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Title: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on August 16, 2012, 12:13:40 AM
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http://reed.edu/earlyvoting/calendar

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: greenforest32 on August 16, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
Any forecasts on what percent of the total vote(s) will be done in September and October?


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: Tender Branson on August 16, 2012, 12:31:06 AM
North Carolina starts exactly in 3 weeks on September 6/7.

Which is right after Obama's speech at the DNC (which is also held in NC).

So, if Obama got a bounce from the DNC, it should show up in the early absentee voting numbers.

Even though Obama's NC absentee numbers from 2008 will be very hard to beat ...

51% of NC early votes were Dems, just 30% were Republicans.

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: Tender Branson on August 16, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
Any forecasts on what percent of the total vote(s) will be done in September and October?

Check out my link above.

I guess Prof. McDonald will create a 2012 page soon.


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: Tender Branson on August 16, 2012, 12:34:54 AM
In 2008, 60% of all voters in NC voted before Election Day.

So, we should definitely track the partsian composition of these early voters there.


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: Tender Branson on August 16, 2012, 12:39:43 AM
The partisan makeup of the NC voters hasn't changed much in the past 4 years.

In August 2008, 45% were Dems and 33% GOPers.

Now, 43% are Dems and 31% GOPers.


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: greenforest32 on August 16, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
Any forecasts on what percent of the total vote(s) will be done in September and October?

Check out my link above.

I guess Prof. McDonald will create a 2012 page soon.

Thanks. You can really see the dominance of vote by mail in Colorado there. I think they may become the third postal voting state.


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: King on August 16, 2012, 02:08:56 AM
Yet this election still feels dead in the water.


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 weeks ...
Post by: Tender Branson on August 26, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
The share of Blacks among NC registered voters has increased from 21% to 22% in the past 4 years. The share of Hispanics has increased from 1% to 2%.

I don't know if we get daily updates, but this will be interesting to watch.


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 weeks ...
Post by: krazen1211 on August 26, 2012, 09:46:47 AM
North Carolina is a state where the Democrats should feel confident in their voter registration. Same as Nevada, although there are many fewer Democrats in Clark County than October 2008 close of registration.


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 weeks ...
Post by: zorkpolitics on August 26, 2012, 05:57:49 PM
So many people will vote before the debates, and potentially before a possible Iran attack or other October events...

Call me old fashion but I think voting should be a national statement of opinion as of a single day or so (except for valid traditional absentee voting from people who cannot get to the polls on election day).

I would prefer a weekend vote with polls open 6 AM to 9 PM.


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 days ...
Post by: Tender Branson on September 04, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
Bump !

We should be able to track the daily absentee returns in NC, starting on Saturday or so. Maybe it takes a bit longer though for the ballots to be returned, so maybe some time next week.

But their site says:

Quote
General Election Absentee reports will be available after 09/07/2012.

http://www.ncsbe.gov


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 days ...
Post by: yourelection on September 04, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
I have a bit of a split opinion about absentee voting. It is, on the one side, important for those unable to go to a polling station. And you should have enough time to send your ballot in. On the other hand it spreads out the timespan where people are voting.

I definitely makes more sense to have elections on the weekend. No hassles about squeezing in a trip to the polling station for working people.

Europe does this. Still there is also a strong trend toward absentee voting in Europe as well.

All in all I would like to see more people actually going to the polls.


Title: Re: The election begins TODAY !!!
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
BUMP !

Absentee ballots are mailed out starting today in North Carolina.


Title: Re: The election begins TODAY !!!
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 07, 2012, 12:38:31 AM
Yeah, I'm all for making voting as easy as possible, but this voting two months before the actual election day business is nonsense.

On another note, New York doesn't have in-person early voting? What a dumb state I moved to.


Title: Re: The election begins TODAY !!!
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2012, 02:10:40 AM
Prof. Michael McDonald now has his 2012 early voting site up:

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Can any of the moderators sticky this please ?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: AndrewTX on September 07, 2012, 09:12:31 AM
Stickified


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2012, 09:13:48 AM

You actually unstickied it, because someone else already stickied it ... :P

Can you sticky it again, please ?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: AndrewTX on September 07, 2012, 09:26:21 AM
Psh, always my fault, isn't it?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2012, 01:32:20 PM
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The first mail ballots have been sent to North Carolina voters. As of Friday mid-morning, election officials have mailed 5,085 ballots to 17,724 voters who submitted requests.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-has-started_b_1864741.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on September 07, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
Is there a party breakdown for the requests? or just the mailed-in ballots at the tail end of the process?




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 08, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Is there a party breakdown for the requests? or just the mailed-in ballots at the tail end of the process?

I think they only track the returned ballots by party breakdown.

At the end of the early voting period it was about 51% D and 30% R in 2008.

So, we have to wait until the early voting period is over this year to make comparisons, because all the days will have different breakdowns.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on September 08, 2012, 06:08:09 AM
Absentee / by-mail voting, except for a few select groups, makes no sense whatsoever, has massive secrecy issues, and should be flat-out outlawed. By the SC if necessary.
Early voting has all its advantages and no such problems, though two months seems way excessive.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Sbane on September 08, 2012, 10:49:17 AM
Voting before the debates is silly. I think early voting should be restricted until the debates are done.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 08, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
And the first votes are cast.

North Carolina returned Military Absentees.

1 White Republican
1 Unaffiliated African American

ftp://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/enrs/absentee11xx06xx2012_counts_county.csv


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on September 08, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
So North Carolina is already tied!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Andrew on September 08, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
I think early voting should be restricted until the debates are done.
This might make sense if the debates included more than just the Republican and the Democrat.  What's the point of making people wait until they have more exposure to just two of their choices?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on September 09, 2012, 04:12:52 AM
If early voting is to ensure nobody may miss (or decide to skip) an election due to tight life schedules, seven days should suffice really. That would also still be close enough to the concept of a snapshot of the mood at one specific point.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Chaddyr23 on September 09, 2012, 05:14:06 AM
I have absolutely no problem with absentee ballots coming out early. Honestly the voters that request an absentee ballot that early are the ones that care to research the candidates on the ballot, I mean President isn't the ONLY one on it. I for one always request my ballot ahead of time and sit with it for at least a month as I go through and research the amendments and candidates and vote bit by bit. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Zanas on September 10, 2012, 05:59:49 AM
And how about organizing the election on a f***king Sunday so a large majority of people could actually vote that day ?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on September 10, 2012, 06:18:26 AM
And how about organizing the election on a f***king Sunday so a large majority of people could actually vote that day ?

Because that would be the opposite of what one major party wants.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 14, 2012, 01:31:57 AM
I would have thought there are more requests for absentee ballots in NC ...

So far, after 1 week, there are only 30.000 requests and 200 returned ballots.

Similar to 2008 numbers though. But I guess the bulk of requests will only come after the debates.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on September 15, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
NC thus far.



Party Reg   
Dem.   42.6%
Rep.   39.8%
None/Oth   17.6%
Age   
18-29   7.5%
30-44   16.8%
45-59   20.0%
60+   55.7%
Race   
White   78.4%
Black   16.3%
Hispanic   0.0%
Other/None   5.3%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 15, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
Krazen, what was the racial make-up of the absentee votes cast in 2008?  The black population is about 21%, so it is underrepresented so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on September 15, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
I read that Romney's early vote/Absentee strategy is to get his leaners and swing voters out and then save the firmer parts of his base for election day GOTV, while Obama is doing just the opposite. 


Title: Re: The election begins in 2 weeks ...
Post by: Politico on September 16, 2012, 02:22:48 AM
Call me old fashion but I think voting should be a national statement of opinion as of a single day or so (except for valid traditional absentee voting from people who cannot get to the polls on election day).

I would prefer a weekend vote with polls open 6 AM to 9 PM.

This.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Miles on September 16, 2012, 02:34:06 AM
Krazen, what was the racial make-up of the absentee votes cast in 2008?  The black population is about 21%, so it is underrepresented so far.

I can't find racial statistics, but Obama won 56% of absentee/one-stop voters in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on September 16, 2012, 08:35:59 AM
Krazen, what was the racial make-up of the absentee votes cast in 2008?  The black population is about 21%, so it is underrepresented so far.

It's both absentee and early voting.


2008   2004
Party
Dem
51.4%   48.6%
Rep
30.2%   37.4%
None
18.5%   14.1%

Age
18-29
14.9%   
30-44
23.5%   
45-64
40.2%   
65+
21.4%   

Race
White
69.2%   
Black
26.5%   
Other
4.3%   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on September 16, 2012, 10:27:10 AM
NC thus far.



Party Reg   
Dem.   42.6%
Rep.   39.8%
None/Oth   17.6%
Age   
18-29   7.5%
30-44   16.8%
45-59   20.0%
60+   55.7%
Race   
White   78.4%
Black   16.3%
Hispanic   0.0%
Other/None   5.3%



Is the stat above for ballots returned or requested? Also how many total ballots have been returned so far?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 16, 2012, 10:41:19 AM
Krazen, what was the racial make-up of the absentee votes cast in 2008?  The black population is about 21%, so it is underrepresented so far.

It's both absentee and early voting.


2008   2004
Party
Dem
51.4%   48.6%
Rep
30.2%   37.4%
None
18.5%   14.1%

Age
18-29
14.9%   
30-44
23.5%   
45-64
40.2%   
65+
21.4%   

Race
White
69.2%   
Black
26.5%   
Other
4.3%   

Thank you.

So far, those numbers do not look good for Obama.  The key phrase is, "so far."


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 16, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
WOW ! 300 ballots returned ! Out of 4.500.000 ! Resultz not looking good for Obama ! Democrats have only 4% advantage so far !


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 16, 2012, 07:18:59 PM
WOW ! 300 ballots returned ! Out of 4.500.000 ! Resultz not looking good for Obama ! Democrats have only 4% advantage so far !

It''s an early indication, which is why the key words are "so far."  It's not great, but it is something to watch, intensity. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on September 17, 2012, 01:33:51 AM
That's good (in a way). I want an exciting election night. If Obama wins North Carolina (or even comes very close to winning it), this thing is probably beyond over. If Romney wins it by a decent margin, we're probably in for a long night.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 19, 2012, 12:21:20 AM
More mail ballots in now in NC, but still only 1.300 so far, out of about 40.000 requested so far.

Prof. McDonald notes:

Quote
Returned Ballots

North Carolina election officials processed twice as many returned ballots on Monday as have been cast so far in the election, raising the number of returned ballots to 1,268.

More registered Democrats have returned mail ballots than registered Republicans, by 4.5 percentage points (43.3% to 38.8%).

In 2008, registered Republicans vastly outnumbered registered Democrats among all returned mail ballots, by 25.7 percentage points (53.7% to 30.0%).

These are "early" numbers, so the previous pattern where registered Republicans outnumber registered Democrats among mail ballots -- observed in many states -- may eventually reassert itself once more ballots are returned.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 19, 2012, 12:24:37 AM
Meanwhile, Kentucky and Indiana have started absentee voting on Monday and Wisconsin will start tomorrow. Just in time, after Mitt's "victim" remark ... :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 19, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
Cool Link to keep track of North Carolina Early Voting (with graphs and maps)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

And FWIW

Quote
In 2008, registered Republicans vastly outnumbered registered Democrats among all mail ballots -- not all early voters -- by 25.7 percentage points (53.7% to 30.0%).

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Michael on September 19, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
@Minnesota Mike

Cool indeed, thanks for sharing.
It's nice how you can vote offshore.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 19, 2012, 11:17:18 PM
Cool Link to keep track of North Carolina Early Voting (with graphs and maps)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

And FWIW

Quote
In 2008, registered Republicans vastly outnumbered registered Democrats among all mail ballots -- not all early voters -- by 25.7 percentage points (53.7% to 30.0%).

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Thanks for the link.  Krazen's voter numbers show that absentee/early voting was Democratic in 2004 and 2008




It's both absentee and early voting.


2008             2004
Party
Dem
51.4%   48.6%
Rep
30.2%   37.4%
None
18.5%   14.1%

Age
18-29
14.9%   
30-44
23.5%   
45-64
40.2%   
65+
21.4%   

Race
White
69.2%   
Black
26.5%   
Other
4.3%   

The source is here:  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

If this this continues, NC could be lost to Obama.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 20, 2012, 12:07:12 AM
Cool Link to keep track of North Carolina Early Voting (with graphs and maps)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

And FWIW

Quote
In 2008, registered Republicans vastly outnumbered registered Democrats among all mail ballots -- not all early voters -- by 25.7 percentage points (53.7% to 30.0%).

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Thanks for the link.  Krazen's voter numbers show that absentee/early voting was Democratic in 2004 and 2008




It's both absentee and early voting.


2008             2004
Party
Dem
51.4%   48.6%
Rep
30.2%   37.4%
None
18.5%   14.1%

Age
18-29
14.9%   
30-44
23.5%   
45-64
40.2%   
65+
21.4%   

Race
White
69.2%   
Black
26.5%   
Other
4.3%   

The source is here:  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

If this this continues, NC could be lost to Obama.

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on September 21, 2012, 12:41:17 AM
ah, the problem with these sorts of things.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 21, 2012, 12:45:02 AM
8 more states to start early voting today. WI started yesterday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 22, 2012, 12:23:17 PM
Iowa absentee ballot requests so far:

Total: 153,542

Democratic: 103,200
No Party: 32,918
Republican: 17,282
Other: 142

No joke ... ;)

http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2012/general/absenteestats.pdf

A state GOP official smiled at the numbers, saying: "The Democrats always vote early in huge numbers since at least 2004 ..."


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on September 22, 2012, 01:10:17 PM
Iowa absentee ballot requests so far:

Total: 153,542

Democratic: 103,200
No Party: 32,918
Republican: 17,282
Other: 142

No joke ... ;)

http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2012/general/absenteestats.pdf

A state GOP official smiled at the numbers, saying: "The Democrats always vote early in huge numbers since at least 2004 ..."
Do you have comparison figures on that?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 22, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
The numbers seem to be up for Democrats compared with 2008:

Quote
Monday, September 29, 2008

Five weeks before Election Day, Barack Obama likely has a lead of more than 30,000 votes in Iowa, based on absentee ballot requests. But Democrats will need to continue their early voting blitz--they won the early vote in 2004 only to lose by a bigger margin on Election Day.

Through Thursday, the first day of in-person early voting, there were 62,024 absentee requests statewide from Democrats and 18,558 from-republicans. People not affiliated with a party have made 23,460 requests, and another 35 are from Greens and Libertarians.
http://jdeeth.blogspot.co.at/2008_09_01_archive.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2012, 01:32:53 PM
The voting Blitz strategy sounds fun, but wouldn't it backfire at the end because it would encourage the other party to work harder on gathering votes?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on September 22, 2012, 01:37:36 PM
The voting Blitz strategy sounds fun, but wouldn't it backfire at the end because it would encourage the other party to work harder on gathering votes?

Um, I think both sides are already motivated to gather as many votes as possible.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Michael on September 22, 2012, 01:49:18 PM
The voting Blitz strategy sounds fun, but wouldn't it backfire at the end because it would encourage the other party to work harder on gathering votes?

Um, I think both sides are already motivated to gather as many votes as possible.

That is true, but when people see that their opponents are doing better so far, they tend to work even harder to compete. Oh wait a minute, maybe this blitz is used to make the opponents to panic, and then probably make mistakes that would be scorned. Brilliant! : D


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 12:18:36 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Politico on September 28, 2012, 12:35:10 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

I was mocked here just the other day for saying that NC was a virtual lock already.

Also, it's incredible that some Democrats think they should make a play for AZ or MT given all of the information coming out of everywhere other than IA, which may be tainted by the Chicago Way...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 28, 2012, 12:35:11 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

It was the same in 2008: Of all early voters, just 10% were mail-in ballots (those were strongly GOP back then too, says Prof. McDonald). But of the 90% who later voted in person, the overwhelming majority was DEM. These numbers will dramatically change over the next month in favor of Democrats.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Politico on September 28, 2012, 12:38:35 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

It was the same in 2008: Of all early voters, just 10% were mail-in ballots (those were strongly GOP back then too, says Prof. McDonald). But of the 90% who later voted in person, the overwhelming majority was DEM. These numbers will dramatically change over the next month in favor of Democrats.

Sure. Can you explain again exactly what all of those extra field offices are doing for Obama? I mean, just the other day we were hearing about how the extra field offices would triumph over the efforts of the Romney camp, especially when it comes to early voting...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on September 28, 2012, 06:21:09 AM
Obama has lead in just about every recent North Carolina poll. If you seriously think it's completely locked down for Romney, you're an idiot. Period.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 08:25:33 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

It was the same in 2008: Of all early voters, just 10% were mail-in ballots (those were strongly GOP back then too, says Prof. McDonald). But of the 90% who later voted in person, the overwhelming majority was DEM. These numbers will dramatically change over the next month in favor of Democrats.

It wasR +20 in 2008, from what you posted.  This is now running R +25.  Now, obviously, that can change.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 28, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
After the first day of early voting in IA, Democratic turnout is huge in Polk, Iowa's biggest county:

Quote
The first day of early voting in Polk County was busier than ever for election staff.

By 4 p.m., 550 people had cast ballots at the Polk County Election Office. In 2008, 100 people voted on the first day but that number had been far eclipsed by 11 a.m.

Of those, 401 were registered Democrats, 90 were Republicans, 57 had no party affiliation and two were affiliated with other parties, said Polk County Auditor Jamie Fitzgerald.

He could not say who people had actually voted for.

After an initial two-hour rush when the polls opened at 8 a.m. that led to hour-long wait times and was largely a function of Obama campaign efforts, the office saw a steady stream of people throughout the day, Fitzgerald said.

The first ballots are in, and judging from the myriad of Obama stickers, buttons, signs and campaign volunteers enthusiastically trawling down the line in front of the election office, in Polk County most of the ballots so far were for President Barack Obama.

But don’t be fooled, said GOP representatives. Two hours on the first day of early voting won’t necessarily be representative of the 40 days of early voting or the general election.


And a push to get Mitt Romney voters to the polls is coming.

Still, several people waiting outside the Polk County Election Office Thursday morning said they wanted to make a statement with their votes.

“It’s a wonderful opportunity to be out, to cast a vote for the president and to say we’re with him and that he’s doing a great job,” said Mary Madison of Des Moines, who was a delegate at the Democratic National Convention.

Madison, who was wearing two Obama buttons, said she usually makes a point of going to the polls on election day but was fed up with this year’s campaign tactics.

“This makes a statement,” she said. “I’m willing to do that.”

By about 11 a.m., Polk County Auditor Jamie Fitzgerald estimated about 200-225 people had cast votes. During the 2008 election, the office saw just 100 ballots cast the entire first day of early voting.

No breakdown of the votes was available yet.

It took voters an average of 55 minutes from the moment they stepped into the office to cast their vote and leave, Fitzgerald said. But he heard no complaints and everything ran smoothly.

Most of the people in the line that stretched down the block before the polls even opened said they had been invited by volunteers on the phone to meet at a nearby coffee shop and walk to the polls together.

The first voters started lining up around 7:15 a.m. and most of the group members were in the office’s doors by 10 a.m., though Fitzgerald said a line had formed again an hour later.

Mark Cooper, who wore no Obama bling but sported a union name on his sweatshirt was first in line.

Cooper didn’t have much to say about being first in the county to vote – it was “no big deal,” he said – but more to say about why he was supporting Obama. And he said the turnout, while expected, was “great.”

“I think we need to open up the election process and make it as easy to vote as possible,” Cooper said.

Democrats have an advantage in absentee ballots requested by mail in both Polk County and statewide.

The Polk County Auditor’s Office is mailing 30,615 ballots Thursday morning. Of those, 20,810 were requested by Democrats, 4,024 by registered Republicans, 5,729 by voters with no party affiliation and 42 by people registered to other parties.

Statewide, as of Monday, Democrats had requested 109,709 absentee ballots while Republicans requested 20,458.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120927/NEWS/120927016/1007/news05

:)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 28, 2012, 10:24:43 AM
Cuyahoga County (Ohio) ballot requests so far:

87,375 Democrats (54%)
38,515 Republicans (24%)
35,817 Indies (22%)

161,707 Total

2008: 69-30 Obama (overall result)

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/AbsenteeVoterbyCityReport11062012.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: ajb on September 28, 2012, 10:49:27 AM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

It was the same in 2008: Of all early voters, just 10% were mail-in ballots (those were strongly GOP back then too, says Prof. McDonald). But of the 90% who later voted in person, the overwhelming majority was DEM. These numbers will dramatically change over the next month in favor of Democrats.

This is supported by the NBC/Marist poll of NC, which says that among those intending to vote early, Obama leads Romney 57-41.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/28/14137872-first-thoughts-after-nine-battleground-polls?lite

This, by the way, is one of the reasons Obama leads in the number of field offices he has. If, like the Republicans, you focus on mail-in ballots, then you don't need much personal contact with voters. But if you want to make sure they get to the polls early, that personal contact comes in handy.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on September 28, 2012, 12:37:12 PM
Cuyahoga County (Ohio) ballot requests so far:

87,375 Democrats (54%)
38,515 Republicans (24%)
35,817 Indies (22%)

161,707 Total

2008: 69-30 Obama (overall result)

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/AbsenteeVoterbyCityReport11062012.pdf

Very important note on the Ohio numbers: Ohio does not have party registration.  Party breakdowns are calculated based on primary election ballot requests.  That is, if someone voted in the GOP primary this year, they are a Republican for purposes of this count.  If someone voted in the Dem primary, they are counted as a Democrat.  The same goes for the 2008 counts to which this data is being compared.

Of course, the 2012 Dem primary and 2008 GOP primary were uncontested in Ohio.   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 12:46:58 PM

You are confusing early mail-in ballots (which were a small number, that voted GOP+20) and "later" early and absentee voting (which was ca. 2.5 Million voters, that voted Obama+21).

You have to compare these early numbers now with the GOP+20 number from 2008, as Prof. Michael McDonald notes.

In terms of NC ballot requests the numbers are:

Party Reg    
Dem    26.7%
Rep    52.8%
None/Oth    20.5%

They have about 10% back with about 50/32 R/D

It was the same in 2008: Of all early voters, just 10% were mail-in ballots (those were strongly GOP back then too, says Prof. McDonald). But of the 90% who later voted in person, the overwhelming majority was DEM. These numbers will dramatically change over the next month in favor of Democrats.

Those 10%, according to you, were +20 Republican.  So far, these are +25.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on September 28, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
J.J., why are you posting this twice ?

And why are you getting giddy with excitement over a 5-point gain for Republicans among 70.000 mail-in ballot requests, out of 2.800.000 expected early votes, that will swing in massive numbers to Obama once early in-person voting starts ?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 04:36:47 PM
J.J., why are you posting this twice ?

And why are you getting giddy with excitement over a 5-point gain for Republicans among 70.000 mail-in ballot requests, out of 2.800.000 expected early votes, that will swing in massive numbers to Obama once early in-person voting starts ?

I'm looking at trends to compare with 2008, as a measure of enthusiasm.  So far, in what was a close state, the numbers seem better.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: nhmagic on September 28, 2012, 05:32:33 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Lookin good for us folks!  A breakdown summary from Jay Cost:

Hamilton (Cincinnati) is just under 2:1 Rs, a net gain of just under 7 points for the Republicans over 08.

Franklin (Columbus) which went for Obama by 21(!) shows a very small but steadily increasing R lead in total votes (+5893) for a significant swing (+9 over 08 absentees, +26 overall for Rs).

Summit: important county near Cleveland, 1/4m voters, went for Obama by almost 18 points: Rs only 1300 back in total votes, or 5% difference (in 08 they lost by almost three to one).

Hardin: GOP had a 1400-1100 lead in 08. It's already three to one Rs, and about one third of total GOP ballots are in. Dems down in total requests by 2500 (!)

Logan: no 2008 data (McCain won by 26.5) Rs up four to one.

Pickaway: Rs up almost two to one---lost by 1000 absentee votes in 08 but went overall for McCain by 21.5.

Washington: Rs up two to one, absentees in 08 were three to two (McCain won by 15.5).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 28, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 28, 2012, 06:09:04 PM
weeee


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 28, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.

Don't ruin it for them, they are having so much fun.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: nhmagic on September 28, 2012, 06:14:51 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.

This isnt registration, its early and absentee ballot returns for the GENERAL ELECTION.  You don't have to vote in a primary to request an absentee ballot.  This was a measure of Obama's enthusiasm in 08. It is now a measure of republican enthusiasm in 2012.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 28, 2012, 06:17:59 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 28, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
Iowa

Returned- 13.812

Dem- 64%
Rep- 19%
Other- 17%

Requested- 203,081

Dem- 63%
Rep- 15%
Other 22%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: nhmagic on September 28, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.
Yeah, but if you're a democrat in 2008, and you dont vote in 2010, that still means youre registered as a democrat in 2012 by that standard.  They don't just reregister your party as an unaffiliated voter.  You have to request an absentee ballot to get one, which means that democrats still aren't requesting ballots at the rate republicans are.  That means enthusiasm is down.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 06:37:30 PM
Iowa

Returned- 13.812

Dem- 64%
Rep- 19%
Other- 17%

Requested- 203,081

Dem- 63%
Rep- 15%
Other 22%

Which was also high in 2008.  I'm looking for the difference, positive or negative, over 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on September 28, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.
Yeah, but if you're a democrat in 2008, and you dont vote in 2010, that still means youre registered as a democrat in 2012 by that standard.  They don't just reregister your party as an unaffiliated voter.  You have to request an absentee ballot to get one, which means that democrats still aren't requesting ballots at the rate republicans are.  That means enthusiasm is down.

No.  It doesn't reach back to 2008.  Ohio party affiliation is calculated going back 2 years, so 2010 and 2012 primaries count, 2008 does not.

"(3) That the person is not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote. Such party affiliation shall be determined by examining the elector’s voting record for the current year and the immediately preceding two calendar years as shown on the voter’s registration card, using the standards of affiliation specified in the seventh paragraph of section 3513.05 of the Revised Code."

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.19

If you didn't vote in the D primary in 2010 or 2012, you aren't considered a Democrat in Ohio.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 28, 2012, 06:51:59 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.
Yeah, but if you're a democrat in 2008, and you dont vote in 2010, that still means youre registered as a democrat in 2012 by that standard.  They don't just reregister your party as an unaffiliated voter.  You have to request an absentee ballot to get one, which means that democrats still aren't requesting ballots at the rate republicans are.  That means enthusiasm is down.

I think there are a lot of people in Ohio like me, I plan on voting straight Democratic in November but since there were no competitive races on the Democratic side where I live I voted in the Republican Primary.

BTW wasn't Ohio one of Rush's Operation Chaos states in 2008? Lots of ditto heads voted for Hillary and were officially classified as Democrats.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on September 28, 2012, 06:55:13 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.
Yeah, but if you're a democrat in 2008, and you dont vote in 2010, that still means youre registered as a democrat in 2012 by that standard.  They don't just reregister your party as an unaffiliated voter.  You have to request an absentee ballot to get one, which means that democrats still aren't requesting ballots at the rate republicans are.  That means enthusiasm is down.

No.  It doesn't reach back to 2008.  Ohio party affiliation is calculated going back 2 years, so 2010 and 2012 primaries count, 2008 does not.

"(3) That the person is not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote. Such party affiliation shall be determined by examining the elector’s voting record for the current year and the immediately preceding two calendar years as shown on the voter’s registration card, using the standards of affiliation specified in the seventh paragraph of section 3513.05 of the Revised Code."

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.19

If you didn't vote in the D primary in 2010 or 2012, you aren't considered a Democrat in Ohio.


Well Done


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on September 28, 2012, 09:33:27 PM
Quote
Under Ohio election law, you can change your political party at a Primary Election only.  This is done by requesting the ballot type for the political party with which you wish to be affiliated.  Ohio Revised Code Section 3513.19, .20.

If you do not want to be affiliated with a political party in Ohio, you are considered to be an unaffiliated voter.  An unaffiliated voter, which is identified by some people as an “independent voter”, may only vote an Official Questions and Issues Ballot, if there are any present, for your precinct on Primary Election Day.  Unaffiliated or Independent voters can vote for candidates and issues in a General Election.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/en-US/declareorchangeparty.aspx

Now, one explanation for those numbers is that all the polls are wrong and Democratic enthusiasm is down massively. Or the other is that there are fewer "registered Democrats" this year because all being a "registered Democrat" means in Ohio is that you voted in the last Democratic primary.
Yeah, but if you're a democrat in 2008, and you dont vote in 2010, that still means youre registered as a democrat in 2012 by that standard.  They don't just reregister your party as an unaffiliated voter.  You have to request an absentee ballot to get one, which means that democrats still aren't requesting ballots at the rate republicans are.  That means enthusiasm is down.

Since you either missed or ignored the past time I made this challenge, NHMagic, I'm officially calling you out. The offer below is extended to you.

POLITICO!!!

There, now that I have your attention....:)

You talked about "talking the talk, but not walking the walk". I am MORE than happy to give you the chance.

Try to be more a statatician then a zealot in analyzing elections, and I think that's your shortcoming here.

I willing to bet you the outcome of any current 08 Obama state at $5 each EXCEPT CO & FL & NC; I'll also give you 5-8 odds on OH, VA, IA, NH and WI (yes, I'm excluding NV from that list) and 2-1 odds on any other Obama 08 states.

I'll be glad to give you 3-2 odds on a $20 bet over the entire election as well. Alternatively, we can bet the other having to bare a (non-TOS violating) sig of the other's choice until Inauguration Day.

Time to walk the walk, Mr. Optomist........


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: dspNY on September 28, 2012, 10:28:29 PM
According to the US Elections Project, North Carolina stands like this:

10,596 absentee ballots banked

Dem: 30.9%
GOP: 50.2%
Ind: 19.0%

Don't remember what the absentee ballots looked like in 2008 out of North Carolina, but I think they were also around 20% in favor of the GOP, so the Dems are keeping pace here


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on September 28, 2012, 10:33:49 PM
According to the US Elections Project, North Carolina stands like this:

10,596 absentee ballots banked

Dem: 30.9%
GOP: 50.2%
Ind: 19.0%

Don't remember what the absentee ballots looked like in 2008 out of North Carolina, but I think they were also around 20% in favor of the GOP, so the Dems are keeping pace here

Those are the ones returned so far and that number has been creeping up.  The applications, are running at about a 26% increase.  I'll add the words, so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on September 28, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.

Don't ruin it for them, they are having so much fun.

Heh, I'm a registered Democrat in Ohio so that should clearly demonstrate the limitations of using party registration.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Sbane on September 28, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
I voted in the Republican primary in 2010 and 2012. That means I am going to vote for Romney, right guys?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: RI on September 29, 2012, 01:46:50 PM
I voted in the Republican primary in 2010 and 2012. That means I am going to vote for Romney, right guys?

I caucused for Santorum this year, but I'm definitely not voting for Romney.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on September 29, 2012, 03:00:17 PM
I think most of the Obama North Carolina early votes was cast "in-person" in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on October 01, 2012, 07:11:53 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.

Don't ruin it for them, they are having so much fun.

Heh, I'm a registered Democrat in Ohio so that should clearly demonstrate the limitations of using party registration.
Isn't Ohio an open primary state?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on October 01, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
Of course R's are going to be doing better. Ohio doesn't have party registration. Your "registration" is based on which primary you voted in. The Republicans had a contested presidential primary in Ohio; the Democrats had nothing to vote for.

Don't ruin it for them, they are having so much fun.

Heh, I'm a registered Democrat in Ohio so that should clearly demonstrate the limitations of using party registration.
Isn't Ohio an open primary state?

Yes. If you vote in a partisan primary, the state then counts you as registered for that party.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 02, 2012, 09:16:42 AM
NC Requested Ballots:

Dem    26,707    26.2%
Rep    54,329    53.3%
None/Oth    20,958    20.5%
Total    101,994    

NC Returned Ballots:

Party Reg    
Dem    29.6%
Rep    51.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

In 2008, it was about a 20 point gap.  So far, the Republican ballots are running at least  slightly higher by either measure.  Both numbers have been equal or better for the past week.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 02, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
I sent my Wisconsin ballot in a week ago!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 03, 2012, 12:05:07 AM
New SurveyUSA vote breakdown for NC:

Mail-in voters (7%): 58-39 Romney
Early in person voters (43%): 59-39 Obama
Election Day voters (48%): 53-41 Romney

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d3014bce-c607-464f-b452-de331971667d

The mail in advantage (R+20)  is what we currently see in the returns. Once the early in person voting starts Obama will get a huge boost and then Romney wins the election day voters. All in all, we'll only see on Nov. 7 who won the state.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Mister Twister on October 03, 2012, 12:15:07 AM
NC Requested Ballots:

Dem    26,707    26.2%
Rep    54,329    53.3%
None/Oth    20,958    20.5%
Total    101,994    

NC Returned Ballots:

Party Reg    
Dem    29.6%
Rep    51.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

In 2008, it was about a 20 point gap.  So far, the Republican ballots are running at least  slightly higher by either measure.  Both numbers have been equal or better for the past week.

So Romney is on track to win NC 50-49 so far?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 03, 2012, 07:53:29 AM
New SurveyUSA vote breakdown for NC:

Mail-in voters (7%): 58-39 Romney
Early in person voters (43%): 59-39 Obama
Election Day voters (48%): 53-41 Romney

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d3014bce-c607-464f-b452-de331971667d

The mail in advantage (R+20)  is what we currently see in the returns. Once the early in person voting starts Obama will get a huge boost and then Romney wins the election day voters. All in all, we'll only see on Nov. 7 who won the state.

When does early voting start?

As of yesterday, black turnout is 8.2%.

The current numbers are R +23 (well 22.9) in votes cast, with absentee requests at R +27, both as of yesterday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 03, 2012, 08:28:17 AM
Today's NC numbers:

Party Reg Ballot Requests
Dem 28,559 26.3%
Rep 57,516 53.0%
None/Oth 22,364 20.6%
Total 108,439


Actual votes (about 0.5% of 2008 numbers)

Party Reg 
Dem 28.8%
Rep 52.6%
None/Oth 18.6%
Age 
18-29 7.8%
30-44 10.4%
45-59 20.0%
60+ 61.7%
Race 
White 88.3%
Black 7.8%
Other/None 3.9%
Gender 
Female 55.9%
Male 43.4%
Unknown 0.7%

Requests closed a bit.  Actual ballots case increased a bit.  I'd guess that a batch of absentee ballots came in.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Politico on October 03, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
I think it's obvious that NC is in the Romney column.

Two down, four to go (i.e., IN/NC down, FL/VA/OH/Other to go).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: You kip if you want to... on October 03, 2012, 09:42:12 AM
I think it's obvious that NC is in the Romney column.

Erm, are you on crack?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nc/north_carolina_romney_vs_obama-1784.html#polls


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 03, 2012, 10:29:28 AM
I think it's obvious that NC is in the Romney column.

Erm, are you on crack?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nc/north_carolina_romney_vs_obama-1784.html#polls


We're looking at actual numbers, so far at any rate.  Republicans are performing better than in 2008, at least in NC.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Politico on October 03, 2012, 10:52:49 AM
I think it's obvious that NC is in the Romney column.

Erm, are you on crack?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nc/north_carolina_romney_vs_obama-1784.html#polls


We're looking at actual numbers, so far at any rate.  Republicans are performing better than in 2008, at least in NC.

This.

Plus, Obama only won the state by 0.32% while running on "hope and change" following a financial crisis (is "fear and smear" during an economic malaise really going to do the job this time?).

That aside, why in the world would I expect him to win it in 2012 if he is not even doing as well so far as he did at this point in 2008? Because some polls say otherwise? The actual numbers relative to 2008 are more indicative of what is going to happen than any poll. There is clearly something wrong with the polls when you look at actual voting patterns thus far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 03, 2012, 01:30:29 PM
Hahaha, Politico is really on crack.

He thinks NC is "in the bag" for Romney with 1% of the vote in.

If he'd look at the SUSA poll that shows Romney ahead by 58-39 among the EARLIEST in-person voters, then he'd shoot not so fast.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 04, 2012, 10:15:11 AM
Hahaha, Politico is really on crack.

He thinks NC is "in the bag" for Romney with 1% of the vote in.

If he'd look at the SUSA poll that shows Romney ahead by 58-39 among the EARLIEST in-person voters, then he'd shoot not so fast.

As of now, that poll is not matching what is happening on the ground.  That can change, but there is also the possibility that in NC, SUSA is underweighing Republican turnout, by 3-6 points.  So far, there is no evidence of a national trend, but it is in NC.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 04, 2012, 07:27:26 PM
Don't read to much into the North Carolina numbers so far. The average age of voters so far is 63 with more people in their 70's and 80's having cast ballots than people in there 20's and 30's.
This is largely the nursing home vote.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 04, 2012, 08:41:20 PM
Don't read to much into the North Carolina numbers so far. The average age of voters so far is 63 with more people in their 70's and 80's having cast ballots than people in there 20's and 30's.
This is largely the nursing home vote.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



However, comparing the early numbers in 2012 with the early numbers in 2008, it appears to be a 4-6 point GOP increase.  That is basically a turnout factor.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 04, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
Here are IA's request from 2008

http://okhenderson.com/2008/10/30/2008-absentee-ballot-numbers-in-iowa/

So far, in terms of requests democrats are running about 6 points higher than 2008, and Republicans are running about 3 points below where they were in 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: President von Cat on October 05, 2012, 06:06:47 AM
I voted absentee yesterday from China. Because I moved home before moving here, I had to register to vote in my home state of Massachusetts. Normally this would suck because Massachusetts is a foregone conclusion in elections these days, but the Senate race has been pretty compelling. I held my nose and voted for Warren, though I like Brown and hope he runs for governor in 2014.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 05, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
So far, OH absentee numbers are showing an increase in R percentage of the vote, though D are still leading.

2008

R:  19%

D:  32%

2012:

R:  24%

D:  30%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Because of how the count party affiliation, both these numbers are weak in terms of party ID.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 05, 2012, 06:57:15 PM
So far, OH absentee numbers are showing an increase in R percentage of the vote, though D are still leading.

