 05:24:16 PM
This forum needs more prog rock references.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 26, 2012, 05:48:38 PM

Stop.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on June 26, 2012, 05:51:04 PM

But it does. Then again, we're not ones for busting through walls.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on June 26, 2012, 05:58:01 PM

Seriously?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 26, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
No.  And reposts that say stuff along the lines of "Since the other one was deleted" are going to keep getting 10 points.  So stop already


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 26, 2012, 07:51:04 PM

Yes. Prog rock is the sh*t.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 28, 2012, 09:40:07 AM
I can't believe Kennedy got it right and Roberts got it wrong. This thing is unjust in many ways.

To the GOP: PUT A PAUL ON THE TICKET OR YOU LOSE


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 28, 2012, 10:04:13 AM
Everything from a certain poster on this page would qualify: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=155261.75


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 28, 2012, 08:35:53 PM
But evolution is not fact and shouldn't be taught as such.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on June 28, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on June 28, 2012, 09:02:22 PM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.
Atomic theory is just that, a theory. Should we nix the neutrons too?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on June 28, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.
Atomic theory is just that, a theory. Should we nix the neutrons too?
No- but there's obviously a difference and some one expressing a view of it shouldn't have their views mocked... especially when many in our nation hold the same views. Do you folks want to only have liberals on this board? It'd be mighty boring to only have conservatives on here for me


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 28, 2012, 09:11:56 PM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.
Atomic theory is just that, a theory. Should we nix the neutrons too?
No- but there's obviously a difference and some one expressing a view of it shouldn't have their views mocked... especially when many in our nation hold the same views. Do you folks want to only have liberals on this board? It'd be mighty boring to only have conservatives on here for me

When someone says a concept that has so much evidence backing it shouldn't be taught, then I personally don't see how that constitutes as reasonable and that's why I quoted it in this thread.  I don't want this to be an all-liberal or all-conservative board, either.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on June 28, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.
Atomic theory is just that, a theory. Should we nix the neutrons too?
No- but there's obviously a difference and some one expressing a view of it shouldn't have their views mocked... especially when many in our nation hold the same views. Do you folks want to only have liberals on this board? It'd be mighty boring to only have conservatives on here for me

When someone says a concept that has so much evidence backing it shouldn't be taught, then I personally don't see how that constitutes as reasonable and that's why I quoted it in this thread.  I don't want this to be an all-liberal or all-conservative board, either.
I guarantee fewer people are atheist then don't believe in evolution... yet if I put atheist views in here- which I would not- I'd get called a bigot or any name you could think of. There's a double standard on the board and while I disagree with JCL on this, I hate to see his views mocked when he's putting them forward in a polite and reasonable manner


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on June 28, 2012, 10:32:03 PM
What krazen is to the left wing- there are 5 liberals on this board who are the same to us

After most elections there are folks whom are happy if the Democrat wins, and there are folks whom are happy when the Republican wins. I would put Krazen1211 strongly in the second camp, and numerous posters here in the first camp. Surely, I strongly suspect that he took as much pleasure in the victory of Scott Walker as I did. That said, I have not noted him as being a particularly strong conservative ideologue. There seems to be a strong streak of prejuidice in this forum that equates being Republican with being "right-wing" and "extremist."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on June 29, 2012, 12:44:07 AM
Can we agree that this gem is absurd?

Goes to show that even the scientific community is divided. The evolution side may have a 1% edge but we have Ron and Rand Paul.

I'm a realistic Paultard and what is this


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on June 29, 2012, 01:00:28 AM
Scott- you're better then this my friend. You and I both believe in evolution, but we can also be frank and admit it is a theory- a well supported one, sure- but a theory.
In science, "theory" has a different meaning than the everyday use of the word.  From the United States National Academy of Sciences (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11876&page=11)
Quote
The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics)...One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed.

<snip>

In science, a “fact” typically refers to an observation, measurement, or other form of evidence that can be expected to occur the same way under similar circumstances. However, scientists also use the term “fact” to refer to a scientific explanation that has been tested and confirmed so many times that there is no longer a compelling reason to keep testing it or looking for additional examples. In that respect, the past and continuing occurrence of evolution is a scientific fact. Because the evidence supporting it is so strong, scientists no longer question whether biological evolution has occurred and is continuing to occur. Instead, they investigate the mechanisms of evolution, how rapidly evolution can take place, and related questions
Evolution is a fact just like the Earth going around the sun is a fact or that we are all made of tiny things called cells is a fact.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on June 29, 2012, 01:03:56 AM
Well, it depends on what you mean by evolution exactly.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on June 29, 2012, 01:05:41 AM
Inks, I thought we were trying to discourage arguing in these threads, not joining the arguments.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on June 29, 2012, 01:06:29 AM
Well, it depends on what you mean by evolution exactly.
Lets just whip out the ol' dictionary ......
Evolution noun-change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 29, 2012, 04:39:48 AM
Inks, I thought we were trying to discourage arguing in these threads, not joining the arguments.

He's not, he's just contributing to the thread by posting an absurdity directly in it. ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on June 29, 2012, 06:23:30 AM
Can we agree that this gem is absurd?

Goes to show that even the scientific community is divided. The evolution side may have a 1% edge but we have Ron and Rand Paul.

I'm a realistic Paultard and what is this

I'm an unrealistic Paultard (Johnsontard?) and still think JCL's being nutty, especially since it was in response to me talking about Project Steve (http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve/).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on June 29, 2012, 07:17:02 AM
I don't like the feeling that I'm picking on someone, and I'm not even convinced that a thread like the deluge should be permitted, but this is exactly the kind of atrocious post that this thread is intended for.

Look at the Islamic world, they are having kids at the rate many western Christians once did and at some point may out populate the Christian world. That is something I don't want.
Why? Changing demographics is a fact and they will have huge consequences in the long run.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on June 29, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
I don't like the feeling that I'm picking on someone, and I'm not even convinced that a thread like the deluge should be permitted, but this is exactly the kind of atrocious post that this thread is intended for.

Look at the Islamic world, they are having kids at the rate many western Christians once did and at some point may out populate the Christian world. That is something I don't want.
Why? Changing demographics is a fact and they will have huge consequences in the long run.

Because his thesis is that the use of contraceptives will lead to the fall of western civilization.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on June 29, 2012, 08:42:22 AM
The whole thing is pretty ridiculous, but the bolded part stands out the most:

I can only concur.

I always said Rick was more electable than Romney for precisely this reason. Mitt's just so easy to attack.

Ditto, except I've always said that Romney was the easiest GOP opponent for Obama to beat.  That's why the MSM made him the candidate.  (Santorum, because he's so socially conservative and sort of an economic-liberal, would have been the second-easiest for Obama to beat, which is why the MSM left him to last.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 29, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
The whole thing is pretty ridiculous, but the bolded part stands out the most:

I can only concur.

I always said Rick was more electable than Romney for precisely this reason. Mitt's just so easy to attack.

Ditto, except I've always said that Romney was the easiest GOP opponent for Obama to beat.  That's why the MSM made him the candidate.  (Santorum, because he's so socially conservative and sort of an economic-liberal, would have been the second-easiest for Obama to beat, which is why the MSM left him to last.)

This is hardly absurd, are you trying to tell me Santorum is some kind of social-democrat?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 30, 2012, 09:54:17 AM

However, almost every Republican who posts on this board is 100% sure that Obama is going to lose, ignoring the hard evidence for the idea that America will be so enraged by Obamacare that that will be their only issue.  And they might be right, but why are they so certain?


I'm a former Democrat (bluedog variety) and now a registered Independent.  I think the rationale for seeing Obama lose badly is really simple:

The results of the 2010 election.

What's changed since then?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 30, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
Mynheer Peeperkorn, you have yet to explain how social libertarianism is "true conservatism". I'm trying to find out the reasoning behind that. Merely using the fact that he was named "Mr. Conservative" in no way proves that he is the standard bearer for all conservatives of all time, yet that seems your only reasoning.

I'm not your teacher. Go to wikipedia.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 30, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
Frankly, this is the moment to reconsider your position on the whole sexuality thing. I mean, not actively going out after other men is one thing, but when the fruits of love fall in your lap, ypu'd be a fool not to think it over,...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on June 30, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
The whole thing is pretty ridiculous, but the bolded part stands out the most:

I can only concur.

I always said Rick was more electable than Romney for precisely this reason. Mitt's just so easy to attack.

Ditto, except I've always said that Romney was the easiest GOP opponent for Obama to beat.  That's why the MSM made him the candidate.  (Santorum, because he's so socially conservative and sort of an economic-liberal, would have been the second-easiest for Obama to beat, which is why the MSM left him to last.)

This is hardly absurd, are you trying to tell me Santorum is some kind of social-democrat?
Sort of. He'd be easy to imagine on the technocratic old right of any western European major center left party if he'd just shut the inks up about gays.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 30, 2012, 02:49:13 PM
The whole thing is pretty ridiculous, but the bolded part stands out the most:

I can only concur.

I always said Rick was more electable than Romney for precisely this reason. Mitt's just so easy to attack.

Ditto, except I've always said that Romney was the easiest GOP opponent for Obama to beat.  That's why the MSM made him the candidate.  (Santorum, because he's so socially conservative and sort of an economic-liberal, would have been the second-easiest for Obama to beat, which is why the MSM left him to last.)

This is hardly absurd, are you trying to tell me Santorum is some kind of social-democrat?
Sort of. He'd be easy to imagine on the technocratic old right of any western European major center left party if he'd just shut the inks up about gays.

Fair enough, but I'd hardly call whyterain's assertion absurd by any measure. Also, Belge, don't take it personally. It's just absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 30, 2012, 04:06:32 PM
At least 90% of this thread. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=155457.0)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on June 30, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
Breaking my own rule for this one.

 

Case in point with your post,

Extremists exist in both parties


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on June 30, 2012, 10:26:26 PM
At least 90% of this thread. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=155457.0)

Even more absurd: Winfield is not in that 90%.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 01, 2012, 01:10:54 PM
Worst post ever ? Worst post ever.

You can't figure out why having a well educatedvand healthy society is beneficial in general? Really?

It would be. However this almost never turns out to be the case. Also I would rather keep more of my own money and spend it on what I want, instead of what the state wants.

You as a Sovereign Individual (tm) can't pay for an ordered and peaceful society even if you want to.

Witty barbs aside, what I mean is I would rather save some additional money for myself, or spend it on a holiday or a car, than pay for the education, healthcare and benefits of slum-dwelling drug addicts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on July 01, 2012, 03:01:29 PM
North American literature is Faulkner + A Confederacy of Dunces + the first half of Catch 22.

Everything else is "fine" and that's all. I've always felt sympathy for Fitzgerald, but his novels are quite irrelevant. Twain is G rated.

Hemingway is trash.

In poetry Whitman and Ginsberg are great.

And that's the end of North American literature.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on July 01, 2012, 03:05:01 PM
North American literature is Faulkner + A Confederacy of Dunces + the first half of Catch 22.

Everything else is "fine" and that's all. I've always felt sympathy for Fitzgerald, but his novels are quite irrelevant. Twain is G rated.

Hemingway is trash.

In poetry Whitman and Ginsberg are great.

And that's the end of North American literature.

I'm more curious as to the strange definition of "irrelevant" he uses.

Also, what the hell's his problem with Mark Twain?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on July 01, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
North American literature is Faulkner + A Confederacy of Dunces + the first half of Catch 22.

Everything else is "fine" and that's all. I've always felt sympathy for Fitzgerald, but his novels are quite irrelevant. Twain is G rated.

Hemingway is trash.

In poetry Whitman and Ginsberg are great.

And that's the end of North American literature.

...

...

...yeah that's pretty awful.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: homelycooking on July 01, 2012, 08:30:17 PM
It isn't every day that you see someone categorically trash the literary works and traditions of an entire continent.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on July 02, 2012, 08:52:37 AM
A first post and not particularly skillful troll from someone named "Kenyan Obama"...

Lots of young people have mental health issues, sometimes needing hospitalization. Often they just benefit from having medical supervision and regular prescriptions... and yes the cost of the prescription alone is probably less than the cost of insurance... but there's a mental block associated with spending that higher amount with no medical supervision vs. having a doctor prescribe it and having it be much less expensive as part of overall care.

Dental work is not something that springs up at age 40, either.

Well tough luck. We were all young once and we made due. The free market is what makes everyone so successful. If these young people have problems, they should seek religious, not secular treatment.

 There is no plausible defense of Osamacare. It's a Fascist attack on the freedoms of everyday hard-working Americans engineered by a Kenyan socialist who is trying to destroy this country. It is every American's responsibility to fight back against this dung concoction of Beast Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on July 02, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
Looks like a sock account, just from the third sentence.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: homelycooking on July 02, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Why are they called "sock accounts"?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on July 02, 2012, 10:03:23 AM
I think it's on account of the idea of using a sock as a simple handpuppet.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 02, 2012, 12:57:29 PM
Yeah it's short for "sockpuppet".

Possibly that or just a lurker who opted to troll.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on July 02, 2012, 01:01:55 PM
Looks like a sock account, just from the third sentence.

Clearly.  The guy is just trying too hard, as he slings epithets around in lieu of actually thinking. :) 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 03, 2012, 10:00:53 AM
Palin was the only reason McCain had any chance at all.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on July 03, 2012, 04:29:31 PM
This is from kenyanobama, but I still thought I'd post it:


I agree. Though the loss of Walsh wouldn't be too great: he's a lib.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2012, 10:11:07 AM
Dixie might be an idiot, but this definitely crosses the line.


Could we just lock this thread? This has turned into a total and utter disaster and train wreck, courtesy of our latest stupid troll.

I fail to see how my posts are stupid and trollish. I don't think of your left-wing posts as stupid or trollish, rather I just disagree with them.

You are. Your clearly a retarded f-----r who hates black people and is just a dick in almost every way. Heck your probably one of these right-wingers who turns out to be a child rapist in reality.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 04, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
Sorry, let's put it so.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9302;sa=showPosts

Who's this guy, a lame attempt at parodying left-wing hacks ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 04, 2012, 10:14:23 AM
Yeah, that's probably a sock account, too.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on July 04, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
Yeah, that's probably a sock account, too.

Could he be created by the same person who made Kenyanobama? Double trolling?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Supersonic on July 04, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
Dixie might be an idiot, but this definitely crosses the line.


Could we just lock this thread? This has turned into a total and utter disaster and train wreck, courtesy of our latest stupid troll.

I fail to see how my posts are stupid and trollish. I don't think of your left-wing posts as stupid or trollish, rather I just disagree with them.

You are. Your clearly a retarded f-----r who hates black people and is just a dick in almost every way. Heck your probably one of these right-wingers who turns out to be a child rapist in reality.

At least Kenyan Obama was funny, this guy on the other hand...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 04, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
kenyanobama wasn't even remotely funny. Neither is this guy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 04, 2012, 03:11:21 PM
This forum unfortunately has very few left-wing posters, especially compared to the multitude of out and out fascists mucking around.
Uh...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 05, 2012, 03:04:37 AM
Face it:  Combined, Obama and Biden are the dumbest men ever in the White House.  At least since LBJ and Humphrey.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 05, 2012, 03:12:51 AM
You know, we could keep out a lot of awful new posters if there was a requirement of like 1000 posts or so to post on the 2012 forum. Has there ever been a quality poster who had a majority of their posts there?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 05, 2012, 10:52:37 AM
You know, we could keep out a lot of awful new posters if there was a requirement of like 1000 posts or so to post on the 2012 forum. Has there ever been a quality poster who had a majority of their posts there?

Tender, if you count the polling subforums, is a fine user.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on July 05, 2012, 02:19:26 PM
You know, we could keep out a lot of awful new posters if there was a requirement of like 1000 posts or so to post on the 2012 forum. Has there ever been a quality poster who had a majority of their posts there?

Tender, if you count the polling subforums, is a fine user.

Tender's basically a human RSS feed, but the information he posts is useful.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 05, 2012, 10:53:58 PM
Morden and Tender post a lot in other forums too though. I'm referring to posters that post almost exclusively there. Yeah that D-SC guy isn't bad but he doesn't post a lot either.

Seriously the name of this thread could easily double as the name of the 2012 forum.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 08, 2012, 01:22:59 PM
Debates hardly matter as much with today's electorate.


Tell that to Rick Perry; if not for his vocal missteps, he probably would have been the Republican nominee, not Romney.

Primaries and general elections are not the same. Obama could slug Romney in the face and these extreme lefties will still vote for him anyway. Surely they don't care what is actually said in the debate.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on July 08, 2012, 05:54:06 PM
^I think that's pretty fair though. Half those extreme lefties would probably be more excited to vote for Obama if he punched Romney in the face. :P



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 08, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
^I think that's pretty fair though. Half those extreme lefties would probably be more excited to vote for Obama if he punched Romney in the face. :P



...

Just as, and I'm sure you'll agree, the extreme rightists would be more than happy to vote for Romney if he punched Obama in the face.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 09, 2012, 05:36:23 AM
So the liberals won? There's hope for legalizing alcohol.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Cincinnatus on July 09, 2012, 07:16:20 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 09, 2012, 07:20:14 PM

I had only been awake for about 20 minutes when I wrote that :(


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on July 10, 2012, 05:04:25 AM
^I think that's pretty fair though. Half those extreme lefties would probably be more excited to vote for Obama if he punched Romney in the face. :P



...

Just as, and I'm sure you'll agree, the extreme rightists would be more than happy to vote for Romney if he punched Obama in the face.

Yep, probably. I think people are wrong to think politics are currently above that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on July 10, 2012, 05:35:35 PM
I actually think Nickelback is pretty good


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: courts on July 11, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
i hate you memphis, i was just going to post that then i noticed you had.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 12, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
The whole thread is a mess, but this is particularly bizarre:

(Jews won't fall for horses, and in fact they probably wouldn't've when the Siege of Troy itself was going on)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 13, 2012, 07:32:54 PM
I'll grant he was trying to be humorous, but given that anyone who spends any time on this forum would know which Rick was meant, the post belongs here instead.

Rick would be welcomed by the masses in Tampa.

You sure that Governor Perry has a shot?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on July 13, 2012, 10:21:34 PM
The whole thread is a mess, but this is particularly bizarre:

(Jews won't fall for horses, and in fact they probably wouldn't've when the Siege of Troy itself was going on)

It was an attempt at humor: I was trying to say that the Arab states would not be able to defeat Israel using fake wooden horses, the way the Greek states defeated Troy, and then I continue to humorously note that proto-Jews were already around when the Greeks defeated Troy and humorously claim that this tactic would not have been successful against proto-Jews.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 14, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
^I think that's pretty fair though. Half those extreme lefties would probably be more excited to vote for Obama if he punched Romney in the face. :P



Actually, that'd be pretty cool.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 14, 2012, 02:39:14 PM

The worst part is that Redalgo wrote a book about me and you give him a simplistic sentence. That deserves some sort of at least verbal punishment.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 14, 2012, 03:19:28 PM
Yeah I get it. Better to not post at all then post what I posted. He did write a book about you though I was so impressed by that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Redalgo on July 14, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
Don't think of that as a bad post. Think of it as a moderately disappointing post with some hidden potential for goodness yet to be realized. In other words, it's not too late to go back and use the edit feature to elaborate!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 14, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
Don't think of that as a bad post. Think of it as a moderately disappointing post with some hidden potential for goodness yet to be realized. In other words, it's not too late to go back and use the edit feature to elaborate!

I just might :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 15, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
This is one of the more idiotic things that anyone has ever said to me.

I notice that your "political matrix" scores indicate that your views are similar to Gov. Perry's


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 16, 2012, 09:03:41 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 17, 2012, 12:33:00 AM
Yeah I get it. Better to not post at all then post what I posted. He did write a book about you though I was so impressed by that.

But then you would've ceased not posting at all. ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 17, 2012, 02:19:31 PM
I disagree, Kalwejt. The Update Thread is clearly hotter.

()

Doesn't really fit here, I know, but I don't know where else to put it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 17, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
I normally don't post in here, but this one's such a failure at reading comprehension I can't resist:

Title: McCain: Palin was a better candidate than Romney!
Ouch! With friends like this who needs the Obama campaign.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/07/mccain-i-wasnt-scared-off-by-romney-tax-returns-129201.html (http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/07/mccain-i-wasnt-scared-off-by-romney-tax-returns-129201.html)

Mitt Romney's tax returns had nothing to do with Sen. John McCain's decision to choose Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008, according to the Arizona Republican, saying he chose the former Alaska governor because she was a "better candidate."

...

"Of course not," McCain told POLITICO when asked if the contents of Romney's tax returns disqualified him from the selection process. "I don’t know what depths these people won’t reach. Obviously, it’s just outrageous. That’s just outrageous. It shows the – it’s so disgraceful for them to allege something that they have absolutely no knowledge of."

Asked why he chose not to go with Romney, McCain said: "Oh come on, because we thought that Sarah Palin was the better candidate. Why did we not take [Tim] Pawlenty, why did we not take any of the other 10 other people. Why didn’t I? Because we had a better candidate, the same way with all the others. ... Come on, why? That’s a stupid question."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 17, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
...and they continue to do it, time after time. Beyond self parody now.

...after himself being the one to bring up the topic the last at least two times. ::)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 20, 2012, 12:36:45 AM
Shut the thread down, nothing is ever going to top this:

Democrats have influences like John Maynard Keynes, Che Guevara, and Marx.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on July 21, 2012, 02:05:11 PM
Its odd that the alleged killer has the last name Holmes, which is similar to Katie Holmes who was in the first Batman movie.  I wonder if they are distant relatives.  It probably has nothing to do with his motives, but it is an odd coincidence.  And Katie Holmes was removed from the 2nd Batman movie which upset many fans.  She also recently divorced Tom Cruise and left Scientology so I'm sure some conspiracy theorists will find a way to blame the mass murders on Scientology. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on July 21, 2012, 06:14:05 PM
This is depressing because there's nothing human made and existing.... let's say food diversity... no... I can't think of anything substantive.
We've invented nearly everything in the past 150 years.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on July 21, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
I think your signature comparing Romney to a murderer is disrespectful to the victims of the murders in Colorado. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 21, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
I think your signature comparing Romney to a murderer is disrespectful to the victims of the murders in Colorado. 

I got pneumonia from reading this post.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on July 21, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
This is depressing because there's nothing human made and existing.... let's say food diversity... no... I can't think of anything substantive.
We've invented nearly everything in the past 150 years.
Care to refute the point?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on July 21, 2012, 09:16:03 PM
This is depressing because there's nothing human made and existing.... let's say food diversity... no... I can't think of anything substantive.
We've invented nearly everything in the past 150 years.
Care to refute the point?

I said I misspoke.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on July 22, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
This is depressing because there's nothing human made and existing.... let's say food diversity... no... I can't think of anything substantive.
We've invented nearly everything in the past 150 years.
Care to refute the point?
[/quote

Too silly to even expand upon it in great detail. Also I had written a mini-essay as a retort earlier but the computer ate it (twice.... stupid crappy wi-fi connection). Suffice to say, the men who invented farms, the concept of private property, cities, hospitals, universities, the boat, writing, the method of creating alcoholic beverages...etc, whoever they were, made Steve Jobs look like the mere gadget merchant that he was.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on July 23, 2012, 01:33:54 AM
Well he did say 150 years...but wifi was "invented" by an Indonesian.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on July 23, 2012, 03:51:45 AM
Memphis point certainly stands. It's very obvious hyperbole, but as a response to the statement that the US has come up with nothing it's perfectly valid.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Redalgo on July 23, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
How interesting that it took a Democrat to lose the war on poverty.

Think about it:  Why would a Democrat want to end poverty?  They aren't that stupid.  Poverty is the health of the Democratic Party.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 23, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
How interesting that it took a Democrat to lose the war on poverty.

Think about it:  Why would a Democrat want to end poverty?  They aren't that stupid.  Poverty is the health of the Democratic Party.

Time to break out the

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on July 23, 2012, 07:09:50 PM
A Kindle Fire is not a computer. If it is so is an iPad, or even a smartphone.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on July 23, 2012, 07:40:34 PM
How interesting that it took a Democrat to lose the war on poverty.

Think about it:  Why would a Democrat want to end poverty?  They aren't that stupid.  Poverty is the health of the Democratic Party.

Time to break out the

()

Stern...but fair.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 23, 2012, 09:16:07 PM
From Alexis de Tocqueville on, all objective observers have noted that Northerners are much more racist than Southerners.

Btw, do you know which major U.S. city had the first openly gay mayor?  Frisco?  L.A.?  NYC?  Portland?  Boston?  Chicago?  Seattle? 

With apologies to that "redneck" comedian guy:  "If you don't know which major U.S. city had the first openly gay mayor, you MIGHT be an MSM zombie!"  [audience laughter]

I could do a list of those.

"If you thought there was any chance that the Aurora theater shooter was a Tea Partyer ... , you MIGHT be an MSM zombie!"  [audience laughter]


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on July 24, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
From Alexis de Tocqueville on, all objective observers have noted that Northerners are much more racist than Southerners.

Btw, do you know which major U.S. city had the first openly gay mayor?  Frisco?  L.A.?  NYC?  Portland?  Boston?  Chicago?  Seattle? 

With apologies to that "redneck" comedian guy:  "If you don't know which major U.S. city had the first openly gay mayor, you MIGHT be an MSM zombie!"  [audience laughter]

I could do a list of those.

"If you thought there was any chance that the Aurora theater shooter was a Tea Partyer ... , you MIGHT be an MSM zombie!"  [audience laughter]

It's especially hilarious since Providence is in the North.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on July 24, 2012, 03:03:06 AM

 Stones (money)!! – WHO; receives’, earn or give. WHY? … game on, this produces heat. Its bottled, sold, consumed by those WHEN the WANT must be satisfied, depending on ones’ entry point and what expectation is/need(s) taught. In comparing the pass to the present; the stones are bigger, there are no machines big enough to move them, and so, Dynamite (elections) “the heat” is required. It is a good thing recognized by many when considering the political heat of the alternate life (The Masses) – Russia, china, Libya, Egypt, Syria…
  The game just has to be played out, for reasons… well… they do, and, we’re in it, the question is, what position do you want to play?


I know, I know, but just look at it!

e: Could also, of course, fit in the Institute, but you need to spread t_host posts around.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 24, 2012, 05:06:12 AM
Slightly embarrassed about how long I laughed at this:

My evidence is purely the reason why when we attempt to teleport living beings, the energy and way of living is left behind. Energy is not and cannot be controlled by matter.

I already love this guy. ;D


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 24, 2012, 10:11:31 AM
Her sexuality is irrelevant. Her achievement as the first American and third overall woman in space is very relevant.

Rest in Peace.

Her sexuality is relevant. We can be heroes too.

People like you are such an inspiration to a new generation.  Congrats on being a lesbian.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 24, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Anyone into gut punching? Looking for a gp partner near Eastern Pennsylvania.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on July 24, 2012, 04:26:09 PM
I never thought I'd actually post a quote in here, but this one just had me chuckling.

Romney will not win lol. i know some old fogies will voted GOP all their life and they are gonna vote Democrat for the first time because they said of all the GOP candidnates they seen in their 80+ years hes the worst one with Bob Dole being 2nd.i am pretty sure others think that as well.  so Obama/Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on July 25, 2012, 08:57:31 PM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 26, 2012, 07:30:24 AM
Romney.

Like Obama, he was groomed from an early age to run for high office.

He even could have written a book called Dreams From My Father.

McCain, the son and grandson of admirals, probably thought that, at best, he might rise high in the Navy.  He had no chance or idea for a political career until he became a Congressional liaison in his early-40s.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 26, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
Just being President will encourage businesses to hire.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on July 27, 2012, 11:36:40 AM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.
Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Quote
The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on July 27, 2012, 11:39:56 AM
On what conditions would there need to be for Oklahoma to go Democratic.

Clinton/Schweitzer vs. Huntsman/Ayotte, with Clinton leading by a 2008-like margin.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 27, 2012, 11:54:48 AM
I realize that Obama's presence on the ticket made it more dem but even in 2004 it had a PVI of D+6.4.

The reason I'm asking this is because when it comes to race, the state is almost a perfect microcosm of the country, so why isn't it a microcosm politically? It was, for the most part, a swing state for most of the 20th century. It is around 63-64 percent white with the rest being mostly black or hispanic with some asians here and there.



It's called voter fraud in Chicago.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 27, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.
Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Quote
The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.

I think what sjoyce was getting at was that the neither the Fugitive Slave Act nor the Compromise of 1850 as a while are choice examples to use when talking up the advantages of beig willing to compromise.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on July 27, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
Tonight's ceremony apparently has a section praising the NHS as part of a thing showing the best of Britain.

Mitt'll end up walking out or something.

See this is the socialist attitude that we're dealing with in the next election.

This Darius guy seems like trouble.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on July 27, 2012, 02:31:53 PM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.
Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Quote
The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.

It's absurd that Nappy's saying compromise is bad because the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on July 27, 2012, 02:43:09 PM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.
Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Quote
The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.

It's absurd that Nappy's saying compromise is bad because the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.

I didn't say compromise was bad lol.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 27, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
Clarence has compromised by moving one disastrous policy to another. Quite a low standard if you ask me. I really hope it doesn't become a trend for this Senate to ignore common sense because the sponsor of a bill expresses a willingness to compromise. After all, the Fugitive Slave Act was a compromise.
Um............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Quote
The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850, as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

Yes, what an ABSURD statement.

Though if you are arguing semantics here, it would be inaccurate to call the Fugitive Slave Act a "compromise" in itself.  It was, after all, part of the much larger "Compromise of 1850".  Likely, it would've been very hard to pass it as a standalone act.

I think what sjoyce was getting at was that the neither the Fugitive Slave Act nor the Compromise of 1850 as a while are choice examples to use when talking up the advantages of beig willing to compromise.
The Compromise of 1850 would have been a good example to use in discussing compromise, since it involved things that were good as well as things that were not. The idea that a portion of a compromise thus becomes a position of compromise in itself is absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 27, 2012, 09:37:54 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9367;sa=showPosts;start=0

I can't tell if this guy is a troll or if he truly thinks people should take his incoherent ramblings seriously.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 27, 2012, 10:10:13 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9367;sa=showPosts;start=0

I can't tell if this guy is a troll or if he truly thinks people should take his incoherent ramblings seriously.

Plus he's got 80+ posts and he's only been here for about 11 hours.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on July 28, 2012, 09:23:17 AM

Any objective analysis would conclude that the Democrats are far more into using religion to prop up their policies -- from Obama claiming that Jesus would support his budget to Nancy Pelosi claiming that her job as Speaker was to implement policies that comport with the Gospels to the ubiquitous Democrats braying about "What Would Jesus Cut?".  Oh, and Congressional Democrats demanding more support from churches for their policies.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 28, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
This kind of belongs here for in addition to be absurd not making any sense:

Chick'fila is a growing franchise that creates jobs. How amazing that some radicals would try to bash a good business.

Dude, the Nazis were a growing franchise in Germany in the 1930s.

Jews were the 1%ers -- but Germans, like Bostonians, knew how to handle people who believed in the Old Testament. 
()

Massachusetts, from hanging "witches" to CHICKFILNACHT, feels like old times.

This. Protesting the discriminatory policies of a fast-food franchise is totally comparable to the climate of hate that ultimately resulted in the mass genocide of eleven million people.

Tell it to the kulaks.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 28, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Kristallnacht post.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on July 28, 2012, 02:25:45 PM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 28, 2012, 09:03:20 PM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 28, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
I told y'all he was bad news.  But did anybody listen?  Noooooooo. ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 29, 2012, 12:11:36 AM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.
He should have known his post belongs to a genre only allowed to the Left.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: NY Jew on July 29, 2012, 01:21:15 AM
This kind of belongs here for in addition to be absurd not making any sense:

Chick'fila is a growing franchise that creates jobs. How amazing that some radicals would try to bash a good business.

Dude, the Nazis were a growing franchise in Germany in the 1930s.

Jews were the 1%ers -- but Germans, like Bostonians, knew how to handle people who believed in the Old Testament. 
()

Massachusetts, from hanging "witches" to CHICKFILNACHT, feels like old times.

This. Protesting the discriminatory policies of a fast-food franchise is totally comparable to the climate of hate that ultimately resulted in the mass genocide of eleven million people.

Tell it to the kulaks.

I happen to agree 100% with the Nazi part of his statement (the 1% thing is a bunch of antismeitc propaganda)


if rahm Emanuel wants to ban every single store in Chicago that is against animalistic "marriages" he'll have to close down every single Jewish store on West Devon Avenue.

even the self hating (Jew) idiotic mayor Bloomberg will never do this Nazi like act.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 29, 2012, 01:33:18 AM
if rahm Emanuel wants to ban every single store in Chicago that is against animalistic "marriages" he'll have to close down every single Jewish store on West Devon Avenue.


lol


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on July 29, 2012, 02:17:57 AM
How appropriate that that was posted directly into the Deluge.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on July 29, 2012, 07:17:38 AM
How appropriate that that was posted directly into the Deluge.

We've achieved the Singularity.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: hawkeye59 on July 29, 2012, 12:07:32 PM
This kind of belongs here for in addition to be absurd not making any sense:

Chick'fila is a growing franchise that creates jobs. How amazing that some radicals would try to bash a good business.

Dude, the Nazis were a growing franchise in Germany in the 1930s.

Jews were the 1%ers -- but Germans, like Bostonians, knew how to handle people who believed in the Old Testament. 
()

Massachusetts, from hanging "witches" to CHICKFILNACHT, feels like old times.

This. Protesting the discriminatory policies of a fast-food franchise is totally comparable to the climate of hate that ultimately resulted in the mass genocide of eleven million people.

Tell it to the kulaks.

I happen to agree 100% with the Nazi part of his statement (the 1% thing is a bunch of antismeitc propaganda)


if rahm Emanuel wants to ban every single store in Chicago that is against animalistic "marriages" he'll have to close down every single Jewish store on West Devon Avenue.

even the self hating (Jew) idiotic mayor Bloomberg will never do this Nazi like act.
You make me ashamed to be Jewish.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on July 29, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
I love that the Deluge has apparently reached critical mass and become self-perpetuating.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on July 29, 2012, 01:45:38 PM
Homosexuals want VRA districts.

http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_18462724?nclick_check=1

"Communities of interest such as Latinos and African-Americans are protected to ensure proper representation," said Mario Guerrero, government affairs director for Equality California, a gay advocacy group. "We want the same opportunity to elect representatives from our community."



I bet those same gay anti semites would be the strongest opposition to a Jewish congressional district in the only area it's possible to do so Southern Brooklyn.  (could be a 60%+ McCain seat)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 29, 2012, 02:08:03 PM

Same here.  Disgusting and pathetic.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on July 29, 2012, 09:58:36 PM

Same here.  Disgusting and pathetic.

Agreement.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 29, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

Besides, Krystal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystal_%28restaurant%29) and Chick-fil-A have nothing to do with each other.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on July 30, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
I have to be the only person in the country more motivated to support Romney because he strapped his dog to the roof of his car. I f**king hate dogs.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on July 30, 2012, 02:16:44 PM
I have to be the only person in the country more motivated to support Romney because he strapped his dog to the roof of his car. I f**king hate dogs.

That whole post was nonsensical and awful, but yeah, that in particular did disgust me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 30, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9375;sa=showPosts

This creep is getting banned at some point, right?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: geesthacht82 on July 30, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
This creep is getting banned at some point, right?

Thank you for calling me a creep...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 30, 2012, 03:45:49 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156691.msg3368517#msg3368517
Yeah, this guy was sent as a challenge to me the very day after I accepted homosexuality as compatible with my faith. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on July 30, 2012, 04:26:07 PM
This creep is getting banned at some point, right?

Thank you for calling me a creep...

You basically hit on everyone in PAPOY. That's really, really creepy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on July 30, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156691.msg3368517#msg3368517
Yeah, this guy was sent as a challenge to me the very day after I accepted homosexuality as compatible with my faith. :P

First of all, congratulations on your change of heart. Second of all, I feel your pain, truly. It's time for this guy to stop posting.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on July 31, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.
He should have known his post belongs to a genre only allowed to the Left.

Shut up, Shua.

Troll is gone. Stop saying foolish things. Be happy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on July 31, 2012, 07:16:59 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on August 01, 2012, 07:31:23 PM
Is "First Lady" a constitutional term?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 02, 2012, 02:10:36 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 02, 2012, 02:51:38 PM
Is it even worthwhile to post krazen's statements in here? This thread is basically his posting history.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 02, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
Is it even worthwhile to post krazen's statements in here? This thread is basically his posting history.

Perhaps not, but I just... really... don't like him. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on August 02, 2012, 03:51:13 PM
Is it even worthwhile to post krazen's statements in here? This thread is basically his posting history.

Perhaps not, but I just... really... don't like him. :P

And the post you chose to showcase really was worthwhile = very short, to the point, and perfectly sums up what is wrong with him (and his ilk).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 02, 2012, 08:18:35 PM
On Obama being a socialist-


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 03, 2012, 12:49:09 AM
Context:

I think it's gonna be a blowout, folks. This poll is evidence of it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Smid on August 03, 2012, 12:59:43 AM

I interpretted it to be more of an "Oh, snap!" sulphur mine post... I thought he was making the point that calling Obama a socialist was just ludicrous, by giving an equally ridiculous response.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 03, 2012, 01:10:51 AM

I interpretted it to be more of an "Oh, snap!" sulphur mine post... I thought he was making the point that calling Obama a socialist was just ludicrous, by giving an equally ridiculous response.

Hopefully, but it's hard to tell with some people.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on August 03, 2012, 02:07:12 AM

I interpretted it to be more of an "Oh, snap!" sulphur mine post... I thought he was making the point that calling Obama a socialist was just ludicrous, by giving an equally ridiculous response.

I see you haven't encountered ModernBourbonDemocrat before.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 03, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
This entire thread.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156739.0

And just when everyone thought the 2012 board couldn't get any worse...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 03, 2012, 11:28:57 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156728.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 04, 2012, 09:30:10 AM

Yikes.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 04, 2012, 03:28:44 PM
I'd like to bring this post to your attention not only because it's horribly racist but because it attempts to argue a universal positive--seldom a good idea.

Once a neighborhood goes black/majority black it goes down hill. There is no exception.  That's why there is angst.   Most of the USA lives in places where they've never been exposed to large black populations, so it's easy for a lot of people, like from Kentucky for example, to say "oh these people.. so racist"...  Nope, facts aren't racist

It's unfortunate that this is the case, but when 77% of black babies are born into broken homes, the result is social decay


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on August 04, 2012, 06:34:08 PM

I interpretted it to be more of an "Oh, snap!" sulphur mine post... I thought he was making the point that calling Obama a socialist was just ludicrous, by giving an equally ridiculous response.

He's a libertarian, enough said.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 05, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
Whyte Supremacist Rain should be banned for that Krystalnacht post.

He apparently has been.
He should have known his post belongs to a genre only allowed to the Left.

Shut up, Shua.

Troll is gone. Stop saying foolish things. Be happy.
I'll stop saying foolish things when fools can understand anything else.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 06, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157009.msg3375347#msg3375347


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 06, 2012, 03:10:25 PM
Simply because it has Bolton, it is a good list.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on August 06, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
Winfield's current username is OBAMA=NIXON II. Should we even discuss this?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 06, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
All the people I really dislike are posting back here this week.  Man, this is strange.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 07, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
Context:

And...I was under the impression that anarchism fell under revolutionary socialism


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 07, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
Context:

And...I was under the impression that anarchism fell under revolutionary socialism

What's wrong with this?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on August 07, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
Context:

And...I was under the impression that anarchism fell under revolutionary socialism

What's wrong this this?
Check what's it in answer to...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 08, 2012, 02:04:33 AM
I'm a Democrat, but I like Gov. Fallin.  I think she has been wonderful for this state.  She has high approval ratings because she is a Christian in a largely Christian state.  She governs based largely on the Bible, not on popular opinion.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on August 08, 2012, 05:00:54 AM


Can't, link doesn't go anwyhere.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 08, 2012, 08:22:25 AM
My take:

If Romney gets in:

- Economic confidence will be restored.

- Most of ObamaCare will be repealed.

- Welfare will not become a way of life again.

- Tax reform will be the signature legislation of the Romney Administration.

- The Keystone Pipeline will get the green light

- We will not be second to China.

- The situation in Iran will be resolved, sowing the seeds of peace in the Middle East.

----------------------------------------------------

If Obama gets back in we'll have four more years of the past four, and worse:

- High unemployment, especially for America's youth including among the well-educated

- A continuation of the tense situation in Iran that is left to Obama's successor

- Allowing oil in Alberta to flow to China rather than Texas

- Unsustainable deficits that are left for Obama's successor

- A return to welfare as a way of life for millions

- Finishing second to China in more ways than just the Olympics


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 08, 2012, 10:27:44 AM
I'm a Democrat, but I like Gov. Fallin.  I think she has been wonderful for this state.  She has high approval ratings because she is a Christian in a largely Christian state.  She governs based largely on the Bible, not on popular opinion.

oh lord


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 08, 2012, 11:03:09 AM
My take:

If Romney gets in:

- Economic thuggery will be restored.
- Majority of ObamaCare will be repealed.
- Working poverty will  become the norm again.
- The Keystone Pipeline will get the green light on day one -- and rushed, it will become an ecological disaster in the making.
- We will offshore even more jobs to China. This must be America's century -- but only for America's economic elites.
- Shift of taxes from economic elites to people who struggle for everything they get will be the signature legislation of the Romney Administration.
- The situation in Iran will be transformed into a horrific war.

----------------------------------------------------

If Obama gets back in we'll have a replay of the past four years, and more:

- Falling unemployment, especially for young adults (whose well-educated are not immune).
- A continuation of the tense situation in Iran until the Iranian thug leadership begs for mercy at terms largely at American choosing.
- Not falling behind the rest of the world in living standards and social justice.
- Shrinking deficits that are left for Obama's successor to finish off.
- Allowing oil in Alberta to flow to China rather than into the Oglalla aquifer.
- More people off welfare because of an economy growing sustainably.

Fixed.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 08, 2012, 01:52:44 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 09, 2012, 06:58:02 AM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on August 09, 2012, 08:48:23 AM
This whole thread has gone down the rabbit hole of Nixon's Southern Strategy being an anti-racist campaign targeting moderates and that by 1980 the South was Martin Luther King's dream come true where Reagan promoting states' rights in Philadelphia, Miss. wasn't at all what some people claim it to be.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157054.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 09, 2012, 09:42:24 AM
Dear God...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 09, 2012, 09:57:38 AM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

Cut me some slack. I going from a skim read wikipedia article.

The "apart from their altering the constitution" bit is fun though. Sounds like "OK, they're crazy authoritarian power grabs, but apart from that they're great people". Kind of like Sanchez's comment on Enoch Powell "he was racist but a FF". Such sentences just sound wrong.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 09, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 09, 2012, 11:01:35 AM
This whole thread has gone down the rabbit hole of Nixon's Southern Strategy being an anti-racist campaign targeting moderates and that by 1980 the South was Martin Luther King's dream come true where Reagan promoting states' rights in Philadelphia, Miss. wasn't at all what some people claim it to be.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157054.0

Kind of underscores my point about how the title of this thread would be a good title for the entire 2012 Presidential forum.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 09, 2012, 11:35:24 AM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.

OK, so Fidesz is bad because they are wannabe dictators, and MSZP is just as bad because they are... left-wing (and not even that much so) ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on August 09, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
This whole thread has gone down the rabbit hole of Nixon's Southern Strategy being an anti-racist campaign targeting moderates and that by 1980 the South was Martin Luther King's dream come true where Reagan promoting states' rights in Philadelphia, Miss. wasn't at all what some people claim it to be.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157054.0

Kind of underscores my point about how the title of this thread would be a good title for the entire 2012 Presidential forum.

It's hackish (which I get into, too) but we have to preserve a distinction between hackery and outright delusion.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 09, 2012, 12:46:36 PM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.

OK, so Fidesz is bad because they are wannabe dictators, and MSZP is just as bad because they are... left-wing (and not even that much so) ?

Didn't say just as bad, but they are a socialist party so they're kinda bad (from my perspective).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 09, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.

OK, so Fidesz is bad because they are wannabe dictators, and MSZP is just as bad because they are... left-wing (and not even that much so) ?

Didn't say just as bad, but they are a socialist party so they're kinda bad (from my perspective).

The way you phrased things was ill-advised, at best. Considering the nature of Fidesz's actions, your mentioning them alongside with MSZP's guilt of being socialist (which, BTW, they really aren't; like most Eastern Europe former communist party they are pretty un-ideologic bureaucrats) sounds weird.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 09, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.

OK, so Fidesz is bad because they are wannabe dictators, and MSZP is just as bad because they are... left-wing (and not even that much so) ?

I mainly said Fidesz were FF's because of there role in the fight against communist evil in Hungary.

Oh, so you're one of those people...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on August 09, 2012, 08:23:17 PM

this is not absurd, but accurate.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on August 09, 2012, 09:42:23 PM

Strictly speaking, Obama is probably closer to being a fascist than a socialist. But that's like saying Timbuktu is closer to New York than to Los Angeles.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Nhoj on August 10, 2012, 12:09:28 AM
Fidesz (apart from their altering the constitution) look like Freedom Fighters
Yeah, this Rhodie person doesn't sound too good.

To be fair, Hungarian political parties are awful. There's Fidesz, who are awful, there's Jobbik, who are extremely awful, there's a couple Christian conservative parties (Christian Democratic People's Party and Hungarain Democratic Forum) who are awful, and there's the socialists (who are by default awful). Really the only thing approaching decent is a small green liberal group called Politics Can Be Different.

OK, so Fidesz is bad because they are wannabe dictators, and MSZP is just as bad because they are... left-wing (and not even that much so) ?

Didn't say just as bad, but they are a socialist party so they're kinda bad (from my perspective).

The way you phrased things was ill-advised, at best. Considering the nature of Fidesz's actions, your mentioning them alongside with MSZP's guilt of being socialist (which, BTW, they really aren't; like most Eastern Europe former communist party they are pretty un-ideologic bureaucrats) sounds weird.
MSZP is of course an awful party, I think largely unrelated to being socialists or un-ideologic bureaucrats. For the fact that they outright made up statistics about the state of the economy and admitted to it.[well I suppose admitting it could be a positive] and of course being fairly corrupt.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on August 10, 2012, 06:23:09 AM

Strictly speaking, Obama is probably closer to being a fascist than a socialist. But that's like saying Timbuktu is closer to New York than to Los Angeles.

The purpose and value of the comment was not really about Obama but rather as a reminder what sort of regime we live under.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 10, 2012, 07:42:42 AM

My brother is big-time Brony. The Brony Community, on the side, has other obsessions they usually incorporate into their fascinating fan community. (Thinksome of the Spiderman macros that include MLP) A big part of the community really loves the Portal franchise. Just look up "My Little Portal" on YouTube.

Watching a video of two bronies (well, a brony and a pegasister) playing Portal co-op mode peaked my interest in the game. It seems to be much more cerebral than most games of its class, and should be fun.

Do you all have any advice?

I do have some advice.  Don't admit the stuff you talked about in the preceding two paragraphs to the world at large.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 10, 2012, 09:30:25 AM

My brother is big-time Brony. The Brony Community, on the side, has other obsessions they usually incorporate into their fascinating fan community. (Thinksome of the Spiderman macros that include MLP) A big part of the community really loves the Portal franchise. Just look up "My Little Portal" on YouTube.

Watching a video of two bronies (well, a brony and a pegasister) playing Portal co-op mode peaked my interest in the game. It seems to be much more cerebral than most games of its class, and should be fun.

Do you all have any advice?

I do have some advice.  Don't admit the stuff you talked about in the preceding two paragraphs to the world at large.

This does not belong here. It belongs in the Good Post Gallery. Some of the best advice anyone could have given him on that topic.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 10, 2012, 02:32:26 PM
Colorado is the next Oregon.

And I think Ohio is the next Michigan.



And for what it's worth, SJoyceFla, --
First of all, by far not as much of the general population is "anti-brony" as you or The Mikado would like to think. Besides that, it's an undeniable fact that the brony community produces crossovers with any variety of other things. Thirdly, and most importantly, how the [inks] is watching a video of two bronies playing Portal supposed to be something to be ashamed of? Even if you accept the baseless prejudice of MLP in general as being something to be ashamed of, a video of two bronies playing Portal is not going to be substantially different in any way from a video of two non-bronies playing Portal.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on August 10, 2012, 04:42:30 PM
Look, I have strong opinions, I'm sure you have strong opinions.

For someone with strong opinions, you are oddly coy about them at times.

For instance, your signature:

Quote
"Freedom. And Justice. If you have those two, it covers everything. You must stick to those principles and have the courage of your convictions"

()


The quote is from Ian Smith and the picture is of Clem Tholet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clem_Tholet) a Rhodesian folk singer who wrote and sang a bunch of war songs.

Combining these quotes with your user name, I presume you're part of the Rhodesian diaspora, and part of the part of that diaspora that wishes that minority white rule had been successful.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 10, 2012, 06:58:42 PM
Both posts, but especially NY Jew doing his usual gimmick.

I find it extremely ironic that Jewish Americans tend to be liberal and vote 75-80% Democrat since liberals and the Democratic Party have started to embrace many seemingly anti-Semitic and anti-Israel elements in their party.  Since Jews also tend to be very fiscally conservative, I would think that Republicans would be a better fit for the Jewish community on both those issues.  Then again, I'm a Republican and very much philo-Semitic (a lover of Jews), so I sort of have a vested interest in saying that...
many American jews wouldn't care if every single Jew in Israel was killed.

but remember the exit polls were clearly wrong (and jews voted more for McCain) which is why this thread exists.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on August 11, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
So guys where's the evangelical Protestant on either ticket? Because I don't see one. Well folks its a Ron Paul write in.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on August 11, 2012, 01:41:51 PM
So guys where's the evangelical Protestant on either ticket? Because I don't see one. Well folks its a Ron Paul write in.

He escalates:

The GOP WILL NOT GET MY VOTE. YOU MUST HAVE AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN ON THE TICKET!!!!!!!Thanks for flipping us evangelicals off GOP


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 11, 2012, 02:01:00 PM
The obsession is getting weird.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Phony Moderate on August 11, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
The GOP WILL NOT GET MY VOTE. YOU MUST HAVE AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN ON THE TICKET!!!!!!!Thanks for flipping us evangelicals off GOP

Game changer.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 11, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
Romney is guaranteed to win Wisconsin now, and therefore should be able to win the other swing states and get over 270.  Its not exciting, but the numbers are on Romney's side.  He might even win Michigan as well.  Its over for Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 11, 2012, 08:07:19 PM
Welp. Another one.

Paul Ryan's dad and grandfather never lives past 56 years old. 

Paul is 42 now, so he should live long enough to run for president in 2020 at the age of 50.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on August 12, 2012, 09:25:37 AM
Conservatives have always been in favor of racial equality.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on August 12, 2012, 09:49:45 AM

Racism isn't something unique to conservatives.
Indeed it's not. Or rather, any definition of the Left that excluded all the people with any hateful rightwing trait would be a very small select band uncapable of winning any elections...

Nothing to do with the absurdity of the above post though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 12, 2012, 03:53:29 PM

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Strange things are about to happen in the polls -- and few to the benefit of the GOP Presidential ticket.




Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on August 12, 2012, 04:03:36 PM

Every few days some schmuck claims the Republicans were the leaders on civil rights and the natural home of equality and we have to go through the same revisionist discussion again.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 12, 2012, 04:42:09 PM
The only game worth buying is Starcraft 2. It's the only game I play.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 12, 2012, 06:18:08 PM
*facepalm*


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 12, 2012, 06:25:29 PM
He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Quote from: Mondale Logic (not actually real Mondale quote)
Do you know for a fact that there are no children and seniors without Medicare being molested in Paul Ryan's basement? Until you can disprove it, we must accept it as truth.



My submissions to the Deluge:

The most left-wing Southerner is probably still not very leftist.

That this was even controversial just shows what a horrible and un-American place Tennessee is.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on August 13, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
That pretty much doesn't happen nowadays, unless there's a live boy/dead girl type scandal.

Paul Ryan is the most thoroughly unvetted VP in modern history. He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Paul Ryan is the most thoroughly unvetted VP in modern history. He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Yup. Somebody just got iggied...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on August 13, 2012, 12:38:34 AM

Racism isn't something unique to conservatives.

That doesn't make Ben's statement any less of a joke.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 13, 2012, 01:09:57 AM
He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Quote from: Mondale Logic (not actually real Mondale quote)
Do you know for a fact that there are no children and seniors without Medicare being molested in Paul Ryan's basement? Until you can disprove it, we must accept it as truth.



My submissions to the Deluge:

The most left-wing Southerner is probably still not very leftist.

That this was even controversial just shows what a horrible and un-American place Tennessee is.

To be fair, that last one is kinda true.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 13, 2012, 01:19:52 AM
He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Quote from: Mondale Logic (not actually real Mondale quote)
Do you know for a fact that there are no children and seniors without Medicare being molested in Paul Ryan's basement? Until you can disprove it, we must accept it as truth.



My submissions to the Deluge:

The most left-wing Southerner is probably still not very leftist.

That this was even controversial just shows what a horrible and un-American place Tennessee is.

To be fair, that last one is kinda true.

Depends on the part of Tennessee.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 13, 2012, 07:06:28 AM
He's probably molesting children and seniors without Medicare in his basement as we speak.

Quote from: Mondale Logic (not actually real Mondale quote)
Do you know for a fact that there are no children and seniors without Medicare being molested in Paul Ryan's basement? Until you can disprove it, we must accept it as truth.



My submissions to the Deluge:

The most left-wing Southerner is probably still not very leftist.

That this was even controversial just shows what a horrible and un-American place Tennessee is.

To be fair, that last one is kinda true.

If he'd used something like 'intolerant' it wouldn't go here, but to call Tennessee un-American when Tennessee is one of the most MURICA states is just absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 13, 2012, 07:41:59 AM
He uses the specter of out of control deficits to sell a plan that would fund massive tax cuts for the rich through the deaths and impoverishment of millions of poor and elderly Americans.

^^^

Worthy of the guillotine along with the other greedy bastards who 'make' money at the expense of the people.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on August 13, 2012, 07:50:04 AM
He uses the specter of out of control deficits to sell a plan that would fund massive tax cuts for the rich through the deaths and impoverishment of millions of poor and elderly Americans.

^^^

Worthy of the guillotine along with the other greedy bastards who 'make' money at the expense of the people.

?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 13, 2012, 08:46:18 AM
You Fail History Forever.


I cannot support gay marriage as marriage has been the same for time immemorial.

King Solomon and his 700 wives disagree.

Yeah well he was just a bad apple.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on August 13, 2012, 09:52:28 AM
The Wives of Henry VIII disapprove your sense of morality, or at least that was what Catherine of Aragon told me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on August 13, 2012, 06:55:02 PM
If this is a realigning election, it could very well be the most important election since 1980.

At times I wonder if J.J. is a bot, but no bot would write a post this inane.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on August 13, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
The female vote is easily swayed with the "Boyfriend Factor" 

If a candidate can seem like a compassionate boyfriend, then females will swoon to vote for him, like Clinton, Reagan, GW Bush (over Gore and Kerry). 

Obama had a lot of appeal, but now he seems like the bad boyfriend who steals your money, and leaves you poorer and jobless.  He's like the absentee husband you want to divorce. 

Romney can be viewed as a reliable father figure who knows how to provide for his family.  Paul Ryan will appeal to women 40 and younger. 

The liberals will underestimate the Romney-Ryan ticket at their own peril.  Liberals can laugh now but they won't be laughing in November. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Not the original posts, but the edits, obviously.





Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 13, 2012, 07:13:26 PM
The female vote is easily swayed with the "Boyfriend Factor" 

If a candidate can seem like a compassionate boyfriend, then females will swoon to vote for him, like Clinton, Reagan, GW Bush (over Gore and Kerry). 

Obama had a lot of appeal, but now he seems like the bad boyfriend who steals your money, and leaves you poorer and jobless.  He's like the absentee husband you want to divorce. 

Romney can be viewed as a reliable father figure who knows how to provide for his family.  Paul Ryan will appeal to women 40 and younger. 

The liberals will underestimate the Romney-Ryan ticket at their own peril.  Liberals can laugh now but they won't be laughing in November. 

His post above is almost as ridiculous and insulting-
I have a funny feeling that Shirtless Paul Ryan will win a lot more female voters.  Maybe 5-8% more will vote for him.

But I also wonder if female turnout will just be less.  I know a lot of females that could care less about politics or current events. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 13, 2012, 08:24:42 PM

What did the original posts say?

Also, this thread is starting to suck massive d.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 14, 2012, 11:44:06 AM
Even if we lose the election and America kicks the can down the road, culminating in a post-American world within 10-20 years after we have our own version of the fall of the Soviet Union, at least we can say that we offered an alternative solution that could have prevented such a tragic occurrence. In other words, nobody will be able to blame Romney/Ryan for the fall of America. Of course, the same cannot be said of Obama/Biden and the like who care only about power in the here and now, the future be damned (that is the problem of somebody else, the way they see it...of course, it is too late by the time the end of this decade rolls around).

IF OBAMA WINS THE US WILL BREAK APART


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 14, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
!!!

Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.

I knew that would end up here.

Well when you're advocating for eliminating the justice system...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 14, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
!!!

Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.

I knew that would end up here.

Well when you're advocating for eliminating the justice system...

I never said that...

You say we should convict innocent people simply because of where they live. That's eliminating the justice system and turning it into, in the words of Jonathan Crane, "just a sentencing hearing".


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 14, 2012, 01:03:58 PM
!!!

Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.

I knew that would end up here.

Well when you're advocating for eliminating the justice system...

I never said that...

You say we should convict innocent people simply because of where they live. That's eliminating the justice system and turning it into, in the words of Jonathan Crane, "just a sentencing hearing".

I was merely talking about wrongly convicted people, not the whole bloody ghetto.

Why not? They're in an unpleasant seedy place, so they're probably criminals.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 14, 2012, 01:51:53 PM
!!!

Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.

I knew that would end up here.

Well when you're advocating for eliminating the justice system...

I never said that...

You say we should convict innocent people simply because of where they live. That's eliminating the justice system and turning it into, in the words of Jonathan Crane, "just a sentencing hearing".

I was merely talking about wrongly convicted people, not the whole bloody ghetto.

Why not? They're in an unpleasant seedy place, so they're probably criminals.

Oh dear, we're going to be in for a long haul..........sigh.
Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.
Do you read your own posts?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 14, 2012, 01:57:52 PM

Someone seems a bit bitter...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 14, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
Europe wants to see America dragged down to its level.

The Democrats' last hope at this point is probably somehow depressing Republican turnout. They'll probably sink so low that they'll turn to bigotry in the form of anti-Mormonism and anti-Catholicism. We all know that a number of the Democrats' campaign workers and volunteers are raging atheists, closeted or otherwise, so it could get ugly with regards to the religious attacks. It may be a couple months off, but we will eventually see one last desperate attempt to drag everybody down into a pointless culture war battle in order to distract folks from the Obama Economy. They will do anything to win, and that will eventually lead to sinking to the lowest of lows due to the fact the Obama economy is absolutely killing the hopes and dreams of millions of Americans (most notably among the Obama youth brigade of 2008). They have replaced hope and change with fear and hate.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 14, 2012, 09:09:47 PM
Social Security survivor benefits? How many gay relationships last through till old age? I am not saying that to be mean-spirited. Let's be realistic here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 14, 2012, 11:02:04 PM
After the "excitement" and "disillusionment" of Obama has worn off.  As we saw in 2010 elections, many voters just want a competent, stabile, level-headed person as president.  They don't want someone who will radically grow government, and increase taxes.  They just want a boring calm leader like Romney.

The Paul ryan budget is certainly frightening to a lot of liberals and Liberal Reporters but Paul Ryan will tone it down and adopt Romney's more reasonable tax plans as the official platform, which would prevent Seniors from going back to Obama (and the death panels). 

Either way, seniors are screwed under Obama or Paul Ryan.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on August 14, 2012, 11:13:25 PM
Haha, no. Paul Ryan's ideas are rather tame and mainstream, and you can't get at him by attacking Ayn Rand, as most people haven't heard of her and most of the ones who have are fans.


In the context of American politics, something supported by essentially the entirety of the Republican Party is mainstream even if you disagree with it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 14, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
Karl Marx is the antithesis of Adam Smith, whose ideas are the foundation of America. Consequently, adherence to Marx is about as anti-American as you can get.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on August 14, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
Haha, no. Paul Ryan's ideas are rather tame and mainstream, and you can't get at him by attacking Ayn Rand, as most people haven't heard of her and most of the ones who have are fans.


In the context of American politics, something supported by essentially the entirety of the Republican Party is mainstream even if you disagree with it.

You do realize that polls have shown 54% of CONSERVATIVES opposed to Ryan's plans for Medicare, right? Also, your comment suggests you think the Republican Party is mainstream...LOL

Ryan's most recent budget plan, that of 2012, was co-sponsored by Democratic Senator and ex-aide to Wayne Morse Ron Wyden, which seems to suggest it's pretty bipartisan; Wyden isn't exactly a Blue Dog. And, considering 1/2 the electorate votes for it, the Republican Party is practically the definition of mainstream. (The Democrats are too).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on August 14, 2012, 11:54:14 PM

...and now we're starting to take that massive d somewhere where it's even more unpleasant...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 15, 2012, 12:04:52 AM
milhouse's worst one yet :D

Well George W Bush won Virginia for 2 terms, so some people in NoVa didn't like classic liberals Gore and Kerry.  I just think the Love-fest for Obama is waining.  While NoVa is more politically intune than the rest of the country, there are many people that work for defense contractors, and not Liberal congressmen or organizations.  You might say more liberals live in DC, and therefore their votes don't count.  There are a lot of voters who care more about the Economy than liberal social issues, and those are the people that will switch to Romney.  Also, Paul Ryan's youth will be very appealing to middle age voters.  Biden is looking very old these days, his hair plugs are gone and he's almost 70 now.  There's a lot of shine missing from the Obama-Biden ticket.  People want an excuse to like and vote for Romney-Ryan, and are disillusioned with Obama's successes or lackluster successes.  Paul Ryan can be the next Media Rock Star, with his Catholic Choir Boy good looks and his earnest demeanor.  He'll soften his medicare rhetoric and become the All-American small town kid voters will fall in love with.  Shirtless Obama became a sex symbol and in 2012, shirtless Paul Ryan will become a sex symbol. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 15, 2012, 12:18:18 AM
GODDAMN THIS THREAD FACKING SUCKS


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 15, 2012, 02:57:38 AM
True if you squint to the same degree that it's true that the key to Republican victories is usually depressed turnout among Democratic groups. The very poor always have depressed turnout.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 15, 2012, 03:01:18 AM
The hackish overtone of the post is what landed it here (then again, when don't his posts have a hackish overtone to them?)  And the idea that Democrats are somehow 'anti-Catholic' (especially with, you know, a Catholic on the Democratic ticket) is far-fetched, to say the least.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 15, 2012, 07:24:15 AM
Haha, no. Paul Ryan's ideas are rather tame and mainstream, and you can't get at him by attacking Ayn Rand, as most people haven't heard of her and most of the ones who have are fans.


In the context of American politics, something supported by essentially the entirety of the Republican Party is mainstream even if you disagree with it.

You do realize that polls have shown 54% of CONSERVATIVES opposed to Ryan's plans for Medicare, right? Also, your comment suggests you think the Republican Party is mainstream...LOL

Thank you for saving me the trouble by posting directly here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RI on August 15, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
It does, which is why I believe that the true nature of Satan's right hand man is revealed before election day.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 15, 2012, 10:48:20 AM
Haha, no. Paul Ryan's ideas are rather tame and mainstream, and you can't get at him by attacking Ayn Rand, as most people haven't heard of her and most of the ones who have are fans.


In the context of American politics, something supported by essentially the entirety of the Republican Party is mainstream even if you disagree with it.

You do realize that polls have shown 54% of CONSERVATIVES opposed to Ryan's plans for Medicare, right? Also, your comment suggests you think the Republican Party is mainstream...LOL

Thank you for saving me the trouble by posting directly here.

Technically the modern Party officials are rather extreme.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 15, 2012, 10:53:15 AM
Haha, no. Paul Ryan's ideas are rather tame and mainstream, and you can't get at him by attacking Ayn Rand, as most people haven't heard of her and most of the ones who have are fans.


In the context of American politics, something supported by essentially the entirety of the Republican Party is mainstream even if you disagree with it.

You do realize that polls have shown 54% of CONSERVATIVES opposed to Ryan's plans for Medicare, right? Also, your comment suggests you think the Republican Party is mainstream...LOL

Thank you for saving me the trouble by posting directly here.

Technically the modern Party officials are rather extreme.

They are, but they're still 'mainstream'.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 15, 2012, 10:58:47 AM
many American jews wouldn't care if every single Jew in Israel was killed.

but remember the exit polls were clearly wrong (and jews voted more for McCain) which is why this thread exists.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 15, 2012, 05:38:58 PM
Ryan has a new secret crush.

Obama's no longer the cool guy on the block. 

Paul Ryan is the new young cool, handsome, attractive, rock star politician. 

Will the media fawn over Paul Ryan just like they did over Obama in 2008? 

Will Paul Ryan's sculpted abs and biceps win covers of People Magazine? 

Will there be Ryan-girls cheering for him at campaign stops?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 16, 2012, 09:19:13 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 17, 2012, 01:18:28 AM
The hackish overtone of the post is what landed it here (then again, when don't his posts have a hackish overtone to them?)  And the idea that Democrats are somehow 'anti-Catholic' (especially with, you know, a Catholic on the Democratic ticket) is far-fetched, to say the least.

My post wasn't meant to imply agreement with the point being made.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 17, 2012, 11:53:48 AM
Context:
Aaah. Thought so. Obama is too conservative for you.

Thanks for playing. :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 17, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
The hackish overtone of the post is what landed it here (then again, when don't his posts have a hackish overtone to them?)  And the idea that Democrats are somehow 'anti-Catholic' (especially with, you know, a Catholic on the Democratic ticket) is far-fetched, to say the least.

My post wasn't meant to imply agreement with the point being made.

I know.  That was actually meant to be a reply more so to Rhodie.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on August 17, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 17, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 17, 2012, 02:28:57 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 17, 2012, 03:12:09 PM
The president has been overwhelmingly clear: He dislikes entrepreneurship and free markets, and believes Big Government should take from successful people and give to unsuccessful people rather than having an environment that produces growth for everybody.

Is quoting politico here even worth it?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on August 17, 2012, 07:50:13 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 17, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.
I knew it was him, and I considered saying something, but decided against it. I guess I was right :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 17, 2012, 07:57:18 PM
Wait... Politico is Rhodie!?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 17, 2012, 08:03:28 PM

No, Tricky Dick or whatever his name was.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 17, 2012, 08:05:18 PM

Oh, damn.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on August 17, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and an increasing number of them are all you.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 17, 2012, 10:01:24 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.

God damn it. My sock perception skills are clearly not great.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 17, 2012, 10:54:32 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.
I knew it was him, and I considered saying something, but decided against it. I guess I was right :P

Is there a way we could let all the trolls in but confine their posting privilege to a specific area, one that's already barren and devoid of intelligent life where their presence wouldn't be notable, like, say, the 2012 board? A sort of quarantine zone?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Politico on August 18, 2012, 03:41:16 AM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.
I knew it was him, and I considered saying something, but decided against it. I guess I was right :P

Is there a way we could let all the trolls in but confine their posting privilege to a specific area, one that's already barren and devoid of intelligent life where their presence wouldn't be notable, like, say, the 2012 board? A sort of quarantine zone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHU6K47qgc8


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on August 18, 2012, 03:49:34 AM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.

God damn it. My sock perception skills are clearly not great.
That one stank from a mile away. (But I didn't bother thinking about who it might be.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 18, 2012, 04:26:57 AM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Be prepared to say goodbye to RhodieIII, Nathan.

God damn it. My sock perception skills are clearly not great.
That one stank from a mile away. (But I didn't bother thinking about who it might be.)

In my defense, I had a lot going on in the 3-4 hour this afternoon.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on August 18, 2012, 05:10:13 PM
What's absurd about this is not the post itself, but that the thread it is in went so far off topic from what it was about originally to yield this post:

I've spent time in Quebec City/the St Lawrence Estuary and in parts of the Maritimes, and while I personally thought that the former was nicer to visit I'd probably recommend sounding the latter for an Anglophone.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on August 18, 2012, 05:44:58 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Hey, Nathan, why don't we both be trolls for a week, and show the kids how to do it properly, meaning you rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points? The troll skill level around here these days is really pathetically low. It's an embarrassment!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on August 18, 2012, 06:44:02 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Hey, Nathan, why don't we both be trolls for a week, and show the kids how to do it properly, meaning you rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points? The troll skill level around here these days is really pathetically low. It's an embarrassment!

You haven't already been doing that for the last few months? :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on August 18, 2012, 11:26:15 PM
Most foreigners love seeing America struggle, so naturally they love Obama and want the next four years to be like the past four years.

I'm going to start interacting with him as if he were the Scarlet Pimpernel.

Are there a lot of trolls on this forum?

Yes, and Politico is one of our most notorious ones. The 2012 board is pretty much open season for even good posters to be trolls, though. Welcome to the forum!

Hey, Nathan, why don't we both be trolls for a week, and show the kids how to do it properly, meaning you rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points? The troll skill level around here these days is really pathetically low. It's an embarrassment!

Way ahead of you. I'm ashamed to be associated with some of these incompetents.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on August 19, 2012, 12:42:36 AM
This thread

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157717.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157717.0)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on August 19, 2012, 01:12:16 AM
Hey, Nathan, why don't we both be trolls for a week, and show the kids how to do it properly, meaning you rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points? The troll skill level around here these days is really pathetically low. It's an embarrassment!

In terms of "rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points," you're all novices compared to Politico.  He is truly a master of the craft. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 19, 2012, 01:19:28 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=157712.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Politico on August 19, 2012, 03:15:33 AM
Hey, Nathan, why don't we both be trolls for a week, and show the kids how to do it properly, meaning you rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points? The troll skill level around here these days is really pathetically low. It's an embarrassment!

In terms of "rile up the opposition, but make it hard for the mods to hand out death points," you're all novices compared to Politico.  He is truly a master of the craft. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LazUZz3K6IY


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on August 19, 2012, 09:09:07 AM
Politicization of employment - and patronage - are essential to a good economy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on August 20, 2012, 07:54:14 AM
There's a big difference between a dissident fleeing an oppressive country and this terrorist.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on August 21, 2012, 07:57:47 PM
I see so far that many of our pro-abortion members openly discuss and even cheer on this hypothetical action, which makes them more evil than I even expected.

()

Pictured: pro-abortion member; more evil than you even expected!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 21, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
Getting the winner correct doesn't mean it's not a trash poll.

click for context

what

just what

is that a double negative or


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 21, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
I hate these shows. They try and make drug users and drug dealers as the protagonists, when infact, they're the antagonists.

A husband dies so a woman starts a drug business? A guy is ill so he starts selling meth?

Ridiculous. Drug users are the enemy. Period. If I had my way, they would vanish. J. Edgar style.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 22, 2012, 05:33:16 PM
Remember the Vitamin C song, "Graduation (Friends Forever)" from the year 2000? I cannot work up the intrepidity to actually ever listen to the song, as I will begin falling into a depressed stupor. When it hear it playing on the radio, I run away. It takes me back to the portentous days of the year that was the sunset of my childhood.

()

"The Bush Era is about to begin!"


Now, those days make me think about the portentous decade known as the 2000s, which will be thoroughly and scrupulously covered in another thread. In this decade known as the "Decade of Dubya", I made great new friends including some on this very message board. Those days are gone forever, I should just let them go, but for some reason I still find myself getting misty when I think of the memorable events and discussions I had with these friends. We discussed the issues of the day as well, from Hurricane Katrina to Gay Marriage and the liberal dingbat media onslaught of glorifying marriage as something other than one man and one woman.

()

Liberal media bias, circa 2006

Today, I find myself again in heated discussions but often told I am in the minority of Americans. This is false, of course. I have also turned down dates with women who share opposing viewpoints due to the political discord in our relationships. at this age I want to be going out with my friends and having "fun" in life before settling down, which is essentially what they would be doing with you.

My dating experiences are sometimes hard to describe but can be in two simple paragraphs.

#1. I have very little in common with people my own age. I have friends. Some are co-workers who I might grab a beer with down the road after work. Others are people with the same interests as me whom I might see for a week once a year or so on a vacation. Other than that if you told me to call someone to try and hang out tonight, I'd come up empty. I don't really have friends but I am not anti-social.

()

"I have friends."

