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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 20, 2012, 10:49:48 PM



Title: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 20, 2012, 10:49:48 PM
In 2008, Nader's best state was...Arkansas, with 1.19% of the vote. Given that Arkansas is not known as a leftist hotbed or an environmentalist hub, this seems rather random. Any ideas?


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Miles on July 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
A lot of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: memphis on July 20, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
A lot very small number of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 21, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Miles on July 21, 2012, 12:16:19 AM
A lot very small number of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.

Obama only won 77% of Democrats there; that's a still pretty big portion of Democrats defecting, regardless if they voted for McCain or Nader.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: bgwah on July 21, 2012, 01:01:32 AM
PUMAs!!!111


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Joe Republic on July 21, 2012, 11:40:22 AM
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 21, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: bgwah on July 21, 2012, 01:03:12 PM
And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Zioneer on July 21, 2012, 05:03:58 PM
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.

Maine also had a Green legislator, John Eder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Eder).


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Joe Republic on July 22, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
Maine also had a Green legislator, John Eder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Eder).

They still kind of do, in Ben Chipman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Chipman), who despite being elected as an independent in 2010, has long been active in the ME Greens and was also Eder's aide for four years.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: SPC on July 22, 2012, 02:53:58 PM
And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.

Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama. :P


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on July 22, 2012, 06:23:47 PM
And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.

Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama. :P

Her name sounds white, though.


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: solarstorm on July 24, 2012, 05:19:56 PM
Everybody's talking about PUMA.
But who or what is that ominous PUMA? ???


Title: Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
Post by: morgieb on July 24, 2012, 05:33:16 PM
Everybody's talking about PUMA.
But who or what is that ominous PUMA? ???
PUMA - Party Unity My Ass.

aka butthurt Hillary voters.