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Title: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Keystone Phil on May 15, 2012, 01:00:48 PM
Love it - http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/15/bush_backs_romney.html (http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/15/bush_backs_romney.html)


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 15, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
The Obama campaign's response, according to Politico:

“President Bush has endorsed Governor Romney, and Governor Romney has endorsed a return to Bush-era economic policies: massive tax cuts for the wealthiest and no accountability for Wall Street, which led to huge deficits and tepid growth. Now Romney wants to double down on those same, failed policies – expanding upon the Bush tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires at a cost of $5 trillion, and, once again, allowing Wall Street to write its own rules.  While President Obama has pursued policies that have helped create more than 4.2 million private sector jobs, revived manufacturing and the auto industry, Governor Romney would return to the same policies that dragged our economy down and punished the middle class.”


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on May 15, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
I thought Romney wanted an across the board tax cut?


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 15, 2012, 03:03:54 PM
Obama knows that Bush was the one who began the auto bailouts, doesn't he?


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 15, 2012, 03:10:40 PM
The Obama campaign's response, according to Politico:

“President Bush has endorsed Governor Romney, and Governor Romney has endorsed a return to Bush-era economic policies: massive tax cuts for the wealthiest and no accountability for Wall Street, which led to huge deficits and tepid growth. Now Romney wants to double down on those same, failed policies – expanding upon the Bush tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires at a cost of $5 trillion, and, once again, allowing Wall Street to write its own rules.  While President Obama has pursued policies that have helped create more than 4.2 million private sector jobs, revived manufacturing and the auto industry, Governor Romney would return to the same policies that dragged our economy down and punished the middle class.”

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Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: greenforest32 on May 15, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
I thought Romney wanted an across the board tax cut?

Romney stands with the 99%

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http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3695

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Unveiling his tax plan on February 22, Governor Romney's campaign said it would: 1) make permanent President Bush's tax cuts (but not those enacted under President Obama, which are scheduled to expire at the same time and which expanded several refundable tax credits for low- and middle-income families); 2) then cut individual income tax rates 20 percent below the Bush levels, reducing the Bush top rate of 35 percent to a new top rate of 28 percent; 3) repeal the estate tax; 4) repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax; 5) cut the top corporate tax rate by nearly 30 percent (from 35 to 25 percent); and 6) scale back unspecified "tax expenditures," mainly for high-income people. It would leave untouched the biggest tax break for high-income households — the 15 percent tax rate on capital gains and dividends — and eliminate capital gains taxes altogether for people with incomes below $200,000. Governor Romney's advisers also said the plan would preserve "revenue neutrality" and maintain the current degree of progressivity in the tax code.

As experts at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center (TPC) have noted, it would be virtually impossible to achieve all of the plan's multiple goals at the same time. In particular, the Romney tax policy changes would almost certainly add substantially to the deficit. Assessing the plan, the TPC's Roberton Williams observed, "Nothing comes to mind to broaden the tax base enough to pay for the lower rates." [1]

Now, a new TPC analysis (issued March 1) backs up the skepticism with hard facts. It finds that, absent base broadeners, the Romney plan would cut taxes by $481 billion in 2015 alone, translating into a $4.9 trillion revenue loss over the coming decade. [2] Most tax experts believe that's far more than any conceivable set of base-broadeners (i.e., reductions in tax expenditures) could generate,[3] leaving the Romney plan as not "revenue neutral" but, instead, a significant revenue loser.

Moreover, a close reading of the document from the Romney campaign about the plan, as well as Governor Romney's February 23 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal and statements by Romney campaign advisor Glenn Hubbard, suggest that the plan is not, in fact, intended to be revenue neutral. Neither the campaign document nor the Romney op-ed actually says it is. Instead, both state: "Stronger economic growth and reductions in spending will help to ensure that these tax cuts do not expand deficits."[4] In other words, along with scaling back unspecified tax expenditures, the plan relies in substantial part on "dynamic scoring" — an assumption that tax cuts will boost economic growth and, in turn, federal tax revenues — and very deep budget cuts to avoid expanding the deficit.

Finally, the Romney plan would significantly exacerbate the already serious problem of income inequality in America, conferring extraordinarily large tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans while raising taxes on people making less than $30,000 a year. TPC estimates that people who make over $1 million a year would get an average tax cut of $250,000 in 2015 (increasing their after-tax income by an average of almost 12 percent), while people making between $40,000 and $50,000 would get an average tax cut of $512 (increasing their after-tax income by an average of 1.3 percent), and people making between $10,000 and $20,000 would pay an average $174 more in taxes (decreasing their after-tax income by an average of 1.1 percent).

