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Title: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: © tweed on May 27, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
glad to announce we have an avowed Marxist-Leninist on our hands -- this I can confirm after a small amount of research.  whatever comments the most of you may make, it is wonderful for the vibrancy of the Community to have a diversity of perspectives, rather than just a bunch of pussy liberals and suburban white libertarian teenagers duking it out over the Brady Bill.  welcome aboard, Comrade.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on May 27, 2012, 11:34:59 AM
You commie bastards!


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: dead0man on May 27, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
whatever comments the most of you may make, it is wonderful for the vibrancy of the Community to have a diversity of perspectives
Indeed, it is good to be reminded how stupid some ideologies are, less we forget.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on May 27, 2012, 11:44:10 AM
The name is probably a joke, given that it's an exact quote from the Simpsons (a gag where the USSR is re-created and Lenin comes back to life, uttering "MUST CRUSH CAPITALISM")


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: k-onmmunist on May 27, 2012, 01:31:07 PM
whatever comments the most of you may make, it is wonderful for the vibrancy of the Community to have a diversity of perspectives
Indeed, it is good to be reminded how stupid some ideologies are, less we forget.

We already have plenty of people doing that for libertarianism, why not have a few for communism too!


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2012, 01:35:26 PM
whatever comments the most of you may make, it is wonderful for the vibrancy of the Community to have a diversity of perspectives
Indeed, it is good to be reminded how stupid some ideologies are, less we forget.

We already have plenty of people doing that for libertarianismsocial conservatism, why not have a few for communism too!


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: k-onmmunist on May 27, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
whatever comments the most of you may make, it is wonderful for the vibrancy of the Community to have a diversity of perspectives
Indeed, it is good to be reminded how stupid some ideologies are, less we forget.

We already have plenty of people doing that for libertarianismsocial conservatism, why not have a few for communism too!

That too.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 27, 2012, 01:36:21 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: dead0man on May 27, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.
When they find out he's a sock/troll or gets all "insulty" when people bring facts up...yeah, you're probably right.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Joe Republic on May 27, 2012, 02:03:14 PM
He ain't a sock - we already checked.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 27, 2012, 02:55:54 PM
http://zombielenin.ytmnd.com/


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Free Palestine on May 27, 2012, 03:46:27 PM
Wonderful!


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Simfan34 on May 27, 2012, 04:14:16 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.

Probably, yeah.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.

Well this is quite an interesting introduction thread. :P Is this site all that ban-happy? It doesn't give that impression anyway.

Yeah, I'm a Marxist... leaning ML, I suppose. I was introduced to this site by a friend who used to post here. Electoral jew. I'm not a sock.

And yes the name is a Simpsons reference.

So... yeah. Hi.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Free Palestine on May 27, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.

Well this is quite an interesting introduction thread. :P Is this site all that ban-happy? It doesn't give that impression anyway.

Yeah, I'm a Marxist... leaning ML, I suppose. I was introduced to this site by a friend who used to post here. Electoral jew. I'm not a sock.

And yes the name is a Simpsons reference.

So... yeah. Hi.

People are banned for just annoying the mods.

Hello there.  I'm a left-anarchist of some sort, so we probably disagree more than a libertarian and a freeper.  But, it is nice to have another commie here.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: patrick1 on May 27, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
Apparently The Revolution begins from unfinished basements in Long Island.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 09:31:46 PM
People are banned for just annoying the mods.

Hello there.  I'm a left-anarchist of some sort, so we probably disagree more than a libertarian and a freeper.  But, it is nice to have another commie here.

That's perfectly alright, it's still awesome to see other left-wingers around. I get on fine with anarcho-coms, more so than the center-left or right, anyway, lol.

So I'm imagining there aren't many Marxists here?

Apparently The Revolution begins from unfinished basements in Long Island.

;) You know it.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Lief 🗽 on May 27, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
They'll probably find some reason to ban him soon.

Well this is quite an interesting introduction thread. :P Is this site all that ban-happy? It doesn't give that impression anyway.

Yeah, I'm a Marxist... leaning ML, I suppose. I was introduced to this site by a friend who used to post here. Electoral jew. I'm not a sock.

And yes the name is a Simpsons reference.

So... yeah. Hi.

Generally people whose views don't fit into a narrow band of inoffensive "moderate" bourgeois neoliberalism (whether because they are too far right or too far left) are hunted down and banned. Also you're not allowed to criticize the Mormon religion, but all others are for some reason fair game.

Otherwise this forum's pretty cool.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
Apparently The Revolution begins from unfinished basements in Long Island.

And the R[ƎVO˩]UTION! begins in a House district south and southwest of Houston and north/west of Galveston (TX-14). Revolutions typically have inauspicious beginnings, ya know (like, say, a fruit vendor lighting himself on fire).


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
Generally people whose views don't fit into a narrow band of inoffensive "moderate" bourgeois neoliberalism (whether because they are too far right or too far left) are hunted down and banned.
Probably good to know.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Bacon King on May 27, 2012, 09:37:10 PM
Welcome to the forum!


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Frodo on May 27, 2012, 09:37:28 PM
I did not realize Migrendel  (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=13)had offspring...  


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 27, 2012, 09:39:14 PM

So I'm imagining there aren't many Marxists here?


I accept and work from a Marxist critique in several areas, such as alienation of labor, and I'm more than willing to accept the term Marxist to refer to elements of my general outlook, but my preferred policy prescriptions are somewhat...well, they're more Ruskin and Morris than Lenin and Trotsky. I imagine I'm some flavor of vile revisionist by the standards of most Marxists.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Mikado on May 27, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Welcome aboard.