2008

R:  19%

D:  32%

2012:

R:  24%

D:  30%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Because of how the count party affiliation, both these numbers are weak in terms of party ID.

Hard to make heads or tails of this. From what we have, I would say Democratic turnout is keeping pace with 2008(which is also supported by the Iowa numbers) while Republican turnout is up a bit. Some Republican voters in Ohio may well be Democrats who voted for Santorum in the Primary, especially in Cleveland where he did very well comparatively, but I suspect even with that they are seeing an increase. 30%(and rising due to the start of in-person) v. 32% for Democrats is probably all due to falling identification due to no primaries in 2010 or 2012.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 05, 2012, 08:45:12 PM
OH has a clearly greater portion of "Republicans" in the early voting in 2012 than in 2008 by about 7 points.  It is probably closer in terms of actual Romney supporter versus McCain supporters as well.  That might not be 7 points.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 05, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
The gap, in terms of ballot requests, in IA, is closing slightly.  R's are about two point below their 2008 return level.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 06, 2012, 09:30:29 AM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 06, 2012, 09:09:07 PM
In terms of absentees, OH just got a little closer.  It was +13 D in 2008, and it is now +5, and narrowing.

NC is holding at +25-26, up 5-6 points in terms of absentee ballots.

I think NC is probably going to shift to lean Romney.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 06, 2012, 09:22:11 PM
In terms of absentees, OH just got a little closer.  It was +13 D in 2008, and it is now +5, and narrowing.

NC is holding at +25-26, up 5-6 points in terms of absentee ballots.

I think NC is probably going to shift to lean Romney.

Ohio is an apples to oranges comparison. Since there is no real party registration you can't really make a valid comparison to 2008.

As for NC we only have about 0.6% of the vote in, way to early to project anything.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 06, 2012, 09:32:07 PM
In terms of absentees, OH just got a little closer.  It was +13 D in 2008, and it is now +5, and narrowing.

NC is holding at +25-26, up 5-6 points in terms of absentee ballots.

I think NC is probably going to shift to lean Romney.

Ohio is an apples to oranges comparison. Since there is no real party registration you can't really make a valid comparison to 2008.


I've made that point before, but the bulk of the Republicans are really Republicans; that closing, from 2008 is substantial.

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As for NC we only have about 0.6% of the vote in, way to early to project anything.
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No, the amount is equal to 0.6% of the turnout in 2008.  The absentees accounted for about 8% of the vote.  Further, comparing the requests from 2008 with today's numbers, there is still a 5-6 point gap.

We have a lower turnout and a significantly more GOP electorate in NC.  So far, the black voters have represented a smaller portion of the electorate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 06, 2012, 09:37:10 PM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.

Party Registration numbers in the South can be deceiving. How much of that 80,000 Dem decline is actually Obama voters? How much is Blue Dogs who voted for McCain? To me the more interesting numbers are the registered voters broken down by race. Total voter registration is up by about 244,000 and about 175,000 of that is minority voters.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 06, 2012, 09:46:23 PM
Quote
We have a lower turnout and a significantly more GOP electorate in NC.  So far, the black voters have represented a smaller portion of the electorate.

We don't know that. The starting and election days don't match up exactly but we have actually have more ballots returned so far this cycle than on this date in 2008.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1223190000/



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 06, 2012, 09:49:47 PM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.

Party Registration numbers in the South can be deceiving. How much of that 80,000 Dem decline is actually Obama voters? How much is Blue Dogs who voted for McCain? To me the more interesting numbers are the registered voters broken down by race. Total voter registration is up by about 244,000 and about 175,000 of that is minority voters.

And there, turnout seems to be substantially lower.

Quote
We have a lower turnout and a significantly more GOP electorate in NC.  So far, the black voters have represented a smaller portion of the electorate.

We don't know that. The starting and election days don't match up exactly but we have actually have more ballots returned so far this cycle than on this date in 2008.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1223190000/



And those have been substantially more Republican ballots.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 06, 2012, 10:03:03 PM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.

Party Registration numbers in the South can be deceiving. How much of that 80,000 Dem decline is actually Obama voters? How much is Blue Dogs who voted for McCain? To me the more interesting numbers are the registered voters broken down by race. Total voter registration is up by about 244,000 and about 175,000 of that is minority voters.

And there, turnout seems to be substantially lower.

Quote
We have a lower turnout and a significantly more GOP electorate in NC.  So far, the black voters have represented a smaller portion of the electorate.

We don't know that. The starting and election days don't match up exactly but we have actually have more ballots returned so far this cycle than on this date in 2008.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1223190000/



And those have been substantially more Republican ballots.

Returned Ballots

Oct 5 2008

19,464 Ballots returned

Reps 57.1%
Dems 27.9%

Oct 5 2012

25,263 Ballots returned

Reps 53.3%
Dems 28.2%







Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 06, 2012, 11:23:36 PM

Returned Ballots

Oct 5 2008

19,464 Ballots returned

Reps 57.1%
Dems 27.9%

Oct 5 2012

25,263 Ballots returned

Reps 53.3%
Dems 28.2%


We have about 25% of the requested ballots returned; at this point in 2008, it was only 15% of the over all requests, and it was closer to the dead line for a request.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 07, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
Pro-tip for Mike: don't waste your time arguing with J.J. You'd make more progress with a brick wall.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
Pro-tip for Mike: don't waste your time arguing with J.J. You'd make more progress with a brick wall.

Lief, the numbers were showing, so far, that the ballot requests are 25% in.  You can't change that.  There is time to request.

NC is also showing an 80,000 Democratic net loss so far from 2008.  It is possible that they can make it up, but their "late registration" looks to be about 60% of what it was in 2008.  That doesn't factor in any effect from the debate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Politico on October 07, 2012, 01:22:28 AM
Democrats would be wise to forget about NC and start paying attention to MI, PA and maybe even OR...

If Democrats still want to win this, they're going to have to pull off a Gore 2000 with a full delivery...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 07:18:06 AM
Democrats would be wise to forget about NC and start paying attention to MI, PA and maybe even OR...

If Democrats still want to win this, they're going to have to pull off a Gore 2000 with a full delivery...

NC, which was close in 2008, is probably lost.  It would be better to divert resources to OH, IA, CO and even VA.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 07, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.

A couple points

1. Democrats are actually up in registration at this point compared to 2008. They made massive gains with in-person registration.

2. Those numbers are deeply misleading because there are almost 350,000 new voters registered in the state since 2008, only 20% of whom are white. That means a substantial number of African Americans, almost 40%, are registering as independents. Overall registration now is

71.7% White
22.3% Black

Compared with

74.9% White
21.6% Black
In 2008.

Furthermore, Democratic registration was at one point down more than 150,000, which implies Democrats have gained 90,000 votes on top of a net 250K non-white Independents. These registrants likely replaced older white Democrats who would be most likely to defect.

North Carolina is a very hard state for Obama to reach 50% in, but he will easily get 47% and almost certainly hit 48%. The demographics of the electorate are much more favorable than in 2008, which is not true in a lot of other states, and his normative margin that Romney has to overturn, to use the UK parlance, is probably 1.6% rather than the .3% he won by in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 05:51:47 PM
NC voter registration, showed a net gain of D's over the last week of 7858.

There is now a net loss for the D's since 2008 of 80,224 in NC.

A couple points

1. Democrats are actually up in registration at this point compared to 2008. They made massive gains with in-person registration.


They will have to make a 80,224 net gain to equal the spot where they were in 2008.  The can register with one stop voting, but that has not started yet.  This was pre-debate, so the gap could increase.

Quote
2. Those numbers are deeply misleading because there are almost 350,000 new voters registered in the state since 2008, only 20% of whom are white. That means a substantial number of African Americans, almost 40%, are registering as independents. Overall registration now is

71.7% White
22.3% Black

Compared with

74.9% White
21.6% Black
In 2008.

And so far, they are:

Not making up for the lost non black Democrats and they are not turning out, via absentee.  Neither are college students, as this is skewing older.




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 07, 2012, 09:37:28 PM
Absentees accounted for less than 9% of early votes cast in 2008. They also were more Republican than this year.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 07, 2012, 11:49:50 PM
Absentees accounted for less than 9% of early votes cast in 2008. They also were more Republican than this year.

Again, we have lower percentage of ballots cast at this point based on the number of requests (2012) versus the number of absentee ballot received (2008) and the number of requests are running constant.  They tended to run at about +20 GOP in 2008 and, so far, they are running +25.

As noted in September:

"Thus registered Republicans composed 51% of the earliest absentee ballot applications in 2008 and 42% in 2012."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/absentee-ballot-applicati_b_1868814.html

The Republicans are now at 52%.  Branson noted earlier on this thread that the gap between R and D was R +20 in 2008.  Today, in terms of applications, it is R +25.  The people making the applications are, obviously, planning to vote.  In terms of the votes case, so far, it is R +26.

So in NC, you have more requests for ballots from R's, proportionally, that you had in 2008.  You have both parties returning ballots at about the same rate as they are requesting them.  You have the number of R requesting ballots increasing and then holding steady at the higher levels.  You also have fewer ballots, as a percentage, returned at this point, than in 2008, and fewer ballots being requested.

Further, while NC does permit same day registration for "one stop voters," in 2008 it gave the Democrats a net gain of slightly under 40,000.  We'll have to wait until the end of this week, but we'll see if the D's get a net gain of 40,000.  Hint:  They didn't in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 08, 2012, 10:52:35 AM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 08, 2012, 12:15:58 PM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?

No.  Do you have a link?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 08, 2012, 08:21:32 PM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?

No.  Do you have a link?

For some reason i don't seem to able to link directly but if you can find the info here if you dig.

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=93


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 08, 2012, 08:48:00 PM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?

No.  Do you have a link?

For some reason i don't seem to able to link directly but if you can find the info here if you dig.

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=93

The only thing that I found was 48% Democrat and 40% Republican, but that includes in person voting. 

As noted, it was R+20 in 2008, and it is running R+25 to R+26 now.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 08, 2012, 08:57:15 PM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?

No.  Do you have a link?

For some reason i don't seem to able to link directly but if you can find the info here if you dig.

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=93

The only thing that I found was 48% Democrat and 40% Republican, but that includes in person voting. 

As noted, it was R+20 in 2008, and it is running R+25 to R+26 now.

I don't know why they did not publish the totals but if you have time to kill you can add up all the sub categories  and come up with the same numbers Dan the Roman  did.  I just wasted an hour doing just that.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 08, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
Absentee figures by Party in 2008

Republican: 122,412 (53.74%)
Democratic: 63,701 (27.96%)
Unaffiliated: 41,569 (18.25%)

Look familiar?

No.  Do you have a link?

For some reason i don't seem to able to link directly but if you can find the info here if you dig.

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=93

The only thing that I found was 48% Democrat and 40% Republican, but that includes in person voting. 

As noted, it was R+20 in 2008, and it is running R+25 to R+26 now.

I don't know why they did not publish the totals but if you have time to kill you can add up all the sub categories  and come up with the same numbers Dan the Roman  did.  I just wasted an hour doing just that.

Which still doesn't take into account the time.   As noted:



"Thus registered Republicans composed 51% of the earliest absentee ballot applications in 2008 and 42% in 2012."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/absentee-ballot-applicati_b_1868814.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: tmthforu94 on October 09, 2012, 12:26:42 PM
Early voting has begun in Indiana.

I was planning on heading over to the courthouse later today to cast my vote, but am still unsure on the Senate race.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Torie on October 09, 2012, 09:29:04 PM
Early voting has begun in Indiana.

I was planning on heading over to the courthouse later today to cast my vote, but am still unsure on the Senate race.

Has Donnelly intelligently grappled with entitlements? If not, go the the flawed Pub is my advice. That is the issue where the rubber meets the road. The rest is noise (I used that term twice today - sorry about that). I mean, he's not in the Akin category (someone who has brought shame on us all, and needs to cease to be a public figure ASAP).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 09, 2012, 10:06:29 PM
Early voting has begun in Indiana.

I was planning on heading over to the courthouse later today to cast my vote, but am still unsure on the Senate race.

Has Donnelly intelligently grappled with entitlements? If not, go the the flawed Pub is my advice. That is the issue where the rubber meets the road. The rest is noise (I used that term twice today - sorry about that). I mean, he's not in the Akin category (someone who has brought shame on us all, and needs to cease to be a public figure ASAP).

@ Torie: But if you vote for the flawed Republican then how will the pubs ever learn to nominate better candidates ;)

@ Tmthforu94: Some food for thought

“To me the highlight of politics, frankly, is to inflict my opinion on someone else.” - Richard Mourdock

“I have a mindset that says bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view." - Richard Mourdock

These are not the words of someone interested in governing.

Also: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/richard-mourdock-claim-cancer_n_1606005.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/richard-mourdock-claim-cancer_n_1606005.html)

Additionally, it is worth noting (and please correct me if I am wrong) that Mourdock ran a very mean-spirited and nasty primary campaign (and he really didn't need to).  I am not arguing that you should necessarally vote for Donnelly (although I obviously hope that you do), but I don't see how as enthusiastic a Luger supporter as yourself could vote for Mourdock after the primary campaign that he ran.  In other words, I hope you vote for Donnelly, but even if you decide not to, there is still another candidate on the ballot who didn't needlessly drag Luger's name through the mud (the Libertarian candidate).  Like I said, food for thought.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JohnCA246 on October 09, 2012, 10:53:07 PM
For what it's worth...

"Record number votes at Cuyahoga County elections board on last day to register for Nov. 6 election"

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/record_county_numbers_register.html (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/record_county_numbers_register.html)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Torie on October 09, 2012, 10:58:37 PM
To me, any candidate unwilling to intelligently and candidly deal with the entitlements issue, is the ultimate flawed candidate. They need to get the heck out of Dodge - all of those cowards - all of them. I'm done.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on October 10, 2012, 12:17:19 AM
To me, any candidate unwilling to intelligently and candidly deal with the entitlements issue, is the ultimate flawed candidate. They need to get the heck out of Dodge - all of those cowards - all of them. I'm done.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/10/09/comptroller-wall-street-finances/1623013/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/10/09/comptroller-wall-street-finances/1623013/)

This has happened in many other states and nationally, as I'm sure you are well aware.

The root of the problem isn't entitlements. The root of the problem is that the middle and working classes of this country have been hollowed out by decades of corporate deregulation, tax giveaways to the rich, the systematic busting of unions, draconian cuts in the social spending net-not to mention the huge losses of the wealth of said middle class in the economic recession (which a relatively small but powerful number of people profited from), or the fact that millions of Americans don't have job security, or health insurance, or access to even adequate education. Many millions of Americans are now in poverty, and many millions more are working desperately hard to not fall into poverty.

The "entitlements" you speak of are called that for a reason. People who have been paying into those programs throughout their working lives are legally entitled to receive benefits from them. Yes, the long-term demographic and fiscal picture for them looks bleak, but what's your point? That's not the fault of the people who payed into those programs; that's the fault of squandering the programs' solvency in recent years , and both parties are complicit in that.

My larger point is this: with the base and middle of the economy/country so hollowed out and over-stretched, why are they on the hook for the stupidity and arrogance of the wealthy? The government has been giving the rich "incentives" to create jobs and start businesses to stimulate economic growth for years now-meanwhile, real wages have fallen or stagnated, with few exceptions, since the 1970s. Yet I am to believe that nope, it is the social safety net itself that is the problem?

The social safety net's problems are symptoms of a deeper ill in our economy, not the cause. It would be foolish to drastically cut it.

/rant :P


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Beet on October 10, 2012, 12:28:36 AM
Torie, why are you so worried about entitlements? It's a long-term issue, and likely there will be some deal after the election to lower the deficit, no matter who is elected. If anything it'd be harder for your candidate to achieve, since he has a tougher line on the revenue side.

As for Mourdock, I hear he's already attacking Donnelly for voting to cut Medicare.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on October 10, 2012, 02:57:17 AM
I'm not really sure if it matters who wins the Indiana Senate race. Either way you're going to get someone who acts, talks and votes like a Republican.

And don't talk to me about control of the Senate! We all know this seat isn't going to be the deciding factor when it comes to that.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Niemeyerite on October 10, 2012, 04:59:36 AM
I think you should vote for Donnely, Tmth. If democrats take this seat, they'll already have kept the senate majority. It won't be the deciding factor, and If Mourdock wins, you'll have a bad senator for, at least, 20 years. If Donnelly wins, Pence may beat him in 2018.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 10, 2012, 07:52:46 AM
I'm not really sure if it matters who wins the Indiana Senate race. Either way you're going to get someone who acts, talks and votes like a Republican.

And don't talk to me about control of the Senate! We all know this seat isn't going to be the deciding factor when it comes to that.

Control of the senate matters in 2014... while I didn't care for how Bayh handled his centrism (there's a right way to do it and then there's an ineffective or corrupt way to do it), a centrist Indiana Dem is different from a hard right Indiana Republican, the same way that I'm very much down on Scott Brown, but he's distinguishable from Saxby Chambliss. I'll probably resent Donnelly a lot of he's elected but I still want him over Mourdock.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 10, 2012, 09:01:49 AM
Iowa Absentee Ballot requests are:

2008

D:  47%

R:  28.2%



2012 (as of 10/9)

D: 50.1%

R  28.2%

It looks like the bulk of the D request were early (based on what ones were returned). 

It looks like these were


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 10, 2012, 10:22:46 AM
The Ohio absentee numbers are beginning to look grim for Obama.

2008

D:  33.31%

R:  19.07%

2012 (10/9)

D:  30.03

R:  24.06

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

The gap has been closing bit by bit.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Torie on October 10, 2012, 10:27:47 AM
Torie, why are you so worried about entitlements? It's a long-term issue, and likely there will be some deal after the election to lower the deficit, no matter who is elected. If anything it'd be harder for your candidate to achieve, since he has a tougher line on the revenue side.

As for Mourdock, I hear he's already attacking Donnelly for voting to cut Medicare.

Be sure to watch the VP debate. Paul Ryan will explain it all to you. :)  We Boomers are a fiscal time bomb. We are out to bankrupt the nation.  We haven't saved squat, and we want to live to be a 100 at government expense. We want the best drugs ... always have. I wonder if there will be a Boomer push to have face lifts covered under Medicare. And an amazing percentage of us will hit 90, half of us with dementia.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: bore on October 10, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
The Ohio absentee numbers are beginning to look grim for Obama.

2008

D:  33.31%

R:  19.07%

2012 (10/9)

D:  30.03

R:  24.06

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

The gap has been closing bit by bit.



They don't have party registration in Ohio, so comparing the two is disengenous.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 10, 2012, 10:34:13 AM
The Ohio absentee numbers are beginning to look grim for Obama.

2008

D:  33.31%

R:  19.07%

2012 (10/9)

D:  30.03

R:  24.06

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

The gap has been closing bit by bit.



They don't have party registration in Ohio, so comparing the two is disengenous.

They had the same registration type in 2008, so the comparison is quite legitimate.  They do have party registration, but it is not strong and can be changed on primary days.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: bore on October 10, 2012, 11:04:10 AM
The Ohio absentee numbers are beginning to look grim for Obama.

2008

D:  33.31%

R:  19.07%

2012 (10/9)

D:  30.03

R:  24.06

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

The gap has been closing bit by bit.



They don't have party registration in Ohio, so comparing the two is disengenous.

They had the same registration type in 2008, so the comparison is quite legitimate.  They do have party registration, but it is not strong and can be changed on primary days.

AFAIK you are only registered with a party in Ohio if you voted in the primary for it in either 2010 or 2012. The dems did not have a contested primary in 2012 so comparing it to 2008, when they did, is just silly.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 10, 2012, 12:30:07 PM
Early voting has begun in Indiana.

I was planning on heading over to the courthouse later today to cast my vote, but am still unsure on the Senate race.

My advice is wait to the end of the early vote period, rather than go immediately. After what happened in 2008 with Dole and her "godless" ad, you can't really react to it if you have already voted. We will probably wait towards the end of the early vote period here in NC, for that, but also because of fact that we have to wait to for my dad's registration to go through. He has never voted before, that I know of.

As for the Senate race, my suggestion would be to establish a list of strategic aims or desires that you want to achieve vis a vis the Senate and then pick the choice that best alligns with those parameters.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 10, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
AFAIK you are only registered with a party in Ohio if you voted in the primary for it in either 2010 or 2012.

This is the second time I've seen this claim in this thread.  What is the basis for it?

The link from the Ohio laws posted earlier (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.19) was a section of law that determines party affiliation in the case of a challenge to eligibility to vote at a primary election.  There is nothing in that section of code to indicate that the same criteria will be applied somehow to someone's existing registration.

So where is the idea that Ohio automagically re-registers voters or somehow changes existing affiliations at some point between election cycles coming from?  Not saying it's wrong, but where is this spelled out?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 10, 2012, 12:59:43 PM
My understanding is that you can declare as well. 



AFAIK you are only registered with a party in Ohio if you voted in the primary for it in either 2010 or 2012. The dems did not have a contested primary in 2012 so comparing it to 2008, when they did, is just silly.

In this case, the bulk of people registering Republican will have to vote for one of the candidates on the GOP side.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on October 10, 2012, 10:14:42 PM
AFAIK you are only registered with a party in Ohio if you voted in the primary for it in either 2010 or 2012.

This is the second time I've seen this claim in this thread.  What is the basis for it?

The link from the Ohio laws posted earlier (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/3513.19) was a section of law that determines party affiliation in the case of a challenge to eligibility to vote at a primary election.  There is nothing in that section of code to indicate that the same criteria will be applied somehow to someone's existing registration.

So where is the idea that Ohio automagically re-registers voters or somehow changes existing affiliations at some point between election cycles coming from?  Not saying it's wrong, but where is this spelled out?

The way it works is that when you register to vote in Ohio you do not declare a party affiliation. When you vote in a primary, you can choose between Democrat, Republican, Independent (or possibly others if another party has a primary that year). Whatever party's ballot you ask for, the state records you as a member of that party.

For example, (I am an Ohio resident going to college in Wisconsin but I vote in Ohio) I asked for a Democratic ballot in the primary this year to vote for in my congressional primary. I had asked for a Republican ballot to vote for John McCain in the 2008 primary. From spring of 2008 until spring of 2012, I was listed as a registered Republican. I occasionally received political mail with my party listed on it as being Republican. This time, by voting in the Democratic Primary, I am now listed as a registered Democrat. I occasionally get mail sent to me that lists my party of registration as Democratic. I think if after some period of time you do not vote in either party's primary, your registration gets reset to Independent.

You can probably see the obvious flaws in reading too much into Ohio's partisan statistics.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 11, 2012, 12:43:27 AM
Iowa's absentee requests are interesting:

Dem    49.1%
Rep    29.0%
None/Oth    21.9%
   
in 2008, they were:

Dem 47
Rep 28.2
Other 24.8

Both the R and D have improved, the the D's still hold the edge.  It has closed a bit.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JohnCA246 on October 11, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
This could be a major F'ing problem.

"Absentee ballots cause of concern for some Cuyahoga County voters" Cleveland Plain Dealer

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/absentee_ballots_cause_of_conc.html (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/absentee_ballots_cause_of_conc.html)

 
Quote
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A pair of extra issues have been tacked onto absentee ballots delivered to voters throughout Cuyahoga County.

But they have nothing to do with politics.

Misprinted envelopes and foggy language about postage has hundreds of county residents worried that their votes will not count...

To alleviate confusion, ballot envelopes are now printed with labels inside the yellow-highlighted fields voters are required to fill out.

But the labels -- "Print Name," "Sign Here," etc. -- on at least 45,000 envelopes mailed to voters are too dark, leaving little or no room to clearly jot down the information.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JohnCA246 on October 11, 2012, 01:33:33 PM
and now this...

"Ohio elections chief Jon Husted restricts methods to notify voters of absentee ballot errors"

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html (http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JohnCA246 on October 11, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
This is awful...

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Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 11, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
Iowa's absentee requests are interesting:

Dem    49.1%
Rep    29.0%
None/Oth    21.9%
   
in 1998, they were:

Dem 47
Rep 28.2
Other 24.8

Both the R and D have improved, the the D's still hold the edge.  It has closed a bit.

Today, in terms of absentee ballot requests, Iowa Republicans have closed the gap below the 2008 levels, but not by a lot.

Party Reg    
Dem    48.1%
Rep    29.7%
None/Oth    22.1%



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: tmthforu94 on October 11, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
and now this...

"Ohio elections chief Jon Husted restricts methods to notify voters of absentee ballot errors"

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html (http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html)
Hopefully all of this will suppress voters enough to to give Romney the state of Ohio...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 11, 2012, 05:27:40 PM
and now this...

"Ohio elections chief Jon Husted restricts methods to notify voters of absentee ballot errors"

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html (http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_elections_chief_restricts.html)
Hopefully all of this will suppress voters enough to to give Romney the state of Ohio...

Please be trolling, please, we really don't need more amoral hackery from either side.  I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it is really hard to tell when people are serious on this sub-forum.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 11, 2012, 06:09:36 PM
Here is a a memo on early voting  put out by the Obama campaign (PDF)

https://secure.assets.bostatic.com/pdfs/Voter_Reg_and_Early_Voting_FINAL.pdf

Of course they put a pro Obama spin on things but they do a good job of laying out all the numbers.  Worth a read even if you are not an Obama partisan.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 11, 2012, 07:07:33 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 11, 2012, 07:55:11 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.

Ah, there must be a lot of black and Hispanic Republicans.  OH, NC, and IA (barely) are closer than 2008, so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 11, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.

Ah, there must be a lot of black and Hispanic Republicans.  OH, NC, and IA (barely) are closer than 2008, so far.

Well, that's a weird way of making that inference.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 11, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.

Ah, there must be a lot of black and Hispanic Republicans.  OH, NC, and IA (barely) are closer than 2008, so far.

Well, that's a weird way of making that inferences.

Well, strictly in terms of the party of people applying for absentee ballots, R's have been improving in terms of percentage of the electorate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
Iowa's absentee requests are interesting:

Dem    49.1%
Rep    29.0%
None/Oth    21.9%
   
in 1998, they were:

Dem 47
Rep 28.2
Other 24.8

Both the R and D have improved, the the D's still hold the edge.  It has closed a bit.

The slippage is continuing, so far:

Party Reg    
Dem    47.5%
Rep    30.2%
None/Oth    22.3%
   

It is there, but it is not substantial.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 12, 2012, 04:03:13 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.

Ah, there must be a lot of black and Hispanic Republicans.  OH, NC, and IA (barely) are closer than 2008, so far.

Well, that's a weird way of making that inferences.

Well, strictly in terms of the party of people applying for absentee ballots, R's have been improving in terms of percentage of the electorate.

The number of people applying for absentee ballots is a subset of the total number of voters, right? Just to be sure we're on the same page?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 04:27:02 PM
Interesting to see non-Hispanic white absolute numbers be static or dropping in most states from 2008.

Ah, there must be a lot of black and Hispanic Republicans.  OH, NC, and IA (barely) are closer than 2008, so far.

Well, that's a weird way of making that inferences.

Well, strictly in terms of the party of people applying for absentee ballots, R's have been improving in terms of percentage of the electorate.

The number of people applying for absentee ballots is a subset of the total number of voters, right? Just to be sure we're on the same page?

A lower subset, applications for absentee ballots.  Where possible, I'm trying to look at the same time period.  One guy (okay he has a Ph D and writes for Huffington), looked at the differences in NC.  He stated that it was about a 20 point gap in the early voting in 2008; it is currently about 23.5%.  It's not a lot, but it is significant.

Likewise there was a huge gap in Iowa in favor of D's in 2008.  In 2012, there is still a huge gap, but it is slightly smaller, and decreasing, so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 12, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
Thanks. I'm still trying to understand how you're getting to there being more black and Hispanic republicans (even sarcastically) from the number of non-Hispanic white voters being steady, even if there's some marginal improvement in absentee ballot requests from Rs or something. Help me understand.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
Thanks. I'm still trying to understand how you're getting to there being more black and Hispanic republicans (even sarcastically) from the number of non-Hispanic white voters being steady, even if there's some marginal improvement in absentee ballot requests from Rs or something. Help me understand.

Well, and yes, I am being sarcastic, the electorate looks like it is more R than in 2008.  Since there was relatively more nonwhite/non Hispanic voters in 2008, and there are more R's voting, they must be Republican.  I'm obviously joking. 

I, not joking, expect the black/Hispanic proportion of the electorate to decline.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on October 12, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
The Ohio Democrats are timid, so i am fairly certain that Husted will be able to easily steal this state for Robme and the Koch brothers.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 05:18:02 PM
The Ohio Democrats are timid, so i am fairly certain that Husted will be able to easily steal this state for Robme and the Koch brothers.

[sarcasm]Wow!  Sending everyone an absentee ballot application really suppresses the vote. [/quote] ::)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Likely Voter on October 12, 2012, 05:53:14 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 05:58:38 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073

Then OH is going Romney.  The votes turned in are running about 7 points for the Democrats.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 12, 2012, 06:12:55 PM
Latest Early Voting article by Prof Michael McDonald.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-rising_b_1962843.html



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 12, 2012, 06:14:52 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073

Then OH is going Romney.  The votes turned in are running about 7 points for the Democrats.

Again party registration numbers in Ohio are deeply flawed (bangs head against wall).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 06:21:41 PM
Latest Early Voting article by Prof Michael McDonald.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-rising_b_1962843.html



As of today, he is wrong about IA, and his statement contracts his previous statement about NC.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 06:23:07 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073

Then OH is going Romney.  The votes turned in are running about 7 points for the Democrats.

Again party registration numbers in Ohio are deeply flawed (bangs head against wall).

And again, while not a perfect measurement, still telling, because the gap has closed by more than half. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 12, 2012, 08:15:03 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073

Then OH is going Romney.  The votes turned in are running about 7 points for the Democrats.

Again party registration numbers in Ohio are deeply flawed (bangs head against wall).

And again, while not a perfect measurement, still telling, because the gap has closed by more than half. 

Voter registration has gone from about a 60-40 D-R ratio to about a 65-35 R-D ratio. Early voting/absentee voting has moved far less. Literally there are probably around almost twice as many "Republicans" as "Democrats" right now.

Also early voting in Cuyahoga is running ahead of 2008 numbers:

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 12, 2012, 08:19:28 PM
According to the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll 10% of Dems have already voted, only 4% of Republicans and 5% of Independents.
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12073

Then OH is going Romney.  The votes turned in are running about 7 points for the Democrats.

Again party registration numbers in Ohio are deeply flawed (bangs head against wall).

And again, while not a perfect measurement, still telling, because the gap has closed by more than half. 

Voter registration has gone from about a 60-40 D-R ratio to about a 65-35 R-D ratio. Early voting/absentee voting has moved far less. Literally there are probably around almost twice as many "Republicans" as "Democrats" right now.

Also early voting in Cuyahoga is running ahead of 2008 numbers:

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf



Here are current statistics:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Now, a lot of those of people (though not all) that voted in the R Primary will be voting for the R candidate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 12, 2012, 10:16:11 PM
The Ohio Democrats are timid, so i am fairly certain that Husted will be able to easily steal this state for Robme and the Koch brothers.

[sarcasm]Wow!  Sending everyone an absentee ballot application really suppresses the vote.

Seems like we discovered Husted's "Final solution" (oops) to suppress Democratic votes, get them to vote absentee then toss the ballots for inane reasons. Also don't forget that if someone makes an error on their ballot the local Board of Elections "Cannot" call the voter, they can only mail a form which could take a week if ever to get to the voter. I swear this guy Husted must have a PHD in Election Rigging from MIT.

Listen pal, I don't know what your problem is and I honestly don't care, you need to start showing some respect for the victims of the Holocaust.  That's really not asking much.  If you can't even do that, than there's something wrong with you and you're no better than the tea-party crowd.  This wasn't even you using a term like "Gestapo" in casual conversation to refer to an organization, this was just you being obnoxious.  There was no point to it (which is why you included the "oops").  It was essentially an "f-you" to me for criticizing your disgusting earlier post.  It's about time you cut this crap out.  Grow up or shut up.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on October 12, 2012, 10:38:21 PM
Mr x or is it zero?...you are now on ignore buh bye...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on October 13, 2012, 12:25:35 AM
JJ makes me want to completely abandon this thread.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 13, 2012, 12:36:29 AM
My favorite J.J. characteristic is his tendency to repeat the same thing over and over again, dismissing all evidence to the contrary and even ignoring and discounting the word of people who are actually experts on the thing he's talking about.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 13, 2012, 02:19:53 AM
The Ohio Democrats are timid, so i am fairly certain that Husted will be able to easily steal this state for Robme and the Koch brothers.

[sarcasm]Wow!  Sending everyone an absentee ballot application really suppresses the vote.

Seems like we discovered Husted's "Final solution" (oops) to suppress Democratic votes, get them to vote absentee then toss the ballots for inane reasons. Also don't forget that if someone makes an error on their ballot the local Board of Elections "Cannot" call the voter, they can only mail a form which could take a week if ever to get to the voter. I swear this guy Husted must have a PHD in Election Rigging from MIT.

Listen pal, I don't know what your problem is and I honestly don't care, you need to start showing some respect for the victims of the Holocaust.  That's really not asking much.  If you can't even do that, than there's something wrong with you and you're no better than the tea-party crowd.  This wasn't even you using a term like "Gestapo" in casual conversation to refer to an organization, this was just you being obnoxious.  There was no point to it (which is why you included the "oops").  It was essentially an "f-you" to me for criticizing your disgusting earlier post.  It's about time you cut this crap out.  Grow up or shut up.
Drop the hammer on him, man. It's astounding the amount of idiots come out of the woodwork come election time. While the 'ignore' button is a wonderful feature, it does the forum good to have people actually calling them, too. I have a hard time keeping my temper in those kinds of situations, so I have to just hit 'ignore' or end up stooping lower.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
My favorite J.J. characteristic is his tendency to repeat the same thing over and over again, dismissing all evidence to the contrary and even ignoring and discounting the word of people who are actually experts on the thing he's talking about.

No, I am saying point blank that, as of yesterday, MacDonald was wrong, regarding IA.  Now, in all fairness, he probably wrote the blog before that happened.  As of yesterday, the gap has closed.  It had been closing for the past week.  The gap is shrinking.

Also, based on MacDonald's earlier statement, the gap is larger, and more favorable to the GOP, in NC.

I will add the words, "so far," to both.  The gap in NC has narrowed.

OH does have the registration issue, however, there is still a very large narrowing of that gap, as of yesterday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: bore on October 13, 2012, 06:09:32 AM
Might have already been posted, but this is a good website for keeping track of all the early voting: http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 06:30:51 AM
Might have already been posted, but this is a good website for keeping track of all the early voting: http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

That is the one I've bee using.

NC, basically on the last day of registration, the Democrats are down 72,934 from this point in 2008. There are still some applications unprocessed and "same day voters" can register.  In 2008, that accounted for a net gain of 40,000.  (I expect that net gain to be slightly lower in 2012.)

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=41

In looking over the last the three weeks, the net D gain was roughly

9/29/12

8,000

10/6/12

8,800

10/13/12

7,300

That final number may simply be natural or it may be a measure of enthusiasm. 




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 13, 2012, 08:45:31 AM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on October 13, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
The Ohio Democrats are timid, so i am fairly certain that Husted will be able to easily steal this state for Robme and the Koch brothers.

[sarcasm]Wow!  Sending everyone an absentee ballot application really suppresses the vote.

Seems like we discovered Husted's "Final solution" (oops) to suppress Democratic votes, get them to vote absentee then toss the ballots for inane reasons. Also don't forget that if someone makes an error on their ballot the local Board of Elections "Cannot" call the voter, they can only mail a form which could take a week if ever to get to the voter. I swear this guy Husted must have a PHD in Election Rigging from MIT.

Listen pal, I don't know what your problem is and I honestly don't care, you need to start showing some respect for the victims of the Holocaust.  That's really not asking much.  If you can't even do that, than there's something wrong with you and you're no better than the tea-party crowd.  This wasn't even you using a term like "Gestapo" in casual conversation to refer to an organization, this was just you being obnoxious.  There was no point to it (which is why you included the "oops").  It was essentially an "f-you" to me for criticizing your disgusting earlier post.  It's about time you cut this crap out.  Grow up or shut up.
Drop the hammer on him, man. It's astounding the amount of idiots come out of the woodwork come election time. While the 'ignore' button is a wonderful feature, it does the forum good to have people actually calling them, too. I have a hard time keeping my temper in those kinds of situations, so I have to just hit 'ignore' or end up stooping lower.

Yawn, Another "panty waist" Internet Tough-Guy. :)



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: philly09 on October 13, 2012, 03:12:11 PM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.


How do you know those Republicans aren't voting for Goode?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 04:36:37 PM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.


How do you know those Republicans aren't voting for Goode?

Probably not, based on the poll numbers. 

These might be a good indication of turnout or enthusiasm. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 13, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.

Of course the electorate is going to be more Republican. You don't need to look at those numbers to learn that. The question is whether or not it's going to me more Republican enough to reverse a 7% Obama lead.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.

Of course the electorate is going to be more Republican. You don't need to look at those numbers to learn that. The question is whether or not it's going to me more Republican enough to reverse a 7% Obama lead.

That also can have an effect on the weighting in polls.

Very probably, it is enough to reverse, at least in some states.  We are also seeing some things like registration (in some states).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on October 13, 2012, 08:59:34 PM
When does the Texas start?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 13, 2012, 09:05:25 PM

10/22-11/6 for early voting.

http://www.votetexas.gov/faq/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 14, 2012, 12:26:45 AM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.

Ahhh, J.J. ... ::)

How do you know that out of the 60.000 votes that were cast so far in VA (compared with a total of 600.000 early votes in 2008), that there will be a more Republican turnout this year ?

That's nonsense and you know it.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1072


Virginia voting figures.

So far, everything is pointing to a more Republican electorate than 2008.

Ahhh, J.J. ... ::)

How do you know that out of the 60.000 votes that were cast so far in VA (compared with a total of 600.000 early votes in 2008), that there will be a more Republican turnout this year ?

That's nonsense and you know it.