#2. I have hobbies. I play guitar, I enjoy going fishing, I love to travel. I'll go to dinner, then play a little at a casino, have some drinks, and I love vacationing in Florida, Key West, Vegas, ect. However, most of the time when I am not working, I just enjoy kicking back, watching movies, relaxing. Contrast this with girls my age who party non-stop, seem to have 1,000 friends and a million photos on Facebook and it seems like her life is so big that even if I did get a date with her, I'd be boring by comparison.

()

But there are alternatives. I must now eat my dinner of pizza. I shall return.

TO BE CONTINUED...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 22, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
I guess I'm confused as to why the Republican Party would win on the "issues."

If you haven't observed by now that the American electorate is mostly masochistic, self-destructive, and wholly lacking in class consciousness, I'm not sure anyone can help you.

Class consciousness? This is not 1932 anymore.

What are you implying with this statement?

That he can read a calendar?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Supersonic on August 22, 2012, 06:39:34 PM
Christie will prob come on stage with a Big Mac.

I mean, seriously now.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 22, 2012, 07:02:16 PM

This post was phenomenal.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on August 22, 2012, 08:27:39 PM
bash me all you want for this but I don't see why this is so bad. Less middle class people equals less reactionary politics.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 22, 2012, 09:05:46 PM
Strange, considering that in the Bible, there exist pages of teachings condemning homosexuality. But, then again this is a protestant church, and the Bible of the Protestant Churches is the Communist Manifesto.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 23, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
as if I'm incapable of fallibility?  there's a double standard, I don't care to flesh it out here, but it's so easy for you, you Obama voters, and everyone else in between... there's such a sence of self-worship that comes with the flag!  and yet we on the real left, the left-of-liberal, express one opinion, say one silly thing, and what do you do?  no surprise, you take it as evidence of your own righteousness.  all I say is, how easy it is to convince yourself your righteousness when every media stream, every College Board, every 101 professor, every parent at a Memorial Day parade will assent, will commend you for your feigned courage.


there's a sad fact for you sad fckers.  there is another life!  and it's understood!  it's understood by men like William Kuntsler, Ramsay Clark, Aaron Burr if we go back far enough.  they understood the flip side of this fcking dumb ass coin that you worship.  oh man, you treat me like a joke, but there's a light here, brilliant people have seen it.  if you want to see that light, come to me, come to us!  and if you don't, don't!  don't convince yourselves of some superiority, all you'll be left with is a moment, at age 50, when you stare at the wall, thinking, well, what if the road had forked in Tweed's direction...?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 24, 2012, 08:41:41 AM
as if I'm incapable of fallibility?  there's a double standard, I don't care to flesh it out here, but it's so easy for you, you Obama voters, and everyone else in between... there's such a sence of self-worship that comes with the flag!  and yet we on the real left, the left-of-liberal, express one opinion, say one silly thing, and what do you do?  no surprise, you take it as evidence of your own righteousness.  all I say is, how easy it is to convince yourself your righteousness when every media stream, every College Board, every 101 professor, every parent at a Memorial Day parade will assent, will commend you for your feigned courage.


there's a sad fact for you sad fckers.  there is another life!  and it's understood!  it's understood by men like William Kuntsler, Ramsay Clark, Aaron Burr if we go back far enough.  they understood the flip side of this fcking dumb ass coin that you worship.  oh man, you treat me like a joke, but there's a light here, brilliant people have seen it.  if you want to see that light, come to me, come to us!  and if you don't, don't!  don't convince yourselves of some superiority, all you'll be left with is a moment, at age 50, when you stare at the wall, thinking, well, what if the road had forked in Tweed's direction...?

this quote has never been more fitting:

or maybe he's just a melodramatic, attention-whoring, post-padding 15-yr-old.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on August 24, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
Most people are actually not that fixated on sex.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 24, 2012, 10:57:23 AM
Given that I'm a gayer and stridently anti-clerical I think the Nazi's would have repulsed me.

The statement might be true because of the first bit but the bold part is rather absurd considering how many Nazis that also applied to (including Hitler).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on August 24, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
Given that I'm a gayer and stridently anti-clerical I think the Nazi's would have repulsed me.

The statement might be true because of the first bit but the bold part is rather absurd considering how many Nazis that also applied to (including Hitler).
That is a vile lie closely related to the similar ones American protonazis peddle about Hitler and Guns and especially Hitler and Abortion. He wasn't a hyper-pious Catholic Fascist a la Franco but more a standard-issue tribal/subnational identity Catholic, and on the edges of his party (especially in the early SS) some strange ideas about reviving Nordic religion played a role, but that's about it. And despite some dissent (and more whoppingly, despite the Nazis' being actually headed by a Catholic), the relationship between Evangelical Lutheranism in Germany and Nazism is best described by the word "osmosis".


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Supersonic on August 24, 2012, 05:50:45 PM

C'mon now..


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 24, 2012, 06:08:31 PM

Oh yeah, Link's notorious for being a bastard.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on August 24, 2012, 07:18:15 PM
No, because Cubans tend to dispise Socialist policies


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Redalgo on August 25, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
The guy is an idiot.  Whatever happens to him he deserves it and the Darwin award.  If you can't keep your mouth shut don't join the Navy SEALs.  I hope the US government gives him zero protection.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on August 25, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
I think Tim Tebow would be a good candidate if he were old enough.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 26, 2012, 10:10:51 AM
Space Exploration: Scrap all further space exploration.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Hash on August 26, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
Environmental concerns should not be taken seriously.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on August 26, 2012, 10:27:52 AM
This thread is terrible. People are just posting any and everything they instantly disagreed with. Tebow probably would make a fantastic candidate in the age of PR politics and space exploration is hardly a universally acceptable investment.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on August 26, 2012, 12:24:49 PM
It tends to suck away debate as well. Why deal with a point when you can just quote it into the 'lolurstupid' bin?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on August 26, 2012, 01:10:13 PM
This isn't quite the only position on that particular issue that wouldn't qualify for inclusion, but it's close. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 26, 2012, 01:35:37 PM
This isn't quite the only position on that particular issue that wouldn't qualify for inclusion, but it's close. :P

Newt Gingrich's comes to mind.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 30, 2012, 09:09:24 AM
This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: J. J. on August 30, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.

If Obama loses, or wins with an improving economy, yes. 

Of course, the idea that the economy is improving is probably the funniest thing I've ever posted.  :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 30, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
Yes, J.J. it would be pretty funny and unexpected if you posted a fact.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on August 30, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.

Ironically, I think of this post as absurd for the exact opposite reason Lief does.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 02, 2012, 02:41:36 PM
Georgia - though at this point, I'm thinking Texas might even end up being close.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on September 03, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
States Rights. He stuck up for them, but he exploited racism to do it. He is an HP, but I would still have looked at him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on September 03, 2012, 12:31:51 AM
Why does this thread exist?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on September 03, 2012, 12:54:52 AM

Safety valve.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 03, 2012, 01:47:07 AM
Despite the complaints from some people, before this thread and during the brief period when it was locked, any time someone made a particularly absurd, ignorant or bad post, it would either get posted in the Comedy Goldmine instead (resulting in other complaints) or someone would make a poll about that post saying something like "Is this one of the stupidest things you've ever read on the forum?" and a lot more bickering and flooding would result. The most notable example I can remember is when Harry made a poll just to point out that South Park Conservative claimed that oil is not a fossil fuel.

So it serves a purpose. Something even Inks seemed to have learned due to his unlocking of it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on September 03, 2012, 01:50:11 AM
It's to take out pent up stress, anger and disagreement of another member that one doesn't agree with. It's fun to read unless your user handle pops up regularly.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on September 03, 2012, 01:58:22 AM
This has to top the list....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=1117;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 03, 2012, 08:14:19 AM
This has to top the list....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=1117;sa=showPosts

we have a winner


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 03, 2012, 08:39:38 AM
Despite the complaints from some people, before this thread and during the brief period when it was locked, any time someone made a particularly absurd, ignorant or bad post, it would either get posted in the Comedy Goldmine instead (resulting in other complaints) or someone would make a poll about that post saying something like "Is this one of the stupidest things you've ever read on the forum?" and a lot more bickering and flooding would result. The most notable example I can remember is when Harry made a poll just to point out that South Park Conservative claimed that oil is not a fossil fuel.

So it serves a purpose. Something even Inks seemed to have learned due to his unlocking of it.

QFT


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 04, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=6339;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Supersonic on September 05, 2012, 09:35:47 AM

your trolling its a GOP firm.

i think you need to turn your computer of and sign up to a physics course and learn about the universe.

you could also get a passport and travel abit and see how other countries do things.

every mind is a parachute. you need to open your mind, see through different vision and remove the bigotry and hate that curses your soul.


Oh dear.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 05, 2012, 10:52:03 AM

your trolling its a GOP firm.

i think you need to turn your computer of and sign up to a physics course and learn about the universe.

you could also get a passport and travel abit and see how other countries do things.

every mind is a parachute. you need to open your mind, see through different vision and remove the bigotry and hate that curses your soul.


Oh dear.

If it's not already there it belongs in the sulfur mine thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 06, 2012, 01:55:01 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=7903;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 06, 2012, 02:33:19 PM
Not one false claim in Bill Clinton's speech last night: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/no-false-claims-in-clinton-s-dnc-speech-c2Ha7CgMRqm9CIwOZMH2mA.html?cmpid=otbrn.video

Compare that to Paul Ryan's speech of lies last week.
I have not seen Ryan's speech yet. I fear I might have a cerebrovascular accident having to listen to all those lies.
Umm, Nobody and I repeat NOBODY has found a lie in Ryan's speech.  Some supposed "fact checkers" (magically coordinated with dnc talking points) asserted that a few things were misleading.  Those claims are/were incredibly weak and poorly made.  How you guys go from 'a few weak claims of "misleading" ' to "all those Lies" is entertaining.  I mean it's funny... kind of like a clown, it amuses me. 

Bwuh?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 06, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
Not one false claim in Bill Clinton's speech last night: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/no-false-claims-in-clinton-s-dnc-speech-c2Ha7CgMRqm9CIwOZMH2mA.html?cmpid=otbrn.video

Compare that to Paul Ryan's speech of lies last week.
I have not seen Ryan's speech yet. I fear I might have a cerebrovascular accident having to listen to all those lies.
Umm, Nobody and I repeat NOBODY has found a lie in Ryan's speech.  Some supposed "fact checkers" (magically coordinated with dnc talking points) asserted that a few things were misleading.  Those claims are/were incredibly weak and poorly made.  How you guys go from 'a few weak claims of "misleading" ' to "all those Lies" is entertaining.  I mean it's funny... kind of like a clown, it amuses me. 

Bwuh?

It has to be copious amounts of alcohol driving him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
AmericanNation is secretly Joe Pesci.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on September 06, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
watching the Left wing (full of anti semites) of the Democratic party over the past few years is like watching in slow motion the Nazi's taking over Germany.

the scary part is the young left wingers drones are even more left wing and anti semetic than the many of the "elites" (the OWS are similar to the Hitler Youth on so many levels)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 07, 2012, 12:16:47 AM
I should stop watching this thread. Any time I read posts like the above, I feel like thousands of my brain cells have just died.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Phony Moderate on September 07, 2012, 07:46:59 AM
Yeah, this guy is a self-parody.

for the Republicans
1. Antonio Villaraigosa - "in the opinion of the.......  let me do that again all those delegates in favor say I all those delegates oppose say no"
2. all the responses to it
3. all the responses to it
4.all the responses to it
5. all the responses to it


that's all that will be remembered by the time of the election.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 07, 2012, 10:39:48 AM
and than there's this
http://www.examiner.com/article/liberals-on-twitter-curse-archbishop-dolan-for-pro-life-prayer-at-dnc-convention

Democrats curse the American Pope.  Nice job guys.

LOL. There's an American Pope now.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 07, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
He is not gonna win. the only reason why people support him because hes white and they want the black man out.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 07, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
He is not gonna win. the only reason why people support him because hes white and they want the black man out.

Yeah that's wrong


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on September 07, 2012, 06:29:07 PM
He is not gonna win. the only reason why people support him because hes white and they want the black man out.

Yeah that's wrong
Bane and Mondale80 are both in the same group of buffoons.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on September 08, 2012, 01:16:47 AM
and than there's this
http://www.examiner.com/article/liberals-on-twitter-curse-archbishop-dolan-for-pro-life-prayer-at-dnc-convention

Democrats curse the American Pope.  Nice job guys.

LOL. There's an American Pope now.

What's so absurd here?  I can easily see using "pope" in the figurative sense rather than the literal one, there's no reason to think he was being literal, and Dolan is the most senior member of the American Catholic clergy. If anyone is going to be called the American pope, it's Dolan.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 08, 2012, 08:51:01 AM
He is not gonna win. the only reason why people support him because hes white and they want the black man out.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 08, 2012, 09:52:57 AM
He is not gonna win. the only reason why people support him because hes white and they want the black man out.

Already been posted.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 08, 2012, 02:06:22 PM
I should stop watching this thread. Any time I read posts like the above, I feel like thousands of my brain cells have just died.

You should be brain dead, then.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 08, 2012, 09:35:27 PM
Even by NY Jew standards this is...

For whatever reason the GOP is mostly white in an America that is increasingly less so. And that's a huge problem for them. So they have to find minorities to fight the perception that they are anti-minority. But, again, there aren'tthat many minority GOPers to choose from. So we get a strong de facto affirmative action policy within the GOP. Does anybody really think that Michael Steele or Herman Cain would have had their 15 minutes of fame otherwise? It's super hilarious within the context of an otherwise fiercely conservative party.
Alan West would be popular no matter what his color is.

He is arguably the most popular person by the base of the party.

but because the GOP is the stupidest party politically (the dems might not know math but they know politics) the elite hate him and tried to gerrymander him out.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 10, 2012, 11:23:15 AM
...though certain of his beliefs, such as his support for animal rights... are problematic.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on September 10, 2012, 11:24:19 AM
...though certain of his beliefs, such as his support for animal rights... are problematic.

as I believe I said in IRC, Vosem appears so absurd because he explicitly states what are meant only to be the implicit tenets of neoliberal ideology.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on September 10, 2012, 08:20:02 PM
Politics aside, anyone who thinks non-human animals should receive the same rights as humans deserve to have all of their views on everything disregarded.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on September 10, 2012, 08:37:45 PM
Politics aside, anyone who thinks non-human animals should receive the same rights as humans deserve to have all of their views on everything disregarded.

A: In what way are humans not animals?

B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on September 10, 2012, 08:44:55 PM
Politics aside, anyone who thinks non-human animals should receive the same rights as humans deserve to have all of their views on everything disregarded.

A: In what way are humans not animals?

B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?

A: See bolding.
B: You're not allowed to cut my bike in half with a chainsaw either.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on September 10, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
Politics aside, anyone who thinks non-human animals should receive the same rights as humans deserve to have all of their views on everything disregarded.

A: In what way are humans not animals?

B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?

A. Humans are animals, but the difference from other animals is what we call 'sapience'; which is that humans have come up with logical thinking, language, et cetera and other species haven't. Why do we ask, are we alone? After all, there are so many other species on the planet. But we ask if we are the only sapient species.

B. Yes. But that doesn't mean my cat deserves the right to vote, or to choose where to live, for instance. Also, what koenkai said.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on September 10, 2012, 10:16:01 PM
Okay, an animal is clearly also not really comparable to a bicycle, but the point is that there's a continuum here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 10, 2012, 10:36:56 PM
B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?

I'm sorry to say that, but that's a pretty ridiculous strawman.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on September 11, 2012, 09:12:31 AM
Politics aside, anyone who thinks non-human animals should receive the same rights as humans deserve to have all of their views on everything disregarded.

A: In what way are humans not animals?

B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?

A: See bolding.
B: You're not allowed to cut my bike in half with a chainsaw either.

the sh**t you guys come up with cracks me the fck up.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 11, 2012, 03:27:09 PM

Well, that depends on how polling stands on election day.
As of now, I certainly wouldn't call this "underperforming."

It certainly is with the current map:

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The only issue being that's not the current map.

Well yes, I know that I'm being a little optimistic for the GOP, but the current polling certainly wouldn't exclude a map in this ballpark.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on September 11, 2012, 06:41:48 PM
B: If you had a pet cat, and I killed it with a chainsaw, would you be sad?

I'm sorry to say that, but that's a pretty ridiculous strawman.

*is penitent*

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Anyway, how do you know other animals aren't sapient? Can they not think? Can they not feel pain?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on September 11, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
We just severed diplomatic relations with Iran.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/07/pol-baird-canada-iran-embassy.html

America should have done this. Can we switch your Harper for our Obama?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 11, 2012, 07:52:59 PM
We just severed diplomatic relations with Iran.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/07/pol-baird-canada-iran-embassy.html

America should have done this. Can we switch your Harper for our Obama?

I think you and most of our Canadian posters would be fine with the deal, am I right ? ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on September 11, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
We just severed diplomatic relations with Iran.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/07/pol-baird-canada-iran-embassy.html

America should have done this. Can we switch your Harper for our Obama?

I think you and most of our Canadian posters would be fine with the deal, am I right ? ;)

Yeah, but the absurd part of that statement has nothing to do with that. It's the first sentence. The US broke diplomatic relations with Iran over 30 years ago.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on September 12, 2012, 12:29:57 AM
I guess since I have family/heritage in WV, I found this a bit offensive, if not outright misinformed:

What did Tomblin do to become so popular after his narrow win last year? Last I checked, everyone in West Virginia is still living in a coal mine with no clean water.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 12, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
What I find most amazing is clicking that link and finding out that...Dave Leip actually posted a poll.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on September 12, 2012, 02:41:27 AM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 12, 2012, 05:21:00 AM
oy vey


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on September 12, 2012, 06:55:53 AM
I guess since I have family/heritage in WV, I found this a bit offensive, if not outright misinformed:

What did Tomblin do to become so popular after his narrow win last year? Last I checked, everyone in West Virginia is still living in a coal mine with no clean water.

Well, you're in Louisiana, so not much room to talk eh?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 12, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
Within a few posts of each other:

It's way too early to say that. If the situation is like this on October 11, than it will be different.

Obama will probably have a 15-point lead by then, so yes it's too early to tell how big Obama's mandate will be.
...This looks like 1980, with Romney as Reagan.  Given the embassy news and how it perfectly highlights BOs failed foreign policy (which was flying under the radar until now) Romney will start pulling ahead shortly and stay there.     


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 12, 2012, 09:53:13 AM
I don't think this election is much going to end up like 1980, but this Lybia situation sure isn't good for President Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 12, 2012, 11:01:08 AM

That map is outdated anyway, with it now legal in Iowa and performed in New York as well as New Hampshire and Vermont.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 12, 2012, 11:06:21 AM
Naso's sig deserves an entry here too:

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 12, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
I don't even get what that top image is supposed to be. Obama's America means black people?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Insula Dei on September 12, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Also, would Naso have Teen Moms abort their babies?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 12, 2012, 11:50:22 AM
I'd like a once sentence explanation of each image from Naso......just one, Mike. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 12, 2012, 12:23:27 PM

And the District of Columbia.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 12, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
I'd like a once sentence explanation of each image from Naso...... 

I think I wouldn't.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 12, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
I'd like a once sentence explanation of each image from Naso...... 

I think I wouldn't.

It might be a scary world in there, but he has put each up as a representation of something and I'd like to hear in his own words what it means.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 12, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
I'd like a once sentence explanation of each image from Naso...... 

I think I wouldn't.

It might be a scary world in there, but he has put each up as a representation of something and I'd like to hear in his own words what it means.

Naso has ceased to be funny long ago. His ramblings of pure nonsense might be slightly amusing the first couple times, but then it gets boring and just plain retarded.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 12, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
I don't even get what that top image is supposed to be. Obama's America means black people?

Clearly those black people are way too uppity for Michael's tastes.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 17, 2012, 01:39:55 PM
Two from the same thread:

First, I think was a Bradley Effect, i.e. people lying to pollster because of race, in the 1980's and 1990's, but it was dwindling over time.  It arguably was there in some statewide races in the 2000's but it was not strong.

Second, the states where I though it would be pronounced, PA, OH, it was not there.  The PA numbers were right on.

Third, there were states where it looked like it happened, IA, where I never would have expected it.  There also seem to be cases where voters lied to the pollsters, but they said they were voting for McCain and voted for Obama.  That seemed to be in AZ and NM, and may be tied to voters of Mexican ancestry.  (A study from Harvard indicated that during the primaries, Obama underpolled with African-American voters.  Basically, they didn't want to look like they were voting for Obama just because he was black.)

Fourth, in trying to see if there were more states where Obama underpolled, there is the problem that a several large states were not polled.  I had found one poll within a month of the election in NY.  Obama overpolled and overpolled outside of the MOE.  The poll was not in a week of the election, and it was not a major polling firm.  Was that because of the electorate shifting toward the end?  Was it because the methodology of poll was bad?  Was it because a significant number of people didn't want the pollster to think they were voting for McCain because Obama was black?

The only thing that we can say is that Obama overpolled on some normally good nation polls, like Gallup, but didn't on some others, Rasmussen and PPP.  (And 2008 made PPP.)

Liberals have been saying for months that Romney should be beating Obama because the "economy sucks"  

The Liberals are right, Romney should be winning.  

Romney's losing because he's a Mormon and the liberal media hates Mormons.  

Obama's winning because he has the "stature of the presidency" and voters will tell pollsters they lean support towards the President.  Voters also don't want to "give up on the PResident" or appear racist, just because he is black.  

Carter was completely inept with disasters in both foreign policy and national economic policy.  
GHWB was a terrible politician/campaigner who couldn't communicate with voters or appear responsive to the national economic recession.  

Obama is a good speaker who connects with voters, and he staved off a Depression, but can't deliver a recovery.  Voters just have not been quick enough to bail on him yet.  The Liberal Media is helping to keep Obama up in the polls (because he's black superman!), lol.  


Title: The Inks Asylum of Absurdity, Ignorance and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
Feel free to post the greatest hits here!


Title: The Asylum of Absurdity, Ignorance and Inksing Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on September 18, 2012, 12:44:38 PM
Feel free to post the greatest hits here!
Editting the title only really works if you do it to the first post, Phil.


Title: Re: The Inks Asylum of Absurdity, Ignorance and Inksing Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 12:51:59 PM
Feel free to post the greatest hits here!
Editting the title only really works if you do it to the first post, Phil.

I know but since I don't have that power, I wanted to do it for at least one post.  :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 18, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
I figure SurveyUSA's polls are typically about 7 points off from the rest. Obama's doing about as well as he did last time.

I agree. But I just add a standard 5 points to Obama's margin in every SUSA poll, 7 in every Rassy poll, 2-4 in every PPP poll, and usually about 8-10 in all Republican internals.

and

The thread's been unlocked. I simply locked it because in the past, when a goldmine has to have a page of argumentative crap deleted from it, it's usually time for a new goldmine.

I don't really care if it's locked or not - I just did it following tradition.

I didn't even think people would care, not even Phil.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 18, 2012, 02:14:15 PM
1) There is in fact no such tradition. The previous Deluge was locked by the OP, not by a moderator.

2) Thinking that nobody would care about the closing of an Atlas Forum institution is absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 02:16:17 PM
These threads have been closed at least like 16 times.  Why is keeping the current thread open such a big deal?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
The only ignorant thing there was in thinking Phil wouldn't overreact, considering his past reactions to forum events...

Reported as a personal attack.


Title: Re: The Inksing Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Inks
Post by: minionofmidas on September 18, 2012, 02:22:40 PM
1) There is in fact no such tradition. The previous Deluge was locked by the OP, not by a moderator.

2) Thinking that nobody would care about the closing of an Atlas Forum institution is absurd.
There was such a tradition for the Goldmines. This is why they were eventually superceded by the Institute, which is eternal and will never close.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 02:25:44 PM
The only ignorant thing there was in thinking Phil wouldn't overreact, considering his past reactions to forum events...

Reported as a personal attack.

It's truth.  You argued with me that someone had hacked your tinypic link when even the administrators at tinypic told me that what you were describing was impossible.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
1) There is in fact no such tradition. The previous Deluge was locked by the OP, not by a moderator.

2) Thinking that nobody would care about the closing of an Atlas Forum institution is absurd.
There was such a tradition for the Goldmines. This is why they were eventually superceded by the Institute, which is eternal and will never close.

Oh, well apparently I missed that discussion.


Title: Re: The New Inks Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Moderator Decisions
Post by: minionofmidas on September 18, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
1) There is in fact no such tradition. The previous Deluge was locked by the OP, not by a moderator.

2) Thinking that nobody would care about the closing of an Atlas Forum institution is absurd.
There was such a tradition for the Goldmines. This is why they were eventually superceded by the Institute, which is eternal and will never close.

Oh, well apparently I missed that discussion.
Oh, I don't recall any such discussion either. I am just stating the apparent facts to a n00b who probably can't remember the Goldmines. The Institute has I think (I may be mistaken) been around longer now than any of the Goldmines ever lasted despite the occasional fistfights in its Hallowed Halls.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 02:32:06 PM
1) There is in fact no such tradition. The previous Deluge was locked by the OP, not by a moderator.

2) Thinking that nobody would care about the closing of an Atlas Forum institution is absurd.
There was such a tradition for the Goldmines. This is why they were eventually superceded by the Institute, which is eternal and will never close.

Oh, well apparently I missed that discussion.
Oh, I don't recall any such discussion either. I am just stating the apparent facts to a n00b who probably can't remember the Goldmines. The Institute has I think (I may be mistaken) been around longer now than any of the Goldmines ever lasted despite the occasional fistfights in its Hallowed Halls.

I don't know if it's been around longer (that was actually one of the things I looked at when I locked it was how long these things normally last), but it had more pages than all of the ones I clicked, so I figured it was fine to start a new one.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 18, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
These threads have been closed at least like 16 times.  Why is keeping the current thread open such a big deal?

What, did you forget the reaction the last time you tried to pull this bullinks?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:05:16 PM
These threads have been closed at least like 16 times.  Why is keeping the current thread open such a big deal?

What, did you forget the reaction the last time you tried to pull this bullinks?

Which was?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:09:59 PM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 18, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 18, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
The hits keep coming. Inks brushed off my suggestion earlier that he just delete the questionable comments in thread (because it would result in a whole page being deleted) instead of locking the thread. Now he's acting like it was part of his plan all along. Brilliant performance.

I love it when a brat gets caught overstepping their bounds and is feverishly back peddling.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:44:50 PM
The hits keep coming. Inks brushed off my suggestion earlier that he just delete the questionable comments in thread (because it would result in a whole page being deleted) instead of locking the thread. Now he's acting like it was part of his plan all along. Brilliant performance.

I love it when a brat gets caught overstepping their bounds and is feverishly back peddling.

No, when you suggested that, I had already deleted the posts...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:46:21 PM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.

I didn't simply close it because it was getting annoying to moderate.  I closed it because it was getting annoying to moderate AND because when fights like these break out in previous Goldmines, that's the point that a new one starts.

Without that second half of the sentence, I wouldn't have locked the thread, and that's what you're not understanding.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on September 18, 2012, 03:49:40 PM
I don't think the original goldmines were ever locked when they were exhausted... someone just started a new one. This was in the days before nannymoderators.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 18, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
The answer, I believe, is actually none because they have better things to do with their time than dance on a pinhead.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 03:51:22 PM
Inks, you made a statement that you didn't lock the thread because it violated the ToS. Yet you quite clearly told me that you locked it because I was "an ass publicly on the forum and that's a violation of the ToS."

Care to explain why you're lying here?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:51:56 PM
Speaking of getting caught, Phil, I'm awaiting your response.  You never have conceded the Tinypic point after what, a year now?

The only ignorant thing there was in thinking Phil wouldn't overreact, considering his past reactions to forum events...

Reported as a personal attack.

It's truth.  You argued with me that someone had hacked your tinypic link when even the administrators at tinypic told me that what you were describing was impossible.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
Speaking of getting caught, Phil, I'm awaiting your response.  You never have conceded the Tinypic point after what, a year now?

The only ignorant thing there was in thinking Phil wouldn't overreact, considering his past reactions to forum events...

Reported as a personal attack.

It's truth.  You argued with me that someone had hacked your tinypic link when even the administrators at tinypic told me that what you were describing was impossible.

LOL! This is perfect. This is how I know we got you backed into a corner. Thanks, Inks. For real. Thank you.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 03:55:23 PM
Inks, you made a statement that you didn't lock the thread because it violated the ToS. Yet you quite clearly told me that you locked it because I was "an ass publicly on the forum and that's a violation of the ToS."

Care to explain why you're lying here?

That was not the PM I sent.  That sentence had nothing to do with the locking of the Goldmine.

For context, I'll post the whole PM:

Inks, get over yourself and get laid.

"I don't take orders from you."

Oh! Very serious moderator man! You are in charge! Yes sir!

You decide to threaten me ("...and your threads might stay open in the future")? Great. You've gotten your war now. I'm staying on this until the thread is unlocked and/or you're removed as a moderator. You seriously need to get a life, dude.

P.S. - Glad you delete other threads when personal attacks are directed my way.  ::)

It's not a threat.  It's a simple principle.  Be an ass publicly on the forum, and that's against the Terms of Service.

I delete threads when personal attacks are directed your way, and I deleted and infracted the post in the thread that you reported.

Dude, it's time to grow up and stop being an Internet drama queen.  Not only is it immature, but you're going to regret it when sh**t like this surfaces when you run for office.  Not everybody is as cordial to your trolling as I am - look at how much attention the liberals on the site paid attention to DWTL's election when he ran.  Do you really want some of the stuff you've said on this forum public?

Come on man - just be civil.

"You've gotten your war now" - that's Jr. High stuff.  Anybody who starts a war in an Internet forum has no place to tell someone to "get a life".


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 18, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
I just love the Inks vs Phil fights. They are just delicious ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on September 18, 2012, 04:56:06 PM
A good argument could be made for banning all libertarians:

One of the top 3 presidents ever, easily. Vietnam is a huge black mark but overshadowed by the 1964 CRA, the 1965 VRA, Medicare, and the Great Society.

Nah. Lincoln is clearly #1 (though I can understand non-Americans liking FDR), while #2 and #3 go to FDR and Washington. Fourth and fifth are tougher, but I'd go with Teddy and Harry.

You never fail to amuse me with your comically backwards presidential rankings.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
Inks, you made a statement that you didn't lock the thread because it violated the ToS. Yet you quite clearly told me that you locked it because I was "an ass publicly on the forum and that's a violation of the ToS."

Care to explain why you're lying here?

That was not the PM I sent.  That sentence had nothing to do with the locking of the Goldmine.

For context, I'll post the whole PM:

Inks, get over yourself and get laid.

"I don't take orders from you."

Oh! Very serious moderator man! You are in charge! Yes sir!

You decide to threaten me ("...and your threads might stay open in the future")? Great. You've gotten your war now. I'm staying on this until the thread is unlocked and/or you're removed as a moderator. You seriously need to get a life, dude.

P.S. - Glad you delete other threads when personal attacks are directed my way.  ::)

It's not a threat.  It's a simple principle.  Be an ass publicly on the forum, and that's against the Terms of Service.

I delete threads when personal attacks are directed your way, and I deleted and infracted the post in the thread that you reported.

Dude, it's time to grow up and stop being an Internet drama queen.  Not only is it immature, but you're going to regret it when sh**t like this surfaces when you run for office.  Not everybody is as cordial to your trolling as I am - look at how much attention the liberals on the site paid attention to DWTL's election when he ran.  Do you really want some of the stuff you've said on this forum public?

Come on man - just be civil.

"You've gotten your war now" - that's Jr. High stuff.  Anybody who starts a war in an Internet forum has no place to tell someone to "get a life".

Did you just post my private message? Enjoy your final hours as a moderator.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 05:13:32 PM
Phil, you posted my private message out of context without my permission.

I had 2 remedies: A) remove the offending message you posted, which would 1) not clear my name to people who had seen the misleading post, and 2) probably make you complain more that I deleted it.

B) Put the entire conversation in context.  Since you posted my PM, that could be reasonably interpreted to mean you agreed to allow posting of the PMs in question.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 05:15:02 PM
I did not post your private message. I posted a general comment from it.

You really overstepped this time. Hope you had fun as a moderator.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 05:16:44 PM
I did not post your private message. I posted a general comment from it.

You really overstepped this time. Hope you had fun as a moderator.

You quoted a selection from it to severely misconstrue what I said.  I was putting what I said in context, because when I simply say, "You're taking me out of context", you'll just say, "No I'm not. Don't lie.  You're a bad moderator!"


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on September 18, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
Thank you for posting your conversation directly into the Deluge, guys.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on September 18, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
The only ignorant thing there was in thinking Phil wouldn't overreact, considering his past reactions to forum events...

Reported as a personal attack.

Phil throwing insults then running to the mods when someone responds in kind? This is utterly unprecedented!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 18, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
Yeah, Phil's a real winner.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 18, 2012, 05:39:13 PM
This thread is giving me pneumonia.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 18, 2012, 05:42:10 PM
How long before Phil calls Inks' parents?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 18, 2012, 05:43:47 PM

'Yes, hello Mr. and Mrs. Inks...your son has been rustling the internet's jimmies..."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 18, 2012, 05:46:21 PM

'Yes, hello Mr. and Mrs. Inks...your son has been rustling the internet's jimmies..."

Hello, Mrs. Inks, this is Keystone Phil from Atlas Forum. Your son just posted my PM without a permission.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 05:46:30 PM
EDIT by Mikado: Post removed.  Modified rather than deleted so you won't blame Inks.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on September 18, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
"Inks, go get laid"? Really?

Phil, are you a jock in a 1980s teen movie?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 18, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
"Inks, go get laid"? Really?

Phil, are you a jock in a 1980s teen movie?
No...he's more like the 20 year old Mexican illegal immigrant dating a 14 year old girl in the 1990 direct to video movie we watched today in Spanish class.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 18, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
"Inks, go get laid"? Really?

Phil, are you a jock in a 1980s teen movie?

It's a line I've probably used a total of five times but when it applies...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 18, 2012, 06:13:48 PM
Well, at least this conversation is happening in the right place.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on September 18, 2012, 06:38:29 PM
A good argument could be made for banning all libertarians:

One of the top 3 presidents ever, easily. Vietnam is a huge black mark but overshadowed by the 1964 CRA, the 1965 VRA, Medicare, and the Great Society.

Nah. Lincoln is clearly #1 (though I can understand non-Americans liking FDR), while #2 and #3 go to FDR and Washington. Fourth and fifth are tougher, but I'd go with Teddy and Harry.

You never fail to amuse me with your comically backwards presidential rankings.

I stand by that remark and shall continue to stand by it. Your later response also earned a place in my signature. Congratulations.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 18, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
This is really entertaining.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on September 18, 2012, 07:58:18 PM
"Inks, go get laid"? Really?

Phil, are you a jock in a 1980s teen movie?

Why does he have to be a Billy Zabka type and not Rodney from Caddyshack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxvdvoQgAy8



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 18, 2012, 09:38:47 PM
Let's move on, shall we?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on September 18, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
:D :D :D


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Politico on September 18, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

You know, I have a history of disagreeing with you, but when you're right you're absolutely right (And you're not a bad guy when you strip away your failed economic philosophy). Some folks on here take this place way too seriously. This place is for entertainment and education purposes, folks.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 18, 2012, 11:19:02 PM
220 days, 2 hours and 38 minutes - not as bad as I'd feared :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Politico on September 18, 2012, 11:24:42 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

To be fair, some people leave themselves logged in while doing other stuff online.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 18, 2012, 11:28:59 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

To be fair, some people leave themselves logged in while doing other stuff online.

But you time out after 15 minutes.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 19, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

Al is one of the eldest posters of the forum. Looking at it in percentage of time spent since registration would be fairer.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 19, 2012, 03:26:08 AM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.

I didn't simply close it because it was getting annoying to moderate.  I closed it because it was getting annoying to moderate AND because when fights like these break out in previous Goldmines, that's the point that a new one starts.

Without that second half of the sentence, I wouldn't have locked the thread, and that's what you're not understanding.

Inks's use of the "Atlas tradition" argument is not only wrong, but also insincere and self-contradictory:

8/6/24.

Is this better, O Great and Powerful Inks?

Quote from: a Person


Quote from: a Person
So it was apparently deleted from this thread as well?

Quote from: Jay Rockefeller, Illuminati Puppet
[STUFF ABOUT LIONS]

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points

Really?

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points


Stating what you are infracted for is now worth ten points... If this isn't moderator tyranny, I don't know what is.

Yeah... stating what you're infracted for with a quote defeats the purpose of deleting and infracting the post.  If I let you repost it, it's essentially just letting you post it.  If you truly wanted to appeal the points, you could've PMed me.
Sorry, not buying it.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153941.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153010.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=150281.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148047.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148745.0
As expected, Inks completely ignores the fact that his argument has been torn to shreds.

It's 4th of July weekend - I'm working double shifts at work with the exception of today.  My apologies that I didn't make responding to your strawman post a priority.
I thought I had seen you post in between those two times.
[EDIT] That's right, you did.
Quote
And I'll merely point out that none of your sources are links to MY board.  If I were Nym, I wouldn't allow threads like those to exist on The Atlas, but I'm not Nym, so I have no power to change that.
Are these better?
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3303637#msg3303637
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3085130#msg3085130

Plus dozens more that don't quote the infracted post but state exactly what it was about.
And this (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156010.msg3355337#msg3355337).
By a moderator, no less.

It is Atlas tradition to post in that thread the post you were infracted for.
Evidently Inks only follows "Atlas tradition" when it suits him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 19, 2012, 03:39:30 AM
I don't think the original goldmines were ever locked when they were exhausted... someone just started a new one. This was in the days before nannymoderators.

That's not correct.  Plenty of the older goldmines are locked.  Anyway, the "Institute" is awful now, and I think it's gone on longer than any previous goldmine.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 19, 2012, 05:15:16 AM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

Obvious, but cheap. I think maybe a little bit too cheap. As cheap as raising an eyebrow at someone with but 67 posts making some in the familiar tone that you do. Hypothetically.

Anyways, I already mentioned that the main purpose of the forum is to facilitate procrastination. The issue is people taking things far too fycking seriously.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 19, 2012, 05:23:07 AM
Jesus Christ you people are babies


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on September 19, 2012, 05:55:01 AM
shhh man!...they may be babies but they have a sharp wit, be careful or you'll be wounded by a highbrow retort!  RETORT I SAY!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 19, 2012, 07:59:03 AM
The issue is people taking things far too fycking seriously.

Hi, Al! Have you met Inks? He's one of your fellow moderators...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 19, 2012, 08:02:07 AM
The issue is people taking things far too fycking seriously.

Hi, Al! Have you met Inks? He's one of your fellow moderators...

Phil, you're accusing Inks of taking this too seriously. Yet, at the same time, you started two threads, sent PMs here and on FB, replied dozens of times and proclaimed a holy crusade.

Isn't that a little schizophrenic?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 19, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
The issue is people taking things far too fycking seriously.

Hi, Al! Have you met Inks? He's one of your fellow moderators...

I had both of you in mind, actually.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 19, 2012, 11:04:36 AM
The issue is people taking things far too fycking seriously.

Hi, Al! Have you met Inks? He's one of your fellow moderators...

Phil, you're accusing Inks of taking this too seriously. Yet, at the same time, you started two threads, sent PMs here and on FB, replied dozens of times and proclaimed a holy crusade.

Isn't that a little schizophrenic?
Kal, if ever I needed an example of the pot calling the kettle black...

Again, if you want to say I care too much about it, do yourself a favor and say it like one time. You're a little too bent on saying how much I supposedly care.

P.S. - Others have messaged and started threads about the recent events so I'm glad I'm just a target of one of your bipolar fits (again). See you in like a week or so when you're foaming at the mouth about someone else. :)

Fighting each other while we should be fighting the cause of the whole fracas -- namely, Inks -- is the worst possible thing we could be doing right now.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on September 19, 2012, 11:26:33 AM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

To be fair, some people leave themselves logged in while doing other stuff online.

But you time out after 15 minutes.

I think we actually figured out that time spent idle doesn't go on the clock.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on September 19, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
Kal, if ever I needed an example of the pot calling the kettle black...

Again, if you want to say I care too much about it, do yourself a favor and say it like one time. You're a little too bent on saying how much I supposedly care.

P.S. - Others have messaged and started threads about the recent events so I'm glad I'm just a target of one of your bipolar fits (again). See you in like a week or so when you're foaming at the mouth about someone else. :)

Stay classy, Phil.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 19, 2012, 12:57:59 PM
Kal, if ever I needed an example of the pot calling the kettle black...

Again, if you want to say I care too much about it, do yourself a favor and say it like one time. You're a little too bent on saying how much I supposedly care.

P.S. - Others have messaged and started threads about the recent events so I'm glad I'm just a target of one of your bipolar fits (again). See you in like a week or so when you're foaming at the mouth about someone else. :)

Stay classy, Phil.

Badger, I am positively in awe at this magnificent demonstration of your skill with retorts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on September 19, 2012, 01:14:05 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

Obvious, but cheap. I think maybe a little bit too cheap. As cheap as raising an eyebrow at someone with but 67 posts making some in the familiar tone that you do. Hypothetically.

is this a sock-allegation?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 19, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
You all take this sort of thing much too seriously; the forum is a hallowed ground of procrastination, not a matter of life and death. Please consider investing in lives.

Most Time Online

1. Comrade Sibboleth  600days 14hours 20minutes

Obvious, but cheap. I think maybe a little bit too cheap. As cheap as raising an eyebrow at someone with but 67 posts making some in the familiar tone that you do. Hypothetically.

is this a sock-allegation?

I hope so, because no newbie with 67 posts would think to look at Al's online time, or probably even know these times were kep.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 02:23:06 PM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.

I didn't simply close it because it was getting annoying to moderate.  I closed it because it was getting annoying to moderate AND because when fights like these break out in previous Goldmines, that's the point that a new one starts.

Without that second half of the sentence, I wouldn't have locked the thread, and that's what you're not understanding.

Inks's use of the "Atlas tradition" argument is not only wrong, but also insincere and self-contradictory:

8/6/24.

Is this better, O Great and Powerful Inks?

Quote from: a Person


Quote from: a Person
So it was apparently deleted from this thread as well?

Quote from: Jay Rockefeller, Illuminati Puppet
[STUFF ABOUT LIONS]

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points

Really?

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points


Stating what you are infracted for is now worth ten points... If this isn't moderator tyranny, I don't know what is.

Yeah... stating what you're infracted for with a quote defeats the purpose of deleting and infracting the post.  If I let you repost it, it's essentially just letting you post it.  If you truly wanted to appeal the points, you could've PMed me.
Sorry, not buying it.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153941.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153010.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=150281.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148047.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148745.0
As expected, Inks completely ignores the fact that his argument has been torn to shreds.

It's 4th of July weekend - I'm working double shifts at work with the exception of today.  My apologies that I didn't make responding to your strawman post a priority.
I thought I had seen you post in between those two times.
[EDIT] That's right, you did.
Quote
And I'll merely point out that none of your sources are links to MY board.  If I were Nym, I wouldn't allow threads like those to exist on The Atlas, but I'm not Nym, so I have no power to change that.
Are these better?
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3303637#msg3303637
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3085130#msg3085130

Plus dozens more that don't quote the infracted post but state exactly what it was about.
And this (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156010.msg3355337#msg3355337).
By a moderator, no less.

It is Atlas tradition to post in that thread the post you were infracted for.
Evidently Inks only follows "Atlas tradition" when it suits him.

Those aren't instances of "Atlas tradition".  Those are instances of different moderator style.  On Forum Community, you're not allowed to post an infracted post.  That's something Mikado and I (I'm not sure about Alcon, since he's less active) agree on.

Atlas tradition is stuff like starting a new PAPOY thread each year or "Congrats Phil", not stuff that has to do with moderation style.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 19, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
IOW, you didn't bother to read the last three links.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 02:58:45 PM
IOW, you didn't bother to read the last three links.

What links are you referencing?  I skimmed the whole thing... when you post that long of an argument, yeah, I'm going to skim it.  So what exactly is your obscure argument here?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on September 19, 2012, 03:04:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuLebpUBCio

Gniloy fashistskoy nechesti...zagonim pulyu v lob!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 19, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
Oh, I see what you're saying now... 3 links were on my board.  Well, since unfortunately I'm not omniscient anymore, so I don't know of EVERYTHING posted on my boards.  Dude... I hadn't seen the posts before you brought it up.  Did you ever think of that?  You made that post in the middle of the week of Fourth of July, so I was working double shifts all week.  I never saw your response.  Once my recusal period is over, I'll make sure I go back and remove them.  Thank you for assisting me in my moderation duties.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 19, 2012, 04:14:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuLebpUBCio

Gniloy fashistskoy nechesti...zagonim pulyu v lob!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ7i0QF9ko0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on September 19, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
I consider myself a good judge of character and good discussion.  I say Dave just make me Admin for a day.  Then I can just permaban everything that sucks about this forum and be done with it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on September 19, 2012, 04:36:11 PM
I consider myself a good judge of character and good discussion.  I say Dave just make me Admin for a day.  Then I can just permaban everything that sucks about this forum and be done with it.

Endorsed.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on September 19, 2012, 06:20:30 PM
Entire thread is a joke.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=159594.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=159594.0)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on September 19, 2012, 08:33:35 PM
I don't see what's so bad about becoming Barack Obama. If voters have the choice between two guys with exactly the same positions, won't they go for the white guy over the black guy? Not a bad strategy for Mitt Romney


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on September 19, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
Kal, if ever I needed an example of the pot calling the kettle black...

Again, if you want to say I care too much about it, do yourself a favor and say it like one time. You're a little too bent on saying how much I supposedly care.

P.S. - Others have messaged and started threads about the recent events so I'm glad I'm just a target of one of your bipolar fits (again). See you in like a week or so when you're foaming at the mouth about someone else. :)

Stay classy, Phil.

Badger, I am positively in awe at this magnificent demonstration of your skill with retorts.

Meh. Over the top sarcasm duly noted, but sometimes less is more. It's not necessary to go on and on with a frothing overly-loquacious screed to note when someone's being a bit of a tool.

Many here could take a point from this.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 20, 2012, 03:13:21 AM
Badger -- "frothing overly-loquacious screed", referring to a Santorum supporter? I'm fairly certain those jokes are infractible.

IOW, you didn't bother to read the last three links.

What links are you referencing?  I skimmed the whole thing... when you post that long of an argument, yeah, I'm going to skim it.  So what exactly is your obscure argument here?
Oh, I see what you're saying now... 3 links were on my board.  Well, since unfortunately I'm not omniscient anymore, so I don't know of EVERYTHING posted on my boards.  Dude... I hadn't seen the posts before you brought it up.  Did you ever think of that?  You made that post in the middle of the week of Fourth of July, so I was working double shifts all week.  I never saw your response.  Once my recusal period is over, I'll make sure I go back and remove them.  Thank you for assisting me in my moderation duties.

You dismissed the other examples, so I provided more fitting ones.
And I did bring it up again in the same thread 1-1/2 months later, when it was duly ignored again.

But then, this argument wasn't meant to be about your previous failures as moderator, but about your current failure as a moderator.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 20, 2012, 03:22:17 AM
As I said, I honestly didn't see it when you posted it in July - that week is a hectic work week where I work, and I was working a lot.  I'm not ignoring it now, I WILL delete those posts once my recusal time is up.  Thank you for bringing those to my attention.  I don't know what else to tell you... give yourself a pat on the back for helping me do my job?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 20, 2012, 03:35:12 AM
As I said, I honestly didn't see it when you posted it in July - that week is a hectic work week where I work, and I was working a lot.  I'm not ignoring it now, I WILL delete those posts once my recusal time is up.  Thank you for bringing those to my attention.  I don't know what else to tell you... give yourself a pat on the back for helping me do my job?

You're reinforcing my point -- one of the main purposes of that thread was to share which posts one was infracted for.

The same way that the main purpose of the old Deluge was to post absurd and/or ignorant posts.

In both cases, you decided you didn't like this purpose and purged bzw. locked the thread.

So your argument that the purpose of the MANIC is to be a short-lived/easily-searchable comedy goldmine devoid of argument is hollow.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on September 20, 2012, 04:11:53 AM
As I said, I honestly didn't see it when you posted it in July - that week is a hectic work week where I work, and I was working a lot.  I'm not ignoring it now, I WILL delete those posts once my recusal time is up.  Thank you for bringing those to my attention.  I don't know what else to tell you... give yourself a pat on the back for helping me do my job?

You're reinforcing my point -- one of the main purposes of that thread was to share which posts one was infracted for.

The same way that the main purpose of the old Deluge was to post absurd and/or ignorant posts.

In both cases, you decided you didn't like this purpose and purged bzw. locked the thread.

So your argument that the purpose of the MANIC is to be a short-lived/easily-searchable comedy goldmine devoid of argument is hollow.

My young friend, you are severely confused.  The purpose of that thread was NOT to share which posts you were inracted for, but to share how many posts you were infracted for.  It is the consensus amongst the FC mods that reposting of infracted material is not allowed.  That is not MY rule, it is the BOARD rule.  It is a TOS rule, because if we let you repost material that is against the TOS rule, what is the purpose of the TOS?

In the Deluge thread, I locked it because I believed it was against the TOS.

As to the comedy thread, I locked it because I believed, in forum tradition, it was time for a new one (becasue a page had been deleted due to TOS violations).

The first 2 have direct ties to the TOS.

The third one was NOT locked for being a TOS violation, but out of forum tradition, and time and time again, that is what you are failing to understand.  I did not lock the Instite thread because I didn't like it's purpose.  In fact, I love the comedy goldmines, as evidence by my posting in them.

Seriously, dude, this isn't hard to comprehend.  How you're not following me is honestly getting kinda annoying... I'm tired of banging my head against a wall trying to get you to understand this.  If you can't comprehend it, stop arguing with me.  I have better things to do with my time.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on September 20, 2012, 08:40:20 AM
Kal, if ever I needed an example of the pot calling the kettle black...

Again, if you want to say I care too much about it, do yourself a favor and say it like one time. You're a little too bent on saying how much I supposedly care.

P.S. - Others have messaged and started threads about the recent events so I'm glad I'm just a target of one of your bipolar fits (again). See you in like a week or so when you're foaming at the mouth about someone else. :)

Stay classy, Phil.

Eh, you're another one. You'll get on a kick of attacking me then throw a fit when I defend myself. It's even more amazing that you're a moderator but I guess there is consistency around here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 20, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
GETTING BACK ON TOPIC, this hilarious gem by a Deluge legend:



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 20, 2012, 08:36:26 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=159505


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 21, 2012, 01:16:59 AM
Here is the chair in question.

Pray tell how does one "lynch" a chair?

The picture shows a chair hanging from a rope.

()


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 24, 2012, 07:58:55 AM
Yes because he never did anything wrong. Wealth, business, success...that's been the Capitalist backbone for our history. Communism, government control, socialism, all that crap is what the rest of the world does. We would have had a nuclear war before allowing our nation to embrace the ideals of communism, now we seem to have people who sit back and think, "Hmmm maybe it's not so bad if I can get free stuff..."

Those people are no different than commies, themselves.

()


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on September 25, 2012, 03:07:53 AM
If you're referencing locking the Deluge, then read my post in the Goldmine:

I'm doubled over at this idea that Inks was going to bow to the very first hint of public displeasure as if he always does that. :D

There's no precedent for what I did here.  What I did was not an action out of a Terms of Service moderation, but merely what I understood to be unofficial forum precedent.  Once I would've realized that my understanding of how the goldmine worked wasn't the same as everyone else's, I would've undone what I did, since I wasn't acted under the TOS, but acting under the rules that had previously guided the goldmines.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevant, because I know I'm right, since you can't know my thought process.

I didn't lock the Institute because I thouht it violated the TOS.  I deleted a page worth of TOS violations and thought that at that point, the thread had run its course and it was time for a new one.

In locking the Deluge, it was my belief at the time that it should be permanently locked.

Why would I think people would flip out over a new comedy goldmine being started?

That's entirely beside the point. What matters is that you seem to think that a longstanding forum institution (the Deluge bzw. the Institute) can be locked on no other grounds than "it was getting annoying to moderate." If you think there is too much material to moderate, step down and let someone else be moderator. It's that simple.

I didn't simply close it because it was getting annoying to moderate.  I closed it because it was getting annoying to moderate AND because when fights like these break out in previous Goldmines, that's the point that a new one starts.

Without that second half of the sentence, I wouldn't have locked the thread, and that's what you're not understanding.

Inks's use of the "Atlas tradition" argument is not only wrong, but also insincere and self-contradictory:

8/6/24.

Is this better, O Great and Powerful Inks?

Quote from: a Person


Quote from: a Person
So it was apparently deleted from this thread as well?

Quote from: Jay Rockefeller, Illuminati Puppet
[STUFF ABOUT LIONS]

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points

Really?

Post Deleted for Inappropriate with 10 (out of 10) infraction points


Stating what you are infracted for is now worth ten points... If this isn't moderator tyranny, I don't know what is.

Yeah... stating what you're infracted for with a quote defeats the purpose of deleting and infracting the post.  If I let you repost it, it's essentially just letting you post it.  If you truly wanted to appeal the points, you could've PMed me.
Sorry, not buying it.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153941.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153010.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=150281.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148047.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=148745.0
As expected, Inks completely ignores the fact that his argument has been torn to shreds.

It's 4th of July weekend - I'm working double shifts at work with the exception of today.  My apologies that I didn't make responding to your strawman post a priority.
I thought I had seen you post in between those two times.
[EDIT] That's right, you did.
Quote
And I'll merely point out that none of your sources are links to MY board.  If I were Nym, I wouldn't allow threads like those to exist on The Atlas, but I'm not Nym, so I have no power to change that.
Are these better?
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3303637#msg3303637
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=119319.msg3085130#msg3085130

Plus dozens more that don't quote the infracted post but state exactly what it was about.
And this (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156010.msg3355337#msg3355337).
By a moderator, no less.

It is Atlas tradition to post in that thread the post you were infracted for.
Evidently Inks only follows "Atlas tradition" when it suits him.

Those aren't instances of "Atlas tradition".  Those are instances of different moderator style.  On Forum Community, you're not allowed to post an infracted post.  That's something Mikado and I (I'm not sure about Alcon, since he's less active) agree on.

Atlas tradition is stuff like starting a new PAPOY thread each year or "Congrats Phil", not stuff that has to do with moderation style.

this exchange should be nominated for some kind of award for complicated use of quotation formatting and links


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on September 25, 2012, 09:24:04 AM
I don't even:

Romney has a lot of money and it looks like he'll end up with a lot of money left over after November 6th. Why not make a 20 million ad buy in California? If he could win California, that could offset losses in Ohio, Florida and Virginia


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 25, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
Texans get exactly the kind of government they deserve. They are only Texans, after all. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

^^^This. Texans (or at least the conservative mental midget types) don't deserve any government. They can live in the Stone Age and die in poverty for all I care.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on September 25, 2012, 04:04:19 PM
Poll on whether one supports the temp banning of Keystone Phil:


I still like you, Julio. :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on September 25, 2012, 04:30:04 PM
Regarding Duval Freaking County...



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 25, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
I don't even:

Romney has a lot of money and it looks like he'll end up with a lot of money left over after November 6th. Why not make a 20 million ad buy in California? If he could win California, that could offset losses in Ohio, Florida and Virginia

wut



Texans get exactly the kind of government they deserve. They are only Texans, after all. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

^^^This. Texans (or at least the conservative mental midget types) don't deserve any government. They can live in the Stone Age and die in poverty for all I care.

F[INKS]ING
WUT


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on September 25, 2012, 04:54:36 PM
"Quit trolling. These useless obese people should be happy that someone cares about their dietary needs since their obese parents clearly don't." Mondale80

Anything that guy posts is trolling, yet he says everybody else with a blue or green avatar is trolling.  Too much irony.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 25, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
All these Politico threads are giving me pneumonia.

The truth hurts?

Quote
Mods, merge and infract at will.

I have started, what, three threads in the past two weeks?

I follow the terms of service. If you do not like dissent, perhaps Democratic Underground would be a more suitable environment for you?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 26, 2012, 01:40:16 PM
The first part is not absurd per se but once he gives examples you can probably see the big issue:

Romney is a nerd, but so what? He'll get the job done right, unlike the current office holder...

Plus, Obama really isn't that cool. He's a 50 yr old college professor-type. Clinton and GWB got coolness on both Obama and Romney.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on September 27, 2012, 08:15:07 PM
People like you are part of the reason why we've been losing the South. Look at Arkansas; they still have New Deal infrastructure in place and are solidly Democratic at a local and state level. Though some of the blame lies on some Blue Dogs being crybabies, some of it does lie on the rise of the DLC and the Democratic Party's abandonment of its history from 1832 to 1980 as the party of the working man to instead be the party of yuppies and women.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Yelnoc on September 27, 2012, 09:02:04 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 28, 2012, 07:02:37 AM
Certain catastrophically awful ideas never really do go away...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 28, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on September 28, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


...I don't see the problem with this.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 28, 2012, 02:22:37 PM
I am so done with this guy

High tech drones which have killed tons of innocent individuals, including targets wrongly accused, also including at least one American citizen.

Your point?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on September 28, 2012, 03:14:35 PM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


...I don't see the problem with this.

See: speech, freedom of.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 28, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


...I don't see the problem with this.

See: speech, freedom of.

I didn't suggest he couldn't or shouldn't say it......the freedom to say stupid sh**t is firmly entrenched in our constitution.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 28, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
wow:

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college


Title: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on September 28, 2012, 04:58:49 PM
Per request, and since the Mondale84 posts are clogging up the main Deluge/Ore Mine/Institute.


Title: Re: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 28, 2012, 05:00:06 PM
Excellent thread idea + title


Title: Re: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on September 28, 2012, 05:07:10 PM
Examples of what goes here:

High tech drones which have killed tons of innocent individuals, including targets wrongly accused, also including at least one American citizen.

Your point?
[/quote]

Texans get exactly the kind of government they deserve. They are only Texans, after all. They wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

^^^This. Texans (or at least the conservative mental midget types) don't deserve any government. They can live in the Stone Age and die in poverty for all I care.

I figure SurveyUSA's polls are typically about 7 points off from the rest. Obama's doing about as well as he did last time.

I agree. But I just add a standard 5 points to Obama's margin in every SUSA poll, 7 in every Rassy poll, 2-4 in every PPP poll, and usually about 8-10 in all Republican internals.

It's way too early to say that. If the situation is like this on October 11, than it will be different.

Obama will probably have a 15-point lead by then, so yes it's too early to tell how big Obama's mandate will be.


Well, that depends on how polling stands on election day.
As of now, I certainly wouldn't call this "underperforming."

It certainly is with the current map:

(
)

The only issue being that's not the current map.

Well yes, I know that I'm being a little optimistic for the GOP, but the current polling certainly wouldn't exclude a map in this ballpark.

Anywhere he says "Obama easily." for random conservative counties, or Mikado's sig.


Title: Re: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on September 28, 2012, 05:08:29 PM
This thread is a waste of space, much like the main Deluge/Ore Mine. But even more of a waste of space because it's dedicated to a single person.

Instead of making useless threads, I recommend the usage of the block function - of which this specific case is the only one that motivates me to use it. Because that's what it's for.


Title: Re: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 28, 2012, 05:11:01 PM
I always press "show," though. I just can't help it.

The thing is, I honestly think mondale is objectively worse than Politico. There must be a mechanism to remove people like him from the forum.


Title: Re: The Mondale84 Deluge Segregation Zone of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on September 28, 2012, 05:12:00 PM
This thread is a waste of space, much like the main Deluge/Ore Mine. But even more of a waste of space because it's dedicated to a single person.

Instead of making useless threads, I recommend the usage of the block function - of which this specific case is the only one that motivates me to use it. Because that's what it's for.

As long as the Deluge/Ore Mine continues to exist, Mondale's posts shall continue to go there. It's a space-saving mechanism so the Deluge can be used for more out-of-the-ordinary absurdity/ignorance.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on September 28, 2012, 06:21:21 PM
wow:

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college

Excellent. Simply excellent.

Has J.J. pre-ordered his copy of 2016 yet?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on September 28, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


...I don't see the problem with this.

Er, that is to say I agree, not that the response belongs here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on September 29, 2012, 01:42:09 AM
wow:

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college

Excellent. Simply excellent.

Has J.J. pre-ordered his copy of 2016 yet?

He did say it was a positive. I'd take it as a positive.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on September 29, 2012, 01:43:16 AM
My big problem with the South is not past racism but past treason, and the fact Southerners idealize such treason, boast about it, and have made an integral part of their entity. What the South needs is a German-style attitude towards the Civil War, and I used to think I'd wish that on no one.

For example, the Confederate Battle Flag is a treasonous symbol, and ideally it would be treated much like the NSDAP flag is treated in Germany.


...I don't see the problem with this.

Er, that is to say I agree, not that the response belongs here.

Well, put it in the Gallery...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on September 29, 2012, 09:12:39 AM
wow:

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college

Excellent. Simply excellent.

Has J.J. pre-ordered his copy of 2016 yet?

He did say it was a positive. I'd take it as a positive.

Doesn't mean it's not completely absurd. I can't say I've ever seen these "questions" raised. Anyone else?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 29, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
wow:

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college

Excellent. Simply excellent.

Has J.J. pre-ordered his copy of 2016 yet?

He did say it was a positive. I'd take it as a positive.

Doesn't mean it's not completely absurd. I can't say I've ever seen these "questions" raised. Anyone else?

It's a standard J. J. tactic to say something ridiculous like that and then say "Oh but I'm not necessarily saying this is a bad thing." And yeah this is the first I've ever heard of that too.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 29, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
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Evidently these Catholics are not aware that Obama is waging a war against them bent on the ultimate goal of destroying all religion?

Let's see. Vote for the pro abortion pro gay marriage Muslim or for the pro abortion pro gay marriage Mormon?

What a thrilling election. :(

We've been having this discussion at my workplace - lots of conservative Catholics there. We all feel that our last chance for a decent candidate was Santorum, and since he's out - lots of folks choosing to stay home.

Everyone is hunkering down for the next 4 years because we know it's going to suck, but Texas should weather the storm.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RI on September 29, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
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Evidently these Catholics are not aware that Obama is waging a war against them bent on the ultimate goal of destroying all religion?

Let's see. Vote for the pro abortion pro gay marriage Muslim or for the pro abortion pro gay marriage Mormon?

What a thrilling election. :(

We've been having this discussion at my workplace - lots of conservative Catholics there. We all feel that our last chance for a decent candidate was Santorum, and since he's out - lots of folks choosing to stay home.

Everyone is hunkering down for the next 4 years because we know it's going to suck, but Texas should weather the storm.

Minus the Muslim part, this actually reflects the opinion of a lot of people I know.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on September 29, 2012, 03:21:14 PM
The Muslim part is the one that warrants its inclusion here though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on September 29, 2012, 04:50:12 PM

So you think Obama is in full collapse, Lief?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 30, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
I've posted my mental image of SJoyce before, so..

Pingvin:

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 02, 2012, 01:23:40 PM
I know I'm taking the trollbait, but I love this.

Now, New England does have some good leftists. I absolutely adore Joe Lieberman


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 02, 2012, 01:28:26 PM
I think that was an attempt at understated comedy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 02, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
I think that was an attempt at understated comedy.

Unfortunately I think seeing it context makes that look unlikely -


Hey. Wassup, man?

No, in all seriousness, we're talking about politicians, not posters...and, yeah, Bernie Sanders and Lizzy Warren suck. Chris Dodd sucks, so does Dan Malloy. John Kerry. Barney Frank & Dan Cicilline. John Tierney. Chellie Pingree. New England has a lot of really awful leftists.

Now, New England does have some good leftists. I absolutely adore Joe Lieberman (please don't lynch me) and there are some 'worthy opponents' I have a deal of respect for, like Peter Shumlin, Carol Shea-Porter, John Lynch, or Jeanne Shaheen.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 02, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Vosem is a pretty hawkish Jew, so I think he might be serious.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on October 03, 2012, 08:17:53 PM
Anyone else worried the Senate is going to become a lot more "girly" with all these new females coming in? They might just decide to go shopping instead of doing actual legislation.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on October 03, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
Vosem is a pretty hawkish Jew, so I think he might be serious.

Lieberman is mostly known for his foreign-policy stances, which I agree on, so yes, I do very much like Lieberman. That said, on second thought 'adore' is probably too strong a term, since Lieberman has a repressive streak (he's anti-violent video games, for example). But, yeah, Lieberman is one of my favorite NE leftists (if you call him that, I guess).

I know I'm taking the trollbait, but I love this.

'Trollbait'?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 04, 2012, 02:04:10 AM
How could I forget to post this?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=160451.0

He makes it too easy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 04, 2012, 05:15:24 AM
How could I forget to post this?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=160451.0

He makes it too easy.

...

no


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 05, 2012, 02:12:04 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 05, 2012, 03:23:05 PM

Goddamn.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 05, 2012, 04:26:37 PM
My teachers are too aware of what my reaction would be to try that with me...

Charming little fycker, aren't you?

Well, I don't like to be immodest, but...

When politics is discussed in my clique, it usually comes down to me saying something and everyone agreeing. I am a rather persuasive person in real life (I recall a rather heated argument about Libya with my English teacher, where I was actually against intervention and she was for it, where I managed to convince the entire class that Gaddafi was preferable to the rebels, and f**k the mainstream media).

Vosem's got some foot-in-mouth disease this week...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on October 05, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
Did I miss this one?

Admitted drug addict, Barack Obama has used cocaine and marijuana often during his high school and college years.  He told Jay Leno that he loved to inhale marijuana and "that was the point."  He's also tried to quit cigarette smoking during his first term. 

Do you feel comfortable voting for an admitted drug addict? 

Granted, most voters want marijuana legalized, so the stigma of drug addiction is lessened.  GW Bush was often seen at parties with cocaine and his presidency was a resounding success. 

Does drug addiction to marijuana or anything else affect a President's ability to have success? 

Will Obama succumb to the temptation of cigarettes before his 2nd debate performance?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 05, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Not only are you certifiably insane, but your snide insinuation that only Europeans (and not Asians) can have legitimate political opinions is the vilest, most offensive sentiment I have seen so far on the board, albeit quite representative of the typical snobby Western expat. Blocked.

Dude, I'm not insinuating anything, I'm just repeating anecdotes.  Though the insinuation is also accurate.  What do you mean 'blocked'?

Remember, only white people can have real opinions.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on October 05, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
My teachers are too aware of what my reaction would be to try that with me...

Charming little fycker, aren't you?

Well, I don't like to be immodest, but...

When politics is discussed in my clique, it usually comes down to me saying something and everyone agreeing. I am a rather persuasive person in real life (I recall a rather heated argument about Libya with my English teacher, where I was actually against intervention and she was for it, where I managed to convince the entire class that Gaddafi was preferable to the rebels, and f**k the mainstream media).

Vosem's got some foot-in-mouth disease this week...

That was stated ineloquently, but I think the point -- my reaction would be to try to argue with the teacher on the merits of what they are saying, and considering precedent would have at least a fair chance of 'winning' in the sense of making the student body sympathetic to my point of view -- is pretty clear, and is basically the same thing that Torie said upthread.

That said, I've been getting a max of 6 hours of sleep a night for the past week, so at the very least I have an excuse.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 06, 2012, 03:27:35 PM
The things you find when you check out the second wave feminist subforum in DU (that basically everyone else hates, including other feminists. It's like their equivalent of the 2012 forum) I'd say "LOL" but it's so dumb it's not even funny.

You're acting as if this were an isolated, radical fringe. There are a lot more of these people than you'd think especially among the white upper class.
White upper class women don't have political views. They're too busy shopping and scolding the nanny. In any case, the man haters are usually the unattractive girls who haven't been treated right. Money has very little to do with it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on October 06, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
The things you find when you check out the second wave feminist subforum in DU (that basically everyone else hates, including other feminists. It's like their equivalent of the 2012 forum) I'd say "LOL" but it's so dumb it's not even funny.

You're acting as if this were an isolated, radical fringe. There are a lot more of these people than you'd think especially among the white upper class.
White upper class women don't have political views. They're too busy shopping and scolding the nanny. In any case, the man haters are usually the unattractive girls who haven't been treated right. Money has very little to do with it.

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Is the best I can do.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 07, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
Steadily decreasing unemployment? Hell yeah, I want that.

Now can someone please delete this?

I am trying to spur discussion about the next debate. Why are you afraid? Why do you think this is a place of partisan censorship?

BTW, it would take 17 years of 114,000 jobs per month to create 23 million jobs. If millions had not stopped looking for work, unemployment would be 11% today. 50% of
college graduates this year have been unable to find work! Do you want to be one of them at some point in the not-so-distant future?
Dude, have you ever wondered, WHY we need to create 23 million more jobs anyway? What event and who's policies made it so we those 23 million jobs aren't still here?

The why is complicated yet also simple: Subprime mortgages and the unity of investment/commercial banking.

It is simple to blame Bush like a simpleton. Unfortunately, it's not that simple.
Exactly, these problems go back at least to the waning years of the Clinton Adm. If you expected over 12 years of mess to get cleaned up in 3 1/2 than there's something wrong here.
Reagan. Though the Clinton years are very much part of the problem.

Not that Obama has been ready to tackle the problem... it would hurt bankers's bonusses.

This, like many problems in America, goes back as far as Carter. Subprime mortgages would have never existed if not for Carter's meddling.

I strongly believe Carter is a man of morality who cares about America, and honestly wanted what was best for America. However, I am absolutely 100% convinced that at least one or two people in Carter's inner-circle were Soviet spies, or at least lone wolf Soviet sympathizers, who somehow managed to slip through the cracks, and remain undetected even after all these years. For example, its probably not a coincidence that John Lennon went into retirement right after Carter was inaugurated, and came out of retirement right after Reagan's rise. I know the sad implications of this statement.

I don't even


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 07, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
Tramadol combined with vodka?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 07, 2012, 05:51:28 PM
I put Politico permanently on ignore about a week ago and have resisted the urge to click 'show,' but that's rich.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on October 08, 2012, 12:27:17 AM
Some post I can't find that says Obama killed Trayvon Martin.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 08, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
"Subprime mortgages would have never existed if not for Carter's meddling." What the....

Actually that's not even the most absurd thing in that post...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 08, 2012, 01:14:53 PM
"Subprime mortgages would have never existed if not for Carter's meddling." What the....

Actually that's not even the most absurd thing in that post...
What earned it its place here was the Lennon angle. Although the way it builds up to that is... a work of art, really.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 08, 2012, 03:11:10 PM

Context.

Gotta love it when the hacks flat out expose themselves.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on October 08, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
"Subprime mortgages would have never existed if not for Carter's meddling." What the....

Actually that's not even the most absurd thing in that post...
What earned it its place here was the Lennon angle. Although the way it builds up to that is... a work of art, really.

Yes in some ways I find Politico our most intriguing poster.  He seems so consistent and then suddenly, at times, really strange things surface.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 09, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
There are a lot of Black youths in Virginia.  They are probably blaming the Bloods and the Crips, LOL.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on October 10, 2012, 01:16:39 AM
"Subprime mortgages would have never existed if not for Carter's meddling." What the....

Actually that's not even the most absurd thing in that post...
What earned it its place here was the Lennon angle. Although the way it builds up to that is... a work of art, really.

Months and months ago I said that if Romney won the election, I would be happy to step down as a Moderator and give my post to Winfield if he wanted it.  I stand by that, though I'm starting to regret not saying Politico.

(The logic being that if America has to have a Romney Administration, Atlas should have to endure it too)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 10, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
I actually think is a good thing. Americans generally have no idea how public policy can affects the lives of people, themselves included. At least this way, they get a pretty good lesson of why politics matters. Voting should never merely be an issue of conscience, like how American culture tries to paint it as.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 10, 2012, 05:40:20 PM
This entire thread, especially the fact that this is even considered news to begin with: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=161197.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 10, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
This entire thread, especially the fact that this is even considered news to begin with: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=161197.0

This entire thread, especially the fact that this is even considered news to begin with:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=68.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 10, 2012, 10:35:39 PM
Well, unless you're about 90 years old now, there will be plenty of white Presidents in your lifetime.  In fact, I believe Obama will be the only non white President for some time to come.

Just sayin'.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 10, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
Well, unless you're about 90 years old now, there will be plenty of white Presidents in your lifetime.  In fact, I believe Obama will be the only non white President for some time to come.

Just sayin'.

I don't see why that's a ridiculous prediction. Black candidates who are elected to non-black/VRA districts are rare. Which is part of what made Barack Obama so unique. Unless you're interpreting "some time" to mean a century.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 10, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
Well, unless you're about 90 years old now, there will be plenty of white Presidents in your lifetime.  In fact, I believe Obama will be the only non white President for some time to come.

