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Title: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 20, 2012, 06:14:42 PM
Three days.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Frodo on July 20, 2012, 06:17:04 PM
Jesse Johnson looks like the only non-conservative candidate in this lineup. 


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Miles on July 20, 2012, 06:18:23 PM
Manchin (normal)


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Goldwater on July 20, 2012, 06:35:35 PM
Manchin.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario) on July 20, 2012, 06:59:28 PM
Jesse Johnson looks like the only non-conservative candidate in this lineup. 


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 20, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
Johnson.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 20, 2012, 07:02:59 PM
Probably Manchin.

Raese comparing smoking restrictions to the Holocaust was just a bit too much for me when Manchin is a socially moderate Democrat who seems to actually vote that way.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on July 20, 2012, 07:08:31 PM
Jesse Johnson


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Free Palestine on July 20, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Is Jesse Johnson actually that leftist, or is he just leftist for West Virginia (i.e. not that much)?

Also, I hate these because I always forget about them before the results are in.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: RogueBeaver on July 20, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
Manchin. Raese is an unelectable perennial candidate and Manchin is the sort of Dem I'm comfortable voting at the state level.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 20, 2012, 10:39:22 PM
Manchin, reluctantly. I wouldn't give a US Senate seat to an unqualified activist, even if I agree with him on more issues.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 21, 2012, 12:19:52 AM
Manchin, though I would normally vote for the Constitution Party candidate.

Is Jesse Johnson actually that leftist, or is he just leftist for West Virginia (i.e. not that much)?

Also, I hate these because I always forget about them before the results are in.
Johnson campaigned for the Green Party nomination in 2008, so that makes him, in my opinion, a leftist.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Lambsbread on July 21, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
Joe Manchin.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Frodo on July 21, 2012, 01:17:19 PM


So you would still support Manchin even if he is likely to switch parties the minute it looks as if the Republicans could take over the Senate? 


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Napoleon on July 21, 2012, 01:46:41 PM


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Dr. Cynic on July 21, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
Johnson


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Maxwell on July 21, 2012, 03:45:54 PM
Probably Becker, if not him, then Manchin. Raese is a loon.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 21, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Frodo on July 21, 2012, 04:04:20 PM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.

Joe Manchin is likely to switch parties in the event Republicans take over the Senate, but regardless of whether he is a Democrat or becomes a Republican, of the choices presented he is the best option West Virginia has.  And he would make a far better Republican than Raese.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Supersonic on July 21, 2012, 08:16:43 PM
Manchin.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Holmes on July 21, 2012, 09:29:03 PM
Johnson (sane) especially since hindsight is 20/20 and Machin was pathetic during the lame duck session in 2010, even so today.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: morgieb on July 22, 2012, 02:33:02 AM
Depends on the circumstances. I'll vote 3rd party this time but as Raese looked like he could actually win in 2010, probably Manchin unfortunately.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 22, 2012, 07:03:40 PM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.

Joe Manchin is likely to switch parties in the event Republicans take over the Senate

I'm not so sure about this. West Virginia really do like conservative Democrats. Why would Manchin join pretty pathetic thing statewide WV GOP is?


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Incipimus iterum on July 22, 2012, 07:18:22 PM
Manchin


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Frodo on July 22, 2012, 10:15:07 PM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.

Joe Manchin is likely to switch parties in the event Republicans take over the Senate

I'm not so sure about this. West Virginia really do like conservative Democrats. Why would Manchin join pretty pathetic thing statewide WV GOP is?

He wouldn't be the first pioneering southern Democrat to switch parties (see Thurmond, Strom), and considering everything he has said and done recently (and the fact that certain high-profile Republicans are supporting him), all the evidence is pointing in the direction of an opportunistic party switch.  That isn't to rule out Manchin becoming an independent, though...





Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Miles on July 23, 2012, 03:07:55 AM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.

Joe Manchin is likely to switch parties in the event Republicans take over the Senate

I'm not so sure about this. West Virginia really do like conservative Democrats. Why would Manchin join pretty pathetic thing statewide WV GOP is?

 That isn't to rule out Manchin becoming an independent, though...


Very true, though I firmly believe he will stick with the D's. He has taken a very postpartisan approach to legislating; he seems to direct his criticism at both parties.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: stegosaurus on July 23, 2012, 03:16:17 AM
I would have supported Raese, if he had not acted like a ignorant tool. That ad the Manchin campaign ran of him shooting the cap-and-trade bill to look more independent, or whatever he was going for, was hilariously repugnant and a dreadfully obvious pander worthy of populist scorn.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 23, 2012, 12:28:44 PM
In unlikely event of the race being close, Manchin. I'm not a fan of him, but demonizing him by many Democrats is kind of annoying. It's almost always better to have a Blue Dog Democrat than Mr. Generic Republican, especially as dumb as Raese.

Otherwise, I'd vote for Johnson.

Joe Manchin is likely to switch parties in the event Republicans take over the Senate

I'm not so sure about this. West Virginia really do like conservative Democrats. Why would Manchin join pretty pathetic thing statewide WV GOP is?

He wouldn't be the first pioneering southern Democrat to switch parties (see Thurmond, Strom), and considering everything he has said and done recently (and the fact that certain high-profile Republicans are supporting him), all the evidence is pointing in the direction of an opportunistic party switch.  That isn't to rule out Manchin becoming an independent, though...

And why would he do that? That's even dumber scenario than him becoming a Republican.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 23, 2012, 10:06:23 PM
Surprising performance for Becker.


Title: Re: West Virginia Senate Election, 2010
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on July 30, 2012, 08:12:58 AM
Raese.