I said that it is pointing to a better Republican turnout.  The indications are that it will be, and that is hardly controversial.  It is nonsense to say that it isn't.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 14, 2012, 06:22:54 AM
I suppose the upside for Romney being that a MORE Democratic electorate in VA would spell doom for him...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
I suppose the upside for Romney being that a MORE Democratic electorate in VA would spell doom for him...

Not necessarily doom either way for either candidate.  I would note this look like a more Republican electorate and was noting the problems for Romney in IA, prior to the numbers closing.

And, as an example, the NC numbers are closing.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 14, 2012, 02:57:13 PM
Blowing up the "19% of Ohioans have already voted" poll finding:

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/10/14/watch-out-for-phony-early-vote-numbers-in-ohio/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 14, 2012, 03:16:27 PM
Blowing up the "19% of Ohioans have already voted" poll finding:

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/10/14/watch-out-for-phony-early-vote-numbers-in-ohio/

This would make the third serious point that says PPP is not a credible pollster anymore.

1. They consistently skew the most to Obama in their results
2. Akin leading by 1 after his comments, completely a political play to keep him in
3. The SOS release shows 3% early voting, yet they're pushing propaganda that there's 20% (along with marist) early voting.  Neither should be considered credible anymore

Kos Kids/Union goon poll is junk....  anyone referencing them should be laughed at. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 14, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
oh cool, more pollster conspiracy theories, that's just what this forum needs


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 14, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
I think I need to stress again how much I hate the month before an election...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 03:29:37 PM
The has been a trend, in some states for Democrats to vote toward the beginning of the absentee period; it is more pronounced in other states (NC, IA).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 14, 2012, 03:30:49 PM
oh cool, more pollster conspiracy theories, that's just what this forum needs

Right, so now it's a conspiracy theory to point out that PPP gets 19% of OH has already voted, but the OH SoS says about 5-6% have?  Just because I point out PPP got a bad result doesn't mean I think it's intentional or conspiratorial.

Oh right, the OH SoS is that evil Republican Husted.  He's to be trusted less than a pollster.

One of us is pushing a conspiracy theory here, but it isn't me...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 03:37:20 PM
oh cool, more pollster conspiracy theories, that's just what this forum needs

Right, so now it's a conspiracy theory to point out that PPP gets 19% of OH has already voted, but the OH SoS says about 5-6% have?  Just because I point out PPP got a bad result doesn't mean I think it's intentional or conspiratorial.

Oh right, the OH SoS is that evil Republican Husted.  He's to be trusted less than a pollster.

One of us is pushing a conspiracy theory here, but it isn't me...

Well, in all honesty, they could have mailed them in and they have not yet been delivered or recorded as having arrived. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 14, 2012, 03:42:34 PM
oh cool, more pollster conspiracy theories, that's just what this forum needs

Really? Hardly a conspiracy theory.   I'm sorry PPP is not credible they made that choice this time around.  At some point 20% of Ohio may vote early but they haven't yet, we are talking about a major difference.  What a crazy claim to make. 

Keep grasping at straws.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 14, 2012, 03:46:39 PM
Here's a breakdown, show's at best 5.5% early voting in Ohio.


http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/10/14/watch-out-for-phony-early-vote-numbers-in-ohio/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 14, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
Big week ahead for early voting. In person early voting begins in North Carolina (10-18) and Nevada (10-20). In both states more than half the electorate will vote early and both report turnout by party so we will get a read on enthusiasm. So far only Iowa has had a big enough turnout along with party registration stats that we can make some educated guesses on enthusiasm.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 14, 2012, 08:44:35 PM
Early Voting up date from Florida.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/14/3050032/in-politics-polls-are-important.html
Quote
The Republicans lead Democrats when it comes to absentee votes cast, about 126,000 to 114,000. In percentage terms, Republicans lead Democrats 44-40 percent.

Quote
Despite all the positive trends for them, Republicans are a little nervous. They’ve always out-organized and outvoted Democrats by absentee ballots — usually by big margins.

But no more.

Relative to this time in the 2008 election, Democrats trailed Republicans by 16 percentage points in voted absentee ballots. That lead has been cut to 4 percentage points this year.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: philly09 on October 14, 2012, 08:48:50 PM
So I guess Obama should head to FL and NC right after the debate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
So I guess Obama should head to FL and NC right after the debate.

No, Ohio. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 14, 2012, 10:48:30 PM
Romney has a 25k absentee ballot head start in CO.

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902 (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902)



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 14, 2012, 10:54:20 PM
Romney has a 25k absentee ballot head start in CO.

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902 (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902)



That link gave me a headache. I don't know what he is claiming or how he documents it. The graph is misleading, too.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 14, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
lol, cool bar graph, guy

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Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 14, 2012, 11:08:57 PM
From GMU updated 10/14, didn't see this posted, am I reading this correctly?

50k early votes

Party Reg 
Dem 27.4%
Rep 54.2%
None/Oth 18.4%
Age 
18-29 8.6%
30-44 10.9%
45-59 21.0%
60+ 59.5%
Race 
White 88.9%
Black 7.1%
Other 3.9%
Gender 
Female 56.2%
Male 43.0%
Unk. 0.8%

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
From GMU updated 10/14, didn't see this posted, am I reading this correctly?

50k early votes

Party Reg 
Dem 27.4%
Rep 54.2%
None/Oth 18.4%
Age 
18-29 8.6%
30-44 10.9%
45-59 21.0%
60+ 59.5%
Race 
White 88.9%
Black 7.1%
Other 3.9%
Gender 
Female 56.2%
Male 43.0%
Unk. 0.8%

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

NC?  Yes, but that is a bit misleading.  In 2008, R's had a 20 point lead.  Also keep an eye of applications.  They tend to be predictive.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 14, 2012, 11:47:32 PM

That's an excel fail right there... lol


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 15, 2012, 12:36:52 AM
Romney has a 25k absentee ballot head start in CO.

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902 (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/11/analysis-romney-starts-with-25000-vote-head-start-in-colorado/#more-3902)

Eh, no.

Romney doesn't start out with anything. Only more Republicans have REQUESTED mail ballots so far than Democrats.

Which is not unusual, given that in Colorado there are 60.000 more registered Republicans than Democrats. So, it means that Democrats have actually requested MORE ballots in percentage terms than Republicans.

And besides, we don't know how these people vote, so to say Romney has an advantage is simply false.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: bore on October 15, 2012, 08:02:46 AM

Only the lib dems can beat the republicans here!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 15, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
So, it means that Democrats have actually requested MORE ballots in percentage terms than Republicans.

That would only be true if the absentee vote ends up being more than 41.7% of the total vote.  Is that at all likely?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 15, 2012, 01:01:17 PM
The Washington Post says things look good for Dems so far:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/15/why-the-early-vote-looks-good-for-democrats/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 15, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
http://vote.franklincountyohio.gov/absentee/absentee-district-counts.cfm




The 3rd congressional district composes of 62% of Franklin County's population but is greatly lagging in absentee ballot requests at only 54%.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 15, 2012, 03:11:50 PM
The Washington Post says things look good for Dems so far:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/15/why-the-early-vote-looks-good-for-democrats/

They are using old numbers.  IA applications now have a greater percentage of R's than 2008 while D's have about the same.  It is about a 2 point gain.

NC is running about 2 points higher as well.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 16, 2012, 08:44:26 AM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121016/NEWS09/310160032/1007/news05

Republican voters’ requests for ballots have eclipsed the Democrats for 10 straight days, significantly shrinking President Barack Obama’s advantage, state records show.

Iowa Democrats led in absentee ballots in 2010, but lost heavily in the general election. Currently, among active voters in Iowa, the GOP has a registration advantage of 11,000.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 16, 2012, 08:54:31 AM
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121016/NEWS09/310160032/1007/news05

Republican voters’ requests for ballots have eclipsed the Democrats for 10 straight days, significantly shrinking President Barack Obama’s advantage, state records show.

Iowa Democrats led in absentee ballots in 2010, but lost heavily in the general election. Currently, among active voters in Iowa, the GOP has a registration advantage of 11,000.

It is running about 2.2 points ahead of 2008.  That number has been growing.  The D's have increased slightly, by 0.1 points.  So there is now a net gain of 2.1 points.

NC is running about 3.2 points ahead of 2008, assuming McDonald was right that it was a R +20 point gap.

It is very clearly a small Republican trend.

Can Obama stop the trend tonight? 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 16, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Today IA applications are running about 2.6 points ahead of 2008, and the gap is growing.

NC is running about 2.9 points ahead of 2008, with the gap decreasing.

I expect the NC numbers to change Saturday when Same day voting starts. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 16, 2012, 11:57:52 AM
Even if Romney is doing 2-3% better than in 2008, that's not nearly enough.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 16, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Even if Romney is doing 2-3% better than in 2008, that's not nearly enough.

A lot of Obama's strength was in these absentee votes and in early voting.  And we are not talking about intraparty swing.  It is just a more GOP electorate. 

IA is slightly better than it was in 2004, currently, but very slightly.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 17, 2012, 02:35:08 PM
GOP keeps closing gap in early vote in Iowa. Down 50-30 now after being down 60-22 on Oct. 5 and 54-27 one week ago.




2010: 45D 38R


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 17, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Even if Romney is doing 2-3% better than in 2008, that's not nearly enough.

A lot of Obama's strength was in these absentee votes and in early voting.  And we are not talking about intraparty swing.  It is just a more GOP electorate. 

IA is slightly better than it was in 2004, currently, but very slightly.

Iowa voter registration:

Dec 2008:
D: 708996
R: 598850
I: 727979

current:

D: 611284
R: 622176
I: 675171


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 17, 2012, 04:48:30 PM
IA R ballot applications is currently running 3.4 points ahead of 2008.

NC R ballot applications is currently running about 2.6 points ahead of 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 17, 2012, 06:27:17 PM
2010 in Iowa was

43.7% D
38.0% R

With  349,216 Votes, 100K less than total requests so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 17, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
2010 in Iowa was

43.7% D
38.0% R

With  349,216 Votes, 100K less than total requests so far.

I'm trying to do comparisons from a presidential year.  2010 isn't too relevant (though it is closing on a higher figure).

It isn't as good as 2004 (though the R's approaching the same percentage), but it is better than 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Mister Twister on October 17, 2012, 07:36:13 PM
IA R ballot applications is currently running 3.4 points ahead of 2008.

So Romney is screwed in Iowa? 3.4% isn't anywhere close to swing the state


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 17, 2012, 09:07:05 PM
IA R ballot applications is currently running 3.4 points ahead of 2008.

So Romney is screwed in Iowa? 3.4% isn't anywhere close to swing the state

Mo, it is a measure of enthusiasm since 2008.  In 2000, the R's came in ahead in absentee ballots, and lost the state.  In 2004, it was the D's, and they lost.

The 3.4 points is a change in the electorate.  If there was something similar with actual voters, it might mean that the polls there are too Democratic in terms of weighting.

There are some structural changes that might benefit the R's slightly as well.  100 voters can join and petition of an early voting site.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Meeker on October 18, 2012, 12:50:39 AM
Ballots in Washington were mailed starting Wednesday (some counties will mail Thursday and Friday). We don't have party registration though so there's nothing to track besides raw turnout.

Oregon ballots go out late this week or early next week depending on the county.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 18, 2012, 06:05:20 AM
IA R ballot applications is currently running 3.4 points ahead of 2008.

So Romney is screwed in Iowa? 3.4% isn't anywhere close to swing the state

Mo, it is a measure of enthusiasm since 2008.  In 2000, the R's came in ahead in absentee ballots, and lost the state.  In 2004, it was the D's, and they lost.

The 3.4 points is a change in the electorate.  If there was something similar with actual voters, it might mean that the polls there are too Democratic in terms of weighting.

There are some structural changes that might benefit the R's slightly as well.  100 voters can join and petition of an early voting site.


Iowa early voting 2004 and 2008.

http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2004/general/2004StatewideStats.pdf

http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2008/08StatReportStatewide.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 18, 2012, 10:17:02 AM
Even if Romney is doing 2-3% better than in 2008, that's not nearly enough.

A lot of Obama's strength was in these absentee votes and in early voting.  And we are not talking about intraparty swing.  It is just a more GOP electorate. 

IA is slightly better than it was in 2004, currently, but very slightly.


Yesterday:

50.3% D
29.8% R
19.9% I


Today:

49.5% D
30.3% R
20.2% I


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 10:38:45 AM



Yesterday:

50.3% D
29.8% R
19.9% I


Today:

49.5% D
30.3% R
20.2% I

Those are the votes cast.  As noted earlier on the thread, there was a surge of D voters initially.  That is rapidly declining and the applications are showing a stronger decline coming.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: rob in cal on October 18, 2012, 11:36:35 AM
   The SUSA poll that came out yesterday of Ohio had 18% of total voters saying they had already voted.  This implies a total early vote of about 1 million, and I believe the total early vote so far according to Professor Mcdonald's site is only around half that.  Of course lots of ballots are in the mail, but I wonder if alot of people who said they have already voted actually mean they are going to shortly.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on October 18, 2012, 11:51:45 AM
   The SUSA poll that came out yesterday of Ohio had 18% of total voters saying they had already voted.  This implies a total early vote of about 1 million, and I believe the total early vote so far according to Professor Mcdonald's site is only around half that.  Of course lots of ballots are in the mail, but I wonder if alot of people who said they have already voted actually mean they are going to shortly.
probablty, the inaccuracy of these kinds of things really annoys me


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 18, 2012, 12:48:39 PM
   The SUSA poll that came out yesterday of Ohio had 18% of total voters saying they had already voted. 

Interesting.  Since a previous OH poll had 19% already voted, it looks 1% of Ohioans chased down their local mailman, grabbed the mail bag off his shoulder or broke into his van, found the envelope they already mailed, and took it back home with them.

I think the pollsters will need a screening question set for "likely un-voters".


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 18, 2012, 01:39:33 PM
   The SUSA poll that came out yesterday of Ohio had 18% of total voters saying they had already voted. 

Interesting.  Since a previous OH poll had 19% already voted, it looks 1% of Ohioans chased down their local mailman, grabbed the mail bag off his shoulder or broke into his van, found the envelope they already mailed, and took it back home with them.

I think the pollsters will need a screening question set for "likely un-voters".

I'm hoping you're just kidding around, because...margin of error.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 18, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
I'm hoping you're just kidding around, because...margin of error.

Of course, I'm kidding, but just to extend this...

What is the margin of error on the "already voted" component?  How does the polling outfit screen out the crowd  who says they've voted but really haven't?

I only point this out because the previous poll that arrived at the 19% conclusion was a few days before the Ohio Secretary of State was reporting about 5.5% already voted (absentee + in-person early).

So unless the margin of error there is +/-13.5%...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
In terms of returned ballots, NC is running about 7 points more R than 2008.

Also in terms of returned ballots, IA is running about 1.1 more D than 2008.  However, the applications are showing a substantial gap.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 05:42:33 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 06:00:52 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently. 

Actually Mail in Ballots were R +25.8% in 2008.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently. 

Actually Mail in Ballots were R +25.8% in 2008.



At this point in time?  Where are you statistics.  I did previously post Professor MacDonald's number. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently.  

Actually Mail in Ballots were R +25.8% in 2008.



At this point in time?  Where are you statistics.  I did previously post Professor MacDonald's number.  

We have had this discussion before. The R+25.8% is for MIB for the whole election. You can find the info on the North Carolina Elections website, unfortunately while they break down everything by by sub groups they don't total it up so you have to do the math yourself.

Mail In Ballots in North Carolina in 2008

Republicans 122,411 (53.74%)
Democrats 63,701 (27.96%)
Libertarian 115 (0.05%)
Other 41,567 (18.25%)



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 06:44:26 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently.  

Actually Mail in Ballots were R +25.8% in 2008.



At this point in time?  Where are you statistics.  I did previously post Professor MacDonald's number.  

We have had this discussion before. The R+25.8% is for MIB for the whole election. You can find the info on the North Carolina Elections website, unfortunately while they break down everything by by sub groups they don't total it up so you have to do the math yourself.

Mail In Ballots in North Carolina in 2008

Republicans 122,411 (53.74%)
Democrats 63,701 (27.96%)
Libertarian 115 (0.05%)
Other 41,567 (18.25%)



Mike, saying that it is running ahead or behind the entire period will not cut it.  We have MacDonald's comments that were cited earlier absentee voting it was R +20 in "early voting"; it is now running slightly ahead of that and as of tomorrow, we'll go to "one stop," as well.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 07:01:29 PM
North Carolina

19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

The margin in North Carolina is almost exactly what it was at this point 4 years ago. Early in person voting started today so we should start seeing a big surge in total votes reported starting tomorrow. More votes will likely be cast in person today than the total mail in vote so far.

More votes will cast by "one stop" voters, but check the absentee applications, not the votes cast.  It tend to be prospective.  That was about R +20 in 2008.  It is + 22.7 currently.  

Actually Mail in Ballots were R +25.8% in 2008.



At this point in time?  Where are you statistics.  I did previously post Professor MacDonald's number.  

We have had this discussion before. The R+25.8% is for MIB for the whole election. You can find the info on the North Carolina Elections website, unfortunately while they break down everything by by sub groups they don't total it up so you have to do the math yourself.

Mail In Ballots in North Carolina in 2008

Republicans 122,411 (53.74%)
Democrats 63,701 (27.96%)
Libertarian 115 (0.05%)
Other 41,567 (18.25%)



Mike, saying that it is running ahead or behind the entire period will not cut it.  We have MacDonald's comments that were cited earlier absentee voting it was R +20 in "early voting"; it is now running slightly ahead of that and as of tomorrow, we'll go to "one stop," as well.

Honestly I have no clue what you are trying to say.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 07:29:55 PM
Florida Early Voting

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/
Quote
The daily update in the absentee-ballot war is like the others: Republicans leading, but not like they used to. Still, it's a lead.

Voted ballots:
Pty     ….Voted     ….% diff
REP        240,825    45%
DEM        212,281    40%
IND          83,584    16%
TOTAL        536,690    

 

Outstanding requests:
Pty    ...Request    …..% diff
REP        731,826    41%
DEM        719,627    40%
IND        345,120    19%
TOTAL     1,796,573    

Tough to get a read on Florida. Democrats are doing much better in absentee voting than they did 4 years ago (Reps +16) but is that because more Dems are voting absentee instead early in person because the in person window was shortened?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 07:56:42 PM


Honestly I have no clue what you are trying to say.

Well, let me put it this way.

According to the guy who tracks the statistics, NC was about R +20 at this point in time in 2008.  Today, in 2012, it is R + 22.7, in terms of applications for absentee ballots, and R  +27.1 in terms of those absentee ballots cast.  What part don't you understand?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 08:20:53 PM


Honestly I have no clue what you are trying to say.

Well, let me put it this way.

According to the guy who tracks the statistics, NC was about R +20 at this point in time in 2008.  Today, in 2012, it is R + 22.7, in terms of applications for absentee ballots, and R  +27.1 in terms of those absentee ballots cast.  What part don't you understand?

But that is just wrong.  It was R + 26.1 at this point in 2008, not R+20.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)





Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 08:35:08 PM
http://m.wral.com/w/news-top/story/75937761/
Quote
Early voting in NC outpaces 2008 turnout
Oct 18, 2012 7:47 p.m.
story image +

Raleigh, N.C. - Early voting in North Carolina got off to a fast start Thursday, surpassing 2008's first-day vote count of 117,372.

State Board of Elections Director Gary Bartlett said they won't have exact numbers for Thursday's turnout until Friday morning, but throngs of people swamped one-stop voting locations statewide and waited for up to an hour to cast ballots.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 18, 2012, 08:40:16 PM
So in just one day more people voted in person than all the ballots that have been mailed in over the past few weeks? Hahah.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 08:40:59 PM


But that is just wrong.  It was R + 26.1 at this point in 2008, not R+20.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)





First, you are using the 2012 numbers for 2008.

Second the 2008 absentee ballots received for 10/16/08 were:

arty

    Republicans:  54.71%
    Democrats:  29.17%  

That is a gap 25.5%.  Today the gap is 27.1.  So the votes received are about 1.6 point improvement, but the applications are still running higher for R voters, so the gap is likely to grow.
    


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
So in just one day more people voted in person than all the ballots that have been mailed in over the past few weeks? Hahah.

The mail votes only will count for about 8-10% of non election day votes. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 18, 2012, 08:50:54 PM


But that is just wrong.  It was R + 26.1 at this point in 2008, not R+20.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)





First, you are using the 2012 numbers for 2008.

Second the 2008 absentee ballots received for 10/16/08 were:

arty

    Republicans:  54.71%
    Democrats:  29.17%  

That is a gap 25.5%.  Today the gap is 27.1.  So the votes received are about 1.6 point improvement, but the applications are still running higher for R voters, so the gap is likely to grow.
    

I am using the numbers I got by hitting the "Compare to 2008" bar.

Bottom line numbers are very close to 2008 levels.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 18, 2012, 08:53:53 PM


But that is just wrong.  It was R + 26.1 at this point in 2008, not R+20.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/



19 Days before Election 2012.

Total- 67,350
Republicans- 36,514  (54.22%)
Democrats 18,251- (27.1%)


19 days before Election 2008

Total- 54,367
Republicans- 30,053 (55.0%)
Democrats- 15,786 (28.89%)





First, you are using the 2012 numbers for 2008.

Second the 2008 absentee ballots received for 10/16/08 were:

arty

    Republicans:  54.71%
    Democrats:  29.17%  

That is a gap 25.5%.  Today the gap is 27.1.  So the votes received are about 1.6 point improvement, but the applications are still running higher for R voters, so the gap is likely to grow.
    

I am using the numbers I got by hitting the "Compare to 2008" bar.

Bottom line numbers are very close to 2008 levels.

I copied them straight off the page.  And we are talking a slight shift to the GOP, but the state was only slightly D in 2008.  Obama carried it by less than 15,000.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 18, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Over at ACE in response to crazy marist IA early vote poll

Quote
18% of Iowans have voted, Not 34%, 18%. Which means the Marist finding (just like the Ohio one) is horsesh**te.

18%. Take your eyeballs over to the Secretary of States' website which shows a total of 284,000 in. Unless 2012 turnout is going to crash to unbelievable levels (was 1.5 million in 08, just under that in 04), that is 18%.

Demographic breakdown:
Democrats have a 54,000 vote edge, 49.4% to R's 30.3%, meaning Obama must be running better than 7/8ths of the Independent vote to approach your "35 point margin". In fact, the Democratic "advantage" so far matches the 2004 "advantage", a race they lost by over 10,000 votes.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 19, 2012, 03:25:34 AM
In Virginia, 18-25 year-olds currently comprise 22% of all early votes cast.

Apparently there was no in-person voting in Virginia in 2008. There were 200,679 mail-in ballots cast in Virginia in 2008. As of now it stands at 200,810. There have been around 136,000 mail-in ballots already received, with another 65,000 or so in-person early votes cast.

Source: elections.gmu.edu (http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 08:02:23 AM
We should see a swing to the D's today in NC, because of early voting.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 19, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
Over at ACE in response to crazy marist IA early vote poll

Quote
18% of Iowans have voted, Not 34%, 18%. Which means the Marist finding (just like the Ohio one) is horsesh**te.

18%. Take your eyeballs over to the Secretary of States' website which shows a total of 284,000 in. Unless 2012 turnout is going to crash to unbelievable levels (was 1.5 million in 08, just under that in 04), that is 18%.

Demographic breakdown:
Democrats have a 54,000 vote edge, 49.4% to R's 30.3%, meaning Obama must be running better than 7/8ths of the Independent vote to approach your "35 point margin". In fact, the Democratic "advantage" so far matches the 2004 "advantage", a race they lost by over 10,000 votes.


When polls ask if people voted early, I would imagine it includes those who plan to but haven't yet, etc.  You can't go by a running total because someone with a request in the mail will report themselves as voting early.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 10:11:30 AM
NC with One Stop voting:

Dem    47.3%
Rep    34.8%
None/Oth    17.9%

Race jumped, but age did not, with the younger group.  The electorate is skewing about 3 years older.

First day comparison from 2008:

D 52.1%
R 32.1%

R gain of about 7.5 points, in terms of the gap.  The age gap is higher than 2004 however.

Race is running about the same.  It is a slightly less white electorate, but under 0.5 points.

IA has a votes cast D +0.3 over 2008.  In terms of applications, R have improved from 2008 from a 18.8 gap to a 14.8 gap, though we don't have day to day comparisons.

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 19, 2012, 10:27:02 AM
Over at ACE in response to crazy marist IA early vote poll

Quote
18% of Iowans have voted, Not 34%, 18%. Which means the Marist finding (just like the Ohio one) is horsesh**te.

18%. Take your eyeballs over to the Secretary of States' website which shows a total of 284,000 in. Unless 2012 turnout is going to crash to unbelievable levels (was 1.5 million in 08, just under that in 04), that is 18%.

Demographic breakdown:
Democrats have a 54,000 vote edge, 49.4% to R's 30.3%, meaning Obama must be running better than 7/8ths of the Independent vote to approach your "35 point margin". In fact, the Democratic "advantage" so far matches the 2004 "advantage", a race they lost by over 10,000 votes.


When polls ask if people voted early, I would imagine it includes those who plan to but haven't yet, etc.  You can't go by a running total because someone with a request in the mail will report themselves as voting early.


I would imagine not, because they asked that question separately.


http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/18/14542135-polls-obama-holds-his-lead-in-iowa-wisconsin?lite


Thirty-four percent of likely voters in the poll say they have already cast their ballots, and the president is winning those people, 67 percent to 32 percent.

Another 11 percent are planning to vote early, and he’s up among that group, 55 percent to 39 percent.




Of course, ballots requested as of Oct 16 totaled 29% of the vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 19, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
Iowa absentees

Yesterday:

49.5% D
30.3% R
20.2% I


Today:

48.8% D
30.5% R
20.5% I



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 19, 2012, 01:57:44 PM
Quote
NEW HANOVER COUNTY, NC (WECT) – Early voting began across North Carolina Thursday morning and will continue until November 3.

The first day numbers this year have surpassed the first day numbers from the last presidential election. Statewide, over 150,000 voted compared to the 116,000 who cast ballots in 2008.

Of the 150,000 votes cast, 57% came from Democrats while 25% came from Republicans.

Those numbers are down for Democrats from the last presidential election when Democrats had 64% of the first day ballots compared to 20% for Republicans.

http://www.wect.com/story/19852629/dozens-turn-out-for-first-day-of-early-voting

While narrowing, it's still not bad for the Democrats. But considering that 2008 was really close, I would say Romney will win it this time by a few points.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 02:46:06 PM
Quote
NEW HANOVER COUNTY, NC (WECT) – Early voting began across North Carolina Thursday morning and will continue until November 3.

The first day numbers this year have surpassed the first day numbers from the last presidential election. Statewide, over 150,000 voted compared to the 116,000 who cast ballots in 2008.

Of the 150,000 votes cast, 57% came from Democrats while 25% came from Republicans.

Those numbers are down for Democrats from the last presidential election when Democrats had 64% of the first day ballots compared to 20% for Republicans.

http://www.wect.com/story/19852629/dozens-turn-out-for-first-day-of-early-voting

While narrowing, it's still not bad for the Democrats. But considering that 2008 was really close, I would say Romney will win it this time by a few points.

That has been my premise for a few weeks.

IA more strongly R as well, and both these are supported by the polls.

I wish we had decent numbers out of OH.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 19, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
Ethusigasms....


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 19, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Colorado mail-in ballots returned to date:

Republicans: 10,884
Democrats: 8,516
Unaffiliated: 5,727

http://www.denverpost.com/politics/ci_21810412/more-than-25k-colo-voters-have-cast-ballots

According to the Post, conservative Douglas County (suburban Denver) leads in returns thus far.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 19, 2012, 05:47:12 PM
Iowa absentees

Yesterday:

49.5% D
30.3% R
20.2% I


Today:

48.8% D
30.5% R
20.5% I



A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 05:57:00 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 19, 2012, 05:58:27 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore. 

What part of that is wrong?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 06:11:41 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore. 

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 19, 2012, 08:23:45 PM
I don't think anybody expects the Democrats will get the same percentage margins over Republicans in early voting in 2012 that they did in 2008 simply because this year the Romney Campaign is making an effort in Early Voting while McCain did not. To me the more interesting numbers will be comparing raw Democratic turnout in 2012 vs 2008. The Republican talking point the past couple of years has been that Democratic enthusiasm and turnout will be down this year, so far that does not seem to be the case. If Democrats show up in the numbers they did in 2008 Obama wins, simple as that.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 19, 2012, 08:47:53 PM
I don't think anybody expects the Democrats will get the same percentage margins over Republicans in early voting in 2012 that they did in 2008 simply because this year the Romney Campaign is making an effort in Early Voting while McCain did not. To me the more interesting numbers will be comparing raw Democratic turnout in 2012 vs 2008. The Republican talking point the past couple of years has been that Democratic enthusiasm and turnout will be down this year, so far that does not seem to be the case. If Democrats show up in the numbers they did in 2008 Obama wins, simple as that.

IF, right now you are correct. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 19, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
Iowa absentees

Yesterday:

49.5% D
30.3% R
20.2% I


Today:

48.8% D
30.5% R
20.5% I



A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

That's true. Thankfully, the Republicans have more voters than the Democrats and have turned out at higher rates in the past 2 presidential elections.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 19, 2012, 09:06:53 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore. 

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.

Not this week. Nor  in absolute terms.

10/12

Democrats 110,053
Republicans 57,341
Indies          38,801

Gap: 52,712

Today

Democrats 147,234
Republicans 92,072
Indies          61,833

Gap: 55,162

The Democratic absolute lead is growing and has been for a week and a half. But because that lead is less than the 17% margin overall from 2008, and turnout is on track to exceed 2008, the relative gap is falling.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
I don't think anybody expects the Democrats will get the same percentage margins over Republicans in early voting in 2012 that they did in 2008 simply because this year the Romney Campaign is making an effort in Early Voting while McCain did not. To me the more interesting numbers will be comparing raw Democratic turnout in 2012 vs 2008. The Republican talking point the past couple of years has been that Democratic enthusiasm and turnout will be down this year, so far that does not seem to be the case. If Democrats show up in the numbers they did in 2008 Obama wins, simple as that.

Not a good comparison.  The raw numbers are different percentages of turnout.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 09:37:29 PM
Actually, you should note that there was a massive influx of D requests at the start (noted by Tender Branson on page 2 or 3).  It is like the D's entered into battle and fired all their ammunition with the first shot. 

The requests have been soaring and the percentages have been closing.



Not this week. Nor  in absolute terms.

10/12

Democrats 110,053
Republicans 57,341
Indies          38,801

Gap: 52,712

Today

Democrats 147,234
Republicans 92,072
Indies          61,833

Gap: 55,162

The Democratic absolute lead is growing and has been for a week and a half. But because that lead is less than the 17% margin overall from 2008, and turnout is on track to exceed 2008, the relative gap is falling.



Iowa's absentee requests are interesting:

Dem    49.1%
Rep    29.0%
None/Oth    21.9%
   
in 1998, they were:

Dem 47
Rep 28.2
Other 24.8

Both the R and D have improved, the the D's still hold the edge.  It has closed a bit.

Today, in terms of absentee ballot requests, Iowa Republicans have closed the gap below the 2008 levels, but not by a lot.

Party Reg    
Dem    48.1%
Rep    29.7%
None/Oth    22.1%




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 19, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
I read that if the GOP keeps the diff at 60k or less in Iowa they should win.  Thoughts?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 19, 2012, 10:03:03 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore. 

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.

He said the Democrats have been gaining in raw votes.  You said "Actually, that is wrong," and then noted that their proportion of the ballots has decreased.  Those are different things.  You are awful.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 19, 2012, 10:06:19 PM
Actually, you should note that there was a massive influx of D requests at the start (noted by Tender Branson on page 2 or 3).  It is like the D's entered into battle and fired all their ammunition with the first shot. 

The requests have been soaring and the percentages have been closing.



Not this week. Nor  in absolute terms.

10/12

Democrats 110,053
Republicans 57,341
Indies          38,801

Gap: 52,712

Today

Democrats 147,234
Republicans 92,072
Indies          61,833

Gap: 55,162

The Democratic absolute lead is growing and has been for a week and a half. But because that lead is less than the 17% margin overall from 2008, and turnout is on track to exceed 2008, the relative gap is falling.



Iowa's absentee requests are interesting:

Dem    49.1%
Rep    29.0%
None/Oth    21.9%
   
in 1998, they were:

Dem 47
Rep 28.2
Other 24.8

Both the R and D have improved, the the D's still hold the edge.  It has closed a bit.

Today, in terms of absentee ballot requests, Iowa Republicans have closed the gap below the 2008 levels, but not by a lot.

Party Reg    
Dem    48.1%
Rep    29.7%
None/Oth    22.1%



If in the remaining early voting period the Democrats were to gain 85,000 votes, the Republicans 75,000, and Independents 53,000, the raw numbers would be about

232,000 D
167,000 R
115,000 I

Or in percentages

45% D
32.5% R
22.5% I

In effect, the GOP would have closed the gap to 12.5%.

But the Democratic net advantage would have increased to 65,000 votes in absolute terms compared to about 43,000 in 2004. Romney would need to outperform Bush by 12,000 votes on election day with a lower election day turnout(since Iowa's electorate is not increasing) in order to win.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on October 19, 2012, 10:06:20 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore.  

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.

He said the Democrats have been gaining in raw votes.  You said "Actually, that is wrong," and then noted that their proportion of the ballots has decreased.  Those are different things.  You are awful.

Yeah, JJ stated it poorly, but IF he's correct the point remains Democrats will reap a lower net vote total from pre-election day voting than in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 19, 2012, 10:12:21 PM
I read that if the GOP keeps the diff at 60k or less in Iowa they should win.  Thoughts?

Depends on total turnout. Ie. if 50% of voters vote early there are less election day voters left. So a 55,000 vote gap looks very different on a 600,000 turnout and a 450,000 one.

In 2004 the GOP trailed by about 53,000, 194K-141K. In 2008 they trailed by 93K, 250K to 157K.

Compared to 2008, Republicans are down 65K and Democrats are down 103K. Compared to 2004 Democrats are down 47K and Republicans are down 49K.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 19, 2012, 10:17:04 PM
Thanks,


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 19, 2012, 10:19:30 PM

Will be interesting as my guess right now is about a 63,000 Democratic lead in the end.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 19, 2012, 10:22:05 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore.  

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.

He said the Democrats have been gaining in raw votes.  You said "Actually, that is wrong," and then noted that their proportion of the ballots has decreased.  Those are different things.  You are awful.

Yeah, JJ stated it poorly, but IF he's correct the point remains Democrats will reap a lower net vote total from pre-election day voting than in 2008.

Well, it was top heavy initially with Democratic voters.  Even from the start, the percentage of D voters has dropped.  Since yesterday, the number of D voters has decreased relative to the R's.  The applications for absentee ballots are running more strongly for R's than D's and the percentage of R's have increased and D's have decreased in terms of percentage of the vote.

The percentage difference between R and D voters is smaller than 2008 and it appears that R's will be a larger percentage of the electorate in IA (and NC and OH) that it was in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 19, 2012, 10:29:02 PM

A relative drop is not an absolute one. More Democratic ballots were received yesterday than Republicans, as has been the case all week. Democrats gained about a net 1500 votes this week.

Actually, that is wrong.  The gap has been closing all week.  Branson initially posted how great the D's were doing.  They are not anymore.  

What part of that is wrong?

That the D's are gaining.  The gap has been closing, long term.

He said the Democrats have been gaining in raw votes.  You said "Actually, that is wrong," and then noted that their proportion of the ballots has decreased.  Those are different things.  You are awful.

Yeah, JJ stated it poorly, but IF he's correct the point remains Democrats will reap a lower net vote total from pre-election day voting than in 2008.

Absolutely.  Decreasing proportionally below 2008 numbers is bad for Democrats, unless it's just a matter of shifting Election Day GOP votes to GOP early voters.  Considering that would likely reflect higher enthusiasm among Republicans of all stripes, including sporadic voters, that's good for the GOP.

A net increase in votes with a decrease in proportional share is probably bad for the Democrats.  J. J. is right about that -- his "correction" was just wrong.


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: greenforest32 on October 20, 2012, 03:41:31 AM
Any forecasts on what percent of the total vote(s) will be done in September and October?

Check out my link above.

I guess Prof. McDonald will create a 2012 page soon.

Thanks. You can really see the dominance of vote by mail in Colorado there. I think they may become the third postal voting state.

I just came across this link[1] with more stats on this, including for all the states. I didn't realize vote-by-mail was such a big thing in Arizona too.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/07/us/voting-by-mail.html


Title: Re: The election begins in 3 weeks ...
Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on October 20, 2012, 10:52:16 AM
Any forecasts on what percent of the total vote(s) will be done in September and October?

Check out my link above.

I guess Prof. McDonald will create a 2012 page soon.

Thanks. You can really see the dominance of vote by mail in Colorado there. I think they may become the third postal voting state.

I just came across this link[1] with more stats on this, including for all the states. I didn't realize vote-by-mail was such a big thing in Arizona too.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/10/07/us/voting-by-mail.html
while their not swing states, Oregon and Washington with almost all votes by mail, so a postale problem could be incredibly serious.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 20, 2012, 11:19:32 AM
Ohio updated this morning, 11.1% early voting in.  Looks like PPP, Marist and SUSA are still not credible been plenty of time now for the results to catch up...... 

Keep lauding those polls :)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 20, 2012, 11:33:51 AM
North Carolina

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/

Total 387,724
Dem 191,417 (49.37%)
Rep 125,350 (32.33%)
UNA 70,306 (18.13%)
Lib 651 (0.17%)

White 259,736 (66.99%)
Black 111,781 (28.83%)

Total turnout and turnout for both parties is up from same point in 2008. Reps have cut into Dems percentage advantage which is not surprising since the are emphasizing early voting much more this cycle.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 20, 2012, 11:48:36 AM
Sounds good, Romney can improve marginally over McCain, win NC, and lose the election.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 20, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
Florida Early Voting Update

Voted ballots:

Party         Voted         %
REP         315,987    45%
DEM         277,253    39%
IND         110,188    16%
Total         703,428    

 

Outstanding requests:
Party       Requested            %
REP         688,438    40%
DEM         689,990    40%
IND         337,446    20%
Total      1,715,874    

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 20, 2012, 01:51:55 PM
Ohio updated this morning, 11.1% early voting in.  Looks like PPP, Marist and SUSA are still not credible been plenty of time now for the results to catch up...... 