Just sayin'.

I don't see why that's a ridiculous prediction. Black candidates who are elected to non-black/VRA districts are rare. Which is part of what made Barack Obama so unique. Unless you're interpreting "some time" to mean a century.

There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 10, 2012, 11:52:27 PM
There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 11, 2012, 12:01:48 AM
There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that

No it isn't.  Demographics have been changing for decades now and just because there aren't any African-American senators doesn't mean there won't be in two or four years.  Yes, we have Cory Booker.  We have Deval Patrick, as well.  Republicans have Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.  No one can predict exactly how many white presidents there will be in the future just as no one could have predicted the election of an African-American president ten years ago.

It is an ignorant and baseless statement.  I can't believe I'm actually having an argument about this.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on October 11, 2012, 02:01:31 AM
There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that

No it isn't.  Demographics have been changing for decades now and just because there aren't any African-American senators doesn't mean there won't be in two or four years.  Yes, we have Cory Booker.  We have Deval Patrick, as well.  Republicans have Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.  No one can predict exactly how many white presidents there will be in the future just as no one could have predicted the election of an African-American president ten years ago.

It is an ignorant and baseless statement.  I can't believe I'm actually having an argument about this.

Also, as you've touched on, there are non-whites who aren't black. There are more Hispanics and South Asians representing non-overwhelmingly-Hispanic/South Asian constituencies than one might think.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on October 11, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
Don't you mean "erases Barack's lead"? Your headline makes it sound like Romney's winning in a landslide. :P

I think most people would understand that to "erase a lead" implies pulling even, not a landslide.

Which is exactly why he said it should say "erases Barack's lead" instead of what Naso actually posted that is "erases Barack". I guess reading comprehension isn't something tested for MENSA membership.

I guess you do need to be in Mensa to understand that virtually no one says "erase" to mean "destroy" or "wins in a landslide."  

Naso, for BRTD's sake, use tiny words.

You still haven't figured it out.

I have.  You don't.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on October 11, 2012, 03:57:13 PM
wat

If President Obama doesn't turn things around in the second (townhall) debate, then yes he would likely be finished.  We would all be talking about the last great triumph of White America with the election of Mitt Romney -this being the last election in U.S. history in which a presidential candidate can be elected to the Presidency primarily on the backs of white voters.    

I agree, the next President will be Black or Hispanic.  There will be no more white presidents in my lifetime.  The Hispanic growth is just too strong to ignore.  There is a small number of illegal hispanics, but when Obama wins his second term, he will hopefully legalize or give green cards to Hispanic illegals.  The next president would likely be fluent in Spanish.  In addition, I hope the next president is a Roman Catholic, because for too long the white americans have branded good Catholics Like Ted Kennedy as extremists.  This election is about respect.  Brown skinned Americans will finally get the respect they deserve.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 後援会 on October 11, 2012, 06:08:28 PM
Sarcasm. Etc.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on October 12, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 13, 2012, 11:57:10 AM
Joe Biden is no Catholic.  You cannot spend 40 years supporting abortion in public office and be Catholic, period.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Wonkish1 on October 15, 2012, 05:19:20 PM
The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.

Anybody that read that knew what I meant. That after the adjustment it's essentially a tied poll. Don't read more into things than are there for only the purpose of trying to hit at me. Especially considering how much stuff you've written that could fill this thread(a lot easier for me to do to you than you to me).

Also since there is likely crossover(Dem's finding Ryan winner and GOP finding Biden winner) the net affect of the shift would actually be less than 5 which means if you really wanted to be a stickler my math is probably very accurate(even in some weird universe where you can somehow predict what the exact sample should have looked like given the polls exact methodology).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 16, 2012, 01:16:16 AM
Some of you guys live in solid democrat counties.  At least in a competitive districts, they mean something.

Believe it or not, a vote cast in a solidly Democratic county has the same weight as one cast in a swing county. Who knew!
I mean, if you're a Republican voting in a solid Democrat county, what's the point of voting? Might as well live somewhere else.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: bgwah on October 16, 2012, 07:02:15 PM
This has got to be one of the dumbest posts in forum history.

He also would have the least number or least diverse combination of 'American Nations' in the Modern Era.
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Dems look to win Yankeedom and (Yankeedom's off spring) the Left coast.  1 state of El Norte (New Mexico).   So, That's 1of9 nations or 2of10 depending on how you look at it. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 16, 2012, 07:06:13 PM
It's certainly the dumbest map posted in this forum's history.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 16, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
It's certainly the dumbest map posted in this forum's history.

Whether whoever made it is more ignorant of Canada or the US is very hard to pin down. North Dakota is downright hilarious too.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on October 18, 2012, 12:44:23 AM
Mister Twister telling someone to stop trolling is absurd in itself, but context is ABSOLUTELY needed here.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 18, 2012, 12:56:27 AM
Mister Twister telling someone to stop trolling is absurd in itself, but context is ABSOLUTELY needed here.


     That may be the greatest post to ever come out of the 2012 boards, for its sheer comedy value alone.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 18, 2012, 10:59:54 AM
OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on October 18, 2012, 11:11:56 AM
OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.

Pretty sure he was making fun of krazen.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on October 18, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
Have you not noticed those public sector union lords collecting massive dues and encouraging their overpaid minions to vote for Democrats?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 18, 2012, 03:04:48 PM
From a poll regarding Three Days Grace, a less-than-good but better-than-okay band that reached their pinnacle in like 2006 and hasn't done anything half as good since:

They're perhaps the greatest band to come out of Canada. You're opinion?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on October 18, 2012, 03:17:27 PM
From a poll regarding Three Days Grace, a less-than-good but better-than-okay band that reached their pinnacle in like 2006 and hasn't done anything half as good since:

They're perhaps the greatest band to come out of Canada. You're opinion?

Of course this is wrong, but to be fair, most really seminal musicians from Canada do seem to be primarily solo artists (then again, there might be some bands that I'm not aware are from Canada).

ETA: If we're using a one-drop rule then CSNY was Canadian.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 18, 2012, 03:45:29 PM
The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on October 18, 2012, 06:46:19 PM
The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.
How is that a bad post?  What if the result happens?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on October 18, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.

Pretty sure he was making fun of krazen.
Yeah, context doesn't make that so stupid.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 18, 2012, 07:20:05 PM
The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.
How is that a bad post?  What if the result happens?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on October 18, 2012, 07:27:20 PM
The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.
How is that a bad post?  What if the result happens?

If that happens we will of course eat crow, but it's far enough outside the current consensus of reasonableness to qualify here right now.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 18, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
2012 is headed to be a close election for either side, at the moment.  If it's a 1980-like result, I swear to never look at a single poll again until the week before the election.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 18, 2012, 09:10:53 PM
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Not saying this is possible, but what if this is the map on election day?

If that was the map, I'll be happy the R/R ticket won but I'll have a good reason to move out of CO for good.


colorado will be a better place without you. who will have the misfortune of having you?
CO was better back in the 1980s before 'everybody' and their mom's dog decided to move here. I'm sorry, but if your state failed miserably (California) due to high taxes, standards of living, regulations and of that sort, don't come here and change the demographics with your voting habits. They're blinded by belief and reality escaped a long time ago.

I hate to say this, but alot of Democrats are like vermin cockaroaches, they take over an area, spew their dirty political garbage, walk all over you and move on to the next state. It's an endless cycle and needs to be halted. The blue blood bleeds over and turns the healthy into infected victims.

This guy's on a roll tonight.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 19, 2012, 05:28:14 AM
OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.

Pretty sure he was making fun of krazen.
Belongs in the sulphur mine.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on October 19, 2012, 03:19:18 PM
2012 is headed to be a close election for either side, at the moment.  If it's a 1980-like result, I swear to never look at a single poll again until the week before the election.

If the Obama campaign keeps coming up with some of the stupid ill-timed bullsh**t it has come up with (like ing Big Bird and distanced million dollar Hollywood actors who think their opinion actually matters to millions of Americans at the same time that Romney runs a silent dinner table ad on unemployment), it might well be a 1980 result election.

Which isn't to say that Romney is the right man for the job.  He most definitely isn't.  But it seems that lately the Obama Campaign is almost going out of it's way to drop the ball, if the polling is accurate.  Seriously, whoever the Hell is directing the campaign needs to have a VERY LONG meeting with all of the President's men about the future of the campaign, or just get fired.

There are ways to run a campaign, and my god the President just isn't doing it.  I mean, my god dudes, he's running against Mitt ing Romney, who has given him more than enough ammunition to thoroughly demolish him back to the fourth grade.  Yet, thanks to the throughly incompetent team that he has, Romney somehow not only manages to come within five poitns of Obama, but is actually somehow now beating him.  Somehow, despite having enough gaffes to pay off our debt to China, enough tax issues to make him look slimier than a trial lawyer, amazingly idiotic statements from various Republican officeholders, and not to mention blatant flip flopping, Romney is looking like a ing top dog to Obama.

Why do you ask?  Simple, the President ing sucks at campaigning.  It's quite clear that Obama is way better at getting an office than he is at defending it.  It's one thing to go out and say "yes I will do this" when you are not the the man in charge.  However, once in charge suddenly he is thrust into the limelight and expected to have the big balls and keep up the inspiration that got him into office in the first place.  Obama has more than enough things to brag about that he has done, but for some reason he just can't emphasize it enough.  Throughout this campaign I've heard very little about the success in getting Obamacare (or whatever it's called) passed, the Lily Ledbetter Act (which is ridic, considering that Romney is actually bringing up pay inequality amongst men and women and I have yet to here a thorough rebuking from the Administration), the end of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, etc. etc. etc.  Oh, and did anyone mention that the economy is IMPROVING?

Yet, all the talk I hear from the Obama campaign chooses instead to focus on OMG! HOLLYWOOD! and some rigoddamndiculous ad about ing Big Bird than actually defending the record (which Obama did a sh**t job of in the first debate).  Instead of bringing up all of this success and defending the record all I've seen is a bunch of social issues cheerleaders using demonization politics to convince people that Mitt Romney is the Devil and he eats babies.  Maybe it's just my ad market location, but I can't recall one Obama ad I've seen that was ever a positive defense of accomplishments that he had.  Which, frankly, is the only way a campaign can really succeed.
(which isn't to say Romney has been running a positive campaign.)

The 2008 Obama Campaign by comparison looks like a grade A Oscar Award Winner.  The campaign then managed to rally MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, most notably amongst the college age where he won a brain melting 68% or something like that, and deliver on a historic campaign.  The Obama of 2008 seems much different than the one of 2012.  In 2008, the campaign managed to carry an overwhelming message of Hope and Optimism for the future of the country instead of the dark, cynical, gutter politics that this one seems to be bringing.

Maybe it isn't Obama's fault, maybe like a bunch of people on here keep saying he was just transformed by the politics of Washington.  Fair enough, but that doesn't excuse playing by the book politics that could only lead to the further cynicism of the American Electorate and make this execution of "democracy" an even bigger sham than it is already.

Wow, that was quite a rant.  So in short, a lot of people need to get their sh**ts together.  I apologize for ranting in this fine thread and wish you gentlemen the best in your future endeavors.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on October 20, 2012, 12:57:07 AM
It's funny how this has become conventional wisdom so rapidly after most of us were thinking the same thing about the Romney campaign through most of September.

The problem is, Romney at least has the illusion of a plan. Obama really hasn't indicated what he'd do if he's re-elected. All I know is he's going to tax the rich and "become more flexible" with Russia. This man's been president for four years, and you're telling me he can't communicate some sort of basic plan?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 20, 2012, 01:18:26 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on October 20, 2012, 03:12:37 PM
Bringinthetruth, me thinks you are an Obamamite, guess you didn't like the outcome of any of the debates or the fact that Romney is winning on the economic message, then what about the Benghazi scandal: you gotta know that Mitt is gonna bring it up in the Boca Raton face-off, and no Candy Crowley to help out, tsk..tsk...aw well you can't have everything go your way: it's gonna be fun to watch poor old Barack to try and squirm out of this latest situation, reminds me of the guy who keeps stepping on rakes and getting whacked in the kisser, I feel his pain...I really do, not!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2012, 10:47:28 PM
It's about time Billy Graham saw the light and was man enough to admit to this.

Good for him.

Sincerity and humility at its' best.

Billy Graham is to be highly commended for this move.

He did the right thing.

Because apparently it's cool to abandon your morals and backtrack on your past deprecating of religious groups for political reasons.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 20, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 21, 2012, 12:30:16 AM
Well it appears to be from 2007. But it would be just as absurd then as it is today.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 22, 2012, 04:03:45 PM
Registered Democrat 96% 3% 1% 235
Registered Undeclared 80% 11% 9% 295
Registered Republican 90% 4% 6% 207



Lol, junk. This poll does not reflect the war on whites.

krazen, in which universe are Democrats waging a "war on whites?" Think carefully; the answer is not 'reality' or 'this one.'

To quote you liberals and use your logic:

The universe in which a half dozen national pollsters have whites voting Republican by 20 points.

Obviously then, this poll is absurd due to a heavy mispolling of whites. Republicans have a large edge in voter registration in New Hampshire.

wow  

(this is in reference to a poll of NH)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 22, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
So krazen is a white supremacist now?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 22, 2012, 04:36:45 PM

Just now?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 22, 2012, 05:11:35 PM
Well he was always an annoying hack but that doesn't make one a white supremacist. But "war on whites", that's basically straight from Stormfront.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 05:20:01 PM
NC is gone.  That turnout is brutal.

If the Obama campaign is being honest about it, and I doubt it, they just lost the election. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 23, 2012, 05:22:54 PM
NC is gone.  That turnout is brutal.

If the Obama campaign is being honest about it, and I doubt it, they just lost the election. 
Sometimes J.J. is at least decently reasonable....but what on God's green earth is this coming from?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 23, 2012, 05:29:49 PM
Someone lit the matches behind his eyes again, that's all. Nowt to worry about.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 23, 2012, 06:30:12 PM
That's not good. If it's that close of an election, the Republicans will steal it, especially since they control most of the likely closest states.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on October 24, 2012, 01:23:33 AM

Context needed. He's seems to be even more idiotic this year than normal.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on October 24, 2012, 01:31:02 AM
another in the ridiculous assumptions about a poster department:

That's not good. If it's that close of an election, the Republicans will steal it, especially since they control most of the likely closest states.



You support stealing elections? Nice...

Republicans: willing to do anything to win, no matter how undemocratic, unethical, or unconstitutional.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 01:33:56 PM

Context needed. He's seems to be even more idiotic this year than normal.

He's more realistic than in 2008. He's calling Nevada for Obama, for example, if slightly.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on October 24, 2012, 05:30:17 PM
Well he was always an annoying hack but that doesn't make one a white supremacist. But "war on whites", that's basically straight from Stormfront.

He's also talked about 'white values' or some similar phrase in the past, if memory serves.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on October 24, 2012, 10:13:46 PM
J.J., ...  Even if I don't like what I'm hearing, I keep finding myself amazed at your analysis.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 24, 2012, 10:18:37 PM
King you left out probably the "best" part.

Because you seem really knowledgeable about trends and numbers.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
Guys, Mister Twister is trolling (and masterfully so). That quote belongs in the Comedy Goldmine, not here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on October 25, 2012, 11:11:54 AM
If he does, it better be with another black. Or else he's fixing to be lynched.

In that case, it should be with a hispanic woman, or even the housekeeper.  He needs to keep the Latino vote, and Arnold's popularity is still high. 

He could even admit again to smoking crack cocaine, and it would increase his popularity like Mayor Barry.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 25, 2012, 02:55:07 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 25, 2012, 03:14:11 PM
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Seriously. We have a left-wing CADan I guess? Even including the not-so-subtle racism!

I know it's considered bad form to post a response to your own post in here but... look at this. Just look at it.

Bro, we can't let Sarah Palin win! Forward(TM) with BrObama! Forward(TM) with Simpson-Bowles!  Most pwogwessive pwesident ever!!! Wants bros to marry each other!

Good Lord you're insufferable.

What's insufferable is the usual women-bashing and/or vapid memes being trotted out, the opportunity cost of which is discussing the austerity BrObama will inflict during his second imperial term. Had them figured out five years ago: Just as right-wing on punishing the poorest 99+% supposedly to balance a meaningless accounting identity (which isn't the intention anyway, just to redistribute wealth upward) but deriving their libewal/pwogwessive cred by assuming "culturally" transgressive affectations. Romney would be an all-too-obvious villain for handing Social Security to the banksters, droning civilians into red mist, normalizing/expanding/usurping executive power, retroactively legalizing foreclosure fraud, normalizing (8% nominal / 20% real DISemployment), and approving reckless resource extractions for his bankster bros to speculate on. Better to pick someone who can hide behind identity "politics." And they really hate ambitious women ...

If anyone has any doubt about Obie's second term policy objectives and/or cares about the implementation of austerity, all they need to do is google his Hamilton Project speech from 2006. The guy was handpicked to privatize* SS/Medicare under the pretext of "fiscal prudence" - and his bros [paper towel, Jon Stewart?] are completely in favor of all the imperialism and austerity.

* Privatize, not cut, because like Shrub's/Pinochet's/Ray-gun's approach, it's about "shock-and-awe" responses in the face of ["]crisis["] - "fiscal cliff" included.

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on October 25, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
I don't think this guy actually knows what a bro is. Clearly he doesn't attend UMass.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on October 25, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
Hopefully, state rights will have been eliminated in 10 years.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 25, 2012, 04:27:29 PM

oh no please god no


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on October 25, 2012, 05:24:48 PM
Not every country is like America. To most people, they really don't understand the idea of states rights.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on October 25, 2012, 07:04:30 PM

Considering that the idea of so-called "states rights" has almost always been used as an excuse to curtail the rights of actual people... I'd call it a Freedom Post myself.

Along those same lines...

Luckily the white majority in America is rapidly decreasing. Europe will soon be the only place in the world with large white majorities, and that's a socialist hell to white supremacist Republicans so they can't even flee there! Finally they'll feel the misery they've inflicted on others for generations.

Yes sorry for pretty much all the advancements in science, technology, and medicine. Damn those white people. We should've been putting bones through our noses and coloring our hair with cow urine the whole time


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on October 25, 2012, 07:11:44 PM
Luckily the white majority in America is rapidly decreasing. Europe will soon be the only place in the world with large white majorities, and that's a socialist hell to white supremacist Republicans so they can't even flee there! Finally they'll feel the misery they've inflicted on others for generations.

Yes sorry for pretty much all the advancements in science, technology, and medicine. Damn those white people. We should've been putting bones through our noses and coloring our hair with cow urine the whole time

goodness, both those posts are atrocious.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on October 25, 2012, 07:18:00 PM

oh yes please God yes


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on October 26, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
Hopefully Obama drags her corrupt, plastic ass over the finish line

But if she really does have these ethical problems, Andrew Cuomo might strip her of Senatorial duties

Yes folks, the governor of New York can kick Shelly Berkely of Nevada out of the Senate.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 26, 2012, 07:29:33 AM
i uh
what


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
Another hilarious Mister Twister post that was accidentally placed here instead of the comedy goldmine.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 26, 2012, 04:21:58 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: BM on October 26, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Luckily the white majority in America is rapidly decreasing. Europe will soon be the only place in the world with large white majorities, and that's a socialist hell to white supremacist Republicans so they can't even flee there! Finally they'll feel the misery they've inflicted on others for generations.

Yes sorry for pretty much all the advancements in science, technology, and medicine. Damn those white people. We should've been putting bones through our noses and coloring our hair with cow urine the whole time

goodness, both those posts are atrocious.
Equating what I said (which is mostly true) to a "bones through noses" comment? Wow.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on October 26, 2012, 04:43:35 PM

This deserves to be double posted.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 26, 2012, 04:46:10 PM

Obviously was a joke but yakno


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on October 26, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
Democrat, voting for Obama because I hate Mitt Romney more than any other person who has ever existed.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Insula Dei on October 26, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Democrat, voting for Obama because I hate Mitt Romney more than any other person who has ever existed.

Yeah, he obviously forgot about Chris Christie for a moment. That's pretty tough to forgive.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 26, 2012, 05:33:19 PM
I think that anyone who doesn't like Ayn Rand has anti-Semitic tendencies. 

She's one of the most popular Jewish writers in history.

Democrat, voting for Obama because I hate Mitt Romney more than any other person who has ever existed.

It's true.  I hate everything about him, and on a personal level I want him to fail.  He is scum, and deserves what scum deserves.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 26, 2012, 05:46:20 PM
Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on October 26, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
Mitt Romney appears to be a pretty sick human being, indeed. That post was only slightly hyperbolic.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on October 26, 2012, 10:31:57 PM
The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.

Anybody that read that knew what I meant. That after the adjustment it's essentially a tied poll. Don't read more into things than are there for only the purpose of trying to hit at me. Especially considering how much stuff you've written that could fill this thread(a lot easier for me to do to you than you to me).

Also since there is likely crossover(Dem's finding Ryan winner and GOP finding Biden winner) the net affect of the shift would actually be less than 5 which means if you really wanted to be a stickler my math is probably very accurate(even in some weird universe where you can somehow predict what the exact sample should have looked like given the polls exact methodology).

A D+3 sample would've meant Ryan losing by one, not a tie. Your snidely castigating Griffin for "apparently not being able to do math", then immediately thereafter failing at basic arithmetic yourself, solidly warranted you post's inclusion here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 26, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing

Oh definitely.  My hatred for Romney is at a personal level.  I think he is human scum, the crystallized scum that lines the toilet bowl.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on October 27, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
a) I doubt you meant that for me...

b) this was before the GOP lurched into a psychiatric ward and had a brilliant record on Civil Rights.

Okay, what their recent terrible record?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on October 27, 2012, 04:58:33 AM
J.J. should really just start posting directly into this thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: hawkeye59 on October 27, 2012, 09:20:40 AM
Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing

Oh definitely.  My hatred for Romney is at a personal level.  I think he is human scum, the crystallized scum that lines the toilet bowl.
Perhaps, but unlike what I think about Paul Ryan, I don't want to punch Mitt Romney in the face.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 27, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing

Oh definitely.  My hatred for Romney is at a personal level.  I think he is human scum, the crystallized scum that lines the toilet bowl.
Perhaps, but unlike what I think about Paul Ryan, I don't want to punch Mitt Romney in the face.
Me neither. Neither of them, too.

Would feel like I'd never get the grease off my palm.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 27, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
I do not need to do this. I am voting for one of His followers and chosen representatives on Earth over the follower of a false prophet and false church and his atheist-worshipping running mate.

Trying way too hard.


Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing

Oh definitely.  My hatred for Romney is at a personal level.  I think he is human scum, the crystallized scum that lines the toilet bowl.
Perhaps, but unlike what I think about Paul Ryan, I don't want to punch Mitt Romney in the face.
Me neither. Neither of them, too.

Would feel like I'd never get the grease off my palm.

If you're worried about your palm, you'd be doing it wrong, anyway.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 27, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
I think that's the first post ever double posted here and the Good Post Gallery.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on October 27, 2012, 01:22:44 PM
I'm probably falling for trollbait here considering the source, but oh well -

I would not contend that the primarily white far left, as is sadly prevalent here, does not hold a degree of self-resentment and wishes to engage in a morbid self-flagellation through things like condoning gang culture, single motherhood, affirmative action, historical revisionism, anti-Westernism, Native American and/or Latino nationalism, etc, etc.

These sort of things might be construed as a "war on whites" as a whole, yes. But are Barack Obama or the mainstream Democratic Party engaging in such efforts? I don't think so- not yet, at least.

When the younger left that holds these views comes into the political sphere, more Lena Dunhams and Lincoln Restlers and Occupiers come of age, then yes, I think we can say such a thing is happening. I have good friends, great people, great arguers, but their politics are just mortifying.

Today's politicians, shall find themselves asked whether or not they are "with" this latest bout of progressivism. Being as they are, most will likely say yes- lest they find themselves derided as "reactionary". (With the Soviet Union and its brutal reality fading into the pages of history, I think this latest generation is less afraid to find Marxian thought valid and use its terminology)

Just look at Jimmy Carter's contortions, for one thing. Does anyone truly believe this Georgia Democrat could have ever endorsed 'homosexual marriage"? Likewise, we shall one day see Barack Obama endorse the latest left-wing fad.

So does this make me racist? Well, we've had this discussion before. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=159971.25)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on October 27, 2012, 01:44:23 PM
Simfan, when you become  as old and desiccated as I am, perhaps you will be a tad more suspicious of grand unified theories such as the one above, while chaos theory (yes, there are still patterns buried in there) becomes ever more compelling.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 27, 2012, 11:09:25 PM
Single women want Barry Obama as their boyfriend, get it?

They want to have the sex with the Barry because he is younger than Mitt, and is hot with his shirt off, and has a nice big smile. 

Impressive cognitive dissonance there. I seem to recall you saying the same thing (but in a decidedly more positive tone) about Paul Ryan.

Single women only vote for the candidate they are most attracted too.  Paul Ryan's abs will attract a lot of female voters and it seems to be working so far.  Many catholic women find Paul Ryan attractive.  Even male Democrats vote for Obama because they find him attractive, like Chris Matthews and the thrill up his leg. 

But this ad is clearly implying that Young Women should want to sleep with Obama as their first time; and it will be just as good as if it were voting for him.  Obama is not a politician, he's a male sex symbol. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on October 28, 2012, 05:20:43 AM
I do not need to do this. I am voting for one of His followers and chosen representatives on Earth over the follower of a false prophet and false church and his atheist-worshipping running mate.

Trying way too hard.


Surely there are politicians you agree with less, considering you and Romney share that whole foreign policy hawk thing

Oh definitely.  My hatred for Romney is at a personal level.  I think he is human scum, the crystallized scum that lines the toilet bowl.
Perhaps, but unlike what I think about Paul Ryan, I don't want to punch Mitt Romney in the face.
Me neither. Neither of them, too.

Would feel like I'd never get the grease off my palm.

If you're worried about your palm, you'd be doing it wrong, anyway.
It would ooze through between the knuckles. Yuck.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Wonkish1 on October 28, 2012, 02:56:43 PM
The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.

Anybody that read that knew what I meant. That after the adjustment it's essentially a tied poll. Don't read more into things than are there for only the purpose of trying to hit at me. Especially considering how much stuff you've written that could fill this thread(a lot easier for me to do to you than you to me).

Also since there is likely crossover(Dem's finding Ryan winner and GOP finding Biden winner) the net affect of the shift would actually be less than 5 which means if you really wanted to be a stickler my math is probably very accurate(even in some weird universe where you can somehow predict what the exact sample should have looked like given the polls exact methodology).

A D+3 sample would've meant Ryan losing by one, not a tie. Your snidely castigating Griffin for "apparently not being able to do math", then immediately thereafter failing at basic arithmetic yourself, solidly warranted you post's inclusion here.

^^^This comment deserves to be here.

Equating someone who assesses 2 margin of errors adjustments to move a poll result in a completely different direction to someone that is looking at one margin of error and saying its essentially tied for being 1 pt off an exact tie, is just dumb.

I wouldn't expect a person who exactly fits the creation of this thread to understand this distinction though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 28, 2012, 03:01:55 PM
I'm glad that you're posting directly into this thread, W1.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Wonkish1 on October 28, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
I'm glad that you're posting directly into this thread, W1.

I'm glad you post at all. It gives some of us something to read when we're interested in some laughs.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 28, 2012, 03:48:25 PM
Jesus Christ, both of you. Not the point of the thread.

This, on the other hand... (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=162914.0)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on October 28, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Democrat, voting for Obama because I hate Mitt Romney more than any other person who has ever existed.

It's true.  I hate everything about him, and on a personal level I want him to fail.  He is scum, and deserves what scum deserves.

I hate Mitt Romney more than any other person who has ever existed.

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 28, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
Yes, I recognize it's irrational.  Doesn't matter.  I still hate him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on October 28, 2012, 09:02:34 PM

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on October 28, 2012, 11:41:42 PM
I know I should respect peoples opinions but....

Assuming this is true, then Romney winning is much more important than anyone realized.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 29, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
God bless the staff of Obama's 300+ Ohio offices, who are indeed serving the Lord and are assisting us in a victory to help us take America for Jesus Christ.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on October 29, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
I don't understand this. They say that the most important issue for them is Create more jobs/Fix the economy 54%. Yet, they still support Obama who is never going to create a single job/fix the economy.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 29, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
I see the left is in full bash Rasmussen mode. Rasmussen now shows, state by state,  Romney winning [McCain+IN,NC,FL,VA,OH, CO, and NH] with WI and IA in play. His swing state tracker, and national poll has implied this fact for some number of days.

For all the bluster about Rasmussen having a "house effect" for the Republicans, the reality is that it is the polling industry that shows a "house effect" for the Democrats. Obama came nowhere near his final RCP average. Given how heavily Ohio has been polled, it is converging to the industry consensus. Subtract the industry "house effect" for Democrats, and Ohio is lean Romney, or tied. So much for the Ohio firewall BS.

On the other hand, Rasmussen called Obama's final margin within one point. Go ahead and deny facts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 29, 2012, 02:18:51 PM
These fresh polls quite clearly show that Barack Obama has attacked his own religion as well as the people's values.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on October 30, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
Fantastic news that the working class in at least one state is beginning to catch on that capitalism is slavery.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 30, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
Obama, is the president, so he's doing what he's supposed to do, what's he doing so far, I guess is making sure things run smoothly; but folks are gonna start bitching when they don't have there power back in 2-3 days, then they will become the epitomes of grouches, and Obama because he's the incumbent get's in the neck, which is okay with this contributor: the best from Obama's point of view, it's a wash, the worst, he start's to hemorrhage in the polls, because let's face it, he's a hopeless case.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on October 30, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Aw! I was right, Michigan is a case in point, Obama is facing a meltdown and he's trying to staunch the bleeding, the toss-up state pool is expanding, what does that suggest? Obama in trouble, yeah big time! especially if he's trying to hold one of his base state's - now is that news or what?; when was Michigan and Romney mentioned in the same sentence? Oh yeah when he won the primary; but whatever spin Obama or his campaign put's on this latest development, it underline's an overriding narrative, Obama is on defense, trying to hold his base together, not a good place to be I might add: Oh yeah, Romney wins both Florida and Michigan on November 6th. You heard it here first!
I was going to bold the bad parts, but I realized all that would accomplish is just one bolded paragraph.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 30, 2012, 06:52:03 PM
Aw! I was right, Michigan is a case in point, Obama is facing a meltdown and he's trying to staunch the bleeding, the toss-up state pool is expanding, what does that suggest? Obama in trouble, yeah big time! especially if he's trying to hold one of his base state's - now is that news or what?; when was Michigan and Romney mentioned in the same sentence? Oh yeah when he won the primary; but whatever spin Obama or his campaign put's on this latest development, it underline's an overriding narrative, Obama is on defense, trying to hold his base together, not a good place to be I might add: Oh yeah, Romney wins both Florida and Michigan on November 6th. You heard it here first!
I was going to bold the bad parts, but I realized all that would accomplish is just one bolded paragraph.

So then, the 7% undecideds are Obama's as well? Yeah right! There is one factor you have forgotten, undecideds as a rule break for the challenger, so by your calculation 48% for Obama and if this rule applies, Romney pulls in 52% on Election day.

Is this guy new?  because he's on a roll!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 30, 2012, 10:42:06 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on October 31, 2012, 02:00:39 AM

I think even J.J. might have a better track record.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 5280 on October 31, 2012, 11:17:57 AM
One of the basic rules of the internet is to judge a person based on their sig. Since your sig is stupid and wrong, that means you as a person are stupid and wrong.

No, they're not correlated.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 31, 2012, 11:53:44 AM
One of the basic rules of the internet is to judge a person based on their sig. Since your sig is stupid and wrong, that means you as a person are stupid and wrong.

No, they're not correlated.

You would say that...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on October 31, 2012, 11:57:14 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=163318.0

Kal's non-stop rolling does deserve special trolling recognition on occasion.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 01, 2012, 12:42:34 PM
I wonder if this will have any effect on Latino voters defecting to Republicans like Romney.  Latino voters and Latin women are devout Catholics, and a cheating Latin man will turn off a lot of Latin women. 

This pretty much ruins any chances Menendez had at getting the VP nod in 2016.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 01, 2012, 02:47:35 PM
Do sigs count here?
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 08:02:18 PM
In which noted climatologist J.J. argues that Hurricane Sandy was just a run of the mill nor'easter:

What you are missing is that Bloomberg will help in South Florida, and likely with the suburban moderates in NOVA and Denver as well.

If he had made it about Israel, possibly, it would help in FL.  It was about global warming. 

Moderates in NOVA and Denver, only big environmentalists, and Obama has their vote already.

Educated suburban moderates almost universally accept climate change.  I'm surprised Obama hasn't campaigned on it at all in VA and CO.  It is an opportunity to make Romney look anti-science to people who might otherwise be R on fiscal issues.

And, if they are educated, they would realize that a nor'easter is not uncommon.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on November 01, 2012, 08:14:38 PM
In which noted climatologist J.J. argues that Hurricane Sandy was just a run of the mill nor'easter:

What you are missing is that Bloomberg will help in South Florida, and likely with the suburban moderates in NOVA and Denver as well.

If he had made it about Israel, possibly, it would help in FL.  It was about global warming. 

Moderates in NOVA and Denver, only big environmentalists, and Obama has their vote already.

Educated suburban moderates almost universally accept climate change.  I'm surprised Obama hasn't campaigned on it at all in VA and CO.  It is an opportunity to make Romney look anti-science to people who might otherwise be R on fiscal issues.

And, if they are educated, they would realize that a nor'easter is not uncommon.

Being without power for 3 days from that common Noreaster caused me to miss the rest of Professor J.J.'s lecture on Advanced infantry tactics to retake a consulate compound. Do you think they have a recording of the lecture at the lab? I hear it was co-lectured with the modern day Hannibal, Professor Cliffy...




Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 02, 2012, 01:43:33 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9648;sa=showPosts

What the [inks]?!?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 02, 2012, 02:03:06 AM
Someone's drunk and thought it would be funny to make a sock.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on November 02, 2012, 02:10:42 AM
I'm having fun with him. 遊びだけですわ~


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 02, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
As am I. I'll admit to having invented part of it, and it's the most exciting part too. :(


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on November 02, 2012, 03:21:16 AM
Simfan, you need to start getting drunk and having fun with your socks.  Srsly bro.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 02, 2012, 10:46:13 AM
I wonder if this will have any effect on Latino voters defecting to Republicans like Romney.  Latino voters and Latin women are devout Catholics, and a cheating Latin man will turn off a lot of Latin women. 

This pretty much ruins any chances Menendez had at getting the VP nod in 2016.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 02, 2012, 02:28:48 PM
Hillary's political career is over after Benghazi.

Cuomo would be your best bet, I really think Bloomberg will make a switch and go after it too.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 03, 2012, 10:55:22 AM
Can you list specifics of these policies that constituted a 'war on whites', and elaborate on how they constituted one?


I suspect that some of those policies included free cash for the teachers unions, free cash for the autoworkers unions, an attempt at free cash for the environmentalists, free cash for these green energy lobbying companies, and free cash for the recipients of the explosion in welfare spending.

Meanwhile, married Joes and Janes in the 53% felt that such was not consistent with their ideals of government and they would have to pay for all that stuff. And, the San Francisco social agenda was not consistent with their faith. Thus, whites had to flee to the Republican party to get the draconian spending cuts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 03, 2012, 10:11:57 PM
In response to a story being reported by an Arab news outlet

Yes Obama is losing, if he's pulling this card, quick where's that cute pic of the grasping at straws thing....

Here ya go, Cliffy, you've earned this

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 03, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
here are my political views

Abortion:Leave the way it is.

Gay Rights:I oppose Civil Unions & Gay Marriage & Domestic Partnerships. And i oppose Adoption Rights & Hospital vists & all rights. My plan is to restore our policy on gays that we had in the 60s and 70s.

Environment:Global warming is fake & gay i hate it repeal all environmental legislation abolish the EPA and Drill baby drill open up all areas for drilling.

Israel & Palestine:I hate Both of them we need to help Palestine and kick out the Israelis like David Duke say but next we kick out the palestnians and we take over & make that area our 52nd state.

Patriot Act:I fully support for everybody but whites.

Campaign finance:I support at a national level however at local levels it is the states choices

Death Penalty:Strongly Strongly Strongly Strongly Support Expand & Make Bigger

School System:Let each state make there own laws on education

States rights:I am 100% for states rights if a State wants to get out of america okey go for it i support states rights over the federal government BY FAR

Healthcare:No Universal or Healthcare Reform. Cut Medicare and Medicade to if someone wants Healthcare go to your church for that or a private doctor which you pay for no government health care at all.

NSA:I want to X the funding of NSA by 10 we need to colonize saturn & mars.

Taxes:A 10% flat tax is the way to go. But if states want to change this then they can. Ether they create there own Tax plan or follow the national. Generally state by state but i believe 10% flat tax is the only smart way progressive tax is gay & dume.

Social Secuirty:This is dume & stupid if you benifits go to a church or your local group.

Welfare:let each state create there own welfare plans no federal government involovement each state makes there plans.

Washington DC:I support DCS state right so we can move blacks from Virginia there.

Miltary:We need more money support our troops we need more money going to the trops.

Immigrants:Ban all immigrants all of them and kick out all minorties america needs to be white only just whites.

Affirmative Action:simple kick out all the blacks,jews,mexicans and make america what it is a all white nation problem solved.

Corperate Tax rate: 5% tax


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 05, 2012, 06:49:01 PM
Happier than ever to be a homosexual backing Romney.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on November 05, 2012, 06:54:09 PM

That's not absurd, ignorant or bad.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on November 05, 2012, 08:58:42 PM

I'd say that it's kind of the first but not the second and only arguably the third.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 05, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 05, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 05, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with the public schools I've gone to and rarely do I hear talk of sending someone's kids to them to be more of a 'gamble' than if the child learns in any other type of school, so the remark came off as weird to me.  I see no reason why someone can't learn the traditional curriculum in public school alongside religious studies privately and I really don't have a problem if someone goes to either a public or private school, as long as the science curriculum isn't modified so that students are taught certain things which, quite simply, can't be backed scientifically.

If I find a post absurd, I put it here.  What constitutes as absurd varies by individual.  But if we have to be politically correct about everything, maybe next time I'll post them in the Comedy Goldmine or something like that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 05, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with the public schools I've gone to and rarely do I hear talk of sending someone's kids to them to be more of a 'gamble' than if the child learns in any other type of school, so the remark came off as weird to me.  I see no reason why someone can't learn the traditional curriculum in public school alongside religious studies privately and I really don't have a problem if someone goes to either a public or private school, as long as the science curriculum isn't modified so that students are taught certain things which, quite simply, can't be backed scientifically.

If I find a post absurd, I put it here.  What constitutes as absurd varies by individual.  But if we have to be politically correct about everything, maybe next time I'll post them in the Comedy Goldmine or something like that.

When did he say anything about science?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 05, 2012, 10:56:40 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with the public schools I've gone to and rarely do I hear talk of sending someone's kids to them to be more of a 'gamble' than if the child learns in any other type of school, so the remark came off as weird to me.  I see no reason why someone can't learn the traditional curriculum in public school alongside religious studies privately and I really don't have a problem if someone goes to either a public or private school, as long as the science curriculum isn't modified so that students are taught certain things which, quite simply, can't be backed scientifically.

If I find a post absurd, I put it here.  What constitutes as absurd varies by individual.  But if we have to be politically correct about everything, maybe next time I'll post them in the Comedy Goldmine or something like that.

When did he say anything about science?

Not the point.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 05, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with the public schools I've gone to and rarely do I hear talk of sending someone's kids to them to be more of a 'gamble' than if the child learns in any other type of school, so the remark came off as weird to me.  I see no reason why someone can't learn the traditional curriculum in public school alongside religious studies privately and I really don't have a problem if someone goes to either a public or private school, as long as the science curriculum isn't modified so that students are taught certain things which, quite simply, can't be backed scientifically.

If I find a post absurd, I put it here.  What constitutes as absurd varies by individual.  But if we have to be politically correct about everything, maybe next time I'll post them in the Comedy Goldmine or something like that.

When did he say anything about science?

Not the point.

Then what is? You want to prevent him from being able to teach his kids his religious beliefs? Or you want to put him in a situation where he would have his kids potentially being taught two different moralities, one at home and one at school? When you ban religion from everywhere else, you also effectively ban some people from those things as well.

And you don't even need to bother quoting this into the Deluge since it's already here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 05, 2012, 11:43:17 PM
I knew I was gonna get criticized for posting that.

Broadly speaking yes, although I'd dispute some of the specifics. If you're a serious Christian you're taking a serious gamble putting your kids in the public schools. I know I'll be homeschooling mine.

Not sure how one can justify this, though.

Why would that be absurd? I don't agree with it, but why is that in here? Isn't it obvious why he would consider it a gamble to send kids to public schools? The schools aren't allowed to teach Christianity so he likely views the moral code they would be teaching his children to be flawed in some way.

And Scott, why do you post so many things in here that aren't absurd just because you disagree with them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with the public schools I've gone to and rarely do I hear talk of sending someone's kids to them to be more of a 'gamble' than if the child learns in any other type of school, so the remark came off as weird to me.  I see no reason why someone can't learn the traditional curriculum in public school alongside religious studies privately and I really don't have a problem if someone goes to either a public or private school, as long as the science curriculum isn't modified so that students are taught certain things which, quite simply, can't be backed scientifically.

If I find a post absurd, I put it here.  What constitutes as absurd varies by individual.  But if we have to be politically correct about everything, maybe next time I'll post them in the Comedy Goldmine or something like that.

When did he say anything about science?

Not the point.

Then what is? You want to prevent him from being able to teach his kids his religious beliefs? Or you want to put him in a situation where he would have his kids potentially being taught two different moralities, one at home and one at school? When you ban religion from everywhere else, you also effectively ban some people from those things as well.

And you don't even need to bother quoting this into the Deluge since it's already here.

TJ, I'm surprised at you.  I've never seen a post strawmanned so brutally.  I just said I don't have a problem whether parents send their kids to public or private schools and I especially don't have a problem with parents teaching morality to them.  However, fearing public schools on the basis that 'it's a gamble' is highly irrational (as you seem to agree, somewhat) just as it would be to fear private schools for carrying any potential risks.  Banning religion?  What?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on November 08, 2012, 07:05:37 AM
Scott, for many people ethics should not be something compartmentalized but something that is part of the whole day.  Sending your kids to a public school where there is no 'one true religion' would be exposing your kids a different set of values if you were one of those for whom the first question in deciding whether something is moral is "Does my god approve?" rather than "Does this hurt others?"  While in most cases the two questions will lead to the same definitions of right and wrong, it doesn't always do so.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 08, 2012, 10:09:10 PM
Scott, for many people ethics should not be something compartmentalized but something that is part of the whole day.  Sending your kids to a public school where there is no 'one true religion' would be exposing your kids a different set of values if you were one of those for whom the first question in deciding whether something is moral is "Does my god approve?" rather than "Does this hurt others?"  While in most cases the two questions will lead to the same definitions of right and wrong, it doesn't always do so.

Kids are going to be exposed to various religious and moral viewpoints throughout life, and the school a person goes to doesn't change that.  Learning ethics which do not exclusively stem from religious teachings doesn't make the experience of public schooling any more of a "gamble," nor should it make religious ethics any less valid, either.  If, for a religious person, applying the wisdom of both those questions to moral concepts isn't ideal, then you've lost me there.  The only gamble that exists is one that's imagined, and to suggest that it's just "serious Christians" taking any kind of risk is downright absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on November 09, 2012, 05:48:09 AM
Scott, for many people ethics should not be something compartmentalized but something that is part of the whole day.  Sending your kids to a public school where there is no 'one true religion' would be exposing your kids a different set of values if you were one of those for whom the first question in deciding whether something is moral is "Does my god approve?" rather than "Does this hurt others?"  While in most cases the two questions will lead to the same definitions of right and wrong, it doesn't always do so.

Kids are going to be exposed to various religious and moral viewpoints throughout life, and the school a person goes to doesn't change that.  Learning ethics which do not exclusively stem from religious teachings doesn't make the experience of public schooling any more of a "gamble," nor should it make religious ethics any less valid, either.  If, for a religious person, applying the wisdom of both those questions to moral concepts isn't ideal, then you've lost me there.  The only gamble that exists is one that's imagined, and to suggest that it's just "serious Christians" taking any kind of risk is downright absurd.

The reason why there is for some religious a disconnect between the two queries is that the question used in the secular framing of morality "Does this hurt others?" suffers from the problem of who defines what hurts? For example, an addict would say being deprived of his fix would hurt, even as what he is addicted to is killing him.  While many on this board would disagree, for those who view homosexuality as a sin, they see it as an addiction that needs to be fought, not a lifestyle choice to be accepted or embraced.

Those religious people who are worried about the public schools see various activities that secular culture is either embracing or tolerating as sins that they are worried about their kids getting hooked on.  Their solution is to wall themselves off from the contagion of the immoral society around them, confident that in the end they and their progeny will be rewarded by their god for following the one true path of defining right or wrong not by perceptions of imperfect humanity, but of a perfect deity.

I agree that walling yourself off from the world is not a good solution, but it is one that quite a few religious people follow, and not just those who are Christian, which is why I've tried to express myself in this thread is as pantheistic a manner as I can.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 09, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
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The Republicans lost their last window of opportunity to repeal it last night.  The thing with major healthcare legislation is it's next to impossible to repeal it once it's fully implemented.  See Social Security and Medicare, both programs the GOP was adamantly against when they were first introduced.

And who is going to pay for it? The money simply isn't there. What happens when Social security and medicare go bankrupt?

Ben, you cannot reason with today's liberals. They have been brainwashed into believing the world only consists of benefits, not costs and benefits. They believe they can have perpetual excess consumption without matching production. They believe the world owes them a living. The list goes on and on. Hell, most of the people who voted for Obama would fail a financial literacy test. Many of them can barely read "Obama," let alone comprehend the concept of cost-benefit analysis.

It is not the fault of young people, though. They were brainwashed in the cradle and classroom, and most of them will remain brainwashed until they hit the grave. If you want to blame somebody, blame the National Education Association, communists in academia, Ted Kennedy for the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, and woeful parents.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 09, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CountryRoads on November 10, 2012, 12:30:59 AM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.

lolwut


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 10, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Freedom area despite its uber-liberalism.

Click for context.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on November 10, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.

Why do some people need smileys to understand something was posted as humor?  As I said in the Goldmine when I posted this same post there, if Politico (or J.J.) had posted this then it would belong here, but I'm certain Winfield meant it as humor.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on November 10, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.

Why do some people need smileys to understand something was posted as humor?  As I said in the Goldmine when I posted this same post there, if Politico (or J.J.) had posted this then it would belong here, but I'm certain Winfield meant it as humor.

Personally, considering Winnie's posting history, I'm not entirely sure.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on November 11, 2012, 02:08:23 PM

Context.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on November 11, 2012, 02:20:57 PM

I don't get it...?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on November 11, 2012, 02:29:16 PM

He's being a Republican hack; saying the guy's a massive FF because, you know, he's a Republican (he was also a Progressive, a supporter of La Follette, an isolationist, passed the Norris-La Guardia Act, very pro-New Deal, and eventually left the Republicans; all things Oldies, so far as I know, doesn't agree with).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on November 11, 2012, 02:31:26 PM

He's being a Republican hack; saying the guy's a massive FF because, you know, he's a Republican (he was also a Progressive, a supporter of La Follette, an isolationist, passed the Norris-La Guardia Act, very pro-New Deal, and eventually left the Republicans; all things Oldies, so far as I know, doesn't agree with).

Of course it's funny that this is coming from Oldiesfreak, but it's hardly absurd or ign-- oh.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on November 11, 2012, 03:22:57 PM
Academia is overrun with communists, closeted or otherwise. Many cohorts of various backgrounds have essentially been brainwashed as a result. It's time for numerous groups to start cracking down on those who are cracking down on America with their dangerous ideology that is destroying the very fabric of society. We know what they are up to. Even Democrats like me who love America know the score. We love America, and will not allow communists to destroy it. It is past the point of saying, "bite the hand that feeds you at your own peril." If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.

That's all, ladies and gentlemen.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on November 11, 2012, 04:22:25 PM
Politico is a Democrat................You learn something new every day.

That's more like accepting lies as fact.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 11, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
my story is much like Sheldon Adelson's


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lincoln Republican on November 11, 2012, 11:02:53 PM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.

Why do some people need smileys to understand something was posted as humor?  As I said in the Goldmine when I posted this same post there, if Politico (or J.J.) had posted this then it would belong here, but I'm certain Winfield meant it as humor.

You would be correct Ernest.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on November 13, 2012, 04:05:08 AM
Now, let's hope that Paul Ryan's career will follow the same trajectory as that of John Edwards. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on November 13, 2012, 06:10:22 AM
Now, let's hope that Paul Ryan's career will follow the same trajectory as that of John Edwards. 
:( The poor woman that will have to sleep with him. :(


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 13, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
Obama doesn't want Romney in his cabinet.

He is waiting for Ginsburg to resign so he can appoint Romney to the Supreme Court.  Romney does have a law degree as well as an MBA from Harvard after all.

Why do some people need smileys to understand something was posted as humor?  As I said in the Goldmine when I posted this same post there, if Politico (or J.J.) had posted this then it would belong here, but I'm certain Winfield meant it as humor.

Personally, considering Winnie's posting history, I'm not entirely sure.

Right, Badg....the dude has zero sense of humor.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 15, 2012, 12:02:15 PM
My official prediction of the 2012 Presidential Election was a close race with President Obama coming out as the victor. My official prediction was 74.1% accurate, not as accurate as my 83.0% accuracy during the 2004 Presidential race. That year, I only failed to predict John Kerry's winning Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes, which I thought would slip to President Bush when in actuality George Bush came up 11,384 votes short.

So, were the results of Obama vs. Romney a shock to me? Not at all. As a matter of fact, I foresaw Romney's pending defeat, and even sent a solemn text message to our very own Keystone Phil around 11:30pm that night saying, "Romney needs to concede, Now." to which Phil seemed surprised. I don't know why. I am NOT a hack. I am a straight shooter. I tell it the way it is. If you can understand that about me, then you can begin to respect my predictions and analysis of elections and current event topics.

Since the election, Democrats have been gloating about their new lock on the electoral college, and how Republicans are a hopeless party doomed to repeat failure over the coming election cycles. In some respects, they are correct. Republicans, whether it be the anti-Obama voters, the Tea Party, the establishment, the evangelicals or even the "Chick-fil-A" crowd, purely and simply did not turn out in the numbers many, even myself, had anticipated. The fact that John McCain's disastrous campaign which culminated with a terrible economic collapse with the incumbent party in the White House with a 30% or lower approval rating received a greater share of popular votes than Governor Mitt Romney shows how many people purely and simply stayed home.

Now, before we begin the recrimination, let me make clear that Governor Romney, who I enthusiastically supported and persuaded several Obama 2008 voters and/or first time voters to cast their ballots for, was not at all my first choice for the nomination. As a matter of fact, I voted for Senator Rick Santorum in the Ohio primary. As did my father. I also would tend to suspect our very own Keystone Phil cast his Pennsylvania primary ballot for Senator Santorum. My choices became narrower and narrower as the primary race went on. The CEO of Godfather's Pizza with infidelity problems? NO. A congresswoman from Minnesota who had solid conservative credentials but came across too extreme for the mainstream and sort-of Palin-esque? NO. The Governor of Texas with a solid conservative record? YES...until you find out that he's more Bruce Dern than John Wayne. The former Speaker of the House of Representatives with a tarnished past who has an ego big enough for several planets to orbit? NO. The former Governor of Massachusetts who can be painted as out of touch and has changed positions multiple times? NO.

With Senator Santorum, I found that his one major flaw was that he was soundly defeated for re-election during the Democratic tidal wave of 2006 in the Democrat-leaning state of Pennsylvania. Losing an election is hardly as terrible as flip-flopping or a tarnished personal problem. Indeed, I came to the same conclusion that my father did. As we both walked out of the voting booth on the afternoon of the Ohio Primary, we confided in each other that we had voted for Santorum to "contrast better" with Barack Obama. That lack of contrast between Obama and Romney, severely evident in the third and final Presidential debate, was critical to have in a society which may be more open to a semi-socialistic viewpoint that the Obama/Biden 2012 campaign pushed forward during this election.

Aaron Goldstein, the Canadian-born Socialist-turned Conservative writer for the American Spectator wrote an outstanding article in the aftermath of the Obama/Romney election in which he basically says that 2012 was the 1980 election all over again...except America has drastically changed in the 32 years since the start of the big-hair punk rock decade.

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In the 1980s, American homes were filled week after week with television shows glorifying conservatism. You had "Family Ties", which aired on NBC from 1982 to 1989. The backdrop of the hit sitcom was that Michael J. Fox's idealistic young character Alex P. Keaton, was a Nixon and Reagan-loving conservative having to deal with his 1960s style hippie parents in their home in the suburbs of Columbus, Ohio. One episode in particular was fitting for the times when Mallory Keaton introduced her male friend, "Dad...Alex...this is Jamie Carter" to which Alex leapt into his fathers arms. "Don't worry Alex, she said Jamie Carter...not Jimmy", replied the father, to the audience's delight. Another memorable quote that comes to mind was Alex talking about finding a girl to date and telling his mother that he was going to have to "pick a date off the girl tree." Despondent, she said, "ALEX! The girl tree?" to which he sarcastically replied, "Oh...sorry mom. The woman tree." Again, there was no claim of a fictional "War on Women" or any outcry. In fact, one could claim that the audience, which by the way included the President of the United States, would applaud Alex P. Keaton's sarcastic tone against his liberal mother.

Another popular show, "The A-Team" basically made the protagonists of the show people who could do jobs that the Government was incapable of doing, and the Government was always trying to stop them. This also fit the bill for the Reagan Era's anti-government conservatism.

But the conservatism wasn't always at liberal expense. You would have sitcoms that would air "Very Special Episodes" about the dangers of drugs, drinking and other pressing social issues without resorting to liberalism. Hell, even I myself, born in 1988, remember watching "Just Say No" VHS tapes in grade school a decade after they were made, with Ronald and Nancy Reagan telling kids to say no to drugs and terrifying PSA commercials aired during my Saturday Morning cartoons featuring the dangers of drug use. You remember the PSAs. "Hey Tommy, look what I've got..." as a child held a handful of small white rolled joints with sinister music in the background. Talk about ruining your Saturday bowl of Fruit Loops.

Skip forward nearly 20 years and you now have children watching prime time television shows that glorify drug use. You even have some Americans voting to legalize it. In many ways, it is a victory of liberalism and a nightmare for traditional Americans.

You also, as Aaron Goldstein noted, had many middle aged Americans who grew up under the post-World War II cloud of communism. Japan, Korea, Vietnam, the good old days of the 1950s replaced by the disillusionment of the radical 1960s and 1970s...all the while the Soviet Union was showing off it's military strength. As this was happening, the 20 year old guy firing at German soldiers on French beaches was suddenly a 56 year old American who saw a likable but incompetent President fumbling the ball with the Soviets, having American hostages in Iran, and watching the country they had fought for radically change before their eyes. They were fed up. It didn't matter how likable President Carter was. It didn't matter how good of a speech he might give. The foreign policy failures and the economic recession were simply unacceptable. Nowadays, people were willing to shrug, nod their heads and say, "Oh well, let's keep Barack". It is still difficult to comprehend the change in attitude. It may be a simple case of the 1980 America having more pride than the 2012 America.

As stated earlier, this was the 1980 election. The problem was, it isn't 1980. If it was 1980, and Barack Obama was President and Mitt Romney were the Republican nominee, Romney would have won in a Reagan-style landslide. One important factor often overlooked is that while many people claim conservatism had a firm hold on the American electorate in the eighties, one thing is often forgotten...California. The Republican Party is all but dissolved in the state of California now, but remember, this was a state that Richard Nixon hailed from, and a state from which Ronald Reagan governed. This state held 45 electoral votes in 1972, 1976 and 1980 which were firmly in the Republican column. Had Mitt Romney won California, he would have been just nine votes shy of the White House. But he likely would have won anyways due to the 1980-GOP strongholds of New Jersey, Vermont and Connecticut...states that were Obama Country this year. Also, in 1980, virtually the entire country was contested. You had Reagan campaigning from Michigan to Washington to New York to Florida. In 2012, it basically came down to a handful of states. Most importantly in 2012, there were many less people voting than who voted in elections thirty years ago.

Between Obama and Romney in the state of Ohio, 5,274,423 people cast ballots for either of the two men. Between Carter and Reagan in 1980, 3,958,959 Ohioans cast their ballots for the two men. That's a difference of 1,315,464 people voting in Ohio in 1980 versus 2012. Of course, in 32 years, many things change but one of them is higher turnout for obvious reasons. In 1980, you might see a TV ad for Reagan or hear a radio ad for Carter, perhaps read a newspaper endorsement and hear about the campaign every night on local and national news. But this year, you can't even click on YouTube to listen to a song or watch a video without an ad for the candidates popping up. You can't go onto a website to find school supplies for your children without having an Obama-Biden ad pop up, or do to a fishing website and have an automatic talking Romney on your screen. It's everywhere. For those who have followed politics most of our lives as if it were in the bloodstream, we would vote no matter what. However, in the 1980 electorate...or even as recently as the 2000 electorate...many average American citizens simply didn't care. Nowadays, they want to be involved. Even if they have no idea the difference between being a Governor in your state capitol or being a Senator in Washington, D.C. representing your state, they still want their voices to be heard. That's America. That's the American way.

Nevertheless, conservatism lives on. We will be back. I'm glad because in my heart, I know it's right. I know traditional America lives on. I may not fit in with many my age, but I know what I believe. Why that is, I'll never know. Perhaps...just perhaps... I was raised too similar to the children of half a century ago.

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God Bless America
Reaganfan



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 15, 2012, 12:55:56 PM
BRTD beat me to it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on November 15, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on November 15, 2012, 01:20:56 PM
This was Alfred while I left to print something


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Yelnoc on November 15, 2012, 03:24:41 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 15, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Vegetaboi assembles a WTF-worthy "dream cabinet":

Candidates that I like alot and I would put into my Cabinet would be.

Bernie Sanders
Buddy Roemer
Russ Feingold
Virgil Goode
Ross Perot
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Pat Buchanan
Dennis Kucinich
Michael Steele
Dennis Kucinich
Ralph Nader
Joe Biden
Sherrod Brown
Joe Donnelly
Jesse Jackson
Jill Stein
Herman Cain
Rocky Anderson
Charlie Christ


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 15, 2012, 08:26:01 PM

Doubt it would be that bad.  Would be 1964 worst case, and I think that's still pushing it.  Maybe 1996.

Judging from the Republican primaries and if the Republican establishment will not sabotage his campaign, Ron Paul can carry all the traditional Republican (Blue) states (the lesser of the 2 evil arguments still can apply and the main stream Rep voters would go with Paul).

Besides that, Paul will carry Nevada, with a strong Libertarian leaning and very well organized base. Also, NH and VI would vote for Paul also, as shown in the Republican primaries.  Even a district in Maine.  Paul really is more accepted than the media and the establishment parties wants people to believe.  I think if he had run against Obama, it would been an easy victory for the Republicans.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 15, 2012, 08:33:10 PM

Doubt it would be that bad.  Would be 1964 worst case, and I think that's still pushing it.  Maybe 1996.

Judging from the Republican primaries and if the Republican establishment will not sabotage his campaign, Ron Paul can carry all the traditional Republican (Blue) states (the lesser of the 2 evil arguments still can apply and the main stream Rep voters would go with Paul).

Besides that, Paul will carry Nevada, with a strong Libertarian leaning and very well organized base. Also, NH and VI would vote for Paul also, as shown in the Republican primaries.  Even a district in Maine.  Paul really is more accepted than the media and the establishment parties wants people to believe.  I think if he had run against Obama, it would been an easy victory for the Republicans.
Easy? Not at all. Victory? 50% chance of that happening.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 15, 2012, 08:38:58 PM

Doubt it would be that bad.  Would be 1964 worst case, and I think that's still pushing it.  Maybe 1996.

Judging from the Republican primaries and if the Republican establishment will not sabotage his campaign, Ron Paul can carry all the traditional Republican (Blue) states (the lesser of the 2 evil arguments still can apply and the main stream Rep voters would go with Paul).

Besides that, Paul will carry Nevada, with a strong Libertarian leaning and very well organized base. Also, NH and VI would vote for Paul also, as shown in the Republican primaries.  Even a district in Maine.  Paul really is more accepted than the media and the establishment parties wants people to believe.  I think if he had run against Obama, it would been an easy victory for the Republicans.
Easy? Not at all. Victory? 50% chance of that happening.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 15, 2012, 08:41:04 PM

Doubt it would be that bad.  Would be 1964 worst case, and I think that's still pushing it.  Maybe 1996.

Judging from the Republican primaries and if the Republican establishment will not sabotage his campaign, Ron Paul can carry all the traditional Republican (Blue) states (the lesser of the 2 evil arguments still can apply and the main stream Rep voters would go with Paul).

Besides that, Paul will carry Nevada, with a strong Libertarian leaning and very well organized base. Also, NH and VI would vote for Paul also, as shown in the Republican primaries.  Even a district in Maine.  Paul really is more accepted than the media and the establishment parties wants people to believe.  I think if he had run against Obama, it would been an easy victory for the Republicans.
Easy? Not at all. Victory? 50% chance of that happening.
How about offering a serious rebuttal for once?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on November 16, 2012, 10:28:22 AM
Massively Horrible Party, like amy secessionist party.  (Sound familiar, Democrats?)

Checkmate, Dumbocrats. ()


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 16, 2012, 12:15:07 PM
The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on November 16, 2012, 01:07:51 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/263141-international-monitors-at-polling-places-draw-criticism-from-voter-fraud-group (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/263141-international-monitors-at-polling-places-draw-criticism-from-voter-fraud-group)


Haha

Just out of curiosity, where do they get the power to monitor our elections from? This should not be tolerated. We have a ton of domestic vote watching groups on all sides of the political spectrum, we dont need UN authoritarian morons getting involved.




Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 16, 2012, 02:54:14 PM

Doubt it would be that bad.  Would be 1964 worst case, and I think that's still pushing it.  Maybe 1996.

Judging from the Republican primaries and if the Republican establishment will not sabotage his campaign, Ron Paul can carry all the traditional Republican (Blue) states (the lesser of the 2 evil arguments still can apply and the main stream Rep voters would go with Paul).

Besides that, Paul will carry Nevada, with a strong Libertarian leaning and very well organized base. Also, NH and VI would vote for Paul also, as shown in the Republican primaries.  Even a district in Maine.  Paul really is more accepted than the media and the establishment parties wants people to believe.  I think if he had run against Obama, it would been an easy victory for the Republicans.
Easy? Not at all. Victory? 50% chance of that happening.
How about offering a serious rebuttal for once?
Look up Ron Paul's views on SS, Medicare, entitlements, the economy, abortion, ect, ect. It's just not electable.

And no, the American people wouldn't just stop being sheeple or whatever they call it, and join the RON PAUL REVOLUTION despite what the Paulites think.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 16, 2012, 07:06:38 PM
While I fully support the repeal of 9/11 fear-mongering legislation, no. The law expressly states that if you're a US citizen, you can be picked up by the US Armed Forces and disappear. No trial, no anything.
That's incorrect. Please read the link I posted too.

Here it is again: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/12/defense-bill-passed-so-what-does-it-do-ndaa

That is what the law says. Read the law.

And if you're citing humor websites: http://www.cracked.com/blog/ndaa-biggest-election-issue-no-ones-talking-about/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/ndaa-biggest-election-issue-no-ones-talking-about/)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on November 16, 2012, 09:58:57 PM
While I fully support the repeal of 9/11 fear-mongering legislation, no. The law expressly states that if you're a US citizen, you can be picked up by the US Armed Forces and disappear. No trial, no anything.
That's incorrect. Please read the link I posted too.

Here it is again: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/12/defense-bill-passed-so-what-does-it-do-ndaa

That is what the law says. Read the law.

And if you're citing humor websites: http://www.cracked.com/blog/ndaa-biggest-election-issue-no-ones-talking-about/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/ndaa-biggest-election-issue-no-ones-talking-about/)

If you're putting this here, I'll take it to be an exceptionally good post.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 17, 2012, 12:36:18 AM
Did you read the article I posted? What specific parts did it get wrong?

(and Mother Jones isn't a humor website. it also made news this election for posting the 47% video)

Yes; most of it is wrong.

And yes, Mother Jones is a humor website. They claim not to be, but that's all part of the fun. They're like The Onion.
Let's just forget the Mother Jones thing for a second...


What, specifically, in the article is wrong? And where is your evidence that those specific parts are wrong?

Pretty much all of it. Citation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1540: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1540:)

And yes, Mother Jones is a humor website. They claim not to be, but that's all part of the fun. They're like The Onion.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on November 17, 2012, 10:15:50 AM
Vegetaboi assembles a WTF-worthy "dream cabinet":

Candidates that I like alot and I would put into my Cabinet would be.

Bernie Sanders
Buddy Roemer
Russ Feingold
Virgil Goode
Ross Perot
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Pat Buchanan
Dennis Kucinich
Michael Steele
Dennis Kucinich
Ralph Nader
Joe Biden
Sherrod Brown
Joe Donnelly
Jesse Jackson
Jill Stein
Herman Cain
Rocky Anderson
Charlie Christ

So basically everyone who has run for President or Senate within the past 10 years?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 17, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
Vegetaboi assembles a WTF-worthy "dream cabinet":

Candidates that I like alot and I would put into my Cabinet would be.

Bernie Sanders
Buddy Roemer
Russ Feingold
Virgil Goode
Ross Perot
Ron Paul
Gary Johnson
Pat Buchanan
Dennis Kucinich
Michael Steele
Dennis Kucinich
Ralph Nader
Joe Biden
Sherrod Brown
Joe Donnelly
Jesse Jackson
Jill Stein
Herman Cain
Rocky Anderson
Charlie Christ

So basically everyone who has run for President or Senate within the past 10 years?

Except the ones who actually won.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on November 17, 2012, 01:58:32 PM
SJoycle- you're forgetting the rule of the board... any one who makes comments supporting the Democratic Party gets a standing ovation from the members in front of their computer monitor...any other comment gets that person attacked as stupid, irrelevant, evil- you name it!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 17, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
Can't believe nobody has posted this yet:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=165029.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on November 17, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
Can't believe nobody has posted this yet:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=165029.0

One of the worst threads I've ever seen.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 17, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Can't believe nobody has posted this yet:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=165029.0

One of the worst threads I've ever seen.

I actually find it very funny in a watching-a-train-wreck kinda way.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Rooney on November 17, 2012, 11:27:59 PM
I actually find it very funny in a watching-a-train-wreck kinda way.

I quote this as absurd. You apparently find train-wrecks to be funny.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 17, 2012, 11:37:01 PM
It's funny how Stark managed to return and stay under the radar.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 17, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
I actually find it very funny in a watching-a-train-wreck kinda way.

I quote this as absurd. You apparently find train-wrecks to be funny.

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: General White on November 18, 2012, 12:42:40 AM
It's funny how Stark managed to return and stay under the radar.

Who the  is stark is that meant to be some sort of insult. Seriously hella annoying you ing communist criminal hahahahaaha.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 18, 2012, 10:05:13 AM
Just when you thought this thread couldn't get any worse:
Neutral.  You have some good ideas but some of them seem extreme.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on November 18, 2012, 10:34:27 AM
SJoycle- you're forgetting the rule of the board... any one who makes comments supporting the Democratic Party gets a standing ovation from the members in front of their computer monitor...any other comment gets that person attacked as stupid, irrelevant, evil- you name it!

Okay, maybe this will get me my very first entry in this thread (maybe not, I haven't read all the way through it) but, HOW IN THE HELL is that an absurd observation?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on November 18, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
I actually find it very funny in a watching-a-train-wreck kinda way.

I quote this as absurd. You apparently find train-wrecks to be funny.

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So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on November 18, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
I suppose I'll be the one who puts  these in here -


The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.

Didn't you read my links?  The Southern strategy had nothing to do with race.  ()It was about convincing Southern moderates who supported civil rights to fight against the segregationist Democrats by voting Republican.()  And it's not ludicrous to point this stuff out.  If Republicans had been the party of slavery and segregation (as many high profile Democrats already suggest in their alternate history), no matter how long ago it was, would you want to support the GOP today?

And if Romney was really using racist "dog whistles", then surely you would have heard more controversy over it in this day and age.

The links in question -

First of all, race may have been a factor in 1964, but it wasn't after that.  And stop making fun of me on the Southern strategy.  Read these articles to prove my point:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100265457/The-Truth-Nixon-s-Southern-Strategy
http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/


Your move, liebirals. ()


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 18, 2012, 12:22:43 PM
I actually find it very funny in a watching-a-train-wreck kinda way.

I quote this as absurd. You apparently find train-wrecks to be funny.

()

So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?

D:

I meant it as a figure of speech. Sorry...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 18, 2012, 01:29:16 PM
I suppose, in a way, your attempt to defend the supposed comedy of the idea of a trainwreck turned into something of a trainwreck itself.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on November 18, 2012, 01:36:09 PM
I suppose I'll be the one who puts  these in here -


The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.

Didn't you read my links?  The Southern strategy had nothing to do with race.  ()It was about convincing Southern moderates who supported civil rights to fight against the segregationist Democrats by voting Republican.()  And it's not ludicrous to point this stuff out.  If Republicans had been the party of slavery and segregation (as many high profile Democrats already suggest in their alternate history), no matter how long ago it was, would you want to support the GOP today?

And if Romney was really using racist "dog whistles", then surely you would have heard more controversy over it in this day and age.

The links in question -

First of all, race may have been a factor in 1964, but it wasn't after that.  And stop making fun of me on the Southern strategy.  Read these articles to prove my point:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100265457/The-Truth-Nixon-s-Southern-Strategy
http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/


Your move, liebirals. ()

I cannot abide these quotes being lost forever at the end of the previous page.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 18, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
I suppose, in a way, your attempt to defend the supposed comedy of the idea of a trainwreck turned into something of a trainwreck itself.

XD


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 18, 2012, 01:42:13 PM
I suppose I'll be the one who puts  these in here -


The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.

Didn't you read my links?  The Southern strategy had nothing to do with race.  ()It was about convincing Southern moderates who supported civil rights to fight against the segregationist Democrats by voting Republican.()  And it's not ludicrous to point this stuff out.  If Republicans had been the party of slavery and segregation (as many high profile Democrats already suggest in their alternate history), no matter how long ago it was, would you want to support the GOP today?

And if Romney was really using racist "dog whistles", then surely you would have heard more controversy over it in this day and age.

The links in question -

First of all, race may have been a factor in 1964, but it wasn't after that.  And stop making fun of me on the Southern strategy.  Read these articles to prove my point:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100265457/The-Truth-Nixon-s-Southern-Strategy
http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/


Your move, liebirals. ()

I cannot abide these quotes being lost forever at the end of the previous page.

I'm amazed that he cited WND with a straight face.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on November 18, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
I suppose I'll be the one who puts  these in here -


The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.

Didn't you read my links?  The Southern strategy had nothing to do with race.  ()It was about convincing Southern moderates who supported civil rights to fight against the segregationist Democrats by voting Republican.()  And it's not ludicrous to point this stuff out.  If Republicans had been the party of slavery and segregation (as many high profile Democrats already suggest in their alternate history), no matter how long ago it was, would you want to support the GOP today?

And if Romney was really using racist "dog whistles", then surely you would have heard more controversy over it in this day and age.

The links in question -

First of all, race may have been a factor in 1964, but it wasn't after that.  And stop making fun of me on the Southern strategy.  Read these articles to prove my point:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100265457/The-Truth-Nixon-s-Southern-Strategy
http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/


Your move, liebirals. ()

I cannot abide these quotes being lost forever at the end of the previous page.

I'm amazed that he cited WND with a straight face.

Yes fellas.

Also, Hitler was aggravated into invading Poland.  World War II was the fault of the warmongering British. . . . . . .  (http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/94166/)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 18, 2012, 03:01:47 PM
I suppose I'll be the one who puts  these in here -


The Southern strategy had nothing to do with pandering to racists.

Didn't you read my links?  The Southern strategy had nothing to do with race.  ()It was about convincing Southern moderates who supported civil rights to fight against the segregationist Democrats by voting Republican.()  And it's not ludicrous to point this stuff out.  If Republicans had been the party of slavery and segregation (as many high profile Democrats already suggest in their alternate history), no matter how long ago it was, would you want to support the GOP today?