Look at these "serious" fiscally responsible deficit hawks!

*swoons*


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 15, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Joe Republic on May 15, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
I hope W was pulling his 'trying to exit the Chinese press conference' face as this happened.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 15, 2012, 03:35:37 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

LOL


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: pbrower2a on May 15, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

...Malaysia is a very pro-American country.

Dubya has become a veritable recluse, unlike recent ex-Presidents except for Reagan (and that was a matter of health). The only times that I have seen him in public is at baseball games in Arlington, Texas with Texas Rangers baseball team owner and pitching great Nolan Ryan nearby. 


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: jmc247 on May 15, 2012, 04:31:58 PM
That takes the cake for the weakest endorsement of the season.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: jmc247 on May 15, 2012, 04:36:40 PM
Dubya has become a veritable recluse, unlike recent ex-Presidents except for Reagan (and that was a matter of health). The only times that I have seen him in public is at baseball games in Arlington, Texas with Texas Rangers baseball team owner and pitching great Nolan Ryan nearby. 

He actually gives alot of speeches and does alot of things, but the media is focused on inside domestic political baseball which Bush is trying to avoid playing.

If Bush pulled a Cheney and said Obama is making America less safe he would be all over the TV for weeks. The speeches like the one he gave today are ignored by the TV media.

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Bush Says U.S. Must Support Democratic Revolutions Across World

Former President George W. Bush said the U.S. has a duty to support democratic revolutions throughout the world to foster the spread of freedom, while warning the path forward is never straight or steady.

“Freedom is a powerful force, but it does not advance on the wheels of historical inevitability,” Bush said today in Washington at an event organized by his presidential center to honor dissidents and democratic activists.

Bush, who left the White House in January 2009 after two terms in office, cited the example of the Arab Spring, which he called “the greatest challenge to authoritarian rule since the fall of communism.”

To promote support for democracy activists, the George W. Bush Presidential Center is collecting interviews with dissidents around the world to document their struggles and motivation.

Bush was introduced by Syrian dissident Ammar Abdulhamid, founder of the Tharwa Foundation, which supports democratic movements in the Middle East and North Africa.

Abdulhamid said the interviews help “break the barrier of fear” for democracy activists. “The collection shows freedom advocates are not alone.”

Myanmar opposition leader and Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi also addressed the conference via videoconference. Suu Kyi took her seat in parliament this month after 15 years under house arrest.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-15/bush-says-u-s-must-support-democratic-revolutions-across-world.html


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Vosem on May 15, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

Lolz, this is as crazy as saying Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 15, 2012, 04:39:23 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

Lolz, this is as crazy as saying Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.
Amen


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: mondale84 on May 15, 2012, 05:54:12 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

Lolz, this is as crazy as saying Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.

Henry Kissinger IS a war criminal :P


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Paul Kemp on May 15, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

...aaannnddd whogivesash**t


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on May 15, 2012, 06:47:19 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

I say we extradite him. :P

On a note more related to the topic, did the elevator door literally close on Dubya?


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 15, 2012, 06:54:57 PM
Right after this happens? (http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981331196)

Perfect.

I say we extradite him. :P

On a note more related to the topic, did the elevator door literally close on Dubya?

Likely not.

Something more like he looked up with a twinkle in his eye, said "I'm for Mitt Romney" in a slightly-raspy southern drawl, then the doors dramatically closed.

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Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: TeePee4Prez on May 15, 2012, 10:43:19 PM
Too funny.  Love it!


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on May 15, 2012, 11:04:29 PM
Romney will never get elected now.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Lincoln Republican on May 15, 2012, 11:07:05 PM
Phil and Rick are going to drown in their own bitterness.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Napoleon on May 15, 2012, 11:08:54 PM
Romney attacking Obama for giving a health care mandate.
Obama attacking Romney over Bush tax cut extensions.
These two sure are characters.


Title: Re: W. endorses Romney...as elevator doors close on him.
Post by: Torie on May 15, 2012, 11:19:51 PM
Dubya is rather strict about avoiding being enmeshed in dumping on his successor, because he takes seriously this Presidential Club stuff (I know that from watching a CSPAN Brian Lamb interview of an author with a new book about "The Club"). That might explain some of this. Just a thought.