Keep lauding those polls :)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Last week Obama had 74% of the early vote. Now it's 66%. People must be changing their early votes, lol.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Alcon on October 20, 2012, 02:16:51 PM
Ohio updated this morning, 11.1% early voting in.  Looks like PPP, Marist and SUSA are still not credible been plenty of time now for the results to catch up...... 

Keep lauding those polls :)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Last week Obama had 74% of the early vote. Now it's 66%. People must be changing their early votes, lol.

I hope you don't actually think that's how polls work.

Are all counties reporting totals?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 20, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Ohio updated this morning, 11.1% early voting in.  Looks like PPP, Marist and SUSA are still not credible been plenty of time now for the results to catch up...... 

Keep lauding those polls :)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Last week Obama had 74% of the early vote. Now it's 66%. People must be changing their early votes, lol.

I hope you don't actually think that's how polls work.

Are all counties reporting totals?

Look at the bottom of that page.

Also:

Counties update at different speeds.

Some counties do not include in-person numbers.

Some counties wait days to open returned absentees.

Worth noting that the one major county that both seems to count in-person and absentee numbers is both higher than that(15%) and has "Democrats" performing about 10 points better with returned absentees than with the requests everyone has been discussing re: party shifts.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 20, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
Quote
Jon Ralston ‏@RalstonReports

Huge lines being reported all over Las Vegas on first day of early voting. 60 or 70 percent will vote early in Clark County. #itmatters

Big turnout in Clark County would be a good thing for Dems.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2012, 04:05:34 PM
Hopefully the NV SOS reports party registration numbers of the early voters.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 20, 2012, 04:57:14 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.

He's using the Marist crap, not the actual ballots. 

The "one stop" registration and mail registrations not processed was just under a 40,000 vote net gain in 2008.  The R's had a 70,000 + gain.  On election day, there will be 30-40 K more Republicans than there were in 2008.  Obama's MOV was just under 14,200.

NC is gone for Obama.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
I think I'll trust someone who actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to early vote statistics over someone who thinks the Bradley Effect was a thing that happened in 2008, thanks JJ.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 20, 2012, 06:20:53 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.

He's using the Marist crap, not the actual ballots. 

The "one stop" registration and mail registrations not processed was just under a 40,000 vote net gain in 2008.  The R's had a 70,000 + gain.  On election day, there will be 30-40 K more Republicans than there were in 2008.  Obama's MOV was just under 14,200.

NC is gone for Obama.

Eh, you have the same problem with those stats as you do with Early voting. The current electorate is less white than 2008, but also the gap between Ds and Rs is less. The same is true of North Carolina. Republicans may have closed the gap by 70,000, but Democrats closed the gap by about 350K in terms of the White-Black/Hispanic/Other numbers. On election day in 2008, NC registration was 73.1% white. Today it is 71.4% white. Nonwhites are registering independent.

Obama on a simple demographic measurement has probably picked up abut a net 75,000 or so voters since November 2008. He has probably lost far more than that because of his poor performance as President and generally poor poll ratings, but I wish hacks would shut up about the supposed D-R % gap as if it meant anything at all. It does not. In NC the Racial demographics, and age breakdown of the white vote matter far more.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 20, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.

He's using the Marist crap, not the actual ballots. 

The "one stop" registration and mail registrations not processed was just under a 40,000 vote net gain in 2008.  The R's had a 70,000 + gain.  On election day, there will be 30-40 K more Republicans than there were in 2008.  Obama's MOV was just under 14,200.

NC is gone for Obama.


If Early voting in 2008 was 60-38, this fellow kindly trashed these junk polls showing early voting to be 67-33 this time around.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 20, 2012, 06:37:50 PM
Ohio updated this morning, 11.1% early voting in.  Looks like PPP, Marist and SUSA are still not credible been plenty of time now for the results to catch up...... 

Keep lauding those polls :)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Last week Obama had 74% of the early vote. Now it's 66%. People must be changing their early votes, lol.

I hope you don't actually think that's how polls work.

Are all counties reporting totals?

Not all, no, but the big ones are. A cursory glance of the big counties shows that they aren't even close to 19%, let alone 21% as of 7 days ago.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 20, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
Not all, no, but the big ones are. A cursory glance of the big counties shows that they aren't even close to 19%, let alone 21% as of 7 days ago.

Dan noted that counties don't always update their numbers daily and report them.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 20, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
Not all, no, but the big ones are. A cursory glance of the big counties shows that they aren't even close to 19%, let alone 21% as of 7 days ago.

Dan noted that counties don't always update their numbers daily and report them.

In fairness, both Cuyahoga and Franklin appear to do so, at least for in-person. Whats unclear is whether anyone is counting absentees as they come in. Counties clearly did so prior to the start of in-person voting, but they did not do so in an organized manner. Numbers were released, but it was unclear if these ballots were all of the returned ballots, or some selected at random.

Really there is no reason for county officials, dealing with in-person voting, a Supreme Court fight over in-person hours two weeks from now, and a whole lot of other stuff to bother going through every piece of mail they receive every day.

As a consequence I would probably use a number around 80% of the absentee requests. Which still gets you a number probably around 20% or so of 2008 turnout. Worth noting though its likely the electorate is smaller now, and that may well end up being 22-23%.

Iowa figures are almost certainly bunk though.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 20, 2012, 06:58:01 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.

He's using the Marist crap, not the actual ballots. 

The "one stop" registration and mail registrations not processed was just under a 40,000 vote net gain in 2008.  The R's had a 70,000 + gain.  On election day, there will be 30-40 K more Republicans than there were in 2008.  Obama's MOV was just under 14,200.

NC is gone for Obama.

Eh, you have the same problem with those stats as you do with Early voting. The current electorate is less white than 2008, but also the gap between Ds and Rs is less. The same is true of North Carolina. Republicans may have closed the gap by 70,000, but Democrats closed the gap by about 350K in terms of the White-Black/Hispanic/Other numbers. On election day in 2008, NC registration was 73.1% white. Today it is 71.4% white. Nonwhites are registering independent.

Obama on a simple demographic measurement has probably picked up abut a net 75,000 or so voters since November 2008. He has probably lost far more than that because of his poor performance as President and generally poor poll ratings, but I wish hacks would shut up about the supposed D-R % gap as if it meant anything at all. It does not. In NC the Racial demographics, and age breakdown of the white vote matter far more.

I terms of actual voters, the R/D gap is hugely important.  Most people register for a party based on their ideology.  Someone who just loves Obama doesn't say, "Hey, I think I'll register Republican."

Also, so far, the racial divide in NC is up by about 2%, but the party affiliation number is up by about the same amount.  Further, the electorate is skewing older.  

NC is gone.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 20, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
Washoe County Nevada.

Nevada's swing county.

Early Vote day 1

Total 9,638

Dems 4,604 (47.77%)
Reps 3,619 (37.54%)
Other 1,415 (14.68%)

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html





Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 20, 2012, 09:13:51 PM
Washoe County Nevada.

Nevada's swing county.

Early Vote day 1

Total 9,638

Dems 4,604 (47.77%)
Reps 3,619 (37.54%)
Other 1,415 (14.68%)

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html





Now, how do these compare to last time?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 20, 2012, 09:25:50 PM
Day 1 2008 (Sorry no link. Being the geek I am I had these numbers saved on my computer)

Total 6,554

Dems 3,909 (59.64%)
Rep 1,668 (25.45%)
Other 977 (14.91%)

FWIW Republicans do hold a small voter registration advantage in Washoe county. Any Democratic lead, even a smaller one than in 2008, is good news for the Dems.




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 20, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
Nevada is going to prob be the toughest battleground for Romney.   The party was a mess thanks to Paulbots, lot of challenges there, I think they did a great job recovering but may be to little.  Pretty sure the Dems have a pretty good registration advantage.

This is a good guy to follow on NV
https://twitter.com/RalstonReports


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 20, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
Day 1 2008 (Sorry no link. Being the geek I am I had these numbers saved on my computer)

Total 6,554

Dems 3,909 (59.64%)
Rep 1,668 (25.45%)
Other 977 (14.91%)

FWIW Republicans do hold a small voter registration advantage in Washoe county. Any Democratic lead, even a smaller one than in 2008, is good news for the Dems.


Not really.  This is a turnout situation, so comparing 2008 to today is a better indicator.  Obama won it 55 to 42, but he probably won the early voters, since that was the pattern in other states.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 20, 2012, 11:40:04 PM
Michael McDonald's released another update on early voting (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)).

Quote
Iowa is firming up for Obama. The early vote confirms the polls showing an Obama lead, but by a narrower margin than 2008. Romney still has time to make up ground, but with over 300,000 people voting the clock is certainly ticking.

The early vote indicates that Florida and Ohio are close. We knew that already.

North Carolina started in-person early voting and the early vote numbers shifted dramatically towards registered Democrats. This is expected, as more registered Democrats voted early than Republicans in 2008 and 2004. A point of interest is that North Carolina allows unregistered voters to register and vote all in "one stop." This has the potential of shifting likely voter models since unregistered voters don't make the likely voter screen.

So far there's very little evidence from the early voting numbers that Republicans have some huge enthusiasm advantage.

He's using the Marist crap, not the actual ballots. 

The "one stop" registration and mail registrations not processed was just under a 40,000 vote net gain in 2008.  The R's had a 70,000 + gain.  On election day, there will be 30-40 K more Republicans than there were in 2008.  Obama's MOV was just under 14,200.

NC is gone for Obama.

Eh, you have the same problem with those stats as you do with Early voting. The current electorate is less white than 2008, but also the gap between Ds and Rs is less. The same is true of North Carolina. Republicans may have closed the gap by 70,000, but Democrats closed the gap by about 350K in terms of the White-Black/Hispanic/Other numbers. On election day in 2008, NC registration was 73.1% white. Today it is 71.4% white. Nonwhites are registering independent.

Obama on a simple demographic measurement has probably picked up abut a net 75,000 or so voters since November 2008. He has probably lost far more than that because of his poor performance as President and generally poor poll ratings, but I wish hacks would shut up about the supposed D-R % gap as if it meant anything at all. It does not. In NC the Racial demographics, and age breakdown of the white vote matter far more.

I terms of actual voters, the R/D gap is hugely important.  Most people register for a party based on their ideology.  Someone who just loves Obama doesn't say, "Hey, I think I'll register Republican."

Also, so far, the racial divide in NC is up by about 2%, but the party affiliation number is up by about the same amount.  Further, the electorate is skewing older.  

NC is gone.

The median age fell 8 years in two days. I would hold your horses on declarations about that. Secondly, black democrats vote very differently than white democrats. If Blacks are voting we know they are voting 95-5 Obama. Black Democrats will vote 99-1 Obama. White Democrats 75-25. Black Independents 85-15.

Demographics are especially important in a state like NC, far more important than Party ID given the number of DINOS.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 20, 2012, 11:45:58 PM
Basically my point is that if Blacks are up 2 Points, but the D-R gap down, those missing Ds almost certainly were not Obama voters, and probably weren't in 2008.

Raw numbers matter here. More Democrats are turning out than 2008. More Blacks are turning out. More Republicans are also turning out. All you can do with EV/GOTV is get your voters out. Everywhere Early voting is happening, Democrats are voting. That Republicans are voting at a higher rate as well is obviously a factor that must be taken into account. But it does not indicate a failure on the part of Democrats, or any dropoff or sign of weakness. Rather it indicates Republican strength.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 21, 2012, 12:53:33 AM
:o

Quote
COLUMBUS — An Ohio history professor’s analysis of absentee ballot requests found a significant shift in Republican enthusiasm in the battleground state since 2008.

The University of Dayton’s Larry Schweikart tallied absentee ballot requests so far in 2012 and compared them to similar requests four years ago. His review showed a 7-point swing in favor of the GOP.

Still more Democrats than Republicans requested early ballots, but Democrats’ percentage advantage has shifted from 33-19 in 2008 to 30-23 this year.

“In 2008, Obama cleaned McCain in absentee voting,” Schweikart said in a news release announcing the findings. “McCain actually won the statewide vote on Election Day, but he was too far buried in the absentee and early vote count. Early voting in Ohio began earlier this month and could still produce some surprises.”

Schweikart found some of the most significant swings came in the state’s large, heavily Democratic urban counties. Summit County, where Akron is located, led urban counties in pro-Republican swings with a 24-point shift.

“In terms of absentee ballot requests, Republicans are hugely over-performing their 2008 levels, and the Democrats are underperforming compared to 2008, especially in the big counties,” he said. “What this means is that the polls are wrong. For weeks polls have shown an Obama lead ranging from 1 point to 8 points. But these absentee ballot requests reflect a huge enthusiasm gap among Democrats and Republicans, and I’m predicting a total shift from 2008.”

The analysis assumes undeclared voters will be evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.


http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/viewart/20121020/NEWS01/310200012/GOP-voters-flock-early-ballots


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 21, 2012, 01:08:19 AM
:o

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COLUMBUS — An Ohio history professor’s analysis of absentee ballot requests found a significant shift in Republican enthusiasm in the battleground state since 2008.

The University of Dayton’s Larry Schweikart tallied absentee ballot requests so far in 2012 and compared them to similar requests four years ago. His review showed a 7-point swing in favor of the GOP.

Still more Democrats than Republicans requested early ballots, but Democrats’ percentage advantage has shifted from 33-19 in 2008 to 30-23 this year.

“In 2008, Obama cleaned McCain in absentee voting,” Schweikart said in a news release announcing the findings. “McCain actually won the statewide vote on Election Day, but he was too far buried in the absentee and early vote count. Early voting in Ohio began earlier this month and could still produce some surprises.”

Schweikart found some of the most significant swings came in the state’s large, heavily Democratic urban counties. Summit County, where Akron is located, led urban counties in pro-Republican swings with a 24-point shift.

“In terms of absentee ballot requests, Republicans are hugely over-performing their 2008 levels, and the Democrats are underperforming compared to 2008, especially in the big counties,” he said. “What this means is that the polls are wrong. For weeks polls have shown an Obama lead ranging from 1 point to 8 points. But these absentee ballot requests reflect a huge enthusiasm gap among Democrats and Republicans, and I’m predicting a total shift from 2008.”

The analysis assumes undeclared voters will be evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.


http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/viewart/20121020/NEWS01/310200012/GOP-voters-flock-early-ballots

Does he account for the uncontested D primary this year vs. 2008?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 21, 2012, 01:10:04 AM
:o

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COLUMBUS — An Ohio history professor’s analysis of absentee ballot requests found a significant shift in Republican enthusiasm in the battleground state since 2008.

The University of Dayton’s Larry Schweikart tallied absentee ballot requests so far in 2012 and compared them to similar requests four years ago. His review showed a 7-point swing in favor of the GOP.

Still more Democrats than Republicans requested early ballots, but Democrats’ percentage advantage has shifted from 33-19 in 2008 to 30-23 this year.

“In 2008, Obama cleaned McCain in absentee voting,” Schweikart said in a news release announcing the findings. “McCain actually won the statewide vote on Election Day, but he was too far buried in the absentee and early vote count. Early voting in Ohio began earlier this month and could still produce some surprises.”

Schweikart found some of the most significant swings came in the state’s large, heavily Democratic urban counties. Summit County, where Akron is located, led urban counties in pro-Republican swings with a 24-point shift.

“In terms of absentee ballot requests, Republicans are hugely over-performing their 2008 levels, and the Democrats are underperforming compared to 2008, especially in the big counties,” he said. “What this means is that the polls are wrong. For weeks polls have shown an Obama lead ranging from 1 point to 8 points. But these absentee ballot requests reflect a huge enthusiasm gap among Democrats and Republicans, and I’m predicting a total shift from 2008.”

The analysis assumes undeclared voters will be evenly split between Republicans and Democrats.


http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/viewart/20121020/NEWS01/310200012/GOP-voters-flock-early-ballots

Isn't it more complicated in OH, because ballot requests are measured as a percentage of those who voted in the presidential primaries ?

But yeah, I guess it's quite hard for Obama to beat ANY early voting numbers from 2008, because 2008 was simply 2008 ... :P

But even though Republicans gain among early voters, we of course still don't know how the Indies vote and how many cross over in the 2 parties to support the other guy.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 21, 2012, 04:32:35 AM
Larry Schweikart is a freeper who writes conservative history books and predicted a Blackwell win on FR because of the R strength he personally observed in SW Ohio.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 07:39:19 AM

The median age fell 8 years in two days. I would hold your horses on declarations about that. Secondly, black democrats vote very differently than white democrats. If Blacks are voting we know they are voting 95-5 Obama. Black Democrats will vote 99-1 Obama. White Democrats 75-25. Black Independents 85-15.

Demographics are especially important in a state like NC, far more important than Party ID given the number of DINOS.

Even comparing the median age with the same points in time in 2008, 2012 is an older electorate.

I also took a look at the week after registration ended.  That was this past week and the D's had a net gain of 11,000 votes.  In 2008, it was 36,000.  The trending is not there.  NC is going R this year, and both campaigns have pulled resources.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 21, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
I terms of actual voters, the R/D gap is hugely important.  Most people register for a party based on their ideology.  Someone who just loves Obama doesn't say, "Hey, I think I'll register Republican."

Also, so far, the racial divide in NC is up by about 2%, but the party affiliation number is up by about the same amount.  Further, the electorate is skewing older.  

NC is gone.


Blacks have added about 120k voters, and other minorities 100k, over the past 4 years. In the meanwhile they lost 180k or so white Democrats.


The dropoff probably mixes olds and college kids in the triangle.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 09:02:38 AM
I terms of actual voters, the R/D gap is hugely important.  Most people register for a party based on their ideology.  Someone who just loves Obama doesn't say, "Hey, I think I'll register Republican."

Also, so far, the racial divide in NC is up by about 2%, but the party affiliation number is up by about the same amount.  Further, the electorate is skewing older.  

NC is gone.


Blacks have added about 120k voters, and other minorities 100k, over the past 4 years. In the meanwhile they lost 180k or so white Democrats.


The dropoff probably mixes olds and college kids in the triangle.

Olds voting are up this year, at this point. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 21, 2012, 11:11:54 AM
North Carolina Update

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Good day for Democratic, African American turnout yesterday.

Total turnout 457,824

Party Reg    
Dem    50.2%
Rep    31.2%
None/Oth    18.5%

Age    

18-29    9.8%
30-44    15.4%
45-59    27.7%
60+    47.1%

Race    

White    65.6%
Black    29.9%
Other    4.5%

Gender    

Female    55.2%
Male    43.8%
Unk.    0.9%

Method    

In-person    82.4%
Mail    17.6%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 21, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
For comparison purposes, the final 2008 numbers were 51% D and 30% R. So a net gain of 2 for the Rs so far.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2012, 12:28:00 PM
Democrats have large advantages in Clark and Washoe country after the first day of early voting. Nevada may be off the table for Romney by next weekend.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 12:35:30 PM
Democrats have large advantages in Clark and Washoe country after the first day of early voting. Nevada may be off the table for Romney by next weekend.

Possibly, but we don't know if he is doing better or worse than 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2012, 12:37:34 PM
He won by 13% in 2008. He can afford to do a lot worse and still win easily.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 01:34:43 PM
He won by 13% in 2008. He can afford to do a lot worse and still win easily.

We don't know the percentages in 2008.  He could be doing far better or far worse.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
Washoe County Nevada.

Nevada's swing county.

Early Vote day 1

Total 9,638

Dems 4,604 (47.77%)
Reps 3,619 (37.54%)
Other 1,415 (14.68%)

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html


The final in 2008 was:

Dem
   47.1%
Rep
   35.3%
No/Oth
   17.5%

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

I would caution against making comparisons, but the gap is currently lower.
   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 21, 2012, 04:43:25 PM
Washoe County Nevada.

Nevada's swing county.

Early Vote day 1

Total 9,638

Dems 4,604 (47.77%)
Reps 3,619 (37.54%)
Other 1,415 (14.68%)

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html


The final in 2008 was:

Dem
   47.1%
Rep
   35.3%
No/Oth
   17.5%

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

I would caution against making comparisons, but the gap is currently lower.
   

2008 early voting was a disaster for the Republicans, if they can't improve on those horrible numbers they should just give up.

BTW it's not an apples to apples comparison but in 2010 Republicans had a small lead in early voting in Washoe county and Sharon Angle still lost. If they can't come at least close in 2012 (within 5%?) I don't see how Romney wins.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 04:56:13 PM

2008 early voting was a disaster for the Republicans, if they can't improve on those horrible numbers they should just give up.


Well, it seems to be better and, in general, the early vote gets front loaded D (as it did in IA).  If we had a same point in time comparison, we might have a better understanding of what's happening.

Basically, NV shows some indication of being a more R electorate, but it too early to tell. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2012, 05:38:35 PM
http://ralstonreports.com/blog/final-thoughts-first-day-early-voting-what-look-next#.UIR4v_k5y5I

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---Republicans -- at least some -- are claiming the Democratic machine did not work as well in Clark because the margin is only a landslide (55-29) after the first day and not a super-landslide (60-23) as it was in '08. Well, ok. But the Democrats still turned out MORE voters than in '08 -- 3,000 more. Their machine is working just fine, and the GOP "machine" almost got to 30 percent of the vote. This is still a slaughter, folks.

----Absentees are making the Republicans closer -- the deficit is just under 20 points, still 5 points above the registration in Clark. But the GOP needs to cut into the raw vote number with absentees, and that didn't happen -- at least not yet.

----Indies could (if the margin gets closer) decide the election. But their raw numbers (5,228) are less than a third of Democrats and only about half of Republicans. In terms of percent of their voters who turned out, it was: Democrats, 5 percent; Republicans, 3.5 percent; and others, 2.5 percent. The smaller the overall percentage of the electorate the "others" are, the less impact they will have on the election. They were 16 percent on the first day in Clark.

----Despite Republicans making the point that they do better on Election Day, that's not necessarily true in Clark -- at least not by much. They may be able to reduce the Democratic lead by 2 or 3 points, but not much more than that, considering how many people will have voted early in Southern Nevada.

----Watch for trends. One day is not a trend. So let's see what happens. If the Democrats build up a big enough lead by the end of the two weeks, it will be a firewall against what will happen in rural Nevada. But if the Republicans can keep it relatively close in Clark -- that is, losing the early vote by single digits -- they will have a real chance to win the state for Mitt Romney -- if he can do well in Washoe. President Obama lost the cow counties by 25,000 votes in 2008. He also won Washoe County by 23,000 votes and Clark by 123,000. Surely, the Washoe and Clark numbers will be smaller and the rural number perhaps slightly bigger (30-35,000 would not be out of the question). So look at what the lead is in Clark and what the numbers are in Washoe to see if they can offset that rural loss by extrapolating.

ADDENDUM: One other trend I forgot to mention  in that turnout tends to be signficantly higher in the second week of early voting than the first. So the frist day is a relatively small data sample. And we will know more after the first week if either side starts to show diminishing results.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
Republicans lost Washoe County again today, 2262 to 1830.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
Republicans lost Washoe County again today, 2262 to 1830.

What was the total vote and what was the percentage?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 21, 2012, 09:51:24 PM
Republicans lost Washoe County again today, 2262 to 1830.

What was the total vote and what was the percentage?

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Republicans lost Washoe County again today, 2262 to 1830.

What was the total vote and what was the percentage?

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html

So we are talking about, so far:

D 46.7%

R 36.9%

O  16.4%

The gap closed slightly since yesterday and is running about 2 points below 2008.  The key words are "so far."


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on October 21, 2012, 10:49:35 PM
How is Clark County, NV (home of Las Vegas) doing?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 11:30:35 PM
Okay, we have three states, IA (in terms of applications), NC, and NV, where, so far, R's are running a little bit ahead of 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 21, 2012, 11:42:40 PM
Okay, we have three states, IA (in terms of applications), NC, and NV, where, so far, R's are running a little bit ahead of 2008. 
Which, in an election like this, still has to be considered good news for Obama, no? I mean, he doesn't need 350, just 270. Or will there be so much smaller a gap on actual election day that this shift could be significant?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 21, 2012, 11:46:00 PM
How is Clark County, NV (home of Las Vegas) doing?

Clark is running a bit more strongly in the first day. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2012, 11:49:33 PM
Okay, we have three states, IA (in terms of applications), NC, and NV, where, so far, R's are running a little bit ahead of 2008. 
Which, in an election like this, still has to be considered good news for Obama, no? I mean, he doesn't need 350, just 270. Or will there be so much smaller a gap on actual election day that this shift could be significant?

Yeah, exactly. It would be horrible, awful news for Romney (and shocking news for everyone else) if Republicans weren't running ahead of their 2008 numbers. But so far in Iowa and Nevada at least (it's hard to tell in Florida and Ohio) it doesn't look like it's by enough to overturn Obama's 2008 margins of victory.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on October 21, 2012, 11:54:13 PM
The West will save Obama just like it saved the Democratic Senate in 2010, I'm starting to believe.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 22, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
Jon Ralston reports that early voting is up significantly over 2008 so far, 59k versus 49k. Already 7% of the 2008 turnout has voted, after just two days of early voting.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 22, 2012, 12:08:37 AM
Okay, we have three states, IA (in terms of applications), NC, and NV, where, so far, R's are running a little bit ahead of 2008. 
Which, in an election like this, still has to be considered good news for Obama, no? I mean, he doesn't need 350, just 270. Or will there be so much smaller a gap on actual election day that this shift could be significant?

No.  From what we were seeing this is the time of D peak in early voting, at least in NC.  It looks like the had a net loss in same day registration in the last weeks 2008.  They will probably peek in that category this coming week.   We can see the peek, and we know it is slightly lower than 2008; how deep will the valley be?  

In IA and NC the indications are that there will be an influx in R's.  Now in neither case will that probably be enough to give Romney the lead in early or absentee voting, but it might give him the lead when combined with election day voting.

It is also a measure of enthusiasm.  


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 22, 2012, 06:21:13 AM
J.J., I don't believe anyone will dispute that Republicans will do better this year than in 2008.

The problem is, stating this fact is banal. We know Republicans will do better. But the deficit to overcome in these states (except NC) is so enormous that statements like this are meaningless. Romney can win NC narrowly, lose Iowa narrowly, and lose Nevada by mid single digits and lost the election. There is simply no value in noting that Republicans are doing slightly better than in 2008, even if you talk about "trends" and "closing."

Also: Florida.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 22, 2012, 09:37:54 AM
NC

Dem    48.1%
Rep    30.9%
None/Oth    21.0%

Black voters are running at about 5 points higher than 2008 final.  Under 45 voters are running more than 12 points behind there final 2008.  In 2008, this looks like the top week for the D's.  R's are still a fractional point ahead of the 2008 final.

IA has not updated.

J.J., I don't believe anyone will dispute that Republicans will do better this year than in 2008.

The problem is, stating this fact is banal. We know Republicans will do better. But the deficit to overcome in these states (except NC) is so enormous that statements like this are meaningless. Romney can win NC narrowly, lose Iowa narrowly, and lose Nevada by mid single digits and lost the election. There is simply no value in noting that Republicans are doing slightly better than in 2008, even if you talk about "trends" and "closing."

Also: Florida.

A number of posts have been disputing that, or hinting at it.  The margin is important as is the demographics (where we have it).  I really can't figure out why we wouldn't be talking about this on this thread.

FL curtained in person voting (or tried to) forcing more people to use an absentee ballot.  IA, from what I understand, is permitting it in some situations that would likely benefit R's slightly.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 22, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
Iowa Friday:

R: 92072
D: 147234
I: 61833


R: 30.5%
D: 48.8%
I: 20.5%



Iowa today:

R: 99680
D: 155089
I: 67553

R: 30.9%
D: 48.1%
I: 20.9%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 22, 2012, 04:56:47 PM
Here's an easy to read, day by day record of the NV early vote: http://nvsos.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=2491

It looks like absentee ballots + two days of early vote has already resulted in 10% of 2008's turnout. That's crazy.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 22, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
Here's an easy to read, day by day record of the NV early vote: http://nvsos.gov/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=2491

It looks like absentee ballots + two days of early vote has already resulted in 10% of 2008's turnout. That's crazy.

Thanks.  It is running about D +1.1 points over the end numbers in 2008.  It is not too crazy as this was a weekend and a number of people like to get it out of the way. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 01:38:49 AM
Very strong day for Democrats in North Carolina today, increasing their lead and increasing the black percentage above 30%. The D-R gap is currently 20.2%, compared to the final D+12.6% in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 07:18:15 AM
Very strong day for Democrats in North Carolina today, increasing their lead and increasing the black percentage above 30%. The D-R gap is currently 20.2%, compared to the final D+12.6% in 2008.

Judging same day registration from 2008, this week should be the highest week for D's.  They are still running below their 2008 numbers (though that might change).

The R's surged in the last week in 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 07:27:09 AM
If the Dems have a higher margin than the Rs than last time, but are below their 2008 numbers, does the imply the Rs are also underperforming their '08 numbers, J.J.?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
If the Dems have a higher margin than the Rs than last time, but are below their 2008 numbers, does the imply the Rs are also underperforming their '08 numbers, J.J.?

This week, probably not.  Looking at the registrations in 2008 (which would have been the same day registrations), R's came out in early voting in the last week.  The D's will probably have to run up their totals this week.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 07:42:33 AM
I'm not understanding the fuzziness. Either they are or they aren't no? Aside from predictions for next week.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 08:26:18 AM
I'm not understanding the fuzziness. Either they are or they aren't no? Aside from predictions for next week.

What part of "probably not," don't you understand?  :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 08:31:12 AM
I'm not understanding the fuzziness. Either they are or they aren't no? Aside from predictions for next week.

What part of "probably not," don't you understand?  :)

The use of the word "probably."


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
Washoe County Nevada.

Nevada's swing county.

Early Vote day 1

Total 9,638

Dems 4,604 (47.77%)
Reps 3,619 (37.54%)
Other 1,415 (14.68%)

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html





Washoe is in today: 

Party Reg    
Dem    45.7%
Rep    39.1%
None/Oth    15.2%
   


In terms of raw votes, R's outnumbered D's slightly in Monday's vote.  http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html

It might be a weekday thing, however.

It is now running 3.8 points above the final 2008 number.  Again, it might be just that more R's come out on weekdays. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 09:38:41 AM
NC is now R +0.3 points over 2008 final.  D's are now running -9.4 points where they were at this point in time in 2008.  Sorry if some of you find that "fuzziness."   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 10:02:30 AM
NC is now R +0.3 points over 2008 final.  D's are now running -9.4 points where they were at this point in time in 2008.  Sorry if some of you find that "fuzziness."   

No need to apologize, but I don't understand why you'd use one point of time as a reference for the Dems but a different point in time for the Republicans. What's the rationale for that? How are the R's doing compared to this point in time in 2008? How are the D's doing compared to the 2008 final?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
NC is now R +0.3 points over 2008 final.  D's are now running -9.4 points where they were at this point in time in 2008.  Sorry if some of you find that "fuzziness."   

No need to apologize, but I don't understand why you'd use one point of time as a reference for the Dems but a different point in time for the Republicans. What's the rationale for that? How are the R's doing compared to this point in time in 2008? How are the D's doing compared to the 2008 final?

That is how they were doing at this point in time.  I doubled checked and at 10/20/08 vhere were the NC numbers:

D 56.3%
R 27.2%

D + 29.1

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1224486000/

Yesterday

D 51.2
R 30.2

D +21.0

It should be an 8.1 point closing (did my math wrong).  That is significant, especially when the D's carried the state by < 0.6. 

This is the time when you get much of the D turnout.  In 2008, R's ended up with 30.2 and D's with 51.4.  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

This is very bad news for Obama in NC. 





Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
NC is now R +0.3 points over 2008 final.  D's are now running -9.4 points where they were at this point in time in 2008.  Sorry if some of you find that "fuzziness."   

No need to apologize, but I don't understand why you'd use one point of time as a reference for the Dems but a different point in time for the Republicans. What's the rationale for that? How are the R's doing compared to this point in time in 2008? How are the D's doing compared to the 2008 final?

That is how they were doing at this point in time.  I doubled checked and at 10/20/08 vhere were the NC numbers:

D 56.3%
R 27.2%

D + 29.1

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1224486000/

Yesterday

D 51.2
R 30.2

D +21.0

It should be an 8.1 point closing (did my math wrong).  That is significant, especially when the D's carried the state by < 0.6. 

This is the time when you get much of the D turnout.  In 2008, R's ended up with 30.2 and D's with 51.4.  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

This is very bad news for Obama in NC. 



Yep. Voting among 18-29 is down from 11.1% to 9.9%. Those are the only whites that Obama wins any big share of and they are down.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 10:49:44 AM
From what I can tell, there is a higher black voter turnout.  Obama appears to be losing white Democrats in NC, in terms of turnout.  That does not bode well nationally. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 11:22:42 AM
IA:

Dem    47.3%
Rep    31.3%
None/Oth    21.4%

The R's are running 2 points ahead of the 2008 final.  Applications, as opposed to returned ballots, are running about 3 points lower for the D's than the returned ballot. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 02:34:09 PM
From what I can tell, there is a higher black voter turnout.  Obama appears to be losing white Democrats in NC, in terms of turnout.  That does not bode well nationally. 

Yes, if Obama can't win the votes of southern whites registered as Democrats, he's utterly screwed in Ohio and Nevada.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
Nevada turnout so far:

Dem 48.6%
Rep 35.4%
Ind 15.9%

Poll data on how early voters have voted (ARG, a favorable poll for Romney):

Obama: 57%
Romney: 43%

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/NV12.html

If Romney is only splitting Indys with Obama, he's doomed in Nevada.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 02:59:29 PM
http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/AbsenteeVoterbyCityReport11062012.pdf


Cuyahoga absentee + early voting is totaling 13% of registration and 16% of 2008 vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 03:05:04 PM
From what I can tell, there is a higher black voter turnout.  Obama appears to be losing white Democrats in NC, in terms of turnout.  That does not bode well nationally. 

Yes, if Obama can't win the votes of southern whites registered as Democrats, he's utterly screwed in Ohio and Nevada.

He got them to come out for him last time.  And a lot of northerners resemble the southern Democrats in PA, OH, NY (upstate), especially at the CD level.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%

We'd still need a comparison with 2008.  It is currently R +7.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
Nevada turnout so far:

Dem 48.6%
Rep 35.4%
Ind 15.9%

Poll data on how early voters have voted (ARG, a favorable poll for Romney):

Obama: 57%
Romney: 43%

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/NV12.html

If Romney is only splitting Indys with Obama, he's doomed in Nevada.

Most polls show Obama tied or winning independents in Nevada, IIRC.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Likely Voter on October 23, 2012, 04:19:08 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%

We'd still need a comparison with 2008.  It is currently R +7.

D+2 for the entire EV period.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 23, 2012, 04:44:59 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 05:06:55 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.

Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.  NV is on my "possible" list, but I credited it for Obama, because the polling tended to be off in 2008.  It is possible that Romney could take it. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 05:10:15 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on October 23, 2012, 05:21:16 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.

Yeah, at the current pace Romney would lose by 5-6 points.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 05:23:14 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.

Like I said, it is flippable, but I still give it to Obama, at this point in time.  I would say Obama by 1-2 points.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 05:32:43 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.

Like I said, it is flippable, but I still give it to Obama, at this point in time.  I would say Obama by 1-2 points.

How generous of you.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on October 23, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.

Like I said, it is flippable, but I still give it to Obama, at this point in time.  I would say Obama by 1-2 points.

Oh please, JJ.

Obama is going to win NV by 5-6 points.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 05:58:35 PM
Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.

Not by nearly enough for him to win the state.

Like I said, it is flippable, but I still give it to Obama, at this point in time.  I would say Obama by 1-2 points.

How generous of you.



Oh please, JJ.

Obama is going to win NV by 5-6 points.

5-6 points even today is unlikely.  We've been noting the shift in the early voting.

I do find it interesting how much the battleground has shifted on this thread.  We were talking about how NC was going Obama, then IA, now NV.  :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 06:00:28 PM
5-6 points is far from unlikely. Jon Ralston was talking about a possible Obama victory of that size just today.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on October 23, 2012, 06:04:32 PM
5-6 points is far from unlikely. Jon Ralston was talking about a possible Obama victory of that size just today.

This.

To say Obama will only win NV by 1-2 is a bit of a stretch IMO. Democrats generally under-poll in NV and their ground game is among the best in the country.

Obama won't win by 2008 margins, but he should win by 5-6 points much like Reid did in 2010.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
5-6 points is far from unlikely. Jon Ralston was talking about a possible Obama victory of that size just today.

This.

To say Obama will only win NV by 1-2 is a bit of a stretch IMO. Democrats generally under-poll in NV and their ground game is among the best in the country.

Obama won't win by 2008 margins, but he should win by 5-6 points much like Reid did in 2010.

Today the early vote gap in Clark Co. slightly lower than the final in 2008, 0.8 R gain.

Today the early vote gap in Washoe Co. was +4.8 R points than the 2008 final.  These are strong D voters, or were in 2008.  I'm still calling it for Obama, but not by 5-6 points.  I'm also expecting momentum on the Romney side that will lower it further.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.

Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.  NV is on my "possible" list, but I credited it for Obama, because the polling tended to be off in 2008.  It is possible that Romney could take it. 

Registration in Nevada points to a larger victory than that.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.

Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.  NV is on my "possible" list, but I credited it for Obama, because the polling tended to be off in 2008.  It is possible that Romney could take it. 

Registration in Nevada points to a larger victory than that.

It was 44/35.7 D/R in 2008.  It is 41.9/34.7 now.  D -2.1


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Mister Twister on October 23, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%

We'd still need a comparison with 2008.  It is currently R +7.

D+2 for the entire EV period.

