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Title: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on May 21, 2012, 10:46:58 AM
Yes, it's required to lie to get into the presidential business, but who were some of the more "honest" pesidents?

I vote:
Pre-Presidents
The Founding Fathers
William Henry Harrison
James K. Polk
David Rice Atchinson
Abraham Lincoln
Chester Arthur
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter

Jackson, Truman, JFK and Bush 41 are borderline.


Title: Re: Honest Presidents
Post by: tpfkaw on May 21, 2012, 12:40:49 PM
Oxymoron.


Title: Re: Honest Presidents
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on May 21, 2012, 12:59:43 PM
"Honest human being" is already an oxymoron, so I agree.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 21, 2012, 05:00:50 PM
Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Cleveland, (Ben) Harrison, and Coolidge are the ones I consider the most honest, though a honest human is an oxymoron, as has been pointed out. Of these, Washington, Lincoln, and Harrison are not Presidents that I would necessarily like politically.  How anyone could vote for any of the others is beyond me.

Adams was an aspiring tyrant for creating the Alien and Sedition Acts.

Madison heavily edited his letters and diaries in his later years, destroying much of our nation’s history in order to preserve his legacy.

Monroe was a politician through and through, but was not a particularly bad (or good) President.

John Quincy Adams was never legitimately elected President to begin with…

Andrew Jackson got rid of the bank, but was a dictator who wiped his ass with the constitution. HP.

Martin Van Buren was a very good President, but the Trail of Tears….

William Henry Harrison ran against Van Buren by frequently screaming “I LIVEZ IN A CABIN” while lying about his background-a rich Virginia planter. He did not focus on the issues, and was the ultimate do nothing President.

John Tyler is a truly underrated man—but, like Monroe, he was a politician. He should of bolted from the Whigs and just ran as a Democrat. But, instead, he remained in the party, and then betrayed their principles (which were wrong anyway) as President.

James Polk was not a bad President, but his hawkish views nearly lead to the United States and the United Kingdom going to war. A FF, but he had his flaws.

Zachary Taylor did prevent some bad stuff from going down, but all in all, he never really did anything in my opinion that would make him an “honest man”.

Millard Fillmore forced Japan to open up trade.

Franklin Pierce was a Confederate spy in his later years for hells sake!

James Buchanan was….he…he just sucked.

Johnson was incompetent, self serving, and vengeful. He did not have the country on his mind.

Grant had his problems with corruption…

Hays, Garfield, and Arthur did not do much of note. Hays was not legitimate, like Adams Jr, because the election was clearly stolen.

More to come ;)



Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 21, 2012, 05:23:43 PM
lol


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on May 22, 2012, 01:23:59 AM
I hate to say it, but I don't think Lincoln was as honest as his nickname would suggest. A great president, yes. But his views on slavery were pretty convoluted--he tried to please too many people.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 22, 2012, 01:53:11 AM
I'm pretty sure every president has lied about something.  Whether those lies were big or small is another question.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on May 27, 2012, 09:21:54 AM
Adams was an aspiring tyrant for creating the Alien and Sedition Acts.

John Quincy Adams was never legitimately elected President to begin with…

Hating on the Adamses will not be tolerated.

And why can't anyone here spell "Hayes"?

And also, in that one post, quoted above, there's way too much hatin'. I'm sorry, but the hate's just gotta stop.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
David Rice Atchison.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on May 28, 2012, 02:16:38 AM
I hate to say it, but I don't think Lincoln was as honest as his nickname would suggest. A great president, yes. But his views on slavery were pretty convoluted--he tried to please too many people.

     Lincoln was ultimately a smart politician in a unique position who was later deified as a result of the lot he drew. The Emancipation Proclamation did little other than please his base.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on May 28, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
It's so hard to tell. I'm sure there were several, especially back in the day. Recently I doubt there are very many I could trust further than I could throw. And I only weigh 155, so that would end up being like 2 feet. Except the dead ones, I guess they'd be pretty easy to throw...


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on May 29, 2012, 07:58:49 PM
Sanchez, are you going to continue?

By the way, who voted for Nixon?


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: Donerail on May 29, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
Sanchez, are you going to continue?

By the way, who voted for Nixon?

A troll.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 29, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
Five people think Bush is honest!?


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: gunnut on May 31, 2012, 06:45:49 PM

Those 6 people (as of now) must be considering his truthful speech of finding Katrina, and bringing her to justice.


Title: Re: Which Presidents do you concider "honest"?
Post by: RI on May 31, 2012, 07:58:38 PM
The fascination with "honest" politicians in this country is perplexing.