And if Romney was really using racist "dog whistles", then surely you would have heard more controversy over it in this day and age.

The links in question -

First of all, race may have been a factor in 1964, but it wasn't after that.  And stop making fun of me on the Southern strategy.  Read these articles to prove my point:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100265457/The-Truth-Nixon-s-Southern-Strategy
http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/


Your move, liebirals. ()

I cannot abide these quotes being lost forever at the end of the previous page.

I'm amazed that he cited WND with a straight face.

Yes fellas.

Also, Hitler was aggravated into invading Poland.  World War II was the fault of the warmongering British. . . . . . .  (http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/94166/)

Only lieberal hacks can deny this!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on November 18, 2012, 05:21:32 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: k-onmmunist on November 18, 2012, 05:39:19 PM
Quote
it doesn't matter what they believe. if they are so anti abortion child rape, they don't have to do it. but they have to infringe on other people's rights too. trying to control women's pedophiles' bodies smacks quite heavily of sexism bigotry to me

Fixed it for you.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Zanas on November 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?
I would say the one with the veterans. School kids likely didn't have the time to kill anybody, so we can actually be sad about them dying.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 18, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
Ah, the venerable tradition of 'posting directly into the thread'.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on November 18, 2012, 06:52:31 PM
So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?
I would say the one with the veterans. School kids likely didn't have the time to kill anybody, so we can actually be sad about them dying.

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 18, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?
I would say the one with the veterans. School kids likely didn't have the time to kill anybody, so we can actually be sad about them dying.

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Hey, the man's an actual communist. Though I would have expected this from someone like FallenMorgan, actually.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 18, 2012, 07:38:02 PM
So which was funnier this past week: Texas, where 4 veterans died when the parade float they were on was hit by a train, or Egypt, where 50 or so school kids died when the school bus they were on was hit by a train?
I would say the one with the veterans. School kids likely didn't have the time to kill anybody, so we can actually be sad about them dying.

()

Hey, the man's an actual communist. Though I would have expected this from someone like FallenMorgan, actually.

Actually, I came into this thread, saw the bottom comment with the quote, and, before seeing who it was from, thought "oh, FallenMorgan's here".


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Zanas on November 19, 2012, 05:49:39 AM
Ah, the venerable tradition of 'posting directly into the thread'.
Well, isn't it the absurdity, ignorance and bad post thread ?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on November 19, 2012, 07:01:36 AM
Ah, the venerable tradition of 'posting directly into the thread'.
Well, isn't it the absurdity, ignorance and bad post thread ?

Yes, but traditionally posts here are from posters who do not realize they are being absurd/ignorant/bad. It's a rare thing for somebody to post and aim to make it here (which is what you did with your veterans being hit by trains comment, right? Right?)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Zanas on November 19, 2012, 07:58:15 AM
Yeah I was trolling. As you know us Commies don't abide by any rules and nothing is sacred to us except the spilled blood of capitalist infants...

So I get it. I'll just be absurd somewhere else then ! ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 19, 2012, 11:18:58 AM

Is it a "bad post"? Sure. But is it untrue? It is not.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 19, 2012, 02:33:17 PM
(
)

453-85. No doubt a landslide. Huntsman would have made MASSIVE inroads with Hispanics and the wealthy educated urban classes. It would have been a realigning election. The 2016 map would have looked like this, no joke.

(
) +  ()

Huntsman would be like Reagan x2, without any fault or flaw. The 23rd Amendment might be repealed on the grounds of sheer stupidity.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 19, 2012, 03:03:40 PM

I hope so.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 19, 2012, 03:29:23 PM

It was worth putting here just in case.....cause I'm not so sure.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 19, 2012, 03:35:25 PM

I'm not so sure either, especially given this post from the same thread:

This timeline accurately conveys what would have happened under a Huntsman presidency, sub-4% unemployment (aka full employment), trillion dollar surpluses, falling debt, rising power, 3/4+ approval ratings, and people angry unemployment is above the horrid rate of 5%. But Americans aren't that stupid, and wouldn't be so idiotic as to give us the map Maxwell presents us with. It would have been a 51-state sweep. But we were stupid enough to reject our chance at 24-year plus political dominance and mass prosperity.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=159110.75

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Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 19, 2012, 04:17:35 PM
If you guys weren't so new, you'd know I was serious. But Grumps should have known!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on November 19, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
Without the illegal vote to Obama, Romney would be president elect in January. Democrats depend on the illegals so they can stay in power for more handouts to the poor.  I prove my point.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 19, 2012, 05:46:58 PM
Without the illegal vote to Obama, Romney would be president elect in January. Democrats depend on the illegals so they can stay in power for more handouts to the poor.  I prove my point.

I didn't know Vegetaboi/Banjo Broski had more socks.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 19, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
If you guys weren't so new, you'd know I was serious. But Grumps should have known!

I'm not sure who you're talking to but I hope it's not me. I was here when you were pissing your Huggies. If I thought you were joking I would have put it in the Goldmine obviously.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Rooney on November 19, 2012, 08:23:47 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on November 19, 2012, 11:24:24 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.

I'd say that the fact that the "main reason" you won't vote for a political party is because of stuff that happened nearly 80 years ago is pretty damn absurd and ignorant, for a start.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on November 19, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Nope. Back in the days of Reagan, you could get a job, earn enough to buy a house, a car, raise a family, all without incurring debt - pay the house off and own the surrounding land.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on November 20, 2012, 02:08:32 AM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.

I'd say that the fact that the "main reason" you won't vote for a political party is because of stuff that happened nearly 80 years ago is pretty damn absurd and ignorant, for a start.
No it's mainly because he was defending McCarthy. I don't like communism, but his actions were immoral and probably illegal.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 20, 2012, 02:52:42 AM
Both the defense of McCarthy and citing that as the "main reason" to never vote for the Democrats are mind-boggingly stupid.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 20, 2012, 03:33:54 AM
Both the defense of McCarthy and citing that as the "main reason" to never vote for the Democrats are mind-boggingly stupid.

Lay off him; I wouldn't vote for the Republicans because of the Spanish-American War.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 20, 2012, 12:41:48 PM
If you guys weren't so new, you'd know I was serious. But Grumps should have known!

I'm not sure who you're talking to but I hope it's not me. I was here when you were pissing your Huggies. If I thought you were joking I would have put it in the Goldmine obviously.

In fairness to Simi, he had no clue you were here in another life. :)



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on November 21, 2012, 05:58:52 PM
No, religion is not going away.  It is a fact, not a theory, but a fact that cannot be changed that God will come back to the earth someday soon and set the record straight and dispel the scientific "facts" that don't line up with the Bible.  The Bible does not need to line up with Science, rather Science needs to line up with the Bible.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: k-onmmunist on November 22, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
Quote
it doesn't matter what they believe. if they are so anti abortion child rape, they don't have to do it. but they have to infringe on other people's rights too. trying to control women's pedophiles' bodies smacks quite heavily of sexism bigotry to me

Fixed it for you.

What he did makes sense.

only if you're a severely conservative hack


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on November 23, 2012, 08:41:49 AM
No, religion is not going away.  It is a fact, not a theory, but a fa
ct that cannot be changed that God will come back to the earth someday soon and set the record straight and dispel the scientific "facts" that don't line up with the Bible.  The Bible does not need to line up with Science, rather Science needs to line up with the Bible.
Looks like we have a winner. Time to close the thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on November 23, 2012, 10:29:29 AM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 23, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 23, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
This is just bad.

"African American Friday"

"Black= African American"

"Black=profits"

therefore

"African-American=profits"

Don't make puns for usernames if you want to avoid commentary.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on November 23, 2012, 05:04:21 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on November 23, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,

And I'm just saying that it is completely absurd to judge the parties by what they did in 1860 or even in 1933 as opposed to what they are doing NOW. It's one thing if you oppose the Democrats because of their CURRENT positions on the issues, but to oppose them based on things that happened 80-150 years ago (things which anyone with any knowledge of history and current events can see has absolutely no bearing on that party's position today) is nothing short of idiotic.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 23, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
Classic Naso just throwing stuff out there without any factual basis...


It is most gratifying to see all you Dem hacks and your perpetual fascination, nay, your absolute obsession, with Mitt Romney, following his every move.

Perhaps someday you will find some other object of your affection to stalk, but for the time being you are certainly getting your essential Romney fix.

Clearly, you and the nation cannot get enough of this great man.

Keep up the great work you Romney obsessives you.

I agree. I also love the gloating among Democrats that the country has "embraced" their beliefs. I'll let y'all in on a little secret...of the Obama voters I know...most all of them are adamantly opposed to gay marriages, raising taxes on the wealthy, and one of them talks poorly of African Americans and dependency. Yet every one of those people voted for Obama. Just because they voted for him doesn't believe they have adopted into the "Obama Euphoria" culture at all.

Trust me. I made the same mistake in late 2004/early 2005 thinking "Our side won, it's a mandate" when in reality it was a tiny, weak formed coalition that toppled down in 2006 and 2008. You can't act like: I lost 10 million voters, won only 40% of white Americans, and minorities and have an overwhelming mandate. Dems have to be cautious.


It is most gratifying to see all you Dem hacks and your perpetual fascination, nay, your absolute obsession, with Mitt Romney, following his every move.

Perhaps someday you will find some other object of your affection to stalk, but for the time being you are certainly getting your essential Romney fix.

Clearly, you and the nation cannot get enough of this great man.

Keep up the great work you Romney obsessives you.

I'll let y'all in on a little secret...of the Obama voters I know...most all of them are adamantly opposed to gay marriages, raising taxes on the wealthy, and one of them talks poorly of African Americans and dependency.


people you know =/= 64 million democratic voters.

You're missing my point. Liberals are acting as though pretty much every person who voted for Obama voted for dependency, civil rights, gay rights, ect. In actuality, many Obama voters simply didn't like Mitt Romney, and had their been a better GOP candidate, they'd be President-elect right now.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on November 23, 2012, 08:07:37 PM
That looks similar to what we had at our office pre-Thanksgiving potluck earlier this week (my workplace is predominately African-American).  

The household is predominantly African, so I don't know what you mean.

He means american blacks and africans put out similar spreads.

Looks awesome btw

No, we don't.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 23, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
I'm confused.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on November 24, 2012, 11:43:54 AM
I don't think we can help them. These are people who can't even get themselves a job, who rallied en masse behind Obama to the point of possibly stealing the election through voter fraud, who are frankly dysfunctional. What help can be given that might fix them?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 24, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,

So...have you converted to reason or are you supporting McCarthy by mocking our "the past is over" argument?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on November 24, 2012, 05:52:16 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,

And I'm just saying that it is completely absurd to judge the parties by what they did in 1860 or even in 1933 as opposed to what they are doing NOW. It's one thing if you oppose the Democrats because of their CURRENT positions on the issues, but to oppose them based on things that happened 80-150 years ago (things which anyone with any knowledge of history and current events can see has absolutely no bearing on that party's position today) is nothing short of idiotic.
I oppose Democrats for more reasons than just their history of racism and support for slavery and segregation.  There are plenty of other reasons I will not vote for them, including their support for abortion and gay marriage, as well as their support for job-killing economic policies that raise taxes on the rich in the name of "fairness" but ultimately hurt everybody by hindering businesses and discouraging growth.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on November 24, 2012, 06:17:54 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,

And I'm just saying that it is completely absurd to judge the parties by what they did in 1860 or even in 1933 as opposed to what they are doing NOW. It's one thing if you oppose the Democrats because of their CURRENT positions on the issues, but to oppose them based on things that happened 80-150 years ago (things which anyone with any knowledge of history and current events can see has absolutely no bearing on that party's position today) is nothing short of idiotic.
I oppose Democrats for more reasons than just their history of racism and support for slavery and segregation.  There are plenty of other reasons I will not vote for them, including their support for abortion and gay marriage, as well as their support for job-killing economic policies that raise taxes on the rich in the name of "fairness" but ultimately hurt everybody by hindering businesses and discouraging growth.

Then why don't you talk about that, which makes (some) sense, rather than slavery?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on November 24, 2012, 07:00:04 PM
Gunner Joe McCarthy was a freedom fighter. The fact that the Democrats recognized the Soviet Union in 1933 and (willingly?) allowed communists to infiltrate the state and agricultural departments from 1934 to at least 1947, as proven accurate by the Venona project, is the main reason I will not vote for them.

Why is this so absurd? Did I use improper syntax or spelling? This is just an opinion which I hold and backed with some logic. It may not be logic that you agree with but I did present facts to back up my opinion. Is it because my statement does not mesh with your own particular view that my statement is "absurd"? If this is the fact than it is YOU who are absurd and deserve a place in this thread.
Because the Democrats who did those things are dead now.  That was a long time ago. ;)  (Sound familiar?)

Are you saying that democrats actually were communists at some point in time?

Poor fool.
No, I'm just using your response when I expose the Democrat's history of racism,

And I'm just saying that it is completely absurd to judge the parties by what they did in 1860 or even in 1933 as opposed to what they are doing NOW. It's one thing if you oppose the Democrats because of their CURRENT positions on the issues, but to oppose them based on things that happened 80-150 years ago (things which anyone with any knowledge of history and current events can see has absolutely no bearing on that party's position today) is nothing short of idiotic.
I oppose Democrats for more reasons than just their history of racism and support for slavery and segregation.  There are plenty of other reasons I will not vote for them, including their support for abortion and gay marriage, as well as their support for job-killing economic policies that raise taxes on the rich in the name of "fairness" but ultimately hurt everybody by hindering businesses and discouraging growth.

Then why don't you talk about that, which makes (some) sense, rather than slavery?

I quite agree with SJoyceFla. Like I said, it's okay if you oppose Democrats on ideological grounds for the issues and agendas they pursue today, even though we disagree. But it is absolutely ridiculous to oppose them because of the politics of 150 years ago, when it's blatantly obvious that those politics do not apply in this day and age.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on November 24, 2012, 09:47:09 PM
Guess which movie he's talking about:
Massive Horrbile Movie for me, if you hadn't guessed that already.  Much too scary for children, and it loses even more points for CGI animation. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on November 24, 2012, 09:50:14 PM
Guess which movie he's talking about:
Massive Horrbile Movie for me, if you hadn't guessed that already.  Much too scary for children, and it loses even more points for CGI animation. 

Came there to post that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on November 26, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
This was worth a quadruple post?!

If you believe that non mass transit is cheap, I have a $6.3 billion half of a bay bridge to sell you.


They built the Golden Gate Bridge for $1.2 billion of today's dollars.
THAT'S it?!? Your 'triumphant riposte'?

Laughable. Your reputation for inherent dishonesty goes unbesmearched.

I am sorry that you don't know what's in your own best interest.

My 'own best interests'? Seriously, what the f%$k are you talking about? I honestly have no clue.

You've now added 'incomprehensible' to 'dishonest' among your list of discriptive adjectives.

I presumed that you were a productive citizen. I stand corrected. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

And Republicans are even worse with defense spending. Pick your poison, I guess. And it doesn't sound like my chumps (here in WA) are nearly as bad. But we're having trouble with the new 520 bridge, so maybe I shouldn't speak so soon. Though we don't know who is at fault yet, and it's looking more like a company cutting corners to save money than unions at this point.


That would be a nice theory that is disproven by your chumps current level of defense spending.
New infrastructure helps the economy by merely existing.

This is why the OP is falsely premised. Government-funded mass transit almost never turns a profit and usually operates at a substantial loss per passenger, but heavy subsidies are justified because of the substantial positive externalities associated with these services. It's something that an unmanaged market that doesn't account for public benefits is totally unequipped to provide.

This does not logically lead to heavily overpaying for such product in order to transfer money to your union friends.



Here are a few where I feel out of the mainstream:

1. Opposing abortion without exception for rape or incest (it exploits women by suggesting that men can sexually abuse them without any non-legal consequences.)
2. Ban gay marriage but allow civil unions with equal benefits (as well as possibly some sort of union for polygamy, etc.)
3. Keep the minimum wage the same (no increases or decreases--I believe in a fair and decent wage, but if it's too high it hurts growth and can lead to job losses)
4. Removing Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid from government control, but establishing an emergency fund to protect them in a crisis

I'm sure I could think of others, but this is a partial list.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 26, 2012, 11:47:48 PM

The individual/employee should pay for their unemployment, social, medical and workers comp. insurances so to legitimately collect said benefits.

College's pay off (sued for) the national debt; the elected chairs of leadership are college'd certified to be edukated.

We, the USA are a constitutional republic, not, a democracy!

Gay marrage is a myth of nature.

Life, liberty and the pursuit for happiness will return the Obama Ideals' to the depths of hell, its birth place.

The last one is truly a gem.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Zanas on November 27, 2012, 03:05:46 AM
So many things are wrong in this one :

With the New Democracy-PASOK-Democratic Left coalition at 167 seats, down from 179 following the June elections (ND-PASOK with only 151 seats on their own), there is a growing possibility that Greece will be undergoing a brand new round of elections very shortly. Give me your predictions as to who will be top dog in the 300-member body!

Remember: Top vote-getting party receives a 50-seat bonus and any party receiving less than 3% of the vote cannot be awarded seats in Parliament.

My prediction:

SYRIZA (Coalition of the Radical Left): 27% (134 seats)
ND (New Democracy): 20% (63 seats)
XA (Golden Dawn): 15% (42 seats)
ANEL (Independent Greeks): 8% (24 seats)
KKE (Communist Party): 7.5% (22 seats)
PASOK (Socialist Party): 5% (15 seats)
DIMAR (Democratic Left: 2.5% (DNQ)


Ultimate Prediction: After making a number of significant concessions, Alexis Tsipras and SYRIZA come to an agreement with Aleka Papariga the Communists to form an anti-bailout left-wing government, after about a week of negotiations and uncertainty (ultimately, Papariga iss swayed by polling information showing Golden Dawn in the 18-22% range should another election end up being held). After receiving wind of the agreement, Nikolaos Michaloliakos of Golden Dawn decides to utilize the resources available to him at the behest of the police forces to engineer a shocking and decisive coup d'etat.

As news of the coup spreads almost instantaneously, global markets descend into panic, prompting several exchanges including the NYSE to indefinitely suspend trading. NATO convenes an emergency session at which they conditionally expel Greece. The EU follows soon afterward, expelling Greece from the body as well as the political and financial Eurozone. Given Michaloliakos' chilling statements regarding his desire to "take back Istanbul," war with Turkey would appear inevitable. And, given Turkey's status as a NATO member, a new World War could be in the making.


Now that you have my take, what do you guys think would happen?



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 27, 2012, 03:09:32 AM
LOL


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 27, 2012, 02:45:28 PM
Posted in a thread about a concession speech in 2016:

What's the context here? Did this really happen or is this a hypothetical?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 27, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
Posted in a thread about a concession speech in 2016:

What's the context here? Did this really happen or is this a hypothetical?

Yea, I'll take that one. I misread the original post (and for some reason thought they were talking about 2012 instead of 2016) and wasn't thinking. I thought that the post was supposed to be what happened to Romney after his concession speech. I'm an idiot.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 27, 2012, 06:12:17 PM
Anyway...

Is there Booker hate too? How could anyone dislike that man? He's a good mayor and an even better person. ??? I hope he can succeed Lautenberg in 2016. I'd vote for him above any Republican, because I deeply admire him and believe this country would benefit from having him on the national stage.

He's a black version of Evan Bayh. Party backstabbers, we can't have 'em. Kick him out!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 27, 2012, 06:35:03 PM
On why there was no left wing Tea Party:
Because the right-wing media and the Bush regime suppressed it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on November 28, 2012, 06:26:50 PM
Obama wants to be on Mount Rushmore. He'll do whatever it takes to look like a great leader, even if it means working with Romney over some non-issue.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 28, 2012, 11:37:56 PM
My incredible wit and snappy comebacks have absolutely owned everyone here.

No wonder you regret opening this stupid thread.

I would too if I were you, having to match wits with me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on November 29, 2012, 07:33:13 AM
BRTD, it's becoming fairly clear that Winfield is mostly trolling. Hell, I've always suspected he's a liberal.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 29, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
Yes, but because she was more centrist than Obama.  Obama far and away is just not a good fit for the region politically--he's WAY too liberal.  Not that Hillary Clinton's not pretty far-left herself, but just not as much as Obama.  So, although she probably wouldn't have done a whole lot better, she would have performed better than he did.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on November 30, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
Yes, but because she was more centrist than Obama.  Obama far and away is just not a good fit for the region politically--he's WAY too liberal.  Not that Hillary Clinton's not pretty far-left herself, but just not as much as Obama.  So, although she probably wouldn't have done a whole lot better, she would have performed better than he did.

If Hillary had won the nomination, he (and the rest of the right) would be saying that about Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 01, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
Hopefully they don't exist.

I don't like the thought of my ghostly relatives being around when I watch porn or masturbate for example.

And if they exist, hopefully they have other stuff to do in the meantime.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 01, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
Hopefully they don't exist.

I don't like the thought of my ghostly relatives being around when I watch porn or masturbate for example.

And if they exist, hopefully they have other stuff to do in the meantime.


There's nothing absurd, ignorant, or bad about that. Should be in the Goldmine.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 02, 2012, 02:09:33 AM
Oh, so she's finally come to terms with her lesbianism?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 02, 2012, 02:11:17 AM
BRTD, it's becoming fairly clear that Winfield is mostly trolling. Hell, I've always suspected he's a liberal.

BRTD is widely known for taking everything literally.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 03, 2012, 02:49:46 PM
This is just plain absurd:

Why do people still have the false idea that Oklahoma is a hellhole?  It is a beautiful state.   It is not all flat, but nobody thinks of the Eastern Mountains.  If people would actually take the time to visit Oklahoma, they would change their minds very quickly.  Also, contrary to popular opinion, Oklahoma is just as much a part of this country as New York, California, Florida, or other states and deserves the same respect.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 03, 2012, 02:59:04 PM
I thought those places were outside real America and could go hang?

Then again, Oklahoma is no more part of Real America than is Alaska, I guess.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on December 04, 2012, 10:29:19 AM
Romney can bring meaning to his life and fix his obvious flaws through Jesus Christ. Maybe this defeat will cause him to reexamine things and bring him to Christ, as the power of Christ can change even someone like him.
Thats only absurd if you are an atheist or consider Romney to be a good Christian. So thats basically a matter of opinion.   


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 04, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
Or if you are a member of any other but a Christian faith.

Or if you are aware that Mormons, whether you consider them Christians or not, certainly worship Jesus as Christ.

Or if you are just not of the opinion that Christians ought to go out of their way to be annoying in order to "proselytize", especially not (or just: at least not) among minorities with a long historical memories of persecution by Christians.

Or if you're aware that Mitt Romney won't notice this ridiculous attempt at converting him.


Or... I don't think there are any non-absurd people left by this point, so I won't seek to prolong the list any further.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on December 04, 2012, 10:54:24 AM
Or if you are a member of any other but a Christian faith. Nah, most religious people dont consider each others belive systems absurd.

Or if you are aware that Mormons, whether you consider them Christians or not, certainly worship Jesus as Christ. That is beside the point. The issue is whether he is a good Christian, not if he is a Christian

Or if you are just not of the opinion that Christians ought to go out of their way to be annoying in order to "proselytize", especially not (or just: at least not) among minorities with a long historical memories of persecution by Christians.
The statement said nothing about a conversion, just finding God, which could happen within the framework of the Mormon faith. But anyway this is based on your opinion, not logic, hence not absurd ].

Or if you're aware that Mitt Romney won't notice this ridiculous attempt at converting him.
You can pray for other people without them hearing it, thats actually the normal way to pray. Again this is only absurd if you dont believe in God.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 04, 2012, 10:56:51 AM
Or if you are a member of any other but a Christian faith. Nah, most religious people dont consider each others belive systems absurd.

Or if you are aware that Mormons, whether you consider them Christians or not, certainly worship Jesus as Christ. That is beside the point. The issue is whether he is a good Christian, not if he is a Christian

Or if you are just not of the opinion that Christians ought to go out of their way to be annoying in order to "proselytize", especially not (or just: at least not) among minorities with a long historical memories of persecution by Christians.
The statement said nothing about a conversion, just finding God, which could happen within the framework of the Mormon faith. But anyway this is based on your opinion, not logic, hence not absurd ].

Or if you're aware that Mitt Romney won't notice this ridiculous attempt at converting him.
You can pray for other people without them hearing it, thats actually the normal way to pray. Again this is only absurd if you dont believe in God.

Okay, I'll add another one: Or if you're not aware of the context and are therefore misunderstanding what Red is trying to convey here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on December 04, 2012, 11:39:11 AM
My patience is exhausted. Unless Obama makes an offer that is serious (the Pubs at least made a serious offer...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 04, 2012, 11:56:35 AM
Context:

Pathetic victim of Stockholm syndrome.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on December 04, 2012, 05:09:12 PM
My patience is exhausted. Unless Obama makes an offer that is serious (the Pubs at least made a serious offer...

That really is absurd.

My only explanation is that Torie was under the influence of something.... ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Yelnoc on December 04, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
Click for context.

Well, for many of the reasons stated by others, I would have opposed it. With the removal of a couple sections, though, I would be an enthusiastic supporter.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 04, 2012, 08:49:09 PM
Joseph Dioguardi Defeated Kristen Gilibrand in 2010 Special Election and he is Running For President in 2016

GO Jospeh Dioguardi

I PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN!!!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 04, 2012, 08:52:03 PM
You accidentally put that here instead of the Goldmine.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SPC on December 04, 2012, 09:30:21 PM
America was founded on the right to refuse to serve black people at your diner.
This quote automatically makes you a massive HP.  It may not be "we reserve the right to refuse service to robots and space bikers", but it's WAY worse.  I know you're being sarcastic, but you're completely wrong on this one.  Even one of my PoliSci professors said that the "state's rights" argument was irrelevant and was essentially calling for a return to the Articles of Confederation.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on December 04, 2012, 10:18:42 PM
One time (not by design) I happened to be in NYC for the Columbus Day parade, which appeared to consist entirely of entries from various Italian Catholic benevolent societies in which small groups of elderly thin-voiced paraders sang pious songs in Italian, with the exception of one large float populated by people who looked straight out of MTV's Jersey Shore dancing to a recording (at full blast, thus completely drowning out the somewhat nonplussed aforementioned elderly benevolent societies) of the hip-hop song Proud to be an Albanian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCGdb6E6leE), which, by the way, you should absolutely listen to in full at the link just given. It was awesome.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 04, 2012, 10:20:27 PM
You accidentally put that here instead of the Goldmine.

I find it sufficiently absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 05, 2012, 01:16:55 AM
^^^Oklahoman school system.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 05, 2012, 11:57:49 AM
Guys don't bother.  Give Oldiesfreak a few years to mature and he'll come to realize that his current way of viewing politics is flawed.

What I mean is that eventually he'll come to realize is that he can defend his reason for being a Republican without heavily relying on what happened 150 years ago.

Right now, it's pretty much a useless struggle.  The young are stiffnecked and set in their ways.

-Mecha
Good point, but how many times do I have to say that that is NOT the only reason that I'm a Republican?  It is one reason, granted, but it's not the only one.

Note, I said "Heavily relying" on, not "only relying on".
Yes, you have mentioned being prolife and something about civil unions, but mostly as an afterthought.  Most of the time, what I've heard from you is "CIVILRIGHTSSEGREGATIONISTSSLAVERYABOLITIONEMANCIPATIONPROCLAMATIONLOLNOGEORGEWALLACE."
Which, really, is only used occasionally by Republican posters on here when in a pissing contest with Democrats over race politics, if you'll pardon the pun.  Though really, you don't need to go back that far to prove that Democrats are racists.  I mean hell, you're talking about a party that has the "soccer mom" demographic in it. . . . . . .
How are soccer moms racist?  Last time I checked, they were pretty liberal on social issues.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on December 05, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
The Republican Party started down this path because of Ronald Reagan and his wrong-headed policies, not in spite of them. If anything, the Republicans won't be able to become electable again until they stop fellating the corpse of Ronald Reagan.

You are aware that between 1933 and 1981, in the era that so many on here consider the "moderate Republican" heyday that the GOP only held Congress four years out of forty-eight?  I mean hell dude, the GOP from 1981-1987 held the US Senate longer than they did in the past forty-eight years.
Also, see the 1994 Congressional Election results and half of the Bush Presidency.  OH yes, also see the 2010 midterms.
Now Presidential Elections wise, that's sixteen out of forty-eight versus running on twenty out of (at present and assuming Obama finishes his term) thirty-six?
I don't like Reagan for his policies and a number of other things, but let's at least give the guy and his coalition some dues here.  Sure, the fellatio is annoying (and a bit disturbing, considering he's dead), but it definitely hasn't hurt the GOP to go REAGANOMICS!

America, that's a different story.
Yes, but it's because of Reagan that Republicans have become so obsessed with ideological purity.  And at least before Reagan (and before Clinton, for that matter), the good, decent parts of the country voted Republican at least occasionally.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 05, 2012, 02:30:23 PM
It's the plain common truth. :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on December 06, 2012, 09:45:29 AM

Yes, but it didn't refute my point at all, which was based on numbers and electoral success.  Not my personal feelings of Republicans or Reagan.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Sbane on December 06, 2012, 03:02:30 PM
If they get rerouted to Tacoma, I'm all for this strike. ;) But seriously, this is a pretty obvious outcome. A general strike is ridiculous and not happening, and would only hurt the American economy anyway.
Hurting the American economy would be good for the long term welfare of it's working class.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 07, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
Neutral, but I will say, FF for being the only Southern Democrat governor after the 2012 election.

Wait, what? Now you like Southern Democrats?

Probably because "they make Democrats look racist."
Yes, exactly.  It's also why I hate Southern Republicans.  (I'm only half-joking here!)  I know I sound like Joe Biden, but it's the truth.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 07, 2012, 12:59:21 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/08/23/whos-the-boss-star-tony-danza-weighs-run-for-mayor/

Not sure if this has any legitimacy to it, but if Tony Danza runs I'll probably support him. Or Kelsey Grammar, if he runs.



crossposted.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CountryRoads on December 07, 2012, 01:07:22 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/08/23/whos-the-boss-star-tony-danza-weighs-run-for-mayor/

Not sure if this has any legitimacy to it, but if Tony Danza runs I'll probably support him. Or Kelsey Grammar, if he runs.



crossposted.

How is it ignorant in anyway? I know for the most part that many of the candidates in NYC would be too liberal for me. So why wouldn't I want a conservative like Grammar to run? or even Danza who's ideology I don't know?



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 07, 2012, 01:48:47 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/08/23/whos-the-boss-star-tony-danza-weighs-run-for-mayor/

Not sure if this has any legitimacy to it, but if Tony Danza runs I'll probably support him. Or Kelsey Grammar, if he runs.



crossposted.

How is it ignorant in anyway? I know for the most part that many of the candidates in NYC would be too liberal for me. So why wouldn't I want a conservative like Grammar to run? or even Danza who's ideology I don't know?



It's not ignorant, just absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on December 07, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Also, there's such a thing as the Conservative Party of NY, which came in third in the last mayor's race. No need to support joke candidates.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Miles on December 08, 2012, 08:32:24 PM

High turnout is not a good thing if a bunch of ignorant and uninformed people are voting.  I'd rather there be just 30% turnout if the 30% are very informed and engaged on the issues.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 08, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
After all these years, I am still amazed to see how disgusting Republicans can be.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 08, 2012, 09:22:06 PM
High turnout is not a good thing if a bunch of ignorant and uninformed people are voting.  I'd rather there be just 30% turnout if the 30% are very informed and engaged on the issues.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this post. Of course, in such a scenarios Democrats would always win 55%+, but if all voters are informed, it is worth is.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on December 08, 2012, 09:32:56 PM
High turnout is not a good thing if a bunch of ignorant and uninformed people are voting.  I'd rather there be just 30% turnout if the 30% are very informed and engaged on the issues.

The post is fairly dumb, but the fact it was put in the GPG is much more absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 09, 2012, 02:49:47 AM

Ok, Phil, here's what I don't get. The politicians you choose as your favorites, like Berlusconi and Santorum, are known for being bullies who roll over their opponents. Take a lesson from people like krazen and Sam Spade–you need to own that this is your preference. If you talk about how great someone like Santorum or Berlusconi is, when they pull stunts like this, then you need to be triumphalist and not complain that people aren't being fair to the poor guy. Santorum pounds his adversaries into the dust, like in this case - he doesn't play the victim himself. People aren't going to have sympathy that his critics are "mean" to him after he torpedoed a treaty defending the rights of the disabled. He did this, you should take pride or call out people who disagree with him for being weak. Not many people have a second act like Santorum did - Rod Grams and Conrad Burns lost in the same election and they're footnotes to history. Santorum's out killing treaties in the Senate and running for President as not-Romney.

I already know your response to this, but I don't care--if you think jerks make the best elected officials, then recognize that jerks can't be victims. Harry Reid is a jerk who takes no prisoners, and there's not a soul who would be taken seriously for saying "stop being mean to Harry!"

about time someone called him out on it.

Yeah, I tip my hat to Brittain33 for that post.

Yes, excellent post if you ignore some of the glaring factual inaccuracies! When pointed out to him, he didn't bother to respond. Instead, he just posted a link to anothe article that bashed Santorum. Looks like someone knows they were wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Won't be the last.

I'm also not totally convinced that brittain and memphis aren't the same person.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RI on December 09, 2012, 02:49:13 PM
"Uneducated" people voting is a legitimate and big problem, and it's one of the reasons that we have a republican system rather than a purely democratic system. The "Founders" were terrified of an uneducated, selfish mob voting to continuously give themselves things with no restraint; Jefferson in particular advocated for a yeoman society to, among other reasons, allow farmers time to educate themselves politically during the winter/non-growing seasons. He thought Hamilton's industrialization goals would breed a diminished civic intelligence and conciousness due to physical and mental overtaxation.

I don't generally care for Jefferson (I like Hamilton much more), but he was right in that regard. There are at least three solutions to this problem: A) remove the "right" to vote by fundamentally changing our system, B) restrict the "right" to vote either at the bottom (who can vote) or at the top (what they can vote on), or C) have a more educated electorate through various methods. All could work under the proper auspices and specifications, and they all could easily fail under others.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 09, 2012, 08:41:01 PM
Ah, someone else following the ancient and noble tradition of 'posting directly into the Deluge.'


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 09, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
realisticidealist, C is the only acceptable option.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 09, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
Some people still think they live in the 18th Century.

Sorry Nathan, I know you won't like this post. ;) But you've gotta admit...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 09, 2012, 11:20:51 PM
Well who cares about rural white men anyway?

Obama and the Democrats owe them nothing. They've done nothing for this country but stoke race and class resentment at home and serve as cannon fodder for unnecessary wars abroad. They hate minorities, gays, pretty much anyone who isn't like them.

Romney and the Republicans don't owe them anything either. Guys like Romney would just as soon replace them with robots. Or if you can't get a robot, get some little Chinaman to do the same job for a tenth the cost. Cap their SSI benefits. Make it impossible for them to afford to retire and next to impossible for their kids to go to college. They'll still vote for the "working man's" party (even if most of them are laid off).

And they'll go on living in their alternate reality where they think the rest of us are mooching off them and that they're always being cheated and put upon. They always point their pitchforks at the wrong people. Schoolteachers. Black single moms. Do they really think they're to blame for the fact that a high school education doesn't get you into the middle class anymore? They ought to pick on somebody their own size for a change. Like their fellow white men - the ones who laid them off, for example.

I think posts like this that blindly generalize groups of people -- irrespective of the type that is being generalized -- fit all three adjectives.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 10, 2012, 12:00:15 AM
I don't think so (although I'm not sure, so don't hold me to it), but one house passed a non-partisan commission law, even with a republican majority, so... maybe?

Otherwise, we're headed in the direction of Florida -A swing state that is completely controlled by Republicans on the State level.

Yes, the Republicans can seek vengeance for a century of gerrymandering. Vengeance is not acquired in 10 years.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 10, 2012, 05:00:41 AM
Native Americans have been made dependent on government as the result of liberal Democrat welfare state policies.

(Materiel as in the other two sentences of the post above is also getting quoted into this thread all the time, but does not really belong here. This sentence does.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on December 10, 2012, 11:27:09 AM
Native Americans have been made dependent on government as the result of liberal Democrat welfare state policies.

(Materiel as in the other two sentences of the post above is also getting quoted into this thread all the time, but does not really belong here. This sentence does.)

Where does he get this stuff?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 10, 2012, 02:54:58 PM
*A point could then be made that I am by far the most qualified poster to be a mod here since I am paid to moderate.

Before Mr. Kemp or Joe Republic puts this here...... :D 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 10, 2012, 06:05:07 PM
Women don't tend to obsess over specific fields of minutaie the way men do. A lot of the political gossip here is very analagous to female oriented celebrity magazines, but there is nothing they're into that compares to creating a national swing map by county. That's something only a guy would do.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 10, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
Women don't tend to obsess over specific fields of minutaie the way men do. A lot of the political gossip here is very analagous to female oriented celebrity magazines, but there is nothing they're into that compares to creating a national swing map by county. That's something only a guy would do.

Really, don't most of Memphis's posts in that thread belong here?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 10, 2012, 11:22:58 PM
Women don't tend to obsess over specific fields of minutaie the way men do. A lot of the political gossip here is very analagous to female oriented celebrity magazines, but there is nothing they're into that compares to creating a national swing map by county. That's something only a guy would do.

Really, don't most of Memphis's posts in that thread belong here?

That was the only one at the time I submitted it here. 'Welcome to the Deluge' was in my first response to him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RI on December 11, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
realisticidealist, C is the only acceptable option.

C may be the best, but I disagree that it's the only acceptable option. For example, I don't think we should have referenda and initatives. They've done terrible things to Washington and California, and they are the opposite of the type of government that I'd prefer.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 11, 2012, 04:22:53 PM
realisticidealist, C is the only acceptable option.

C may be the best, but I disagree that it's the only acceptable option. For example, I don't think we should have referenda and initatives. They've done terrible things to Washington and California, and they are the opposite of the type of government that I'd prefer.

True. C and one of the two sub-options of B, rather.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 11, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
During my time on this forum, I've been known to ruffle plenty of feathers.  If you are one of those people, then I hope that you will read this.  As nearly all of you who are familiar with me and my posting history know, I am passionate about civil rights and civil rights history.  (But contrary to popular misconception, I am indeed white, not black.)  And in the midst of that I have jokingly said some things that were bigoted and hateful toward Southerners.  Although I must admit that those feelings are real, I would like to apologize for voicing them.  I will try not to continue making such posts, and if I do, please feel free to report me.  Thank you.

I had to bold the best line.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CountryRoads on December 11, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
During my time on this forum, I've been known to ruffle plenty of feathers.  If you are one of those people, then I hope that you will read this.  As nearly all of you who are familiar with me and my posting history know, I am passionate about civil rights and civil rights history.  (But contrary to popular misconception, I am indeed white, not black.)  And in the midst of that I have jokingly said some things that were bigoted and hateful toward Southerners.  Although I must admit that those feelings are real, I would like to apologize for voicing them.  I will try not to continue making such posts, and if I do, please feel free to report me.  Thank you.

I had to bold the best line.

Lmaaaaaaaao. That is some amazing stuff right there Oldies lol


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on December 11, 2012, 08:57:08 PM
During my time on this forum, I've been known to ruffle plenty of feathers.  If you are one of those people, then I hope that you will read this.  As nearly all of you who are familiar with me and my posting history know, I am passionate about civil rights and civil rights history.  (But contrary to popular misconception, I am indeed white, not black.)  And in the midst of that I have jokingly said some things that were bigoted and hateful toward Southerners.  Although I must admit that those feelings are real, I would like to apologize for voicing them.  I will try not to continue making such posts, and if I do, please feel free to report me.  Thank you.

I had to bold the best line.

Lmaaaaaaaao. That is some amazing stuff right there Oldies lol
I meant that in all seriousness.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 11, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
More historical revisionism from our favorite historical revisionist:

As for the Election Thief Franken, I have no idea why Minnesota would elect him (or rather, why the state Supreme Court would select him.)  I also have no idea why he would be popular.  I can already see the perfect bumper sticker: "Re-Defeat Franken 2014."  But then again, they did elect Jesse Ventura as their governor in 1998, so I guess it's not that surprising.  But that proves just how pathetic Minnesota voters (and their state Supreme Court) are.  And Norm Coleman was a hardworking, constituent-oriented Senator too.  (Then again, he was reelected, but the convicted felons and the Minnesota Supreme Court stole it from him.) 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 12, 2012, 12:21:49 AM
Keeping in mind the possibility that the next Veep may not have been elected to office yet (see Richard Nixon, Spiro Agnew and Sarah Palin), or may not have risen to prominence yet (see Paul Ryan).

Hillary's qualifications are impressive enough that she doesn't need to make up for any shortcomings. And she can have her pick of middle-aged to old white guys. I don't think she'd choose a woman, or anyone from New York/ Arkansas.

The long list would include...
Mark Warner- Because of his combination of business/ executive and legislative experience, as well as his help in a crucial swing state.
Tim Kaine- Same reason. He's also slightly younger than Warner.
Charlie Crist- May help in Florida. Will allow Clinton to depict the Republicans as a group of crazy radicals.
Julian Castro- Can excite Latinos and younger voters. Executive of a city with a population greater than New Hampshire.
John Hickenlooper- Swing state Governor.
Martin O'Malley- Does no harm. Currently under Fifty.
Brian Schweitzer- Politically talented.
Jon Tester- Survived two close elections. Appeal to rural white voters.
Gavin Newsom- The most prominent white guy under fifty (in 2016) the Democrats seem to have. Possible Governor of California.

So why are you excluding Gov. Deval Patrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deval_Patrick)? 

Frodo's obsession with black people is getting downright weird. Just because he happens to be an incumbent officeholder does not qualify him or anything.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 12, 2012, 01:16:38 AM
Keeping in mind the possibility that the next Veep may not have been elected to office yet (see Richard Nixon, Spiro Agnew and Sarah Palin), or may not have risen to prominence yet (see Paul Ryan).

Hillary's qualifications are impressive enough that she doesn't need to make up for any shortcomings. And she can have her pick of middle-aged to old white guys. I don't think she'd choose a woman, or anyone from New York/ Arkansas.

The long list would include...
Mark Warner- Because of his combination of business/ executive and legislative experience, as well as his help in a crucial swing state.
Tim Kaine- Same reason. He's also slightly younger than Warner.
Charlie Crist- May help in Florida. Will allow Clinton to depict the Republicans as a group of crazy radicals.
Julian Castro- Can excite Latinos and younger voters. Executive of a city with a population greater than New Hampshire.
John Hickenlooper- Swing state Governor.
Martin O'Malley- Does no harm. Currently under Fifty.
Brian Schweitzer- Politically talented.
Jon Tester- Survived two close elections. Appeal to rural white voters.
Gavin Newsom- The most prominent white guy under fifty (in 2016) the Democrats seem to have. Possible Governor of California.

So why are you excluding Gov. Deval Patrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deval_Patrick)?  

Frodo's obsession with black people is getting downright weird. Just because he happens to be an incumbent officeholder does not qualify him or anything.

Patrick has been mentioned as a 2016 candidate. Even if he wasn't, there wouldn't be any thing absurd, ignorant, or bad about the post.

You, once again, fail.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 12, 2012, 02:10:45 AM
The response to this is more proof that critical thinking is dead.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on December 12, 2012, 03:55:24 AM
If she doesn't appoint Scott, she's an HP. Or more of one.

This would be the case if Scott weren't an HP.

But it isn't, because he's a black.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Alcon on December 12, 2012, 07:34:12 AM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 12, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?
Strongly endorse. The "good thing you're posting directly into the Deluge" stuff is awful.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on December 12, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
More historical revisionism from our favorite historical revisionist:

As for the Election Thief Franken, I have no idea why Minnesota would elect him (or rather, why the state Supreme Court would select him.)  I also have no idea why he would be popular.  I can already see the perfect bumper sticker: "Re-Defeat Franken 2014."  But then again, they did elect Jesse Ventura as their governor in 1998, so I guess it's not that surprising.  But that proves just how pathetic Minnesota voters (and their state Supreme Court) are.  And Norm Coleman was a hardworking, constituent-oriented Senator too.  (Then again, he was reelected, but the convicted felons and the Minnesota Supreme Court stole it from him.)  
I'm not a historical revisionist, but I'd hate to turn up the opportunity to be your favorite Lief. ;)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on December 12, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?
I guees so, but some of the best stuff (see winfield and bad quoting) has come from retorts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on December 12, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?

The opportunity for awkward self-defense is why this thread exists.  Arguing in the Good Post gallery - especially about Berlusconi - should be verboten.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 12, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
I would have thought that the entire purpose of this thread makes arguing within it inevitable.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 12, 2012, 04:18:55 PM
Either way, we must continue to let this live and not succumb to the imposter thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 12, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
Either way, we must continue to let this live and not succumb to the imposter thread.

We'll never abandon The Deluge.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 12, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?

The opportunity for awkward self-defense is why this thread exists.

This.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on December 12, 2012, 08:38:47 PM
The worst approach, which is unsurprisingly the one you appear to prefer due to your own concupiscent selfishness (or selfish concupiscence, it's all the same), is the one taken by the countries in blue on this map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prostitution_laws_of_the_world.PNG).

What's wrong with banning organized (ie, exploited) prostitution?

The prostitute are charged for soliciting customers, the customer isn't charged, as he did nothing illegal.

In Canada, note than the Ontario courts stuck down the law, Government is appealing.

That sucks, yeah. However, I would say that ideally laws should punish customers and pimps, while leaving prostitutes alone (ideally, offering them opportunities for another professional orientation).

Why treat potentially distasteful manual labor involving a vagina any differently from potentially distasteful manual labor involving one's hands? Surely you don't advocate saving female janitors or factory workers and "offering them opportunities for professional orientation"? At least a prostitute gets paid considerably more (a prostitute in a place with sensible laws, at least).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Frodo on December 12, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
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This random comment of his is from my thread 'The Rebel Yell'.   I hope it makes more sense given the context than it did to me.  


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 12, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
Something a little more fun! :P (I hope the mods think this is ok)

Back in late 2008, early 2009, everyone thought Mark Sanford and John Ensign would be frontrunners in 2012's GOP primary race. We know how those two turned out. The Democratic side also has its fair share of sexual affairs and other scandals, but usually revealed long after Election Day.

So, which talked-about 2016 candidates are most likely to have a sexual affair, or some other kind of disqualifying scandal (corruption, nepotism)??





I think Marco Rubio is most likely to have an affair. Probably with a gay Mexican prostitute. He just seems the type to me.

A gay scandal with Santorum is also overdue.

Paul Ryan also seems insecure with his sexuality but I don't think he'd cheat, I think he'd stay clean.

Nikki Haley is most likely to have a big nepotism/corruption scandal, since she's already faced a variety of smaller charges of nepotism since being elected.

Biden and Cuomo may have a roving eye...

Your turn!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on December 12, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
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This random comment of his is from my thread 'The Rebel Yell'.   I hope it makes more sense given the context than it did to me.  

It's not quite as absurd as it seems at first glance since the 75th Anniversary Encampment was held in 1938 and while not strictly New Deal related, the New Deal was responsible for jumpstarting government funding for oral history projects.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 13, 2012, 12:19:06 AM
i've always wondered what makes Vermont whites so much more liberal then the rest of the white population elsewhere. Is it possible to take a stereotypical white in Tennessee or Oklahoma and tinker with the genes to make them behave like Vermont whites (without of course telling them what the intent is)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on December 13, 2012, 09:31:06 AM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?

My opinion of the matter is: no Deluge at all. Unlike the Goldmine, this thread isn't fun in even the remotest sense of the word, so I don't see how the forum would be missing anything.
Disagree. I think its often funnier, but people should be more selective about what they put here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 13, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
how do people feel about a "no arguing in the Deluge" rule (like the Comedy Goldmine) is...or does awkward self-defense just add to this thread's charms?

My opinion of the matter is: no Deluge at all. Unlike the Goldmine, this thread isn't fun in even the remotest sense of the word, so I don't see how the forum would be missing anything.
Disgree. I think its often funnier, but people should be more selective about what they put here.

There's so much to choose from it's hard, you see :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 13, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Obama hasn't even been re-inaugurated yet and he already had his Harriet Miers moment.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 14, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Israel-haters seldom let facts get in the way of their hysteria.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 14, 2012, 09:08:14 PM

He's right...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 14, 2012, 09:10:06 PM

The very thread he posted it in is hysteric. It's not a one way street here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 14, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
J.J. is my friend but his horrific postings on the CT shooting thread all belong here......I'm just too lazy to copy them all.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 14, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
J.J. is my friend but his horrific postings on the CT shooting thread all belong here......I'm just too lazy to copy them all.

I'm sure linking to his posting history would suffice.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 14, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
J.J. is my friend but his horrific postings on the CT shooting thread all belong here......I'm just too lazy to copy them all.

I'm sure linking to his posting history would suffice.

Done (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=1083;sa=showPosts)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 14, 2012, 10:53:11 PM
Just ban guns.  Make every single gun ing illegal.  Lets become a civilized country.  It's 2012 not 1791.
I want to be free to leave my house in the morning without being in danger of being shot by some gun nut.  Respect my freedom please (and no, I am not going to buy a gun to protect myself because I am only protected when none of you have a gun)!  I don't want to live in a society of fear where everyone carries a gun.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 14, 2012, 11:01:19 PM
Nothing wrong with that post. Banning guns is a sensible, mainstream position.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 14, 2012, 11:25:34 PM
Nothing wrong with that post. Banning guns is a sensible, mainstream position.

I really don't want to argue in the Deluge, but banning guns is neither sensible (it's like the marijuana argument in reverse; the government can then no longer regulate it/tax it and it goes underground and proliferates anyway and you end up with every Dick, Nat, and Jane owning a Chechnyan firecracker) nor is it a mainstream position (and this is easy to back up with numbers: http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx . Note the trend; America is getting more and more pro-gun over time, and quickly).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 14, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
Just because Americans are far outside of the mainstream doesn't make the position any less mainstream.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 14, 2012, 11:36:03 PM
Just because Americans are far outside of the mainstream doesn't make the position any less mainstream.

If 'mainstream' doesn't refer to the attitude of the majority, it becomes a literally meaningless word.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 14, 2012, 11:41:58 PM
Just because Americans are far outside of the mainstream doesn't make the position any less mainstream.

If 'mainstream' doesn't refer to the attitude of the majority, it becomes a literally meaningless word.

The "attitude of the majority" of the world is to severely limit access to guns.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 14, 2012, 11:59:57 PM
Just because Americans are far outside of the mainstream doesn't make the position any less mainstream.

If 'mainstream' doesn't refer to the attitude of the majority, it becomes a literally meaningless word.

The "attitude of the majority" of the world is to severely limit access to guns.

Proof? I'm sure you can find evidence suggesting that's the case for a majority of Western Europeans, but you'll find it difficult to argue about what 'the majority of the world' (in Asia) think about gun control. So that's basically an unprovable assertion. It's like asking if God exists -- merely faith. (We're talking about mainstream of people, not mainstream of governments, I assume.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 15, 2012, 12:21:11 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166425.0


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 15, 2012, 02:51:48 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166425.0
This does not qualify. That someone would put it here is more or less proving his point.

Ben is right, for a sufficiently strict definition of "Israel-haters."

A good half or so of this thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166398.0) definitely belongs here, though.

Oh, and this:


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on December 15, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
A vile sack of dog shit. And the fact that the entire forum seems to be supporting him...well. You'll see my opinion on that.

This is an insult to all the sacks of dog inks out there.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 15, 2012, 08:19:30 AM

yeah, no.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 15, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
I think he may just have turned dada on us.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 15, 2012, 02:57:36 PM

 The rogue mind in which the gun rest denies life again, its horror imagined lived infinity by the survivors of Adam Lanza; his capital sin, revenge - the Obama Christmas Present’.  The Obama Christmas Future’ - the denial and abuse of the Founding Father’s fundamentals can only foster greater atrocities. Their foresight was not void of mass murder, it’s forming was of it. Our Christmas Pass’, Obamacare - the aggrandizement of life, liberty and loot is met with equal distain.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 15, 2012, 02:58:30 PM
I have no idea what he's trying to convey:

I said this on facebook, but if guns kill people then how does anyone get out of a gun show alive?

The thing is he really thought that was a great logical point...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 15, 2012, 03:06:57 PM

 The rogue mind in which the gun rest denies life again, its horror imagined lived infinity by the survivors of Adam Lanza; his capital sin, revenge - the Obama Christmas Present’.  The Obama Christmas Future’ - the denial and abuse of the Founding Father’s fundamentals can only foster greater atrocities. Their foresight was not void of mass murder, it’s forming was of it. Our Christmas Pass’, Obamacare - the aggrandizement of life, liberty and loot is met with equal distain.

Absurd in a good/hilarious way though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on December 15, 2012, 09:31:13 PM

 The rogue mind in which the gun rest denies life again, its horror imagined lived infinity by the survivors of Adam Lanza; his capital sin, revenge - the Obama Christmas Present’.  The Obama Christmas Future’ - the denial and abuse of the Founding Father’s fundamentals can only foster greater atrocities. Their foresight was not void of mass murder, it’s forming was of it. Our Christmas Pass’, Obamacare - the aggrandizement of life, liberty and loot is met with equal distain.

Absurd in a good/hilarious way though.

Should I be worried that I think I understand what he is trying to mangle?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 18, 2012, 03:02:38 PM
Now, separate from policy, I do not see abortion as the desirable outcome.  Whether a fetus is person is one question, but it's most certainly alive.   I can't help but feel I took part in ending a life. 

How should I feel about this moral quandary I've thrust myself into?

Based on your previous sentence ("I can't help....") it appears to me that you are already feeling guilty. Which you should.

(Oh, and you're a much worse person than I thought.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 18, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
You can't massacre 20 children with a couple knives.

Yes you can. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/15/not-just-sandy-hook-china-s-terrifying-knife-attacks.html)

Generally a massacre involves people dying. No one died in the Chinese knife attack, because knives are much less dangerous than guns.

So we're just gonna gloss over the fact that a man burst into a Chinese school with a machete, stabbed 22 preteen children....solely because none of them died?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 19, 2012, 05:09:40 AM
You can't massacre 20 children with a couple knives.

Yes you can. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/15/not-just-sandy-hook-china-s-terrifying-knife-attacks.html)

Generally a massacre involves people dying. No one died in the Chinese knife attack, because knives are much less dangerous than guns.

So we're just gonna gloss over the fact that a man burst into a Chinese school with a machete, stabbed 22 preteen children....solely because none of them died?

God, this is silly even by the Deluge's standards.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on December 19, 2012, 05:10:43 AM
You can't massacre 20 children with a couple knives.

Yes you can. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/15/not-just-sandy-hook-china-s-terrifying-knife-attacks.html)

Generally a massacre involves people dying. No one died in the Chinese knife attack, because knives are much less dangerous than guns.

So we're just gonna gloss over the fact that a man burst into a Chinese school with a machete, stabbed 22 preteen children....solely because none of them died?

God, this is silly even by the Deluge's standards.

We needn't focus on little details like that, Antonio. You need to set your priorities straight.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on December 19, 2012, 06:26:46 AM
God, this is silly even by the Deluge's standards.

Poor wording, obviously.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 19, 2012, 07:02:31 AM

Poor thinking, too.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on December 19, 2012, 09:46:13 AM

Poorly construed, but not poor thinking.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on December 20, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
Even when he's not discussing political history, this kid still needs a residency in this thread:

Oh great; the 75th anniversary of Snow White gets overshadowed (again) by a stupid made-up apocalypse. I guess Disney asked for it; they've ignored it almost entirely.

Yes, but so has everybody else except you, apparently.  Seriously, what a weird tidbit of cultural history to want to commemorate, and then throw a hissy fit when it unsurprisingly gets ignored.
Why?  It's one of the most important films in history and considered such a timeless classic; why not commemorate it?  Disney did a theatrical rerelease and a bunch of other stuff for the 50th in 1987 and they also did a few things to commemorate the 75th anniversary of Mickey Mouse's debut in 2003.  Why would they ignore the 75th for Snow White?  I think it's pretty safe to say that if it weren't for that film, we wouldn't even have animation today, let alone Disney. 
Granted, I won't entirely ignore the Mayan apocalypse either; I'll be laughing at all the crazy folks who think the world is actually going to end, including the schools that are closing because of it.  And besides, wasn't the apocalypse supposed to happen only if Republicans won back the White House?  And anyways, you guys are all wrong.  The apocalypse will be the 31st, not the 21st, if we reach the fiscal cliff without a solution.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 20, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
what that is i dont even


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on December 22, 2012, 12:35:53 AM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on December 22, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
I wonder what laPierre and krazy's base would think about the tax increases nescessary to put armed guards in every elementary school.

Hmm? There wouldn't have to be any tax increases. Just fire some teachers.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 22, 2012, 12:35:54 PM
I wonder what laPierre and krazy's base would think about the tax increases nescessary to put armed guards in every elementary school.

Hmm? There wouldn't have to be any tax increases. Just fire some teachers.



Was just going to post this.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on December 22, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
It was largely because of coal mining and because of Obama's far-left politics.  Race had nothing to do with it.  Remember that the "hillbillies" in Appalachia got their name because they remained loyal to the Union ("Billy Yanks") during the Civil War.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on December 22, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
there is some question as to whether compulsive use of pornography functions as an addiction (see drug use) or as an impulse-control disorder (see compulsive handwashing).

The real reason for this isn't anything particularly attractive about pornography, it is that there is something wrong with a society in which it is so difficult for so many males to get sexual intercourse.

True.

I blame Disney movies.  They make every little girl in this country think she's some perfect princess that has to wait for frickin' Prince Charming to come along until she gives herself up.  If we just told them they are decaying bags of meat like everybody else we'd all be getting it in a lot more. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CatoMinor on December 22, 2012, 06:57:12 PM
That's true... And the saddest thing is that France isn't even close to taxing the uber-rich nearly as much as they should be.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 22, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
This man will either end up in prison or the White House. Perhaps both.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 23, 2012, 12:26:08 PM
I wonder what laPierre and krazy's base would think about the tax increases nescessary to put armed guards in every elementary school.

Hmm? There wouldn't have to be any tax increases. Just fire some teachers.



Was just going to post this.

Krazen's entire posting history in that thread would fit here (actually you could argue you don't even need to include "in that thread" in that statement...)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 25, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
Anyone in the Green Party is a massive HP.  It is, without a doubt, the most dangerous third party in America.

For the record I actually agree with this statement, though I know he certainly doesn't think that for the same reasons I do. I am interested in hearing how the Green Party is dangerous (to a conservative)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on December 25, 2012, 09:04:49 PM
Already posted Franzl's response to this in the Sulfur thread, but this post is just so bad it has to go here too:
I might, but I can't say for sure.  I would much rather live in a wealthy or middle-class black neighborhood than a poor one.

I'm absolutely shocked! How come?
Not because of race.  It's just that I really don't like crime.  And urban clothes, weird names, and "gangsta rap" really don't make blacks look that good anyway.

Especially ironic/terrible considering it's from Oldiesfreak.

Also, makes this look even funnier:
During my time on this forum, I've been known to ruffle plenty of feathers.  If you are one of those people, then I hope that you will read this.  As nearly all of you who are familiar with me and my posting history know, I am passionate about civil rights and civil rights history.  (But contrary to popular misconception, I am indeed white, not black.)  And in the midst of that I have jokingly said some things that were bigoted and hateful toward Southerners.  Although I must admit that those feelings are real, I would like to apologize for voicing them.  I will try not to continue making such posts, and if I do, please feel free to report me.  Thank you.

I had to bold the best line.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 26, 2012, 05:05:33 AM
Why exactly are you pitting two renowned economists against a duo of failed clowns?

I don't think I would call O'Reilly or Limbaugh 'renowned economists'...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on December 26, 2012, 05:22:02 AM
Why exactly are you pitting two renowned economists against a duo of failed clowns?

I don't think I would call O'Reilly or Limbaugh 'renowned economists'...

Vosem's attempt to be funny are almost as painful as Tim Pawlenty's attempt to appear hip by saying how much he likes Lady Gaga's songs.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 26, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
Why exactly are you pitting two renowned economists against a duo of failed clowns?

I don't think I would call O'Reilly or Limbaugh 'renowned economists'...

Vosem's attempt to be funny are almost as painful as Tim Pawlenty's attempt to appear hip by saying how much he likes Lady Gaga's songs.


It can't be denied that your post in that thread is much, much funnier than mine.

To wit:

The concept of two Nobel laureates, who correctly predicted and analyzed the crisis, being "dangerous" just shows what a good job Fox News has done when it comes to brainwashing its viewers.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 26, 2012, 11:05:40 AM
Vosem carries on in the fine tradition of posting directly into the Deluge.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on December 26, 2012, 11:16:12 AM
Vosem carries on in the fine tradition of posting directly into the Deluge.

Someone ought to carry the torch now that JJ is in his traditional post-election hiding (oops! I meant hiatus).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 26, 2012, 11:49:42 AM
Why exactly are you pitting two renowned economists against a duo of failed clowns?

I don't think I would call O'Reilly or Limbaugh 'renowned economists'...

Vosem's attempt to be funny are almost as painful as Tim Pawlenty's attempt to appear hip by saying how much he likes Lady Gaga's songs.


It can't be denied that your post in that thread is much, much funnier than mine.

To wit:

The concept of two Nobel laureates, who correctly predicted and analyzed the crisis, being "dangerous" just shows what a good job Fox News has done when it comes to brainwashing its viewers.


Why don't you just shut up? You only have 3000 posts, but they are all so painful to read that it feels like you have 300000.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 26, 2012, 12:15:49 PM
Why exactly are you pitting two renowned economists against a duo of failed clowns?

I don't think I would call O'Reilly or Limbaugh 'renowned economists'...

Vosem's attempt to be funny are almost as painful as Tim Pawlenty's attempt to appear hip by saying how much he likes Lady Gaga's songs.


It can't be denied that your post in that thread is much, much funnier than mine.

To wit:

The concept of two Nobel laureates, who correctly predicted and analyzed the crisis, being "dangerous" just shows what a good job Fox News has done when it comes to brainwashing its viewers.


Why don't you just shut up? You only have 3000 posts, but they are all so painful to read that it feels like you have 300000.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 26, 2012, 12:20:39 PM
You might have a stronger leg to stand on calling people who have won sort-of-Nobel Prizes 'failed clowns' by comparison to Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh if you weren't a snot-nosed, contrarian teenager who hasn't even been an undergraduate yet.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on December 26, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
You might have a stronger leg to stand on calling people who have won sort-of-Nobel Prizes 'failed clowns' by comparison to Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh if you weren't a snot-nosed, contrarian teenager who hasn't even been an undergraduate yet.
Quote
snot-nosed
How did you know about my cold?

But, in all seriousness, I would have a stronger leg to stand on on any topic if I wasn't a snot-nosed, contrarian teenager. It's an occupational hazard :P


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on December 26, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
True--I was there quite recently myself. I hope your cold gets better soon.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on December 26, 2012, 02:15:21 PM
You might have a stronger leg to stand on calling people who have won sort-of-Nobel Prizes 'failed clowns' by comparison to Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh if you weren't a snot-nosed, contrarian teenager who hasn't even been an undergraduate yet.
Quote
snot-nosed
How did you know about my cold?

But, in all seriousness, I would have a stronger leg to stand on on any topic if I wasn't a snot-nosed, contrarian teenager. It's an occupational hazard :P

:D this response arguably belobgs in either the comedy goldmine or good post thread.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:53 PM
...............

Our betrayal and treatment of the Shah was the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past fifty years.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 26, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166837.0

Hopefully I shouldn't have to say why this belongs here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on December 26, 2012, 05:51:08 PM
...............

Our betrayal and treatment of the Shah was the greatest moral and geopolitical travesty of the past fifty years.

sounds a bit more like Simfan 1.0 than 2.0.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 27, 2012, 09:39:46 AM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on December 27, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!
Welln, it's true.  Democrats are constantly pretending that slavery, segregation, the KKK, etc. either were or are Republican institutions despite the fact that they were all Democrat institutions instead.  If Sigmund Freud examined today's Democratic Party, he would have to conclude that they are denying their party's racist past and projecting it onto Republicans.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 27, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
You're posting in the right thread. Ideally, this should be the only thread you ever post in.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 27, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!
Welln, it's true.  Democrats are constantly pretending that slavery, segregation, the KKK, etc. either were or are Republican institutions despite the fact that they were all Democrat institutions instead.  If Sigmund Freud examined today's Democratic Party, he would have to conclude that they are denying their party's racist past and projecting it onto Republicans.

Oh, we're not denying our racist past. We know and accept that back then, 150 years ago, Democrats were racist and Republicans weren't (see Cathcon's Atlas US Elections thing). You're denying the Republican Party's racist or at least semi-racist present.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on December 27, 2012, 12:25:40 PM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!
Welln, it's true.  Democrats are constantly pretending that slavery, segregation, the KKK, etc. either were or are Republican institutions despite the fact that they were all Democrat institutions instead.  If Sigmund Freud examined today's Democratic Party, he would have to conclude that they are denying their party's racist past and projecting it onto Republicans.

Oh, we're not denying our racist past. We know and accept that back then, 150 years ago, Democrats were racist and Republicans weren't (see Cathcon's Atlas US Elections thing). You're denying the Republican Party's racist or at least semi-racist present.
Only because they're not.  Why would they go backwards at the same time that society became less racist and Democrats became the party of sunshine and lollipops?  And it doesn't matter how long ago Democrats were racist.  What matters is that they were racist, and all but a few of the 20th century racist/segregationist Democrats stayed with the Democratic Party for life.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on December 27, 2012, 12:39:06 PM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!
Welln, it's true.  Democrats are constantly pretending that slavery, segregation, the KKK, etc. either were or are Republican institutions despite the fact that they were all Democrat institutions instead.  If Sigmund Freud examined today's Democratic Party, he would have to conclude that they are denying their party's racist past and projecting it onto Republicans.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on December 27, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
Oh, we're not denying our racist past. We know and accept that back then, 150 years ago, Democrats were racist and Republicans weren't (see Cathcon's Atlas US Elections thing). You're denying the Republican Party's racist or at least semi-racist present.
Only because they're not.  Why would they go backwards at the same time that society became less racist and Democrats became the party of sunshine and lollipops?  And it doesn't matter how long ago Democrats were racist.  What matters is that they were racist, and all but a few of the 20th century racist/segregationist Democrats stayed with the Democratic Party for life.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 28, 2012, 10:28:31 AM
1866

Antonio V: This is perfect!  We Democrats start the Ku Klux Klan to get rid of all those Republicans, and then, 150 years from now, we pretend that Republicans did all these things!
Democrats are constantly pretending that slavery, segregation, the KKK, etc. either were or are Republican institutions despite the fact that they were all Democrat institutions instead.

In your own little world, maybe.

Have a red pill: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_slavery#Views_on_African_Americans


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 28, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
While I can't say I'm happy at the result of this election, I can at least be glad that in the US your right to free speech is taken much more seriously than in most of the rest of the world.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on December 28, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
Here is David. David is 38 years old, white, male, married with two children, ages 8 and 5.



David lives in Iowa, in a suburb of Des Moines. Here is his house.

()

David works for an internet solutions company in the logistics division, a position that requires him to travel outside of state every other month. Once a year or so, he'll travel to Canada or Japan or England. His job pays $45,000. Here is his office building.

()

David went to Iowa State University, graduated with a bachelor's degree. He voted for the Democratic Party in the past two elections. He drives a 2010 Ford Fusion.

()

His two children go to the local elementary school. Here it is. His children entered the education system in pre-school.

()

He and his family are not particularly religious, but attend services at the Baptist church once a month or so. With his wife earning $50,000 as a paediatrician, his family earns $95,000 a year.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on December 29, 2012, 01:00:27 AM
Here is David. David is 38 years old, white, male, married with two children, ages 8 and 5.



David lives in Iowa, in a suburb of Des Moines. Here is his house.

()

David works for an internet solutions company in the logistics division, a position that requires him to travel outside of state every other month. Once a year or so, he'll travel to Canada or Japan or England. His job pays $45,000. Here is his office building.

()

David went to Iowa State University, graduated with a bachelor's degree. He voted for the Democratic Party in the past two elections. He drives a 2010 Ford Fusion.

()

His two children go to the local elementary school. Here it is. His children entered the education system in pre-school.

()

He and his family are not particularly religious, but attend services at the Baptist church once a month or so. With his wife earning $50,000 as a paediatrician, his family earns $95,000 a year.

What's so bad about that post?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 29, 2012, 01:01:12 AM
For starters $95k/year is quite far from the average US household income.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 29, 2012, 08:13:54 AM
You're posting in the right thread. Ideally, this should be the only thread you ever post in.
I'm not sure why Dave even bothers with more threads than this one tbh.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on December 29, 2012, 08:18:38 AM
And the average American will not travel to Canada/Japan/England about once a year.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 29, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
What's absurd about that post is the amount of thought put into it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on December 29, 2012, 02:17:39 PM
For starters $95k/year is quite far from the average US yhousehold income.
That is one problem. Also a doctor is average? But only earns 50k? Wtf? I suspect she's actually a nurse. In any case, by far, the most absurd aspect is the idea that a population can be averaged. Even if you had a person who had average stats on a number of fields, that consistency would be highly atypical. We live in a profoundly diverse nation. And that's even presuming that we're limiting our population to the US, which is yet another absurdity.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on December 29, 2012, 05:24:06 PM
For starters $95k/year is quite far from the average US household income.
tbf it is Simfan though. Anyone earning under $5 million per annum is clearly a peasant.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 29, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
For starters $95k/year is quite far from the average US household income.
tbf it is Simfan though. Anyone earning under $5 million per annum is clearly a peasant.

I suppose this makes me a true Rockefeller Republican (http://thedartmouth.com/2008/04/28/news/smith).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on December 29, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
Sadly, people do not always invest the time to understand the facts. The lies told by the democratic party about the war in Iraq hurt President Bush. Despite bi-partisian accomplishments such as No Child Left Behind and Medicare Part D, Democrats successfully portrayed President Bush as a divisive leader. Luckily, enough Americans realized President Bush was an accomplished President and a steady leader where as Senator Kerry would take positions based on polls and held some very left wing beliefs.

Are you from late-2003? You do know that NCLB is now regarded very poorly by most people, that the Iraq War was actually in fact based based on false information and was a huge mistake, and the Medicare Part D was a woefully executed and unfunded giveaway to the pharmaceutical industry, right?
When the democrats can't win on the truth, they lie, and sometimes it works for them (think 2012, 1964) and sometimes it does not (think 2004). Thus, President Bush won re-election by a closer margin than previous war time Presidents.

Uh no, Republicans lie. For example: 1936, 1948, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1988, 1992, 1994, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2010, 2012

I'm not going to say that all the GOP candidates have always told the absolute truth, but the truth is the democratic party has had a disproportionate number of candidates who have lied over the years. Democrats win by lying, distracting, and distorting. Republicans win by nominating strong leaders.
hey guys, people who disagree me lie and for some reason people who agree with me don't as much!! i don't know why, it's probably because I'm right and people who disagree with me aren't so they have to lie.  Or they're just devil dogs.  lol, idk guys!

Did Mitt Romney have an economic plan? A vague one, but still more bold than Obama's. Obama said Romney only wanted to give tax cuts to the wealthy, a falsehood.

Did Bush's tax cuts only help the wealthy? No, but his opponents said they did.

Did John Kerry changed his position on Iraq? He did, but he said he did not.

Did Ronald Reagan have a plan to raise taxes in 1984? No, but Walter Mondale said he did.

Did Barry Goldwater plan on war? No, but LBJ said he did.

Republicans have their share of problems, but the democratic party has won elections based on lies. The GOP has been guilty of this too, but not as much it seems.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 29, 2012, 08:28:15 PM

Absurdity.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 30, 2012, 05:14:46 AM
Gun owners should have to register with the local police and go home to home in their neighborhood informing their neighbors that they are gun owners. They should also not be able to live near schools.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 30, 2012, 01:23:29 PM
Old :), and even more bullied than now by people who don't care about history.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 30, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
Plus, the wonderful irony of this poll is that the same liberals who claim to champion the "working man" and demonize the upper classes will probably vote Freedom Food as well because they're European.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 30, 2012, 02:23:08 PM
All this whining is bizarre. Giving away the farm to the 47ers hasn't been a priority in Georgia even back to the days of Roy Barnes.