This extrapolates to about an expected tie in Colorado on election day. Obama won CO by 9 points overall.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%

We'd still need a comparison with 2008.  It is currently R +7.

D+2 for the entire EV period.

This extrapolates to about an expected tie in Colorado on election day. Obama won CO by 9 points overall.

Okay, we'll add seven points on to McCain's 44.7% and get Romney 51%.  It is not a good idea to extrapolate.  :)  Especially that way.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.

Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.  NV is on my "possible" list, but I credited it for Obama, because the polling tended to be off in 2008.  It is possible that Romney could take it. 

Registration in Nevada points to a larger victory than that.

It was 44/35.7 D/R in 2008.  It is 41.9/34.7 now.  D -2.1

So Obama wins by 10 points instead of 12. You can play this game as long as you want, but the fundamentals point to moderate Obama victory here. There's a reason people are moving it to lean Obama and the Obama campaign is not putting its new 1 minute closing ad there.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 07:57:06 PM
Today NBC moved NV to lean Obama from tossup. Chuck Todd and Jon Ralston talked about how the early vote, demographics and the Las Vegas area unions are taking NV out of play for Romney. But Romney is visiting Reno today I think, so they havent given up yet.

Romney can't be seen to be giving up. His strategy now is 100% confidence to generate momentum, because if the election were held today, he'd lose the EV even if he won the PV.

Both NV's polling and early voting is trending Romney.  NV is on my "possible" list, but I credited it for Obama, because the polling tended to be off in 2008.  It is possible that Romney could take it. 

Registration in Nevada points to a larger victory than that.

It was 44/35.7 D/R in 2008.  It is 41.9/34.7 now.  D -2.1

So Obama wins by 10 points instead of 12. You can play this game as long as you want, but the fundamentals point to moderate Obama victory here. There's a reason people are moving it to lean Obama and the Obama campaign is not putting its new 1 minute closing ad there.

That is just registration, that can show longer term formation of opinions.  Some of the numbers are currently running well ahead of registration. 

Note that I reported the numbers and didn't spin them.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 23, 2012, 08:21:56 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%

We'd still need a comparison with 2008.  It is currently R +7.

D+2 for the entire EV period.

This extrapolates to about an expected tie in Colorado on election day. Obama won CO by 9 points overall.

You have to factor in the fact that Republicans have more voters than Democrats in Colorado ready to vote on election day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 23, 2012, 10:01:59 PM
Adrian Gray: Virginia: Base precincts (60%+) for GOP turning at 124% of current 2008 levels. DEM precincts are at 98%. In other words, GOP doing well.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 10:03:32 PM
Democratic precincts at 98% of 2008 turnout is also pretty fantastic. Virginia will be close either way.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
Democratic precincts at 98% of 2008 turnout is also pretty fantastic. Virginia will be close either way.

If accurate, it is a R +26 point gap over 2008.  About the only places it wouldn't shift a state is HI, RI, and DC. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 10:18:22 PM
You should invest in a calculator bro. Your math stinks.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 10:27:54 PM
You should invest in a calculator bro. Your math stinks.

No, you apparently don't understand.

If nothing changes it would be R+0/D+0. 

If the D's drop by 2, the D's become D+2.  You see 0 - 2 = -2.  Since the R's are staying the same, it becomes R+2.

R's gain +24.  That is 0+ 24 = +24. 

In this case it is 24 + 2 = +26.

I'm happy to explain negative numbers to you.  You'll have a lot practice using them over the next two weeks. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
If Republican turnout is 124% of what it was in 2008, and Democratic turnout is 98% of what it was, Romney would win 74 million votes to Obama's 68 million votes. That's far from a nationwide landslide in which Obama would only win three states.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 10:50:34 PM
If Republican turnout is 124% of what it was in 2008, and Democratic turnout is 98% of what it was, Romney would win 74 million votes to Obama's 68 million votes. That's far from a nationwide landslide in which Obama would only win three states.

The three states were a joke, however, it wouldn't take into account people voting across party lines.  If this is accurate, and repeated across the country, Obama would basically lose every state that he didn't carry by 60%.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 11:05:02 PM
Iowa Friday:

R: 92072
D: 147234
I: 61833


R: 30.5%
D: 48.8%
I: 20.5%


IA is now:

Dem    47.3%
Rep    31.3%
None/Oth    21.4%
   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 23, 2012, 11:06:51 PM
How can that many people be voting none or other?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
How can that many people be voting none or other?

That is how they are registered. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 23, 2012, 11:38:52 PM
GOP charges out of the gate in Colorado.


http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/19/file_attachments/168826/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B19%2B2012.pdf



D: 8516
R: 10884
I: 5727


D: 33.6%
R: 42.9%
I: 23.6%
I see Obama is slightly ahead in Jefferson county.  How is Romney going to win CO without Jefferson? Everything else gives you a general idea how the state will turnout.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: ag on October 23, 2012, 11:47:34 PM


I'm happy to explain negative numbers to you.  You'll have a lot practice using them over the next two weeks. 

Have anybody bothered ever explaining, say, statistics to you? This entire discussion is rather frightening, on both sides. Would you, people, mind stopping making fools of yourselves?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 12:02:24 AM

I see Obama is slightly ahead in Jefferson county.  How is Romney going to win CO without Jefferson? Everything else gives you a general idea how the state will turnout.

You really have to do a comparison with 2008, which is lacking in the CO numbers.



I'm happy to explain negative numbers to you.  You'll have a lot practice using them over the next two weeks. 

Have anybody bothered ever explaining, say, statistics to you? This entire discussion is rather frightening, on both sides. Would you, people, mind stopping making fools of yourselves?

Yes, and some of that is why I'm saying you need to comparisons with 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 12:25:38 AM
Democrats netted another 5000 votes in Clark County today, bringing their lead in the county to 23,000. Nevada continues to slip away.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: SirMuxALot on October 24, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
Democratic precincts at 98% of 2008 turnout is also pretty fantastic. Virginia will be close either way.

Actually, it's arguably terrible.  Considering the last three elections in a row saw total turnout in the state increase each year by an average of 15.5%.

So if your party's turnout was 115.5% of 2008, you're probably merely keeping pace with population increase.  But if you're at 98% of 2008, well...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 24, 2012, 12:31:47 AM
TX early voting on the first day is already a lot higher than on the first day in 2008.

379.000 vs. 347.000

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/earlyvoting/2012/oct22.shtml


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 12:43:14 AM
Quote
@RalstonReports
I guess it would be rude to point out that on day GOP excitement should have been at zenith (Romney/Ryan in town) that they showed no surge?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 24, 2012, 02:21:51 AM
Fulton County, GA:

2008 Average Early Voters Per Day: 3,300
2012 Average Early Voters Per Day (10/13-10/22 @ 11:30 AM): 7,600

 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 12:36:07 PM
TX early voting on the first day is already a lot higher than on the first day in 2008.

379.000 vs. 347.000

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/earlyvoting/2012/oct22.shtml

Good luck identifying trends there other than that Republicans are voting strongly in absentee. Hidalgo County and El Paso County are at opposite ends of the spectrum.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 24, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
Here's an update for Colorado early voting...


D - 120965
R - 126539
I - 75030

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/24/file_attachments/169989/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B24%2B2012.pdf (http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/24/file_attachments/169989/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B24%2B2012.pdf)

So far the GOP is ahead in all swing counties.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 01:05:10 PM
Voter turnout for D/R almost exactly parallels their registration ratios. Unaffiliateds are voting much less, naturally.

Looking at the counties by population (half-assed way to do it, but whatever) but it sure looks like Republican areas are doing better than Dem areas. Depends on how well Obama does with the Indys or what happens between now and Election Day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
North Carolina:


D: 51.2%
R: 30.2%
I: 18.4%



2008:

D: 56.44%
R: 27.0%
I: 16.5%



Now we know why Obama is silently pulling out of North Carolina. He has collapsed among whites. Back then 27% of the votes were cast by white Democrats and that's down to 20%.





Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 01:49:55 PM
North Carolina:


D: 51.2%
R: 30.2%
I: 18.4%



2008:

D: 56.44%
R: 27.0%
I: 16.5%



Now we know why Obama is silently pulling out of North Carolina. He has collapsed among whites. Back then 27% of the votes were cast by white Democrats and that's down to 20%.





The overall white share of the electorate has dropped, and the share that is white D has dropped more because elderly Democrats are dying out and younger people are more likely to register Independent, including minorities. Plus the fact that Obama's not doing as well as 2008 and probably isn't winning NC. But you're taking that number out of context.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 01:54:58 PM
North Carolina:


D: 51.2%
R: 30.2%
I: 18.4%



2008:

D: 56.44%
R: 27.0%
I: 16.5%



Now we know why Obama is silently pulling out of North Carolina. He has collapsed among whites. Back then 27% of the votes were cast by white Democrats and that's down to 20%.





The overall white share of the electorate has dropped, and the share that is white D has dropped more because elderly Democrats are dying out and younger people are more likely to register Independent. Plus the fact that Obama's not doing as well as 2008 and probably isn't winning NC. But you're taking that number out of context.


Yes, North Carolina whites have lost some ground in terms of registration to blacks and some to the other minorities.

The problem for you is that those others are not voting, nor are the youngs. Median age of voter is higher in 2012 than 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 01:58:18 PM
The problem for you is that those others are not voting, nor are the youngs. Median age of voter is higher in 2012 than 2008.

Well, I won't argue 2012 is going to be 2008. The question is whether things have swung far enough for Romney to match Reagan '84 levels among white voters, which is what he needs to simply break even in a more diverse country. The signs are that it's not happening outside of the south. Obama will likely lose NC (but put up a good fight) and I wouldn't bet on either FL or VA unless his ground game is as good as they say, but he's still favored to win reelection right now, and NV looks to be solidifying behind him.  

Similarly, I'm not counting on Colorado as part of Obama's coalition unless he's having a good night.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
Here's an update for Colorado early voting...


D - 120965
R - 126539
I - 75030

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/24/file_attachments/169989/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B24%2B2012.pdf (http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/24/file_attachments/169989/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B24%2B2012.pdf)

So far the GOP is ahead in all swing counties.


Not too shabby. In 2008 the Democrats were able to get a 2 point lead in CO early voting due to lack of GOP enthusiasm, despite a sliver of a GOP lead in voter registration at the time.


Among the swing counties the Democrats have slightly more voters in Arapahoe County while the GOP has more voters in the other 2 counties.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
The problem for you is that those others are not voting, nor are the youngs. Median age of voter is higher in 2012 than 2008.

Well, I won't argue 2012 is going to be 2008. The question is whether things have swung far enough for Romney to match Reagan '84 levels among white voters, which is what he needs to simply break even in a more diverse country. The signs are that it's not happening outside of the south. Obama will likely lose NC (but put up a good fight) and I wouldn't bet on either FL or VA unless his ground game is as good as they say, but he's still favored to win reelection right now, and NV looks to be solidifying behind him.  

Similarly, I'm not counting on Colorado as part of Obama's coalition unless he's having a good night.

In North Carolina others have gone from 218k voters (3.4% of total registration) to 523k voters (7.9% of total registration), among the largest proportional increases in the nation over the last 4 years. Yet they are still at 1% of the vote, same as 2008.

Discern from that what you will.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 02:14:26 PM
In North Carolina others have gone from 218k voters (3.4% of total registration) to 523k voters (7.9% of total registration), among the largest proportional increases in the nation over the last 4 years. Yet they are still at 1% of the vote, same as 2008.

Discern from that what you will.


Not sure what you mean. 4.5% of early voters are listed outside of white and African-American categories in NC. And presumably some Hispanic voters are identifying with those categories.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: ag on October 24, 2012, 02:20:01 PM

Sorry to say: it is entirely not obvious from the level of this discussion.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
In North Carolina others have gone from 218k voters (3.4% of total registration) to 523k voters (7.9% of total registration), among the largest proportional increases in the nation over the last 4 years. Yet they are still at 1% of the vote, same as 2008.

Discern from that what you will.


Not sure what you mean. 4.5% of early voters are listed outside of white and African-American categories in NC. And presumably some Hispanic voters are identifying with those categories.

I am using these links right here.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/
http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/custom/3016263258/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
In North Carolina others have gone from 218k voters (3.4% of total registration) to 523k voters (7.9% of total registration), among the largest proportional increases in the nation over the last 4 years. Yet they are still at 1% of the vote, same as 2008.

Discern from that what you will.


Not sure what you mean. 4.5% of early voters are listed outside of white and African-American categories in NC. And presumably some Hispanic voters are identifying with those categories.

I am using these links right here.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/
http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/custom/3016263258/

I'm using this one:

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Your data source is missing something. It shows literally 1 "other" voter in Mecklenburg County.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 02:37:04 PM
In North Carolina others have gone from 218k voters (3.4% of total registration) to 523k voters (7.9% of total registration), among the largest proportional increases in the nation over the last 4 years. Yet they are still at 1% of the vote, same as 2008.

Discern from that what you will.


Not sure what you mean. 4.5% of early voters are listed outside of white and African-American categories in NC. And presumably some Hispanic voters are identifying with those categories.

I am using these links right here.

http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2012/
http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/custom/3016263258/

I'm using this one:

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

Your data source is missing something. It shows literally 1 "other" voter in Mecklenburg County.


Ah, yes, thank you. Something appears to be missing.

It does look like others voted 4.3% of total absentees in the 2008 election and are 4.5% of total absentees thus far in this election based on the links you have.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 02:48:17 PM
Adrian Gray: Virginia: Base precincts (60%+) for GOP turning at 124% of current 2008 levels. DEM precincts are at 98%. In other words, GOP doing well.



VIRGINIA EARLY VOTE: Up 18.8% in the 86 localities McCain won in '08, but up ONLY 4.4% in the 48 Obama won

3 of 4 top DECREASES in VA early voting vs '08: 1) Richmond City (-16.8%) 3) Arlington County (-14.0%) 4) Charlottesville City (-10.5%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 24, 2012, 03:13:26 PM
This is overall encouraging for the GOP.  We have to remember, though, that McCain didn't really play the early voting game at all in most states while Romney is trying significantly harder on that front.  The degree to which either party is merely cannibalizing election day turnout will be very important here.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
Democrats netted another 5000 votes in Clark County today, bringing their lead in the county to 23,000. Nevada continues to slip away.

Clark Co. shows a closing of 2.1 points from 2008 total, so far.  Obama will win early voting across the US, but by greatly reduced numbers.




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 24, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Adrian Gray: Virginia: Base precincts (60%+) for GOP turning at 124% of current 2008 levels. DEM precincts are at 98%. In other words, GOP doing well.



VIRGINIA EARLY VOTE: Up 18.8% in the 86 localities McCain won in '08, but up ONLY 4.4% in the 48 Obama won

If this increase carries over to final vote totals (which you can't do, but whatever) Romney edges Obama by 4,000 votes in Virginia. Which is better than losing, but shows what a hole he's digging out of.  


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 03:40:06 PM
Adrian Gray: Virginia: Base precincts (60%+) for GOP turning at 124% of current 2008 levels. DEM precincts are at 98%. In other words, GOP doing well.



VIRGINIA EARLY VOTE: Up 18.8% in the 86 localities McCain won in '08, but up ONLY 4.4% in the 48 Obama won

If this increase carries over to final vote totals (which you can't do, but whatever) Romney edges Obama by 4,000 votes in Virginia. Which is better than losing, but shows what a hole he's digging out of. 

D's were more likely to vote early in 2008, so this might have been what Obama won by in a few states. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
Democrats netted another 5000 votes in Clark County today, bringing their lead in the county to 23,000. Nevada continues to slip away.

Clark Co. shows a closing of 2.1 points from 2008 total, so far.  Obama will win early voting across the US, but by greatly reduced numbers.




You keep repeating that like it's significant. It's not. Romney needs to close by three or four times that to even have a chance. He's only going to get about a 30,000 vote margin in rural Nevada to offset Obama's margin in Clark County (Washoe is likely to be a wash). Obama's already at a 25,000 margin in Clark after just four days.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 24, 2012, 03:53:22 PM
Democrats netted another 5000 votes in Clark County today, bringing their lead in the county to 23,000. Nevada continues to slip away.

Clark Co. shows a closing of 2.1 points from 2008 total, so far.  Obama will win early voting across the US, but by greatly reduced numbers.




But it's not true that better than 2008 = Romney wins that state.  Unless we are talking about NC or IN, Romney needs to do dramatically better than 2008 to flip states.  2004 is a good standard of comparison where available.  How did 2004 early voting look in NV, VA, etc?  I know we have that data for IA and it looks reasonably good for Romney, but what about the other states?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
Democrats netted another 5000 votes in Clark County today, bringing their lead in the county to 23,000. Nevada continues to slip away.

Clark Co. shows a closing of 2.1 points from 2008 total, so far.  Obama will win early voting across the US, but by greatly reduced numbers.




You keep repeating that like it's significant. It's not. Romney needs to close by three or four times that to even have a chance. He's only going to get about a 30,000 vote margin in rural Nevada to offset Obama's margin in Clark County (Washoe is likely to be a wash). Obama's already at a 25,000 margin in Clark after just four days.

What isn't significant is the raw vote numbers.  If Obama got 5,000 this cycle and 10,000 votes last cycle, that very poor performance, and it ma effect the result.  This happens to have been the area where Obama was the strongest in 2008.  If he weakens in his strongest segment of the vote, then he becomes weaker overall. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 04:11:59 PM
I have no idea what you're trying to say.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 04:35:09 PM

But it's not true that better than 2008 = Romney wins that state.  Unless we are talking about NC or IN, Romney needs to do dramatically better than 2008 to flip states.  2004 is a good standard of comparison where available.  How did 2004 early voting look in NV, VA, etc?  I know we have that data for IA and it looks reasonably good for Romney, but what about the other states?

We don't know what the rest of his numbers will look like, or even the state final early voting party split.

The state where we have the best data, and can do same point in time comparisons, is NC.  Comparing how Obama is doing now, compared to his end point numbers, indicates that his support has slumped slightly.  Comparing it to the same point in time indicates Obama is getting creamed. 

Perhaps, at this point in time in 2008, Obama was was up 70/30 in NV.  Perhaps he was down 40/60.  We don't have the data to show which.  The only thing that we can say is, in a few counties, Obama is not running as well as he ended up in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 24, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
https://twitter.com/guypbenson

Source on the ground in Wisconsin tells me a county clerk in a populous area says she's seen a major increase in GOP early voting.

more early votes from Waukesha County (suburban Milwaukee, pop 390k) than Dane County (Madison, pop 495k)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 05:40:49 PM
Washoe County, NV: 

Dem    44.2%
Rep    40.2%
None/Oth    15.6%

R's again outpolled D's for the day, by a slightly higher margin. 

Total = 9,255
Dems =  3,782 
Reps =  3,954

I would not necessarily call it a trend.  D's might come out on the weekends.  It might have been front loaded for the Democrats just as well. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 24, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
anyone have the Ohio link or numbers?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Then perhaps you should be panicking. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 08:22:24 PM
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Then perhaps you should be panicking. 

If I started panicking every time I had no idea what you were trying to say, I'd be dead.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
anyone have the Ohio link or numbers?

There was one, but I don't know if it is still up and I can't find it.

This article, from 5 days ago, indicates that it is running better in OH:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/republicans-point-to-early-vote-gains-in-ohio/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 24, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
anyone have the Ohio link or numbers?

There was one, but I don't know if it is still up and I can't find it.

This article, from 5 days ago, indicates that it is running better in OH:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/republicans-point-to-early-vote-gains-in-ohio/

Thanks.

36 D, 29 R  through last  Wednesday!!??

How are these polls getting a 30 point Dem margin on early voting?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
anyone have the Ohio link or numbers?

There was one, but I don't know if it is still up and I can't find it.

This article, from 5 days ago, indicates that it is running better in OH:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/republicans-point-to-early-vote-gains-in-ohio/

Thanks.

36 D, 29 R  through last  Wednesday!!??

How are these polls getting a 30 point Dem margin on early voting?

The good ones are not.  :)  Registration is not "firm" in OH, so the statistics are not as firm as the should be. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 24, 2012, 09:33:42 PM
anyone have the Ohio link or numbers?

There was one, but I don't know if it is still up and I can't find it.

This article, from 5 days ago, indicates that it is running better in OH:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/18/republicans-point-to-early-vote-gains-in-ohio/

Thanks.

36 D, 29 R  through last  Wednesday!!??

How are these polls getting a 30 point Dem margin on early voting?

The good ones are not.  :)  Registration is not "firm" in OH, so the statistics are not as firm as the should be. 


Somethings gotta give. Secretary of state says its a 7 point margin, the polls say its a 30 point margin.

PPP:

Obama does have one big advantage in Ohio though- he's already winning the election there. 21% of voters in the state say they've already voted, and they report having supported Obama 66/34

Marist:

Among voters who indicate they have already cast their ballot, Obama leads Romney, 63% to 37%

Time:

Among respondents who say they have already voted, Obama holds a two-to-one lead over Romney, 60% to 30%.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 10:07:19 PM
Once again, for the seventeenth time, Ohio does not have party registration, those party figures are meaningless, anyone who is treating them seriously (including that CNN reporter) is laughably uninformed about this sort of stuff.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 10:38:10 PM
Once again, for the seventeenth time, Ohio does not have party registration, those party figures are meaningless, anyone who is treating them seriously (including that CNN reporter) is laughably uninformed about this sort of stuff.

In all fairness, Marist was well off in its numbers on this in IA. 

OH is probably closer than 2008, but I wouldn't guess how much. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 24, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
Once again, for the seventeenth time, Ohio does not have party registration, those party figures are meaningless, anyone who is treating them seriously (including that CNN reporter) is laughably uninformed about this sort of stuff.

The RNC sent out this memo.

Republicans are outperforming our share of voter registration in absentee requests and early votes by 8.73 points. Democrats are underperforming their share of 2008 AB/EV votes cast by 7.60 percentage points, while the GOP is over-performing their share by 5.94 points. The result is a net swing of +13.54 percentage points for Republicans.


Obviously a bias source. But I doubt they are simply making numbers up. How are they able to compare if there is no party registration?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 10:55:36 PM
Your "party" in Ohio is just a record of the last primary election you voted in. In 2008, 2.4 million Ohioans voted in the Dem primary, 0.5 million in the GOP primary. This year, it was 1.1 million in the Dem primary and 1.2 million in the GOP primary. So you can't really draw any concrete conclusions through a comparison of 2012 and 2008, at least by looking at the party "registration" of the voters. Michael McDonald, a (as far as I know) non-partisan George Mason professor who's sort of an expert on early voting, wrote the following about the state last Friday:

Quote
Ohio is where Republicans are spinning the most, and unfortunately some reporters are buying it. Take CNN, which headlines "Republicans point to early vote gains in Ohio."

The primary source for this story is the Romney campaign, which is promoting party registration statistics to back up their claims. Only at the bottom of the story, does CNN's Peter Hamby write that Ohio does not have party registration. "Party" in Ohio is a record of the last party primary an individual voted in. Worse, Peter Hamby reports this as a he-said-she-said story, noting that it is the Obama campaign who points out Ohio does not have party registration, something he could have easily discovered on his own.

Let's deconstruct another easily verifiable claim in this CNN report.

Quote
In Cuyahoga, Republicans only make up about 12 percent of registered voters. Ballot numbers through Tuesday of this week, however, signal that almost 22 percent of early voters in Cuyahoga are Republican.

Advantage Romney!

But not so fast, let's look a the actual numbers that Cuyahoga so helpfully posts online.

As of Thursday's report, there are 124,967 Cuyahoga registered voters who most recently participated in a Republican primary, or 13 percent of all registered voters. There are 17,133 such persons who have voted, or 21 percent of all voters. So far the story is mostly true; perhaps it is based on an earlier Cuyahoga report.

But what about the voters who last participated in a Democratic primary? They are 343,392 of all registered voters, or 37 percent. 49,720 of these folks have voted, or 60 percent. Comparably, a larger percentage of "Democrats" have voted early in Cuyahoga than Republicans, compared to their base registration statistics.

Advantage Obama!

Before we draw that conclusion, let's understand what is really going on here. 2.4 million Ohioans voted in the 2008 Democratic primary, compared to 0.5 million in the Republican primary. Over the course of four years, some of these people were purged from the voter rolls. In 2012, 1.1 million Ohioans voted in the Democratic primary, and 1.2 million voted in the Republican primary. I suspect that there were a good number of Democrats who crossed over and voted in the Republican primary just because it was the more interesting race from the presidential perspective. In Ohio, all of these folks are now labeled Republicans. "Party" is so hopelessly confounded in Ohio that it is next to meaningless to divine who is ahead.

The Cuyahoga numbers do reveal something about early voters. They are highly participatory people who tend to vote in primaries. There are 458,193, or 49 percent, Cuyahoga registered voters who have no record of voting in any primary. Only 15,835 have voted so far, or 19 percent. Let me put this another way, people who vote the earliest are people who just generally vote.

I thus take the same conclusion from the CNN story:

Quote
Few in either party question the Obama campaign's sophisticated ground game and most expect Democrats to bank more votes before Election Day. But Republicans have vastly improved their turnout effort in Ohio from the dog days of October 2008.

Just because Romney has a better ground game than McCain, that does not mean that Obama has not stepped up efforts, too. The Cuyahoga numbers show evidence that Obama's campaign is at least keeping pace with Republicans, if not outpacing them.

Looking across the Ohio counties, it appears that early voting is up everywhere across the state. Both campaigns are hard at work through the extended early voting period. Ohio is ground zero for this election, but we already knew that.

link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 24, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
Good info. Thank you.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 24, 2012, 11:05:39 PM
No problem. I understand parties, whether the Democrats or the Republicans, twisting the information like this, but the fact that CNN needs to be fact-checked on such a basic fact about early voting in Ohio is really appalling to me.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2012, 11:59:49 PM
Washoe, NV, daily raw :

Total = 8,331
Dems =  3,310 
Reps = 3,541

The R's are creeping up, but as noted, it might be that the D's vote more heavily on weekends.

http://www.co.washoe.nv.us/voters/11SPECEVTO.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 12:49:11 AM
Dems added another 6000 votes to their Clark County margin today. Dominating.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 07:23:34 AM
It looks the R's got well beyond the D's in Clark yesterday.  D% dropped 0.4 points.  8,000 vote gain for R's?

It still could be the weekday voting thing.  If not the D's are in danger of getting less than half the vote in Clark County, NV.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 07:42:00 AM
ME is bucking the trend:


ME:
2008
Dem
   41.1%
Rep
   27.7%
No/Oth
   31.2%

10/22/12:
Dem    44.3%
Rep    28.1%
Green    2.4%
None    25.3%

Looking at the absentee applications, D's are going to be increasing that lead. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
NC:

Dem    50.7%
Rep    30.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

Gap is down 0.7 points from yesterday, which should be disturbing because this should be the D's top week. 

From the same day comparison, D's are running 8.3 points behind where they were in 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 25, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
Your "party" in Ohio is just a record of the last primary election you voted in. In 2008, 2.4 million Ohioans voted in the Dem primary, 0.5 million in the GOP primary. This year, it was 1.1 million in the Dem primary and 1.2 million in the GOP primary. So you can't really draw any concrete conclusions through a comparison of 2012 and 2008, at least by looking at the party "registration" of the voters. Michael McDonald, a (as far as I know) non-partisan George Mason professor who's sort of an expert on early voting, wrote the following about the state last Friday:

Quote
Ohio is where Republicans are spinning the most, and unfortunately some reporters are buying it. Take CNN, which headlines "Republicans point to early vote gains in Ohio."

The primary source for this story is the Romney campaign, which is promoting party registration statistics to back up their claims. Only at the bottom of the story, does CNN's Peter Hamby write that Ohio does not have party registration. "Party" in Ohio is a record of the last party primary an individual voted in. Worse, Peter Hamby reports this as a he-said-she-said story, noting that it is the Obama campaign who points out Ohio does not have party registration, something he could have easily discovered on his own.

Let's deconstruct another easily verifiable claim in this CNN report.

Quote
In Cuyahoga, Republicans only make up about 12 percent of registered voters. Ballot numbers through Tuesday of this week, however, signal that almost 22 percent of early voters in Cuyahoga are Republican.

Advantage Romney!

But not so fast, let's look a the actual numbers that Cuyahoga so helpfully posts online.

As of Thursday's report, there are 124,967 Cuyahoga registered voters who most recently participated in a Republican primary, or 13 percent of all registered voters. There are 17,133 such persons who have voted, or 21 percent of all voters. So far the story is mostly true; perhaps it is based on an earlier Cuyahoga report.

But what about the voters who last participated in a Democratic primary? They are 343,392 of all registered voters, or 37 percent. 49,720 of these folks have voted, or 60 percent. Comparably, a larger percentage of "Democrats" have voted early in Cuyahoga than Republicans, compared to their base registration statistics.

Advantage Obama!

Before we draw that conclusion, let's understand what is really going on here. 2.4 million Ohioans voted in the 2008 Democratic primary, compared to 0.5 million in the Republican primary. Over the course of four years, some of these people were purged from the voter rolls. In 2012, 1.1 million Ohioans voted in the Democratic primary, and 1.2 million voted in the Republican primary. I suspect that there were a good number of Democrats who crossed over and voted in the Republican primary just because it was the more interesting race from the presidential perspective. In Ohio, all of these folks are now labeled Republicans. "Party" is so hopelessly confounded in Ohio that it is next to meaningless to divine who is ahead.

The Cuyahoga numbers do reveal something about early voters. They are highly participatory people who tend to vote in primaries. There are 458,193, or 49 percent, Cuyahoga registered voters who have no record of voting in any primary. Only 15,835 have voted so far, or 19 percent. Let me put this another way, people who vote the earliest are people who just generally vote.

I thus take the same conclusion from the CNN story:

Quote
Few in either party question the Obama campaign's sophisticated ground game and most expect Democrats to bank more votes before Election Day. But Republicans have vastly improved their turnout effort in Ohio from the dog days of October 2008.

Just because Romney has a better ground game than McCain, that does not mean that Obama has not stepped up efforts, too. The Cuyahoga numbers show evidence that Obama's campaign is at least keeping pace with Republicans, if not outpacing them.

Looking across the Ohio counties, it appears that early voting is up everywhere across the state. Both campaigns are hard at work through the extended early voting period. Ohio is ground zero for this election, but we already knew that.

link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)

Makes you wonder why Kasich and Husted and the boys didn't switch over to a traditional registration system. Since they are willing to do such other activities to help their guy win.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 25, 2012, 09:16:40 AM
NC:

Dem    50.7%
Rep    30.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

Gap is down 0.7 points from yesterday, which should be disturbing because this should be the D's top week. 

From the same day comparison, D's are running 8.3 points behind where they were in 2008. 

And it went more old and more white. too.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 25, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
NC:

Dem    50.7%
Rep    30.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

Gap is down 0.7 points from yesterday, which should be disturbing because this should be the D's top week. 

From the same day comparison, D's are running 8.3 points behind where they were in 2008. 

Actual Changes

Democrats +54K
Republicans +58K
Indies +53K

So its only a net shift 4,000 votes Republican in a turnout of one million.

Whites +114K
Blacks +69K


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 25, 2012, 09:25:57 AM
About 1/3 of the 2008 early vote is already in in NC and the Democrats hold a 51-31 advantage right now, compared to a 51-30 advantage in 2008. Not bad.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 25, 2012, 09:55:49 AM

Iowa today:

R: 99680
D: 155089
I: 67553

R: 30.9%
D: 48.1%
I: 20.9%



Iowa today:

R: 118716
D: 175019
I: 81927

R: 31.6%
D: 46.7%
I: 21.8%


Compared to 2004, both D and R are roughly 20k below total absentee counts. I's are 40k below. That is very nice as these are liberal leaning I's.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 10:01:48 AM
About 1/3 of the 2008 early vote is already in in NC and the Democrats hold a 51-31 advantage right now, compared to a 51-30 advantage in 2008. Not bad.

Terrible, actually.  At this point in time, it was something like R 27 D 56.3. 

Black voters were at this point 29.3% of the electorate. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 10:35:54 AM
NC:

Dem    50.7%
Rep    30.5%
None/Oth    18.8%

Gap is down 0.7 points from yesterday, which should be disturbing because this should be the D's top week. 

From the same day comparison, D's are running 8.3 points behind where they were in 2008. 

And it went more old and more white. too.

It's running, at the same point in time about 1.1 point more black.  Turnout has not declined among black people. 

It is running older, substantially.  18-44 is running about 12 points lower, currently


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
Including absentees, Democrats now have a 30,500 raw vote margin in Clark County. Republicans are coming nowhere close to closing the gap.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
Including absentees, Democrats now have a 30,500 raw vote margin in Clark County. Republicans are coming nowhere close to closing the gap.

The D's had an 83,800 vote gap the last time, at the end.  I have no question that Obama will carry Clark Co., but it might be a greatly reduced rate. 

I'd really be waiting until the weekend for solid trends.

And, the gap has been decreasing slightly. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 11:48:27 AM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on October 25, 2012, 11:55:36 AM
Including absentees, Democrats now have a 30,500 raw vote margin in Clark County. Republicans are coming nowhere close to closing the gap.

The D's had an 83,800 vote gap the last time, at the end.  I have no question that Obama will carry Clark Co., but it might be a greatly reduced rate. 

I'd really be waiting until the weekend for solid trends.

And, the gap has been decreasing slightly. 

McCain didn't push early voting they way Romney has.  More Republicans are voting before election day.  That doesn't necessarily mean more Republicans voting overall.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 25, 2012, 01:02:15 PM
As of today in Colorado

Total:
 
R: 187,824 (39.7%)
D: 171,971 (36.3%)
U: 108,421 (22.9%)
 
Mail-In/Absentee Ballots
 
R: 172,461
D: 158,139
U: 98,532
 
Early Voting
 
R: 15,363
D: 13,832
U: 9,889

Colorado has Romney winning Unaffiliateds 43/39


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 25, 2012, 01:08:03 PM
Colorado has Romney winning Unaffiliateds 43/39

Where?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 25, 2012, 01:10:42 PM

In 5280's dreams.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 25, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/ (http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 25, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
As of today in Colorado

Total:
 
R: 187,824 (39.7%)
D: 171,971 (36.3%)
U: 108,421 (22.9%)
 
Mail-In/Absentee Ballots
 
R: 172,461
D: 158,139
U: 98,532
 
Early Voting
 
R: 15,363
D: 13,832
U: 9,889

Colorado has Romney winning Unaffiliateds 43/39

According to this narrative, Ken Buck would have won in 2010:

Quote
GOP hopes trend in early voting in Colorado carries over on Election Day

Republicans will head into Election Day tomorrow with a significant advantage over Democrats in terms of ballots cast, according to figures released Monday by the Colorado secretary of state's office.

Whether that spells success come Election Night, though, is an open question.

In numbers up to date through the weekend, Republicans had about a 61,500-ballot advantage over Democrats. Republican voters also had voted at a higher rate — about 5.5 percentage points higher — than Democrats. Unaffiliated voters, who make up the state's largest voting bloc, lagged behind the two major parties but still accounted for about a quarter of the ballots cast early statewide.

"It's indicative of what you're seeing around the country and what the polls have shown for months now in terms of Republican motivation," said Eric Sondermann, a Denver political consultant.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16495705

He did not.

Besides, the SUSA poll for CO Indies you are quoting was conducted just after the 1st debate, so things might have changed in favor of Obama again. Especially CO Indies, which are a Obama-leaning folk. If Romney led by just 4 after the 1st debate, there's a good chance Obama is leading again by big margins with them.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 25, 2012, 01:23:45 PM
As of today in Colorado

Total:
 
R: 187,824 (39.7%)
D: 171,971 (36.3%)
U: 108,421 (22.9%)
 
Mail-In/Absentee Ballots
 
R: 172,461
D: 158,139
U: 98,532
 
Early Voting
 
R: 15,363
D: 13,832
U: 9,889

Colorado has Romney winning Unaffiliateds 43/39

According to this narrative, Ken Buck would have won in 2010:

Quote
GOP hopes trend in early voting in Colorado carries over on Election Day

Republicans will head into Election Day tomorrow with a significant advantage over Democrats in terms of ballots cast, according to figures released Monday by the Colorado secretary of state's office.

Whether that spells success come Election Night, though, is an open question.

In numbers up to date through the weekend, Republicans had about a 61,500-ballot advantage over Democrats. Republican voters also had voted at a higher rate — about 5.5 percentage points higher — than Democrats. Unaffiliated voters, who make up the state's largest voting bloc, lagged behind the two major parties but still accounted for about a quarter of the ballots cast early statewide.

"It's indicative of what you're seeing around the country and what the polls have shown for months now in terms of Republican motivation," said Eric Sondermann, a Denver political consultant.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_16495705

He did not.

Besides, the SUSA poll for CO Indies you are quoting was conducted just after the 1st debate, so things might have changed in favor of Obama again. Especially CO Indies, which are a Obama-leaning folk. If Romney led by just 4 after the 1st debate, there's a good chance Obama is leading again by big margins with them.
CO Indies are not Obama leaning folks, that's a false hope which isn't true. Secondly, Romney isn't a Ken Buck so stop bringing that up, it's tiring and an old comparison. Ken Buck lost because he was a far right social con.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 03:26:52 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...

Lief, you can have 5000 D's show up and 8000 R's show up.  The percentage of R's increased. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...

Lief, you can have 5000 D's show up and 8000 R's show up.  The percentage of R's increased. 

You can't have 5000 Ds show up and 8000 Rs show up and have the Democratic margin increase though. It's simple math.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...

Lief, you can have 5000 D's show up and 8000 R's show up.  The percentage of R's increased. 

You can't have 5000 Ds show up and 8000 Rs show up and have the Democratic margin increase though. It's simple math.

We didn't have that.  The percentage of D voters decreased in Clark. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 04:44:11 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...

Lief, you can have 5000 D's show up and 8000 R's show up.  The percentage of R's increased. 

You can't have 5000 Ds show up and 8000 Rs show up and have the Democratic margin increase though. It's simple math.

We didn't have that.  The percentage of D voters decreased in Clark. 