As you can tell by the amount of your comrades greeting you, this site is nowhere near as ban-happy as they're claiming.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2012, 09:49:58 PM
As you can tell by the amount of your comrades greeting you, this site is nowhere near as ban-happy as they're claiming.

Probably just blowback from the Jmfcst incident.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Probably just blowback from the Jmfcst incident.
Jmfcst incident?

You make this forum seem incredibly dramatic. :P


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 27, 2012, 10:02:25 PM
Probably just blowback from the Jmfcst incident.
Jmfcst incident?

You make this forum seem incredibly dramatic. :P

It can be. jmfcst (sic) was a very long-standing, very controversial but more loved than hated right-wing member from Texas who was notable chiefly for his firm devotion to conservative Evangelical Christianity, his unusually and sometimes maddeningly high degree of intellectual seriousness about said devotion, and his mostly pretty good sense of humor. He was banned very recently after spending a very long time trolling just enough not to get banned; apparently he felt that it was time.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 27, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
I echo everyone's messages of welcome :) I too am 15, but we differ greatly on economic issues :P Still, welcome :)


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
right-wing member from Texas who was notable chiefly for his firm devotion to conservative Evangelical Christianity

Uh oh, lol.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: © tweed on May 27, 2012, 10:26:04 PM
Apparently The Revolution begins from unfinished basements in Long Island.

are you next up?


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 27, 2012, 10:30:10 PM

The long-deserved eviction of our resident condescending, overbearing, intolerant fundamentalist firebrand, an incident about which I'm still not quite sure why everyone is so upset.

::) lay off him, will you. He meant well. Sure he was intolerant and a bigot, but he was nice and courteous. Jmfcst is to the Atlas Forum what Benjamin Franklin is to America.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on May 27, 2012, 10:31:14 PM

The long-deserved eviction of our resident condescending, overbearing, intolerant fundamentalist firebrand, an incident about which I'm still not quite sure why everyone is so upset.

::) lay off him, will you. He meant well. Sure he was intolerant and a bigot, but he was nice and courteous. Jmfcst is to the Atlas Forum what Benjamin Franklin is to America.

lolwut


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 27, 2012, 10:32:51 PM

The long-deserved eviction of our resident condescending, overbearing, intolerant fundamentalist firebrand, an incident about which I'm still not quite sure why everyone is so upset.

::) lay off him, will you. He meant well. Sure he was intolerant and a bigot, but he was nice and courteous. Jmfcst is to the Atlas Forum what Benjamin Franklin is to America.

lolwut

Let me rephrase that (as I'm about 40% awake rn)

Jmfcst is to Atlas Forum...well, he's just a pillar. He's a giant. He was one of the originals and him being gone...it just feels like something's missing. It's not right.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on May 27, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
No kidding. Be glad you arrived so soon after his deportation - he probably would have tried to burn you as a heretic.

It's usually easier to debate with religious conservatives than libertarians and liberals.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on May 27, 2012, 10:37:22 PM
No kidding. Be glad you arrived so soon after his deportation - he probably would have tried to burn you as a heretic.

It's usually easier to debate with religious conservatives than libertarians and liberals.

First, I'd be interested to hear why you think this.

Second, it was actually a lot harder than you'd think to debate jmfcst, mainly because the internal (emphasis on internal) coherence of his worldview was absolutely merciless.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: patrick1 on May 27, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Apparently The Revolution begins from unfinished basements in Long Island.

are you next up?

If it helps the Mets to keep winning with a bunch of no names, I will sing every verse of L' Internationale and Joe Hill for good measure.

More to the point though, Ive met and am friends with a lot of young, idealist lefties. The years set in and pedestrian careers follow. Dentists, Lawyers, and fund accountants.

-edit. Mind you these are good and prosperous careers, however, not exactly fighting the power.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Donerail on May 27, 2012, 10:45:34 PM

The long-deserved eviction of our resident condescending, overbearing, intolerant fundamentalist firebrand, an incident about which I'm still not quite sure why everyone is so upset.

::) lay off him, will you. He meant well. Sure he was intolerant and a bigot, but he was nice and courteous. Jmfcst is to the Atlas Forum what Benjamin Franklin is to America.

lolwut

Let me rephrase that (as I'm about 40% awake rn)

Jmfcst is to Atlas Forum...well, he's just a pillar. He's a giant. He was one of the originals and him being gone...it just feels like something's missing. It's not right.

Far too tired to credit it properly or even make sure it's right, but roughly: "jmfcst was a bigot. But he was our bigot." The jmfcst has been around since ever.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Mikado on May 27, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Stop hijacking our welcome thread for the new guy.  He might think we're inhospitable.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: The Mikado on May 27, 2012, 10:54:44 PM
OK, final warning.  If you want to talk about jmf, there are threads devoted to him all over the forum.  This is not the place.  This is the place to welcome our new friend.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Oakvale on May 27, 2012, 11:37:31 PM
Why is this thread about jmfscst suddenly?

Also, why is this thread?


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: ej2mm15 on May 28, 2012, 12:04:27 AM

Good point


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 28, 2012, 02:04:33 AM
Marxists are a persecuted minority on this forum in the same way that Christians are a persecuted minority in America.


Title: Re: MustCrushCapitalism
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on May 28, 2012, 02:11:25 AM
Marxists are a persecuted minority on this forum in the same way that Christians are a persecuted minority in America.

     So the forum is 80% Marxist? It's more left-wing than the left-wingers will admit, but I wouldn't go that far. :P