New record for post most densely packed with idiocy?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on December 30, 2012, 05:47:46 PM
The words "Southern" and "Republican" should never be used together, at least nowadays.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on December 31, 2012, 01:22:08 AM
Sbane is from California and therefore understandably has a slanted opinion on public unions.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 31, 2012, 03:40:38 AM
Isn't sbane from Tennessee?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on December 31, 2012, 08:13:01 AM
No.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 31, 2012, 08:56:51 AM
He used to have an I-TN avatar, I think…


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 31, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Because he goes to med school there.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 31, 2012, 09:00:30 AM
Ah, that would make sense.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 31, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Fortunate One. And agreed. Anything is better than pornography.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 31, 2012, 02:03:46 PM

Our suffocatingly prudish, sex-shaming culture sure has done a number on poor, young Simfan.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on December 31, 2012, 05:15:07 PM
Susana Martinez's dad seems to be dying. :(

http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/news/official-susana-martinezs-father-gravely-ill-el-pa/nThmj/

For practical purposes, this does mean she'll have fewer forces tying her down when it comes time to think of a national run in 2015...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 01, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
Seems like they used to deign to give these unfortunate people scraps from their most high and mighty farmhouse table, though.

It is mere chance that Roy Barnes had to deal with fewer of those types. One wonders why they have not self-deported to San Francisco over the last decade.

The working poor of Georgia should just relocate to San Francisco. Krazen might've finished the year with his most absurd statement of the year.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on January 01, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
Sex is great. I can vouch for this personally, mind you.

Oh, well, as long as you say so!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 01, 2013, 08:00:37 PM
40 minutes early is not extremely early by any stretch of the imagination.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 02, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
Hey, I've got a routine and it works.  There is a saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".  My routine isn't broken, so there's no need to fix it!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 02, 2013, 12:55:58 PM
He can't be real. If I believe it, it just depresses me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 02, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
Trouble is, the alternative possibilities are also quite depressing.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 02, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Context

Love the title - a true shame the nomination was stolen from her.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on January 02, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
2 for 1 special:

America was denied a third and fourth term of Hillary.  :(  We would've been so much better off with her.
More like a third and fourth term of Bill, which is why I'm glad Obama is president now; he saved us from that.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on January 02, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Hope Boehner slips on ice and falls down than cries like a little bi!ch.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Brittain33 on January 03, 2013, 12:18:16 PM
And as for Jews, I believe that Republicans today are probably more pro-Israel and less anti-Semitic than Democrats.

"This isn't right. It isn't even wrong."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 03, 2013, 01:20:03 PM
Classic Naso...

Speaker Boehner is leading the GOP with regards to policy, but Governor Christie leads with regards to public opinion.

I still say Christie. I was having a Sam Adams at a local pub and I overheard a husband and wife saying during a conversation, "Christie tells it the way it is."

He's also molding himself into our culture quite well. I like it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 03, 2013, 01:26:26 PM
I almost feel bad posting this here...

Where is your evidence?  I have plenty.  Robert Byrd used the N-word at least twice in a Fox News interview in 2001.  And in 1993, Fritz Hollings talked about African potentates coming up to Geneva and "getting a good square meal" instead of "eating each other."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on January 03, 2013, 04:56:15 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 03, 2013, 07:47:29 PM

OMG, you're dumber than I thought. Do you really think that Hollings and Byrd were segregationist by 2001? LoL LoL LoL. And I'm not sure Hollings was a segregationist (Byrd ceirtainly was), but Hollings supported Jackson in 1988 (!!) and Byrd supported Obama in 2008 (!!!). That's my evidence.
They were still racist, and the only reason they supported black presidential candidates was because they were Democrats.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on January 03, 2013, 09:29:37 PM

OMG, you're dumber than I thought. Do you really think that Hollings and Byrd were segregationist by 2001? LoL LoL LoL. And I'm not sure Hollings was a segregationist (Byrd ceirtainly was), but Hollings supported Jackson in 1988 (!!) and Byrd supported Obama in 2008 (!!!). That's my evidence.
They were still racist, and the only reason they supported black presidential candidates was because they were Democrats.
So if they were republicans, they would not support a black president, doesn't that mean that the republican party is more racist.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 03, 2013, 09:55:37 PM

OMG, you're dumber than I thought. Do you really think that Hollings and Byrd were segregationist by 2001? LoL LoL LoL. And I'm not sure Hollings was a segregationist (Byrd ceirtainly was), but Hollings supported Jackson in 1988 (!!) and Byrd supported Obama in 2008 (!!!). That's my evidence.
They were still racist, and the only reason they supported black presidential candidates was because they were Democrats.
So if they were republicans, they would not support a black president, doesn't that mean that the republican party is more racist.

Problem is Jackson was never the democratic nominee, and Byrd supported Obama over Clinton, in the primary season.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 03, 2013, 11:25:59 PM
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on January 04, 2013, 01:08:29 AM
How long until we find out he's another complex Aizen character?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 04, 2013, 09:16:10 AM
How long until we find out he's another complex Aizen character?

No way. The Professor and Mr. Twister were funny, Oldies is just a moron.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 04, 2013, 10:04:24 AM
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.
It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on January 04, 2013, 10:44:41 AM
Racism, like most isms, is not binary. Nixon's objective was to walk the tightrope between Humphrey's strong and longstanding record on Civil Rights and Wallace. Nixon positioned himself as a happy medium. His racism was just right :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 04, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.
It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.

Debunked in the original thread. And I was referring primarily to the last sentence, which only makes sense if you consider Strom Thurmond a pro-civil rights moderate. And completely ignore what Nixon's political strategist said.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 04, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
Racism, like most isms, is not binary. Nixon's objective was to walk the tightrope between Humphrey's strong and longstanding record on Civil Rights and Wallace. Nixon positioned himself as a happy medium. His racism was just right :)
Nixon was not a racist.  He actually had a much better civil rights record as president than LBJ.  Here's a Nixon campaign ad from 1960 to prove that:
http://www.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=dAlZHfaksQM

If he supported civil rights in 1960, then what makes you think he would have such an about-face in just eight years?  I think much of he Nixon-as-racist myth comes from the fact that Nixon simply makes an easy pinata for left-wing historians because of Watergate.  But that doesn't change the fact that Nixon was one of our best presidents on civl rights. 
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.
It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.

Debunked in the original thread. And I was referring primarily to the last sentence, which only makes sense if you consider Strom Thurmond a pro-civil rights moderate. And completely ignore what Nixon's political strategist said.
Which of Nixon's strategists?  Don't say Lee Atwater because he was only 17 in 1968, so he couldn't have been one of Nixon's strategists.  And the simple fact is, plenty of moderate Northerners moved to the South in the 50s and 60s, and they were much more inclined to support civil rights, and thus Republican candidates.  So my explanatio  makes perfect sense, and it's also what another Nixon strategist (Pat Buchanan) said about it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 04, 2013, 03:46:40 PM
Don't say Lee Atwater because he was only 17 in 1968, so he couldn't have been one of Nixon's strategists. 

wut


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 04, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
Pat Buchanan used as a source.. Hahahahaha


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on January 04, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
Racism, like most isms, is not binary. Nixon's objective was to walk the tightrope between Humphrey's strong and longstanding record on Civil Rights and Wallace. Nixon positioned himself as a happy medium. His racism was just right :)
Nixon was not a racist.  He actually had a much better civil rights record as president than LBJ.  Here's a Nixon campaign ad from 1960 to prove that:
http://www.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=dAlZHfaksQM

If he supported civil rights in 1960, then what makes you think he would have such an about-face in just eight years?  I think much of he Nixon-as-racist myth comes from the fact that Nixon simply makes an easy pinata for left-wing historians because of Watergate.  But that doesn't change the fact that Nixon was one of our best presidents on civl rights. 
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.
It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.

Debunked in the original thread. And I was referring primarily to the last sentence, which only makes sense if you consider Strom Thurmond a pro-civil rights moderate. And completely ignore what Nixon's political strategist said.
Which of Nixon's strategists?  Don't say Lee Atwater because he was only 17 in 1968, so he couldn't have been one of Nixon's strategists.  And the simple fact is, plenty of moderate Northerners moved to the South in the 50s and 60s, and they were much more inclined to support civil rights, and thus Republican candidates.  So my explanatio  makes perfect sense, and it's also what another Nixon strategist (Pat Buchanan) said about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Phillips_(political_commentator) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Phillips_(political_commentator))

Quote
From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 04, 2013, 11:15:26 PM
Steve Palazzo (R-MS)
Randy Weber (R-TX)

The hypocrisy is revolting. I hope their districts don't get a dime from any natural disasters that befall them in the coming years.

You want 1.4 million to suffer because of 2 people? :(

Yes I do. These people didn't seize their congressional seats in a coup. Their constituents voted for them. Steve Palazzo's district in particular deserves to get it good and hard - how much money did they get after Katrina? And we all know Mississippi gets far more federal dollars than in pays in taxes. Let the Tea Partiers who elected Mr. Palazzo be reminded that in the grand scheme of things, they are the moochers and takers they love to rail against.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on January 05, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Why didn't someone tell Adam Lanza that the Sandy Hook Elementary School was a gun free zone?

He clearly found out from somewhere -- not sure he would've gone in otherwise.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 05, 2013, 12:05:20 PM
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FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE!

A NATION TO SAVE!

I am today announcing my candidacy for President of Atlasia, so that all may benefit from what this nation has to offer.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 05, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
Racism, like most isms, is not binary. Nixon's objective was to walk the tightrope between Humphrey's strong and longstanding record on Civil Rights and Wallace. Nixon positioned himself as a happy medium. His racism was just right :)
Nixon was not a racist.  He actually had a much better civil rights record as president than LBJ.  Here's a Nixon campaign ad from 1960 to prove that:
http://www.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=dAlZHfaksQM

If he supported civil rights in 1960, then what makes you think he would have such an about-face in just eight years?  I think much of he Nixon-as-racist myth comes from the fact that Nixon simply makes an easy pinata for left-wing historians because of Watergate.  But that doesn't change the fact that Nixon was one of our best presidents on civl rights.  
Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:


WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.
No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.
It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.

Debunked in the original thread. And I was referring primarily to the last sentence, which only makes sense if you consider Strom Thurmond a pro-civil rights moderate. And completely ignore what Nixon's political strategist said.
Which of Nixon's strategists?  Don't say Lee Atwater because he was only 17 in 1968, so he couldn't have been one of Nixon's strategists.  And the simple fact is, plenty of moderate Northerners moved to the South in the 50s and 60s, and they were much more inclined to support civil rights, and thus Republican candidates.  So my explanatio  makes perfect sense, and it's also what another Nixon strategist (Pat Buchanan) said about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Phillips_(political_commentator) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Phillips_(political_commentator))

Quote
From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats
He may have said that, but it would have made no sense for Nixon to do that, so he was in the minority on wantinf to pursue that kind of course.  And remember what LBJ said about blacks after signing the '64 CRA:
Quote
I'll have those nig**rs voting Democratic for the next 200 years.
And this one is from Theodore White's 1968 edition of The Making of the President, which was written during the 1968 campagin.  I doubt he was a right-winger, considering his background, but here's the quote:
Quote
Nixon conspicuously, conscientiously, calculatedly denied himself all racist votes, yielding them to Wallace.

Finally, why do you accuse me of having unreliable sources when you're citing Wikipedia as one of yours?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 05, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
3. What I've said is backed up by historical evidence.  I realize that there are bad Republicans and good Democrats, but those people seem to be in the minority, in my opinion.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on January 05, 2013, 06:30:40 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 05, 2013, 07:18:19 PM

Came here to post this.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 06, 2013, 06:06:19 PM
One think that confuses me is why hispanics voted for Obama overwhelmingly. First off, he is black, in LA I have heard of tensions between blacks and hispanics.


  What specifically gives him appeal to hispanics?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on January 06, 2013, 08:47:00 PM
If the Reform party gets its act together then yes NY will become a swing state.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 07, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
Other than O'Malley, all the democratic candidates are to the right of Obama, there is very little room to the left of Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 07, 2013, 01:56:37 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on January 07, 2013, 03:11:07 PM

Oh man even if he's trolling this is really dumb


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 07, 2013, 03:12:24 PM

It's classic BRTD.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 07, 2013, 05:10:33 PM
I've stated many times I never have any problem with violating laws I think are stupid, if not I'd be a hypocrite since on New Year's Eve I was briefly involved in passing around a joint between sets. But it appears he was doing more than consuming alcohol, so I have to retract my statement.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on January 08, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
cc: Deluge


Is this some lesbian slur I've never heard of? Mods, please ban.
No.  It's a reference to My Life as a Teenage Robot.  On that show, there was a group called the Space Bikers (who I never really cared for).  Janet Napolitano always reminded me of Letta, the leader, (especially after the 2008 DNC) because she was a loudmouth who looked and sounded kind of like her.  One of them was also named Tammy, so that name always reminds me of them.  Hence the space biker comment.

http://teenagerobot.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Bikers


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 08, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
()

The whole state of Alabama should be the target of surgical strikes.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on January 08, 2013, 06:42:41 PM

I don't think surgeons have labor unions.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 08, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
I, too, dislike the voting patterns of most of the Romney states, but simply because they make the GOP look bad (and thus should be blue-leaning states.)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Comrade Funk on January 09, 2013, 09:22:31 PM
Actually the current PA legislature was elected with the heavily Democrat favored lines that gave Democrats extra seats in Allegheny County that they should not have.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Niemeyerite on January 09, 2013, 10:09:48 PM
I, too, dislike the voting patterns of most of the Romney states, but simply because they make the GOP look bad (and thus should be blue-leaning states.)

That's hilarious.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 10, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
Oh no...

I remember a few years ago when Avatar was nominated for Best Picture.  I didn't like it that much when I saw it, but I thought it deserved it since it made such ridiculous money.  When it lost to Hurt Locker, I was shocked", although I have a feeling that it was politically motivated (which would be odd since Avatar seemed to portray a situation similar to what happened to the Native Americans, and it also seemed to convey some environmentalist messages.)  I hope Lincoln get it.  If not, then we'll know it's because those guys know their history, realize Lincoln was a Republican, and don't like the history that was portrayed in the film.  (Sound familiar?)

BTW: please forgive me for asking, but what's the difference between the Oscars and the Golden Globes?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 10, 2013, 07:11:23 PM
Wow. Oldies managed to come up with 4-5 absurd things unrelated to each other and combine them in a single post.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 10, 2013, 07:54:15 PM
Yeah, that entire post really is a gem.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 10, 2013, 08:02:51 PM
University professors, marketing researchers, media editors and designers, journalists, advertising executives, actors, human resources managers, corporate trainers, public relations practitioners, and media managers and consultants. You'll see it as communication, communication studies, speech communication, rhetorical studies, communication sciences, media studies, communication arts, mass communication, media ecology, and communication and media science.

Copypaste, or does he really feel strongly about communications degrees?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 10, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
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WTF kind of name is that?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 10, 2013, 08:08:45 PM
University professors, marketing researchers, media editors and designers, journalists, advertising executives, actors, human resources managers, corporate trainers, public relations practitioners, and media managers and consultants. You'll see it as communication, communication studies, speech communication, rhetorical studies, communication sciences, media studies, communication arts, mass communication, media ecology, and communication and media science.

Copypaste, or does he really feel strongly about communications degrees?

It seemed nicer than just saying this (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=communications+major).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: JerryArkansas on January 10, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MasterJedi on January 10, 2013, 08:19:53 PM
Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.

You don't know opebo do you? He's opening admited to not really caring about left wing causes/the rights of people/etc. Case and point, he supported Gaddafi.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Sewer on January 10, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.

You don't know opebo do you? He's opening admited to not really caring about left wing causes/the rights of people/etc. Case and point, he supported Gaddafi.

You said "Obama". A Freudian slip that reveals how deranged your brand of conservatism is.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on January 10, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
For purchase enquiry you can contact us via any email below... SATISFACTION GUARANTEED
Contact Name : Nguyen Guevara


WTF kind of name is that?

Vietnamese Hispanic it looks like.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MasterJedi on January 10, 2013, 08:46:32 PM
Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.

You don't know opebo do you? He's opening admited to not really caring about left wing causes/the rights of people/etc. Case and point, he supported Gaddafi.

You said "Obama". A Freudian slip that reveals how deranged your brand of conservatism is.

Epic fail on my part. I was texting a friend and we were discussing something about Obama so I'd been typing that name on and off for the last half hour. Obama is close to Opebo and it just came out. Obviously I don't like Obama but in his own (wrong) way he's trying to do what's best for the country. Your name clearly suits you though. :)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 10, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Hey, I'm not offended by being called a pie eater or a panty muncher, I take pride in being called as such.  So what is wrong with calling gay men Hanes grazers?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 10, 2013, 10:46:26 PM
There was a blatent shafting. 2016 Obama's America, the highest grossing documentary was not nominated for best documentary


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 10, 2013, 10:50:01 PM
    The last generation of Pokemon I partook in was Ruby/Sapphire. So not really.

Ten years ago, I would have been, but not now.  They're always coming up with new ones, and I can never keep up.  Plus, I quit playing those games for religious reasons.

Lol, what? There really is almost nothing to do with religion in the whole franchise.

     He might be referring to the fact that pokemon "evolve". As I recall he belongs to a fundamentalist denomination (Seventh-Day Adventists?), so that may be an issue for him.
Not really.  It has more to do with the fact that there were psychic and ghost Pokemon.  Plus, I heard somewhere that Pokemon is supposed to mean "pocket devil."  Granted, I know it was originally called Pocket Monsters in Japan, but still...
FTR, the farthest I went with the games was Fire Red and Leaf Green.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on January 10, 2013, 11:22:45 PM
I really think he's trying to  with everyone. If he isn't then I am incredibly depressed reading those posts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 11, 2013, 11:27:19 AM
I have survived.  We've got about a foot of snow sitting out there with heavy snow still falling.  It should keep falling all day today, and into tomorrow morning before lake effect bands set up.  Our NBC affiliate says we may not get out of it completely until Sunday morning.

I'm thankful right now they drew my name out of the hat to stay home today.  I would have tried to go, but it would have been a big challenge and I likely would have been a nervous wreck in just the 1.25 miles to get to work.  The roads should be clear by Monday.  Until then, I'm going nowhere this weekend.  Church on Sunday is looking a little suspect, as well, but I won't make that determination until tomorrow night.

The Airport has received 7.1", but they're usually one of the lowest amounts.  S Midvale/N Sandy has probably a foot out there with, again, more falling and more on the way.  They're trying to plow right now, but are fighting a losing effort for right now...

OMG A WHOLE FOOT OF SNOW!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on January 11, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
The fact this this Oldies guy seemingly has 75% of the forum in an uproar whenever he posts is too funny. I don't think I've ever read one of his posts.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 11, 2013, 06:00:20 PM
The fact this this Oldies guy seemingly has 75% of the forum in an uproar whenever he posts is too funny. I don't think I've ever read one of his posts.

You should. It's comedic gold.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on January 11, 2013, 06:12:57 PM
The fact this this Oldies guy seemingly has 75% of the forum in an uproar whenever he posts is too funny. I don't think I've ever read one of his posts.

You should. It's comedic gold.

Silver.  Bushie is gold.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 11, 2013, 07:52:08 PM
The fact this this Oldies guy seemingly has 75% of the forum in an uproar whenever he posts is too funny. I don't think I've ever read one of his posts.

You should. It's comedic gold.

Silver.  Bushie is gold.
Who gets Bronze?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on January 12, 2013, 06:54:38 PM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on January 12, 2013, 07:13:13 PM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 07:43:46 PM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?

He was. Nobody was ever in danger, as he had no weapon on him. He was just an idiot, and idiocy of a sufficient scale is, as you say, totally awesome by virtue of its comedic value. Bro. I'd hate to be the kid whose dad did that, though...

All he actually did was, as ChairmanSanchez noted in the other thread, was disturbing the peace and trespassing. Both of which, on the first offense in most places, get a slap on the wrist. Instead he'll likely be sent to prison for terrorism.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on January 12, 2013, 07:46:18 PM
Click for context.



Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 12, 2013, 07:59:45 PM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?

He was. Nobody was ever in danger, as he had no weapon on him. He was just an idiot, and idiocy of a sufficient scale is, as you say, totally awesome by virtue of its comedic value. Bro. I'd hate to be the kid whose dad did that, though...

All he actually did was, as ChairmanSanchez noted in the other thread, was disturbing the peace and trespassing. Both of which, on the first offense in most places, get a slap on the wrist. Instead he'll likely be sent to prison for terrorism.

I'm glad you think scaring the hell out of people (probably little children included) to make a dumb political point is "awesome."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 08:20:35 PM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?

He was. Nobody was ever in danger, as he had no weapon on him. He was just an idiot, and idiocy of a sufficient scale is, as you say, totally awesome by virtue of its comedic value. Bro. I'd hate to be the kid whose dad did that, though...

All he actually did was, as ChairmanSanchez noted in the other thread, was disturbing the peace and trespassing. Both of which, on the first offense in most places, get a slap on the wrist. Instead he'll likely be sent to prison for terrorism.

I'm glad you think scaring the hell out of people (probably little children included) to make a dumb political point is "awesome."

It's not the act itself so much as the line of reasoning that led to it.

1. There have been numerous school shootings recently.
2. There could be one at my child's school.
3. I have to make this less likely somehow.
4. I've got it -- I can arrive and test their security system by pretending to be an armed intruder!

The fact that this line of reasoning actually went through someone's head at some point is so funny that I do find it "awesome." Sorry if that offends you, I guess?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on January 13, 2013, 12:33:08 AM
Haha, that's awesome. Really, he shouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist, though unfortunately he'll probably end up getting some significant jailtime.

You didn't think that psychopath was being totally "awesome", bro?

He was. Nobody was ever in danger, as he had no weapon on him. He was just an idiot, and idiocy of a sufficient scale is, as you say, totally awesome by virtue of its comedic value. Bro. I'd hate to be the kid whose dad did that, though...

All he actually did was, as ChairmanSanchez noted in the other thread, was disturbing the peace and trespassing. Both of which, on the first offense in most places, get a slap on the wrist. Instead he'll likely be sent to prison for terrorism.

I'm glad you think scaring the hell out of people (probably little children included) to make a dumb political point is "awesome."

Why do you assume he was making a political point?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 13, 2013, 02:59:13 AM
Vosem, you're not funny. You are terrible. Please go away and don't come back until you are a better human being.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on January 13, 2013, 08:54:07 AM
He has a point here, though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 13, 2013, 12:58:15 PM
Booker, to allow the GOP a chance at winning the seat.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 13, 2013, 01:22:01 PM
I hope Scott Brown does win John Kerry's senate seat though. He'll run on being a moderate this time to distance himself from GOP hard right.
I couldn't agree more.  And as for Warren being dangerous, it's because she's the first official elected on the strength of the Occupy protesters.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 13, 2013, 02:29:56 PM

How is this any different than when Democrats vote strategically in Republican primaries?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on January 13, 2013, 02:34:11 PM

How is this any different than when Democrats vote strategically in Republican primaries?

It's absurd because Booker is far more electable than Lautenberg.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 13, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Just because of the absurdity of the hypothesis.

So people should not be encouraged to break laws that infringe upon their rights so as to enable those laws to be challenged in court? That would be news to Homer Plessy, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, etc.

The issus is than an Attorney-General does it.

If the Attorney General of Mississippi in 1850 encouraged people to help slaves escape to the north, would you oppose it?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 13, 2013, 04:45:26 PM

How is this any different than when Democrats vote strategically in Republican primaries?

It's absurd because Booker is far more electable than Lautenberg.

This.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on January 13, 2013, 06:25:28 PM
They're a reality in the civilized Western countries.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 14, 2013, 12:57:32 PM
Urban - Democratic
Suburban - Swing
Rural - Republican

That is why I find US politics so interesting, America is a suburban country, whoever wins the suburbs wins the election.

Take Colorado for example, if you win Jefferson and Arapahoe counties you win the state.
Yeah but suburban usually equals Democrat outside the South, Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Orange County, CA.  The reason, in two words: social issues.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on January 14, 2013, 04:16:08 PM
This guy's a real piece of work:

he pointed out, there are many biases to Labour in the current set-up; not only unequal constituency sizes but also differential turnout and the differing size of majorities (that is to say, 'efficiency'). Which was all very true, but no distraction from the fact that if any of those biases could be ironed out by legislation, they should be ironed out.

Actually, much of it could be ironed out with PR. But your party only wishes to remove the biases that don't work in your favour.

Per contra. My party wishes to iron out biases against us, but not actually allow the Great 'Progressive' Middle-Class Leftist Coalition Masturbatathon to impose "lock out the Tories out forever" as a supposedly noble aim of the whole bloody electoral system. Put at its bluntest, if the Tories win more votes than anyone else, the Tories should form the Government.

PR doesn't allow that. In this country, with our electoral system (and let's not pretend all our century-old established parties would just split up at PR), it means hung Parliaments forever with Liberals commanding the central kingmaker position. (And just look how marvellously well that's working out). In this country, PR would not be fair. It may mean seats are allocated in proportion with electoral results - a superficial degree of 'fairness' that might fool a moron - but power would be locked in with the left. Fair? Give over. It's a bloody entrenchment of bias.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: CatoMinor on January 14, 2013, 06:33:14 PM
I wouldn't consider what this community intends to practice as libertarianism. It's more like anti-state authoritarianism.

I was talking about the return to serfdom in the guise of liberty, not this commune (lol) itself.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 15, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
More important than that, though, March 1 is the eve of my son's 9th birthday.  Felix will be 9 years old on March 2.  (14:00 3/1/2013 in Utah).


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on January 17, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
Very simple if we don't breed we die as a species. Family lines have died out because of illness, early death, choice to not breed but our very existance is seriously under threat with society accepting and promoting homosexuality ahead of hetrosexuality.

In workplaces, gay people are viewed favourably by managements as they have no outside pressures and don't demand holiday/time off/sick pay with hetrosexuals having children.

Sales, marketing companies continue to promote products and services to a gay audience as they have large disposable incomes as they have very little outgoings compared to familes.

If your young be gay as you will have tons of money.

Our society is rapidly changing, homosexuality is increasing dramatically with men and childbirth is decreasing in developed countires. Only minorities due to large immigrations are distorting the figures.

If we continue at the same rate - stats from 2002-2012, by 2035 more than 50% of the male popualtion in america will be gay.

that can't sustain a population.




Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 17, 2013, 01:39:54 PM
^^I was too lazy to copy and repost that.....but it belongs here.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on January 17, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
Allegedly Richard Nixon was pro choice in order to rid the country of mixed race babies like Barack Obama.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on January 18, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
Call Me Maybe is one of the greatest pieces of music ever produced.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on January 18, 2013, 06:44:52 AM
Uh, this is factually correct. Richard Nixon supported legal abortion in cases of rape or miscenegation.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 18, 2013, 07:30:20 AM
Uh, this is factually correct. Richard Nixon supported legal abortion in cases of rape or miscenegation.
There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on January 18, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
Uh, this is factually correct. Richard Nixon supported legal abortion in cases of rape or miscenegation.
There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white. Or a rape.
That statement hardly earns him the label "pro-choice." Instead, he's making a point similar to the position of most "pro lifers." It's only acceptable under extreme circumstances. That Nixon and today's pro-lifers disagree on what constitutes an extreme circumstance matters very little as to whether or not how you could anachronistically label him.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 18, 2013, 11:02:24 AM

You know that was a joke, right?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 19, 2013, 11:46:27 AM
$6500 per child on transit? I'm not at all versed in local NYC politics, but I'm tempted to call shenanigans. Somebody on the right has done some creative accounting. And NYC is one of the few US cities with decent public transit options, so I'm not sure what those comments are about. But you can't blame bus drivers for wanting some job security. Who wants to lose their job?

You aren't at all versed in much of anything.

Since you are so ignorant I'll just tell you that that number comes from these leftist fiends at the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/nyregion/new-york-school-bus-drivers-go-on-strike.html?ref=michaelrbloomberg)

Or, alternatively, from leftist Michael Bloomberg (http://schools.nyc.gov/Offices/mediarelations/NewsandSpeeches/2012-2013/mayor_on_potential_bus_strike.htm)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 19, 2013, 05:28:16 PM
Vermont.  I went to Washington, Montpelier, Chelsea, and Burlington VT on a mission trip 10 years ago during Spring Break.  I have great fondness of Vermont, especially the Christians that live up there.  The Christians that live in Vermont are some of the most dedicated and devoted people I've ever met in a culture seemingly dominated by witchcraft.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 19, 2013, 06:02:58 PM
Why should jamespol be banned if people like J. J. and krazen aren't?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 20, 2013, 12:30:44 AM
Why should jamespol be banned if people like J. J. and krazen aren't?

You're obsession with J.J. and krazen is creepy.......please stop

The point is that jamespol is a clever poster who has provided the forum with tons of hilarity and amusement in the past (not necessarily with his current incarnation mind you), while those two are nothing but complete hackish wastes of bandwidth.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: bgwah on January 20, 2013, 12:45:33 AM
I can tell you missed the "Dumb fock Milkado" days, Berger.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 20, 2013, 02:41:28 AM
Yeah, he did. Even Inks of all people liked jamespol back then.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on January 20, 2013, 02:53:01 AM
Gubernatorial Election:
[ 2 ] Tmthforu94
[ 1 ] drj101

Assembly Election:

[ 1 ] drj10
[ 2 ] Gass3268
[ 3 ] TexasDemocrat
[ 4 ] Clinton1996
[ 5 ] Write-In: someone who isn't a goddamn pony fycking creeper
[ 6 ] Write-In: a nosepeg, a pair of disposable rubber gloves and a shower
[ 7 ] Write-In: Dear God, what did I ever do to deserve this?
[ 8 ] Write-In: I mean, other than that, obviously...
[ 9 ] Write-In: Very well. Point taken...
[ 10 ] a Person
[ 11 ] Write-In: I feel dirty now
[ 12 ] Write-In: so, so, so dirty...



Question: Can anyone explain to Mr Widdershins why he is a fycking idiot?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on January 20, 2013, 02:56:09 AM
Gubernatorial Election:
[ 2 ] Tmthforu94
[ 1 ] drj101

Assembly Election:

[ 1 ] drj10
[ 2 ] Gass3268
[ 3 ] TexasDemocrat
[ 4 ] Clinton1996
[ 5 ] Write-In: someone who isn't a goddamn pony fycking creeper
[ 6 ] Write-In: a nosepeg, a pair of disposable rubber gloves and a shower
[ 7 ] Write-In: Dear God, what did I ever do to deserve this?
[ 8 ] Write-In: I mean, other than that, obviously...
[ 9 ] Write-In: Very well. Point taken...
[ 10 ] a Person
[ 11 ] Write-In: I feel dirty now
[ 12 ] Write-In: so, so, so dirty...



Question: Can anyone explain to Mr Widdershins why he is a fycking idiot?

He's probably aware at this point that he should not have done that. So, no.

If he's that dirty, a shower is in order.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on January 20, 2013, 02:57:17 AM
Gubernatorial Election:
[ 2 ] Tmthforu94
[ 1 ] drj101

Assembly Election:

[ 1 ] drj10
[ 2 ] Gass3268
[ 3 ] TexasDemocrat
[ 4 ] Clinton1996
[ 5 ] Write-In: someone who isn't a goddamn pony fycking creeper
[ 6 ] Write-In: a nosepeg, a pair of disposable rubber gloves and a shower
[ 7 ] Write-In: Dear God, what did I ever do to deserve this?
[ 8 ] Write-In: I mean, other than that, obviously...
[ 9 ] Write-In: Very well. Point taken...
[ 10 ] a Person
[ 11 ] Write-In: I feel dirty now
[ 12 ] Write-In: so, so, so dirty...



Question: Can anyone explain to Mr Widdershins why he is a fycking idiot?

He's probably aware at this point that he should not have done that. So, no.

If he's that dirty, a shower is in order.

No, try again.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 20, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
Gustaf seems to have a better understanding of racism and sexism than just about anyone on the forum.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on January 20, 2013, 02:25:23 PM
This is a new low, even for Oldies:

I didn't think LBJ's reputation ever suffered that much.  And he only signed civil rights legislation to get ahead politically.  In the Senate, he repeatedly blocked civil rights bills.  He also is on record as making some very racist statements:

On his nomination of Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court
Quote
Son, when I appoint a nig**r to the court, I want everyone to know he's a nig**r.

After signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964
Quote
I'll have those nig**rs voting Democratic for the next 200 years.

As a Senator, on the Civil Rights Act of 1957
Quote
"These Negroes, they‘re getting pretty uppity these days and that‘s a problem for us since they‘ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we‘ve got to do something about this, we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference."

Try finding a source for any of those quotes.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 21, 2013, 12:28:09 AM
Try finding a source for any of those quotes.

Sure thing.

#1: http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/21/books/on-the-way-with-lbj.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Quote from: The New York Times
Mr. Dallek quotes him defending the Supreme Court appointment of the very well-known Thurgood Marshall, rather than a black judge less identified with the civil rights cause, by saying to a staff member, "Son, when I appoint a n to the court, I want everyone to know he's a n."

#2: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-relentless-conservative/the-democratic-partys-two_b_933995.html

Quote from: The Huffington Post
"I'll have those ns voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
~ Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

#3: http://www.fdfny.org/blog/2011/09/18/these-uppity-negroes-lbj/

Quote from: The Fredrick Douglass Foundation
”These Negroes, they‘re getting pretty uppity these days and that‘s a problem for us since they‘ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we‘ve got to do something about this, we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”

~Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)

President Lyndon Baines Johnson, And is “Great Society” to help the Negro… was recorded on a White House taped (and saved) conversation claiming, “I’ll have them ns voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.”

These sources enough for you? ::) Sorry to break it to you, but LBJ was no great lover of the black man. I do this out of no love for Oldiesfreak- just that I didn't think you shouldn't be able to get away with claiming that what I knew were three very real quotes were fabrications.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on January 21, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
Try finding a source for any of those quotes.

Sure thing.

#1: http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/21/books/on-the-way-with-lbj.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Quote from: The New York Times
Mr. Dallek quotes him defending the Supreme Court appointment of the very well-known Thurgood Marshall, rather than a black judge less identified with the civil rights cause, by saying to a staff member, "Son, when I appoint a n to the court, I want everyone to know he's a n."

#2: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-relentless-conservative/the-democratic-partys-two_b_933995.html

Quote from: The Huffington Post
"I'll have those ns voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
~ Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

#3: http://www.fdfny.org/blog/2011/09/18/these-uppity-negroes-lbj/

Quote from: The Fredrick Douglass Foundation
”These Negroes, they‘re getting pretty uppity these days and that‘s a problem for us since they‘ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we‘ve got to do something about this, we‘ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”

~Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)

President Lyndon Baines Johnson, And is “Great Society” to help the Negro… was recorded on a White House taped (and saved) conversation claiming, “I’ll have them ns voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.”

These sources enough for you? ::) Sorry to break it to you, but LBJ was no great lover of the black man. I do this out of no love for Oldiesfreak- just that I didn't think you shouldn't be able to get away with claiming that what I knew were three very real quotes were fabrications.

Thank you, I stand corrected. I fully admit that I was wrong here. When I googled the quotes only a bunch of non-reputable sources came up.

As for LBJ, I'm no fan of the guy either, in fact this came up in a thread where I was arguing that liberals give LBJ way too much credit nowadays.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 21, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
GPORTER is a freaking Balzac as compared to this kid:

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

1969-1972 MLK has grown in popularity, many people consider for him to run for politics, especially in 1970, he said no, mainly because his seat that he is aiming for isn't up until 1974. MLK still is encouraging, and talking to the African-American community.


questions? corrections? comments? if not, I can continue, oh, and I have a question, should I do this?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 21, 2013, 12:33:29 PM


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on January 21, 2013, 12:36:09 PM
GPORTER is a freaking Balzac as compared to this kid:

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

1969-1972 MLK has grown in popularity, many people consider for him to run for politics, especially in 1970, he said no, mainly because his seat that he is aiming for isn't up until 1974. MLK still is encouraging, and talking to the African-American community.


questions? corrections? comments? if not, I can continue, oh, and I have a question, should I do this?

Just when I think the "what if Churchill was a Republican" was the dumbest thing he could come up with...


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 21, 2013, 12:37:07 PM
GPORTER is a freaking Balzac as compared to this kid:

another innocent and good poster banned as Antonio, Kalwjet and King are still posting mean things. Whet will people like them let me write in peace?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 21, 2013, 12:40:03 PM
What is absurd is the assertion that the tendency of a Texan born in 1908 to use a certain taboo word and to express certain things in ways that would now raise eyebrows means anything other than the fact he was a Texan born in 1908. Especially when said Texan was not exactly noted for his delicate language in private.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on January 21, 2013, 01:10:29 PM
Mormon: 72/27 Romney
Christian Orthodox: 68/31 Romney
Protestant: 57/42 Romney
Catholic: 53/46 Obama
Jewish: 66/33 Obama
Buddhist: 79/20 Obama
Hindu: 81/18 Obama
Muslim: 86/13 Obama
Atheist: 87/12 Obama


English Americans: 51/48 Obama
Scottish Americans: 50/49 Obama
Scandinavian Americans:50/49 Romney
Irish Americans: 51/48 Romney
German Americans: 55/44 Romney
Italian Americans: 56/43 Romney
Polish Americans: 59/41 Romney
ALL White Americans: 59/41 Romney
Russian Americans: 66/33 Romney
Ukrainian Americans: 69/30 Romney
Greek Americans: 71/28 Romney

Pakistani Americans: 89/10 Obama
Indian Americans: 80/19 Obama
Chinese Americans: 79/20 Obama
Korean Americans: 74/25 Obama
ALL Asian Americans: 73/26 Obama
Filipino Americans: 54/45 Obama
Vietnamese Americans: 57/42 Romney

Mexican Americans: 79/20 Obama
ALL Hispanic Americans: 72/26
Cuban Americans: 57/42 Obama

African Americans:96/4 Obama

Native Americans: 62/36 Obama


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 21, 2013, 01:14:37 PM
What's with the Greek numbers? Not that that's the only absurd thing. I should probably be offended by the Scandinavian one.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on January 21, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
What's with the Greek numbers? Not that that's the only absurd thing. I should probably be offended by the Scandinavian one.

Greeks probably voted for Obama; they're concentrated in Northeast urban cores (Poles were probably pretty close, but the fact that many are Jews probably skews it to Obama). Scandinavians definitely voted for Obama. On the flipside, Romney did much better with Germans than 55%, and Obama certainly didn't win English Americans.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 21, 2013, 01:27:36 PM
Well yeah that's my point. There's no way Greeks voted for Romney at all, much less over 70% Romney. Actually he has Greeks as only one point less Romney than Mormons.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on January 21, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Gubernatorial Election:
[ 2 ] Tmthforu94
[ 1 ] drj101

Assembly Election:

[ 1 ] drj10
[ 2 ] Gass3268
[ 3 ] TexasDemocrat
[ 4 ] Clinton1996
[ 5 ] Write-In: someone who isn't a goddamn pony fycking creeper
[ 6 ] Write-In: a nosepeg, a pair of disposable rubber gloves and a shower
[ 7 ] Write-In: Dear God, what did I ever do to deserve this?
[ 8 ] Write-In: I mean, other than that, obviously...
[ 9 ] Write-In: Very well. Point taken...
[ 10 ] a Person
[ 11 ] Write-In: I feel dirty now
[ 12 ] Write-In: so, so, so dirty...



Question: Can anyone explain to Mr Widdershins why he is a fycking idiot?

Nobody, eh?

Similar reasons to here (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=167286.msg3584425#msg3584425) are a part of it…

(1) A candidate's television preferences (because, again, that's all you can infer) have got to be up there with height, hair, and handsomeness on the list of retarded voting criteria.
(2) Look… I've specifically stopped posting about ponies, because it's clear the forum doesn't like it. Whether I agree with that or not is irrelevant. And still you persist with this infantile nonsense… What more do you want me to do? Stop responding to direct attacks as well? Change my fycking username?
(3), and most hilarious of all, drj101, to whom Mr Widdershins gave both of his first preferences without a murmur, is also a *cough* "pony fycking creeper."


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 21, 2013, 02:15:31 PM
Who cares?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on January 21, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
Gubernatorial Election:
[ 2 ] Tmthforu94
[ 1 ] drj101

Assembly Election:

[ 1 ] drj10
[ 2 ] Gass3268
[ 3 ] TexasDemocrat
[ 4 ] Clinton1996
[ 5 ] Write-In: someone who isn't a goddamn pony fycking creeper
[ 6 ] Write-In: a nosepeg, a pair of disposable rubber gloves and a shower
[ 7 ] Write-In: Dear God, what did I ever do to deserve this?
[ 8 ] Write-In: I mean, other than that, obviously...
[ 9 ] Write-In: Very well. Point taken...
[ 10 ] a Person
[ 11 ] Write-In: I feel dirty now
[ 12 ] Write-In: so, so, so dirty...



Question: Can anyone explain to Mr Widdershins why he is a fycking idiot?

Nobody, eh?

Similar reasons to here (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=167286.msg3584425#msg3584425) are a part of it…

(1) A candidate's television preferences (because, again, that's all you can infer) have got to be up there with height, hair, and handsomeness on the list of retarded voting criteria.
(2) Look… I've specifically stopped posting about ponies, because it's clear the forum doesn't like it. Whether I agree with that or not is irrelevant. And still you persist with this infantile nonsense… What more do you want me to do? Stop responding to direct attacks as well? Change my fycking username?
(3), and most hilarious of all, drj101, to whom Mr Widdershins gave both of his first preferences without a murmur, is also a *cough* "pony fycking creeper."


"Infantile" may not be the best word to use considering the television program in question.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on January 21, 2013, 02:23:18 PM
a Person, as a fellow "ponyfyker", just let it go. It's a joke.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 21, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
I think you're missing the point. I just don't like you in general (mostly you're a whiner). I'm sure that if you weren't a brrrroenee I would have found something else to point and laugh at.

Have a nice day!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 21, 2013, 02:36:03 PM
Don't feel bad, a Person. It's not like Al hates just you. Al hates everybody.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 21, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
This isn't a thread to express butthurt feelings.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on January 21, 2013, 02:39:57 PM
This isn't a thread to express butthurt feelings.
Thats what opinion of x are for.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 21, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
What is absurd is the assertion that the tendency of a Texan born in 1908 to use a certain taboo word and to express certain things in ways that would now raise eyebrows means anything other than the fact he was a Texan born in 1908. Especially when said Texan was not exactly noted for his delicate language in private.
That doesn't mean he wasn't racist though.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 21, 2013, 04:04:13 PM
What is absurd is the assertion that the tendency of a Texan born in 1908 to use a certain taboo word and to express certain things in ways that would now raise eyebrows means anything other than the fact he was a Texan born in 1908. Especially when said Texan was not exactly noted for his delicate language in private.
That doesn't mean he wasn't racist though.

Everyone born in 1908 was likely racist.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 21, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
BRTD, that Church is weird. It's like some Obama-government-funded, Lena-Dunham-inspired state-run community center.

EXACTLY. That's the whole point. Especially the Lena Dunham part.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on January 21, 2013, 04:44:31 PM
What is absurd is the assertion that the tendency of a Texan born in 1908 to use a certain taboo word and to express certain things in ways that would now raise eyebrows means anything other than the fact he was a Texan born in 1908. Especially when said Texan was not exactly noted for his delicate language in private.
That doesn't mean he wasn't racist though.

Everyone born in 1908 was likely racist.

Not quite everyone. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurgood_Marshall)


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 21, 2013, 09:54:34 PM
I have started the water drinking today, though. I didn't drink as much as I wanted to, but I'm just getting started!


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 21, 2013, 09:56:13 PM
I have started the water drinking today, though. I didn't drink as much as I wanted to, but I'm just getting started!


Why is this post bad?


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on January 21, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
I have started the water drinking today, though. I didn't drink as much as I wanted to, but I'm just getting started!


Why is this post bad?

Because the average person needs 1.9 liters of water a day, and not getting that for an extended period entails a significant risk to your health, which is entirely avoidable in the US.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Zanas on January 22, 2013, 04:38:36 AM
For much of its life, the European Parliament could have been justly labeled a 'multi-lingual talking shop'. But this is no longer the case: the EP is now one of the most powerful legislatures in the world both in terms of its legislative and executive oversight powers.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 22, 2013, 11:35:39 AM
I have started the water drinking today, though. I didn't drink as much as I wanted to, but I'm just getting started!


Why is this post bad?

It's not bad; it's absurd.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 22, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
Don't you mean Los Angeles?

Anyway, that's my vote.
Sorry about that ill Correct that
Sorry ill fix that to include California


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 22, 2013, 12:53:13 PM
Not sure whether it's more "absurd", "ignorant", or just "bad".


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on January 22, 2013, 01:10:11 PM
clicks for ze contexts

Toss-up.  New Jersey has some awesome rock musicians (Frankie Valli, Bruce Springsteen, Bon Jovi, etc.), but they also voted for McClellan in 1864 :(.  Connecticut also gave us Lowell Weicker, Prescott Bush and Joe Lieberman.  Still, New Jersey's got some good things going for it.  Still toss-up.

lol Oldiesfreak. 


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 22, 2013, 01:24:55 PM
I'm sure he's not serious. That, or mentally deranged. He's literally one or the other.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on January 25, 2013, 12:37:42 AM
Republicans declare war on liberal hacks and historical revisionists, Oldiesfreak to lead the charge.

Should we rename this thread in 'honor' of Oldiesfreak? Because seriously, now…


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 25, 2013, 12:40:06 AM
The Oldiesfreak Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance and Bad Posts has a nice ring to it.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on January 25, 2013, 06:28:23 AM
Philadelphia MS was the one where those civil rights workers were killed, wasn't it?

Yes.  Precisely why I voted for Philadelphia, PA


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 25, 2013, 08:40:24 AM
The Oldiesfreak Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance and Bad Posts has a nice ring to it.
Republicans declare war on liberal hacks and historical revisionists, Oldiesfreak to lead the charge.

Should we rename this thread in 'honor' of Oldiesfreak? Because seriously, now…
I can't help it if you can't stand up to facts.  Or should I say this instead:
http://www.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 25, 2013, 09:01:35 AM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on January 25, 2013, 10:37:21 AM
The first sentence here is to an extent accurate (or, at least, you won't do very well or last very long) but the second is, uh...

You can't be a dumb f-ck and join up.  As has been discussed before, the average person in the military is better than the average person not in the military.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 25, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
Ouch!  You guys are mean!!!

On second thought, I'm humbled that a thread was named after me.


Title: Re: The New Atlas Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on January 25, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
Does not belong here. The reply to it, on the other hand...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 25, 2013, 03:05:42 PM
On second thought, I'm humbled that a thread was named after me.

It's the 'Memorial Deluge' because (assuming a maximum human lifespan of ~122.5 years) you probably died in 1988.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 26, 2013, 01:38:18 AM
I would argue all of them are of equal importance, however even though I personally like the 1st, 4th, and 10th best, the 2nd is the only one which guarantees the ability to protect the others.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on January 26, 2013, 03:13:50 AM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on January 26, 2013, 03:47:21 AM

hahahaha


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 26, 2013, 07:02:47 AM
Last time I checked, President Bush wasn't a bad president.  I'm a Democrat, but IMO, he was the better person to handle 9/11.  President Bush was also far from "dumb".  He is extremely intelligent (almost too much for his own good).  He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a bad president, either.  I think history will smile on his administration overall.  Iraq was not a mistake, initially, it was IMPERATIVE to get Saddam Hussein out of there.  The problem lies in not being prepared for such a quick and decisive victory over the Saddam regime.  Al Gore would have been alright, but he's just not a likeable guy.  President Obama, OTOH, is very likeable and very intelligtent.  Al Gore needs to stay in the background, otherwise he will pretty much guarantee a Republican will be inaugurated on January 20, 2017.  Also, Hillary is far from a guarantee.  Even if she does run, she's not automatically going to win.  America is still a center-right country.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can call George W. Bush dumb and be correct.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 26, 2013, 09:31:20 AM
I would argue all of them are of equal importance, however even though I personally like the 1st, 4th, and 10th best, the 2nd is the only one which guarantees the ability to protect the others.

He's correct.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 26, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
I would argue all of them are of equal importance, however even though I personally like the 1st, 4th, and 10th best, the 2nd is the only one which guarantees the ability to protect the others.

I fail too see what's absurd, ignorant, or bad about that post...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 26, 2013, 02:09:23 PM
ROFL


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 26, 2013, 02:43:09 PM

What a convincing argument! You have completely changed my opinion of the 2nd amendment!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on January 26, 2013, 02:54:55 PM
I would argue all of them are of equal importance, however even though I personally like the 1st, 4th, and 10th best, the 2nd is the only one which guarantees the ability to protect the others.

I fail too see what's absurd, ignorant, or bad about that post...

I'd like to remind the Libs on this forum, this isn't for partisan hackery.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on January 26, 2013, 03:18:00 PM
I would argue all of them are of equal importance, however even though I personally like the 1st, 4th, and 10th best, the 2nd is the only one which guarantees the ability to protect the others.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 26, 2013, 03:34:22 PM
I mean, I guess he's technically correct, but it's a dumb non sequitor that doesn't have anything to do with anything.

Well that and the idea that the right to own a weapon as part of a militia is even comparable in significance to basic, internationally-recognized freedoms/rights like free expression or due process.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 26, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
There's no way to argue rationally with someone who seriously thinks that, in the 21st century, our sole defense against tyranny is represented by some random nutjob with his rifle. There's nothing to do but laugh (or cry, depending on the mood).


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 26, 2013, 05:11:47 PM
There's no way to argue rationally with someone who seriously thinks that, in the 21st century, our sole defense against tyranny is represented by some random nutjob with his rifle that Americans shouldn't have our right to keep and bear arms. There's nothing to do but laugh (or cry, depending on the mood).


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 26, 2013, 05:35:39 PM
There's no way to argue rationally with someone who seriously thinks that, in the 21st century, our sole defense against tyranny is represented by some random nutjob with his rifle that Americans shouldn't have our right to keep and bear arms. There's nothing to do but laugh (or cry, depending on the mood).

Sam, what Jbrase and many others have said is not simply that Americans have the right to own a gun. I think they should have that right. What Jbrase said is that privately owned guns protect Americans from tyranny, and that's not true. The government isn't waiting with bated breath for everyone to put down their guns so that it can send us all to death camps.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 26, 2013, 07:07:10 PM
Most Democrats, the moronic lefties... love to redefine actual events as inaccurate and paint over the inconvenient and painful truths;

Calm down, bro. A sizable portion of your party believes the Earth is ~6,000 years old.

Which isn't necessarily wrong.  I personally believe the earth is millions of years old, but that man is ~6,000 years old, based on the Bible which is infallible.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 26, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
Most Democrats, the moronic lefties... love to redefine actual events as inaccurate and paint over the inconvenient and painful truths;

Calm down, bro. A sizable portion of your party believes the Earth is ~6,000 years old.

Which isn't necessarily wrong.  I personally believe the earth is millions of years old, but that man is ~6,000 years old, based on the Bible which is infallible.

Beat me to it. I WISH I read that one wrong.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 26, 2013, 07:10:21 PM
Most Democrats, the moronic lefties... love to redefine actual events as inaccurate and paint over the inconvenient and painful truths;

Calm down, bro. A sizable portion of your party believes the Earth is ~6,000 years old.

Which isn't necessarily wrong.  I personally believe the earth is millions of years old, but that man is ~6,000 years old, based on the Bible which is infallible.

Beat me to it. I WISH I read that one wrong.

It's best never to assume that with the poster in question.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 27, 2013, 01:43:23 AM
There's no way to argue rationally with someone who seriously thinks that, in the 21st century, our sole defense against tyranny is represented by some random nutjob with his rifle that Americans shouldn't have our right to keep and bear arms. There's nothing to do but laugh (or cry, depending on the mood).

There's a huge difference between supporting people's rights to private firearm ownership and believing that a bunch of a rednecks with some cheap knockoffs of military weapons are the only thing preventing some type of Nazi/Stalinist dictatorship from taking over.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 27, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
And no, Christians are not stupid, just as not all blacks are lazy, not all Irish are drunks, and not all Jews are greedy.  You can never make generalizations like that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on January 27, 2013, 12:16:38 PM
And no, Christians are not stupid, just as not all blacks are lazy, not all Irish are drunks, and not all Jews are greedy.  You can never make generalizations like that.

Not to defend Oldiesfreak, but what's bad about that post?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 27, 2013, 12:18:56 PM
And no, Christians are not stupid, just as not all blacks are lazy, not all Irish are drunks, and not all Jews are greedy.  You can never make generalizations like that.

Not to defend Oldiesfreak, but what's bad about that post?

The implications are just amazing. Not all blacks are lazy? Not all Jews are greedy? How good of him to recognize that there are some good ones out there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on January 27, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
And no, Christians are not stupid, just as not all blacks are lazy, not all Irish are drunks, and not all Jews are greedy.  You can never make generalizations like that.

Not to defend Oldiesfreak, but what's bad about that post?

The implications are just amazing. Not all blacks are lazy? Not all Jews are greedy? How good of him to recognize that there are some good ones out there.

Ok, I just read it as saying that stereotypes aren't usually true, but I see what you mean. Might have just been poor wording though.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 27, 2013, 01:23:35 PM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SPC on January 27, 2013, 03:34:47 PM
And no, Christians are not stupid, just as not all blacks are lazy, not all Irish are drunks, and not all Jews are greedy.  You can never make generalizations like that.

Not to defend Oldiesfreak, but what's bad about that post?

The implications are just amazing. Not all blacks are lazy? Not all Jews are greedy? How good of him to recognize that there are some good ones out there.

Not to mention that this is a guy who stereotypes anyone south of the Mason-Dixon line as racist.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 27, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
Last time I checked, President Bush wasn't a bad president.  I'm a Democrat, but IMO, he was the better person to handle 9/11.  President Bush was also far from "dumb".  He is extremely intelligent (almost too much for his own good).  He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a bad president, either.  I think history will smile on his administration overall.  Iraq was not a mistake, initially, it was IMPERATIVE to get Saddam Hussein out of there.  The problem lies in not being prepared for such a quick and decisive victory over the Saddam regime.  Al Gore would have been alright, but he's just not a likeable guy.  President Obama, OTOH, is very likeable and very intelligtent.  Al Gore needs to stay in the background, otherwise he will pretty much guarantee a Republican will be inaugurated on January 20, 2017.  Also, Hillary is far from a guarantee.  Even if she does run, she's not automatically going to win.  America is still a center-right country.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can call George W. Bush dumb and be correct.
That's not an absurd, ignorant, or bad post because it's true, aside from America being a center-right country (it's actually center-left).


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 27, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
Last time I checked, President Bush wasn't a bad president.  I'm a Democrat, but IMO, he was the better person to handle 9/11.  President Bush was also far from "dumb".  He is extremely intelligent (almost too much for his own good).  He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a bad president, either.  I think history will smile on his administration overall.  Iraq was not a mistake, initially, it was IMPERATIVE to get Saddam Hussein out of there.  The problem lies in not being prepared for such a quick and decisive victory over the Saddam regime.  Al Gore would have been alright, but he's just not a likeable guy.  President Obama, OTOH, is very likeable and very intelligtent.  Al Gore needs to stay in the background, otherwise he will pretty much guarantee a Republican will be inaugurated on January 20, 2017.  Also, Hillary is far from a guarantee.  Even if she does run, she's not automatically going to win.  America is still a center-right country.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can call George W. Bush dumb and be correct.
That's not an absurd, ignorant, or bad post because it's true, aside from America being a center-right country (it's actually center-left).

No, America defiantly a center-right country...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 27, 2013, 06:29:22 PM
Last time I checked, President Bush wasn't a bad president.  I'm a Democrat, but IMO, he was the better person to handle 9/11.  President Bush was also far from "dumb".  He is extremely intelligent (almost too much for his own good).  He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a bad president, either.  I think history will smile on his administration overall.  Iraq was not a mistake, initially, it was IMPERATIVE to get Saddam Hussein out of there.  The problem lies in not being prepared for such a quick and decisive victory over the Saddam regime.  Al Gore would have been alright, but he's just not a likeable guy.  President Obama, OTOH, is very likeable and very intelligtent.  Al Gore needs to stay in the background, otherwise he will pretty much guarantee a Republican will be inaugurated on January 20, 2017.  Also, Hillary is far from a guarantee.  Even if she does run, she's not automatically going to win.  America is still a center-right country.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can call George W. Bush dumb and be correct.
That's not an absurd, ignorant, or bad post because it's true, aside from America being a center-right country (it's actually center-left).

No, America defiantly a center-right country...

I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 27, 2013, 06:31:52 PM
I've always considered America a "center" country, with no allegiance to any particular ideology and a firm opposition to extremism.  I would contend that its early days (i.e. post colonization) were what we'd see today as 'conservative,' however.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 27, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Last time I checked, President Bush wasn't a bad president.  I'm a Democrat, but IMO, he was the better person to handle 9/11.  President Bush was also far from "dumb".  He is extremely intelligent (almost too much for his own good).  He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a bad president, either.  I think history will smile on his administration overall.  Iraq was not a mistake, initially, it was IMPERATIVE to get Saddam Hussein out of there.  The problem lies in not being prepared for such a quick and decisive victory over the Saddam regime.  Al Gore would have been alright, but he's just not a likeable guy.  President Obama, OTOH, is very likeable and very intelligtent.  Al Gore needs to stay in the background, otherwise he will pretty much guarantee a Republican will be inaugurated on January 20, 2017.  Also, Hillary is far from a guarantee.  Even if she does run, she's not automatically going to win.  America is still a center-right country.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can call George W. Bush dumb and be correct.
That's not an absurd, ignorant, or bad post because it's true, aside from America being a center-right country (it's actually center-left).

No, America defiantly a center-right country...

I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".

America is right-wing compared to most other countries, but I suppose the country as a whole isn't really center-right in an American context...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on January 27, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
Stop conversing.......just post


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on January 27, 2013, 07:53:48 PM
I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".

Tell me, Alfred, how many Americans in the latest polling have agreed with the statement "I would like my taxes to be higher."?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 27, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".

Tell me, Alfred, how many Americans in the latest polling have agreed with the statement "I would like my taxes to be higher."?

Warren Buffett, at least. And higher taxes doesn't mean higher taxes on middle-class Americans; people want to raise taxes on the rich, and that counts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on January 27, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".

Tell me, Alfred, how many Americans in the latest polling have agreed with the statement "I would like my taxes to be higher."?

Warren Buffett, at least. And higher taxes doesn't mean higher taxes on middle-class Americans; people want to raise taxes on the rich, and that counts.

People want taxes raised on everyone except themselves. The mercurial other.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on January 27, 2013, 11:21:52 PM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on January 28, 2013, 01:47:43 AM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 28, 2013, 05:57:01 AM
I don't think a country that supports universal health care, the AWB, abortion rights, and higher taxes while opposing cuts to Medicare and SS is "center-right".

Tell me, Alfred, how many Americans in the latest polling have agreed with the statement "I would like my taxes to be higher."?

Warren Buffett, at least. And higher taxes doesn't mean higher taxes on middle-class Americans; people want to raise taxes on the rich, and that counts.

People want taxes raised on everyone except themselves. The mercurial other.

Warren Buffett doesn't. And that's better than wanting spending cut for no one at all, not even themselves.

And this conversation has gone on too long, we should stop it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 28, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
In all seriousness, charts "country" followed by the other charts crap (Top40). Mostly because are, literally, music targeted towards morons. And rural(ish) white morons in the first case.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 28, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
He's obviously referring to mainstream pop-country there. I believe Lewis is a fan of Johnny Cash.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 28, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
He's obviously referring to mainstream pop-country there. I believe Lewis is a fan of Johnny Cash.

My problem isn't necessarily with his dislike of that kind of music, it's the painting of an entire music genre with a broad brush.  I don't believe in insulting any kind of music because I don't believe you have to have a certain degree of intelligence to enjoy something.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 28, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 28, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
Thanks for posting that directly into the Deluge.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 28, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 28, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SPC on January 28, 2013, 02:44:46 PM
In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 28, 2013, 07:14:28 PM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.
In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 28, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.

If you actually believe Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette, yes.

In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.

And basically all of those are dead today. Or if not dead out of politics and with no influence whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on January 29, 2013, 08:27:25 AM
He's obviously referring to mainstream pop-country there. I believe Lewis is a fan of Johnny Cash.

My problem isn't necessarily with his dislike of that kind of music, it's the painting of an entire music genre with a broad brush.  I don't believe in insulting any kind of music because I don't believe you have to have a certain degree of intelligence to enjoy something.
No, but having below a certain degree of intelligence and/or taste is frequently required.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 29, 2013, 09:03:43 AM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.

If you actually believe Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette, yes.

In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.

And basically all of those are dead today. Or if not dead out of politics and with no influence whatsoever.
Lincoln is dead today as well, but does he seriously not make you more likely to support Republicans?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 29, 2013, 09:07:36 AM
Lincoln is dead today as well, but does he seriously not make you more likely to support Republicans?

Of course he doesn't.  What kind of jackass supports a party because of one leader 150 years ago?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on January 29, 2013, 09:07:49 AM
Stop trolling, Oldies.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 29, 2013, 11:29:37 AM
Lincoln is dead today as well, but does he seriously not make you more likely to support Republicans?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 29, 2013, 11:42:25 AM
Another appropriate entry straight into the Deluge.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on January 29, 2013, 11:51:24 AM

I like to separate it from the noise.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on January 29, 2013, 01:10:07 PM
Can we just say https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9236;sa=showPosts and then never post another post, as it is cluttering the thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 29, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.
In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.

Yeah, but they started voting Republican on national, and then state, levels.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 29, 2013, 03:46:47 PM
Lincoln is dead today as well, but does he seriously not make you more likely to support Republicans?

Of course he doesn't.  What kind of jackass supports a party because of one leader 150 years ago?
Who would support a nation that interred Japanese Americans 70 years ago either?
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.
In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.

Yeah, but they started voting Republican on national, and then state, levels.
True, but it wasn't because of race. (http://claremont.org/publications/crb/id.928/article_detail.asp)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on January 29, 2013, 04:04:52 PM
Did you really just cite a visiting scholar from the American Enterprise Institute in an attempt to make your point?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 29, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Oldiesfreak decides to be absurd, ignorant and bad on a new topic today:

Well, favorite recent one: Kitzmiller vs. Dover Board of Education

Nova made a documentary about it a few years back: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/intelligent-design-trial.html

Intelligent Design was revealed as creationism and defeated in front of a Republican judge here in PA. But the whole backstory about how a few local yokels on the school board tried to consciously undermine science is really disturbing. Local reaction there was interestingly pretty much against them.

And of course this is another reason why I dislike local school boards. They should never be allowed to toy with an academic curriculum like that.
I have no problem with teachng intelligent design as a theory and alongside evolution (also taught as a theory and not a fact.)

Of course, Democrat William Jennings Bryan was also a creationist, so I don't know how he reconciles this.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on January 29, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
Was conveniently posted directly into the goldmine, but I will make it official.
A new SUSA poll shows these awful numbers for Christie:

Do you approve or disapprove of the job Chris Christie is doing as Governor?
Approve 38%
Disapprove 56%

Should Governor Chris Christie run for President of the United States in 2012? Not run for President? Or do you not know enough to say?
Should Run 15%
Should Not 73%

Compared to Barack Obama, would Christie be a better President? A worse President? Or would he be about the same?
Better 29%
Worse 53%
About The Same 14%

Compared to George W. Bush, would Christie be a better President? A worse President? Or would he be about the same?
Better 25%
Worse 30%
About The Same 32%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ef5275c-3166-493d-aecb-3d856c8705a5 (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ef5275c-3166-493d-aecb-3d856c8705a5)

I have a map in progress showing the ability of state governors to get good results for themselves. This looks like an outlier, and it is hard to see how Christie could suddenly become as unpopular as Scott, Kasich, Walker, or Snyder.
Exactly.  This is why I don't trust SurveyUSA polls in the first place.  Their first poll of Christie's approval had him underwater by  33-63% margin, if I remember correctly.
What's so funny about that?  The overwhelming majority of polls aside from SurveyUSA show Christie's job approval at an all-time high after Sandy.  Just because you may not like Christie doesn't mean that you can just ignore that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on January 29, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Where do people hear the word "theory" and learn it to be antonym of something based in fact?  It's something that's never been explained. 

I even hear pro-science groups dish out the definition "in science, a theory is not a guess but yada yada yada."    But, outside of science, the word doesn't even mean a guess.    Nobody uses the word theory to mean a guess.  Where do people learn to think of the word theory like this?  It makes about as much as if cook books dished out the disclaimer "in the world of cooking, chicken is not a vegetable."  The definition of the word is universal.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 29, 2013, 10:13:19 PM
Some people aren't aware of the difference between "theory" and "hypothesis"

A scientific theory by the way (like evolution) is defined as "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on January 29, 2013, 10:16:57 PM
Some people aren't aware of the difference between "theory" and "hypothesis"

Which makes the debate over teaching Christianity in schools all the more entertaining.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 30, 2013, 01:54:41 AM
But it's SurveyUSA, and their polls are garbage.  They also have consistently had Chris Christie's job approval in the low 30s, even when nearly every other poll had him in at least the 50s.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on January 30, 2013, 01:54:54 AM
This thread is a trainwreck.  There comes a point where people are criticizing oldiesfreak as absurd and are being absurd themselves in the way they are doing it.

Did you really just cite a visiting scholar from the American Enterprise Institute in an attempt to make your point?
argumentum ad hominem. Don't dismiss an argument just because the author has a particular association.
If you think the only reason someone would be a Democrat in the 1950s and a Republican a generation later is because of race, you've somehow missed the fundamental restructuring of the role of regionalism and ideology in political parties that is constantly discussed on this forum.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 30, 2013, 01:59:30 AM
This thread is a trainwreck.  There comes a point where people are criticizing oldiesfreak as absurd and are being absurd themselves in the way they are doing it.

The only reason I quoted the one above is because of the fact he's obviously referring to a single year and a half old poll from SUSA (which has become a bit of a running joke if you check the Comedy Goldmine.)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on January 31, 2013, 09:37:49 PM
This thread is a trainwreck.  There comes a point where people are criticizing oldiesfreak as absurd and are being absurd themselves in the way they are doing it.

The only reason I quoted the one above is because of the fact he's obviously referring to a single year and a half old poll from SUSA (which has become a bit of a running joke if you check the Comedy Goldmine.)
Exactly.  Why do I have to be bullied by all of you when all I'm doing is daring to speak the truth?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on February 01, 2013, 12:58:53 AM
I propose we ban Oldiesfreak stuff from the deluge. Regardless of how you feel about him it's cluttering this thread up. I've made a new thread for this. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=168757.0)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on February 01, 2013, 03:25:46 AM
The Republicans from the 1860s ould be Republicans today  and the Democrats from the old days 1860s would be Liberal Democrats today.
Absolutely they should be if they were around!  And they would be; they never "switched sides", the times (and the meanings of liberal and conservative)  just changed and made Republicans the conservatives and Democrats the liberals.

()
But it's true.

If you actually believe Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette, yes.

In the Oldiesfreak world Strom Thurmond was to the left of Robert LaFollette.

Until he had a change of heart and became a Republican because of the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
Yeah, but most segregationists never left the Democratic party.  A few became Republicans, but most did not.

And basically all of those are dead today. Or if not dead out of politics and with no influence whatsoever.
Lincoln is dead today as well, but does he seriously not make you more likely to support Republicans?

Paul Broun is alive today, but does he seriously not make you more likely NOT to support Republicans?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on February 01, 2013, 10:35:33 AM
I propose we ban Oldiesfreak stuff from the deluge. Regardless of how you feel about him it's cluttering this thread up. I've made a new thread for this. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=168757.0)
Thank you, drj.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 02, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
Again we witness the specter of intellectually dishonest misquoting.

He said,

"And we're not going to allow minorities to run roughshod over what you people believe in."

You inserted a "the" before "minorities" and deliberately juxaposed it next to "Obama" to twist his remarks into a racial comment.

Love how the crowd cheers the loudest after the 'minorities' part.

Talk about showing your true colors.

Why shouldn't the crowd be free to cheer to their hearts content? If in your own mind you believe that you represent the viewpoint of the majority, why would you allow any minority viewpoint to dominate you?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 03, 2013, 09:37:29 AM
Again we witness the specter of intellectually dishonest misquoting.

He said,

"And we're not going to allow minorities to run roughshod over what you people believe in."

You inserted a "the" before "minorities" and deliberately juxaposed it next to "Obama" to twist his remarks into a racial comment.

Love how the crowd cheers the loudest after the 'minorities' part.

Talk about showing your true colors.

Why shouldn't the crowd be free to cheer to their hearts content? If in your own mind you believe that you represent the viewpoint of the majority, why would you allow any minority viewpoint to dominate you?

I'm pretty sure we've also got a thread for BSB.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 04, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
That's too bad, it would've been nice to have a hot Governor.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on February 04, 2013, 06:53:37 AM

This is a bad post why exactly?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 04, 2013, 12:17:28 PM

It's absurd to use appearance as even the smallest criterion for such a decision.

Plus, y'know, we already have a few hot Governors.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 04, 2013, 07:36:54 PM
RAR RAR JINGOISM AND NATIONALISM RAR

There I just summarized all the people attacking Paul.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 04, 2013, 10:13:29 PM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 05, 2013, 11:53:51 AM
I am not interested in coddling communists. There is no shortage of communists in America, regardless of whether many communists self-identify. Simfan knows it, I know it, you know it, and everybody else knows it. It is time to start discussing what is really happening in America, particularly in the hallowed halls of educational establishments across the country. Tens of millions of minds have been destroyed by the work of these communists, and the nation will not survive if we do not change course...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 05, 2013, 04:45:27 PM
In the running for best President we've ever had.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on February 05, 2013, 04:51:44 PM

And who would you propose? Roosevelt? Truman? Johnson? Absurdity indeed...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 05, 2013, 05:26:53 PM

And who would you propose? Roosevelt? Truman? Johnson? Absurdity indeed...

LOL Libertarians LOL


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan34 on February 05, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
The favorite of the forum Democrats (and real Democrats to an even greater extent) in 2016 seems to be former First Lady/CarpetbaggerSenator/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Given her name recognition and the fact that she's admittedly done a good enough job as SoS, this current frontrunner status is natural. A lot could change over four years, but it seems likely that she will be in the public eye of speculation for at least the next two years (if she chooses not to run).

I've made it apparent before, but I do not support Hillary Clinton. Though Obama was at least perceived as a progressive and may yet move a little left in his second term, Clinton seems to be fairly "moderate" on domestic policy. If her husband is any indication (plus, you know, the 2008 campaign), she's at best a centrist and at worst a mainstream European conservative. In an effort to counter the crypto-fascist trend of the Republican Party since Reagan, Democratic politicians including Gary Hart and the Clintons have advocated retaining (or doubling down on) cultural liberalism while moving towards a neoliberal economic position.

Though big money has done a good job hiding it, the new attitude of unrestricted free trade, austerity, deregulation, and privatization has fundamentally failed, yet the Democratic Party has failed to move towards sensible leftism on anything besides same-sex marriage and possibly immigration. Obama is being tarnished as a "socialist" at the bare minimum for being marginally to the left of Bill and Hillary.

I will concede that Hillary Clinton would not really be different from Obama in terms of her policy as hypothetical president. If she's the nominee, I'd probably vote for her, and she'd probably be at least an okay president. So what really got me mad? Her supporters. In the forum, in the media (I could make a second rant about how all the liberal talking heads, even the so-called "progressives", are shilling her as much as possible and failing to talk to any Democrat who isn't also on board), and with most of the Democrats I meet. Every other new topic in the 2016 boards is about her.

When anyone, Democratic, Republican, or Independent, says anything remotely negative, they're faced with a swarm of mindless drones, many of whom probably viscerally opposed Hillary's 2008 run (for good reason). The enthusiasm of their support when Obama's second term has just started really reminds me of the hordes of Ron Paul supporters we thankfully won't have to deal with again.

My advice to the Clintards? Before mindlessly jumping on the bandwagon that the voice on the TV is telling you to jump on, take a good look at Hillary's record in the Senate, her statements during the 2008 campaign (also remember that her campaign was the first to dig up the birther crap). If you're still a Hillary supporter, then at least you have something to back it up with.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 05, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
The favorite of the forum Democrats (and real Democrats to an even greater extent) in 2016 seems to be former First Lady/CarpetbaggerSenator/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Given her name recognition and the fact that she's admittedly done a good enough job as SoS, this current frontrunner status is natural. A lot could change over four years, but it seems likely that she will be in the public eye of speculation for at least the next two years (if she chooses not to run).

I've made it apparent before, but I do not support Hillary Clinton. Though Obama was at least perceived as a progressive and may yet move a little left in his second term, Clinton seems to be fairly "moderate" on domestic policy. If her husband is any indication (plus, you know, the 2008 campaign), she's at best a centrist and at worst a mainstream European conservative. In an effort to counter the crypto-fascist trend of the Republican Party since Reagan, Democratic politicians including Gary Hart and the Clintons have advocated retaining (or doubling down on) cultural liberalism while moving towards a neoliberal economic position.