We did have that. There were 25,000 more Democratic ballots than Republican ballots at the end of Tuesday. Then there was a total of 30,500 more Democratic ballots than Republican ballots at the end of Wednesday. The Democratic margin therefore increased by 5,500 votes. How is this so difficult to understand??!??!?!?!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
No it hasn't? It was 25,000 end of the day Tuesday, and 30,500 end of the day Wednesday. How is that a decreasing gap?

The R's had more voters out than the D's on that day. 

No... or else the Democratic lead wouldn't have increased by 5,000...

Lief, you can have 5000 D's show up and 8000 R's show up.  The percentage of R's increased. 

You can't have 5000 Ds show up and 8000 Rs show up and have the Democratic margin increase though. It's simple math.

We didn't have that.  The percentage of D voters decreased in Clark. 

We did have that. There were 25,000 more Democratic ballots than Republican ballots at the end of Tuesday. Then there was a total of 30,500 more Democratic ballots than Republican ballots at the end of Wednesday. The Democratic margin therefore increased by 5,500 votes. How is this so difficult to understand??!??!?!?!

Where do you get these figures? 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 04:58:20 PM
Jon Ralston's twitter account (link (https://twitter.com/RalstonReports)):

Quote
Democrats added about 6,000 votes to their lead in today's Clark County early voting. Now at 29K w/o mail counted. Probably 30K-plus w/them.

And then eight hours later:

Quote
Clark County, updated w/mail ballots: Democrats have 50-33 lead, 30,500 in raw votes. Actual registration is 46-31, Dem.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Jon Ralston's twitter account (link (https://twitter.com/RalstonReports)):

Quote
Democrats added about 6,000 votes to their lead in today's Clark County early voting. Now at 29K w/o mail counted. Probably 30K-plus w/them.

And then eight hours later:

Quote
Clark County, updated w/mail ballots: Democrats have 50-33 lead, 30,500 in raw votes. Actual registration is 46-31, Dem.

The D's had the lead and added 6000.  That doesn't tell us anything about how many votes the R's got that day.  I've been looking at the percentages and the share of D votes, the percentage the had, dropped slightly. 

Here are numbers reported today:

D 76,665
R 47,958
NP  26669

http://nvsos.gov/index.aspx?page=1195

You can check back later.  :))



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 05:15:57 PM
It tells us that Rs got 6000 votes fewer than the Ds did that day. Which is more important than the assertion that they lost by slightly less than they did before.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
It tells us that Rs got 6000 votes fewer than the Ds did that day. Which is more important than the assertion that they lost by slightly less than they did before.

No it doesn't.  It is entirely possible for the D's to have gotten 6,000 votes in Clark Co. yesterday and still.  The R's got about 8,000 votes.

I worked out the percentage, and the percentage of D votes dropped. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 05:40:30 PM
()

NO IT'S NOT

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE TOTAL DEMOCRATIC MARGIN TO HAVE GONE UP YESTERDAY IF MORE REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS VOTED YESTERDAY

THAT IS NOT HOW MATH WORKS


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: RI on October 25, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
()

NO IT'S NOT

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE TOTAL DEMOCRATIC MARGIN TO HAVE GONE UP YESTERDAY IF MORE REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS VOTED YESTERDAY

THAT IS NOT HOW MATH WORKS

Lief, I'm pretty sure J.J. understands math. He's in Mensa.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 06:01:11 PM
Okay, I think I found results for yesterday for Clark County. (The data from the Clark County government site is in .exe format which I can't open on my Mac, so I had to hunt around the internet and finally found a right-wing blog that looked semi-legit.)

Democrats: 14,934
Republicans: 9,725
Other: 5,900

So, as should be obvious, more Democrats than Republicans voted in Clark County yesterday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 25, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
Wow. J.J. must be just messing with us because nobody can be that dense.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 06:05:55 PM
Okay, I think I found results for yesterday for Clark County. (The data from the Clark County government site is in .exe format which I can't open on my Mac, so I had to hunt around the internet and finally found a right-wing blog that looked semi-legit.)

Democrats: 14,934
Republicans: 9,725
Other: 5,900

So, as should be obvious, more Democrats than Republicans voted in Clark County yesterday.

It wasn't matching the percentages I had yesterday at all.  It showed a slight increase in the R numbers. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 25, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
Okay, I think I found results for yesterday for Clark County. (The data from the Clark County government site is in .exe format which I can't open on my Mac, so I had to hunt around the internet and finally found a right-wing blog that looked semi-legit.)

Democrats: 14,934
Republicans: 9,725
Other: 5,900

So, as should be obvious, more Democrats than Republicans voted in Clark County yesterday.

I have been saving the daily results and those are the numbers I have. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 25, 2012, 06:09:43 PM
Okay, I think I found results for yesterday for Clark County. (The data from the Clark County government site is in .exe format which I can't open on my Mac, so I had to hunt around the internet and finally found a right-wing blog that looked semi-legit.)

Democrats: 14,934
Republicans: 9,725
Other: 5,900

So, as should be obvious, more Democrats than Republicans voted in Clark County yesterday.


That's expected. But more important than that is the final Democratic advantage. What's the threshold between a Democratic win and a Republican win? Is it 60000?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 06:11:11 PM
()

NO IT'S NOT

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE TOTAL DEMOCRATIC MARGIN TO HAVE GONE UP YESTERDAY IF MORE REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS VOTED YESTERDAY

THAT IS NOT HOW MATH WORKS

The total margin went down, from what I remember.  There were more R's voting than D's.  Look, we can check the numbers tomorrow, because I actually posted them.  


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 25, 2012, 06:26:24 PM
Daily margin in Clark County

Oct 20- D+8,800
Oct 21- D+4,495
Oct 22- D+4,796
Oct 23- D+5,399
Oct 24- D+5,209


Total- D+28,699

(does not include absentees)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 25, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
Thank you!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 25, 2012, 06:29:02 PM
Okay, I think I found results for yesterday for Clark County. (The data from the Clark County government site is in .exe format which I can't open on my Mac, so I had to hunt around the internet and finally found a right-wing blog that looked semi-legit.)

Democrats: 14,934
Republicans: 9,725
Other: 5,900

So, as should be obvious, more Democrats than Republicans voted in Clark County yesterday.


That's expected. But more important than that is the final Democratic advantage. What's the threshold between a Democratic win and a Republican win? Is it 60000?



Probably closer to 45-50,000 IMO.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: dspNY on October 25, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
When Bush beat Kerry by about 3 points in Nevada, Kerry's margin in Clark was 26,430

I'd guess Romney has to hold his margin of defeat down to about 40K to have a shot


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
Daily margin in Clark County

Oct 20- D+8,800
Oct 21- D+4,495
Oct 22- D+4,796
Oct 23- D+5,399
Oct 24- D+5,209


Total- D+28,699

(does not include absentees)


Thank you.  I had an increase. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on October 25, 2012, 08:27:29 PM
Your "party" in Ohio is just a record of the last primary election you voted in. In 2008, 2.4 million Ohioans voted in the Dem primary, 0.5 million in the GOP primary. This year, it was 1.1 million in the Dem primary and 1.2 million in the GOP primary. So you can't really draw any concrete conclusions through a comparison of 2012 and 2008, at least by looking at the party "registration" of the voters. Michael McDonald, a (as far as I know) non-partisan George Mason professor who's sort of an expert on early voting, wrote the following about the state last Friday:

Quote
2.4 million Ohioans voted in the 2008 Democratic primary, compared to 0.5 million in the Republican primary. Over the course of four years, some of these people were purged from the voter rolls. In 2012, 1.1 million Ohioans voted in the Democratic primary, and 1.2 million voted in the Republican primary. I suspect that there were a good number of Democrats who crossed over and voted in the Republican primary just because it was the more interesting race from the presidential perspective. In Ohio, all of these folks are now labeled Republicans. "Party" is so hopelessly confounded in Ohio that it is next to meaningless to divine who is ahead.
link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/early-voting-spinning_b_1989094.html)

The professor makes good points, but the crux of his theory is bolded above, and  perhaps a little overstated. Republicans can rightly claim individuals who voted in the Republican primary are overwhelmingly likely to vote Republican in November.

There are certainly exceptions which fit McDonald's analysis. Anecdoteally I've heard of a number of Democrats who voted in the GOP primary around here, not because they cared much for the race between Romney and Santorum, but rather some hotly contested local races being decided in the GOP primary, and not a contested Dem. primary race anywhere on the ballot.. Few of them will pull the lever for Romney, but those are very much the exception rather than the rule. There may be a number of "independent" (small i) voters who chose to vote in the GOP primary for the same reason. Very few voters who went to the polls primarily to pull the lever for Romney or Santorum, however, are switching to Obama in two weeks.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 25, 2012, 09:39:32 PM
According to a Colorado Peak Politics source with access to ballot return numbers, the figures are as follows:

Total:

R: 187,824 (39.7%)

D: 171,971 (36.3%)

U: 108,421 (22.9%)

Mail-In/Absentee Ballots

R: 172,461

D: 158,139

U: 98,532

Early Voting

R: 15,363

D: 13,832

U: 9,889

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2012, 09:52:15 PM
According to a Colorado Peak Politics source with access to ballot return numbers, the figures are as follows:

Total:

R: 187,824 (39.7%)

D: 171,971 (36.3%)

U: 108,421 (22.9%)

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/

D's led in the final in 2008 by 1.8%:

Dem
   37.7%
Rep
   35.9%
No/Oth
   26.4%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 25, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
According to a Colorado Peak Politics source with access to ballot return numbers, the figures are as follows:

Total:

R: 187,824 (39.7%)

D: 171,971 (36.3%)

U: 108,421 (22.9%)

Mail-In/Absentee Ballots

R: 172,461

D: 158,139

U: 98,532

Early Voting

R: 15,363

D: 13,832

U: 9,889

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/
I posted that this morning, but yeah those are good numbers.  Keep it up!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on October 25, 2012, 11:33:28 PM
According to a Colorado Peak Politics source with access to ballot return numbers, the figures are as follows:

Total:

R: 187,824 (39.7%)

D: 171,971 (36.3%)

U: 108,421 (22.9%)

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2012/10/25/oct-25-ballot-returns-republicans-grow-lead-winning-absentee-and-early-voting/

D's led in the final in 2008 by 1.8%:

Dem
   37.7%
Rep
   35.9%
No/Oth
   26.4%

How about this time in 08?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 26, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
Colorado Numbers in 2010

1,211,297

Republicans 40.7%
Democrats   34.6%
Independents 24%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 26, 2012, 12:32:15 AM
Clark County Day 6

Dem- 14,969
Rep- 9,434
Other- 5,866

Total- 30,269

Clark County total (Including Absentees)


Dem- 105,338
Rep- 69,294
Other- 37,107

Total- 211,739


Does not look like Washoe updated their numbers tonight.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 26, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Another +5,500 votes in Clark. Democrats aren't slowing down at all.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 26, 2012, 12:48:47 AM
Another +5,500 votes in Clark. Democrats aren't slowing down at all.

The problem for Romney will be this weekend's numbers. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Mister Twister on October 26, 2012, 01:25:05 AM
Colorado Numbers in 2010

1,211,297

Republicans 40.7%
Democrats   34.6%
Independents 24%

Uh oh for the GOP.... Republicans are currently running under what they did in 2010... where Buck lost by 1.5%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 26, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
Oregon numbers so far:

D: 103.000 returned (12% of all registered Dems)
R:   77.000 returned (11% of all registered GOPers)
I:    33.000 returned (  7% of all registered Indies)

http://oregonvotes.org/doc/history/nov62012/Ballot_Return_Wksht_G12.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on October 26, 2012, 06:17:56 AM
With two weekends still to go, it'd be cool if we can call Nevada based on the early votes alone. Does anyone know if has Miller projected how much of the electorate will have voted early? Upwards of 40%?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 26, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
The GOP is soaring in North Carolina


Yesterday:

Party Reg   
Dem   50.7%
Rep   30.5%
None/Oth   18.8%


Race   
White   65.3%
Black           30.2%
Other   4.5%


Today:


Party Reg   
Dem   50.3%
Rep   30.8%
None/Oth   18.8%


Race   
White   65.9%
Black           29.5%
Other   4.5%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 26, 2012, 09:07:08 AM
Here is the same point in time from 2008:  http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1224745200/

In 2008, this was the D's best week.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 26, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
Florida

Quote
Voted ballots
Party          Total             %
REP        504,940    45%
DEM        445,862    39%
IND        183,527    16%
Total     1,134,329    

Outstanding requests:
Party           Total              %
REP        575,069    39%
DEM        600,629    40%
IND        312,058    21%
Total     1,487,756    

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/#storylink=cpy

Democrats are doing much better in absentees in 2012 compared to 2008, cutting the margin from 16% to 5%. In person Early Voting starts tomorrow and Democrats are expected to dominate as they did in 2008. With a shortened in person early voting window will be interesting to see if they can run up the same margins as last time.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 26, 2012, 11:42:26 AM
Here is the same point in time from 2008:  http://www.carolinatransparency.com/votetracker/gen2008/date/1224745200/

In 2008, this was the D's best week.

Hard for Republicans not to improve on their 2008 numbers, they made almost no effort to promote early voting in 2008. Democrats also have improved from 2008 but they had a much higher bar to clear since they had very good early turnout in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 26, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
As of today in Colorado

Total:
 
R: 187,824 (39.7%)
D: 171,971 (36.3%)
U: 108,421 (22.9%)
 
Mail-In/Absentee Ballots
 
R: 172,461
D: 158,139
U: 98,532
 
Early Voting
 
R: 15,363
D: 13,832
U: 9,889

Colorado has Romney winning Unaffiliateds 43/39




http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/26/file_attachments/170739/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B26%2B2012.pdf


R: 244253 (39.0%)
D: 225850 (36.1%)
I: 149877 (23.9%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 26, 2012, 02:03:23 PM

Iowa today:

R: 118716
D: 175019
I: 81927

R: 31.6%
D: 46.7%
I: 21.8%


Compared to 2004, both D and R are roughly 20k below total absentee counts. I's are 40k below. That is very nice as these are liberal leaning I's.


Iowa today:


R: 135091
D: 192435
I: 95586

R: 31.9%
D: 45.4%
I: 22.6%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 26, 2012, 05:01:20 PM
Florida

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Voted ballots
Party          Total             %
REP        504,940    45%
DEM        445,862    39%
IND        183,527    16%
Total     1,134,329    

Outstanding requests:
Party           Total              %
REP        575,069    39%
DEM        600,629    40%
IND        312,058    21%
Total     1,487,756    

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/#storylink=cpy

Democrats are doing much better in absentees in 2012 compared to 2008, cutting the margin from 16% to 5%. In person Early Voting starts tomorrow and Democrats are expected to dominate as they did in 2008. With a shortened in person early voting window will be interesting to see if they can run up the same margins as last time.


Much like OH, this has another explanation.  And thank you for noting it. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 26, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
IA yesterday:


IA 10/25/12

Dem    45.4%
Rep    31.9%
None/Oth    22.7%

The gap was 18 points in 2008.  It is now 13.5. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on October 26, 2012, 10:40:32 PM
Does anyone have the data for TX?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 26, 2012, 11:24:50 PM

No, but a partial is here:  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

See also:  http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/earlyvoting/index.shtml


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 27, 2012, 03:48:38 AM
With two weekends still to go, it'd be cool if we can call Nevada based on the early votes alone. Does anyone know if has Miller projected how much of the electorate will have voted early? Upwards of 40%?

Probably around 70%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 27, 2012, 06:01:47 AM
Clark County Day 7:

Dem: 13862
Rep: 10161
Ind: 5766

Total: 29789


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 07:18:53 AM
Washoe, NV:

10/25

Total = 8,347  Dems =   3,432  Reps = 3,396

10/26

Total = 5,408 Dems =  2,218, Reps = 2,197


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on October 27, 2012, 07:28:58 AM

That would be impressive. I'm really interested to see which way Washoe will go, too. Nevada's fun. :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 07:30:19 AM

That would be impressive. I'm really interested to see which way Washoe will go, too. Nevada's fun. :)

It was 67% in 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
In this week in 2008, NC had a net D gain of 18,317 due to one stop registration.  This was the best week the D's had.

This week NC had a net gain of 5719.

Democrats have a net lost, so far, about 51,000 voters relative to the Republicans from 2008. 



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
After one week, the Democrats are up 40,000 in Clark County and tied in Washoe. Republicans need to do a lot better in both.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on October 27, 2012, 09:19:46 AM
After one week, the Democrats are up 40,000 in Clark County and tied in Washoe. Republicans need to do a lot better in both.

That's not exactly a close race for the win in Nevada with numbers like that.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
No, it's not. Democrats if they keep up their turnout for another week (don't know how likely that is) will have the same early vote margin as they had in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 27, 2012, 09:21:17 AM
Romney, Karl Rove, Mr and Mr Koch, Wake up and get out of Nevada. Wisconsin and Iowa would be good places to use your funds.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
No, Democrats if they keep up their turnout for another week (don't know how likely that is) will have the same early vote margin as they had in 2008.

I think this weekend's voting will be the key. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 09:26:55 AM
Romney, Karl Rove, Mr and Mr Koch, Wake up and get out of Nevada. Wisconsin and Iowa would be good places to use your funds.

And anger Sheldon Adelson? Never!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on October 27, 2012, 10:09:50 AM

No, but a partial is here:  http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html

See also:  http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/earlyvoting/index.shtml

Looks like the Harris County has a high turnout rate for early voting, that's a good sign if Obama wants to keep this county.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 10:24:32 AM
Yesterday:


Party Reg   
Dem   50.3%
Rep   30.8%
None/Oth   18.8%


Race   
White   65.9%
Black           29.5%
Other   4.5%

Today:

Party Reg    
Dem    50.3%
Rep    30.8%
None/Oth    19.0%
Age    
18-29    10.2%
30-44    16.8%
45-59    27.8%
60+    45.1%
Race    
White    65.9%
Black    29.6%
Other    4.5%
Gender    
Female    55.9%
Male    43.1%
Unk.    1.0%

Younger voters dropped slightly while black voters increased slightly.  The most noticeable changes from 2008 final is a 3.1 points increase with black voters, and a drop in the under 45 voters, of 11.3 points.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 27, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
Cuyahoga absentee ballots look pretty good so far:

Registered Voters 927,996 D 343,392 R 124,967 I 458,193 O 1,444

Vote by Mail Ballots Requested

263,878 133,539 51,107 78,472 760

Vote by Mail Ballots Returned

161,889 91,775 33,149 36,503 462

Requests: 39% of Dems, 41% of Reps and 17% of I
Returned: 27% of Dems, 26% of Reps and 8% of I

...

Composition of requests: 51% D, 19% R, 30% I
Composition of returned: 56% D, 21% R, 23% I

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/AbsenteeVoterbyCityReport11062012.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 27, 2012, 01:28:49 PM
Early voting this Saturday seems to be big in Georgia, with long lines:

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http://www.ajc.com/news/news/heavy-turnout-for-saturday-voting/nSp2H


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on October 27, 2012, 01:30:19 PM
Isn't AA turnout in Georgia suppose to be at a record high?



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 27, 2012, 01:32:39 PM
Isn't AA turnout in Georgia suppose to be at a record high?

Yep:

Quote
Record Turnout Already Among Black Voters in Georgia

State elections officials report that 780,545 Georgians had already voted in the presidential contest as of Friday and 33 percent were black. In 2008, African Americans represented just 30 percent of the full electorate in Georgia, which was a historic high. If the percentage holds this year, it will be recorded as the single largest black voter turnout event in state history.

This would bode extremely well for President Obama across the country, indicating that there’s been no diminution in enthusiasm for Obama among his supporters—and in fact there might have been an increase.

The 780,545 early voters this time is far lower than the 2 million voters who had already cast early ballots in 2008, but a rise in the black voting percentage is good news for the president. It might also indicate that the concerns about how the change in voter ID laws would affect African Americans may not be justified.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/10/27/record-turnout-already-among-black-voters-in-georgia/


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 01:38:53 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 27, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Well, Obama could plunge to 15% among GA Whites.

So, even 33% Blacks won't help carry the state.

60% Whites (x 0.15) = 9%
33% Blacks (x 0.95) = 31.4%
  7% Others (x 0.65) = 4.6%

Obama => 45% in Georgia


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 02:02:08 PM
Ugh, are whites in Georgia really that racist? Aren't there some enlightened ones living in Atlanta?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Mehmentum on October 27, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
Still, its pretty amazing that African Americans are turning out even more than in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 02:58:28 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Actually, I've been noting that black turnout was higher in NC for a while.  It is also older there.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 27, 2012, 03:09:44 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Actually, I've been noting that black turnout was higher in NC for a while.  It is also older there.

J.J., have you commented on lack of enthusiasm in your neighborhood?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 27, 2012, 03:21:37 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Well, Obama could plunge to 15% among GA Whites.

So, even 33% Blacks won't help carry the state.

60% Whites (x 0.15) = 9%
33% Blacks (x 0.95) = 31.4%
  7% Others (x 0.65) = 4.6%

Obama => 45% in Georgia

You need to add more whites.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: King on October 27, 2012, 03:30:32 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Well, Obama could plunge to 15% among GA Whites.

So, even 33% Blacks won't help carry the state.

60% Whites (x 0.15) = 9%
33% Blacks (x 0.95) = 31.4%
  7% Others (x 0.65) = 4.6%

Obama => 45% in Georgia

You need to add more whites.

♫ Sugar, spice, and everything white.  That's what the perfect electorate is made of.  ♫


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 27, 2012, 03:47:12 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Actually, I've been noting that black turnout was higher in NC for a while.  It is also older there.

http://www.sos.ga.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1104/Earlyvotingstats08.htm

Early voting in Georgia in 2008 was 34.6% black, 60.7% white. This 33% is actually below 2008 pace.

Early + total election day voting in Georgia was 30.0% black, 64.1% white.


But why should anyone examine the real numbers when we can just crap them out?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 27, 2012, 03:55:14 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Actually, I've been noting that black turnout was higher in NC for a while.  It is also older there.

http://www.sos.ga.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1104/Earlyvotingstats08.htm

Early voting in Georgia in 2008 was 34.6% black, 60.7% white. This 33% is actually below 2008 pace.

Early + total election day voting in Georgia was 30.0% black, 64.1% white.


But why should anyone examine the real numbers when we can just crap them out?

It would be so wonderful if Mr. Kemp had kept up Karen Handel's updates about early voting on a day to day basis rather than replacing them with his page on zero-base budgeting.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: rob in cal on October 27, 2012, 04:31:48 PM
    Concerning the white racist electorate of Georgia, I'm sure that if the Dems had an all white ticket the white vote would still go very Republican, though not of course quite as Democrat as the black vote.  White voters in much of the South have taken their cue from their black fellow citizens in how to vote in a bloc.
   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
No, that can't be. J.J. told me that black voters weren't very enthusiastic this year.

Actually, I've been noting that black turnout was higher in NC for a while.  It is also older there.

J.J., have you commented on lack of enthusiasm in your neighborhood?

Yes, and until this week, it was there.  We are starting to see signs up, sporadically.  In my precinct, for example the bumper stickers are tied 1 to 1.  :)  I expect that to change.  

It is not yet as strong as last time.  In the more upscale black neighborhoods, Overbrook, there were yard signs starting to go up.  There are some along the highways, that were not there last week.

The ground game, so far, has been me hitting a few doors in my own precinct (some lady took a photo) and a few in SEIU people in another.  

[Okay, I wouldn't be putting any up before a hurricane.]


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
To follow up a bit in PA, the has been a net loss in registered voters:

D -229,000

R -123,000

So the D's have had greater net loss. 

R = 36.9%

D = 50.1%

In 2008:

R = 37.0 %

D = 51.2 %

Net loss of 1.0 points for the D's.  There was no voter registration drive for the D's, which there was in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 27, 2012, 05:24:42 PM
The net loss is likely due to interest in the D primaries in 2008 shifting to interest in the R primaries in 2012, wouldn't you think? Does Pennsylvania limit primary participation to that party?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 27, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
The net loss is likely due to interest in the D primaries in 2008 shifting to interest in the R primaries in 2012, wouldn't you think? Does Pennsylvania limit primary participation to that party?
Bingo, mein freund. I know a great number of people who switch nearly every election cycle just to have a greater effect.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 06:21:45 PM
The net loss is likely due to interest in the D primaries in 2008 shifting to interest in the R primaries in 2012, wouldn't you think? Does Pennsylvania limit primary participation to that party?

No.    It was a net 113 vote gain for the R's. 

http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/voter_registration_statistics/12725

It is very rare for people to change parties in PA. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 27, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
It is very rare for people to change parties in PA. 

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Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 27, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
The net loss is likely due to interest in the D primaries in 2008 shifting to interest in the R primaries in 2012, wouldn't you think? Does Pennsylvania limit primary participation to that party?

No.    It was a net 113 vote gain for the R's. 

http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/voter_registration_statistics/12725

It is very rare for people to change parties in PA. 
Can't argue with the numbers, and there they are. I'm not terribly surprised, I suppose. I mean, there are a ton (a ton!) of D's in PA that have no business being D's whatsoever and probably never vote D.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 06:28:22 PM

And look what happened.  The one before that was Gene Atkinson, who was blown out in the general after barely winning the primary.

Yes, it is very rare for people to change parties.  It gave the R's a net gain of 117 votes this year. 



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
The net loss is likely due to interest in the D primaries in 2008 shifting to interest in the R primaries in 2012, wouldn't you think? Does Pennsylvania limit primary participation to that party?

No.    It was a net 113 vote gain for the R's. 

http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/voter_registration_statistics/12725

It is very rare for people to change parties in PA. 
Can't argue with the numbers, and there they are. I'm not terribly surprised, I suppose. I mean, there are a ton (a ton!) of D's in PA that have no business being D's whatsoever and probably never vote D.

I don't disagree, but that isn't the issue.

In 2008, Obama had a good ground game in PA, including voter registration.  It isn't here now.  In PA, you get purged from the rolls if you have not voted in two years.  I could not tell you the racial makeup of who has been purged, but the turnout for the intervening elections, in my precinct, has been low.  I would think that some have been purged. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: JFK-Democrat on October 27, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
I wonder if Democrats are going to open up a lead in Florida after today or tomorrows early vote totals are calculated? Its seems evident that this state will be a 1-2% assuming Mitt is still leading nationally the weekend before Nov 6th. Otherwise expect Obama to win this state with the same margin as 2008!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
They should, especially after Sunday, with the big focus by black churches on getting their congregations to the polls after service.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 27, 2012, 09:29:41 PM
Here's a link to VA early voting stats being kept by Charlie Cook
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdGhrcnotRXU3SzZUcERPMW1JSWY5Q3c#gid=0

Mccain counties are up, the bad news for Obama is Fairfax, Arlington, and Richmond City are experiencing big early voting drops and all were where he got a lot of raw votes last time.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 27, 2012, 09:58:40 PM
I recall Ed Rendell recruiting tens of thousands of party switchers in 2002.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2012, 10:00:20 PM
Yeah, a lot of people switched to vote in the 2008 Democratic primary as well.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 27, 2012, 10:53:20 PM
I recall Ed Rendell recruiting tens of thousands of party switchers in 2002.

It depends on your definition of "a lot."  That could mean several thousand in PA terms.  200-300  has been known to make news in a congressional district. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 28, 2012, 01:16:51 AM
Dems added another 5,000 to their margin in Clark County today. Romney will surely do better in Washoe this time around, but it's looking like Obama won't drop that much from his 2008 margin in Clark at least.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 28, 2012, 03:35:42 AM
Clark County Day 8

D: 14424
R: 9657
I: 5829

Total: 29910


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 28, 2012, 03:40:53 AM
Dems added another 5,000 to their margin in Clark County today. Romney will surely do better in Washoe this time around, but it's looking like Obama won't drop that much from his 2008 margin in Clark at least.

So, about Obama by 5-10. Or what Mellman said.

I think the underpolling of Hispanics likely continues ...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 28, 2012, 07:14:34 AM
I recall Ed Rendell recruiting tens of thousands of party switchers in 2002.

It depends on your definition of "a lot."  That could mean several thousand in PA terms.  200-300  has been known to make news in a congressional district. 

It's a matter of public record.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 28, 2012, 09:10:19 AM
I recall Ed Rendell recruiting tens of thousands of party switchers in 2002.

It depends on your definition of "a lot."  That could mean several thousand in PA terms.  200-300  has been known to make news in a congressional district. 

It's a matter of public record.

The public record shows a 14,000 vote drop of Republicans  in May 2002.  http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=572645&mode=2

Now, that is a lot for PA, but no where near "tens of thousands." 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on October 28, 2012, 09:47:06 AM
Early voting this Saturday seems to be big in Georgia, with long lines:

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http://www.ajc.com/news/news/heavy-turnout-for-saturday-voting/nSp2H


Judging by the demographics of the lines, this is probably College Park, GA.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: fldemfunds on October 28, 2012, 12:18:08 PM
Florida Dems, we're holding our own:

1 day after early voting Dems cut lead in half w/out AfAm heavy Duval County reporting

ht tp://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/10/with-16m-floridians-having-voted-dems-cut-gop-absentee-vote-lead-in-half-in-1st-early-vote-day.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 28, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
Florida Dems, we're holding our own:

1 day after early voting Dems cut lead in half w/out AfAm heavy Duval County reporting

ht tp://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/10/with-16m-floridians-having-voted-dems-cut-gop-absentee-vote-lead-in-half-in-1st-early-vote-day.html

No, that can't be. Krazen told us other things ...


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: fldemfunds on October 28, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
Tis true. Lines are hours long and Souls to the Polls starts at 1-2pm, so things will pick up even more today. Florida is definitely in play more than the polls show.

It does not seem like there has been a huge drop off of volume of early vote, even with the increased absentee for Dems.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 28, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
Fantastic news! Hopefully black turnout is huge today across the country. It's no coincidence that Obama made a photo op out of taking his daughters to church this morning.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 28, 2012, 03:32:22 PM
NC: 

Dem    49.5%
Rep    31.1%
None/Oth    19.4%
Age    
18-29    10.7%
30-44    18.0%
45-59    28.9%
60+    42.3%
Race    
White    66.4%
Black    28.9%
Other    4.7%
Gender    
Female    55.9%
Male    43.1%
Unk.    1.0%

Black turnout is declining.  Youngs are doing better, but still well below their 2008 numbers.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 28, 2012, 04:26:51 PM
Good thing Jesse Jackson's flying down there to turn them out.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 28, 2012, 04:48:28 PM
NC: I didn't put these #s together, swiped off another site.

A. Raw Vote Comparison
2012/2008/Diff.
Dem.- 726,400/671,700/ +54,700
Rep.- 456,300/ 338,500/ +117,800
Ind.- 282,500/ 209,900/ + 72,600

B.Percentage Change
Dem.- 49.5/ 55.0/ -5.5
Rep.- 31.1/ 27.8/ +3.3
Ind.- 19.3/ 17.2/ +2.1





NC: 

Dem    49.5%
Rep    31.1%
None/Oth    19.4%
Age    
18-29    10.7%
30-44    18.0%
45-59    28.9%
60+    42.3%
Race    
White    66.4%
Black    28.9%
Other    4.7%
Gender    
Female    55.9%
Male    43.1%
Unk.    1.0%

Black turnout is declining.  Youngs are doing better, but still well below their 2008 numbers.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2012, 12:11:53 AM
Turnout was down in Clark today for some reason, but Democrats still increased their lead by 3000 to about 47,000.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 29, 2012, 03:53:02 AM
Clark County Day 9

D: 11248
R: 8272
I: 4967

Total: 24487


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 29, 2012, 05:39:36 AM
Just looking at Clark Co early voting, here is the 2008 final

Dem
   52.0%
Rep
   30.6%
No/Oth
   17.4%

As of 10/27, the in person voting is:

D 49.9
R 32.0
I 18.1

I didn't add in the absentee voting, but it seems to running the same or better for the R's.

Washoe is currently:

D 27365
R 25814
O 11019
D 42.6
R 40.2
O 17.2

In 2008, the final was:

Dem
   52.0%
Rep
   30.6%
No/Oth
   17.4%

The gap there has closed by 21.4 points. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 29, 2012, 06:08:19 AM
Just looking at Clark Co early voting, here is the 2008 final

Dem
   52.0%
Rep
   30.6%
No/Oth
   17.4%

As of 10/27, the in person voting is:

D 49.9
R 32.0
I 18.1

I didn't add in the absentee voting, but it seems to running the same or better for the R's.

Washoe is currently:

D 27365
R 25814
O 11019
D 42.6
R 40.2
O 17.2

In 2008, the final was:

Dem
   52.0%
Rep
   30.6%
No/Oth
   17.4%

The gap there has closed by 21.4 points. 

That's not enough.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on October 29, 2012, 06:57:03 AM
J.J., you have the same 2008 numbers for Clark and Washoe, mang.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 29, 2012, 09:10:03 AM

Iowa today:


R: 135091
D: 192435
I: 95586

R: 31.9%
D: 45.4%
I: 22.6%



R: 151007
D: 209750
I: 109493

R: 32.1%
D: 44.5%
I: 23.2%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on October 29, 2012, 09:56:21 AM
Interesting. Republicans are closing the gap in percentage terms, but Dems maintain and expand it in absolute terms.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 29, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
Interesting. Republicans are closing the gap in percentage terms, but Dems maintain and expand it in absolute terms.

Yes, that is the pattern. For the record, in the past 3 presidential elections, registered Democrats have been at 79% turnout while registered Republicans have been at 81% turnout. The GOP put up a 70k margin on election day 2004 to counter -53k in early voting.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Torie on October 29, 2012, 10:13:25 AM
In other news, the Pub chat or spin or however one chooses to characterize it, is that the Pubs are getting to the polls early their low propensity voters, while the Dems are just cannibalizing their high propensity voters, perhaps just for the optics. So there!  :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: cavalcade on October 29, 2012, 10:27:07 AM
In other news, the Pub chat or spin or however one chooses to characterize it, is that the Pubs are getting to the polls early their low propensity voters, while the Dems are just cannibalizing their high propensity voters, perhaps just for the optics. So there!  :)

Pretty sure Axelrod has been claiming the opposite.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 29, 2012, 10:52:58 AM
Dem turnout in Florida has passed Rep turnout.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/02d4625f10044a63b22796a30f29eee4/FL--Early-Voting

Quote
About 1.9 million Floridians have already cast ballots eight days before Election Day.

The Department of State said as of Monday morning, nearly 1.4 million people had cast absentee ballots and more than 500,000 people cast ballots in person during the early voting period that began Saturday.

The vote is nearly evenly split by party, with 784,444 ballots cast by Democrats and 774,304 ballots cast by Republicans. More than 307,000 ballots have been cast by voters who don't belong to either major party.

The total represents nearly 16 percent of Florida's 11.9 million voters.

Only took 2 days to wipe out Rep advantage in Absentees.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 29, 2012, 10:56:41 AM
Interesting. Republicans are closing the gap in percentage terms, but Dems maintain and expand it in absolute terms.

Dems have expanded it every single day in absolute terms since Early Voting started.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 29, 2012, 12:36:29 PM

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/26/file_attachments/170739/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B26%2B2012.pdf


R: 244253 (39.0%)
D: 225850 (36.1%)
I: 149877 (23.9%)

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/29/file_attachments/171536/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B29%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 1/3 of the vote is in.

D: 289733 (36.0%)
R: 309221 (38.5%)
I: 197308 (24.5%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 29, 2012, 01:09:17 PM
Interesting. Republicans are closing the gap in percentage terms, but Dems maintain and expand it in absolute terms.

There are a number of counties where we don't have separate numbers.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 29, 2012, 03:34:10 PM
Dem turnout in Florida has passed Rep turnout.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/02d4625f10044a63b22796a30f29eee4/FL--Early-Voting

Quote
About 1.9 million Floridians have already cast ballots eight days before Election Day.

The Department of State said as of Monday morning, nearly 1.4 million people had cast absentee ballots and more than 500,000 people cast ballots in person during the early voting period that began Saturday.

The vote is nearly evenly split by party, with 784,444 ballots cast by Democrats and 774,304 ballots cast by Republicans. More than 307,000 ballots have been cast by voters who don't belong to either major party.

The total represents nearly 16 percent of Florida's 11.9 million voters.

Only took 2 days to wipe out Rep advantage in Absentees.

To be expected, because of the changes in the times of early voting. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 29, 2012, 03:38:31 PM
O'Malley cancels early voting for today and tomorrow in MD. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 30, 2012, 12:21:15 AM

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/26/file_attachments/170739/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B26%2B2012.pdf


R: 244253 (39.0%)
D: 225850 (36.1%)
I: 149877 (23.9%)

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/29/file_attachments/171536/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B29%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 1/3 of the vote is in.

D: 289733 (36.0%)
R: 309221 (38.5%)
I: 197308 (24.5%)
I think Romney can pull this off in the end, but it will be down to the wire.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 30, 2012, 03:05:28 AM

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/26/file_attachments/170739/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B26%2B2012.pdf


R: 244253 (39.0%)
D: 225850 (36.1%)
I: 149877 (23.9%)

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/29/file_attachments/171536/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B29%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 1/3 of the vote is in.

D: 289733 (36.0%)
R: 309221 (38.5%)
I: 197308 (24.5%)
I think Romney can pull this off in the end, but it will be down to the wire.

The early voting is OK so far. I think Romney will win, but by a very slim margin. His margin in Colorado will be smaller than his national margin.

Here's a tweet from Adrian Gray

Quote
COLORADO: Early vote stands at 39%R, 36%D with about 20k vote lead for GOP. Dems led 2008 by 2% or 31k in 2008, GOP led by 16k in 2004.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 30, 2012, 03:14:18 AM
Clark County Day 10

D: 14113
R: 12492
I: 6352

Total 32957


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 30, 2012, 03:25:47 AM
If Romney gets a 5 pt uniform swing in 2012, he wins CO by a hair margin

CO:
Romney: 49.71%
Obama: 48.66%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on October 30, 2012, 05:20:55 AM
If Romney gets a 5 pt uniform swing in 2012, he wins CO by a fair margin.


Do you not see your error?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 30, 2012, 06:28:31 AM
If Romney gets a 5 pt uniform swing in 2012, he wins CO by a fair margin.


