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Title: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Failed)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 23, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
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Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use

Findings-
Copying and pasting small type into the bar is far more difficult then highlighting white type- which achieves the same purpose

Amendment-
Any person who used small type shall be forced to wear nipple rings at least ten inches in circumference for a period of one year.

Sponsor: Clarence


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 23, 2012, 09:19:48 AM
Clarence you have 24 hours to argue for this bill.


What about Freedom of Speech? :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: ilikeverin on May 23, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
Oh, come now, everyone knows just to press the quote button.

Everyone who isn't 5,000,000 years old.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 23, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
White type is far better then small type... small type is a pain in the ass. It also rarely hides funny remarks... two examples above show that :-PP


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Donerail on May 23, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
White type is far better then small type... small type is a pain in the ass. It also rarely hides funny remarks... two examples above show that :-PP

Except when it's white type at the end of a sentence, when unless the sentence is obviously cut off, it's really not that effective, since people may not even notice it's there, unlike small time, which is evident due to there actually being something. White type may be easier to read, but small type is easier to notice. See my point about the end of sentences?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 23, 2012, 03:26:55 PM
WHAT IF I TYPE OBNOXIOUSLY BIG?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 23, 2012, 03:37:12 PM
White type is far better then small type... small type is a pain in the ass. It also rarely hides funny remarks... two examples above show that :-PP

Except when it's white type at the end of a sentence, when unless the sentence is obviously cut off, it's really not that effective, since people may not even notice it's there, unlike small time, which is evident due to there actually being something. White type may be easier to read, but small type is easier to notice. See my point about the end of sentences?
Gray then...


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Donerail on May 23, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
White type is far better then small type... small type is a pain in the ass. It also rarely hides funny remarks... two examples above show that :-PP

Except when it's white type at the end of a sentence, when unless the sentence is obviously cut off, it's really not that effective, since people may not even notice it's there, unlike small time, which is evident due to there actually being something. White type may be easier to read, but small type is easier to notice. See my point about the end of sentences?
Gray then...

Gray is immediately readable, however. Maybe define small type as anything less than 5pt?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 23, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
I propose an Amendment:

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Section 2:
Small type shall be defined as type smaller than 5 pt.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 24, 2012, 08:54:12 AM
Quote from: Amendment 49:14 by Ben
Section 2:
Small type shall be defined as type smaller than 5 pt.

Sponsor Feedback: No Such Number
Status: No Such Zone

I have concerns that the underlying amendment and the amendments to it are functionally impractical.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 24, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
I deem Ben's amendment friendly... that sounds good to me

NC Yankee- the "nipple rings" section is in jest...how about if I amend to a resolution kindly asking folks not to use below 5 point type?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 24, 2012, 11:38:59 AM
The nipple rings was the most obvious problem for sure, since that is functionally impossible.


The impractical concern was the structure as a Constitutional Amendment.

Resolution is probably the best way to approach this.


Senators have 24 hours to object to Ben's amendment.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 24, 2012, 11:52:32 AM
I agree with Ben's amendment and propose the following...

Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use

Findings-
Copying and pasting small type into the bar is far more difficult then highlighting white type- which achieves the same purpose

Resolution-
The AARP- Atlasian Association of ReallyOld Persons- humbly requests that users take into account our aged and tired eyes by not using small type


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 24, 2012, 12:29:48 PM
Quote from: Amendment 49:15 by Clarence
Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use

Findings-
Copying and pasting small type into the bar is far more difficult then highlighting white type- which achieves the same purpose

Resolution-
The AARP- Atlasian Association of ReallyOld Persons- humbly requests that users take into account our aged and tired eyes by not using small type

Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: Senators have 24 hours to object


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 27, 2012, 10:47:08 AM
Both amendments are adopted:

Quote from: Final Text?
Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use

Findings-
Copying and pasting small type into the bar is far more difficult then highlighting white type- which achieves the same purpose

Resolution-
Section 1: The AARP- Atlasian Association of ReallyOld Persons- humbly requests that users take into account our aged and tired eyes by not using small type

Section 2: Small type shall be defined as type smaller than 5 pt.


Are we ready to go here?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 27, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
I don't see why it should take an act of the Senate to release a statement made from what I assume to be a private organization, but I suppose so. :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 28, 2012, 06:00:24 PM
No debate has occured on this for 24 hours.


Is a final vote desired?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: ilikeverin on May 28, 2012, 06:21:40 PM
I'm ready to shoot this down :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 30, 2012, 07:00:08 PM
A final vote is now open on this bill, Senators please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 30, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
NAY

Yes, I realize I will pay for this if everyone else does the same. :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Debating)
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 30, 2012, 07:02:39 PM
Abstain.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 30, 2012, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: Final Text
Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use

Findings-
Copying and pasting small type into the bar is far more difficult then highlighting white type- which achieves the same purpose

Resolution-
Section 1: The AARP- Atlasian Association of ReallyOld Persons- humbly requests that users take into account our aged and tired eyes by not using small type

Section 2: Small type shall be defined as type smaller than 5 pt.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: AndrewTX on May 30, 2012, 07:12:44 PM
NAY


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: ilikeverin on May 30, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
>:( Nope


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: tpfkaw on May 30, 2012, 07:51:21 PM
Nay.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
Nay


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 30, 2012, 10:10:35 PM
Abstain


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 31, 2012, 12:18:14 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: LastVoter on May 31, 2012, 06:20:04 PM
Abstain


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
Vote on final passage of the Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use:

Aye (1): Clarence
Nay (5): AndrewPA, Ben, ILV, NC Yankee and Wormyguy
Abstain (2): Scott and Seatown

Didn't Vote (2): sbane and TJ in Cleve

With two abstention, I beleive I can call 24 hours on this. So, this has enough votes to fail, senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

Though I would have prefered that the two AWOL Senators have voted on the matter so that I don't have to rely on such technicallities.



Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 03, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
I abstained. It wasn't a no vote FTR:



Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 10:53:14 PM
You know, the only reason they are treated differently, is because I altered the OSPR last year. :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to Discourage Small Type Use (Failed)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 04, 2012, 06:38:18 PM
Vote on final passage of the Resolution to Discourage Small Type Use:

Aye (1): Clarence
Nay (5): AndrewPA, Ben, ILV, NC Yankee, and Wormyguy
Abstain (3): Scott, Seatown, and TJ in Cleve

Didn't Vote (1): sbane

With five nays, one aye and three abstentions this has failed.