Though big money has done a good job hiding it, the new attitude of unrestricted free trade, austerity, deregulation, and privatization has fundamentally failed, yet the Democratic Party has failed to move towards sensible leftism on anything besides same-sex marriage and possibly immigration. Obama is being tarnished as a "socialist" at the bare minimum for being marginally to the left of Bill and Hillary.

I will concede that Hillary Clinton would not really be different from Obama in terms of her policy as hypothetical president. If she's the nominee, I'd probably vote for her, and she'd probably be at least an okay president. So what really got me mad? Her supporters. In the forum, in the media (I could make a second rant about how all the liberal talking heads, even the so-called "progressives", are shilling her as much as possible and failing to talk to any Democrat who isn't also on board), and with most of the Democrats I meet. Every other new topic in the 2016 boards is about her.

When anyone, Democratic, Republican, or Independent, says anything remotely negative, they're faced with a swarm of mindless drones, many of whom probably viscerally opposed Hillary's 2008 run (for good reason). The enthusiasm of their support when Obama's second term has just started really reminds me of the hordes of Ron Paul supporters we thankfully won't have to deal with again.

My advice to the Clintards? Before mindlessly jumping on the bandwagon that the voice on the TV is telling you to jump on, take a good look at Hillary's record in the Senate, her statements during the 2008 campaign (also remember that her campaign was the first to dig up the birther crap). If you're still a Hillary supporter, then at least you have something to back it up with.

I don't understand why Snowstalker chose to troll this hard today.  My jimmies remain unrustled, though they are a tad disturbed.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 05, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Is it partially intended to rile up the Clintards? Yes. But I don't want to see Hillary as our nominee, and I despise how she already has an obsessed fanbase.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 06, 2013, 09:58:55 AM
And who are these poors carrying smartphones?

They're poors carrying smartphones, krazen.  Most people who have smart phones are poor.  Why should that surprise you?

Smart phones cost hundreds of dollars. But I suspect this is part of the gifts strategy for the lazy.

L38G LG Optimus Dynamic Andriod phone for $80 at Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-L38G-LG-Optimus-Dynamic/22217225).  No contract.

Please exit whatever cave you are living in.

Outside of whatever nonsense you create in your head, your spendthrift President doesn't buy the $80 phones.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 06, 2013, 10:36:54 AM
Soon we're going to need separate Krazen Thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 06, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
loooooooooooooool
Not only that, but Occupy is gonna turn out big if they try it.

Think you can get together 20 people again?

That's more than the number of people who support the Tea Party.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 06, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
loooooooooooooool
Not only that, but Occupy is gonna turn out big if they try it.

Think you can get together 20 people again?

That's more than the number of people who support the Tea Party.

Ha ha, he underestimates the Rube vote. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TNF on February 06, 2013, 03:17:38 PM
A 49% plurality, but fair enough. Unless he either does something absolutely awful.

He just did.

No, he did something good.

SJoyceFla, defending Marco Rubio's vote in favor of wife-beaters everywhere.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on February 06, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
A 49% plurality, but fair enough. Unless he either does something absolutely awful.

He just did.

No, he did something good.

SJoyceFla, defending Marco Rubio's vote in favor of wife-beaters everywhere opposition to a nationwide DNA database of innocent people.

FTFY.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 06, 2013, 08:27:06 PM
Basically every krazen post in this thread would qualify, but this one stands out:

He thinks they do... basically, if anything Krazen writes actually makes sense, I'm going to walk in front of a truck.


This is your utopia, champ. High taxes and no guns for the people, monstrous unions, and rampant homosexuality.

That's what you people say you want for all of us.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 06, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
A better question is what happens to Democrats after there is a financial crisis that makes 2008 look like happy days? How does it get blamed on Bush again?

Under Obama, we have kicked the can down the road one too many times. As soon as the world realizes that the blackout in the Super Bowl pretty much symbolizes the state of America today, it's lights out for us. What then?

The Super Bowl blackout happened because Obama!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TNF on February 06, 2013, 10:31:28 PM
Basically every krazen post in this thread would qualify, but this one stands out:

He thinks they do... basically, if anything Krazen writes actually makes sense, I'm going to walk in front of a truck.


This is your utopia, champ. High taxes and no guns for the people, monstrous unions, and rampant homosexuality.

That's what you people say you want for all of us.

Monstrous unions? Sign me up!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 06, 2013, 10:32:50 PM
krazen is playing with fire with that "rampant homosexuality" comment in a board that Mr. Moderate moderates...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on February 07, 2013, 04:00:44 PM
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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on February 08, 2013, 01:56:03 AM
The first sentence here is to an extent accurate (or, at least, you won't do very well or last very long) but the second is, uh...

You can't be a dumb f-ck and join up.  As has been discussed before, the average person in the military is better than the average person not in the military.
I fought the ignorance in the that thread and it was ignored.  It's a fight I'll have again.  Probably with the same people.  When facts fly in the face of preconceived notions, ignore the facts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: dead0man on February 08, 2013, 01:59:21 AM
oh and from the thread about the one child policy in the PRC...
A terrible policy. Hopefully the reaction from this will force a change.

Why is it terrible?
It was a good policy, but now they should drop it, since Chinese population will age and start naturally declining in about a few years.
It set up a huge advantage, and it would been maintained if the policy was cancelled sometime between 2000-2005.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 08, 2013, 01:13:22 PM
Almost every single recession in recent memory has been caused by the fed raising interest rates.  When they raised rates from 2004 to 2006, a recession ensued in late 2007.  When they raised them in 1999 and 2000, a recession ensued in 2001.  When they raised them in 1988, a recession ensued in 1990.  Keep going back and you see this same pattern.

The solution here is for the fed to never raise rates.  Inflation never seems to happen anymore and even with rates at 0%, there is basically no inflation.  Even if inflation did start to get too high(say over 5% a year), price and wage controls could simply by put in place to put a lid on this.  This worked very well in 1971, 1972, and for most of 1973 until the program was repealed and the fed stupidly started raising rates in 1972. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on February 08, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
On the surface, direct popular vote seems fairer, but if you don't live in a big state like California, Texas, New York, or Florida, then you would have virtually no say in that system.

Wrong, wrong, absolutely brimming over with wrongability.

In a direct popular vote, one vote is one vote, regardless of whether you live in New York City or Hooterville. Let's compare the two systems. Let's say the Republican wins Wyoming by ten thousand votes and the Democrat wins California by ten thousand votes. With a direct popular vote, the election is tied at this point. But in the Electoral College, the Democrat leads 55-3. That means that the ten thousand voters who made the difference in California are over eighteen times as powerful as the ten thousand voters who made the difference in Wyoming. This does not resemble anything even remotely fair. And if you bothered to watch the video that FallenMorgan posted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k), you'd know that the 100 most populous cities in America amount to less than 20% of the population, proving the absurdity of the argument that big cities would dominate presidential elections in a popular vote system.
Not true.  Big states would be even more powerful than they are now under popular vote.  For example, a candidate could carry California, lose every other state, and still win the election because California has so many more people.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 08, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Technically possible I guess. :P

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 08, 2013, 04:28:27 PM

You're doing it all wrong

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 09, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
I met a Republican who met Christie at a dinner and had a picture with him.  Then after the hurricane, the person refused to hang the picture up because Christie praised Obama... that's just stupid.

Christie's behavior cost us the election. If he had invited Romney AND Obama to that photo op, the bipartisan thing that would have made Romney trump Obama in the "appearing presidential" category, we would have won. His behavior, giving Obama that platform, absolutely crushed our momentum and elevated Obama back into "presidential" territory after previously making himself look real small in ranting about Big Bird and Binders Full of women. There was not enough time to regain the momentum. All Christie had to do was insist that Romney and Obama appear together and pledge their bipartisan support to rebuild America. Such a maneuver would have won us the election. Instead, Christie chose to elevate Obama at Romney's expense.

Christie, more than anybody else, is responsible for the next four years. He's a Machiavellian. The whole "straight talk" image is a facade. He'd throw his own mother under a bus for a few votes--or donuts for that matter.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 10, 2013, 12:26:05 PM
This is just the natural conclusion of allowing "casual" dress in workplaces. Soon you'll have people coming in in their underwear or covered in sweat after a workout. It's disgusting.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 10, 2013, 03:27:42 PM
Why doesn't Obama propose anything left-wing? I don't know.

Because he isn't a progressive. He's the proverbial Generic Republican.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 10, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
Context:



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on February 10, 2013, 06:55:23 PM

Snowstalker, this is for legitimately bad posts. Not just for ones you disagree with.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 10, 2013, 09:28:24 PM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on February 10, 2013, 09:49:47 PM

The juxtaposition is pretty funny. You have the stuff about wars, the PATRIOT Act (which I don't personally care at all about but some people do) and then "Obama defended body scans at airports!!!!!111".


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on February 10, 2013, 09:50:17 PM

This doesn't fit here. It's arguable but there's nothing absurd or ignorant about it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 11, 2013, 03:08:24 AM

Oh, but it does.
"In 2002, Obama said: 'I am not opposed to all wars, I'm opposed to dumb wars.'
How would you feel if he said, 'I am not opposed to all child abuse, I'm opposed to dumb child abuse'?"


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 11, 2013, 03:13:26 AM
I also like the "7,400 people have been arrested during Occupy protests UNDER OBAMA'S WATCH." Like he's personally directing local policemen to rough up hippies and take down their tents, lol


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 11, 2013, 09:48:27 AM
The environment stuff too is ridiculous and out of context. My favorite is the nuclear plants one. "Despite Fukushima disaster", well are these plants being built in areas prone to be hit by tsunamis?

Also referring to embassy security as "maintaining a presence in Iraq".


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on February 11, 2013, 10:35:24 AM
I went through the 'bisexual' phase but I'm through with that. I am straight.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 11, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
The environment stuff too is ridiculous and out of context. My favorite is the nuclear plants one. "Despite Fukushima disaster", well are these plants being built in areas prone to be hit by tsunamis?

Lol, it's kinda like those who are building homes at polders.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on February 11, 2013, 10:52:56 AM

I don't understand how this is absurd or ignorant...?

Teenagers go through 'phases' all the time. I thought I was sexually attracted to males and realized that I am not. What's so absurd there?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 11, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
Too much in this thread to put individually...

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=169232.msg3622322#msg3622322


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 12, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
His base will simply freeload like they always do. Miss 32 year old power lawyer working 80 hours a week will pay for it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 12, 2013, 11:37:21 PM
I'm trying to figure out why ~30% of the forum is bronies now.

Man, you know I'm not exactly a "brony", but you realize the alternative is BushOklahoma?
Well at least we are in his target audience, unlike My Little Pony.

MLP's target audience is kids.

Quote from: Lauren Faust
“I didn’t create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents—including male parents. It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too.”

Yeah, sure, whatever.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 14, 2013, 06:32:24 AM
The whole premise behind Ron Paul's campaign was to make him look like a 'sane Libertarian' (even though there's really no such thing as one) and it ended up making him look even more insane than he'd expected, despite the fact that he appeared less insane than he actually is.
Emphasis added.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on February 14, 2013, 06:39:58 AM

I don't understand how this is absurd or ignorant...?

Teenagers go through 'phases' all the time. I thought I was sexually attracted to males and realized that I am not. What's so absurd there?

Just the fact that to most of who are a bit straighter than that, as well as to most homosexuals, it sounds like your first impression was probably correct and now you're just in denial.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 14, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
It's hideous news. Why should gays be allowed to marry when gun rights are not protected.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 14, 2013, 05:00:40 PM
It's hideous news. Why should gays be allowed to marry when gun rights are not protected.

Classic.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: morgieb on February 14, 2013, 05:04:01 PM
It's hideous news. Why should gays be allowed to marry when gun rights are not protected.
Shouldn't all of JCL's posts be moved here?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on February 14, 2013, 06:25:18 PM
The whole premise behind Ron Paul's campaign was to make him look like a 'sane Libertarian' (even though there's really no such thing as one) and it ended up making him look even more insane than he'd expected, despite the fact that he appeared less insane than he actually is.

Emphasis added.

Took a bit of a swing hahaha


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 14, 2013, 10:33:58 PM
If you knew anything about Florida at all, you would know that we have gated suburban hells, not row houses, which are commonly found in New York City. I am one of the fortunate few who doesn’t live in those gated communities. I would agree that they are actually worst then NYC. As for NYC, it had 414 murders last year. Palm Beach County had around 60. Proportionally speaking, that makes PBC really, really bad. NYC is relatively good in regards to crime. I won’t deny that. My county has just over a million people; New York has about eight million. New York City is not that heavily overcrowded either. Those are the good things I could say about the city.

Here is the reason why I never will live in that city, and never will bother to visit it-it is freaking New York. It has a school system that has hundreds if not thousands of teachers waiting in rubber rooms for months on end still getting paid while waiting for a review by the school board regarding crimes they may or may not have committed.

You cannot get around in your own car. You pretty much have to deal with the subway, which is a likely terrorist target, it costs thousands of dollars to live there comfortably (unless of course you come from a wealthy family with connections, in which case, you either are supported directly or are able to get stable employment via family ties), and finally, you miss out on the friendliness/stability you might find in a small town (hell, I live in Boynton, and this town is too big for my liking).

I live in a county that has been ravaged repeatedly by Hurricanes. And part of the reason I oppose FEMA is because all the rich people in Manalapan and Ocean Ridge across the river from me (I can actually see Al Haig’s old house right now) get their docks and seawalls rebuilt after every storm, and have their private beaches resanded with tax payer money. There is never any severe flooding here due to the Hurricanes, with the exception of the agrarian western areas of the county, which the county, not the Feds, dried out when we got our brush with Irene (which slightly brushed us). If I recall correctly, much of New York City flooded….

And finally, we come to the last reason to despise New York-the New Yorker. I know them well, because my own dad is one of them. I tolerate them better than most who are not related to New Yorkers, but I still find myself annoyed by them. Kinda like the way New Yorkers dislike people from Alabama. The North-South divide transcends politics and race as of 2013. Its just a natural cultural divide now a days.

Is any one going to post a good reason why they oppose this or just keep empty quoting a vague statement?
Why is Styrofoam bad?

The health and environmental effects are well documented. I'll let you look into it on your own.

Why should the government go out of the way to ban a material that is so readily available and prevalent?

Something shouldn't be banned because it's prevalent? That's odd reasoning. What's your opinion on asbestos?

NYC is a sh**thole regardless of the affects of “Styrofoam pollution.”

No, it's not. When was the last time you were there and what did you experience to make you believe it was a "sh**thole" compared to any other city?

Furthermore, what is the harm in this? Putting Big Styrofoam out of business?
I have news for you guys; everything is an environmental hazard in some way or another. Should we ban cows? Because three weekends ago, I was in a cow pasture in YeeHaw Junction at a Bluegrass festival. I was surrounded by a sea of cow dung. That stuff over time builds up. And it steams. That according to some sources builds nutrients in the soil. According to others, it depletes them. Do we ban cows?



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 14, 2013, 11:21:41 PM
Wow, that post is a special kind of horrible. Bravo, Sanchez. Bravo.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on February 14, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
Wow, that post is a special kind of horrible. Bravo, Sanchez. Bravo.

A real train wreck


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 15, 2013, 01:23:50 PM
What I ment is why shouldn't I be able to have a thirty bullet clip or a semiautomatic yet people of the same gender
are allowed to solomize something nature and Nature's God have forbidden under rather strict terms.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 16, 2013, 11:36:18 PM
You need to be Simfan. You need to, in practice and theory, emulate the forms and manners of speech and habit, of myself. You just have to, my dear fellow Atlas forumers. You know what is coming up? The 10th Anniversary of the foundation of Simfan34. Of course, I myself, that being my corporate person, have existed since 29 March 1994, which is long over ten years. But one June 10, 2003, I first registered under the name of "Simfan34" on a website, SimcityCentral, now long defunct after a civil war bifurcated the website- Simphoni (Rexerite) and SimcityCentral (Martinite). It would be as if our Dave went into conflict with our Nym and resulted in the site breaking into two factions. This is essential to the history of online fora, such as our beloved one here.

Now, as to becoming like me, or becoming like me, like "Like Mike"-do you know that Michael Jordan is actually considering another comeback at the age of 50!- except "Like Simfan", or more properly, the necessity or rather the beneficial nature thereof, I shall explain to you. Shall I explain to you, or shall I first endeavour as to how to go about doing such things?

Of course, the point is moot. I am writing a static commentary. I am not as of yet engaging in a conversation with you, a fluid living series of quips and parries, but rather a singular rant, a solitary musing, a parting of knowledge. "But wait!" you say! "I needn't have anything to learn from you!" But I am an Ivy Leaguer, an elite , whether you like it or not, and you will have to listen to me one day when you truly have no say in the matter.

I shall first tell you the method, I have resolved. I am in a rather good mood, as a result of the benefits, which occurred less than three hours ago, and the kind belated Christmas gift of the thing I would trade all my bow ties for, and the associated accouterments (of the gift, not the ties- thankfully such a Faustian bargain was unnecessary).

The bow ties are the method, in part. There is the detached, self-consciously refined air, which takes a certain je ne sais quoi (as I am taking lessons in French nowadays, I can spell this correctly) to you, but if you try, you can achieve it! The point is not one of pretension, but rather of satisfaction, of a certain element of "I have done much and the world has done much for me, so I shall sit, drink, and enjoy life, and in the process strike up a conversation with you for it is the activity most immediately achievable at this moment, not out of any urge of the loins". Bow ties, pressed pants, tales of stories set in faraway lands like Ethiopia or "Tianjin", such is best accompanied with a certain world-weariness. Perhaps slightly affected, maybe, but it should from a sincere feeling of having seen the world in its entirety, or a great portion thereof. One should not be fazed by any tale- not even a personal meeting with Kim Jong Un. Sex with the North Korean president, probably, but not a meeting. Of course, such a lackadaisical approach must be learnt through meeting other "dictators". Other things, here pertinently a tobacco pipe, also add to this air.

Now I shall tell you the beneficial nature of this air. It is a short story. I had walked up Amsterdam Avenue to get an egg roll, and having carried my pipe in my pocked after eating said egg roll took out the pipe and began to pack the pipe. I was ready to light the pipe, but alas! I left my lighter at home. Oh bummer. But wait! Out of nowhere, which of course is a lie as they were sitting there, comes a person smoking a cigarette, on a stoop of an apartment building.

"Hello," I say. Of course, I am sure not to sound like a madman, as I am aware I would if I were to speak to you what I have written above. "Would you have a light?"

"Sure," says the person, who pulls out a lighter. It is a fluid one, which is a shame, but beggars, as they say, cannot be choosers.

"Thank you," I respond, lighting the pipe. This is a rather complex process, the details of which I shan't bore you with.

"It isn't often you see a person with a pipe," says the person. It is at this point I become acutely- or maybe "just" aware said person is a woman. Brown hair, maybe thirty something? She is vaguely reminiscent of my sister in law, now that I think of it. Perhaps you know what comes next. Perhaps you don't. For those who don't, conversation ensues. I say something along the lines of "[pipe smoking] is good for keeping warm a little, when it is so cold". Where did our warm streak go? It was lovely. Anyway, the woman responds "oh, you should come inside." If you don't know what ensues, to quote the detestable Al, "go boil your head".

So, what is the point of this rambling? The work is at the same time a defense of "personal-Simfanism" and a work advising the reader to, perhaps, adopt elements of "personal-Simfanism", as a way to further one's personal life in this "trying season", as my fellow light blue (are we really called that? how awful!) once said. Now, thank you for listening, and am honoured to have helped.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 17, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
The worst.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on February 17, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
I'm so glad someone preserved that for the ages.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 17, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
I'm so glad someone preserved that for the ages.

Yeah, I was disappointed to see this thread gone. :(


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 17, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
What causes them is simple. Whites live there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on February 17, 2013, 10:55:59 PM
Ever since Lawrence v. Texas. everyone throughout the United States has had the right to be in a same-sex marriage. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 18, 2013, 12:40:05 AM
That's a nice job of selective quoting to make a position seem more extreme than it actually is, memphis.  You have a future in writing political attack ads.

It's only absurd if you insist that a marriage is a marriage only if the government is involved.  People were getting married long before governments were involved, and if governments decide to get out of the marriage business, people will still be getting married.  Keep in mind that in the interracial case that same-sex marriage activists use as a comparison, Loving v. Virginia, the Lovings were arrested and sentenced to one year in jail for being married and living together.  That's not happening anywhere in the US with same-sex couples.  So I'll stand by what I said in that post:

Ever since Lawrence v. Texas. everyone throughout the United States has had the right to be in a same-sex marriage.  So the right to be married is not what you are arguing for.  What you are arguing for is that same-sex marriages be given the same state privileges that opposite-sex marriages are, and only a few states do that at present.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on February 18, 2013, 10:20:49 AM
You're really not making things any better for yourself. The right to have sex with somebody in private is obviously not the same thing as the right to marry somebody. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 18, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
You're really not making things any better for yourself. The right to have sex with somebody in private is obviously not the same thing as the right to marry somebody. 

Even married couples get in trouble with the law if they have sex in public, but that's not what you're talking about here. What we're discussing is whether being married requires a government.  You think people can't be married without government involvement and I think it doesn't require a government. It's as simple as that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 18, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
Looks like we missed out on this one:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=169577.msg3631129;boardseen#new


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 18, 2013, 06:35:51 PM
This guy should've stopped after the first sentence:

Donald Trump is a damn Yankee fool & a corporate elitist fat cat scumbag. He is like Abraham Lincoln in the sense they are both stupid fat cats who hate the workers & great people of the south & want to kill the south with there damn Tarrifs.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 19, 2013, 11:35:46 AM
No; the professor was so obviously fake that I never found him funny.

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 19, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
This guy should've stopped after the first sentence:

Donald Trump is a damn Yankee fool & a corporate elitist fat cat scumbag. He is like Abraham Lincoln in the sense they are both stupid fat cats who hate the workers & great people of the south & want to kill the south with there damn Tarrifs.

That's from a now banned sock/troll, so not really the type of post that belongs here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 19, 2013, 01:12:10 PM
This guy should've stopped after the first sentence:

Donald Trump is a damn Yankee fool & a corporate elitist fat cat scumbag. He is like Abraham Lincoln in the sense they are both stupid fat cats who hate the workers & great people of the south & want to kill the south with there damn Tarrifs.

That's from a now banned sock/troll, so not really the type of post that belongs here.

I wasn't aware of that but I'm not sure who you are to determine what "type of post" belongs here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 19, 2013, 01:14:17 PM
Of course this is the only thing Naso responds to in this thread:

Approaching this critically, I'd mark it down to the fact that people are not drawn to the internet as a informative source but rather a communicative or social network. Almost everyone avails themselves of information from the internet, but if people aren't doing it often or thinking critcally, then the net gain is zero. And a lot of people aren't thinking critically, which in part explains the rise of conspiracism, combined with pretensions of superiority.

I also think a lot of sources use the internet as a crutch in lieu of proper explaination. Call it the "LMGTFY" effect. People are often just expected to "get" things more nowadays. I think that might explain a lot of the extreme ignorance you're talking about.

Also, I might think the end of the Cold War played a role as well. With the rise of American unipolarity, understanding the world around us as well as why the American system was inherently better than Communism, became less politically pertinent.


But also this.

You might be on to something regarding the end of the Cold War's effect.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Simfan35 on February 19, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
Help me Kemp!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on February 19, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
You're really not making things any better for yourself. The right to have sex with somebody in private is obviously not the same thing as the right to marry somebody. 

Even married couples get in trouble with the law if they have sex in public, but that's not what you're talking about here. What we're discussing is whether being married requires a government.  You think people can't be married without government involvement and I think it doesn't require a government. It's as simple as that.
I think government is required for a civil mariage, yes. Civil marriage is what that entire thread was about. If you want to suggest every sex act in the entire country is a government-free "marriage," that's your folly.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 19, 2013, 07:15:50 PM
You're really not making things any better for yourself. The right to have sex with somebody in private is obviously not the same thing as the right to marry somebody. 

Even married couples get in trouble with the law if they have sex in public, but that's not what you're talking about here. What we're discussing is whether being married requires a government.  You think people can't be married without government involvement and I think it doesn't require a government. It's as simple as that.
I think government is required for a civil mariage, yes. Civil marriage is what that entire thread was about. If you want to suggest every sex act in the entire country is a government-free "marriage," that's your folly.

Not every sex act, just those committed by those in a loving relationship which involves mutual support and a common residence.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 19, 2013, 07:40:12 PM
Here for not ignoring the fact that men get raped too.

There are over 1800 rapes a day in the United States.
Krazen makes an average of 6 posts a day.
Therefore, every time krazen makes a post, 300 women are raped.

#stopkrazen


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 19, 2013, 07:43:39 PM
This was no glitch. The Fascists have enemy targets; the dissenters who fight for freedom. Jmfcst and Simfan were the two most notably of the martyrs, but clearly the Fascists have more vanguard posters in their crosshairs. Opebo, Lief, and BRTD will have been slain by the Fascist hordes by the end of the year, mark my words. Fight, comrades! Fight the tyrants! Fight for your liberty!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 19, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
Simfan irreversibly violated the meme :(

This seems relevant:

http://meemsy.com/v/7103


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on February 19, 2013, 09:52:55 PM
Here for not ignoring the fact that men get raped too.

()


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 19, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
Here for not ignoring the fact that men get raped too.

There are over 1800 rapes a day in the United States.
Krazen makes an average of 6 posts a day.
Therefore, every time krazen makes a post, 300 women are raped.

#stopkrazen

You're doing this wrong.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Bacon King on February 19, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Here for not ignoring the fact that men get raped too.

There are over 1800 rapes a day in the United States.
Krazen makes an average of 6 posts a day.
Therefore, every time krazen makes a post, 300 women are raped.

#stopkrazen

()


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 20, 2013, 01:52:14 AM
Sorry I was typing something else as a response and accidently a coke bottle left the word "not" in the post.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 20, 2013, 11:18:30 AM
I feel like we aren't going to have another Italian pope for centuries.
I wouldn't mind another Italian pope, but you're probably right.  Of course, my church would not be pleased with me discussing this, especially since it views the pope and the Catholic Church as the Antichrist.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on February 20, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
This is so wrong...but I'm so glad he's gone. Good riddance!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 21, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
There are many more crimes than murder, rape, robbery and assault that deserve prison.
Such as?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 22, 2013, 02:01:29 AM
Anyway, lets change the subject.  Enough of the attacks.  I will be fine.  I've been fine for many years.  My life is not screwed up like has been previously mentioned.  I am a little impulsive on the decision making, but it doesn't mean I have bad judgement, nor do my parents.  God has seen me through many mistakes in the past and I have no doubt He will see me through this one, which I still don't think its a mistake.  Its not the choice I would have made on my own.  If it were all up to me, which it shouild be, but is not then I would be heading to work in about 6 hours and would have extended my apartment lease another six months.  Anyway, I've got a busy weekend ahead, but I do plan on getting started looking on Sunday.  I've got several places to call tomorrow and we're going to Shawnee as a family for lunch at Cracker Barrel and a trip to Walmart.  Saturday is a lot of rearranging and getting my room ready to go.  I will be looking online as well the next two evenings.  I do plan on looking really heavy next week.

Let's be clear.  I did not want to come back to Oklahoma and I was prepared to suspend the job search for the next 12-18 months and continue on with the status quo.  I enjoyed my job in Utah and I worked for the best boss anybody could ever ask for.  Since my parents are helping me out, I could not turn my Dad down.  Mom thinks I should have given it another 6-9 months, at minimum, but Dad overpowered both of us.  Oh well, what's done is done and two wrongs don't make a right, so I am going to find a job as fast as I can, and try to be into an apartment of my own by Christmas if not the Autumn.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 22, 2013, 02:09:13 AM
Seems pointless considering the poster, but...

Evil. However, he might be decent enough as secretary of state.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 22, 2013, 09:30:19 AM
Anyway, lets change the subject.  Enough of the attacks.  I will be fine.  I've been fine for many years.  My life is not screwed up like has been previously mentioned.  I am a little impulsive on the decision making, but it doesn't mean I have bad judgement, nor do my parents.  God has seen me through many mistakes in the past and I have no doubt He will see me through this one, which I still don't think its a mistake.  Its not the choice I would have made on my own.  If it were all up to me, which it shouild be, but is not then I would be heading to work in about 6 hours and would have extended my apartment lease another six months.  Anyway, I've got a busy weekend ahead, but I do plan on getting started looking on Sunday.  I've got several places to call tomorrow and we're going to Shawnee as a family for lunch at Cracker Barrel and a trip to Walmart.  Saturday is a lot of rearranging and getting my room ready to go.  I will be looking online as well the next two evenings.  I do plan on looking really heavy next week.

Let's be clear.  I did not want to come back to Oklahoma and I was prepared to suspend the job search for the next 12-18 months and continue on with the status quo.  I enjoyed my job in Utah and I worked for the best boss anybody could ever ask for.  Since my parents are helping me out, I could not turn my Dad down.  Mom thinks I should have given it another 6-9 months, at minimum, but Dad overpowered both of us.  Oh well, what's done is done and two wrongs don't make a right, so I am going to find a job as fast as I can, and try to be into an apartment of my own by Christmas if not the Autumn.

I bolded the most absurd part for you Red, tho I fully agree with giving the extended quote.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 23, 2013, 12:56:35 PM
10,228 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2010.

8,775 people were murdered by firearms in 2010. *

At this rate, are liberals going to start calling for the return of prohibition and/or "automobile control"?

* - Unable to verify how many of these deaths involved alcohol/drugs either directly (i.e., murderer was under the influence) or indirectly (i.e., gang-related disputes over drugs).

Sources:

http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls

Liberals do not have a leg to stand on with respect to gun control. Most incidents of improper firearm use involve alcohol/drugs in some capacity. Prohibition of alcohol/drugs clearly does not work, so why would prohibition of firearms be any different?

The best we can do is better help the mentally ill, and raise awareness about what drugs/alcohol can lead to if one does not watch it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on February 23, 2013, 03:36:46 PM
Seems pointless considering the poster, but...

Evil. However, he might be decent enough as secretary of state.

Still, I kind of like his understanding that Secretaries of State are evil.  Not many people realize this.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 23, 2013, 04:29:07 PM
I kind of like his understanding that Secretaries of State are evil.  Not many people realize this.
They're just following the example set by the first one. >:D


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 23, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
The profession of a law professor pretty entails one to attach themselves to totalitarian governmental theories. After all, these men and women view themselves as the vanguard of law in a nation of rogues. Thus, I have no doubt that Cruz's professors were likely communists but they also may have been fascists or perhaps even one or two was a Filmer like monarchist. Law school breeds totalitarians.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on February 23, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
2016: (
)
Rand Paul/Gary Johnson (R) 296 EV
Joe Biden/Deval Patrick (D) 242 EV
Michael Bloomberg/Ralph Nader (I) 0 EV

Emphasis mine.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 23, 2013, 11:29:44 PM
Since he's actually doing percentages on the map, I wouldn't call including a 0 EV ticket absolutely absurd.  Granted, all three of his tickets are absurd, but you didn't post that map here because of that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Obamanation on February 23, 2013, 11:43:14 PM
Since he's actually doing percentages on the map, I wouldn't call including a 0 EV ticket absolutely absurd.  Granted, all three of his tickets are absurd, but you didn't post that map here because of that.

I think he's referring to the ridiculousness of Bloomberg and Nader being on the same ticket.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on February 23, 2013, 11:57:18 PM
Since he's actually doing percentages on the map, I wouldn't call including a 0 EV ticket absolutely absurd.  Granted, all three of his tickets are absurd, but you didn't post that map here because of that.

I think he's referring to the ridiculousness of Bloomberg and Nader being on the same ticket.

^^^

And the fact that in 2016, Bloomberg will be 75 and Nader 82.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 24, 2013, 12:16:59 AM
I think he's referring to the ridiculousness of Bloomberg and Nader being on the same ticket.

^^^

And the fact that in 2016, Bloomberg will be 75 and Nader 82.

I'll grant you the the age thing, but even with that Bloomberg/Nader is a less absurd ticket than Paul/Johnson.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 24, 2013, 07:44:37 PM
Of course. Obama's whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're left too confused to call him out on it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 25, 2013, 12:13:32 AM
In some ways, the Hagel pick is like when Bush nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on February 25, 2013, 12:33:30 AM
Of course. Obama's whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're left too confused to call him out on it.

Hahaha oh? Care to explain that one?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 25, 2013, 12:37:01 AM
Of course. Obama's whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're left too confused to call him out on it.

Hahaha oh? Care to explain that one?

I'm waiting for yours.

I don't support him on the policy from the originating post but still his "whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're too confused to call him on it"? It sounds absurd on its own...unless of course you're including every member of the United States government in such a statement.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on February 25, 2013, 12:41:44 AM
Of course. Obama's whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're left too confused to call him out on it.
Hahaha oh? Care to explain that one?
I'm waiting for yours.

No problem. Obama's record is public, have at it. Google is your friend, my friend...don't be ignorant. But as a hint, just take a look at the thread you got that from.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 25, 2013, 12:45:14 AM
Of course. Obama's whole game is telling us such blatant lies that we're left too confused to call him out on it.
Hahaha oh? Care to explain that one?
I'm waiting for yours.

No problem. Obama's record is public, have at it. Google is your friend, my friend...don't be ignorant. But as a hint, just take a look at the thread you got that from.

Thanks for the hint dude; read it before I posted it here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on February 25, 2013, 01:15:16 AM
Thanks for the hint dude; read it before I posted it here.

Clearly


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on February 25, 2013, 09:26:24 AM
I go with the Dream Team of Coolidge and Pinchot.  Of course, it will be a landslide for Smith due to the nature of this forum.

I mean, did he not read the thread before we got to it, c'mon.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on February 25, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
Haha no, it's funny. Then again, my 12-year-old sense of humor makes me think any and all uses of the C-bomb are gold. Calling a little girl one makes it all the more funny for the juxtaposition as well as her obviously not being one. It is satire, after all...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 25, 2013, 06:41:02 PM
Haha no, it's funny. Then again, my 12-year-old sense of humor makes me think any and all uses of the C-bomb are gold. Calling a little girl one makes it all the more funny for the juxtaposition as well as her obviously not being one. It is satire, after all...

I'm actually a little surprised you didn't post directly in that thread, since I was thinking of how upset you were likely getting at a lot of what was being said...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on February 25, 2013, 07:45:37 PM
I've always found it cute when contrarian black conservatives rail against affirmative action even though they likely wouldn't be where they are today were it not for affirmative action. Sowell would likely never have made it to Harvard as an archconservative white guy.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on February 26, 2013, 11:23:45 AM
Haha no, it's funny. Then again, my 12-year-old sense of humor makes me think any and all uses of the C-bomb are gold. Calling a little girl one makes it all the more funny for the juxtaposition as well as her obviously not being one. It is satire, after all...

I'm actually a little surprised you didn't post directly in that thread, since I was thinking of how upset you were likely getting at a lot of what was being said...

I assure you I was very upset indeed, but I was stressed yesterday as it was.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 26, 2013, 07:33:33 PM
Oh, heavens no.  I can spot Nigerian scams 5 miles off.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on February 26, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
I know, I know, it's poor form to post IRC quotes in here, but this is a gem.

Quote
<Snowstalker>   what the hell is anna karenina?

<Snowstalker>   it looks like a russian les mis only even more boring


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 26, 2013, 10:24:43 PM
The only Russian thing Snowstalker has read is Pussy Riot's liner notes.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 26, 2013, 11:06:29 PM
I always thought it was pretty interesting how Pussy Riot have a clearly Scandinavian-influenced sound, especially song. This one, the one that got them in trouble in particularly is VERY Finnish-sounding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALS92big4TY

I wonder if Finnish bands tour in Russia.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 26, 2013, 11:14:45 PM
The only Russian thing Snowstalker has read is Pussy Riot's liner notes.

The members of Pussy Riot have actually referenced Berdayev and Dosteyevski (http://nplusonemag.com/pussy-riot-closing-statements), so I wonder what their liner notes would look like.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on February 27, 2013, 09:47:58 PM
Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on February 27, 2013, 11:08:37 PM
Yep.  Most musicians outside of country tend to be very liberal, so I don't see why very many people who aren't liberals would listen to their music.

Oh my god. It keeps getting worse.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 28, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
I may also take a little nap in a bit.  I've got nothing else to do today, so I can pretty much just relax.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 28, 2013, 10:21:15 PM
I may also take a little nap in a bit.  I've got nothing else to do today, so I can pretty much just relax.

I found his counter-response even funnier:

However, I have my computer in front of me and www.careerbuilder.com on another open tab.  I'm not just sitting here doing nothing. 

The best part is that Career Builder is what stuck him with that original scam to cause him to quit Oklahoma Natural Gas.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on February 28, 2013, 10:22:35 PM
Haha no, it's funny. Then again, my 12-year-old sense of humor makes me think any and all uses of the C-bomb are gold. Calling a little girl one makes it all the more funny for the juxtaposition as well as her obviously not being one. It is satire, after all...

Explain?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 01, 2013, 01:27:45 AM
Thinking that 'any and all uses of the C-bomb are gold' is (in my opinion) bad, and thinking that the definition of 'satire' can be stretched to encompass and justify anything that causes offense and is supposed to be funny is (as I understand that term) ignorant. 'All the more funny for the juxtaposition' is absurd in that I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: fezzyfestoon on March 01, 2013, 01:35:21 AM
Where is there an indication that I think anything that offends people is funny? I think it's idiotic and ignorant to be offended by words, specifically the words of a satirical publication. No one stops to think about whether they're making a point with the JOKE, they just see a certain word and freak out based on shallow instinct. That's ignorance. In my eyes it was an indictment of the social media culture where the public, and particularly media outlets like E!, act as though they're on a personal basis with public figures to the point where they can state something as offensive and personally incriminating as that. The juxtaposition of the word c**nt and a little girl sharply highlights the absurdity of the closely personal stories perpetuated by our ravenous and indiscriminate media. If it makes me ignorant to be intellectually capable enough to reach that conclusion while also admitting that I know I'm immature enough to enjoy any use of that word makes me ignorant, absurd, or a bad poster then so be it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 01, 2013, 08:45:03 AM
Watching would be a half + 7 violation, so I won't do it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Obamanation on March 02, 2013, 10:21:14 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=168802.0


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 02, 2013, 01:24:35 PM
Quote
Inks, I do not approve of you constantly yelling at me telling me everything I do is wrong, when you know darn well that not all of it is wrong.  It is because of you that I am locking this thread for right now...  Thanks a heap...
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=168802.msg3644788#msg3644788


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 02, 2013, 01:27:24 PM
Quote
Inks, I do not approve of you constantly yelling at me telling me everything I do is wrong, when you know darn well that not all of it is wrong.  It is because of you that I am locking this thread for right now...  Thanks a heap...
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=168802.msg3644788#msg3644788

hahaha


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 04, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
That depends if the relationship was a half + 7 violation or not. Obviously if he was like 40 and she was just some college student it's very creepy and disgusting, but if they were close in age and it was entirely consensual what's the big deal?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 04, 2013, 01:15:39 PM

Click for context.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 04, 2013, 03:30:25 PM

I've met Americans who are unclear on who Taylor Swift is. Granted, most of them were olds.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 04, 2013, 03:34:36 PM

I've met Americans who are unclear on who Taylor Swift is. Granted, most of them were olds.

I have no idea who that is.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 04, 2013, 03:40:28 PM

Yeah but you're in a place mostly insulated and protected from the pop culture of The Bad Place.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 05, 2013, 10:02:51 PM
... are you kidding me? Have you not heard of the Carter Center and its election monitoring programs?

I've heard of the Jimmy Carter who constantly coddles up to terrorists.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 05, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
Beat me to it. Good lord.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 05, 2013, 10:35:05 PM
... are you kidding me? Have you not heard of the Carter Center and its election monitoring programs?

I've heard of the Jimmy Carter who constantly coddles up to terrorists.

Yeah, that wasn't my best response.  In fact, it was arguably my worst.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Obamanation on March 05, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
Love the people in this thread who don't seem to understand the threat of US military intervention has tempered genocide and dictatorship around the world.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 05, 2013, 11:40:56 PM

Yeah I too came here to post that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 05, 2013, 11:41:19 PM
An Empire is a country which has an Emperor. Ergo, the only country which can make a halfway reasonable claim today to being an empire is Japan.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on March 05, 2013, 11:51:57 PM
An Empire is a country which has an Emperor. Ergo, the only country which can make a halfway reasonable claim today to being an empire is Japan.

You're obviously the expert on Japanese culture here, not me...can you explain why that is absurd and ignorant? I'm not calling you out; this is a topic you know far more about than I do and I'm legitimately curious.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on March 06, 2013, 10:22:54 AM
Option 1.  $2.13 doesn't sound like much of a minimum wage, but let's bring it down for other workers to the same level as tipped employees.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 06, 2013, 01:52:39 PM
Option 1.  $2.13 doesn't sound like much of a minimum wage, but let's bring it down for other workers to the same level as tipped employees.

I see some people can't recognize a joke without smileys.  Option 1 only said to make the minimum wage the same for tipped employees and untipped employees without specifying the level, so I gave it an admittedly absurd interpretation as a joke.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 06, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
Bushie's teacher compared Lincoln to Hitler and...

Not very many agreed with him, but just because he doesn't bow down to Abe Lincoln, doesn't mean he's a bad teacher.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 06, 2013, 09:39:22 PM
An Empire is a country which has an Emperor. Ergo, the only country which can make a halfway reasonable claim today to being an empire is Japan.

You're obviously the expert on Japanese culture here, not me...can you explain why that is absurd and ignorant? I'm not calling you out; this is a topic you know far more about than I do and I'm legitimately curious.

The sociological/political-science definition of an 'empire' in this context involves what's called a metropole exerting influence over what are called peripheries. It's a state that's to some extent set up like the heterogeneous realms ruled by the Western emperors of old, defined by that rather than by the presence of someone with that particular title. Previously most countries with empires were very interested in accruing an Emperor, because orders of precedence put them above kings and queens; this isn't as important as it used to be, and nothing theoretically prevents a republic from exercising its sovereignty in this way. Not only does Japan not really have peripheries anymore (unless you count Okinawa or Hokkaido), plenty of other countries do. Additionally, the 天皇 has his title translated as 'Emperor' and he does in fact outrank other heads of state in certain arcane ceremonial orders, but the terms derive from entirely different conceptions of sovereignty. 'Emperor' in the West implies, well, more or less what I just described. 天皇 implies a sacramental monarchy. Not mutually exclusive, obviously, but far from the same thing.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 06, 2013, 10:35:26 PM
Abe Lincoln was not a nice guy and is widely known as a jerk.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on March 06, 2013, 10:38:10 PM

That just really confuses me. Did Bushie have a traumatic experience with a Lincoln?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on March 07, 2013, 12:00:03 AM
I'm embarrassed that Democrats don't show up and help (besides Wyden).  

Where's your concern about civil liberties now?

They realize that this is a shameless attempt by the racist party to try to paint our African American president and AG as killers who will kill scared rich white people in Houston and Bowling Green.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 07, 2013, 01:36:01 AM
Why do so few people know who useful idiot is, or appreciate his cutting irony? 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on March 07, 2013, 01:38:57 AM
Why do so few people know who useful idiot is, or appreciate his cutting irony? 

Because he makes about 10 posts a month. :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2013, 01:57:54 AM
I was watching TV and saw a commercial and began getting angry. I was sick and tired of these types of commercials. Fast paced, futuristic bulls*it. One touch of a finger, the whole universe, blah blah blah. You know the type:

()

It makes me scared. I'm afraid America is not going to be unique anymore. I'm afraid that the future will be a one-world melting pot with liberal United Nations laws.

I mean, think about it.

America 1770s:
()

America 100 years or so later, the industrial revolution:
()

America 100 years or so later:
()

Now just 25 years later:

()
()
()

Mega futuristic technology, a complete melting pot, it just seems like America isn't unique anymore and it scares me.



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 07, 2013, 06:19:22 AM
^ Yeah that post was really bad, especially this:

It makes me scared. I'm afraid America is not going to be unique anymore. I'm afraid that the future will be a one-world melting pot with liberal United Nations laws.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on March 07, 2013, 07:08:53 AM
An Empire is a country which has an Emperor. Ergo, the only country which can make a halfway reasonable claim today to being an empire is Japan.

You're obviously the expert on Japanese culture here, not me...can you explain why that is absurd and ignorant? I'm not calling you out; this is a topic you know far more about than I do and I'm legitimately curious.

The sociological/political-science definition of an 'empire' in this context involves what's called a metropole exerting influence over what are called peripheries. It's a state that's to some extent set up like the heterogeneous realms ruled by the Western emperors of old, defined by that rather than by the presence of someone with that particular title. Previously most countries with empires were very interested in accruing an Emperor, because orders of precedence put them above kings and queens; this isn't as important as it used to be, and nothing theoretically prevents a republic from exercising its sovereignty in this way. Not only does Japan not really have peripheries anymore (unless you count Okinawa or Hokkaido), plenty of other countries do. Additionally, the 天皇 has his title translated as 'Emperor' and he does in fact outrank other heads of state in certain arcane ceremonial orders, but the terms derive from entirely different conceptions of sovereignty. 'Emperor' in the West implies, well, more or less what I just described. 天皇 implies a sacramental monarchy. Not mutually exclusive, obviously, but far from the same thing.

Thanks -- it seems we're arguing more over the definition of 'empire' than anything to do with Japanese culture specifically, but I appreciate the explanation :)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on March 07, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
I am predicting the United States economy will create 1 million new jobs in March and April.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 07, 2013, 03:27:09 PM
The Naso thread got deleted? Terrible news.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 07, 2013, 03:29:33 PM
An Empire is a country which has an Emperor. Ergo, the only country which can make a halfway reasonable claim today to being an empire is Japan.

You're obviously the expert on Japanese culture here, not me...can you explain why that is absurd and ignorant? I'm not calling you out; this is a topic you know far more about than I do and I'm legitimately curious.

The sociological/political-science definition of an 'empire' in this context involves what's called a metropole exerting influence over what are called peripheries. It's a state that's to some extent set up like the heterogeneous realms ruled by the Western emperors of old, defined by that rather than by the presence of someone with that particular title. Previously most countries with empires were very interested in accruing an Emperor, because orders of precedence put them above kings and queens; this isn't as important as it used to be, and nothing theoretically prevents a republic from exercising its sovereignty in this way. Not only does Japan not really have peripheries anymore (unless you count Okinawa or Hokkaido), plenty of other countries do. Additionally, the 天皇 has his title translated as 'Emperor' and he does in fact outrank other heads of state in certain arcane ceremonial orders, but the terms derive from entirely different conceptions of sovereignty. 'Emperor' in the West implies, well, more or less what I just described. 天皇 implies a sacramental monarchy. Not mutually exclusive, obviously, but far from the same thing.

Thanks -- it seems we're arguing more over the definition of 'empire' than anything to do with Japanese culture specifically, but I appreciate the explanation :)

You're welcome. (I mean, your definition of 'empire' is the intuitive and obvious one, but it's not the one that's preferred in current political science or the sense in which the other posters in that thread meant it.)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on March 07, 2013, 03:29:39 PM
America truly has gone downhill when Naso's right to free speech is not given preference.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on March 08, 2013, 01:13:49 PM
I ususally abstain myself of posting here or in similar threads. However, the Iranian leader and the poster deserve a mention in the Deluge.

link (http://www.rferl.org/content/ahmadinejad-chavez-jesus/24921213.html)
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The death of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has prompted eulogies from around the world, but few of the messages have been as eccentric as the second-coming predicted by Iran's president.
 
And as if returning to Earth alone was not enough, President Mahmud Ahmadinejad says Chavez will do so alongside some esteemed company.
 
"I have no doubt that he [Chavez] will return alongside Jesus Christ and the Mahdi [the Hidden Imam] to establish peace and justice in the world," Ahmadinejad wrote in an emotional condolence message posted on his personal website. The Mahdi is a revered figure among Shi'ite Muslims, many of whom believe he will return to save humanity.   

<snip>

Ahmadinejad also supported allegations made by Venezuelan Vice President Nicolas Maduro, who said shortly before Chavez's death that he had "no doubt” the country's enemies had somehow given the leftist leader the cancer from which he eventually died.
 
In his condolence message, Ahmadinejad said Chavez was a "martyr" who fell to a "suspect illness."

<snip>
I'm sure his predictions are as good as we are with predicting attacks on Iran or future oil prices.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on March 09, 2013, 10:10:25 AM
Think about what that led to... W was elected, but was ultimately disowned by the party and dragged his family name through the mud, and opened the door to a Dem Senate and President Obama. Do you think Jeb Bush regrets the purges of voters, ramming through the count, etc? If W had lost honestly and narrowly, could Jeb have become president in 2004 or 2008?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 09, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
Mitt was an unemployed American.

He has as much right to be employed as any other American.

I mean, after all, he was only earning twenty million dollars a year through his investments.






Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 09, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
you act as if sexual fantasies are a bad thing!

They can be a good thing is if its you and your wife, but anything outside of that is sin.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 09, 2013, 06:25:24 PM
That's more depressing than anything. The religious nutters have really done a number brainwashing him.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 09, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
That's more depressing than anything. The religious nutters have really done a number brainwashing him.

Yea right after I posted it I thought about whether it belonged here or not. Probably not.

This poor guy probably beats him up every day over these so-called trespasses.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 09, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
Now, seriously...

Venezuela needs more full-throated defenders of neoliberalism.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 09, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
Now, seriously...

Venezuela needs more full-throated defenders of neoliberalism.

If there's ever a time for Bacon King to return, it's now.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on March 09, 2013, 10:50:03 PM
This whole thread is terrible, minus the brief intelligent discussion of Rawls:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170216.0


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 10, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Howe and Strauss have the generations living in the twentieth century and now so pegged:

Transcendental 1792-1821
Gilded  1822-1842
Progressive 1843-1859
Missionary 1860-1882
Lost  1883-1900
GI 1901-1924
Silent 1925-1942
Boom 1943-1960
Thirteenth/X  1961-1981
Millennial 1982-? 

1882 links FDR to Churchill instead of to a bunch of gangsters, fascist and Nazi war criminals, and Stalinist functionaries or satraps -- and puts FDR in a generation more known for principle than for pragmatism. Maybe if Obama rates as one of the greatest Presidents ever he gets his birth-year reclassified as a "Boomer" year. Howe and Strauss recognize the early wave of Generation X as one of the most troubled waves of kids ever -- drug use, alcoholism, criminal arrests, and low achievements in education -- and for rejecting Boomer mass culture.   


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 10, 2013, 11:22:33 PM
How is that absurd, ignorant, or bad?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 11, 2013, 01:42:01 AM
How is that absurd, ignorant, or bad?

Did you read his reasoning?  It's beyond absurd (ie, thinking there is some significance to linking FDR with Churchill, how people behave if they were born in a certain 'generation", "all horrible people belong to a certain generation", etc etc).

Really, even Vosem thought his rationale was absurd.

What the hell am I doing even responding to this.  It's a pbrower post for god's sake.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on March 11, 2013, 08:11:49 AM
How is that absurd, ignorant, or bad?

Did you read his reasoning?  It's beyond absurd (ie, thinking there is some significance to linking FDR with Churchill, how people behave if they were born in a certain 'generation", "all horrible people belong to a certain generation", etc etc).

Really, even Vosem thought his rationale was absurd.

What the hell am I doing even responding to this.  It's a pbrower post for god's sake.

Strauss and Howe have about as much to do with serious historical thought as an excess of phlegm or black bile has to do with the headache I get from reading them.

The best part is "Maybe if Obama rates as one of the greatest Presidents ever he gets his birth-year reclassified as a "Boomer" year."- tacit, inadvertent admission that their entire framework is unfalsifiable bullsh!t with zero rigor or explanatory value.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 11, 2013, 09:29:58 AM
It should go without saying that generational theory is bunk.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 11, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
In all honesty, Europe should do something to discourage Muslim immigration. Right now, they're acting as if the Crusades were for naught.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 11, 2013, 06:22:34 PM
In all honesty, Europe should do something to discourage Muslim immigration. Right now, they're acting as if the Crusades were for naught.

Yikes.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 11, 2013, 06:47:40 PM
In all honesty, Europe should do something to discourage Muslim immigration. Right now, they're acting as if the Crusades were for naught.

Yikes.
Funny thing is, I was called a "racist f**wyt" for making that same comment once. Should it be discouraged? No, but I do not condemn those worried about heavy immigration from any race or nationality of being afraid; demographic changes can be good, but they take some getting used to.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Obamanation on March 11, 2013, 07:39:43 PM
In all honesty, Europe should do something to discourage Muslim immigration. Right now, they're acting as if the Crusades were for naught.

Yikes.

Imagine being a European Catholic and seeing the Saracen hordes approaching, you would be scared too.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 11, 2013, 07:53:35 PM
Sarcasm, guys.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 11, 2013, 08:24:58 PM
It's really interesting. As long as the church could 1) write history, 2) define knowledge in the absence of technology (and that's the big one, and on which everything else hinged), and 3) wield secular power through kings and magistrates, it could enforce whatever ideology it chose. This is the Church's problem: it is now an artifact, in and of itself. It's going to struggle to make itself relevant and meaningful in societies that are not developing, that are already developed - because those developed societies derive their knowledge from other sources at this point. It's evolutionary, and it's to be expected. Ultimately, the fate of religion is to be an obscure, kind of esoteric sense of personal spirituality. Not a set of dogmatic instructions, insights, and decrees handed down from On High.

And that is what makes people horrible today: their uppity aversion to authority.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 11, 2013, 09:15:46 PM
If you are defending Obamanations post, you should check the entire thread it was in, and then tell me if it was sarcastic...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 12, 2013, 07:52:16 AM
Republicans: Large sodas are unhealthy, so I choose not to drink them.
Democrats: Large sodas are unhealthy, I want them banned for everyone.

Then liberals claim they're for individual rights. Hypocrites.

And your position on marijuana...

One's illegal, the other's not, "King".


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on March 12, 2013, 08:09:25 AM
Republicans: Large sodas are unhealthy, so I choose not to drink them.
Democrats: Large sodas are unhealthy, I want them banned for everyone.

Then liberals claim they're for individual rights. Hypocrites.

And your position on marijuana...

One's illegal, the other's not, "King".
Nice circular logic, Mike! :D


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 12, 2013, 08:49:45 AM
Republicans: Large sodas are unhealthy, so I choose not to drink them.
Democrats: Large sodas are unhealthy, I want them banned for everyone.

Then liberals claim they're for individual rights. Hypocrites.

And your position on marijuana...

One's illegal, the other's not, "King".

That's f[inks]ing gold


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 12, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
On nice things about Fezzy:



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 12, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Republicans: Large sodas are unhealthy, so I choose not to drink them.
Democrats: Large sodas are unhealthy, I want them banned for everyone.

Then liberals claim they're for individual rights. Hypocrites.

And your position on marijuana...

One's illegal, the other's not, "King".

This is bad even by Naso standards (!!!).


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on March 12, 2013, 03:21:15 PM
How do people even survive in a right-to-scab state?

I'm not talking about execs and business owners. I'm talking about average workers.
They resort to crime and end up in jail or dead.

Both the original and the reply.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on March 13, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
Did denazification happen in Austria as well, or just Germany?

According to Wiki, the victorious Allies focused their postwar de-nazification efforts on Germany as well as Austria.  Apparently they fell short in Austria.  

There were de-nazification efforts?  I'm surprised on several levels, but particularly that the American government would oppose Nazis.

Just...what??!?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 13, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
No. I'm in favour of a minimum property qualification, but once you meet it, your vote should count the same as a billionaire.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 13, 2013, 10:37:04 PM
My problem is simply just how BORING most of them are. Never any original material.

That kind of goes hand in hand with having a rational, logical approach to the world, you see.  Sorry that we can't all be batsh[inks] insane like a lot of you folks and your weird perspectives of reality.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on March 13, 2013, 11:00:56 PM
Hmm, was it the addition of "you see"?  I thought mimicking (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170562.msg3655475#msg3655475) your insufferability might have crossed the line, and I guess it did.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 13, 2013, 11:03:10 PM
Hmm, was it the addition of "you see"?  I thought mimicking (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170562.msg3655475#msg3655475) your insufferability might have crossed the line, and I guess it did.

What's absurd, ignorant, and bad about your post is the content, which was admittedly not as flagrant in its absurdity, ignorance, and badness as in the case of the execrable memphis. Congratulations, I guess.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on March 13, 2013, 11:20:55 PM
You deleted your half-apology?  I was about to half-accept it.  :(


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 13, 2013, 11:26:42 PM
You deleted your half-apology?  I was about to half-accept it.  :(

It's not that I retract it; it's that I thought that it made the most sense in the context of the other sentence that I removed.

Here's the original post, as best I can remember it:

Quote
What's absurd, ignorant, and bad about your post is the content, which was admittedly not as flagrant in its absurdity, ignorance, and badness as in the case of the execrable memphis. You also make posts that are not absurd, ignorant, or bad with a considerably greater degree of frequency than he does. Congratulations, I guess. I'm sorry, sort of.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on March 13, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
I half-accept your half-apology.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 13, 2013, 11:30:17 PM
Thank you. A little.

(I still think that your post was bad. I admit that my posts were abrasive. I maintain that that was appropriate.)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 14, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
I hope Winfield's arm isn't in a brace from patting himself on the back too hard.

2 days.

I believe this conclave will end fairly quickly.  The Cardinals know what the church requires in a Pope at this time, and they will make their choice accordingly and quickly.

Good call.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 14, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
They shouldn't be able to vote, period. They'll always vote Republican to protect their corporate asses in whatever way possible out of greed & selfishness because they know whatever Republican incumbent is President would give all of them huge tax breaks. At least those who vote Democratic or anti-Republican care about the greater whole of the nation.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on March 14, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
Bushie, on why he thinks Republicans are less likely to be child molesters:
Well, Republican states tend to be more religious than Democratic states, though that's debatable, and small towns in deep red states are usually even more conservative and religious than the big cities, so you wouldn't automatically suspect a deep red, small town citizen to be a predator.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Obamanation on March 14, 2013, 11:39:18 PM
They shouldn't be able to vote, period. They'll always vote Republican to protect their corporate asses in whatever way possible out of greed & selfishness because they know whatever Republican incumbent is President would give all of them huge tax breaks. At least those who vote Democratic or anti-Republican care about the greater whole of the nation.

That's not absurd, ignorant, or bad.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 15, 2013, 05:31:22 AM
They shouldn't be able to vote, period. They'll always vote Republican to protect their corporate asses in whatever way possible out of greed & selfishness because they know whatever Republican incumbent is President would give all of them huge tax breaks. At least those who vote Democratic or anti-Republican care about the greater whole of the nation.

That's not absurd, ignorant, or bad.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on March 15, 2013, 06:15:09 AM
What happened is that we had a RINO candidate that threw the conservative base overboard - and millions of conservatives stayed home


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 15, 2013, 10:58:06 AM
They shouldn't be able to vote, period. They'll always vote Republican to protect their corporate asses in whatever way possible out of greed & selfishness because they know whatever Republican incumbent is President would give all of them huge tax breaks. At least those who vote Democratic or anti-Republican care about the greater whole of the nation.

That's not absurd, ignorant, or bad.
I hope that's sarcastic.  Otherwise, you guys are pretty much surrendering Democratic principle.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 15, 2013, 04:35:57 PM
They shouldn't be able to vote, period. They'll always vote Republican to protect their corporate asses in whatever way possible out of greed & selfishness because they know whatever Republican incumbent is President would give all of them huge tax breaks. At least those who vote Democratic or anti-Republican care about the greater whole of the nation.

That's not absurd, ignorant, or bad.
I hope that's sarcastic.  Otherwise, you guys are pretty much surrendering Democratic principle.

Don't look at me, I voted to nominate Obamanation's post as horrible. :P

Oh of course I knew what you were doing (which seems to, so far, be quite logical from my pov), however 20RP12 is harder to figure out.  Given the empty quoting.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 15, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
I can't make sense of it either, I think I meant to type something, but forgot to. It was pretty early in the morning.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 15, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
I hope Winfield's arm isn't in a brace from patting himself on the back too hard.

2 days.

I believe this conclave will end fairly quickly.  The Cardinals know what the church requires in a Pope at this time, and they will make their choice accordingly and quickly.

Good call.

Mods, I would really look into a potential Winfield Sock all things considered. (See the General White thread)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on March 15, 2013, 07:46:31 PM
I hope Winfield's arm isn't in a brace from patting himself on the back too hard.

2 days.

I believe this conclave will end fairly quickly.  The Cardinals know what the church requires in a Pope at this time, and they will make their choice accordingly and quickly.

Good call.

Mods, I would really look into a potential Winfield Sock all things considered. (See the General White thread)

What? Is Winfield making a sock to congratulate himself that happens to have the same display name as him?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on March 15, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
I hope Winfield's arm isn't in a brace from patting himself on the back too hard.

2 days.

I believe this conclave will end fairly quickly.  The Cardinals know what the church requires in a Pope at this time, and they will make their choice accordingly and quickly.

Good call.

Mods, I would really look into a potential Winfield Sock all things considered. (See the General White thread)

What? Is Winfield making a sock to congratulate himself that happens to have the same display name as him?

And has the same number of posts...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 15, 2013, 11:12:01 PM
It's just Winfield being Winfield.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 16, 2013, 01:48:36 PM
At the risk of me being intolerant:

Satan has tried to steal the joy several times over the past 12 months, but to this point he has utterly failed! 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on March 16, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
At the risk of me being intolerant:

Satan has tried to steal the joy several times over the past 12 months, but to this point he has utterly failed! 

You must be Satan, Mr. Kemp.  :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 17, 2013, 01:08:42 PM
When I get home from church this afternoon, I will be getting into the Sunday paper and map out my strategy this week.  I am going to search for three weeks, because that's the earliest date that the plane tickets will be purchased for Kenya in June.  If I have not started a job or if I have not received a guaranteed offer by 6:00 pm on Friday, April 5, 2013, I will suspend the job search until I get back from Africa and resume my job search on Monday, July 1, 2013.  I am not about to throw away a $2,000 plane ticket and I'm not about to waste the money of that generous donor.  I will look as hard as I can for the next three weeks, but starting on Monday, April 8, 2013 it is all about Kenya for the entire second quarter of 2013 until Monday, July 1, 2013

Jeff, you are running cover for your own excuses here. You are passive aggressively, half a$sing the job search. You know that you could get yourself out of this. As I mentioned you could try to auction this up or something.  You could pay your benefactor off that way and maybe even raise some money for the charity. And the plane tickets aren't in your bleeding name.  Come on man. You know you are in no position to be charitable here. This is a vanity project that someone is footing the bill for.

So, you are saying I should not even go to Africa period in 2013 or 2014 and auction this benevolence to the highest bidder?  Are you out of your mind?

patrick has a job and pays his bills.  He just wants you to do the same.

And not fulfill what I was called to do?  I'm sorry, but I take my faith seriously, it is not a laughing matter.  I never said I was going to do the job search haphazardly, I was brought up to not spit in the face of someone who gives you something.  If this plane ticket it bought and I, personally, don't use it, I will be spitting in the face of that benefactor.  I'm better than that.

Oh, by the way, I will be moving to Kenya in 4 years.  I have been mocked for wanting to do what GOD has told me to do.  I do not own my life.  God owns my life and He will do with it what He pleases.  I will have a job soon, but I refuse to spit in His face and I refuse to spit in the face of my benefactor.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 17, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
I am not going to postpone my life just because I don't have a job and I will actively enjoy life while I'm trying to rebound.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 17, 2013, 05:04:14 PM
What convinces me that President Obama is not a Boomer is -- of all things -- the whacking of Osama bin Laden. Even if an elite military team did it at his order and he was fully justified, the style reeks of "gangland hit". Barack Obama knows his history, apparently including the sordid part of Chicago history. Al Capone would have admired it.



I couldn't decide wether to put it here or in the Goldmine, but since it's pbrower I'll put it here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on March 17, 2013, 10:20:44 PM
Ya know, I can't even remember. I put it up there a long time ago. I think it might've been to troll someone. I really forgot it was even there until you reminded me. The only thing I remember about what flag I put up was that I had a Vietnam flag during the 2008 election season as an anti-McCain symbol.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 17, 2013, 10:34:11 PM
Ya know, I can't even remember. I put it up there a long time ago. I think it might've been to troll someone. I really forgot it was even there until you reminded me. The only thing I remember about what flag I put up was that I had a Vietnam flag during the 2008 election season as an anti-McCain symbol.

Wtf.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 17, 2013, 10:37:04 PM
Anyone who wasn't here in 2008 doesn't even know the half of it in regards to how much of a vicious zealot I was back then.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 18, 2013, 09:56:52 AM
Anyone who wasn't here in 2008 doesn't even know the half of it in regards to how much of a vicious zealot I was back then.

You are beyond redemption.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 18, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
For admitting I was over the top in 2008?

Not that I'm particularly bugged by that, after it's similar to what Seth MacFarlane would do. Family Guy has had jokes about dead Vietnam veterans and torturing McCain before after all.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on March 18, 2013, 11:08:52 AM
With Shakespeare I just found his stuff boring. Hideously so. It was also incredibly predictable and never had any interesting plot twists or anything like that, and the dialogue was stilted and unwitty. I also hated the long drawn out monologues some characters would do, now granted this is also a tactic good writers use, like Tarantino does all the time (such as Leo's large rant with his bleeding hand in Django Unchained, or Brad Pitt's opening speech in Inglourious Basterds or the Christopher Walken scene in Pulp Fiction, etc.) but he keeps the monologues interesting and easy to follow. Plus the actors get to go crazy with them, not really present in Shakespeare's plays. Truthfully we have posters on this forum with a more interesting, witty and funny writing styles, opebo and Tweed are both far superior. So yeah just wasn't fond of his stuff.

Yeah!  Who needs that fusty old William Shakespeare when we have opebo for all our literary needs!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 18, 2013, 01:59:16 PM
With Shakespeare I just found his stuff boring. Hideously so. It was also incredibly predictable and never had any interesting plot twists or anything like that, and the dialogue was stilted and unwitty. I also hated the long drawn out monologues some characters would do, now granted this is also a tactic good writers use, like Tarantino does all the time (such as Leo's large rant with his bleeding hand in Django Unchained, or Brad Pitt's opening speech in Inglourious Basterds or the Christopher Walken scene in Pulp Fiction, etc.) but he keeps the monologues interesting and easy to follow. Plus the actors get to go crazy with them, not really present in Shakespeare's plays. Truthfully we have posters on this forum with a more interesting, witty and funny writing styles, opebo and Tweed are both far superior. So yeah just wasn't fond of his stuff.

Yeah!  Who needs that fusty old William Shakespeare when we have opebo for all our literary needs!

I came here to post this.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 18, 2013, 03:37:44 PM
I'll just say I've laughed far more times at an opebo post than a Shakespeare work. The Professor was another example of a poster that was a better writer.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 18, 2013, 03:41:17 PM
I'll just say I've laughed far more times at an opebo post than a Shakespeare work. The Professor was another example of a poster that was a better writer.

Keep posting directly here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 18, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
I'll just say I've laughed far more times at an opebo post than a Shakespeare work. The Professor was another example of a poster that was a better writer.

Settle down.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 18, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
I don't even love Billy Shakes but...

Dumping on Shakespeare should not be protected by the First Amendment. I consider that akin to treason - worse because it disrespects the English language (which he more than anyone else in its modern form gave birth to), rather than a mere political entity.

He was also gratuitous and whiny (setting myself up for something, i get it) and is placed on a pedestal for being the inventor of the cliche as well as the master of unoriginality before it was original. Essentially, he was the world's first bullsh*tter and is treated like a God for it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 18, 2013, 09:29:54 PM
I'll just say I've laughed far more times at an opebo post than a Shakespeare work. The Professor was another example of a poster that was a better writer.

Settle down.

No, The Professor was awesome.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 19, 2013, 12:22:31 AM
I am not going to postpone my life just because I don't have a job and I will actively enjoy life while I'm trying to rebound.

what's wrong with that?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 19, 2013, 05:13:56 AM
I'll just say I've laughed far more times at an opebo post than a Shakespeare work. The Professor was another example of a poster that was a better writer.

Settle down.

No, The Professor was awesome.

Indeed he was, but it's going too far to say he was a better writer than Shakespeare.

"Romeo, drinking poison will not help you get girls."


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 19, 2013, 12:48:42 PM
My example was with about the bare minimum hours that you could possibly get.  Why are you set on going to Kenya instead of making money?  Some money is better than no money.

If you were working 5 8-hour days at $11, that's taking home $350 per week minus $70 in gas if the job is FORTY miles away.  So that's still $280 in income.  And did you even apply to a job that was 40 miles away?

Probably not.  You said none were closer than 15 miles, so if you only drove 118 miles yesterday, I can't see how any of the jobs would be 40 miles away, as that alone would be 80 miles of your 118 miles yesterday, meaning that all of the other driving you did was only 38 miles.

Inks, I've got a plan.  The plan is working.  That's all that needs to be said.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 19, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
Do Update posts really need to be copied here?  It's sort of given that they belong here and it will hasten the day this landfill needs to be closed and another thread opened to take its place.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 19, 2013, 03:12:14 PM
A big reason Shakespeare comes across as boring is that it has often been performed so boringly.

I think very few people can understand the language today.  Its rather like listening to people from the North of England talking - you get some very rough idea what is going on, but it isn't fun after about five minutes.
^^^^^^^
Biggest waste of high school. And that says a lot. He gets crazy respect because he's old.  The iambic pentameter is an impressive feat, but it's also a pretty stupid literary device that I find very distracting. It's like somebody is dribbling a basketball during every play. His storytelling isn't all that imaginative. He took a lot of ideas from others, as the idea of plagiarism wasn't yet a thing. 

Awful even by this poster's standards.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 19, 2013, 03:15:48 PM
Modern obsession with plagiarism is truly a cancer.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Insula Dei on March 19, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
I am not going to postpone my life just because I don't have a job and I will actively enjoy life while I'm trying to rebound.

what's wrong with that?

With unemployment comes the moral obligation to be miserable every moment of every day.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 19, 2013, 04:30:23 PM
Modern obsession with plagiarism is truly a cancer.

Especially in academia :'(


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 19, 2013, 04:54:18 PM
Modern obsession with plagiarism is truly a cancer.

Especially in academia :'(

I'd argue that that's the only place where it isn't a cancer, to be honest.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 19, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
I am not going to postpone my life just because I don't have a job and I will actively enjoy life while I'm trying to rebound.

what's wrong with that?

The source and context. No one is asking he "postpone life."


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on March 19, 2013, 06:32:14 PM
Double deluge
Dumping on Shakespeare should not be protected by the First Amendment. I consider that akin to treason - worse because it disrespects the English language (which he more than anyone else in its modern form gave birth to), rather than a mere political entity.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 19, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
Double deluge
Dumping on Shakespeare should not be protected by the First Amendment. I consider that akin to treason - worse because it disrespects the English language (which he more than anyone else in its modern form gave birth to), rather than a mere political entity.

You're one to talk. Your opinions on English verse lack all merit. In fact, I'd argue that it's very unlikely that they'll ever gain merit, since they appear to be based on an ear for poetic form so bad that I wasn't actually aware that it was possible before this afternoon.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on March 19, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
Double deluge
Dumping on Shakespeare should not be protected by the First Amendment. I consider that akin to treason - worse because it disrespects the English language (which he more than anyone else in its modern form gave birth to), rather than a mere political entity.

You're one to talk. Your opinions on English verse lack all merit. In fact, I'd argue that it's very unlikely that they'll ever gain merit, since they appear to be based on an ear for poetic form so bad that I wasn't actually aware that it was possible before this afternoon.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 19, 2013, 07:03:22 PM
Double deluge
Dumping on Shakespeare should not be protected by the First Amendment. I consider that akin to treason - worse because it disrespects the English language (which he more than anyone else in its modern form gave birth to), rather than a mere political entity.

You're one to talk. Your opinions on English verse lack all merit. In fact, I'd argue that it's very unlikely that they'll ever gain merit, since they appear to be based on an ear for poetic form so bad that I wasn't actually aware that it was possible before this afternoon.

You're acting like a particularly petty middle-schooler. This is hilarious. Goldmined.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 19, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
Ernest had a good point, but for this I could not resist:

Jeff, you didn't address my main point.... how is applying for a job and refusing an offer not spitting in your potential employer's face?

Maybe things change between application and offer?