Do you not see your error?

Yeah... political statistics are not your strong suit are they?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 07:41:44 AM
A swing, in the UK sense of the word, of about 4.5 points would give Romney CO.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on October 30, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
A swing, in the UK sense of the word, of about 4.5 points would give Romney CO.

So what? That's not what the numbers from Colorado, that he was refering to, indicate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
A swing, in the UK sense of the word, of about 4.5 points would give Romney CO.

So what? That's not what the numbers from Colorado, that he was refering to, indicate.

I'm not certain what then he was talking about. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
North Carolina.

Yep, Obama is finished.


2012:

D: 835773 (49.3%)
R: 531134 (31.3%)
I: 329992 (19.4%)

White: 1131731 (66.6%)
Black: 486899 (28.6%)
Other: 81510 (4.8%)

2008:

D: 795442 (54.7%)
R: 406830 (27.9%)
I: 251487 (17.2%)

White: 984076 (67.7%)
Black: 412303 (28.3%)
Other: 58279 (4.0%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Franzl on October 30, 2012, 09:07:36 AM
A swing, in the UK sense of the word, of about 4.5 points would give Romney CO.

So what? That's not what the numbers from Colorado, that he was refering to, indicate.

I'm not certain what then he was talking about. 

COLORADO: Early vote stands at 39%R, 36%D with about 20k vote lead for GOP. Dems led 2008 by 2% or 31k in 2008, GOP led by 16k in 2004.

Since this was a couple of posts above his comment, I'm strongly assuming this. (And the 5% meaning the change from D+2 to R+3.

The problem is that this is not a 5% swing in the sense he interpreted it to mean.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
North Carolina.

Yep, Obama is finished.


2012:

D: 835773 (49.3%)
R: 531134 (31.3%)
I: 329992 (19.4%)

White: 1131731 (66.6%)
Black: 486899 (28.6%)
Other: 81510 (4.8%)

2008:

D: 795442 (54.7%)
R: 406830 (27.9%)
I: 251487 (17.2%)

White: 984076 (67.7%)
Black: 412303 (28.3%)
Other: 58279 (4.0%)

Please that this is a same point in time comparison.

Several observations:

1.  While the electorate is slightly blacker that it was 2008, it is substantially older, so far, with a two year higher median age.  Comparing it to end results the under 45 crowd makes up 9 points less of the electorate.

2.  During this week in 2008, there was an influx of Republican voters along with younger voters.

3.  It is obviously a more Republican electorate, but it is in terms of raw numbers as well as share of the electorate.  In NC, that increase is more than three times Obama's final MOV.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 30, 2012, 10:09:50 AM
My clan of four voted yesterday. Two of them were not voters back in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Simfan34 on October 30, 2012, 10:13:53 AM
0:08, my hope

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP47VpYsN9w


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 10:37:32 AM
The GOP is soaring in Nevada.

http://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/day-10-republicans-have-most-robust-day-yet-clark-still-trail-48000-voters#.UI_y2m_A8l8


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 10:49:50 AM
The GOP is soaring in Nevada.

http://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/day-10-republicans-have-most-robust-day-yet-clark-still-trail-48000-voters#.UI_y2m_A8l8

The gap is still 8 points closer in Clark than the final in 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 10:50:51 AM

R: 151007
D: 209750
I: 109493

R: 32.1%
D: 44.5%
I: 23.2%

Iowa

R: 159866
D: 219778
I: 117485

R: 32.2%
D: 44.2%
I: 23.6%



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 10:52:30 AM

R: 151007
D: 209750
I: 109493

R: 32.1%
D: 44.5%
I: 23.2%

R: 159866
D: 219778
I: 117485

R: 32.2%
D: 44.2%
I: 23.6%



NV? 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 30, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
I think that is Iowa.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 30, 2012, 11:01:53 AM

R: 151007
D: 209750
I: 109493

R: 32.1%
D: 44.5%
I: 23.2%

Iowa

R: 159866
D: 219778
I: 117485

R: 32.2%
D: 44.2%
I: 23.6%



Compared to O8?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 30, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
I think he is comparing it to the previous day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 12:16:46 PM
http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/29/file_attachments/171536/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B29%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 1/3 of the vote is in.

D: 289733 (36.0%)
R: 309221 (38.5%)
I: 197308 (24.5%)

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/30/file_attachments/171833/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B30%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 40% of the vote is in.


D: 343721 (35.5%)
R: 370982 (38.4%)
I: 241294 (25.0%)

R's gaining in relative and absolute terms.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 30, 2012, 12:17:08 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 30, 2012, 12:24:20 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Democrats have 80000 more requests, so it's a done deal.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 30, 2012, 12:27:46 PM
Is there anyway for the next few days before the election if at the end of the night when all of the early voting reports are in that we could get one post with all of the results on it? That would be super convenient! Thanks! :)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 30, 2012, 12:31:53 PM
Is there anyway for the next few days before the election if at the end of the night when all of the early voting reports are in that we could get one post with all of the results on it? That would be super convenient! Thanks! :)

Tender Branson can edit his first post and include all totals.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 02:06:53 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 30, 2012, 02:13:43 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

Do you want a gold star sticker? What's your point?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 30, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

And in 2008 Obama won Iowa by 146K.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 02:31:28 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

Do you want a gold star sticker? What's your point?

The same as yours. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Drew1830 on October 30, 2012, 04:43:19 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

Do you want a gold star sticker? What's your point?

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 30, 2012, 05:02:26 PM

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

Welcome and I agree.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 05:06:16 PM

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

Welcome and I agree.

Unfortunately for you the GOP will be surging 70-80k on election day just like 2004.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

Do you want a gold star sticker? What's your point?

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

One thing that you assume is that Election Day will look like it did in 2008.  These shifts are evidence that it will not. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on October 30, 2012, 05:15:51 PM

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

Welcome and I agree.

Unfortunately for you the GOP will be surging 70-80k on election day just like 2004.

But in 2004 there were fewer early voters. Tougher to get 70-80K out of a smaller pool of voters that will be left on election day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 30, 2012, 05:16:57 PM

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

Welcome and I agree.

Unfortunately for you the GOP will be surging 70-80k on election day just like 2004.

But in 2004 there were fewer early voters. Tougher to get 70-80K out of a smaller pool of voters that will be left on election day.

Has the registration changed? 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Drew1830 on October 30, 2012, 05:31:02 PM
Democrats almost at +60,000 in Iowa. Very nice.

Ah, in 2008, it was +86,000. 

Do you want a gold star sticker? What's your point?

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

One thing that you assume is that Election Day will look like it did in 2008. 

No I'm not. What I'm saying is that it doesn't even have to be THAT close to 2008 for Obama to win.

Iowa is the ultimate bellwether. Obama being +60,000 is him winning.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 05:48:44 PM

The GOP had a 5k advantage in 2004 and an 11k advantage today. Both parties are within 10k of their November 2004 totals. More Democrats now means less later. In 2004 Iowa Republicans cast 20k more votes than Iowa Democrats.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 30, 2012, 05:50:24 PM

Do people like J.J. not understand that Obama won in a landslide last time? Simply being in the same neighborhood as his 2008 numbers is sufficient for him.

+60,000 in Iowa right now = winning

Welcome and I agree.

Unfortunately for you the GOP will be surging 70-80k on election day just like 2004.

But in 2004 there were fewer early voters. Tougher to get 70-80K out of a smaller pool of voters that will be left on election day.

Iowa Republicans have averaged 81% turnout in the last 3 Presidential elections while Iowa Democrats averaged 79%. Your statement is only true if Iowa Republicans decide not to vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Iosif on October 30, 2012, 05:53:31 PM
Mr krazen, how do you like your chances next week? Which states do you think your man will win, which states do you think he'll lose?

Hand on heart.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2012, 12:23:34 AM
Dems now lead by 50k in Clark. Washoe is still a tie basically.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 31, 2012, 12:25:17 AM
VA

Quote
Date: 10/29/2012


For the last two weeks, VPAP has reported on State Board of Elections numbers that indicated absentee voting was brisk this year, compared to 2008.

The SBE now says those numbers were in error. The SBE now says that, with eight days before the election, the pace of absentee voting in Virginia is actually 30% lower compared to the same point four years ago.

Here are the revised numbers of absentee ballots cast so far (as of this morning):

•2008 - 350,000
•2012 - 246,000

http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1094


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on October 31, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
VA

Quote
Date: 10/29/2012


For the last two weeks, VPAP has reported on State Board of Elections numbers that indicated absentee voting was brisk this year, compared to 2008.

The SBE now says those numbers were in error. The SBE now says that, with eight days before the election, the pace of absentee voting in Virginia is actually 30% lower compared to the same point four years ago.

Here are the revised numbers of absentee ballots cast so far (as of this morning):

•2008 - 350,000
•2012 - 246,000

http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1094

I hope there is some sort of explanation.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2012, 12:31:29 AM
lol what?

Don't you need an excuse to vote early in Virginia anyway? I don't think we can make any conclusions about turnout or enthusiasm if it's not no-excuse early voting.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 31, 2012, 12:39:10 AM
VA

Quote
Date: 10/29/2012


For the last two weeks, VPAP has reported on State Board of Elections numbers that indicated absentee voting was brisk this year, compared to 2008.

The SBE now says those numbers were in error. The SBE now says that, with eight days before the election, the pace of absentee voting in Virginia is actually 30% lower compared to the same point four years ago.

Here are the revised numbers of absentee ballots cast so far (as of this morning):

•2008 - 350,000
•2012 - 246,000

http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1094

I hope there is some sort of explanation.

Actually, I can't find one. Last time around, you could only vote absentee via mail in Virginia. This year though, they instituted early in-person voting as well. About 506,000 people voted in total during the 2008 early voting period in Virginia - all via mail; right now, it's 254,000, but there have only been 85,000 returned ballots via mail (http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html). I see the 18-25 demographic lost its dominance among early voters (was around 22% last week, now it's 13%).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 31, 2012, 02:22:07 AM
Clark County Day 11

D: 13014
R: 10097
I: 6029

Total: 29140


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: philly09 on October 31, 2012, 02:33:07 AM
VA

Quote
Date: 10/29/2012


For the last two weeks, VPAP has reported on State Board of Elections numbers that indicated absentee voting was brisk this year, compared to 2008.

The SBE now says those numbers were in error. The SBE now says that, with eight days before the election, the pace of absentee voting in Virginia is actually 30% lower compared to the same point four years ago.

Here are the revised numbers of absentee ballots cast so far (as of this morning):

•2008 - 350,000
•2012 - 246,000

http://www.vpap.org/updates/show/1094

I hope there is some sort of explanation.

Actually, I can't find one. Last time around, you could only vote absentee via mail in Virginia. This year though, they instituted early in-person voting as well. About 506,000 people voted in total during the 2008 early voting period in Virginia - all via mail; right now, it's 254,000, but there have only been 85,000 returned ballots via mail (http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html). I see the 18-25 demographic lost its dominance among early voters (was around 22% last week, now it's 13%).


Wouldn't Sandy have an impact on early voting in VA?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 08:41:53 AM
Oct 30, 2012:
D: 914697 (48.8%)
R: 592712 (31.6%)
I: 368034 (19.6%)

W: 1259425 (67.0%)
B: 529584 (28.2%)
O: 90111 (4.8%)

Average age: 54



Oct 28, 2008:

D: 899781 (53.9%)
R: 477071 (28.6%)
I: 290260 (17.4%)

W: 1137954 (68.2%)
B: 463564 (27.8%)
O: 66526 (3.9%)

Average age: 52





These next few days are when the early vote for the under 40 crowd surged in 2008.


Pollsters of course claim that obama is winning the EV in 2012 by identical margins to 2008. Bull!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 31, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
NC R's came out in this week for McCain in 2008.  If the patten holds, it will obviously R's gains. 


Title: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: Brittain33 on October 31, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 10:16:24 AM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html

Hahaha! A poll can claim such, but the EV sample is over 32% Republican registered voters.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 31, 2012, 10:29:21 AM
Iowa polls are meaningless now.


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: Brittain33 on October 31, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html

Hahaha! A poll can claim such, but the EV sample is over 32% Republican registered voters.

Sounds like Obama is soaring among Indies!


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: Ljube on October 31, 2012, 10:43:37 AM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html

Hahaha! A poll can claim such, but the EV sample is over 32% Republican registered voters.

Sounds like Obama is soaring among Indies!

We know Iowa “Indies” are pro Obama. That’s why I called Iowa for Obama already.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: opebo on October 31, 2012, 10:48:30 AM

Why, did the hurricane hit Iowa?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on October 31, 2012, 10:51:31 AM

Too many people voting early = impossible to poll properly.


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 11:13:24 AM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html

Hahaha! A poll can claim such, but the EV sample is over 32% Republican registered voters.

Sounds like Obama is soaring among Indies!

Mathematically possible, of course. McCain got 36% of the Iowa early vote when it consisted of many more Democrats and many fewer Republicans.

Alternatively, the poll is junk, as it claims that Romney is getting 40% of Independents.


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: J. J. on October 31, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html

Hahaha! A poll can claim such, but the EV sample is over 32% Republican registered voters.

Sounds like Obama is soaring among Indies!

He'd have to getting something along the lines 80% of the independents for that number to be accurate. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 31, 2012, 01:11:25 PM


Iowa

R: 159866
D: 219778
I: 117485

R: 32.2%
D: 44.2%
I: 23.6%



That was yesterday.  Today:

Dem    43.7%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.1%
   

The final gap in 2008 was 18 points.  It is now 11.5.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
Clark County Day 11

D: 13014
R: 10097
I: 6029

Total: 29140

Yep, the GOP is closing well in Nevada with its superior efforts at getting its registered voters to vote.

D: 234578 (44.3%)
R: 199077 (37.6%)
I: 96256 (18.2%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Axelrod on Morning Joe today said they're running 15-18% ahead with Iowa early voters and expect 40-45% of the electorate to vote before election day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 31, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
looking good in FL



http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/democrats-face-early-vote-hurdle-fla


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/30/file_attachments/171833/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B30%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 40% of the vote is in.


D: 343721 (35.5%)
R: 370982 (38.4%)
I: 241294 (25.0%)




R: 439269 (38.2%)
D: 404870 (35.2%)
I: 295112 (25.6%)


R's gaining in relative and absolute terms.

It's a glorious day!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 31, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/30/file_attachments/171833/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B30%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 40% of the vote is in.


D: 343721 (35.5%)
R: 370982 (38.4%)
I: 241294 (25.0%)




R: 439269 (38.2%)
D: 404870 (35.2%)
I: 295112 (25.6%)


R's gaining in relative and absolute terms.

It's a glorious day!
Good news, hope it stays like this or the gap widens until election night.

Secondly, why is Denver and Boulder county high on Democrat turnout? Where is the GOP in thouse counties?


Title: Re: Obama soars with Iowa early voters
Post by: Seriously? on October 31, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
Obama soars among early voters in Iowa, 64/35.

Excellent news!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-5-in-wisconsin-and-iowa.html
It's very dangerous to put a ton of stock in a statistically insignificant subsample like that. What's the MOE on the subgroup? I doubt given the actual numbers in Iowa (D/R/I) breakdown that J.J. has posted here (44/32/24) that those 64/35 numbers are accurate. If so, only 3% of those I votes are going Romney.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 31, 2012, 03:18:46 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/10/30/file_attachments/171833/Gen%2BTurnout%2B10%2B30%2B2012.pdf

Roughly 40% of the vote is in.


D: 343721 (35.5%)
R: 370982 (38.4%)
I: 241294 (25.0%)




R: 439269 (38.2%)
D: 404870 (35.2%)
I: 295112 (25.6%)


R's gaining in relative and absolute terms.

It's a glorious day!
Good news, hope it stays like this or the gap widens until election night.

Secondly, why is Denver and Boulder county high on Democrat turnout? Where is the GOP in thouse counties?

Well, those counties have excess Democrats. Both parties are turning out the same there. Thankfully turnout is lagging on those 2 counties.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on October 31, 2012, 03:28:10 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama Romney.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1. Secondly, 2010 is not 2012, expect different results.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9. Democrat enthusiasm was higher in 2008 than 2012.
Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama Romney 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk in 2008. In 2012, undecideds will break for the challenger.
Fixed


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 31, 2012, 03:35:40 PM
Oregon ballot returns so far point to a similar overall turnout like in 2008.

Registered Democrats and Republicans are returning ballots in about equal % numbers, just like in 2008.

In 2008, 89% of registered OR Dems returned a ballot and 88% of Republicans.

As of yesterday, both Dems and Republicans have a 35% return rate.

Of course there are much more registered Dems in OR than Republicans (40% vs. 31%).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Tender Branson on October 31, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
The OR numbers point to a roughly 10% Obama winning margin on Tuesday.

40% D (Obama 90%) -> 36%
31% R (Obama 10%) -> 3%
29% I (Obama 55%) -> 16% (The latest SurveyUSA and Hoffman polls have Obama ahead by an average of 10% among OR Indies).

55% Obama, 45% Romney


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on October 31, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 05:37:23 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?

They don't. Republicans are outperforming voter registration in Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina.

Colorado is such that it has more Republicans than Democrats and they are soaring to the polls this time.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on October 31, 2012, 05:39:42 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?

They don't. Republicans are outperforming voter registration in Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina.

Colorado is such that it has more Republicans than Democrats and they are soaring to the polls this time.

Tender Branson is saying in 2010, the early voting was R+6 but ultimately Bennet won by 1%...nobody's disputing right now it's R+3, which seems to imply a narrow Obama victory. I'm listening very intently, krazen.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on October 31, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?

They don't. Republicans are outperforming voter registration in Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina.

Colorado is such that it has more Republicans than Democrats and they are soaring to the polls this time.

Tender Branson is saying in 2010, the early voting was R+6 but ultimately Bennet won by 1%...nobody's disputing right now it's R+3, which seems to imply a narrow Obama victory. I'm listening very intently, krazen.

Of course. He and you both presume that independents will vote the same in this election as they did in those. Why would that be so?

In that same 2010 election Republicans won 3 statewide offices and the aggregate house vote  by 5 points. Of course they had better candidates in those races than Mr. Buck.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on October 31, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?

They don't. Republicans are outperforming voter registration in Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina.

Colorado is such that it has more Republicans than Democrats and they are soaring to the polls this time.

Tender Branson is saying in 2010, the early voting was R+6 but ultimately Bennet won by 1%...nobody's disputing right now it's R+3, which seems to imply a narrow Obama victory. I'm listening very intently, krazen.

Of course. He and you both presume that independents will vote the same in this election as they did in those. Why would that be so?

In that same 2010 election Republicans won 3 statewide offices and the aggregate house vote  by 5 points. Of course they had better candidates in those races than Mr. Buck.

...the Secretary of State victory was just 51-49...but Suthers won by double-digits and Gessler won decisively despite a third party 'American Conservative' candidate getting 7% of the vote. Checking that made me feel better, but I'm still nowhere near confident.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: HST1948 on October 31, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
CO looks ok so far for Obama.

Remember that the final early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Bennet won by 1.

In 2008, the final early vote was D+1.5 and Obama won by 9.

Currently it's R+3 in the early vote. Which would point to a Obama 3-4% winning margin.

Remember that CO Indies are an Obama-leaning folk.

I'd just made my own thread before noticing this...why do Colorado Republicans vote early so much more than their counterparts in other states?

They don't. Republicans are outperforming voter registration in Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina.

Colorado is such that it has more Republicans than Democrats and they are soaring to the polls this time.

Tender Branson is saying in 2010, the early voting was R+6 but ultimately Bennet won by 1%...nobody's disputing right now it's R+3, which seems to imply a narrow Obama victory. I'm listening very intently, krazen.

Of course. He and you both presume that independents will vote the same in this election as they did in those. Why would that be so?

In that same 2010 election Republicans won 3 statewide offices and the aggregate house vote  by 5 points. Of course they had better candidates in those races than Mr. Buck.

I'll give you that Romney is an infinitely better candidate than Buck, I don't think anyone would deny that, but I also think that people underestimate the extent to which Obama is a better candidate than Bennett was. Lets not forget, Obama has actually won a state wide election in this state, where as in 2010, Bennett had not, and was appointed by an unpopular governor to fill a vacant senate seat. In addition, Bennett was the superintendent of the Denver public schools, not a well known figure in CO, until he was appointed to the senate, and really, until the 2010 campaign began. My point is, when we are comparing states like Nevada and Colorado which elected Democratic senators in 2010 because of flawed republican nominees, it is easy to over look the fact that the Democrats that won were extremely flawed as well, and Obama, like Romney, may to some extent be a better candidate. I will also concede that the 2012 early voting certainly makes Colorado look more favorable to the Republicans than it did 2008, but I also don't think that anyone can say with confidence that this race is anything more than a tossup right now.     


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on October 31, 2012, 09:37:50 PM
Ohio Democrats who voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 530,813
Change from 2008: -181,275

Ohio Republicans had voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 448,357
Change from 2008: +75,858

Republican swing from 2008: 257,133
Obama's 2008 margin of victory: 262,224



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
Ohio Democrats who voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 530,813
Change from 2008: -181,275

Ohio Republicans had voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 448,357
Change from 2008: +75,858

Republican swing from 2008: 257,133
Obama's 2008 margin of victory: 262,224



Come on dude, I explained this a few pages ago. Those numbers are meaningless.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on October 31, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
Ohio Democrats who voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 530,813
Change from 2008: -181,275

Ohio Republicans had voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 448,357
Change from 2008: +75,858

Republican swing from 2008: 257,133
Obama's 2008 margin of victory: 262,224



This is what Adrian Gray's tweeting.  Looking really solid for Romney.  Early voting is strong for GOP this time.  There is nothing to suggest that D+8> turnout is going to happen. :D


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on October 31, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Ohio Democrats who voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 530,813
Change from 2008: -181,275

Ohio Republicans had voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 448,357
Change from 2008: +75,858

Republican swing from 2008: 257,133
Obama's 2008 margin of victory: 262,224



Come on dude, I explained this a few pages ago. Those numbers are meaningless.

They are not meaningless, though not the most solid indicator, either.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on October 31, 2012, 10:04:11 PM
Ohio Democrats who voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 530,813
Change from 2008: -181,275

Ohio Republicans had voted early or had requested or cast an absentee ballot: 448,357
Change from 2008: +75,858

Republican swing from 2008: 257,133
Obama's 2008 margin of victory: 262,224



Come on dude, I explained this a few pages ago. Those numbers are meaningless.
I wouldn't call those numbers "meaningless," just not as meaningful as other states due to the primary system in Ohio.

With that said, the true comparison to measure enthusiasm in Ohio would be to compare counties. Right now, Cuyahoga (Cleveland) is lagging from '08. That's the D's main stronghold.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on October 31, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Just voted in CA.

Since nobody's vote in the presidential election matters in this state, here's what I did vote for re: the propositions:

Prop 30: Yes
Prop 31: No
Prop 32: No
Prop 33: No
Prop 34: Yes
Prop 35: Yes
Prop 36: Yes
Prop 37: Yes
Prop 38: No
Prop 39: Yes
Prop 40: Yes


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 31, 2012, 11:24:51 PM
I wish New York had cool propositions to vote on! :(


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 12:30:35 AM
Dems up to a 55k lead in Clark County after today. With two days of early voting left, they should break 60k.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 01, 2012, 02:28:23 AM
Dems up to a 55k lead in Clark County after today. With two days of early voting left, they should break 60k.
What's the magic number in your mind for Obama to pull off a victory in Nevada on Election Day?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 01, 2012, 03:45:30 AM
Clark County Day 12

D: 13083
R: 8924
I: 6017

Total: 28024


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 01, 2012, 04:07:09 AM
Total in Nevada including all counties and all votes (early and absentee):

D: 235514
R: 200678
I: 96872

10/31/2012 data not included.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on November 01, 2012, 06:57:22 AM
Dems up to a 55k lead in Clark County after today. With two days of early voting left, they should break 60k.
What's the magic number in your mind for Obama to pull off a victory in Nevada on Election Day?

With this number and Reid's turnout machine coming out to play, I think Obama's got this state in the bag.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 01, 2012, 07:53:50 AM
Dems up to a 55k lead in Clark County after today. With two days of early voting left, they should break 60k.
What's the magic number in your mind for Obama to pull off a victory in Nevada on Election Day?

With this number and Reid's turnout machine coming out to play, I think Obama's got this state in the bag.
My calculations have the Democrat margin somewhere between 25,000 and 35,000 votes through 10/30 (depending on how you apportion the independents). Is that an insurmountable number for the Republicans to overcome historically on Election Day?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 08:29:27 AM

These next few days are when the early vote for the under 40 crowd surged in 2008.


Pollsters of course claim that obama is winning the EV in 2012 by identical margins to 2008. Bull!

NC early vote still moves heavily old and Republican! Half the vote is in.


D: 996299 (48.3%)
R: 654125 (31.8%)
I: 407651 (19.8%)

W: 1389593 (67.4%)
B: 572984 (27.8%)
O: 99619 (4.8%)

Oct 29, 2008:

D: 1006355 (53.2%)
R: 551056 (29.1%)
I: 332506 (17.6%)

W: 1299945 (68.7%)
B: 515112 (27.2%)
O: 75940 (4.0%)





This must be this ground game big talk. Less Democrats are voting and Romney is creating more and more new Republican whites. People over 45 make up 70% of the vote. Huzzah!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 01, 2012, 09:01:13 AM
Nevada is more in play than I expected, going to come down to independents.

Dems up to a 55k lead in Clark County after today. With two days of early voting left, they should break 60k.
What's the magic number in your mind for Obama to pull off a victory in Nevada on Election Day?

With this number and Reid's turnout machine coming out to play, I think Obama's got this state in the bag.
My calculations have the Democrat margin somewhere between 25,000 and 35,000 votes through 10/30 (depending on how you apportion the independents). Is that an insurmountable number for the Republicans to overcome historically on Election Day?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 10:26:53 AM


Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.7%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.1%

Iowa today:

   
Dem    43.3%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.4%
   

The final gap in 2008 was 18 points.  It is now 11.1.


There is another factor, not reported.  They are permitting 100 people to gather together and request am early voting polling station.  This is expected to help Romney.  We don't know how much.

The gap has been shrinking so far. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 01, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

He won the early vote by 18, so a lot of McCain's vote was on election day. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
looking good in FL



http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/democrats-face-early-vote-hurdle-fla


Still looking good.


D: 1296808 (42.5%)
R: 1238152 (40.6%)
I: 517000 (16.9%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 12:21:41 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.

So far, the D numbers are dropping on a daily basis in IA. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.

So far, the D numbers are dropping on a daily basis in IA. 

No, the D raw vote margin has been increasing basically every day. It's now at about +62,000.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 12:42:41 PM

R: 439269 (38.2%)
D: 404870 (35.2%)
I: 295112 (25.6%)



Colorado:

R: 493457 (37.8%)
D: 457337 (35.0%)
I: 341920 (26.2%)


Lovely.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 12:44:25 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.

So far, the D numbers are dropping on a daily basis in IA. 

No, the D raw vote margin has been increasing basically every day. It's now at about +62,000.

Iowa yesterday:

Dem    43.7%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.1%

Iowa today:

   
Dem    43.3%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.4%

I think it has been doing that all week. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
Are you not reading my posts or what?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on November 01, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

He won the early vote by 18, so a lot of McCain's vote was on election day. 

Indeed, McCain won Iowa on E-Day, but Obama's EaV (EaV = early vote, as opposed to ElV = electoral vote) margin was strong enough to overwhelm McCain's E-Day voters.

Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.

So far, the D numbers are dropping on a daily basis in IA.  

No, the D raw vote margin has been increasing basically every day. It's now at about +62,000.

Which seems to translate into a narrow victory for Romney (though I'll admit an Obama win isn't out of the question). Keith Backer says between 60K and 120K is a tossup; that's overly optimistic (certainly, if Obama's past 90K he's got this state in the bag, I think), but I'm pretty sure the cutoff is more like 80K, not 70K. Certainly, Lief, I think you can agree at 62K Romney's more likely to win IA than Obama.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 12:52:25 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on November 01, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

Out of curiosity, why do you think the Democrats will build on their 62K? I recall it was 58K like a week ago; but that swing doesn't seem to me to be large enough to indicate some sort of sudden last-minute surge in Democratic EaV support. Or is it?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 01:02:12 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

Out of curiosity, why do you think the Democrats will build on their 62K? I recall it was 58K like a week ago; but that swing doesn't seem to me to be large enough to indicate some sort of sudden last-minute surge in Democratic EaV support. Or is it?

Ballots have to be postmarked by Monday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
Well Democrats have been steadily building on their support since early voting began. I assume the heaviest early voting is at the end, so the number of daily voters should increase in the final days.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 01, 2012, 01:04:38 PM
Democrats have 80000 requests more.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on November 01, 2012, 01:10:41 PM
Well Democrats have been steadily building on their support since early voting began. I assume the heaviest early voting is at the end, so the number of daily voters should increase in the final days.

Even if the swing from the last week is doubled over the next 4 days (or 5 if J.J. is wrong, doesn't really matter), you only hit 70K, which still, I think, translates to Romney being mildly favored. But most of my reading on Iowa EaV has been from rather right-wing sources, so I could be wrong.

60K, I think, is the Romney cutoff; if Obama's held below that, Romney's victory in IA is essentially certain.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 01, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

He won the early vote by 18, so a lot of McCain's vote was on election day. 

Indeed, McCain won Iowa on E-Day, but Obama's EaV (EaV = early vote, as opposed to ElV = electoral vote) margin was strong enough to overwhelm McCain's E-Day voters.

Iowa early vote turnout has now surpassed 2008's early vote turnout.
What do you think of the change in Dem proportions in the state, then? The polls certainly seem to bode well for Obama, but the swing in finalg gap isn't wondrous. Enough to hold, do you suppose, considering that Obama won by 9 in '08?

Well in 2008 the Republican campaign didn't focus on early voting at all. It makes sense that now that they do, at least to an extent, some of their election day voters are moving to early vote and thus the Democratic margin is shrinking. But if Democrats can get their margin up to 70,000 by the end of early voting in Iowa (5 more days), then I think we're in a good position.

So far, the D numbers are dropping on a daily basis in IA.  

No, the D raw vote margin has been increasing basically every day. It's now at about +62,000.

Which seems to translate into a narrow victory for Romney (though I'll admit an Obama win isn't out of the question). Keith Backer says between 60K and 120K is a tossup; that's overly optimistic (certainly, if Obama's past 90K he's got this state in the bag, I think), but I'm pretty sure the cutoff is more like 80K, not 70K. Certainly, Lief, I think you can agree at 62K Romney's more likely to win IA than Obama.

Keith Backer fails Algebra 2.

Democrats won by 96K in 2008 with a turnout of 481K Early, meaning there was more of the vote to be won on election day, and Obama won in the end by 9. Democrats currently lead by 62,000 with a turnout of 557K, and with that increasing 30K a day. If Democrats lead by 67K with a turnout of 660K, Romney has to win on election day by much more than McCain because there is a much smaller slice of the electorate.

Let's  assume the election was tomorrow and that the electorate has grown by 5% since 2008(odd since it did not grow 2004 to 2008).

Obama wins 91/8/45 among early voters. This is quite good for Romney since evidence is indies voting early are being turnout out by the Obama campaign.

Obama gets a lead of

314K
243K

Or about 61,000 votes. Total turnout on election day would be 1063. Romney would have to win 53-47.

Now lets assume the final numbers are the requests which are 291K D, 208K R, 175K I.

We get

Obama 360K
Romney 275K

Problem is, election day turnout is now only 945K. Romney now needs to win by 8, 54-46, on election day to break even.

This whole thing assumes a ten point Romney win among independents who vote early. If we assume they even break even then we get

369K Obama
265K Romney

And Romney needs to win election day by close to 12, 56-44.

So even if the absolute margin stays the same, higher turnout raises the election-day threshold.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 01, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

Out of curiosity, why do you think the Democrats will build on their 62K? I recall it was 58K like a week ago; but that swing doesn't seem to me to be large enough to indicate some sort of sudden last-minute surge in Democratic EaV support. Or is it?

Ballots have to be postmarked by Monday.

Its been increasing from between 600 and 1200 every day for two weeks. Minimum is probably around 65K(for Tuesday, not counting late arriving absentees).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on November 01, 2012, 01:20:23 PM
Considering the heavy dissonance between EaV and E-Day in Iowa in 2008 (if I remember correctly, EaV was O+18, but E-Day was M+2) and that independents generally have been breaking to Romney, I'm not sure a high-single-digits Romney victory on E-Day is unlikely, though I'll admit your math illustrates it's likely to be necessary.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 01:48:22 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Vosem on November 01, 2012, 01:49:31 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.

Ah, I'm sorry. What are your rules again (could you please provide me with a link)? I'd like to be able to refer to them over the next few days.


Title: High early turnout here in Tennessee!
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on November 01, 2012, 02:46:56 PM
20.6% of the state's population!

Quote
Early voting across Tennessee continued at a strong pace leading into Thursday, the final day to vote before next Tuesday’s election. More than 106,000 voters statewide cast their ballots yesterday, bringing the overall total to more than 1,322,000 voters through 13 days.


Title: Re: Early voting and absentee thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 02:51:46 PM
20.6% of the state's population!

Quote
Early voting across Tennessee continued at a strong pace leading into Thursday, the final day to vote before next Tuesday’s election. More than 106,000 voters statewide cast their ballots yesterday, bringing the overall total to more than 1,322,000 voters through 13 days.

Actually, last time, it was 1,550,939 and was 59% of the electorate. 


Title: Re: Early voting and absentee thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on November 01, 2012, 03:04:38 PM
20.6% of the state's population!

Quote
Early voting across Tennessee continued at a strong pace leading into Thursday, the final day to vote before next Tuesday’s election. More than 106,000 voters statewide cast their ballots yesterday, bringing the overall total to more than 1,322,000 voters through 13 days.

Actually, last time, it was 1,550,939 and was 59% of the electorate. 

Guess I didn't know that.  I guess it should be close to (or just under) that this time as well.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 01, 2012, 03:23:11 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 03:35:50 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.

In Iowa both sides are cannibalizing their election day turnout. Turnout is very consistent in Iowa elections so we already know how many people are going to vote; it's just a matter of when.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 01, 2012, 03:38:19 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.

In Iowa both sides are cannibalizing their election day turnout. Turnout is very consistent in Iowa elections so we already know how many people are going to vote; it's just a matter of when.

Precisely my point.  That leaves fewer Republicans and more Democrats in the pool on election day than in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 01, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.

In Iowa both sides are cannibalizing their election day turnout. Turnout is very consistent in Iowa elections so we already know how many people are going to vote; it's just a matter of when.

Precisely my point.  That leaves fewer Republicans and more Democrats in the pool on election day than in 2008.

Well, yes, but in 2008 Democrats  had an edge of over 100,000 voters. Thus, they build a 90k edge in early voting and still were nearly even on election day. In 2012 the Republicans have an edge of 10,000 voters.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on November 01, 2012, 03:47:59 PM
Georgia had approximately 300,000 people vote early between 11:30 yesterday - 11:30 today. This brings the total share of the vote to just under 1.5 million (1,478,546). While I haven't been recording the daily numbers, I believe this is the biggest one-day turnout so far - even bigger than last Saturday.

One and a half more days of this turnout and Georgia will be close to hitting its 2008 early voting total (2,020,839). What's even better is that this is being done with a much shorter voting period this year (45 days in 2008, 21 days in 2012).


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 01, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.

In Iowa both sides are cannibalizing their election day turnout. Turnout is very consistent in Iowa elections so we already know how many people are going to vote; it's just a matter of when.

Precisely my point.  That leaves fewer Republicans and more Democrats in the pool on election day than in 2008.

Well, yes, but in 2008 Democrats  had an edge of over 100,000 voters. Thus, they build a 90k edge in early voting and still were nearly even on election day. In 2012 the Republicans have an edge of 10,000 voters.

But where did the 100K go?  They were probably indies who wanted to caucus for Obama or Hillary in 2008.  Many of them would also want to caucus for Romney or Santorum this time around, knowing that Obama was unchallenged.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 05:36:18 PM
I mean, if early voting ended today for some reason and we only led by 62k then that wouldn't be great. But there are five more days to go.

Obviously, I mean if EaV concluded with Democrats ahead 62K. We'll see what the final margin is. But you shouldn't count on last-minute swings towards your candidate. Pretty sure that's one of J.J.'s rules, isn't it?

No, and you can get last minute swings.  The thing is that the share of the electoral that the D's are holding has been declining.



The question, though, is how many of these additional early voters the R's are turning out were election day McCain voters in 2008?  It is well noted that the Romney campaign has emphasized early voting much more than McCain did.

They have had an increase in R registration.  The polling is also showing it a lot closer. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/democrats-crushing-republicans-sporadic-fla-voters-early-voting#comments

Quote
A trusted Democratic operative sent us some data on the early and absentee ballot vote in Florida so far to make the point that Barack Obama is crushing Mitt Romney when it comes to banking the votes of sporadic and infrequent voters before election day. So far more than 3 million Floridians have cast a ballot by absentee, mail-in ballot or in-person early vote ballot. Democrats lead by more than 60,000 votes, but it's the unlikely voter numbers that jump out:

Of the nearly 414,000 Floridians who did not vote in the last three general elections, Democrats have an advantage of more than 53,000 votes. Of the more than 482,000 Floridians who have only voted in one of the last three general elections, Democrats lead by more than 77,000 - a total of more than 132,000.

So what does this mean?

Republicans convincingly note that Obama's early/absentee vote advantage is falling short of where it was four years ago, when the state allowed more early voting days (advantage Democrats), and Obama went into election day with a lead of about 280,000 early and absentee votes. John McCain won election day voting but lost Florida by about 236,000 votes.

"In 2008, the Democrats collected almost 83,000 early votes at EV sites.,'' noted Orange County GOP Chairman Lew Oliver. "With just 3 days left in early voting in 2012, the Democrats are at less than 34,000 total votes at EV sites.  It is very very difficult to see how they can get anywhere near their 2008 EV totals, notwithstanding that they have actually ADDED nearly 30,000 more registered voters."