If any of the places I applied to were to call me, I would consider it.  It doesn't mean I have to accept it as long as I seriously consider it.  For all they know, I may have gotten offers from different places at the same time and had to choose just one.

Maybe things change between the offer to send you to Kenya and now.

For all your donor knows, you may have gotten an offer for a job and had to choose that to support yourself instead of deceiving people into giving you money.

Please stop acting like I'm the villain in all this.  I'm not the victim, but I'm not the villain, either.

You've changed the subject.  How are the two situations any different?  You're applying opposite standards in each case so that you can get to go to Kenya... your standards are patently illogical.

What do you think your donor would say if you asked his advice: "I've received a job offer that would supply me with much-needed money, but I think I'm going to turn it down because I would not want to offend you."  If your donor has half a brain, he'd tell you, "Take the job!  You can go to Kenya when you're able."

The fact is I am able to go now.  I won't be able to in March 2014.  The next time I can go is late 2014.  I hope you're not suggesting I should wait another 18-24 months to see my children?  Nearly 3 years is too long for this father not to see his kids.  Nobody can argue with the fact that I am their daddy or that my love for them is like a father.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 19, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
Modern obsession with plagiarism is truly a cancer.

Especially in academia :'(

I'd argue that that's the only place where it isn't a cancer, to be honest.

^^^^^^


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 20, 2013, 12:09:14 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 20, 2013, 12:16:46 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

I quoted it to express approval, not as "this belongs in the deluge" quoting. Sorry for the confusion.


Anyway, I do hate citing sources requirements, but that's only because my technique for writing papers mainly consists in writing whatever comes out of my head at the time.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 20, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

I quoted it to express approval, not as "this belongs in the deluge" quoting. Sorry for the confusion.

No, I wasn't confused; I was agreeing with you (and by extension myself). Very vehemently. I'm sorry for the confusion on that point!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 20, 2013, 01:38:50 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

I quoted it to express approval, not as "this belongs in the deluge" quoting. Sorry for the confusion.

No, I wasn't confused; I was agreeing with you (and by extension myself). Very vehemently. I'm sorry for the confusion on that point!

Oops, my bad. :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 20, 2013, 07:06:24 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

No.  But the idea that you can 'say anything new' seems to me absurd.  Completely derivative is the only possibility for academic work.

What I used to do as a student was sit down, write a ten page paper in about one hour, from notions in my head, and then stick in 'citations' randomly throughout, crediting sources with things they hadn't said at all. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 20, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

No.  But the idea that you can 'say anything new' seems to me absurd.  Completely derivative is the only possibility for academic work.

This is also true in many cases, but I would submit that thoroughly cited and sourced unoriginality is a rewarding art to get right, and not all that difficult if one knows what one is about.

Quote
What I used to do as a student was sit down, write a ten page paper in about one hour, from notions in my head, and then stick in 'citations' randomly throughout, crediting sources with things they hadn't said at all. 

I see. That's lazy and dishonest, but actually far better than some people I could mention.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 20, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
My respect for opebo has become even higher.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 20, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
Naso learns new words:

I would have called the police too

That's because you are untenable.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 21, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
Moving to the center on social issues won't help the GOP. It'll just send their white working class voters into the hands of the Democrats, who actually would do a better job representing them anyway, at least on pocketbook issues. If the Republicans want to make themselves electable and make inroads with minorities, they don't need to move to the left on social issues. Rather, they need to stop being the elected patrons of plutocratic privilege.

Of course that will never happen. The Republicans have been in plutocracy's grip since 1876, and every time they nominate a reformer (T.R., Ike) they ultimately get outmaneuvered by the bone-headed business elites that want to drag the country back into the Gilded Age. If by some miracle the GOP could move to the center on economics, or even the center-left, they'd have a good shot at rebuilding themselves as a mass party, conservative social positions or not.

Correct, and this, coupled with the possibility that the Democratic party could someday move left due to the browns makes me anticipate some form of (further) anti-democratic alteration of the State - as our own pbrower has often predicted.

I'd say that's more likely than most people assume. The wealthy aren't just going to allow the Democrats to waltz in and start redistributing their piles of cash. We're already seeing the champions of cheap labor mobilize to deny the poor the vote again in the South and the periphery regions they control by implementing Voter ID and trying to change the rules that govern the electoral college to make it even less representative than it already is.

That, and they already own the courts. That much is obvious. The United States Constitution is the greatest ally the plutocrats have, as it breaks up and divides power without democratizing it. And they own the media and the universities, contrary to conservative ballyhooing about the "left" owning the media and the academy.

There are a lot of ways that the plutocrats can conspire to limit the impending Democratic majority. They've already gerrymandered the House to be their's for at least until 2020. They're deliberately sabotaging the economy in hopes of taking the Senate in 2014. Should they gain control of the White House in 2016, they'll be ripe to prevent that Democratic majority from ever emerging by passing such awful things like a national right-to-work bill, national voter ID, means-testing everything, and expanding the influence of globalization in the American economy.

tl;dr -  Don't get cocky, Democrats. Even with the public scared sh**tless at the moment by the GOP doesn't mean that the GOP will become completely unelectable and unable to win, even while remaining on the far-right. They'll just do as they always have - change the rules to continue the domination of American society by a plutocratic elite.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 21, 2013, 02:44:39 PM
Ben the right-winger.  Why is your avatar red, Ben?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 21, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
Ben the right-winger.  Why is your avatar red, Ben?

You of all people should know that the Democratic Party ranges from moderately leftist to center-right, right?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on March 21, 2013, 02:49:02 PM
Wrong thread, Ben.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 21, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Ben the right-winger.  Why is your avatar red, Ben?

I'm no right-winger, Opebo.  I just find class warfare posts hyperbolic and absurd.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 21, 2013, 02:52:41 PM
Ben the right-winger.  Why is your avatar red, Ben?

You of all people should know that the Democratic Party ranges from moderately leftist to center-right, right?

Yeah, I know - in the real world, but it just seems strange that one would choose an avatar on here that way.  Especially since he didn't bother to try to dispute the post in the original thread, but instead reposted it here solely because he saw my reposting of it in the 'Good Post Gallery'.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 21, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
instead reposted it here solely because he saw my reposting of it in the 'Good Post Gallery'.

I didn't actually read the original thread.  Surely one isn't expected to respond to every post they dislike on the entire forum?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on March 21, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
instead reposted it here solely because he saw my reposting of it in the 'Good Post Gallery'.

I didn't actually read the original thread.  Surely one isn't expected to respond to every post they dislike on the entire forum?

I should think if you dislike it strongly enough to post it in the absurdity/bad post thread you could bother to tell us why - in the appropriate thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on March 21, 2013, 06:24:56 PM
All of Inks' posts bullying and harassing Bushie belong here but I can't quote from closed threads.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 21, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
All of Inks' posts bullying and harassing Bushie belong here but I can't quote from closed threads.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 21, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
Ben the right-winger.  Why is your avatar red, Ben?

You of all people should know that the Democratic Party ranges from moderately leftist to center-right, right?

The post though is about what he expects the Republicans to do to try to retain power, so for any partisan Democrat to attack it is kind of absurd. It's basically Ben trying to score Moderate Hero points, similar to his defense of the results of the 2000 election.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 22, 2013, 05:38:11 PM
Context*

I'm going to go against the grain and say Freedom Fighter.  He provides a old-fashioned, old school conservative approach, which is not necessarily a bad thing and is something this forum badly needs.  I sincerely hope he is not a sock or a troll.  He needs to stick around.

* = might induce vomitting


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 23, 2013, 07:59:05 PM
5 Best (no particular order):

Reagan (defeated USSR)

Jefferson (wrote Declaration, L. Purchase)

Washington (set an excellent example with retirement after two terms)

Lincoln (kept the Union together, freed the slaves)

T.R. (one of the more brilliant men ever to lead the country, the quintessential American)


5 Worst (no particular order):

LBJ (Great Society disaster, Vietnam quagmire)

Nixon (Watergate, price and wage controls, too soft on USSR)

Clinton (did nothing to respond to terrorist attacks, lied under oath, eight scandal filled years)

Carter (the second most incompetent president of all time)

Kennedy (the most incompetent president of all time)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 23, 2013, 08:01:34 PM
Everything krazen has posted in this thread or is likely to post is unbelievably terrible. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170944.0)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 23, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
It's not uncommon for benconstine to make posts about how unreasonable some idea is in order to show that he's really a moderate. The Forum Community empty-quote threads (like this one) are especially useful for that purpose since they don't require any real work in order to make the desired point.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 23, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
Everything krazen has posted in this thread or is likely to post is unbelievably terrible. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170944.0)

Fixed.

It's worth it, though, just to see your awesome responses to his bullsh*t. ;)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on March 23, 2013, 10:10:19 PM
Everything krazen has posted in this thread or is likely to post is unbelievably terrible. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=170944.0)

Fixed.

It's worth it, though, just to see your awesome responses to his bullsh*t. ;)

I wouldn't use awesome. Verbose and well phrased, sure.  However,  Nathan still lost his cool and jumped in the mud. Krazen has been successful in his trolling. 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 23, 2013, 10:16:07 PM
I don't see anything wrong with insulting people who deserve it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on March 23, 2013, 10:27:03 PM
I don't see anything wrong with insulting people who deserve it.


Couple problems: everyone has their own conception of who deserves it and insults inherently solve nothing. The insults only makes you temporarily feel better but then superior.  Once you dehumanize your opponent the next steps become easier. IMHO, you have to try to treat everyone with respect and dignity. Most fail this call. I certainly do.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 23, 2013, 10:29:40 PM
I don't see anything wrong with insulting people who deserve it.


Couple problems: everyone has their own conception of who deserves it and insults inherently solve nothing. The insults only makes you temporarily feel better but then superior.  Once you dehumanize your opponent the next steps become easier. IMHO, you have to try to treat everyone with respect and dignity. Most fail this call. I certainly do.

Come on, it's Krazen we're talking about.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 23, 2013, 10:30:09 PM
IMHO, you have to try to treat everyone with respect and dignity. Most fail this call. I certainly do.

Nathan is probably better at this than most people.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 23, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
Lost my cool or not (I admit I was upset, but I was also in full possession of my faculties and seriously considered not engaging), I stand by everything I said in this instance.

IMHO, you have to try to treat everyone with respect and dignity. Most fail this call. I certainly do.

Nathan is probably better at this than most people.

Not really, but thank you for the compliment.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 23, 2013, 10:51:19 PM
Anyway, I don't subscribe to that notion that everyone deserves respect. Sure, there ought to be a great deal of tolerance for diverging views and certainly the members of an internet forum tend to err on the side of disrespect, but that does not mean people ought to respect you regardless of how you behave.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: patrick1 on March 23, 2013, 11:03:34 PM
Anyway, I don't subscribe to that notion that everyone deserves respect. Sure, there ought to be a great deal of tolerance for diverging views and certainly the members of an internet forum tend to err on the side of disrespect, but that does not mean people ought to respect you regardless of how you behave.

Maybe I'm just in a particularly self righteous or thoughtful mood tonight but there is a difference between respect for a person's behavior and beliefs and respect for someone as a fellow human being. Confronting people for their wrong headed beliefs and actions is necessary. Debasing them in the process is not and often is counter-productive.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 23, 2013, 11:10:05 PM
Anyway, I don't subscribe to that notion that everyone deserves respect. Sure, there ought to be a great deal of tolerance for diverging views and certainly the members of an internet forum tend to err on the side of disrespect, but that does not mean people ought to respect you regardless of how you behave.

Maybe I'm just in a particularly self righteous or thoughtful mood tonight but there is a difference between respect for a person's behavior and beliefs and respect for someone as a fellow human being. Confronting people for their wrong headed beliefs and actions is necessary. Debasing them in the process is not and often is counter-productive.

I agree with you in theory, but I suppose you could say I'm in a particularly...er, non-self-righteous, thoughtless mood tonight (for reasons that antedate krazen's latest round of malarkey and weren't especially affected by it one way or another). Plus, he's a bit of a blind spot for my social standards in general, which is probably not a good thing but which concerns me less than it perhaps should.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 23, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
Anyway, I don't subscribe to that notion that everyone deserves respect. Sure, there ought to be a great deal of tolerance for diverging views and certainly the members of an internet forum tend to err on the side of disrespect, but that does not mean people ought to respect you regardless of how you behave.

Maybe I'm just in a particularly self righteous or thoughtful mood tonight but there is a difference between respect for a person's behavior and beliefs and respect for someone as a fellow human being. Confronting people for their wrong headed beliefs and actions is necessary. Debasing them in the process is not and often is counter-productive.

It would be great indeed if we all were in all circumstances able to engage in constructive debate and never resort to personal hatred. But this is impossible, party because human beings are naturally prone to develop personal animosity and partly because some people just deserve it. It's not about being right or wrong, but about a general attitude and behavior. There's just no point in engaging in policy debate with Krazen, nothing good would ever come out of that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 23, 2013, 11:46:21 PM
Citing your damn sources is really not that hard.

No.  But the idea that you can 'say anything new' seems to me absurd.  Completely derivative is the only possibility for academic work.

Of course you can say something new... Not everything has already been written about.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Rooney on March 24, 2013, 06:22:56 PM
Of course you can say something new... Not everything has already been written about.
Please tell that to John Grisham.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 25, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
I would like to note that when even Nathan is calling one a "puckered asshole", they must deserve it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 25, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
The fact that people of any stature chose to associate with Ted Nugent after that tirade show how rotten they are.  People  who chose to associate with him are not fellow citizens, they are enemies of democracy--terrorists and traitors.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on March 25, 2013, 12:55:09 PM
The fact that people of any stature chose to associate with Ted Nugent after that tirade show how rotten they are.  People  who chose to associate with him are not fellow citizens, they are enemies of democracy--terrorists and traitors.

This is especially absurd, considering how many people probably own at least one Nugent record (most likely from the Seventies when he was still somewhat sane).
Does Dingojoe think the 3 million people who bought "Cat Scratch Fever" are traitors?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on March 25, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
The fact that people of any stature chose to associate with Ted Nugent after that tirade show how rotten they are.  People  who chose to associate with him are not fellow citizens, they are enemies of democracy--terrorists and traitors.

My god. This makes my statement sound reasonable.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on March 25, 2013, 02:48:18 PM
I would like to note that when even Nathan is calling one a "puckered asshole", they must deserve it.
Indeed one wonders whether Nathan has verified the fact.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 25, 2013, 02:53:36 PM
I would like to note that when even Nathan is calling one a "puckered asshole", they must deserve it.
Indeed one wonders whether Nathan has verified the fact.

................


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 25, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
I think this is the first time I've ever seen a left-winger argue for census suffrage:

I think this has become an issue of taxation without representation.

The larger cities are paying most of the taxes, but the outlying areas are getting most of the benefits. At the same time, the outlying areas are effectively controlling all of a state's electoral votes.

I'm sure you can find the same scam in other states. I bet Obama carried each of Indiana's 7 largest cities, even though Romney got all the electoral votes.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 25, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
Back when Lauren Faust was still on, it was probably the best written show on TV.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 25, 2013, 08:24:49 PM
Wealthy liberals, ala Geore Soros, Warren Buffett, Ted Turner, etc.  There may be some wealthy conservative enclaves (Minneapolis/St. Paul suburbs, Southern suburbs, Orange County, CA), but most of the wealthiest areas outside of there are some of the most Democrat.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 25, 2013, 08:35:32 PM

I would hardly say this is deluge-worthy. A bit of an exaggeration, sure - My Little Pony may have been an excellent show during Faust's run, but it was a far cry from the best-written thing on TV - but not at all worthy of being thrown in here with the likes of Krazen.

It's absurd therefore worthy of inclusion.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 26, 2013, 02:34:44 AM
Wealthy liberals, ala Geore Soros, Warren Buffett, Ted Turner, etc.  There may be some wealthy conservative enclaves (Minneapolis/St. Paul suburbs, Southern suburbs, Orange County, CA), but most of the wealthiest areas outside of there are some of the most Democrat.

...

Wow.

What's the opposite of "gift that keeps on giving"?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 26, 2013, 02:45:59 AM

I would hardly say this is deluge-worthy. A bit of an exaggeration, sure - My Little Pony may have been an excellent show during Faust's run, but it was a far cry from the best-written thing on TV - but not at all worthy of being thrown in here with the likes of Krazen.

It's absurd therefore worthy of inclusion.

Mr Kemp is correct.
"The best written currently-running cartoon" would have been a legitimate opinion. "The best written show on TV" is absurd.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 29, 2013, 03:50:18 PM
I don't see anything wrong with insulting people who deserve it.

It's usually a waste of time and effort better spent on other tasks.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 29, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with insulting people who deserve it.

It's usually a waste of time and effort better spent on other tasks.

It is indeed a waste of time to some extent, but it feels so good. Many of the best things we do fall under that definition.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 29, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Snyder will be in great shape in 2014.

Because most Governors with 37/54 approvals (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MI_306.pdf) are reelected just fine!

I'm so glad Governor Perdue is still in office!

A better example would be Pat Quinn.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on March 29, 2013, 11:59:15 PM
Snyder will be in great shape in 2014.

Because most Governors with 37/54 approvals (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MI_306.pdf) are reelected just fine!

I'm so glad Governor Perdue is still in office!

A better example would be Pat Quinn.

Comparing a Democratic governor in a dark blue state to a Republican governor in a light blue state is ludicrous, especially when that governor most likely won't even make it past the primary.


The bizarre time warp of using Mr. Snyder's approval rating in an arbitrary poll in March 2013 is certainly quite ludicrous, yes.


The unions think they can defeat our champion union busters; well, they thought so about Christie and Walker back in 2011.

It just keeps getting worse, BRTD.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 30, 2013, 11:04:26 AM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 30, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on March 30, 2013, 03:17:38 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

Yeah, there's a lot of reasons to blame Bush (or, more accurately, neoliberal economic policies under Bush and his conservative Democratic predecessor) for the economic collapse of 2008 and a lot of reasons to oppose the Bush tax cuts, but to say that the Bush tax cuts directly caused the 2008 recession is ridiculous, and the post you linked is wrong but not totally absurd or ignorant, and I don't want this thread to turn into:
()


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on March 30, 2013, 06:36:42 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

Perhaps but it doesn't mean the rest of it isn't awful.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 30, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
Negative for the same but opposite reason I think highly of Michael Vick. Despite Vick's obvious negatives, I think he's had an overall positive impact on the people who derive value from the things he does and says and the people they impact. The exact opposite could be said of the cult of character surrounding Jesus Christ.

That anybody could directly imply with seeming sincerity that he has a higher opinion of Michael Vick than of Jesus is...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on March 31, 2013, 03:08:10 AM
Negative for the same but opposite reason I think highly of Michael Vick. Despite Vick's obvious negatives, I think he's had an overall positive impact on the people who derive value from the things he does and says and the people they impact. The exact opposite could be said of the cult of character surrounding Jesus Christ.

That anybody could directly imply with seeming sincerity that he has a higher opinion of Michael Vick than of Jesus is...

...even from a non-Christian standpoint, that is whacked.

I read it as tongue in cheek.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 31, 2013, 03:43:56 AM
I sincerely hope that's a fair reading.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 31, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
HP, just like anyone else who lead a cult.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 31, 2013, 12:59:14 PM
In fairness, he explains and qualifies that later on in the thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on April 01, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
This is an absolute nightmare.  Sanford obviously is clueless to the fact that he can never win an election again, and we get Stephen Colbert's sister in Congress.  Isn't one comedian (albeit an election thief) in Washington enough?
But in all seriousness, since I believe SC is open primary, I expect a lot of Democrats to cross over to suplort Sanford.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 01, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
President Pierce delivered one of the most eloquent veto addresses in the history of the American Presidency. He vetoed the Land-Grant Bill For Indigent Insane Persons on May 3, 1854, by stating that even though a piece of legislation may be popular that does not make it Constitutional. "I have been compelled to resist the deep sympathies of my own heart in favor of the humane purpose sought to be accomplished," Pierce wrote as he argued that the bill violated section eight of Article I of the United States Constitution. The very idea that a president would veto a popular bill because it was unconstitutional makes me have a high opinion of President Pierce.

He also vetoed such unconstitutional waste as a bill that would benefit only the Des Moines River Valley, the St. Clair Flats and the port of Baltimore. In vetoing popular legislation Pierce upheld classically liberal traditions of local support but alienated his own Democratic base leading to his defeat at the hands of good old boy James Buchanan who would usher in four years of utter corruption and waste in the federal government. Pierce was an excellent president.

libertarians


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 01, 2013, 10:54:30 PM
President Pierce delivered one of the most eloquent veto addresses in the history of the American Presidency. He vetoed the Land-Grant Bill For Indigent Insane Persons on May 3, 1854, by stating that even though a piece of legislation may be popular that does not make it Constitutional. "I have been compelled to resist the deep sympathies of my own heart in favor of the humane purpose sought to be accomplished," Pierce wrote as he argued that the bill violated section eight of Article I of the United States Constitution. The very idea that a president would veto a popular bill because it was unconstitutional makes me have a high opinion of President Pierce.

He also vetoed such unconstitutional waste as a bill that would benefit only the Des Moines River Valley, the St. Clair Flats and the port of Baltimore. In vetoing popular legislation Pierce upheld classically liberal traditions of local support but alienated his own Democratic base leading to his defeat at the hands of good old boy James Buchanan who would usher in four years of utter corruption and waste in the federal government. Pierce was an excellent president.

libertarians

Sigh...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 02, 2013, 01:23:16 AM
With that name, I imagine the administrator from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 02, 2013, 07:11:30 PM
Yeah, this just shows he has actual strong beliefs rather than basing his views on personal emotions.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Rooney on April 02, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
My apologies that I do not hold the same opinion as you on President Pierce. I shall strive to do better in the future.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 02, 2013, 08:20:28 PM
Gotta love Progressive tolerance!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 02, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
It's impossible to be even an average president if you actively support people who are rebelling against the government because they want to have the right to own other people. Do you disagree with this?
()()

Their rebellion wasn't fought purely on the basis of owning people.

Neither was the Confederacy's.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 02, 2013, 10:11:52 PM

You're closer to being real people than corporations, I'll give you that. ;)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on April 03, 2013, 12:06:32 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 03, 2013, 01:24:23 PM
They're right to sue. I wish more people would sue their high schools if they can't find a job.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 03, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on April 03, 2013, 02:06:28 PM
All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.

Only for you clueless right-wingers.  For people who have any cognizance of the actual state of affairs in the world, he's merely plaintive and overly optimistic, but basically correct most of the time.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 03, 2013, 02:34:29 PM
All Bandit posts should be redirected to The Goldmine.

Only for you clueless right-wingers.  For people who have any cognizance of the actual state of affairs in the world, he's merely plaintive and overly optimistic, but basically correct most of the time.

Your act is so stale these days that it's laughably predictable.

Also, thanks for posting that directing into this thread. Makes things easier.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on April 03, 2013, 04:08:11 PM

Why would one lend credence to the PM score, Wyodon?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on April 03, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
Because Kemp appears to have been around more than long enough to be legitimate, and seems fairly devoutly left-wing?

Really?  Well, I don't make it a project to observe him very closely, but I always assumed him to be a bit right-leaning.. perhaps its just an impression, but then again his PM score isn't a proper ->7/->7.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 03, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
Because Kemp appears to have been around more than long enough to be legitimate, and seems fairly devoutly left-wing?

Really?  Well, I don't make it a project to observe him very closely, but I always assumed him to be a bit right-leaning.. perhaps its just an impression, but then again his PM score isn't a proper ->7/->7.

Does it count if you average the two to -7? -8/-6, for example? Do you weight E scores or S scores more heavily? Or are they both the same?

Stay tuned as we peek more into the mind of the legendary opebo, ladies and gentlemen.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 03, 2013, 10:29:01 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

you don't have that sort of financial crisis without a recession
and since the stimulus was likewise a combination of tax cuts and spending . . .


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 03, 2013, 11:15:02 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

Iraq and the tax cuts are definitely right, but it's a little strange to hear a Democrat arguing for "lockboxing" to pay down the debt at the expense of expanded Medicare coverage.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 03, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

Iraq and the tax cuts are definitely right, but it's a little strange to hear a Democrat arguing for "lockboxing" to pay down the debt at the expense of expanded Medicare coverage.

Except that was Al Gore's proposal.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 03, 2013, 11:22:46 PM
I really don't understand how you can say the economy wouldn't have been as bad in 2008. The crisis had absolutely nothing to do with tax cuts. It was due to the governments interference in the housing market via fannie mae & freddie mac. If anything the Gore economy would have been worse. Bush inherited a slumping economy that got worse because of 9/11. The tax cuts didn't take full effect until 2003, at which point, the economy picked up until the housing market bubble.

there's nothing in there that's as absurd as blaming the financial crisis on tax cuts.

If we didn't have the tax cuts, Iraq, and Medicare Part D, instead going the Gore route of lockboxing and paying down the debt, the stimulus packages could have been double in size and twice in length and scope and we wouldn't have felt a recession at all.

Iraq and the tax cuts are definitely right, but it's a little strange to hear a Democrat arguing for "lockboxing" to pay down the debt at the expense of expanded Medicare coverage.

Except that was Al Gore's proposal.

That's true, which is part of why I would have voted for Nader in 2000 (even with hindsight) and why I probably should have said "liberal/leftist" instead of "Democrat" in my post.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 04, 2013, 04:09:10 AM
3. Sweet Jesus man, your signature breaks virtually every rule of decency/sanity; the only thing that could possibly make it worse would be the inclusion of an epilepsy-inducing GIF or something.
Decency? Coming from the person who has a picture of the man who raped a bunch of women, cheated on Hillary, lied about it in front of the press, and then nearly became the first man to be thrown out of office by the Senate. Rainbow Dash at least has a lot of positive significance. She's so loved by all of us bronies because we love her great sense of humor and plus we like to consider her the lesbian Pegasus on the show such as when she asked Fluttershy in a joyful tone "You're gay?" and they were about to kiss. Not to mention the obvious giveaway that her hair is the LGBT colors. So in a way, it's more of a strong movement & message we get from My Little Pony & Rainbow Dash of being friendly to everyone which includes the LGBT community.

...I have nothing to say.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 04, 2013, 06:05:01 AM
3. Sweet Jesus man, your signature breaks virtually every rule of decency/sanity; the only thing that could possibly make it worse would be the inclusion of an epilepsy-inducing GIF or something.
Decency? Coming from the person who has a picture of the man who raped a bunch of women, cheated on Hillary, lied about it in front of the press, and then nearly became the first man to be thrown out of office by the Senate. Rainbow Dash at least has a lot of positive significance. She's so loved by all of us bronies because we love her great sense of humor and plus we like to consider her the lesbian Pegasus on the show such as when she asked Fluttershy in a joyful tone "You're gay?" and they were about to kiss. Not to mention the obvious giveaway that her hair is the LGBT colors. So in a way, it's more of a strong movement & message we get from My Little Pony & Rainbow Dash of being friendly to everyone which includes the LGBT community.

...I have nothing to say.

Wow.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 04, 2013, 08:12:50 AM
Who is that clown?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 04, 2013, 09:54:30 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=171531.0

Every BRTD's post in this thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
3. Sweet Jesus man, your signature breaks virtually every rule of decency/sanity; the only thing that could possibly make it worse would be the inclusion of an epilepsy-inducing GIF or something.
Decency? Coming from the person who has a picture of the man who raped a bunch of women, cheated on Hillary, lied about it in front of the press, and then nearly became the first man to be thrown out of office by the Senate. Rainbow Dash at least has a lot of positive significance. She's so loved by all of us bronies because we love her great sense of humor and plus we like to consider her the lesbian Pegasus on the show such as when she asked Fluttershy in a joyful tone "You're gay?" and they were about to kiss. Not to mention the obvious giveaway that her hair is the LGBT colors. So in a way, it's more of a strong movement & message we get from My Little Pony & Rainbow Dash of being friendly to everyone which includes the LGBT community.

...I have nothing to say.

Wow.

^^^^^^


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 04, 2013, 02:14:29 PM
that is seriously the worst post that has ever been posted on this forum

seriously, I'd sooner read the combined posting histories of Krazen, BSB, Bushie, BRTD and the like before I read that post again

Adam, it's time for you to go


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LeBron on April 04, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
that is seriously the worst post that has ever been posted on this forum

seriously, I'd sooner read the combined posting histories of Krazen, BSB, Bushie, BRTD and the like before I read that post again

Adam, it's time for you to go
There's nothing wrong with that post with the exception of posting it before realizing that Rainbow Dash did kiss Fluttershy on the nose before, but not the lips which was from a different scene and episode. It's just a matter of looking into things deeper and getting a bigger picture out of things which includes President Clinton & My Little Pony. Have you even watched the show to consider its significance to LGBT pride?

@Paul, I was just about to say the same thing to you ;P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 04, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
that is seriously the worst post that has ever been posted on this forum

seriously, I'd sooner read the combined posting histories of Krazen, BSB, Bushie, BRTD and the like before I read that post again

Adam, it's time for you to go
There's nothing wrong with that post with the exception of posting it before realizing that Rainbow Dash did kiss Fluttershy on the nose before, but not the lips which was from a different scene and episode. It's just a matter of looking into things deeper and getting a bigger picture out of things which includes President Clinton & My Little Pony. Have you even watched the show to consider its significance to LGBT pride?

@Paul, I was just about to say the same thing to you ;P


You are trying to argue that a cartoon ****ing horse is more "decent" than a president of the United States.

Take a step back for a minute and realize how absurd that sounds.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LeBron on April 04, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
that is seriously the worst post that has ever been posted on this forum

seriously, I'd sooner read the combined posting histories of Krazen, BSB, Bushie, BRTD and the like before I read that post again

Adam, it's time for you to go
There's nothing wrong with that post with the exception of posting it before realizing that Rainbow Dash did kiss Fluttershy on the nose before, but not the lips which was from a different scene and episode. It's just a matter of looking into things deeper and getting a bigger picture out of things which includes President Clinton & My Little Pony. Have you even watched the show to consider its significance to LGBT pride?

@Paul, I was just about to say the same thing to you ;P


You are trying to argue that a cartoon ****ing horse is more "decent" than a president of the United States.

Take a step back for a minute and realize how absurd that sounds.
I never said that Clinton wasn't a decent man because I think he was personally a great President, but I was calling him out on the moral background of it. Initially, I was fine with Bacon King having that picture of Bill in his sig but after he was calling my sig sh**t and saying it had no decency or sanctity, it really brings up a good debate. There's no debating though with the fact that Bill was an adulterer, yet just because Rainbow Dash is non-realistic and is into other female ponies there's a problem? And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 04, 2013, 03:37:15 PM
The long storied tradition of posting straight into the Deluge continues with a new standard bearer it seems.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 04, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
The long storied tradition of posting straight into the Deluge continues with a new standard bearer it seems.

Yep, time to dust off the ignore button.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 04, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute entomological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 04, 2013, 03:57:20 PM
Adam, how the hell is your S score positive? Are you ravingly anti-abortion in order to compensate for your weird obsession with lesbian horses?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 04, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
Oh my God.

Not even commenting on the Clinton issue, but coming from a fellow "brony", you are reading far too much into a TV-Y show. First of all, in that episode, Rainbow Dash quite clearly said "you're game?", and seriously, her having rainbow hair has nothing to do with homosexuality (and there's obviously no indication of her sexual orientation at all, because it's a cartoon for children). It's a goddamn rainbow, because she's a weather pony and because the original target audience (young girls) likes rainbows.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 04, 2013, 04:10:49 PM
It's a goddamn rainbow, because she's a weather pony

Jesus, Adam! Everyone knows that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 04, 2013, 04:15:52 PM
And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute etymological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?

I don't think that word means what you think it means :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 04, 2013, 04:16:48 PM
No pony cancer.  Not in this thread.  Please.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 04, 2013, 04:24:38 PM
And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute etymological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?

I don't think that word means what you think it means :P

There is one about bugs and one about words. Did I use the wrong one?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 04, 2013, 04:25:49 PM
Thread needs more Findus.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2013, 04:27:41 PM

Yeah indeed.

We're currently discussing the sexual orientation of a cartoon pony/pegasus/whatever. On a political forum. I just need to type this to see how absurd that sounds.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 04, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
that is seriously the worst post that has ever been posted on this forum

seriously, I'd sooner read the combined posting histories of Krazen, BSB, Bushie, BRTD and the like before I read that post again

Adam, it's time for you to go
There's nothing wrong with that post with the exception of posting it before realizing that Rainbow Dash did kiss Fluttershy on the nose before, but not the lips which was from a different scene and episode. It's just a matter of looking into things deeper and getting a bigger picture out of things which includes President Clinton & My Little Pony. Have you even watched the show to consider its significance to LGBT pride?

@Paul, I was just about to say the same thing to you ;P


You are trying to argue that a cartoon ****ing horse is more "decent" than a president of the United States.

Take a step back for a minute and realize how absurd that sounds.
I never said that Clinton wasn't a decent man because I think he was personally a great President, but I was calling him out on the moral background of it. Initially, I was fine with Bacon King having that picture of Bill in his sig but after he was calling my sig sh**t and saying it had no decency or sanctity, it really brings up a good debate. There's no debating though with the fact that Bill was an adulterer, yet just because Rainbow Dash is non-realistic and is into other female ponies there's a problem? And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

To be brutally honest, the first time I saw your signature I cringed. I would not call it indecent and unholy, but I'd definitely call it a prime example of fremdschämen (http://gxotd.blogspot.com/2010/05/fremdschamen-external-shame.html). The fact that you're comparing a real person in the real-life adult universe we call Earth to a horse (yes, by definition pegasi are HORSES with wings) in a cartoon show made for little girls (although it may have grown another audience in itself) belongs so firmly in the deluge that I had to physically get out of my bed on a 30 degree morning at 5 AM to post it here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 04, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
And for the last time, Rainbow Dash is a Pegasus which means she can fly; horses can't.

Who, exactly, gives a damn? This a serious question. Excluding eight-year-old girls, who do you expect to know or care about the minute etymological differences between various extremely similar characters of an animated children's television show?

I don't think that word means what you think it means :P

There is one about bugs and one about words. Did I use the wrong one?

Etymology is about word origins.  If you had used the one about bugs (entomology) it would have made more sense since that at least could be relevant to whether an organism has wings.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 04, 2013, 04:43:26 PM
Specifically the description of DISTRICT 1.  Do we really need to keep beating that dead pony?

So I ended up redrawing all of Ohio's legislature for both houses. I started for basically two reasons, to get a feel for how the layout the state skews the partisan numbers, and to experiment with grouping three House seats into one Senate. The latter is actually a tad tricky, since you might have an area that's an obvious community of interest and has seven districts, but one has to be left out, and you end up with some awkward Senate districts. But those will come later. For now: House.

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DISTRICT 1: WESTERN A CERTAIN OHIO COUNTY THAT IS NOTHING LIKE BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA. O 26.2%.  96W.  This is actually the most conservative district in the state and the only one where McCain broke 70%. Most likely the same for Romney. Not much to see, Safe R.

DISTRICT 2: WEST CINCINNATI O 59.3%.  61.5W/33.1B. While more conservative than the rest of Cincinnati, this would take a severe drop in black turnout to ever be truly competitive. Likely D.

DISTRICT 3: CENTRAL CINCINNATI: O 85.2%. 50.4B/42.7W. Black majority and just barely in VAP. Obviously Safe D. Even the whites in this district seem to be pretty D.

DISTRICT 4: NORTH CINCINNATI: O 58.7%. 64W/31.6B. This is rather similar to 2 demographically, basically the same, Likely D. A bit more winnable of course.

DISTRICT 5: THE NORTH CENTRAL OF THIS CERTAIN COUNTY:  O 54.1%. 65.5W/26.4B. Probably Lean D. The demographics make it far more winnable in midterms.

DISTRICT 6: EAST CINCINNATI: O 44.6%. 90.6W/4.1B. While this is not as conservative as the demographics would imply in this area, it's still not winnable for any Democrat. Safe R.

DISTRICT 7: THE OTHER MIAMI AND INDIAN HILL: O 46.7%. 78.1W/14.8B. Kind of the same as above. While it's not overwhelmingly conservative, Democrats aren't winning any McCain seat in this region. Safe R.

DISTRICT 8: SOUTH CLERMONT: O 34.1%. 95.7W. Predictable district. Safe R.

DISTRICT 9: NORTH CLERMONT-BROWN: O 33.8%. 96.7 W. Another predictable one. Safe R.

DISTRICT 10: WEST BUTLER: O 40.9%. 89.7W/4.6B. While not as homogenous as you'd expect, this is still a Safe R seat.

DISTRICT 11: SOUTHEAST BUTLER: O 36.8%. 80.7W/8.8B/4.9H/4.3A. Despite the relative diversity, this is another Safe R seat.

DISTRICT 12: EAST CENTRAL BUTLER: O 36.9%. 87.8W/7B. Another generic Safe R seat.

DISTRICT 13: MASON AND LEBANON: O 33.4%. 88W/5.4A. Now it's easy to see where bandit's political outlook comes from. Safe R.

DISTRICT 14: REST OF WARREN AND BUTLER: O 30.2%. 93W/4B. I think this might be the second most R seat in the state. Safe R.

DISTRICT 15: PREBLE AND WEST MONTGOMERY: O 36.6%. 92.8W/4.4B. As expected, Safe R.

DISTRICT 16: WEST DAYTON: O 85.5%. 67B/29.5W. The black part of Dayton, and an effective Dem pack. Safe D.

DISTRICT 17: SOUTH MONTGOMERY: O 38.9%. 88.4W/4.9B. Another one of those generic Safe R seats.

DISTRICT 18: SOUTHEAST DAYTON AND KETTERING: O 47.4%. 90.7W. Not an overwhelmingly conservative seat, but Obama did outperform the generic D numbers here. It's probably at best Likely R.

DISTRICT 19: NORTHEAST DAYTON, VANDALIA AND HUBER HEIGHTS: O 47.2%. 82.6W/10.6B. Same as above basically....except the generic D and R numbers are pretty close here. This might be a bit more competitive even if McCain's numbers are slightly better. Lean R.

DISTRICT 20: MIAMI AND SOUTH SHELBY: O 33.7%. 95.3W. Very boring and homogenous rural seat. Safe R.

And more to come. So far though this is 15R-5D seats.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LeBron on April 04, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
@Sam, how about the entire bronie population? (teenage to adult males) And quite frankly, imo, everyone should care because you can't say that they don't look incredibly adorable.

@Al, I'm a democratic socialist so I believe in authoritarian government intrusion when need be. Also I'm pro-choice.

@Sen. Snowstalker, actually if you listen to this video closely, it can be derived either as "you're gay" or "you're game" because both words sound alike. And it would make more sense that she says "you're gay" since they were about to kiss on the lips. But it doesn't really matter anyways because "you're game" is still a similar question. And Rainbow Dash is a lesbian because it was Fluttershy who backed out of the kiss, not her. As for the other scene, I do remember that episode and I clearly saw Rainbow Dash kiss Fluttershy on the nose. If that isn't enough proof in a widely talked about topic by the fans of Equestria, then I don't know what is. And just because she's a weather pony doesn't mean anything. She can fly, control the weather, and bounce around on clouds, but it has nothing to do with her rainbow hair. Look at Derpy or Scootaloo, they're Pegasi, but they don't have rainbow hair. Rainbow Dash is a special case and I think her creator saw something behind what the rainbow hair could signify for young girls or teenage boys; that you can love each other whether you're straight or love those of the same sex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzjigKcS7K8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzjigKcS7K8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00FEerx4_o4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00FEerx4_o4)



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on April 04, 2013, 05:15:05 PM
...

...

Anyone want to guess how long this one lasts here?  Two days?  A week?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 04, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The Mikado on April 04, 2013, 05:23:25 PM
OK, no.  This thread does not go there.  Go back to posting about other people's absurdity, ignorance, and bad posts, not posting absurdity, ignorance, and bad posts of your own.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 04, 2013, 08:52:14 PM
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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 04, 2013, 11:23:31 PM
Those teeming masses tended to be the cream of the crop of those masses in the places from which they came.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 05, 2013, 03:19:06 AM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.

That's about 20% of the fanbase, from what I've read.



Adam:
Quote from: Lauren Faust
Rainbow Dash has rainbow-striped hair because of her name and because she is very interested in sports, specifically flying. She is a tomboy, but nowhere in the show is her sexual orientation ever referenced. As we all know, there are plenty of straight tomboys in the world, and assuming they are lesbians is extremely unfair to both straight and lesbian tomboys.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 05, 2013, 06:09:28 AM
No pony cancer.  Not in this thread.  Please.
Where else but here?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 05, 2013, 06:15:04 AM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.

That's about 20% of the fanbase, from what I've read.

And, you know, while weird that is perfectly fine. Just as watching that thing is fine (or as near to fine as watching anything on commercial tv regularly is fine, which is to say not really, not entirely.) Mentioning your like for some silly show occasionally, putting it in your sig - fine.

Time to draw a line:



There she is.

Pretending this sh!t is relevant, or serious, or that other people's dislike is not fine: sick.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 05, 2013, 10:23:53 PM
People paid into Social Security. The government took the money from the people it is suppose to 'help,' in the first place.


Ida Mae Fuller paid roughly $25 and collected roughly $23,000 in benefits over her lifetime. Paid for, indeed.

Some other rascals similarly made out like bandits.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 06, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP

Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.


mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

Apparentely Dude Fest and your average South Minneapolis house show are mostly Republican gatherings...as were the Occupy Wall Street protests!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 06, 2013, 02:14:28 AM
You know, because Rastafarians are definitely Republican, right?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on April 06, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
You know, because Rastafarians are definitely Republican, right?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/bob-marley-rises-from-grave-to-free-frat-boys-from,1808/


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 06, 2013, 10:05:47 AM

How about on the International boards? :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on April 06, 2013, 10:20:24 AM

Most of the land is owned by just a handful of people, and there's hardly any public land left.
How does that make it feudalism?

Because it's unfair to the people.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 06, 2013, 10:25:17 AM
The pony cancer is absurd, ignorant, and posting about it is bad posting. It belongs here. Ramifications in relation to the ponymeat scandal might arguably belong on the international boards, but only until any American meatpacker gets his first inspection since WWII.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 06, 2013, 12:18:30 PM
Can AdamObawesome's sig be counted as ignorance? Because it makes the screen three feet wide, and to read a sentence here, I have to scroll sideways.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 06, 2013, 01:12:49 PM
Can AdamObawesome's sig be counted as ignorance? Because it makes the screen three feet wide, and to read a sentence here, I have to scroll sideways.

I just sent him a PM asking him to make his sig pic smaller or take it down. I once had one that was too big, and a poster told me to take the f'ing thing down.  I complied because he was right. It was inconsiderate. Do you like the size of the one that I currently have?  :)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 06, 2013, 01:13:12 PM
It barely stretches the screen for me. ???

To me, the two images appear on top of each other. Only a single image over 600 pixels will stretch the screen instead. (And god, did I have to reduce the two blackfooted kitteh images so that they appear next to each other!)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MaxQue on April 06, 2013, 02:58:24 PM

Quote from: Lauren Faust


For some reason, I read that a Laurent Furst and wondered why a French MP commented on that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on April 08, 2013, 11:24:47 PM
A large fraction of the SSM opponents in Congress support civil unions, and have done so for years.  You're welcome to start a brand new map about that, but integrating it into the existing map doesn't make much sense.


Civil unions are a compromise.

Yes, a 3/5ths compromise.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: LeBron on April 09, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.

At least he doesn't spam political forums with completely off-the-mark symbolism and claim that the show is better than US presidents.
I never said that the show was better than President Clinton. I was comparing both of them SOLELY off of merit and morals. And obviously when you compare Rainbow Dash to Clinton, RD takes the cake. Being gay/attracted to other female ponies (which has been proven!) is from today's day in age better than adultery when compared to the federal morals of it. It's a sign of basic social justice to clearly accept gays & lesbians more than adulterers.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 09, 2013, 08:21:14 AM
Absolutely no one is allowed to call the way I was raised wrong or obsolete.  No one is ever allowed to say that.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 09, 2013, 08:25:58 AM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.

At least he doesn't spam political forums with completely off-the-mark symbolism and claim that the show is better than US presidents.
I never said that the show was better than President Clinton. I was comparing both of them SOLELY off of merit and morals. And obviously when you compare Rainbow Dash to Clinton, RD takes the cake. Being gay/attracted to other female ponies (which has been proven!) is from today's day in age better than adultery when compared to the federal morals of it. It's a sign of basic social justice to clearly accept gays & lesbians more than adulterers.

Stop. You're just digging yourself deeper.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 09, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
Well, it's official: speaking as a casual MLP fan, I have officially found the worst brony in the entire fandom.

That is saying a lot.

I actually know a guy who's attracted to it.

As in, he's even drawn pornography of it.

At least he doesn't spam political forums with completely off-the-mark symbolism and claim that the show is better than US presidents.
I never said that the show was better than President Clinton. I was comparing both of them SOLELY off of merit and morals. And obviously when you compare Rainbow Dash to Clinton, RD takes the cake. Being gay/attracted to other female ponies (which has been proven!) is from today's day in age better than adultery when compared to the federal morals of it. It's a sign of basic social justice to clearly accept gays & lesbians more than adulterers.
What. The. ****.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 09, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
At least he doesn't spam political forums with completely off-the-mark symbolism and claim that the show is better than US presidents.

I enjoy our friend Wyodon's obsession with this point. What a random thing to be upset about.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 09, 2013, 01:51:57 PM
What are 'federal morals'?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on April 09, 2013, 03:58:53 PM
     I'm tempted to start reading political messages into some of the shows that I watch and plugging them indiscriminately, though I won't since it would be completely pointless.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 09, 2013, 04:06:22 PM
I sometimes do that with theological messages, but only if the show actually does have some manner of religious or occult subtext.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 09, 2013, 04:09:05 PM
I sometimes do that with theological messages, but only if the show actually does have some manner of religious or occult subtext.

Rarity is definitely a JAP.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 09, 2013, 05:27:02 PM
Has an absurd post ever led to 2 and a half pages of discussion before?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 09, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
The Atlas forum reaches new depths of absurd nonsense...

Instead of defaming the thread about her death with hatred, I would like to memorialize her legacy. She was a lady, a strong one. She stood for liberty at a time when Britain didn't want it. She stood for western progress when her opposition pushed for Marxism. She stood against the Euro before everyone else could tell it was a disaster. She stood against the EU before everyone could tel it was a disaster. She stood for individual freedom when others wanted state control. She stood for an ideology when others wanted a popularity contest. Britons can piss on her grave all they want while their country faces disaster. You think she cares? She did what she knew was right, and she knows that if Britain takes the opposite track toward socialism/communism, they'll come crawling back to capitalism when it fails. She's re-united with the Gipper and the Pope now, three people who divided nations because they STOOD FOR SOMETHING. They believed in a cause and fought for it to the end, and if that divides people, oh, well. It is better than standing back and giving in to what is popular.

R.I.P. Maggie Thatcher; you'll be missed by freedom-lovers forever, and those who hate freedom? They'll come around.

()


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Supersonic on April 09, 2013, 07:21:37 PM
The Atlas forum reaches new depths of absurd nonsense...

Instead of defaming the thread about her death with hatred, I would like to memorialize her legacy. She was a lady, a strong one. She stood for liberty at a time when Britain didn't want it. She stood for western progress when her opposition pushed for Marxism. She stood against the Euro before everyone else could tell it was a disaster. She stood against the EU before everyone could tel it was a disaster. She stood for individual freedom when others wanted state control. She stood for an ideology when others wanted a popularity contest. Britons can piss on her grave all they want while their country faces disaster. You think she cares? She did what she knew was right, and she knows that if Britain takes the opposite track toward socialism/communism, they'll come crawling back to capitalism when it fails. She's re-united with the Gipper and the Pope now, three people who divided nations because they STOOD FOR SOMETHING. They believed in a cause and fought for it to the end, and if that divides people, oh, well. It is better than standing back and giving in to what is popular.

R.I.P. Maggie Thatcher; you'll be missed by freedom-lovers forever, and those who hate freedom? They'll come around.

()

I don't see why this belongs here at all.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 09, 2013, 07:54:14 PM
Such a Naso-esque post.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 09, 2013, 09:20:28 PM

Morals explicitly granted to the federal government by the Constitution, as opposed to state morals.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 09, 2013, 09:56:07 PM


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 09, 2013, 11:31:37 PM
The Atlas forum reaches new depths of absurd nonsense...

Instead of defaming the thread about her death with hatred, I would like to memorialize her legacy. She was a lady, a strong one. She stood for liberty at a time when Britain didn't want it. She stood for western progress when her opposition pushed for Marxism. She stood against the Euro before everyone else could tell it was a disaster. She stood against the EU before everyone could tel it was a disaster. She stood for individual freedom when others wanted state control. She stood for an ideology when others wanted a popularity contest. Britons can piss on her grave all they want while their country faces disaster. You think she cares? She did what she knew was right, and she knows that if Britain takes the opposite track toward socialism/communism, they'll come crawling back to capitalism when it fails. She's re-united with the Gipper and the Pope now, three people who divided nations because they STOOD FOR SOMETHING. They believed in a cause and fought for it to the end, and if that divides people, oh, well. It is better than standing back and giving in to what is popular.

R.I.P. Maggie Thatcher; you'll be missed by freedom-lovers forever, and those who hate freedom? They'll come around.

()

I don't see why this belongs here at all.

"She stood for liberty at a time when Britain didn't want it. She stood for western progress when her opposition pushed for Marxism." This is obviously ridiculous.

"Britons can piss on her grave all they want while their country faces disaster. You think she cares?" Probably not, because the disaster is mostly a result of her policies.

"R.I.P. Maggie Thatcher; you'll be missed by freedom-lovers forever, and those who hate freedom? They'll come around." Unironically calling your opponents freedom-haters lol


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on April 10, 2013, 12:37:14 AM

I have no idea but it's going in my sig


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 10, 2013, 02:08:09 AM

FF


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on April 10, 2013, 02:17:04 AM

He's being sarcastic, that should go in the Comedy Goldmine. ;D


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2013, 11:50:24 AM

Dudefest is not just any "metal festival." It's a bunch of sweaty, half naked dudes bouncing all over each other

Which is totally not gay


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 10, 2013, 01:54:12 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2013, 01:57:01 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

I'm not much on defending Torie, since he's a big boy and such, but do you think he knew?  First I've heard of it and I read most everything here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 10, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

I'm not much on defending Torie, since he's a big boy and such, but do you think he knew?  First I've heard of it and I read most everything here.

As I said, it's not absurd or bad; it's just ignorant in the sense of 'indicating something that Torie doesn't know'.

Incidentally, I got the joke in that thread and was seemingly alone in that, so I'm a little miffed that it's locked, but it's not like it was a legit thread in the first place or anything.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

I'm not much on defending Torie, since he's a big boy and such, but do you think he knew?  First I've heard of it and I read most everything here.

As I said, it's not absurd or bad; it's just ignorant in the sense of 'indicating something that Torie doesn't know'.

Ok, gotcha.  Oh, by the way, you all can still vote in Dr. J's poll.....the thread is locked but voting isn't  :)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 10, 2013, 02:01:37 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

I'm not much on defending Torie, since he's a big boy and such, but do you think he knew?  First I've heard of it and I read most everything here.

As I said, it's not absurd or bad; it's just ignorant in the sense of 'indicating something that Torie doesn't know'.

Ok, gotcha.  Oh, by the way, you all can still vote in Dr. J's poll.....the thread is locked but voting isn't  :)

I stand by my write-in vote.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 10, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
drj is a she?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 10, 2013, 02:09:56 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 10, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
I feel for Torie.  I called politicus "bro" for about a month before I found out she was a girl.  Ugh.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 10, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 10, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.

Ouch!  I assume that you are referring to the plethora of hetero pussies and prudes around here, and not to us gorgeous homo macho hunks right? 


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 10, 2013, 02:35:50 PM
I think the correct pronoun for horses, ponies, pegasi is "it".


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 10, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
I feel for Torie.  I called politicus "bro" for about a month before I found out she was a girl.  Ugh.

To be fair, when you want to make it known you're a woman, it's a weird choice to have your username end with -us. :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 10, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.

Ouch!  I assume that you are referring to the plethora of hetero pussies and prudes around here, and not to us gorgeous homo macho hunks right? 

No, I'm referring to the fact that of the three female-identifying posters here, only one of them is biologically a woman.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 10, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
US Election Atlas Forum: Where a supermajority of our women have penises.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 10, 2013, 09:00:23 PM
Atlas has two biologically female regular posters, politicus and Sheilak5.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 10, 2013, 09:39:35 PM
[1] #45 Christopher James Christie, Republican, 54 years old, from New Jersey
The economy took a turn for a worse in Obama's second term as the national debt hit 20 million and tensions increased with North Korea and the Islamist nations. President Obama still manages to leave office with a 43% approval rating. Republican candidate Chris Christie campaigns that the Obama administration failed at its goals of improving the economy and that government spending such as Obamacare needs to be cut in order for the economy to prosper. Christie also supported more interventionalist foriegn policies opposed to Obama. Although 2016 was a close race, Christie in the end thanks to his campaign that attacked his predecessor Obama and many of his opponent Cuomo's policies being close to those of Obama, and pick of popular senator Marco Rubio as his running mate, was able to win many key swing states such as Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania (as well as his home state of New Jersey) thus winning the election. He also managed to win 45% of the Hispanic vote thanks to his support for amnesty and chosing of Rubio. Early in his term, president Christie cut many government-run social programs causing the defecit to steadily decline. In 2018, Christie and the congress with a Republican majority in both houses passed a law to repeal Obamacare. The private sector and many businesses flourished under Christie's new economic plans. Christie also drove the United States to be energy independent and supported the continuation of the Keystone Pipeline that created thousands of new jobs and was delayed by his predecessor Obama.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 10, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.

Ouch!  I assume that you are referring to the plethora of hetero pussies and prudes around here, and not to us gorgeous homo macho hunks right? 

No, I'm referring to the fact that of the three female-identifying posters here, only one of them is biologically a woman.

I'm probably going to start an argument with this (issues of language and so-called "political correctness" tend to evoke very strong emotions for some reason), but the term you all are looking for is "cisgender" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender), not "biological". "cis-" being the latin prefix roughly opposite to "trans", as in cis-trans isomerism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism) in chemistry or the Roman provinces of Cisalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisalpine_Gaul) and Transalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallia_Narbonensis).


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MaxQue on April 10, 2013, 10:38:21 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.

Ouch!  I assume that you are referring to the plethora of hetero pussies and prudes around here, and not to us gorgeous homo macho hunks right? 

No, I'm referring to the fact that of the three female-identifying posters here, only one of them is biologically a woman.

I'm probably going to start an argument with this (issues of language and so-called "political correctness" tend to evoke very strong emotions for some reason), but the term you all are looking for is "cisgender" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender), not "biological". "cis-" being the latin prefix roughly opposite to "trans", as in cis-trans isomerism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism) in chemistry or the Roman provinces of Cisalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisalpine_Gaul) and Transalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallia_Narbonensis).

So, most people here are cisgender, if I understand well?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 10, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
The post where Torie consistently refers to drj101 with male pronouns (in Individual Politics) is objectively ignorant, even if not absurd or bad as such.

Females are allowed to post on this site?  Who knew?

Well, they're not allowed to be biological females, but yeah.

Ouch!  I assume that you are referring to the plethora of hetero pussies and prudes around here, and not to us gorgeous homo macho hunks right?  

No, I'm referring to the fact that of the three female-identifying posters here, only one of them is biologically a woman.

I'm probably going to start an argument with this (issues of language and so-called "political correctness" tend to evoke very strong emotions for some reason), but the term you all are looking for is "cisgender" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender), not "biological". "cis-" being the latin prefix roughly opposite to "trans", as in cis-trans isomerism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism) in chemistry or the Roman provinces of Cisalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisalpine_Gaul) and Transalpine Gaul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallia_Narbonensis).

So, most people here are cisgender, if I understand well?

Yes, the vast majority of people both here and IRL are cisgender. If you identify with the gender you were designated at birth, than you are cisgender, basically.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 10, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
Cisgender, I like this word. Any intelligent use of Latin in a language is commendable.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 11, 2013, 08:05:49 AM
Oklahoma City is one of the most beautiful cities in the world.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TNF on April 11, 2013, 09:29:44 AM
[1] #45 Christopher James Christie, Republican, 54 years old, from New Jersey
The economy took a turn for a worse in Obama's second term as the national debt hit 20 million and tensions increased with North Korea and the Islamist nations. President Obama still manages to leave office with a 43% approval rating. Republican candidate Chris Christie campaigns that the Obama administration failed at its goals of improving the economy and that government spending such as Obamacare needs to be cut in order for the economy to prosper. Christie also supported more interventionalist foriegn policies opposed to Obama. Although 2016 was a close race, Christie in the end thanks to his campaign that attacked his predecessor Obama and many of his opponent Cuomo's policies being close to those of Obama, and pick of popular senator Marco Rubio as his running mate, was able to win many key swing states such as Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania (as well as his home state of New Jersey) thus winning the election. He also managed to win 45% of the Hispanic vote thanks to his support for amnesty and chosing of Rubio. Early in his term, president Christie cut many government-run social programs causing the defecit to steadily decline. In 2018, Christie and the congress with a Republican majority in both houses passed a law to repeal Obamacare. The private sector and many businesses flourished under Christie's new economic plans. Christie also drove the United States to be energy independent and supported the continuation of the Keystone Pipeline that created thousands of new jobs and was delayed by his predecessor Obama.

my sides


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 11, 2013, 02:35:08 PM
The economy took a turn for a worse in Obama's second term as the national debt hit 20 million and tensions increased with North Korea and the Islamist nations. President Obama still manages to leave office with a 43% approval rating. Although 2016 was a close race, Christie in the end thanks to his campaign that attacked his predecessor Obama and many of his opponent Cuomo's policies being close to those of Obama, and pick of popular senator Marco Rubio as his running mate, was able to win many key swing states such as Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania (as well as his home state of New Jersey) thus winning the election. He also managed to win 45% of the Hispanic vote thanks to his support for amnesty and chosing of Rubio.

Picked out some of the gems.

It appears we have our first poster born under Obama.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 11, 2013, 07:27:03 PM
Are we now debating the legality of fornication and witchcraft? Cause that's pretty damn hilarious. I'm not even sure what witchcraft is. Shall we start burning cat ladies who like to take herbal supplements?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 11, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
Are we now debating the legality of fornication and witchcraft? Cause that's pretty damn hilarious. I'm not even sure what witchcraft is. Shall we start burning cat ladies who like to take herbal supplements?

What the hell was that even supposed to be. ???

He thinks any conversation about what the Bible really says about an issue is a debate regarding its legality.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 12, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
he supports gun control.

and sadly, most democrats stopped supporting that circa 1988.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 12, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
The mail bomb plot was foiled, thank God. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0412/Package-for-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-posed-a-serious-threat-authorities-say)
Unfortunately all the villains survive attempts at assassination(like the lady in your signature), but all the freedom fighters die. Such is life.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 12, 2013, 08:46:29 PM
The mail bomb plot was foiled, thank God. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0412/Package-for-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-posed-a-serious-threat-authorities-say)
Unfortunately all the villains survive attempts at assassination(like the lady in your signature), but all the freedom fighters die. Such is life.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 12, 2013, 09:08:19 PM
The mail bomb plot was foiled, thank God. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0412/Package-for-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-posed-a-serious-threat-authorities-say)
Unfortunately all the villains survive attempts at assassination(like the lady in your signature), but all the freedom fighters die. Such is life.

I found Vosem's response even worse, although much funnier:

The mail bomb plot was foiled, thank God. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2013/0412/Package-for-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-posed-a-serious-threat-authorities-say)
Unfortunately all the villains survive attempts at assassination(like the lady in your signature), but all the freedom fighters die. Such is life.

Reagan and GWB both survived assassination attempts, while Stalin and Nicky II both killed by their opponents. Your analogy isn't accurate 100%


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 13, 2013, 08:47:37 AM
oh Vosem, you poor boy...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 13, 2013, 11:59:10 AM
And making a million dollars an hour shouldn't seem strange or repugnant -- it's what every person should strive for. I'm disappointed that for somebody out there it does.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 13, 2013, 12:09:26 PM
And making a million dollars an hour shouldn't seem strange or repugnant -- it's what every person should strive for. I'm disappointed that for somebody out there it does.

Good lord.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on April 14, 2013, 05:54:24 AM
And making a million dollars an hour shouldn't seem strange or repugnant -- it's what every person should strive for. I'm disappointed that for somebody out there it does.

Good lord.
Someone likes hyperinflation?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 14, 2013, 04:06:34 PM
Did this thread make it in yet? Because it's a strong contender:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172058.msg3691509#msg3691509


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 14, 2013, 08:20:21 PM
It would be better if opebo stopped posting in it.


...but then again so would every other thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on April 14, 2013, 09:36:29 PM
And making a million dollars an hour shouldn't seem strange or repugnant -- it's what every person should strive for. I'm disappointed that for somebody out there it does.

Good lord.
Someone likes hyperinflation?

Strive for ≠ achieve


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 14, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
And making a million dollars an hour shouldn't seem strange or repugnant -- it's what every person should strive for. I'm disappointed that for somebody out there it does.

Good lord.
Someone likes hyperinflation?

Strive for ≠ achieve

Someone likes inequality for inequality's sake?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 15, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
Two terrible posts in reference to the Boston attack:


You don't think this is North Korea related....


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 15, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Sanchez's stuff in the Boston thread.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 15, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
Sanchez's stuff in the Boston thread.

Sikh terrorists bombed a Canadian airplane once. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) All I did is float the idea that this could be related to Ireland, which despite being at peace for decades now, still has lingering tensions. It takes only one nutjob with a grudge to act on them.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Hash on April 15, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
Sanchez's stuff in the Boston thread.

Sikh terrorists bombed a Canadian airplane once. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) All I did is float the idea that this could be related to Ireland, which despite being at peace for decades now, still has lingering tensions. It takes only one nutjob with a grudge to act on them.

Air India is a Canadian airline now?

Please direct all your future commentary to the deluge now. It saves us the trouble of posting your crap into the thread ourselves.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 15, 2013, 04:52:33 PM
Sanchez's stuff in the Boston thread.

Sikh terrorists bombed a Canadian airplane once. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) All I did is float the idea that this could be related to Ireland, which despite being at peace for decades now, still has lingering tensions. It takes only one nutjob with a grudge to act on them.

Air India is a Canadian airline now?

Please direct all your future commentary to the deluge now. It saves us the trouble of posting your crap into the thread ourselves.
Your aggressive tone is not needed. What I said was a legitimate argument, as is any suspecting of Islamic, Christian fundie, Anarchists, Tea Party, or Leftists motivations behind it. The flight was packed with Canadians, it was destined for Canada, and as the Paul Martin himself said "it was a Canadian tragedy." So get over yourself, your acting like I said something completely different than what was said.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 15, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 15, 2013, 05:14:58 PM
It takes a special kind of creature to acknowledge that someone called out both sides...then say it was to "express outrage" with one side...


Here's what I felt the need to share that didn't meet your immediate approval, brittain: left wingers calling it a "far right wing militia" attack and right wingers insisting it's an Islamist attack. Now it's not even good enough for me to openly criticize both sides.

We're here talking about the attack and what happened and sharing news, and you come in to drop a stinking turd about "asshats" on "both sides" when that's not even what we're talking about. If you want to start a thread where this bombing is a chance for you to express outrage at left-wingers, kindly take it the f[inks] elsewhere.



Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 15, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. With the information the government had in 2003, the Iraq War was the right choice. It's easy to sit here in 2013 and complain.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 15, 2013, 07:59:05 PM
Anderson Cooper just said to be on the lookout for a black man with an accent.

Lot of detail there, CNN...

How?  It's night time!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 15, 2013, 10:50:27 PM
George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.

What? That is completely accurate.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on April 15, 2013, 11:17:14 PM
From now on, I'm putting all sarcasm FAILs right here where they belong

Or we could have dealt with the debt a little...

The American people rejected Al Gore's idea to pay off the debt instead of cutting taxes.
This is not true. Gore received a half million more votes than Jr Bush.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 16, 2013, 12:51:48 AM
George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.

What? That is completely accurate.

Implying that the War on Terror is not conservative.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on April 16, 2013, 02:22:48 AM
George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.

What? That is completely accurate.

Implying that the War on Terror is not conservative.

That depends how you define conservatism. Changing the concept of terror from being a crime which should be fought by police and intelligence services to a war was certainly a radical change and a break with tradition and moderation.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 16, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Well, I obviously meant "conservative" in the context of American politics. It is true, as you previously pointed out, that modern American conservatism has little to do with the historical conservative ideology.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 16, 2013, 05:41:15 AM
LOL it's metal. It's nothing but screeching intolerable noise.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 16, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
George Bush ran on a conservative foreign policy, but that changed come War on Terror.

What? That is completely accurate.

Implying that the War on Terror is not conservative.

It's not.  Good old-fashioned conservative policy in America is isolationism and ignoring what is going on overseas.  While Bush didn't run on that in 2000, he did walk it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 16, 2013, 02:41:57 PM
'progressives' in the us largely love guns.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 16, 2013, 04:12:21 PM

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 17, 2013, 07:17:08 PM
Overall I very much support gun rights more as part of my puritanical support for absolute right to private property (means of violence should be allowed for someone to protect their private property.)  On pure merits of this amendment as is I am mostly neutral about but I lean against it most based on the fact that I think it can be a part of a slippery slope toward a gun ban.  Of course ever after Obama raised taxes on 450K+ my view of the Obama regime now pretty much channels Mao Tse-Dong Thought "We should support whatever the enemy opposes and oppose whatever the enemy supports" (Mao 1939)  From that point of view I applaud this amendment's defeat.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on April 17, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Overall I very much support gun rights more as part of my puritanical support for absolute right to private property (means of violence should be allowed for someone to protect their private property.)  On pure merits of this amendment as is I am mostly neutral about but I lean against it most based on the fact that I think it can be a part of a slippery slope toward a gun ban.  Of course ever after Obama raised taxes on 450K+ my view of the Obama regime now pretty much channels Mao Tse-Dong Thought "We should support whatever the enemy opposes and oppose whatever the enemy supports" (Mao 1939)  From that point of view I applaud this amendment's defeat.

Dang it, I was about to post that. :P


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 17, 2013, 07:27:22 PM
Overall I very much support gun rights more as part of my puritanical support for absolute right to private property (means of violence should be allowed for someone to protect their private property.)  On pure merits of this amendment as is I am mostly neutral about but I lean against it most based on the fact that I think it can be a part of a slippery slope toward a gun ban.  Of course ever after Obama raised taxes on 450K+ my view of the Obama regime now pretty much channels Mao Tse-Dong Thought "We should support whatever the enemy opposes and oppose whatever the enemy supports" (Mao 1939)  From that point of view I applaud this amendment's defeat.

Dang it, I was about to post that. :P

Came to post that. Oh, libertarians...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 17, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
Overall I very much support gun rights more as part of my puritanical support for absolute right to private property (means of violence should be allowed for someone to protect their private property.)  On pure merits of this amendment as is I am mostly neutral about but I lean against it most based on the fact that I think it can be a part of a slippery slope toward a gun ban.  Of course ever after Obama raised taxes on 450K+ my view of the Obama regime now pretty much channels Mao Tse-Dong Thought "We should support whatever the enemy opposes and oppose whatever the enemy supports" (Mao 1939)  From that point of view I applaud this amendment's defeat.

Dang it, I was about to post that. :P

Came to post that. Oh, libertarians...

It's largely what McConnell already said. The Mao quote at least.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 17, 2013, 11:29:16 PM
...wow.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 17, 2013, 11:58:52 PM
Some really think the government is out to get you, as part and parcel of a plan to create a 1984 Orwellian world. With those, there can be no meaningful dialogue. It's their own little particular secular religion. The public square can only try to deal with reality, the testable stuff based on empirical data and experience - not hard wired leaps of faith.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 18, 2013, 12:06:01 AM
Nonpartisan redistricting can be enacted after the GOP uses gerrymandering for a century as punishment.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 18, 2013, 05:28:36 AM
That gun post made me sick to my stomach. It is unbelievable that people can actually think that way and not be institutionalized because of it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on April 18, 2013, 10:11:17 AM
Someone ought to inform that joker that Texas ain't that much of a better place to live than North Korea.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 18, 2013, 10:22:41 AM
Nonpartisan redistricting can be enacted after the GOP uses gerrymandering for a century as punishment.

It's really tempting to start engaging him again, but I know no good can come of it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Torie on April 18, 2013, 10:48:52 AM
Nonpartisan redistricting can be enacted after the GOP uses gerrymandering for a century as punishment.

It's really tempting to start engaging him again, but I know no good can come of it.

Fighting against personal sin is a lifelong endeavor.  Be brave!


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on April 18, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
I think the time for me to move to England is rapidly drawing near.

Moving to England over privacy issues.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 18, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
I think the time for me to move to England is rapidly drawing near.

Moving to England over privacy issues.

It's more of the sentiment, mate.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on April 18, 2013, 10:55:43 PM
I'd certainly rather live in Greece than Arizona..,


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 18, 2013, 11:02:06 PM

To be clear it is Vosem's posting of that post here that I find absurd, ignorant, and bad.  While depending upon what one considers important, one could prefer Arizona to Greece, the converse is certainly true.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 18, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that for white upper middle-class people (the main demographic on this forum), Greece is a pretty nice place to live in.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Insula Dei on April 19, 2013, 05:36:51 AM
Yeah, the weather is pretty pleasant, the food is nice, and the people by and large are quite pleasant. Greece comes pretty close to an ideal place to live if you've got some money.

Arizona on the other hand might conceivably have served the Tsars as a good substitute for Siberia should their imperial ventures not have stalled on the Wester shorelines of the American mainland.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: TNF on April 19, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
social security should at least be partially privatized.  that is a very progressive position. 

payroll taxes are regressive.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on April 19, 2013, 12:24:36 PM
I support this; the Flaming Lips are awful music.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RI on April 19, 2013, 12:46:24 PM

This isn't the place for posts you disagree with...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 19, 2013, 02:33:30 PM

Right, it's a place for absurd posts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 19, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
The audit will take a month, BTW. Shudder to think what the regime will do over that time.

If the opposition wants to protest, they can. But they killed 7 people the other day, that's not pacific. If that happened anywhere in Europe, protest would be restrained as well.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on April 19, 2013, 02:44:07 PM

Its not absurd to say that something generally considered excellent is awful, its just a minority opinion. Even "Shakespeare is awful" is not an absurd statement.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on April 19, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Barack Obama ‏@BarackObama 6 Nov
This happened because of you. Thank you.
 Retweeted by Jahar


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on April 19, 2013, 06:12:58 PM
I'm pretty sure that for white upper middle-class people (the main demographic on this forum), Greece is a pretty nice place to live in.

But Franzl's post was on a thread about working conditions in Greece, so he seemed to be implying that the Greek economy/working conditions in Greece/and such was more desirable than Arizona's (which is pretty absurd). Obviously preferring Greek weather to Arizona's is fine (stating the reverse might just be eligible for inclusion in this thread :P ), but that wasn't the context of the post.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on April 19, 2013, 06:27:14 PM
I'm pretty sure that for white upper middle-class people (the main demographic on this forum), Greece is a pretty nice place to live in.

But Franzl's post was on a thread about working conditions in Greece, so he seemed to be implying that the Greek economy/working conditions in Greece/and such was more desirable than Arizona's (which is pretty absurd). Obviously preferring Greek weather to Arizona's is fine (stating the reverse might just be eligible for inclusion in this thread :P ), but that wasn't the context of the post.

When did I say or imply anything about economics? Merely that I prefer Greece to Arizona and would feel more comfortable there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Vosem on April 19, 2013, 07:33:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that for white upper middle-class people (the main demographic on this forum), Greece is a pretty nice place to live in.

But Franzl's post was on a thread about working conditions in Greece, so he seemed to be implying that the Greek economy/working conditions in Greece/and such was more desirable than Arizona's (which is pretty absurd). Obviously preferring Greek weather to Arizona's is fine (stating the reverse might just be eligible for inclusion in this thread :P ), but that wasn't the context of the post.

When did I say or imply anything about economics? Merely that I prefer Greece to Arizona and would feel more comfortable there.

Well, that's what the thread was about; any comment in it was in the context of the economic situation in Greece.

You preferring Greece over Arizona still strikes me as a very odd position -- Germans aren't exactly in vogue there, first of all, and second of all you (I think) don't speak Greek but do speak English. But to each his own.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 20, 2013, 03:02:56 PM
I disagree completely. Also, if someone put themselves in harm's way, that's on that person. Civil liberties of the population should never be suspended. Ever. Hoping people do not abuse power is ridiculous. The cops were out for revenge over the university cop that was killed. It had nothing to do with the people of Boston.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 20, 2013, 03:35:26 PM
I disagree completely. Also, if someone put themselves in harm's way, that's on that person. Civil liberties of the population should never be suspended. Ever. Hoping people do not abuse power is ridiculous. The cops were out for revenge over the university cop that was killed. It had nothing to do with the people of Boston.

wat


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 20, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
Remember this when it happens.

I predict a mass exodus of NDP MPs from Quebec to the Liberals under Trudeau, knowing they will not be able to win reelection as NDP candidates in Quebec.

Mark my words.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Badger on April 20, 2013, 04:01:26 PM
I disagree completely. Also, if someone put themselves in harm's way, that's on that person. Civil liberties of the population should never be suspended. Ever. Hoping people do not abuse power is ridiculous. The cops were out for revenge over the university cop that was killed. It had nothing to do with the people of Boston.

wat

Yeah, that post is a motherload vein of asinine even by deluge standards.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 20, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Sometimes people are bad at the courtship thing. It goes both ways. No need to make yourself into a victim. I once had a coworker corner me and start rubbing her butt all over me. Take it as a compliment and move on. No need to get your panties all wadded. There are people with real problems out there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Donerail on April 20, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Sanchez's stuff in the Boston thread.

Sikh terrorists bombed a Canadian airplane once. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) All I did is float the idea that this could be related to Ireland, which despite being at peace for decades now, still has lingering tensions. It takes only one nutjob with a grudge to act on them.

Y'know, I thought your posts were awful then, but Chechnya wasn't exactly the first place I'd expect, so N. Ireland doesn't seem all that far-fetched now. Consider this un-deluged.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 21, 2013, 08:41:42 AM
Sometimes people are bad at the courtship thing. It goes both ways. No need to make yourself into a victim. I once had a coworker corner me and start rubbing her butt all over me. Take it as a compliment and move on. No need to get your panties all wadded. There are people with real problems out there.

All of memphis's posts about gender issues go here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 21, 2013, 11:48:06 AM
LBJ by far.  The only reason why he isn't up there with FDR is Vietnam.

Which is why he never ran for a second term.  He doesn't really qualify for this poll since he never even ran for a second term in 1968 despite being eligible to do so.

That is just being picky.  He was essentially co-president from 1961-1963.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 21, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
I disagree completely. Also, if someone put themselves in harm's way, that's on that person. Civil liberties of the population should never be suspended. Ever. Hoping people do not abuse power is ridiculous. The cops were out for revenge over the university cop that was killed. It had nothing to do with the people of Boston.

wat

Dear God, that brain-dead troglodyte is posting again? I had assumed that he'd accidentally electrocuted himself in the bathtub or something.

That guy kind of comes and goes, he's been on and off since 2008 when I remember him saying things like that if Obama won there'd be a total economic collapse and new Great Depression with >20% unemployment, all with an attitude and general air of "and if you disagree with me you're clearly just another media-brainwashed Obamabot."


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on April 21, 2013, 08:33:40 PM
I read a book once that mentioned how Ronald McDonald has been portrayed as a "basketball-playing hipster" in some McDonald's advertising, and ever since I have associated the term "hipster" with Ronald McDonald, who has creeped me out ever since I was a young child.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on April 21, 2013, 09:51:36 PM
I read a book once that mentioned how Ronald McDonald has been portrayed as a "basketball-playing hipster" in some McDonald's advertising, and ever since I have associated the term "hipster" with Ronald McDonald, who has creeped me out ever since I was a young child.

To be fair, it's totally understandable to find Ronald McDonald creepy.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on April 22, 2013, 12:03:02 AM
Oldiesfreak has his own thread, put that quote there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 22, 2013, 12:57:02 AM
Speaking of Zarn, I just found this old gem of his that predates the Deluge but unquestionably belongs in it:

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 22, 2013, 01:32:55 AM
Hahah, you even replied to that post by wondering why we didn't have a Deluge-like thread.

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

How can people say such stupid things with such confidence?

Kind of makes you wish there was a Stupidity Goldmine doesn't it? There's no other place comments like that can properly belong.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 22, 2013, 05:15:45 AM
Speaking of Zarn, I just found this old gem of his that predates the Deluge but unquestionably belongs in it:

The bigger the government, the more left-wing it is.

Definitely not uncharacteristic of someone like him to say.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 22, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
Let's keep the beatdown on Zarn continuing:

Rand Paul

Rubio is a silly answer. He is a 'moderate.'

something like this if hillary were to expose rand paul's crazy economics.

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Fixed. Isn't 3 years out stuff fun?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on April 22, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
I rather enjoy being lectured about sex by people who have zero experience with it. I feel like I'm at the Vatican.

Do you really think the people in Vatican have no idea about sex? Lulz.
Not with adults anyhow. Taking advantage of children is a different issue completely. Adult women have their own agency and sexual awareness, despite what all the asexual trans victimologists want so badly to believe.

This post is horrible. I'm speechless.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 22, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
I rather enjoy being lectured about sex by people who have zero experience with it. I feel like I'm at the Vatican.

Do you really think the people in Vatican have no idea about sex? Lulz.
Not with adults anyhow. Taking advantage of children is a different issue completely. Adult women have their own agency and sexual awareness, despite what all the asexual trans victimologists want so badly to believe.

This post is horrible. I'm speechless.

I reacted the only way I could react.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 22, 2013, 01:59:47 PM
Memphis once again gives us a glimpse into his exceedingly narrow worldview.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 22, 2013, 05:21:23 PM
memphis is a Great Person.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 22, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
I guess this is the point when Memphis crossed the Absurdity Line which separates posters which can legitimately spur outrage/disbelief from those who deserve nothing but constant ridicule.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 22, 2013, 09:17:11 PM
All ad hominems. Zero rebuttal. I'm ever so surprised ::)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 22, 2013, 09:21:26 PM
Memphis, do you think if a woman goes outside dressed in a "slutty" outfit and gets raped that it is her fault for dressing that way?
I would not blame a victim of rape. Ever. At the same time, we all live in an imperfect world and need to be mindful of that fact. I wouldn't leave my front door wide open lest somebody loot my modest possessions. It wouldn't be my fault somebody stole my stuff, but it would have been wiser to be more conscious of the risks out there in the world.

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Oh wait, my bad. You actually crossed the line twice. Utter disgust is now the only appropriate reaction.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 22, 2013, 09:33:40 PM
All ad hominems. Zero rebuttal. I'm ever so surprised ::)

Ad hominems are the rebuttal, since the way your awful personal character shines through bright as any diamond is what's absurd, ignorant, and bad about your posts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 22, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
Don't be too hard on memphis.  I thought the double entendres involved in leaving the front door open to one's modest possessions were clever at least.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2013, 10:57:44 AM
All ad hominems. Zero rebuttal. I'm ever so surprised ::)

Ad hominems are the rebuttal, since the way your awful personal character shines through bright as any diamond is what's absurd, ignorant, and bad about your posts.
You have nothing to stand on except a personal dislike for me? Ok, whatever makes you feel better about yourself and your ideas. I won't be losing any sleep over it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on April 23, 2013, 11:16:49 AM
I'm actually fairly popular with women who don't have penises. They're a much friendlier and relaxed bunch than the ones that do. Most of them don't needlessly view their lives through the constant prism of oppression.

Jesus Christ. I doubt what the guy says about his popularity among women. However, do his sentences deserve infraction points or something? This is becoming more and more awful. Narrow-minded is not enough, there aren't words in my dictionary to describe the way I feel when I read his atrocities.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on April 23, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
You poor, tortured souls!  I can't imagine what hell you all must be going through in reading his posts!  :'(


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on April 23, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
You can trivialize his insults if you suffer a severe lack of empathy. In other case, you should understand people who can't stand some of his silly attacks on people different from him. Respect, guy. It's simple, it's easy.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
I'm actually fairly popular with women who don't have penises. They're a much friendlier and relaxed bunch than the ones that do. Most of them don't needlessly view their lives through the constant prism of oppression.

Jesus Christ. I doubt what the guy says about his popularity among women.
Would you care for some photographic evidence? Not claiming to be Master of the Universe with the ladies, but girls (without penises) can be pretty fun. They're all individuals of course, but, as I said far frindlier than the ones with penises.

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Oh Noez, having a beer with this one. I must be a sexual predator.

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Note, this one can and will drink you under the table. She's getting married in a few months. Lucky guy.

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She's English. Not a common thing for a girl in Memphis. Also has a million brothers and sisters.

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Girl on left is crazy talented artist. Jewelry, drawing, etching, you name it. Also big into heavy metal. One on right is lawyer and runs marathons. Wish I had half her drive in life.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 23, 2013, 11:53:18 AM
what just happened


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: bgwah on April 23, 2013, 12:03:49 PM
Those look like old photos


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Velasco on April 23, 2013, 12:10:13 PM
I'm actually fairly popular with women who don't have penises. They're a much friendlier and relaxed bunch than the ones that do. Most of them don't needlessly view their lives through the constant prism of oppression.

Jesus Christ. I doubt what the guy says about his popularity among women.
Would you care for some photographic evidence? Not claiming to be Master of the Universe with the ladies, but girls (without penises) can be pretty fun. They're all individuals of course, but, as I said far frindlier than the ones with penises.

See, memphis, I don't give a f*** for anybody's sexual preferences, speaking softly. It's nice, you know some women and even you have some female friends to take photos smiling when you go out on weekend. It's not so exceptional, most of people have social life. Now then, what is what you didn't deal with respect? I haven't accused you of being a sexual predator, simply you have some horrific points of view and, besides, you insist with the penises. Do they obsess you? Show some respect if you want to be well treated or considered by others. What prove your pics? There is sufficient literature on cases of male chauvinist abusers with a good social life. Certainly I don't accuse you of being one of those; simply your photos don't impress me.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 23, 2013, 12:12:18 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: traininthedistance on April 23, 2013, 12:30:07 PM
Ah, posting directly into the Deluge.  Good show, good show.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Sol on April 23, 2013, 12:47:29 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.
Facebook =/= all of this forum.

Most people expect that their Facebook photos will stay within their circle. (Of course the photos  don't stay there, but should you really spread them around?)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 23, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
Ah, posting directly into the Deluge.  Good show, good show.

No matter how awful the posts in question are, this kind of statement is obtuse and juvenile.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 23, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
memphis, quite apart from your usual horrible comments about trans women, the fact that you're looking at this through a rubric of 'fun' versus 'uptight' or some approximately equivalent adjective speaks volumes. Volumes.

'I have nothing to stand on except a personal dislike for you' isn't actually what that post meant, but whatever.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 23, 2013, 02:33:06 PM
So by that logic, this picture proves that Mitt Romney does not hate Obama

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Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2013, 03:35:50 PM
So by that logic, this picture proves that Mitt Romney does not hate Obama

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1. I do not know that Romney does in fact hate Obama. That word has a very specific and intense meaning that you may want to look into. I can assure you that I do not hate any of the women in the photos. They are some of my closest friends.
2. I can also assure you that none of the pics I posted were phony theatrics created by the coersions of politics. Do you think any of these young ladies was trying to impress the public by having their picture taken with me while pretending to have a good time? I assure you I am not that popular. Instead, they were spontaneous celebrations of youthful vibrancy, something I think many posters could use a little more of. The first and fourth were at house parties, much to Naso's horror, I'm sure. The second and third were at bars.
3. And for the map geeks, the first one was taken in a strongly Republican precinct, while the final three are all in Democratic strongholds, though one could probably surmise as much by the ambiance.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on April 23, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
Dear Lord...

Saying Islamism = Nazism is hyperbole, but not without a core of truth (totalitarian ideology + antisemitism, women = breeding machines, modernity is degenerated, longing for a past that never where etc.)

Saying Islam = Nazism is mindboglingly stupid and insulting.

Surprised to see you putting this here. Did you think it over, or was it a gut feeling?

I think I was pretty balanced on that one, saying it was hyperbole, but with a core of truth. There are obviously clear differences, but Islamism in its radical version (not talking Erdogan and moderates here) has a core that is not that far from some of the elements in Nazism, which also had a pseudo-religious, mythological element + they share a number of values with fascism.

I consider radical Islamism an ideology detached from genuine Islam. Basically an abuse of the religion to create a totalitarian ideology, the fascist abuse of patriotism and national pride is related.

What is it specifically that you find absurd or ignnorant?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 23, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
If fascism is palingenetic ultranationalism, then at least a few strands of radical thought in Islam could be described as palingenetic ultrareligiosity. I myself wouldn't make the comparison and would caution against it for a whole host of reasons (the concept of 'Islamofascism', as if the content of the belief systems was comparable in either a theoretical or a historical sense, is bizarre, wrongheaded, and dangerous, and I think politicus's post veered dangerously close to that without necessarily in fact diving in), but I don't think it's prima facie absurd.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 23, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
Screw this one by not reading carefully, my bad.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Bacon King on April 23, 2013, 06:08:35 PM

Not getting into this debate but bro be careful with the pee stains


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 23, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
LOL


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 23, 2013, 07:00:56 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.
Facebook =/= all of this forum.

Most people expect that their Facebook photos will stay within their circle. (Of course the photos  don't stay there, but should you really spread them around?)

Yea pretty much. When I put photos on facebook I certainly don't expect them to end up on an internet forum unless I put them there.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 23, 2013, 07:09:36 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.
Facebook =/= all of this forum.

Most people expect that their Facebook photos will stay within their circle. (Of course the photos  don't stay there, but should you really spread them around?)

Yea pretty much. When I put photos on facebook I certainly don't expect them to end up on an internet forum unless I put them there.
Well, please let me welcome you to reality. What goes on facebook does not stay on facebook. Don't like it? Don't go on facebook.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 23, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.
Facebook =/= all of this forum.

Most people expect that their Facebook photos will stay within their circle. (Of course the photos  don't stay there, but should you really spread them around?)

Yea pretty much. When I put photos on facebook I certainly don't expect them to end up on an internet forum unless I put them there.
Well, please let me welcome you to reality. What goes on facebook does not stay on facebook. Don't like it? Don't go on facebook.

I don't think it's something one should enable.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on April 23, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
Okay this is going too far.

FF; the forum has overreacted massively, and Wyodon calling him a "prick" is so over the line.

There are few other words I can use to describe a misogynist; one who, I would remind you, would probably like to see you hanged in the town square for having a blue avatar.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on April 23, 2013, 07:50:05 PM
This thread has turned into quite the deluge of absurd, ignorant, and bad posts.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on April 23, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
King raises a valuable point: Is pointless arguing and bickering encouraged in the Deluge? I know we don't allow it in the Comedy Goldmine or the Good Post Gallery, but it seems to make more sense here, since we are getting people to post their bad posts directly into the Deluge. Hm...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: King on April 23, 2013, 08:17:58 PM
King raises a valuable point: Is pointless arguing and bickering encouraged in the Deluge? I know we don't allow it in the Comedy Goldmine or the Good Post Gallery, but it seems to make more sense here, since we are getting people to post their bad posts directly into the Deluge. Hm...

I say no.  These threads are supposed to be highlight reels.  Only the most absurd, ignorant, and worst moments.  There's too many clips of passing the ball to setup the play with convos here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 23, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
I tend to agree. People defending their absurdity, ignorance, and bad posts qualifies as absurdity, ignorance, and bad posts and cuts out the middleman alerting us to them.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 23, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
I sure hope not.  That's the last thing America needs.  I'm afraid an atheist president would advocate for getting rid of all Christian symbols from the country, such as the Nativity or the Cross, or the Ten Commandments and while he wouldn't shut churches down, he would actually discourage going to church.  He would probably take prayer out of the beginning of each Congressional session.

The day America has an atheist president is the day it begins its downfall.

That said, I don't think it will ever happen.  I think Christ will be coming back to earth very soon and if He tarries, He won't allow an atheist president.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 23, 2013, 09:45:27 PM
There's nothing better than a good ol' Bushie quote to bring us back on topic. ;)


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 23, 2013, 10:09:30 PM
I've always felt uncomfortable about forum members posting photos of non-member friends.
Why? These pics are not of anything illegal or embarassing and are all on facebook anyway. They're not internet virgins.
Facebook =/= all of this forum.

Most people expect that their Facebook photos will stay within their circle. (Of course the photos  don't stay there, but should you really spread them around?)

Yea pretty much. When I put photos on facebook I certainly don't expect them to end up on an internet forum unless I put them there.
Well, please let me welcome you to reality. What goes on facebook does not stay on facebook. Don't like it? Don't go on facebook.

I don't think it's something one should enable.

And yet, it makes perfect sense that he would hold this view.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Napoleon on April 24, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
Inouye is not a god.

I am a Schatz supporter. Hanabusa reminds me of Ro Khanna in California, believing that she is entitled to the seat. Schatz has more potential than Hanabusa ever will.

This whole race is gonna be full of some really bad race baiting.. I really shiver to think how nasty it will get in regards to nativist appeals.




Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 24, 2013, 12:24:40 AM
If fascism is palingenetic ultranationalism, then at least a few strands of radical thought in Islam could be described as palingenetic ultrareligiosity. I myself wouldn't make the comparison and would caution against it for a whole host of reasons (the concept of 'Islamofascism', as if the content of the belief systems was comparable in either a theoretical or a historical sense, is bizarre, wrongheaded, and dangerous, and I think politicus's post veered dangerously close to that without necessarily in fact diving in), but I don't think it's prima facie absurd.

"Islamofascism" is just a very stupid term that fails to describe any real ideology. The closest thing probably would be something like the ideology Gaddafi claimed, or maybe Hamas, but in those cases it's still a pointless term to use to describe them.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 24, 2013, 09:31:40 AM
  My cousin, the mother of the three nephews and sister-in-law to my Pastor, has turned lesbian.  This saddens my Pastor and his wife, like you wouldn't believe.  They cry every night together crying out to God to bring her out of this destructive lifestyle and back to Himself.  I'm a little more accepting of it, but still not supportive of it.  I still pray that God would bring her out of it.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 24, 2013, 01:58:24 PM
I'm surprised that a left-wing guy like TNF would say that, but I agree.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 24, 2013, 02:42:38 PM
All the great trilogies have three parts:

I'm actually fairly popular with women who don't have penises. They're a much friendlier and relaxed bunch than the ones that do. Most of them don't needlessly view their lives through the constant prism of oppression.

Hey, Memphis, here's an idea. Maybe trans* women are more likely to point out the challenges inherent in being a women because they have experienced the difference first-hand.
This is not true at all. They know what it is like to be a trans person, and that probably is a difficult thing. Projecting that experience onto actually being a woman is not accurate. They have no more experience being a woman than I do.

???

For me, personally, I came out and transitioned in between high school and college, which means that everyone I know except family never knew me when I was living as male. I present female now and the way I look nobody guesses that I'm trans. I do tell my close friends, but other than that nobody. Point being that people in the world treat me the same way they would treat any other woman. So when I say "society tells women x", I'm certain I have more credibility than you do, given that you have probably never been perceived or treated as female in your life.
Perception is not the same thing as reality. You can put on all the dresses and take all the hormones you want. It sincerely doesn't offend or affect me. You can also wear high heeled shoes and make people think that you are taller than you really are too. If it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it. However, you're still a guy and your experiences and perceptions are drastically different than those who grew up and continue to be female without the trans trauma. Not there there is a universal female experience, obviously.

I'm actually fairly popular with women who don't have penises. They're a much friendlier and relaxed bunch than the ones that do. Most of them don't needlessly view their lives through the constant prism of oppression.

Hey, Memphis, here's an idea. Maybe trans* women are more likely to point out the challenges inherent in being a women because they have experienced the difference first-hand.
This is not true at all. They know what it is like to be a trans person, and that probably is a difficult thing. Projecting that experience onto actually being a woman is not accurate. They have no more experience being a woman than I do.

???

For me, personally, I came out and transitioned in between high school and college, which means that everyone I know except family never knew me when I was living as male. I present female now and the way I look nobody guesses that I'm trans. I do tell my close friends, but other than that nobody. Point being that people in the world treat me the same way they would treat any other woman. So when I say "society tells women x", I'm certain I have more credibility than you do, given that you have probably never been perceived or treated as female in your life.
Perception is not the same thing as reality. You can put on all the dresses and take all the hormones you want. It sincerely doesn't offend or affect me. You can also wear high heeled shoes and make people think that you are taller than you really are too. If it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it. However, you're still a guy and your experiences and perceptions are drastically different than those who grew up and continue to be female without the trans trauma. Not there there is a universal female experience, obviously.

We are talking about how society treats drj101. Read her post again.
His perception of how society treats him is different than most women's perceptions of their own lives because of his circumstances. Read my post again.

Wait, Dr J is a female impersonator as well?
It's a harmless hobby. I don't hold it against him.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 24, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
Keeping in mind, this is from a pro-religion poster
The thing is, normative male heterosexuality should be critiqued.

We're listening.  :)  

There are people here who can do this much better than I can, but the basic takeaway is that it's more than anything else an instrument of control, and a lot of what straight men (and people who aren't straight men, in all fairness) think is a 'natural' or 'normal' aspect of their or others' sexuality is an outgrowth of that dynamic of control.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 24, 2013, 03:47:43 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172549.0

Too many in here to name.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 24, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Memphis, you only post that here because Nathan questioned you. Period.
Whether or not this is true has zero bearing on whether it belongs here.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 24, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
Memphis, you only post that here because Nathan questioned you. Period.
Whether or not this is true has zero bearing on whether it belongs here.

Funnily enough, I agree verbatim.

1. 'Pro-religion' without further qualifiers is a really weird term.
2. There are good and bad types of control. Control of human shortsightedness through gazing fixedly at the promise and hope of the world to come=good. Control of people who aren't straight men by straight men using sexuality as an instrument of said control=bad. Do you see?
3. Have you ever even heard the phrase 'liberation theology'?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 24, 2013, 09:36:41 PM
Autism: Autism autism autism autism autism, autism autism autism autism autism.

Autism!

This forums war on Memphis is worse than the assault on Miles for his views on marriage.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 24, 2013, 09:49:26 PM
Dude, please click on that quote's link for God's sake. And then delete your post. You're unwittingly propagating a slander.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 24, 2013, 09:55:24 PM
Dude, please click on that quote's link for God's sake. And then delete your post. You're unwittingly propagating a slander.
Ah, it appeared as if he edited his post to something else. My apologies. My feelings on Wyodon's witch hunt remain the same.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 24, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
Dude, please click on that quote's link for God's sake. And then delete your post. You're unwittingly propagating a slander.
Ah, it appeared as if he edited his post to something else. My apologies. My feelings on Wyodon's witch hunt remain the same.

You mean Wyodon-and-that-half-of-the-forum-who-isn't-exactly-fond-of-sexism's witch hunt, I guess.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 24, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
And he only shows the respect for religion and conservatives that they usually deserve, of course.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 24, 2013, 10:15:06 PM
Dude, please click on that quote's link for God's sake. And then delete your post. You're unwittingly propagating a slander.
Ah, it appeared as if he edited his post to something else. My apologies. My feelings on Wyodon's witch hunt remain the same.

You mean Wyodon-and-that-half-of-the-forum-who-isn't-exactly-fond-of-sexism's witch hunt, I guess.
Your right, we should lynch everyone who has put their foot in their mouths everywhere. If we are going to do that, than lynch me first. This forum gangs up on anyone who ventures outside their political circles; you do not see the rightwing of this forum bashing 20RP12 for becoming a leftist. The only thing Memphis has said so far that I have not heard come from any other man was the correlation between clothes and rape, which is indeed a terrible, terrible argument to make, and a more terrible thing to even think. That does not make Memphis a "horrible person."


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 24, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Dude, please click on that quote's link for God's sake. And then delete your post. You're unwittingly propagating a slander.
Ah, it appeared as if he edited his post to something else. My apologies. My feelings on Wyodon's witch hunt remain the same.

You mean Wyodon-and-that-half-of-the-forum-who-isn't-exactly-fond-of-sexism's witch hunt, I guess.
Your right, we should lynch everyone who has put their foot in their mouths everywhere. If we are going to do that, than lynch me first. This forum gangs up on anyone who ventures outside their political circles; you do not see the rightwing of this forum bashing 20RP12 for becoming a leftist. The only thing Memphis has said so far that I have not heard come from any other man was the correlation between clothes and rape, which is indeed a terrible, terrible argument to make, and a more terrible thing to even think. That does not make Memphis a "horrible person."

Memphis hasn't "put his foot on his mouth". He has taken precise positions on a set on issues, and never backed away from these positions. This is not a gaffe, nor it is "accidental sexism (http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/425563/april-17-2013/-accidental-racist--song)". This is plain, simple bigotry. And if you are a bigot, you should be called a bigot.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: rejectamenta on April 24, 2013, 10:57:52 PM
How did memphis' clothes comment turn into "women shouldn't dress like prostitutes if they don't wanna get raped."?

I would not blame a victim of rape. Ever. At the same time, we all live in an imperfect world and need to be mindful of that fact. I wouldn't leave my front door wide open lest somebody loot my modest possessions. It wouldn't be my fault somebody stole my stuff, but it would have been wiser to be more conscious of the risks out there in the world.

He explicitly stated that women are never at fault for being victimized in that way, but all the same would do well to practice caution in unpredictable situations. Comparing the scenario to simple theft cheapens the impact of rape, to say the least, but this is the internet and it's a brain-dead easy analogy to make off the cuff.

Beyond that, he seems to think the biological differences between men and women are too vast for true sexual integration to occur. Again, what is controversial about that viewpoint? Is this not a commonly held stance amongst people? I understand the goal is to deconstruct the concepts of sexual archetypes, but you're seriously calling anyone who thinks this way an irredeemably evil bigot misogynist sexist whateverist. Do you guys routinely crucify weird uncle Clem when he makes off-color comments at Christmas dinner?


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 24, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
How did memphis' clothes comment turn into "women shouldn't dress like prostitutes if they don't wanna get raped."?

I would not blame a victim of rape. Ever. At the same time, we all live in an imperfect world and need to be mindful of that fact. I wouldn't leave my front door wide open lest somebody loot my modest possessions. It wouldn't be my fault somebody stole my stuff, but it would have been wiser to be more conscious of the risks out there in the world.

He explicitly stated that women are never at fault for being victimized in that way, but all the same would do well to practice caution in unpredictable situations. Comparing the scenario to simple theft cheapens the impact of rape, to say the least, but this is the internet and it's a brain-dead easy analogy to make off the cuff.

Beyond that, he seems to think the biological differences between men and women are too vast for true sexual integration to occur. Again, what is controversial about that viewpoint? Is this not a commonly held stance amongst people? I understand the goal is to deconstruct the concepts of sexual archetypes, but you're seriously calling anyone who thinks this way an irredeemably evil bigot misogynist sexist whateverist. Do you guys routinely crucify weird uncle Clem when he makes off-color comments at Christmas dinner?
Here's the deal with the mob. They're just as certain as can be that women are at all times and in all circumstances victims. It's a fundamental postulate to their position. With that established, they are constantly on the lookout for anybody who can play the role of evil woman hating whatever. Because you can't have a victim without a bad guy. So, whenever anybody suggests something that is in any way different to their point of view, they have their woman hating, rape supporting, burkha enforcing aggressor, and, thus, their world view is validated, and at the same time they get to feel morally superior.
And yes, the placement of this conversation is such so that I'm posting directly into the deluge. It doesn't make what I said any less true and you are ever so clever for pointing it out...


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on April 24, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
For the good of everyone, I propose we have a ban on memphis-related posts (from both sides) in the deluge. This thing is already spilling over into way too many threads.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 24, 2013, 11:31:36 PM
For the good of everyone, I propose we have a ban on memphis-related posts (from both sides) in the deluge. This thing is already spilling over into way too many threads.
Seconded. I really don't give a **** about this and I don't want to see it overflowing across the board.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on April 25, 2013, 12:35:13 AM
For the good of everyone, I propose we have a ban on memphis-related posts (from both sides) in the deluge. This thing is already spilling over into way too many threads.

Agreed.


Title: Re: The Oldiesfreak1854 Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on April 25, 2013, 03:25:00 AM
How did memphis' clothes comment turn into "women shouldn't dress like prostitutes if they don't wanna get raped."?

I would not blame a victim of rape. Ever. At the same time, we all live in an imperfect world and need to be mindful of that fact. I wouldn't leave my front door wide open lest somebody loot my modest possessions. It wouldn't be my fault somebody stole my stuff, but it would have been wiser to be more conscious of the risks out there in the world.

He explicitly stated that women are never at fault for being victimized in that way, but all the same would do well to practice caution in unpredictable situations. Comparing the scenario to simple theft cheapens the impact of rape, to say the least, but this is the internet and it's a brain-dead easy analogy to make off the cuff.

Beyond that, he seems to think the biological differences between men and women are too vast for true sexual integration to occur. Again, what is controversial about that viewpoint? Is this not a commonly held stance amongst people? I understand the goal is to deconstruct the concepts of sexual archetypes, but you're seriously calling anyone who thinks this way an irredeemably evil bigot misogynist sexist whateverist. Do you guys routinely crucify weird uncle Clem when he makes off-color comments at Christmas dinner?

I'd like to note that that comment was to my mind one of the least offensive things he said on this subject. I'm certainly not one of those people who go on witch-hunts against anyone who doesn't worship radical feminism. Anyone who thinks that this is about crucifying people who think there are biological differences between the sexes has really missed the point.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 25, 2013, 05:23:51 AM
Yeah, it's time to stop with the war of memphis. We've all come to formulate opinions on him. If you think he's a sexist, awesome (and you're right) but if you don't, then that's fine too. Let's just let it go.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 25, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
The post isn't bad at all until you get to the bolded part, but the bolded part alone is so absurd, and the parts after it show at least extreme ignorance:

I've seen "the writers" referenced before, and thought, what? This is a fiction, but who would type out a fiction like this on an Internet forum? It's not like it's a comic book or anything. Then I thought maybe it was some obscure reference to God or something, but the plural makes no sense. Ah well.

You guys are so right - in a godforsaken place like Kenya there is no baseball all day, no watching movies all night, no eating like he does now. You're lucky to have clean water. There are bugs, it's hot. Missionary work is grueling from what I have heard, and what I did hear was years ago when I was a kid.

The ideal job for Bushie would be to be a minister. It's really not taxing work in the least, especially for a country minister, and even if you have to perform weddings and funerals, you're still the boss. Other people do the heavy-lifting. Bushie could watch TV all day, read his Bible, and prepare sermons. Why wouldn't he want to do that?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on April 25, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
The post isn't bad at all until you get to the bolded part, but the bolded part alone is so absurd, and the parts after it show at least extreme ignorance:

The ideal job for Bushie would be to be a minister. It's really not taxing work in the least

I've always thought he should be a minister.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 25, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
That wasn't a good post. None of my posts are good.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 09:48:44 PM
Tony, you know BRTD's obsequiousness to opebo?  Well, you and Nathan... um...

Just a friendly observation.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 25, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
Tony, you know BRTD's obsequiousness to opebo?  Well, you and Nathan... um...

Just a friendly observation.

...well, yes, you have a point. :P I tend to show off my admiration for posters a bit excessively (Nathan is the latest "victim" of this, but Hash and Marokai have had their moments too). I'll try to keep that in mind.

Still, will you actually contend that none (or even, not a significant share) of Nathan's post are good?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Still, will you actually contend that none (or even, not a significant share) of Nathan's post are good?

Have I ever implied that?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 25, 2013, 10:24:02 PM
Still, will you actually contend that none (or even, not a significant share) of Nathan's post are good?

Have I ever implied that?

Hence, it is correct that the post I quoted belongs in there.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 25, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172672.0


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on April 25, 2013, 11:43:02 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172672.0

WHY


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2013, 05:16:42 AM
The post isn't bad at all until you get to the bolded part, but the bolded part alone is so absurd, and the parts after it show at least extreme ignorance:

The ideal job for Bushie would be to be a minister. It's really not taxing work in the least

I've always thought he should be a minister.

Oh no! How will BRTD respond to this? :o


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on April 26, 2013, 06:19:38 AM
The post isn't bad at all until you get to the bolded part, but the bolded part alone is so absurd, and the parts after it show at least extreme ignorance:

The ideal job for Bushie would be to be a minister. It's really not taxing work in the least

I've always thought he should be a minister.

Oh no! How will BRTD respond to this? :o

We differ quite a lot in our opinions, always have.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 26, 2013, 10:56:02 AM
Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 26, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.
Seems funny that he, of all people, would make such a suggestion.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 26, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.

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Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 26, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
Wut?

Hillary is about change and the future and expanding minority rights. Jeb is only about resurrecting the Bush name. I think Hillary is electable, Jeb isn't.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 26, 2013, 09:45:18 PM
And yet you wonder why this is almost exclusively maleprepubescent boys forum ::)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 27, 2013, 07:20:45 AM
Unsurprisingly, Zack took everything literally, again.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 28, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
Context:

The only pronunciation that is important is - "murd er er"


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on April 28, 2013, 06:07:05 PM
Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.
Seems funny that he, of all people, would make such a suggestion.

Yeah, that wasn't really my point.

And I get along great with people who disagree with me in a general sense, which is why I have friends ranging all over the political spectrum. Some of them are almost as sexist as you, but not quite as bad. I do draw the line somewhere.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on April 30, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
I heard about this last week... I was pleased.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: memphis on April 30, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
And I get along great with people who disagree with me


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 30, 2013, 01:52:16 PM
I wouldn't touch the Carnival cruise ships with a 10 foot pole.  Too many things have gone wrong in the last ~6 months for me to even consider it anymore.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on April 30, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
I wouldn't touch the Carnival cruise ships with a 10 foot pole.  Too many things have gone wrong in the last ~6 months for me to even consider it anymore.

In Bushie's defense, spending $2600 on a Carnival cruise would have been a far more reasonable way of wasting one's money than what is being discussed in that thread.  Indeed, if it it had been anyone other than Bushie who posted that, we'd likely be thinking it was an intentionally funny post instead of an absurd one.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on April 30, 2013, 06:06:22 PM
1964:

The dreaded (but unexciting) rematch

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Richard Nixon / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)



Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 30, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
I identify my religion as Judaism, not because I practice the religion, but out of a general belief that "my ancestors were clearly right". Which I believe has its own name.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Gustaf on May 01, 2013, 08:28:06 AM

Haha, you really aren't very mature. Misogynist men rarely are though.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Franzl on May 01, 2013, 12:35:24 PM
I understand the freedom of religion, but what homosexual supporters need to understand is the freedom of speech.  Not everybody has to applaud, endorse, and embrace homosexuality.

Is anyone being thrown in jail?

No, but they should not be silenced or mocked or ridiculed.

As for Franzl's argument that Young Earth Creationists should be mocked or ridiculed, that is just so outrageous it is humiliating.  It's not true, but America has different view points, that's just the way it is.  Nobody's view points should be subject to ridicule and humiliation and nobody's view points should be silenced.  If we were all forced to have the same viewpoint or keep dissenting viewpoints to ourselves, we would not be a Democracy, we would be a dictatorship.

I kind of wonder if this is a sincere sentiment, or whether it's just trolling.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: afleitch on May 01, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=1387


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: batmacumba on May 01, 2013, 04:17:54 PM
Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.

()


He has a bright future in politics.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 01, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
ugh

Tim Tebow is a Christian, but nobody wants to talk seriously about his Christianity and wants him to keep it to himself, but people are hailing Jason Collins a hero for coming out as gay?  In fact, the media more often than not makes fun of Tebow for his Christianity, but when Chris Boussard on ESPN does not endorse Jason Collins sexuality, ESPN immediately issues an apology and reprimands Boussard. 

Is the standard now to make fun of Christians, but don't you dare say anything against homosexuality?

Why is this country starting to become more tolerant of homosexual relations than Christianity?

How is this okay?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on May 01, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Well, campaigning on welfare is basically how the GOP played its southern strategy and stoked racist fears. Welfare and race are inherently intertwined in people's minds. That's why.
The Southern Strategy was not meant to stoke racist fears through code words or otherwise.  According to Pat Buchanan, the architect of the Southern strategy, it was an attempt to convince Southern moderates who were pro-civil rights to vote Republican as a protest against the racists and segregationists in the Democratic Party:
 http://www.wnd.com/2002/12/16477/

A few Republicans like Ed Gurney and Jesse Helms may have pandered to racists, but the vast majority did not.  Furthermore, it would have made no sense for Nixon to do that in the '68 campaign because of Wallace's independent candidacy.  As Theodore White wrote in his 1968 campaign edition of The Making of the President, Nixon automatically conceded racist voters to George Wallace (p. 424, quoted in Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party's Buried Past).  But anyway, back to the main point: I think the reason that Democrats use the race card so effectively is because they have done such a good job of hiding their party's shameful, 150+ year history or racism (including support for slavery, lynching, Jim Crow laws, the Ku Klux Klan, and segregation) from the public and smear Republicans, the party that was founded to end slavery and fight for greater freedom and equality for all races (especially blacks) as racist using phony evidence of racism in the Southern strategy (including an oft-cited but never verified quote from Lee Atwater) and claiming that the segregationist Dems all became Republicans (when, in fact, the only high-profile segregationist to do so was Strom Thurmond.)  Simply put, they know that charges of racism and race-baiting are taken very seriously by the public and that they can get away with it.


An "I (heart) Ann Coulter" T-shirt and (you guessed it) my Levi's 501s, which I haven't taken off since my last post in this thread.

I know I'm picking on him a bit today... but just the fact that he made both these statements is too good to be true. 



Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 01, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
The OP has already been quoted, but EVERYTHING Bushie says in this thread is worthy of inclusion really: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172898.0


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 01, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
Dead God. This might be among the worst posts in Atlas history:

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Blake Shelton / Miranda Lambert - 315EV - 52%
  Platform: Permanent WPA program for full employment, Medicare for All, Federally-Capitalized State Chartered Public Banks, Criminal Prosecutions of Bankster Thugs, Bailout for homeowners with underwater mortgages, repeal of NCLB/Race to the Top
Adam LeVine / Some lax bro - 223EV - 47%
  Platform:  Mandatory same-sex marriage, mandatory communal showering for bros, dumpster permits for elderly to scavenge when they have no social security nor prospects of gainful employment, no-bid contracts for expanded "humanitarian" drone campaigns in conjunction with Israeli mercenaries, mandatory purchase of bubblegum pop ring tones


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2013, 02:50:42 PM
I'm glad Winfield has a new politician he can sport wood for.

There can be no doubt but what Cruz is a rising star in the Republican party.

He is without question absolutely brilliant, certainly Obama's equal in intelligence, as well as in his oratorical skills.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2013, 02:52:58 PM
that's very clearly a troll post


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2013, 02:53:52 PM

Uh, R2, he means it, I guarantee you that.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MaxQue on May 02, 2013, 02:56:15 PM

Uh, R2, he means it, I guarantee you that.

Well, it's perhaps more an insult to Obama than praising Cruz.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 02, 2013, 02:59:38 PM

Uh, R2, he means it, I guarantee you that.

i have lost all hope in humanity


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on May 02, 2013, 03:03:55 PM

Humanity will be fine, but you'll see more of this from Winfield, I assure you.  There's a lot you can say about Winfield, but he doesn't troll.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on May 03, 2013, 07:47:32 AM
Posting the two prior posts from that thread as well so yall can see why the third is absurdly bad.  Why some people don't ever get humor on the Internet without tons of smilies is beyond me.

Plastic surgery is the wave of the future (along with designer babies, etc), but I'm not a fan of the particular look. They all look like they have an overbite and a Michael Jackson nose.

No.

And yes, this is pretty culturally disgusting. Nothing more to say. (Waiting for someone to come in with a vacuous speech attacking me by saying the word 'empowering' over 8794+ times)

You don't get it Gully.  Plastic surgery is empowering these women to choose their own appearance instead of being oppressed by their genetics.  Why should beauty be restricted to a fortunate few?  You should feel empowered by this trend not oppressed. Or perhaps you wish to be one of those who oppress rather than empower.  (Only 8792 more uses of empower to go. 8791 now.)

If you have to take a knife to your face to avoid being oppressed, you're still being oppressed.

The way to avoid sexism is to stop judging people by their appearance or at least have more realistic expectations about appearance.

Not to mutilate women so they all conform to the sexists' standards.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on May 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
Posting the two prior posts from that thread as well so yall can see why the third is absurdly bad.  Why some people don't ever get humor on the Internet without tons of smilies is beyond me.

Plastic surgery is the wave of the future (along with designer babies, etc), but I'm not a fan of the particular look. They all look like they have an overbite and a Michael Jackson nose.

No.

And yes, this is pretty culturally disgusting. Nothing more to say. (Waiting for someone to come in with a vacuous speech attacking me by saying the word 'empowering' over 8794+ times)

You don't get it Gully.  Plastic surgery is empowering these women to choose their own appearance instead of being oppressed by their genetics.  Why should beauty be restricted to a fortunate few?  You should feel empowered by this trend not oppressed. Or perhaps you wish to be one of those who oppress rather than empower.  (Only 8792 more uses of empower to go. 8791 now.)

If you have to take a knife to your face to avoid being oppressed, you're still being oppressed.

The way to avoid sexism is to stop judging people by their appearance or at least have more realistic expectations about appearance.

Not to mutilate women so they all conform to the sexists' standards.

Its not absurdly bad just because he didn't get your irony. The post itself is sensible and well argued.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on May 03, 2013, 08:00:37 AM
Its not absurdly bad just because he didn't get your irony. The post itself is sensible and well argued.
I'd agree with you if my post hadn't included the part in parenthesis. That should have been enough to clue in all but the clueless.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: politicus on May 03, 2013, 12:23:37 PM
Its not absurdly bad just because he didn't get your irony. The post itself is sensible and well argued.
I'd agree with you if my post hadn't included the part in parenthesis. That should have been enough to clue in all but the clueless.

Your post is irrelevant in judging whether his is absurd or bad. It makes perfect sense even if you deleted yours and should be judged on its own merit.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Sol on May 03, 2013, 12:37:53 PM
Well, I think the liberal Jews are controlling sequestration in order to squash our right to bear arms and own private property. So I think Rep. Long is an FF.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Maxwell on May 03, 2013, 01:06:26 PM
Well, I think the liberal Jews are controlling sequestration in order to squash our right to bear arms and own private property. So I think Rep. Long is an FF.

Considering he's a green, I assume he's joking.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on May 03, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Its not absurdly bad just because he didn't get your irony. The post itself is sensible and well argued.
I'd agree with you if my post hadn't included the part in parenthesis. That should have been enough to clue in all but the clueless.

Your post is irrelevant in judging whether his is absurd or bad. It makes perfect sense even if you deleted yours and should be judged on its own merit.

His post was clearly written in reply to mine based on its content.  Context matters when it comes to judging absurdity.  I'll grant that as a stand alone post, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't a stand alone post and therefore should not be judged on that basis.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on May 03, 2013, 11:09:03 PM
Thatcher/Thatcher


opebo's response to problems arising from big government is more government.  No exceptions.  Combine that with extreme far-leftism on social issues and you've got a pretty scary combination. 


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 04, 2013, 10:22:26 AM
Cheese is no healthier than Doritos.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on May 04, 2013, 02:00:06 PM
I thought this was mad funny:

Obama has certainly been a good President for the 1%.

Right because the poors aren't allowed to invest in the stock market ::)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on May 04, 2013, 02:25:18 PM

He's right.  Both are high in fat and sodium.  It's mainly because people don't eat cheese in the same quantities as they do Doritoes that it doesn't cause some of the same problems.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 04, 2013, 05:07:13 PM
While I do not feel the same way, my disdain for Obama and his regime means I do take pleasure at this high of a percentage that feels this way.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 05, 2013, 04:15:12 AM

He's right.  Both are high in fat and sodium.  It's mainly because people don't eat cheese in the same quantities as they do Doritoes that it doesn't cause some of the same problems.

…because fat and sodium are the only components of healthiness now?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 05, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
I don't want to make this into Update 7, all I want to do is break down the itinerary for discussion and thoughts.

United Airlines
Will Rogers World Airport, Oklahoma City to Washington, Dulles, International Airport
Thursday, 20 June 2013 - 10:40 - 14:28
Flight Duration 2:48

Brussels Airlines
Washington, Dulles, International Airport to Brussels National Airport in Brussels, Belgium
Thursday 20 June 2013 - 17:40 - Friday, 21 June 2013 - 07:15
Flight Duration: 7:35

Brussels Airlines
Brussels National Airport to Kayibanda Airport in Kigali, Rwanda
Friday, 21 June 2013 - 11:35 - 20:00
Flight Duration: 8:25

Brussels Airlines
Kigali, Rwanda to Jomo Kenyatta International Airport in Nairobi, Kenya
Friday, 21 June 2013 - 21:20 - 23:35
Flight Duration - 1:20

----

Swiss Airlines
Nairobi, Kenya to Zurich Airport - Zurich, Switzerland
Monday, 1 July 2013 - 23:25 to Tuesday, 2 July 2013 - 06:25
Flight Duration: 8:00

United Airlines
Zurich, Switzerland to John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, New York
Tuesday, 2 July 2013 - 09:50 to 12:35
Flight Duration: 8:45

United Airlines
JFK to Washington, Dulles
Tuesday, 2 July 2013 - 14:15 to 15:34
Flight Duration: 1:19

United Airlines
IAD to OKC
Tuesday, 2 July 2013 - 18:50 to 20:44
Flight Duration: 2:54


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on May 07, 2013, 01:15:34 AM
This is definitely in the top 5 stupidest posts of 2013.

Marokai on policy, koenkai on personality (normal)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 07, 2013, 08:40:39 AM
That's your opinion, drj101, but perhaps you should look through their posting (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=2249;sa=showPosts) histories (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9496;sa=showPosts).


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 07, 2013, 10:01:52 PM
It looks like we do have female members. Two people voted never.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 07, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
That's your opinion, drj101, but perhaps you should look through their posting (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=2249;sa=showPosts) histories (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=9496;sa=showPosts).

Somewhat prickly versus, frankly, insidious? I don't think this demonstrates what you wanted it to demonstrate.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 07, 2013, 11:28:03 PM
Another -- some states tax different items. Some states tax food, and some don't. Some tax prescription medicines, and some don't. Some tax religious materials and some don't. 

It is quite interesting. The freeloaders using EBT are exempt from paying sales  taxes that real Americans have to pay in some situations.

Inhumane piece of s**t.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 07, 2013, 11:32:33 PM
Another -- some states tax different items. Some states tax food, and some don't. Some tax prescription medicines, and some don't. Some tax religious materials and some don't. 

It is quite interesting. The freeloaders using EBT are exempt from paying sales  taxes that real Americans have to pay in some situations.

Inhumane piece of s**t.

...Wow. Even for krazen that's...

And there are people who think I have a problem with empathy?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 07, 2013, 11:39:05 PM
This is definitely in the top 5 stupidest posts of 2013.

Marokai on policy, koenkai on personality (normal)

I don't want to use the word "pussy" in its derogatory connotation, but A Person so perfectly fits the popular meaning of that word that it's hard to find alternatives. His outrage at anyone who bluntly expresses their thought and doesn't engages in useless formalities has reached comically absurd degrees. Jeez, everyone here iz soo meeen!!! :'(


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 07, 2013, 11:51:28 PM
This is definitely in the top 5 stupidest posts of 2013.

Marokai on policy, koenkai on personality (normal)

I don't want to use the word "pussy" in its derogatory connotation, but A Person so perfectly fits the popular meaning of that word that it's hard to find alternatives. His outrage at anyone who bluntly expresses their thought and doesn't engages in useless formalities has reached comically absurd degrees. Jeez, everyone here iz soo meeen!!! :'(

Oh, so it's okay to call people c**nts now for being thoughtful and sensitive?  Is that the new feminist thing?

The vituperative disdain for people promoting reasonable balance here is what is insidious.  And Marokai is a master at creating it.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 08, 2013, 12:07:47 AM
This is definitely in the top 5 stupidest posts of 2013.

Marokai on policy, koenkai on personality (normal)

I don't want to use the word "pussy" in its derogatory connotation, but A Person so perfectly fits the popular meaning of that word that it's hard to find alternatives. His outrage at anyone who bluntly expresses their thought and doesn't engages in useless formalities has reached comically absurd degrees. Jeez, everyone here iz soo meeen!!! :'(

Oh, so it's okay to call people c**nts now for being thoughtful and sensitive?  Is that the new feminist thing?

The vituperative disdain for people promoting reasonable balance here is what is insidious.  And Marokai is a master at creating it.

I don't exactly see anything "thoughtful" about A Person's knee-jerk reaction to anyone who doesn't constantly bother about using understatements in order not to look rude. Paying so much attention to the caustic/assertive tone of a post while totally ignoring its substance strikes me as the exact opposite of thought.

I guess it depends what you put in "reasonable balance". This is the kind of buzzword that can be applied to literally everything. I also think that my own views constitute a reasonable balance between several contradictory concerns. If you are referring to this tendency to assume that, when you have two contrasting positions, the truth lies exactly in between, I certainly can see why Marokai doesn't like it.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 08, 2013, 08:21:09 AM
Jack saves history!

Though I would probably just visit the past and see my future (actually go to 2050 and see how America and the rest of the world is) I would make this one major tweak to history:

Convincing the Continental Congress to make a balanced budget amendment to the Bill of Rights even though they already know that the leaders should not waste more than they have and to not steal from any other peoples' money.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mopsus on May 08, 2013, 08:32:14 AM
Another -- some states tax different items. Some states tax food, and some don't. Some tax prescription medicines, and some don't. Some tax religious materials and some don't. 

It is quite interesting. The freeloaders using EBT are exempt from paying sales  taxes that real Americans have to pay in some situations.

Inhumane piece of s**t.
The bold is the best part. People on this forum joke about conservatives accusing people that they don't like of not being "real Americans", but he actually said it.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Goldwater on May 08, 2013, 06:26:17 PM
Evolution is the alternative science not Creation science.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
I don't think you can really compare Atlas members to Holocaust deniers, but my first pick would be Kalwejt, along with Franzl, a Person, and Leif.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 08, 2013, 07:15:19 PM
I don't think you can really compare Atlas members to Holocaust deniers, but my first pick would be Kalwejt, along with Franzl, a Person, and Leif.

This post is worse than Holocaust denial.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 08, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
I don't think you can really compare Atlas members to Holocaust deniers, but my first pick would be Kalwejt, along with Franzl, a Person, and Leif.

This post is worse than Holocaust denial.

I put it in the Goldmine. I laughed somewhat barely audibly.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 08, 2013, 07:17:39 PM
I don't think you can really compare Atlas members to Holocaust deniers, but my first pick would be Kalwejt, along with Franzl, a Person, and Leif.

This post is worse than Holocaust denial.

I put it in the Goldmine. I laughed somewhat barely audibly.

It's a post that you laugh at because you don't want to believe anyone could be that much of an asshole.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 08, 2013, 07:37:25 PM
I don't think you can really compare Atlas members to Holocaust deniers, but my first pick would be Kalwejt, along with Franzl, a Person, and Leif.

This post is worse than Holocaust denial.

I put it in the Goldmine. I laughed somewhat barely audibly.

It's a post that you laugh at because you don't want to believe anyone could be that much of an asshole.

I like it because of its absurdity and the fact that the second part contradicts the first.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 10, 2013, 01:20:41 PM
These great patriots are defending the constitution.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: © tweed on May 10, 2013, 01:27:40 PM
krazen understands his role perfectly and is quite self-aware now in playing it.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 10, 2013, 01:42:58 PM
Yeah, there's no point in posting Krazen stuff here anymore. We can safely assume that any post he comes with will be deluge-worthy.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on May 10, 2013, 08:54:41 PM
I'm pretty close to confirming that I know krazen in real life (from before his posting here) and about 75% of what he says is "for effect."


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on May 10, 2013, 09:00:05 PM
Oh good, he's not actually a sociopath, just a useless lying troll who enjoys putting on a character for the internet. Phew!


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 10, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
Oh good, he's not actually a sociopath, just a useless lying troll who enjoys putting on a character for the internet. Phew!

I actually find this somewhat comforting. The idea that he could be 100% serious made me shudder.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on May 10, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
It hasn't been confirmed yet but I have a pretty good idea especially after a conversation I had earlier in the week. Don't know if I'd say he's lying though: he actually is a hyper partisan but likes to embellish his positions/analysis for shock value. Here's a crazy idea: stop paying attention to him!


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on May 10, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
It hasn't been confirmed yet but I have a pretty good idea especially after a conversation I had earlier in the week. Don't know if I'd say he's lying though: he actually is a hyper partisan but likes to embellish his positions/analysis for shock value. Here's a crazy idea: stop paying attention to him!

This is kind of what I expected.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 10, 2013, 11:12:18 PM
I'll go with the second option. We need to know everything he knows and what sort of other plots his type are planning against America.
Option 1, because this little thing called the Constitution exists.


Well, you just support Terrorism, Chairmansanchez.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Sbane on May 10, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
I'll go with the second option. We need to know everything he knows and what sort of other plots his type are planning against America.
Option 1, because this little thing called the Constitution exists.


Well, you just support Terrorism, Chairmansanchez.

Jesus, loosen up a bit. \

Considering what the rightwingers have been saying about the boston bombers, if it turns out that a person is responsible for the West, TX disaster, why shouldn't they also advocate for him to be sent to Guantanamo? Religion?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 10, 2013, 11:26:32 PM
I'll go with the second option. We need to know everything he knows and what sort of other plots his type are planning against America.
Option 1, because this little thing called the Constitution exists.


Well, you just support Terrorism, Chairmansanchez.

Jesus, loosen up a bit. \

Considering what the rightwingers have been saying about the boston bombers, if it turns out that a person is responsible for the West, TX disaster, why shouldn't they also advocate for him to be sent to Guantanamo? Religion?
My apologies, I read right through your sarcasm. Consider this undeluged. I am a bit on edge tonight.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on May 11, 2013, 05:13:25 AM
It hasn't been confirmed yet but I have a pretty good idea especially after a conversation I had earlier in the week. Don't know if I'd say he's lying though: he actually is a hyper partisan but likes to embellish his positions/analysis for shock value. Here's a crazy idea: stop paying attention to him!
Well yeah, that's what they read like. One wouldn't need to know him to guess that. :P


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Keystone Phil on May 11, 2013, 07:18:40 AM
It hasn't been confirmed yet but I have a pretty good idea especially after a conversation I had earlier in the week. Don't know if I'd say he's lying though: he actually is a hyper partisan but likes to embellish his positions/analysis for shock value. Here's a crazy idea: stop paying attention to him!
Well yeah, that's what they read like. One wouldn't need to know him to guess that. :P

Well, some people here seem to believe he's 100% serious in his comments and not embellishing. If he is who I think he is, there is some embellishment but he really is a hyper partisan. :P


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: minionofmidas on May 11, 2013, 07:53:39 AM
It hasn't been confirmed yet but I have a pretty good idea especially after a conversation I had earlier in the week. Don't know if I'd say he's lying though: he actually is a hyper partisan but likes to embellish his positions/analysis for shock value. Here's a crazy idea: stop paying attention to him!
Well yeah, that's what they read like. One wouldn't need to know him to guess that. :P

Well, some people here seem to believe he's 100% serious in his comments and not embellishing. If he is who I think he is, there is some embellishment but he really is a hyper partisan. :P
Yeah, I was including that part. ;)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 12, 2013, 03:16:35 AM
You type in Obama on google and the 3rd thing to come up is "Obama Impeachment". should we be worried??


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 12, 2013, 11:52:20 AM
You type in Obama on google and the 3rd thing to come up is "Obama Impeachment". should we be worried??

Now I know what it must have been like to read my posts 2 years ago


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2013, 12:09:32 PM
I'll say AynRandLand for another reason.  After religion is destroyed, greed by and large will be destroyed.  Most people are naturally benevolent, they need religion/superstition/junk science to feel they have a superior standing than others and therefore justify their greed.  Societies in which religion is powerful breed this type of thought.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 12, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
I'll say AynRandLand for another reason.  After religion is destroyed, greed by and large will be destroyed.  Most people are naturally benevolent, they need religion/superstition/junk science to feel they have a superior standing than others and therefore justify their greed.  Societies in which religion is powerful breed this type of thought.

...what?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 12, 2013, 01:10:26 PM
Well it's certainly a novel argument.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: DC Al Fine on May 12, 2013, 07:21:18 PM

Most people are naturally benevolent

That's an optimistic view


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2013, 08:07:07 PM
Think what you want of science and religion respectively, but when you mix the two absurdity inevitably ensues:

The Sun burns out and dies like any other star, about 20 million years from now.  (Although I expect Jesus to return before then.)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on May 12, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
I'll say AynRandLand for another reason.  After religion is destroyed, greed by and large will be destroyed.  Most people are naturally benevolent, they need religion/superstition/junk science to feel they have a superior standing than others and therefore justify their greed.  Societies in which religion is powerful breed this type of thought.

...what?

It's absurd to think my belief system will save humanity?  You do the exact same!

no matter. 


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: DC Al Fine on May 12, 2013, 09:28:58 PM
After religion is destroyed, greed by and large will be destroyed.  Most people are naturally benevolent, they need religion/superstition/junk science to feel they have a superior standing than others and therefore justify their greed.
This is backwards, of course. People are naturally self-centred and need society to teach them otherwise.

Plenty aren't.  

Quote
To illustrate: This picture is no coincidence, whether or not the faithful would like to believe otherwise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/homeless-man-tests-kindness-religions-atheists-money_n_3189871.html
[snip img]
For an atheist, you sure don't seem to put much stock in scientifically conducted research.

What scientifically conducted research?

The most religious Americans actually give more money to secular causes than do secular Americans. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009361375685394.html)

Quote
We find the same pattern when we examine how much people give. On average, those in the most religious fifth donate $3,000 to charity annually. Those in the most secular fifth give approximately $1,000. The story is the same when we consider charitable giving as a fraction of household income: By this measure, religious Americans are four times as generous as their secular neighbors, even as they are a little less affluent than secular Americans.

snip

Roughly three-quarters of charity given by highly religious Americans is indeed channeled toward religion. But religiosity provides such a boost to financial giving overall that the most religious Americans actually give more money to secular causes than do secular Americans.


And how many "secular" Americans are there?  

Ehhh... go buy your way into heaven/do it because you are told if you like, whether you like it or not that's what guides the good deeds of most religious people.  If the ends justify the means, good for you.  I don't agree.

I just don't understand the complete lack of equality in the matter.  The religiouses are allowed to advertise their belief system as the humanity's salvation... but us atheists aren't allowed to do the same?  I genuinely believe atheism/agnosticism/secularism is what will save humanity.  That's why I believe in it so strongly.  

More bigotry against atheists from the Atlas, but that's to be expected.  Every minority has to deal with BS. 


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 12, 2013, 10:07:21 PM
Jesus [inks]ing Christ...

This is what Libertarians want America to look like, and they don't even know it.
No, not really. The building posed a threat to neighboring buildings, and other individuals’ lives. According to most Libertarians (with the anarchists and the hardcore Objectivists being excluded) the individual’s rights only extend to the point that preserves their own life without threatening the life of somebody else.
But didn't those individuals negotiate their rights in libertarian logic, by agreeing to employment there? Who would be doing the law enforcement in libertarian society, by the way?
Yes, if they saw the place falling apart, then they shouldn't have worked there. Everyone needs to eat, however and they took the risk everyday for that reason. It is certainly not their fault that they are dead, of course-don’t misconstrue that as blame. The buildings collapse threatened neighbors not connected with the factory at all, and is where the crime is in my opinion.

As for law enforcement, that belongs to the state. In fact, that is the entire purpose of the state.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on May 13, 2013, 05:35:08 PM
New Jersey is pretty much my second state, other than my home state of PA. Overall he's pretty horrible governor.  He's anti-union, anti-choice, anti-equality, anti-civil liberties, and probably a neo-con on civil liberties.

If he is elected president, which he won't, he would continue the corporate policies and anti-civil liberty policies that have happened under Obama/Bush/Clinton.

All of the Republican candidates, expect maybe Rand Paul, but he flip flopped on drones so I would never vote for him, are for things like NDAA 2012, Patriot Act, FISA, Gitmo Bay, drones, anti-marriage equality, anti-choice, pro-corporate controlled.  Hiliary will also continue the pro-corporate anti-civil liberty policies of Obama/Bush/Clinton.

That's why I like many proud Americans will vote third party in 2016.  Because we aren't foolish enough to voe for the lesser of two evils (Democrats).


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Mechaman on May 13, 2013, 05:43:14 PM
New Jersey is pretty much my second state, other than my home state of PA. Overall he's pretty horrible governor.  He's anti-union, anti-choice, anti-equality, anti-civil liberties, and probably a neo-con on civil liberties.

If he is elected president, which he won't, he would continue the corporate policies and anti-civil liberty policies that have happened under Obama/Bush/Clinton.

All of the Republican candidates, expect maybe Rand Paul, but he flip flopped on drones so I would never vote for him, are for things like NDAA 2012, Patriot Act, FISA, Gitmo Bay, drones, anti-marriage equality, anti-choice, pro-corporate controlled.  Hiliary will also continue the pro-corporate anti-civil liberty policies of Obama/Bush/Clinton.

That's why I like many proud Americans will vote third party in 2016.  Because we aren't foolish enough to voe for the lesser of two evils (Democrats).

I'm sorry, I think you might've accidentally put this in the wrong thr-. . . .  oh right.

Yeah, thinking people would actually have the nads to support, in large numbers no less, a third party bid is pretty foolish.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: rejectamenta on May 13, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
That is absolutely in the wrong thread, as it is a scathingly negative post about Chris Christie.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 13, 2013, 06:45:19 PM
That is absolutely in the wrong thread, as it is a scathingly negative post about Chris Christie.

All around it is a bad post, including for the reason you gave.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 15, 2013, 11:00:37 PM
Clinton will need to pick someone relatively new to the national stage who can bring excitement to the Democratic ticket in what is bound to be a lull of a year.  Thus, I think its likely that Clinton (or any 2016 Democratic nom) to pick a new Democratic governor or Senator elected in 2014.  Alternatively, to generate the same kind of energy they could nominate another woman or a minority...

Which raises the question, will America 2016 be ready for a Democratic ticket that features two women or a woman and a racial minority?
 

Two women?  Absolutely 0% chance.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 16, 2013, 11:21:21 AM
I'll say AynRandLand for another reason.  After religion is destroyed, greed by and large will be destroyed.  Most people are naturally benevolent, they need religion/superstition/junk science to feel they have a superior standing than others and therefore justify their greed.  Societies in which religion is powerful breed this type of thought.

...what?

It's absurd to think my belief system will save humanity?  You do the exact same!

no matter. 

It's not absurd to think that, say, secular humanism, or Marxism, or some sort of Bergsonian deal, or some other particular non-theistic belief system would save humanity (it would be incorrect and wrong-appointed in my view, but it's not absurd). You've intimated this about the first listed, secular humanism, and I don't think that's absurd. Thinking that atheism in itself or the end of 'religion' (which is some sort of monolithic mass apparently) in itself would be at all efficacious in such is absurd, because all atheism is is a lack of assent to a specific idea.  I think it's absurd to suggest that humanity would be saved by the lack of something, no matter how pernicious you might believe that thing to be. The sentence 'After religion is destroyed, greed by and large be destroyed' is one of the flat-out strangest and most nonsensical statements I've ever read.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 18, 2013, 01:05:45 AM
I debated for a long time whether or not this really belonged here (not whether I thought it was bad, but whether I wanted to publicly present it as such), but the phrase 'inherently better looking' pushed it over the top in the end.

Why are you people all so impatient too make the baby perfect before its born? We have education for a reason. And don't anyone say education could be eliminated with this. Education builds up intelligence, critical thinking, social skills, and you actually get to have a childhood.

I don't think this applies to what we are talking about. Nobody is talking about getting rid of education. You aren't making any sense. Genetic Engineering would solve problems that can't be fixed by "education".

We are talking about making people inherently smarter, inherently healthier, inherently better looking (and yes, that matters) and freeing people from genetic disorders. This is the next great leap in the human condition. Words like "ugly" or "stupid" to describe people will be a relic of the past.

I honestly think of people who would ban this the same way as people who supported slavery in the 1850's. The social conservatives on this issue would see people enslaved to their genes, enslaved to defects and disorders that didn't have to happen, and enslaved to not be the best they could be.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: rejectamenta on May 18, 2013, 01:47:56 AM
The equivalency to slavery over an issue that is still largely science fiction (Ernest explains why zapping chromosomes out of a fetus is not feasible) is my favorite part. Talk about jumpin' the gun.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 18, 2013, 03:03:50 AM
The equivalency to slavery over an issue that is still largely science fiction (Ernest explains why zapping chromosomes out of a fetus is not feasible) is my favorite part. Talk about jumpin' the gun.

Yeah, that's pretty special too. 'Inherently better looking' and that whole last paragraph there push it up out of the quotidian drudgery of simply being an ethical position with which I disagree.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 18, 2013, 07:55:52 AM
Why should he get off so easily in comparison to the babies he killed? If he were white he'd definitely be getting a case of sparky or whatever they use these days (lethal injection). Slime like him should get Osama bin Ladin'd


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 21, 2013, 01:32:23 AM
Link's posts in this thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173774.0) definitely belong here.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 21, 2013, 08:07:05 AM
Context: This is in a thread about anti-GM actions taken by the government of Hungary:


The funny thing is that unscientific views on GM foods are far far more harmful than the young earth creationism that I keep hearing about.

Which doesn't make young earth creationism any more scientific or any more constitutional to teach in public schools. Anything useful to add?

Perhaps, but certainly GM is more pressing.  Besides, this shows the utter hypocrisy of the far-left when they claim to hold the mantle on scientific progress.  They don't.

Emphasis mine.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: DC Al Fine on May 21, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
I debated for a long time whether or not this really belonged here (not whether I thought it was bad, but whether I wanted to publicly present it as such), but the phrase 'inherently better looking' pushed it over the top in the end.

Why are you people all so impatient too make the baby perfect before its born? We have education for a reason. And don't anyone say education could be eliminated with this. Education builds up intelligence, critical thinking, social skills, and you actually get to have a childhood.

I don't think this applies to what we are talking about. Nobody is talking about getting rid of education. You aren't making any sense. Genetic Engineering would solve problems that can't be fixed by "education".

We are talking about making people inherently smarter, inherently healthier, inherently better looking (and yes, that matters) and freeing people from genetic disorders. This is the next great leap in the human condition. Words like "ugly" or "stupid" to describe people will be a relic of the past.

I honestly think of people who would ban this the same way as people who supported slavery in the 1850's. The social conservatives on this issue would see people enslaved to their genes, enslaved to defects and disorders that didn't have to happen, and enslaved to not be the best they could be.

If there was ever a post where reductio ad hitlerum was justified :P


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Oakvale on May 21, 2013, 01:06:54 PM
Atlas asks the big questions, gets moronic, horrible answers. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173707.0)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 21, 2013, 02:13:46 PM
Well it's good to know that Atlas's understanding of race is basically this. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Morton_drawing.png)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on May 21, 2013, 02:53:23 PM
Atlas asks the big questions, gets moronic, horrible answers. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173707.0)

I'm shocked and appaled at that thread.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on May 21, 2013, 03:01:55 PM
Atlas asks the big questions, gets moronic, horrible answers. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173707.0)

I'm shocked and appaled at that thread.

Really?  Why so sensitive?  I for one have never thought about race.  It is like breeds of dog, right?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on May 21, 2013, 03:08:13 PM
Atlas asks the big questions, gets moronic, horrible answers. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173707.0)

I'm shocked and appaled at that thread.

Really?  Why so sensitive?  I for one have never thought about race.  It is like breeds of dog, right?

Opebo, no, no it's not and the thread was brought about by the Richwine debacle so, yeah, sensitive subject requires sensitive reactions.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 21, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Who is Richwine? Some troll poster I've missed?


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Leftbehind on May 21, 2013, 04:14:10 PM
Googled it earlier, someone to do with Heritage Foundation if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on May 21, 2013, 04:20:00 PM
Googled it earlier, someone to do with Heritage Foundation if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/05/jason_richwine_hispanics_and_iqs_the_heritage_foundation_scholar_began_researching.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2013/05/jason_richwine_hispanics_and_iqs_the_heritage_foundation_scholar_began_researching.html)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Kitteh on May 21, 2013, 04:47:17 PM
Creeper alert.

Hyperfeminismland ftw. But it would be nicer with male sex slaves, which would also help sustain population level.

I am not sure why you think a radical feminist matriarchy would have such a negative attitude towards heterosexual activity. If women controlled society 100% the male sexual exploitation they are against would disappear.

If women had "indentured male servants" why wouldn't they use them for sex?
That's a little scary.

And more than we need to know about his her fetishes.

Partly joking here and partly trying to be analytical.

If you give one gender complete control sexual exploitation of the other gender is inevitable.

All the countries are horrible, but if I should chose one I would prefer the option where my gender was in control. Its less freaky than my race having all the power. And the two other options are unacceptable to me. A police state and a plutocracy would both be too oppressive for a freedom loving person like me. So I am left with choosing between two versions where I get to be free, but others are oppressed.  

Do you have a picture?  I have a picture in my mind and I just want to see how closely it matches reality.

I used to date a tall blond from Denmark.  I really liked the conversations.  It was very different thinking from Americans.

Anyway Bloomberg land for me.  I like aspects of your Hyperfeminismland vision but the majority of American women are overweight or obese so no... strictly platonic.  I need free will to hand pick a mate.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 21, 2013, 10:25:24 PM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 21, 2013, 11:06:03 PM
Mega-old post, but I don't think age denies it a place in this thread.

As an economic populist/progressive I'd have supported Orval Faubus but I would never have a agreed with his segregationist stance. The likelihood is I'd have voted for the Democrat, Faubus or not

Did Faubus merely run as a segregationist and/or, apart from Little Rock High School, did he govern as a segregationist?

From what I can gather Lester Maddox of Georgia ran as a segregationist but governed as a moderate

I didn't vote. Horrible Person and Freedom Fighter are too narrow

Dave


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on May 22, 2013, 01:41:31 AM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)

You can get a prom date. That's probably farther than half of Atlas has gone. Hell, I went full Bushie and watched the NBA playoffs last year.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: MaxQue on May 22, 2013, 02:07:40 AM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)

You can get a prom date. That's probably farther than half of Atlas has gone. Hell, I went full Bushie and watched the NBA playoffs last year.

I think he is refering more to their absence from Atlas than to people being single.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: free my dawg on May 22, 2013, 03:12:04 AM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)

You can get a prom date. That's probably farther than half of Atlas has gone. Hell, I went full Bushie and watched the NBA playoffs last year.

I think he is refering more to their absence from Atlas than to people being single.

I know. I was referring to his Irony Ore comment.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 22, 2013, 03:36:22 AM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)

You can get a prom date. That's probably farther than half of Atlas has gone. Hell, I went full Bushie and watched the NBA playoffs last year.

I think he is refering more to their absence from Atlas than to people being single.

Indeed I was.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: opebo on May 22, 2013, 05:02:54 AM
... race.  It is like breeds of dog, right?

Opebo, no, no it's not...

Really?  Different colors of fur, different size and jumping ability... it seems pretty much the same to me.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: DC Al Fine on May 22, 2013, 08:10:51 AM
Why doesn't Atlas have women again?

(feel free to put this in the Irony Ore)

You can get a prom date. That's probably farther than half of Atlas has gone. Hell, I went full Bushie and watched the NBA playoffs last year.

DC Al Fine must teach you all how to pick up chicks.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 22, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
Atlas asks the big questions, gets moronic, horrible answers. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173707.0)

I'm shocked and appaled at that thread.

Same.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 23, 2013, 11:55:02 AM
I'm not going to follow all of her advice as she wants me to stay within 1500-1800 calories.  That is just not going to happen.  I can do 2000-2250, but I refuse to starve myself and I refuse to constantly be hungry and not be able to enjoy meal time.  She also thinks I should only have 3 oz of meat per day (the size of a smart phone).  I'm sorry, but that's only 2-3 bites.  Not going to happen.  If I want a steak, I'm going to have a steak.  Not every day, naturally, but once in a while, I will indulge in a steak.


Title: Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 23, 2013, 12:06:09 PM
I'm not going to follow all of her advice as she wants me to stay within 1500-1800 calories.  That is just not going to happen.  I can do 2000-2250, but I refuse to starve myself and I refuse to constantly be hungry and not be able to enjoy meal time.  She also thinks I should only have 3 oz of meat per day (the size of a smart phone).  I'm sorry, but that's only 2-3 bites.  Not going to happen.  If I want a steak, I'm going to have a steak.  Not every day, naturally, but once in a while, I will indulge in a steak.

I'd like to say "unbelievable" but it's really not. What a zilch.