We chatted with Ashley Walker, director of the Florida Obama campaign, about this:

"This isn't 2008. We don't have 15 days of early vote. We have 8 days, and so it's a different race," Walker said. "When you really dig down and start looking at at these numbers in who is turning out with these vote-by-mail numbers and early vote numbers, more of our sporadic, irregular voters than theirs by a three-to-one margin. And that means we have more old faithfuls to come out on election day. I'm not going to try to bullsh**t you - it's a tight race, it's a really close race, but any spin they're trying to feed you that we're behind where we were in 2008 is just spin....It's a totally different race. The opportunities and the rules of the game are totally different."

Q: But aren't the rules of the game (shortened early voting hours) working against you?

Walker: They're not. They tried to stack up the rules of the game against voter registration. We ran the largest voter registration effort this state has ever seen. They decided to decrease early vote so that they have more of an emphasis on vote-by-mail,and we played on their playing field and cut into their margin. And now each day we're stacking up votes on early voting, and we're turning out more of their sporadic voters than they are."

Q: Isn't it fair to assume that Romney, that the Republican nominee, will again win Florida on election day?

Walker: No, absolutely not. This race is tight. This is a very, very tight race. That's not spin. If it wasn't a tight race Romney would not be here all week. They wouldn't be scouting out locations for event on Monday. If they had it locked up, they would be in states where they don't have it locked up because there are plenty of them that they are still trying to cut into our edge."


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 08:47:28 PM
You are one likes internal polls.  Because of the change in early voting more D's voted absentee in FL.  That's all that there is. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
What are you even talking about?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 09:03:28 PM

You, citing a D operative as evidence that Obama could carry FL. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 01, 2012, 09:05:46 PM
I'm just passing information, from the Tampa Bay Times, a non-partisan newspaper, along. Don't believe it if you don't want to.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 01, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
I'm just passing information, from the Tampa Bay Times, a non-partisan newspaper, along. Don't believe it if you don't want to.

Which is quoting a Democratic operative.

Tom Ridge said Romney will win PA too. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 01, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
Cuyahoga county, OH voting down 6k vs 2012, not looking good for your turnout models.....

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on November 01, 2012, 09:28:04 PM
Cuyahoga county, OH voting down 6k vs 2012, not looking good for your turnout models.....

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

That document says its down 21K


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 01, 2012, 09:29:27 PM
I'm saying versus sametime in 2008.  Also translates to down 15%

Cuyahoga county, OH voting down 6k vs 2012, not looking good for your turnout models.....

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

That document says its down 21K


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 01, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
romney up 36k in Co, not counting independents

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/11/01/file_attachments/172596/Gen%2BTurnout%2B11%2B01%2B2012.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 01, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
Republicans look poised to take Washoe county, if they continue what they are doing in Clark we actually have a decent shot at Nevada, I didn't expect that.

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/01/another-day-another-washoe-county-win-for-republicans-in-early-voting/

Dems up 55k in Clark, going to be close.
http://www.ralstonflash.com/blog/democratic-lead-clark-55000-washoe-remains-tight#.UJM9mYZyhSh



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on November 01, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
In the past, Washoe determined the winner of Nevada. However it is possible, that Washoe could go say Romney by 4 or 5 and still have Obama win Nevada based on Clark alone. Nevada is a state that is rapidly changing.

It does bode better for Heller though, since he probably will outrun Romney a greater then his statewide outrunning, in Washoe.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Torie on November 01, 2012, 11:45:30 PM
In the past, Washoe determined the winner of Nevada. However it is possible, that Washoe could go say Romney by 4 or 5 and still have Obama win Nevada based on Clark alone. Nevada is a state that is rapidly changing.

It does bode better for Heller though, since he probably will outrun Romney a greater then his statewide outrunning, in Washoe.



For what it is worth, I suspect the cow counties in NV will swing to Romney from 2008 by more than Washoe does.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on November 01, 2012, 11:53:51 PM
romney up 36k in Co, not counting independents

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/11/01/file_attachments/172596/Gen%2BTurnout%2B11%2B01%2B2012.pdf
GOP ahead in all swing counties still.  I think Romney will win CO around 45-49% of the vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: greenforest32 on November 02, 2012, 12:13:14 AM
Where are the Arizona early voting numbers? It's pretty quiet for a state that had 53% of its votes cast early in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2012, 12:35:18 AM
Big day for Dems in Clark, as they added 6000 to their margin and are now over 60k total. Republicans netted about 200 votes in Washoe and it's still basically tied there. Early voting ends tomorrow.


Title: Early and projected voter turnout sharply down in Georgia exurb
Post by: Adam Griffin on November 02, 2012, 05:18:23 AM
Excellent (http://cherokeetribune.com/bookmark/20663890-Weather-may-chill-local-early-voting-turnout-):

Quote
"Already just fewer than 30,000 voters have cast a ballot in Cherokee County during early voting, and Elections Supervisor Janet Munda said Tuesday she now predicts about 70,000 to 80,000 voters will cast a ballot in the presidential election."

Cherokee County, GA 2008: 93,973 voters; 74.8% McCain

If turnout is this bad in just a few of these Republican bastions, it could seriously make a difference. A drop in Cherokee from 95,000 to 75,000 would come very close to being a 10% reduction in the total 2008 margin.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on November 02, 2012, 06:41:09 AM
Update: I went through the latest release of raw data and extracted the results from some of the largest and/or more interesting Georgia counties thus far.

As of 11:30 AM 11/1/12:

Fulton - 142,958
Dekalb - 132,316
Cobb - 93,977
Gwinnett - 85,036
Henry - 52,362
Clayton - 45,335
Cherokee - 42,481
Chatham - 31,681
Richmond - 30,139
Muscogee - 29,817
Douglas - 26,098
Hall - 22,809
Bibb - 21,669
Newton - 21,617
Lowndes - 20,157
Clarke - 16,142
Floyd - 12,638
Whitfield - 9,488

5-County Metro ATL Total: 499,632
Georgia Total: 1,478,546


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on November 02, 2012, 08:04:10 AM
Big day for Dems in Clark, as they added 6000 to their margin and are now over 60k total. Republicans netted about 200 votes in Washoe and it's still basically tied there. Early voting ends tomorrow.

I'm sure that's what Obama was hoping for when he campaigned there the other day.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 02, 2012, 08:12:34 AM
Big day for Dems in Clark, as they added 6000 to their margin and are now over 60k total. Republicans netted about 200 votes in Washoe and it's still basically tied there. Early voting ends tomorrow.

I'm sure that's what Obama was hoping for when he campaigned there the other day.

Campaigning obviously matters. A lot.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 02, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
NC early vote still moves heavily old and Republican! Half the vote is in.


D: 996299 (48.3%)
R: 654125 (31.8%)
I: 407651 (19.8%)

W: 1389593 (67.4%)
B: 572984 (27.8%)
O: 99619 (4.8%)

Oct 29, 2008:

D: 1006355 (53.2%)
R: 551056 (29.1%)
I: 332506 (17.6%)

W: 1299945 (68.7%)
B: 515112 (27.2%)
O: 75940 (4.0%)


This must be this ground game big talk. Less Democrats are voting and Romney is creating more and more new Republican whites. People over 45 make up 70% of the vote. Huzzah!


More surging by the Republican party!


Nov 1, 2012:

D: 1083235 (48.0%)
R: 718559 (31.9%)
O: 451494 (20.0%)

W: 1528802 (67.8%)
B: 618752 (27.4%)
O: 110362 (4.9%)

Oct 30, 2008:

D: 1118195 (52.5%)
R: 630585 (29.6%)
I: 379666 (17.9%)

W: 1472676 (69.1%)
B: 570460 (26.8%)
O: 86603 (4.1%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 02, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
NC early vote still moves heavily old and Republican! Half the vote is in.


D: 996299 (48.3%)
R: 654125 (31.8%)
I: 407651 (19.8%)

W: 1389593 (67.4%)
B: 572984 (27.8%)
O: 99619 (4.8%)

Oct 29, 2008:

D: 1006355 (53.2%)
R: 551056 (29.1%)
I: 332506 (17.6%)

W: 1299945 (68.7%)
B: 515112 (27.2%)
O: 75940 (4.0%)


This must be this ground game big talk. Less Democrats are voting and Romney is creating more and more new Republican whites. People over 45 make up 70% of the vote. Huzzah!


More surging by the Republican party!


Nov 1, 2012:

D: 1083235 (48.0%)
R: 718559 (31.9%)
O: 451494 (20.0%)

W: 1528802 (67.8%)
B: 618752 (27.4%)
O: 110362 (4.9%)

Oct 30, 2008:

D: 1118195 (52.5%)
R: 630585 (29.6%)
I: 379666 (17.9%)

W: 1472676 (69.1%)
B: 570460 (26.8%)
O: 86603 (4.1%)


NC is probably gone.  I'd still want to know how many of the other 4-5% were McCain Dixiecrats, though.  The fact that the electorate in a big state is coming in at least 1% more diverse than 2008 is a good sign for Obama nationally.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 02, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
But where did the 100K go?  They were probably indies who wanted to caucus for Obama or Hillary in 2008.  Many of them would also want to caucus for Romney or Santorum this time around, knowing that Obama was unchallenged.


Some moved, some died, some perhaps became indies or Republicans. 20k just registered this month. But the raw number of Indies is down.


Here is voter registration in 2008:

http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/VRStatsArchive/2008/CongNov08.pdf


D: 698839
R: 592397
I: 711705


http://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/VRStatsArchive/2012/CongNov12.pdf

D: 628043
R: 629443
I: 694558



Certainly the number of partisans is a wash.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 02, 2012, 10:35:08 AM

NC is probably gone.  I'd still want to know how many of the other 4-5% were McCain Dixiecrats, though.  The fact that the electorate in a big state is coming in at least 1% more diverse than 2008 is a good sign for Obama nationally.

Tough to say. By the age distribution the 18-44 demographic is down 7% compared to the end of EV in 2008. Seniors are up 17%. It's the 18-44 white Democrats who are presumably gone.




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2012, 10:49:01 AM
Colorado

Total ballots cast as of November 2: 1,462,163
 
R – 547,150 (37.4%)
 
D – 509,091 (34.8%)
 
U – 390,875 (26.7%)

http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/11/02/file_attachments/172876/Gen%2BTurnout%2B11%2B02%2B2012.pdf (http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/COSOS/2012/11/02/file_attachments/172876/Gen%2BTurnout%2B11%2B02%2B2012.pdf)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 02, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Still looking good.


D: 1296808 (42.5%)
R: 1238152 (40.6%)
I: 517000 (16.9%)

Florida is pretty static.

R: 1396031 (40.3%)
D: 1471862 (42.5%)
I: 595634 (17.2%)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Rules for me, but not for thee on November 02, 2012, 12:36:14 PM
All Obama Counties in Tennessee

2008: 36,144
2012: 25,317

Change: -30%

All McCain Counties in Tennessee (except Henry which has not reported 2012EV totals):

2008: 71,846
2012: 94,588

Change: +31.7%

From here that included links to the TN SoS official early voting data:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/330857/dramatic-shifts-early-voting-tennessee-north-carolina


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 02, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
All Obama Counties in Tennessee

2008: 36,144
2012: 25,317

Change: -30%

All McCain Counties in Tennessee (except Henry which has not reported 2012EV totals):

2008: 71,846
2012: 94,588

Change: +31.7%

From here that included links to the TN SoS official early voting data:
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/330857/dramatic-shifts-early-voting-tennessee-north-carolina


Further supports my expectation of a 2:1 Romney win here.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 02, 2012, 03:01:51 PM
Big day for Dems in Clark, as they added 6000 to their margin and are now over 60k total. Republicans netted about 200 votes in Washoe and it's still basically tied there. Early voting ends tomorrow.

I'm sure that's what Obama was hoping for when he campaigned there the other day.

Campaigning obviously matters. A lot.

Yeah, one of the counties way up there in Ohio is Belmont County, where Paul Ryan had a rally.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2012, 04:11:09 PM



Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.3%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.4%

Iowa today:

Dem    43.0%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.8%
   

The final gap in 2008 was 18 points.  It is now 10.8, and consistently declining.




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on November 02, 2012, 04:26:22 PM



Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.3%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.4%

Iowa today:

Dem    43.0%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.8%
   

The final gap in 2008 was 18 points.  It is now 10.8, and consistently declining.




But Marist says Obama is winning early voters by 30 points. Trust  the polls, not the votes.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2012, 04:47:11 PM


Ah, I'm sorry. What are your rules again (could you please provide me with a link)? I'd like to be able to refer to them over the next few days.

J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

Corollary to the First Rule:  "Never trust just one poll.  Trust several and remember that the electorate changes its mind quickly."
 
J. J.'s Second Rule of Elections:  "When a politician or activist talks about a large group of voters that, a. aren't being polled, or b. really going to turn out and swing the election, there is no such group."
 
J. J.'s Third Rule of Elections:  "Supposed indicators, crowd size, signs and bumper stickers, letters to the editor, are meaningless in terms of actual voter support, though might be an indicator of campaign organization."


 




Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 02, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
VA EARLY VOTE: Telling that the two extremes here are Buchanan (103.3%), a Kerry/McCain coal zone, & Portsmouth (33.8%), Af-Am city.



Glorious news!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: rob in cal on November 02, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
    Just heard a hilarious claim by Stephanie Cutter, an Obama campaign deputy director on the radio news.  She acknowledged its a close race, but said that in every battleground state Dems are ahead two to one in early voting.  Wonder if she's been smoking the same stuff Dick Morris has been, just the Dem version of it.  I do believe Obama has a lead in battleground early voting at least in some states anyway but not two to one.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on November 02, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
VA EARLY VOTE: Telling that the two extremes here are Buchanan (103.3%), a Kerry/McCain coal zone, & Portsmouth (33.8%), Af-Am city.



Glorious news!

SURGING!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on November 02, 2012, 07:44:55 PM
Very good simplified analysis of who is winning early voting. Its from the Atlantic, who has had strong learn to the left for the last 5 years. But it seems to be a very fair analysis.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/whos-really-winning-early-voting/264436/

NC- Romney
FL - Romney
CO - Romney

IA - Obama
NV - Obama

OH- possibly Obama (but she really bases this on polling, not voting)

VA, WI, MI, PA, NH - draw or inconclusive or doesn't matter b/c there is minimal early vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 02, 2012, 07:50:53 PM
Very good simplified analysis of who is winning early voting. Its from the Atlantic, who has had strong learn to the left for the last 5 years. But it seems to be a very fair analysis.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/whos-really-winning-early-voting/264436/

NC- Romney
FL - Romney
CO - Romney

IA - Obama
NV - Obama

OH- possibly Obama (but she really bases this on polling, not voting)

VA, WI, MI, PA, NH - draw or inconclusive or doesn't matter b/c there is minimal early vote.


I made the same conclusions.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: pepper11 on November 02, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Question: Regarding Ohio party ID. If you voted D in 08 and DID NOT vote in 2010 primary, are you considered Independent or Dem.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Does anybody know how Arizona & Texas is doing with early voting?  I'd assume it has a good turnout for the GOP in both states.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 02, 2012, 10:20:07 PM
Question: Regarding Ohio party ID. If you voted D in 08 and DID NOT vote in 2010 primary, are you considered Independent or Dem.
Dem, goes back to the last way you voted.  So yeah there will be crossover coming around this time :D


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 02, 2012, 10:23:11 PM
VA EARLY VOTE: Telling that the two extremes here are Buchanan (103.3%), a Kerry/McCain coal zone, & Portsmouth (33.8%), Af-Am city.



Glorious news!

GOP has made up 8% on the Dems vs 08 from what I saw overall as of today.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 02, 2012, 10:28:19 PM
So my best friend lives in Charlotte he was saying he heard today on the radio that Dem campaigners were pulling out of NC...... anyone else hear anything.  It is pretty much gone.

Quote
Larry Schweikart ‏@LSchweikart
NC Early Voting: Obama already sunk! Ds down 35k from 08, Rs up 88k. Zero won by 14k. Buh-bye!



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: 5280 on November 02, 2012, 11:01:02 PM
Anybody going to answer my question?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 02, 2012, 11:08:37 PM
Washoe County Nevada

Tonight (Early Votes)

Total 14,234

Dem 5,343
Rep 5,348

Total (all Early Votes + Absentees thru Thur)

Total 124,499

Dem 50,269
Rep 50,219

Turnout

69% of 2008 total turnout. 

So be basically we have a tie, which is good for Obama. He does not need to win Washoe, he just has to hold Romney's advantage down to less than about 5%.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
Arizona doesn't publish early vote numbers at all, as far as I can tell. Texas does, but there's no party registration in Texas, so all they publish are the county by county vote totals.

Wow, Republicans won Washoe today by five votes. Super close!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2012, 11:14:52 PM
Does anybody know how Arizona & Texas is doing with early voting?  I'd assume it has a good turnout for the GOP in both states.

TX only gives the the 15 biggest counties with no partisan breakdown.  It's at 34.3.  http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/earlyvoting/2012/nov1.shtml

AZ has nothing.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 02, 2012, 11:24:12 PM
Very good simplified analysis of who is winning early voting. Its from the Atlantic, who has had strong learn to the left for the last 5 years. But it seems to be a very fair analysis.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/whos-really-winning-early-voting/264436/

NC- Romney
FL - Romney
CO - Romney

IA - Obama
NV - Obama

OH- possibly Obama (but she really bases this on polling, not voting)

VA, WI, MI, PA, NH - draw or inconclusive or doesn't matter b/c there is minimal early vote.


Good article, though I'd disagree about IA.  The Democrats have been steadily declining and their absentee application advantage has failed to translate into votes cast.

I would note that NJ will have early voting to offset the hurricane disruption. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 02, 2012, 11:45:49 PM
Does anybody know how Arizona & Texas is doing with early voting?  I'd assume it has a good turnout for the GOP in both states.
There's just info on Maricopa Co. for AZ. Tx just releases its 15 largest cities. I don't have th expertise to contrast and compare. Here's the raw data.

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html (http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2012.html)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 02, 2012, 11:46:59 PM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2012, 11:52:06 PM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 02, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.
What does weekend early voting have to do with depressed turnout during the week? If Obama's voters were motivated, they'd be voting MORE not LESS in Obamaphone country during the week to compensate.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2012, 12:03:45 AM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.
What does weekend early voting have to do with depressed turnout during the week? If Obama's voters were motivated, they'd be voting MORE not LESS in Obamaphone country during the week to compensate.

Um, they are? After twenty-three days of early voting, there 36,578 votes (according to that PDF at least... I'm pretty sure there are a lot more than that). After twenty-three days of early voting in 2008 there were 16,991 votes (again, according to that PDF... there were actually a lot more than that). According to the GMU site, there have been 196,844 votes in Cuyahoga last time it was updated, so again I have no idea what that PDF means.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 03, 2012, 12:13:14 AM
In house early voting.

and on GMUs site Cuyahoga is down 10% overall early vote vs 08 at this point.

Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.
What does weekend early voting have to do with depressed turnout during the week? If Obama's voters were motivated, they'd be voting MORE not LESS in Obamaphone country during the week to compensate.

Um, they are? After twenty-three days of early voting, there 36,578 votes (according to that PDF at least... I'm pretty sure there are a lot more than that). After twenty-three days of early voting in 2008 there were 16,991 votes (again, according to that PDF... there were actually a lot more than that). According to the GMU site, there have been 196,844 votes in Cuyahoga last time it was updated, so again I have no idea what that PDF means.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Rumors that Democrats had a massive final day in Clark County, netting 9,600 votes and ending with a total margin of over 70k. If that's the case, then it's about time to call the state for Obama. And Heller's in trouble.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 03, 2012, 01:27:14 AM
Confirmed!

Quote
@RalstonReports
Official Clark numbers: Dems gained 9,638 voters. Turnout was by far biggest of two weeks -- 48K. With mail tally, lead is just over 70K.

Nevada is gone for Romney. The question is whether or not it's gone for Heller.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Reds4 on November 03, 2012, 01:37:32 AM
Agree on this one... Romney needs to just give up on Nevada... out of reach.

Confirmed!

Quote
@RalstonReports
Official Clark numbers: Dems gained 9,638 voters. Turnout was by far biggest of two weeks -- 48K. With mail tally, lead is just over 70K.

Nevada is gone for Romney. The question is whether or not it's gone for Heller.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 03, 2012, 01:47:12 AM
Confirmed!

Quote
@RalstonReports
Official Clark numbers: Dems gained 9,638 voters. Turnout was by far biggest of two weeks -- 48K. With mail tally, lead is just over 70K.

Nevada is gone for Romney. The question is whether or not it's gone for Heller.
I suspect you're ultimately right in the end, however, it's closer than you think. Modeling directly from the SUSA poll, assuming an R+3 with the crossover vote and an R+7 with Independents, Obama is ahead by somewhere between 8,000-13,000 votes statewide through Thursday.

Romney would have to take election day by two points (R+2) to overcome that edge. Doable, but increasingly unlikely under SUSA's analysis of R+1 on Election Day.

My guess is that it will move up to R+3 when the last Clark numbers cross into the SoS database after I plug them into my spreadsheet tomorrow morning. Also keep in mind that absentees can still flow in, which favor R+5 on average, but those will probably be deminimus along the fringes as to the final needed number for Romney.

Note: that's all back of the envelope math right now and not modeled to reflect the third party vote. Once Early Voting is in the books, I'll refine it a bit, add the third parties and also add some modeling for undecideds.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 03, 2012, 04:29:21 AM
Arizona doesn't publish early vote numbers at all, as far as I can tell. Texas does, but there's no party registration in Texas, so all they publish are the county by county vote totals.

Wow, Republicans won Washoe today by five votes. Super close!

Remember the old rule: As goes Washoe, so goes Nevada. ;)


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2012, 08:35:38 AM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.
What does weekend early voting have to do with depressed turnout during the week? If Obama's voters were motivated, they'd be voting MORE not LESS in Obamaphone country during the week to compensate.

They have jobs.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2012, 08:36:21 AM
Confirmed!

Quote
@RalstonReports
Official Clark numbers: Dems gained 9,638 voters. Turnout was by far biggest of two weeks -- 48K. With mail tally, lead is just over 70K.

Nevada is gone for Romney. The question is whether or not it's gone for Heller.

Holy crap. Maybe Berkley could have a miracle after all.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 03, 2012, 09:07:42 AM
Cuyahoga county was down another 800 votes today vs 08 or 11% down vs same day 08.

Down 16% overall vs 08 at same time.


http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

Yeah, that's what happens when you take away early voting during the weekend for nakedly partisan reasons. It's a disgrace.
What does weekend early voting have to do with depressed turnout during the week? If Obama's voters were motivated, they'd be voting MORE not LESS in Obamaphone country during the week to compensate.

They have jobs.
I don't care how many jobs you have. Requesting an absentee is easy. Two weeks or whatever the period was in Ohio (15 days?) is more than enough time to vote early. I have no sympathy for either candidate if they can't get out the vote in this time frame.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 09:25:05 AM
Considering that I live in a state without early voting, I really do not see how this is suppression, especially since every voter was sent an absentee ballot application. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
Considering that I live in a state without early voting, I really do not see how this is suppression, especially since every voter was sent an absentee ballot application. 

Early voting was instituted because under the Republican SOS, voting lines in 2004 were so long (several hours) that they disenfranchised people who because of work and family requirements could not devote that time. Democratic voters are more likely to be in hourly jobs and lack the flexibility and transportation tools that give affluent retirees and professionals more leeway in when they vote.

Republicans cut down the early vote window in 2012 because they didn't like how well it enabled Democratic voters to exercise their right without a substantial penalty in waiting time in 2008.

The right to vote should be what's important here, and enabling people to exercise it. Not whether you are "ok" with a certain extra degree of inconvenience on voters with family and work commitments.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 09:51:24 AM
Considering that I live in a state without early voting, I really do not see how this is suppression, especially since every voter was sent an absentee ballot application. 

Early voting was instituted because under the Republican SOS, voting lines in 2004 were so long (several hours) that they disenfranchised people who because of work and family requirements could not devote that time. Democratic voters are more likely to be in hourly jobs and lack the flexibility and transportation tools that give affluent retirees and professionals more leeway in when they vote.

Well, they can send in the application by mail; they don't have to wait at all.  It is not like there is no a viable alternative.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
NC, R's have a net gain of 50,000 registered voters (including same day voters) over 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 03, 2012, 10:23:44 AM
Considering that I live in a state without early voting, I really do not see how this is suppression, especially since every voter was sent an absentee ballot application. 
That's because it's NOT suppression. Early voting is an expanse of the right to vote by the individual states. The states have the right to set the places and manner of the election, so long as the regular vote is scheduled for the first Tuesday in November.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 11:42:31 AM
This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

Democratic turnout bumped a bit yesterday:

Dem    47.6%
Rep    31.8%
None/Oth    20.6%

That gap has shrunk by 5.8 points, from 21.2 to 15.8 points. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 11:52:02 AM

Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.0%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.8%

Iowa Today:

Dem    42.6%
Rep    32.3%
None/Oth    25.2%
   
The final gap in 2008 was 18.0.   



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 03, 2012, 12:14:18 PM
This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

What conclusion might you draw from that, taken along with your observation that Republican early turnout is significantly higher than in 2008? Recall that Obama stressed early voting in both elections, while Republicans only stressed it this election.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 03, 2012, 12:17:51 PM

Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.0%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.8%

Iowa Today:

Dem    42.6%
Rep    32.3%
None/Oth    25.2%
   
The final gap in 2008 was 18.0.   



Absolute Gap just passed 63K. Also we are probably looking at 43% or so cast early rather than 36%. Is their weekend voting this weekend?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2012, 12:18:58 PM
Considering that I live in a state without early voting, I really do not see how this is suppression, especially since every voter was sent an absentee ballot application. 
That's because it's NOT suppression. Early voting is an expanse of the right to vote by the individual states. The states have the right to set the places and manner of the election, so long as the regular vote is scheduled for the first Tuesday in November.

To really ensure fairness, the rules would all need to be set federally.  See Canada, where they use a uniform bilingual ballot format across all of the provinces for federal offices.  Voting procedure, ideally, should be standardized across the states in federal elections.  For governor and state legislature, they can do as they please.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 03, 2012, 12:20:58 PM

Iowa yesterday: 

Dem    43.0%
Rep    32.2%
None/Oth    24.8%

Iowa Today:

Dem    42.6%
Rep    32.3%
None/Oth    25.2%
   
The final gap in 2008 was 18.0.   



Absolute Gap just passed 63K. Also we are probably looking at 43% or so cast early rather than 36%. Is their weekend voting this weekend?

Apparently a number of counties are doing in-person today as the only weekend day of the whole period.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 03, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

What conclusion might you draw from that, taken along with your observation that Republican early turnout is significantly higher than in 2008? Recall that Obama stressed early voting in both elections, while Republicans only stressed it this election.

Yep, those 2008 election day McCain voters are really getting out the early vote this year.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

What conclusion might you draw from that, taken along with your observation that Republican early turnout is significantly higher than in 2008? Recall that Obama stressed early voting in both elections, while Republicans only stressed it this election.

Well, a few people pointed to the proportional increase in black voters and it will account for a slight increase in the black proportion of the electorate.  It will not be proportional to the number of registered black voters. 

Basically, there are more black voters in 2012 in NC, but the proportion of those that turn out will decline.

Hypothetically, assume that there is a constituency A.  In 2008, these were the numbers:

10,000 black voters:

75% turn out

7500 black voters turn out

In 2012:

12,000 black voters

73% turn out

8760 black voters turn out. 

Those are just hypothetical numbers, but I wanted to note that, in such cases, it wouldn't be 9,000. 



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 03, 2012, 03:17:34 PM

This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

North Carolina

2008:
Age
18-29      14.9%   
30-44      23.5%   


2012:
Age   
18-29   12.2%
30-44   20.9%





The white Democrats who have dropped out of the pool are in the <45 agegroup. For instance, 25 year olds cast over 30,000 votes in 2008 and 22,000 votes thus far in 2012. Youth turnout is at 2004ish levels, at least here.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 03, 2012, 03:23:09 PM
This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

What conclusion might you draw from that, taken along with your observation that Republican early turnout is significantly higher than in 2008? Recall that Obama stressed early voting in both elections, while Republicans only stressed it this election.

Well, a few people pointed to the proportional increase in black voters and it will account for a slight increase in the black proportion of the electorate.  It will not be proportional to the number of registered black voters. 

Basically, there are more black voters in 2012 in NC, but the proportion of those that turn out will decline.

Hypothetically, assume that there is a constituency A.  In 2008, these were the numbers:

10,000 black voters:

75% turn out

7500 black voters turn out

In 2012:

12,000 black voters

73% turn out

8760 black voters turn out. 

Those are just hypothetical numbers, but I wanted to note that, in such cases, it wouldn't be 9,000. 



Interesting, but unlikely to be true in reality.

Currently, with one day of Early voting left, and with over 50% of the vote in

46% of Registered African Americans
36% of Registered Whites
30% Others

Have voted. African American turnout % should be pretty close to the white one if not exceeding it.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 03, 2012, 03:23:52 PM

This was mentioned before:

In NC the % of the electorate in 2008 that was black was 21.6.

In 2012, it was 22.4.

While there has been an increase in the black share of the electorate, and black people represent a slighter % of the electorate, it at a lower rate.

2008 (same point in time):  26.7

2012:  27.1

North Carolina

2008:
Age
18-29      14.9%   
30-44      23.5%   


2012:
Age   
18-29   12.2%
30-44   20.9%





The white Democrats who have dropped out of the pool are in the <45 agegroup. For instance, 25 year olds cast over 30,000 votes in 2008 and 22,000 votes thus far in 2012. Youth turnout is at 2004ish levels, at least here.

Also true


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 03, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 04:33:36 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Less than 50 K, but I'd still give the advantage to Obama. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Ljube on November 03, 2012, 04:37:24 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Less than 50 K, but I'd still give the advantage to Obama. 

What's your final prediction? Mine is Obama +4.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: CatoMinor on November 03, 2012, 04:41:22 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Non Obamney options are getting 19% in NV???


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Seriously? on November 03, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Less than 50 K, but I'd still give the advantage to Obama. 

What's your final prediction? Mine is Obama +4.
Back of the envelope math using SUSA as a guide suggests about at 12,000 lead for Obama in the early vote. Romney would have to go somewhere between +4 and +5 with the remaining absentees and early votes to eke out a win there. Guess is Obama takes it, but more like by +2 or +3.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 03, 2012, 04:55:32 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Less than 50 K, but I'd still give the advantage to Obama. 

Better than I expected, however what's the number Obama was up last time on EV?  I figured it will be within 2, may get lucky but Nevada is the one place Republicans may be cannibalizing their early vote.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 05:27:58 PM

Interesting, but unlikely to be true in reality.

Currently, with one day of Early voting left, and with over 50% of the vote in

46% of Registered African Americans
36% of Registered Whites
30% Others

Have voted. African American turnout % should be pretty close to the white one if not exceeding it.

Well the figures were hypothetical.  The percentage of the black electorate, while still strong, has dropped a bit from 2008.  That might play into modeling a bit. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 03, 2012, 05:38:59 PM

Yep, those 2008 election day McCain voters are really getting out the early vote this year.

My guess is that these are not the McCain voters and that Obama will do worse in IA on election day than he did 2008. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 04, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
Nevada early voting results - updated 11/03/2012

Votes cast: 701845 - 56%
D: 307877
R: 259913
I: 134055

Advantage D+47964

Early voting ended yesterday.


Less than 50 K, but I'd still give the advantage to Obama. 

Better than I expected, however what's the number Obama was up last time on EV?  I figured it will be within 2, may get lucky but Nevada is the one place Republicans may be cannibalizing their early vote.

I'd guess about 2.





Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2012, 06:30:20 PM
@PeterHambyCNN: Dems in Ohio blowing up early vote today in blue counties like Cuyahoga, Lucas, Franklin. Some GOP anxiety about it.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Yank2133 on November 04, 2012, 06:36:51 PM
@PeterHambyCNN: Dems in Ohio blowing up early vote today in blue counties like Cuyahoga, Lucas, Franklin. Some GOP anxiety about it.

Well.......


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 08:19:58 PM
Not in Cuyahoga for in house early voting, lol.  They lost another 1000 compared to the same day in 08. 

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

GMU site shows overall Cuyahoga down 9% and Franklin down 16% since 08..

You guys know Hamilton is going GOP right, so don't get excited that it's going to hit it's 08 numbers or exceed :D


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
If true, the wave is coming :) I will say I've been in Chicago a lot the last month and I've been telling you guys I have seen virtually zero visible support for Obama.

Quote
The Illinois Republican party claims early and absentee voting has precipitously fallen since the 2008 presidential election.

According to the numbers, at this point in 2008, there were 260,376 early voters and 304,290 absentee voters. Now, the party maintains, there are 195,064 early voters and 46,232 absentee voters. That's a loss of 57 percent of voters, since the last election.

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/massive-decrease-early-and-absentee-voting-chicago_660299.html


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 04, 2012, 08:37:31 PM
Not in Cuyahoga for in house early voting, lol.  They lost another 1000 compared to the same day in 08. 

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/2008_2012InHouseVotingDailyComparison.pdf

GMU site shows overall Cuyahoga down 9% and Franklin down 16% since 08..

You guys know Hamilton is going GOP right, so don't get excited that it's going to hit it's 08 numbers or exceed :D

Updating is terrible right now.

At the moment Cuyathoga is at 240K, not including early voting today. Assuming those numbers are complete, actual numbers are at 243K, 9K less than 2008, and 96% of the total for that year.

Franklin numbers are way above whats on the GMU site. Without today's inperson numbers, they are at 213K rather than the 176K reported on the GMU site.

If you are going to use the county sites, dont be a complete hack. Actually use the numbers on the county sites rather than picking and choosing numbers from different dates to try and spread bs.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
Pardon me, I don't have Franklin counties link, I only have Cuyahoga and GMU so I'm not trying to be a hack.  If you've got it post it.  Cuyahoga isn't up today it's down.  Mccain counties are up big through EVing.  Maybe Franklin is up, it's going to be too little. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 08:45:49 PM
Down 90k vs 08 :D

Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree
Final early vote tally in Miami-Dade County, Florida - 235,733; in 2008, the early vote there was 325,903



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Penelope on November 04, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
If true, the wave is coming :) I will say I've been in Chicago a lot the last month and I've been telling you guys I have seen virtually zero visible support for Obama.

Quote
The Illinois Republican party claims early and absentee voting has precipitously fallen since the 2008 presidential election.

According to the numbers, at this point in 2008, there were 260,376 early voters and 304,290 absentee voters. Now, the party maintains, there are 195,064 early voters and 46,232 absentee voters. That's a loss of 57 percent of voters, since the last election.

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/massive-decrease-early-and-absentee-voting-chicago_660299.html

Why would people in Chicago visibly support Obama? Sure that's where he's from, but there's no reason for there to be visible Obama support in a state Obama is going to win with about 20%.

Are you seriously implying Romney has a chance in Illinois because there aren't huge banners with "OBAMA!" on them?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2012, 09:06:26 PM
Down 90k vs 08 :D

Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree
Final early vote tally in Miami-Dade County, Florida - 235,733; in 2008, the early vote there was 325,903



Yeah, a lot of that has shifted to absentee. There's a reason the Republican absentee margin has been shrunk so much.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Drew1830 on November 04, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
Down 90k vs 08 :D

Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree
Final early vote tally in Miami-Dade County, Florida - 235,733; in 2008, the early vote there was 325,903



You do realize that early voting hours were cut in half since 2008?

Cliffy makes heatmaster look rational and informed.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 09:55:44 PM
Didn't imply that at all, I've even stated before no way Romney wins IL.  Just noting support down massively.

If true, the wave is coming :) I will say I've been in Chicago a lot the last month and I've been telling you guys I have seen virtually zero visible support for Obama.

Quote
The Illinois Republican party claims early and absentee voting has precipitously fallen since the 2008 presidential election.

According to the numbers, at this point in 2008, there were 260,376 early voters and 304,290 absentee voters. Now, the party maintains, there are 195,064 early voters and 46,232 absentee voters. That's a loss of 57 percent of voters, since the last election.

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/massive-decrease-early-and-absentee-voting-chicago_660299.html

Why would people in Chicago visibly support Obama? Sure that's where he's from, but there's no reason for there to be visible Obama support in a state Obama is going to win with about 20%.

Are you seriously implying Romney has a chance in Illinois because there aren't huge banners with "OBAMA!" on them?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 04, 2012, 10:03:05 PM
Pardon me, I don't have Franklin counties link, I only have Cuyahoga and GMU so I'm not trying to be a hack.  If you've got it post it.  Cuyahoga isn't up today it's down.  Mccain counties are up big through EVing.  Maybe Franklin is up, it's going to be too little. 

Sorry about that.

Cuyathoga - 240K
http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_boe/en-US/2012/AbsenteeVoterbyCityReport11062012.pdf

Franklin - 213K
http://vote.franklincountyohio.gov/absentee/absentee-district-counts.cfm


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 04, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
FYI,

the #s I ran earlier are correct on the overall down. I ran your #s vs the 08 #s and they came out the same.  Evidently GMU has his % of 2008 vote # updated correctly (if you calculate based on the 12' EV # he shows it's lower than the % he actually has listed)


Cuyahoga is down 9% and Franklin is down 16% vs 08.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 04, 2012, 11:11:21 PM
FYI,

the #s I ran earlier are correct on the overall down. I ran your #s vs the 08 #s and they came out the same.  Evidently GMU has his % of 2008 vote # updated correctly (if you calculate based on the 12' EV # he shows it's lower than the % he actually has listed)


Cuyahoga is down 9% and Franklin is down 16% vs 08.

Sorry then, apparently he made the error.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Non Swing Voter on November 05, 2012, 01:14:37 AM
Pardon me, I don't have Franklin counties link, I only have Cuyahoga and GMU so I'm not trying to be a hack.  If you've got it post it.  Cuyahoga isn't up today it's down.  Mccain counties are up big through EVing.  Maybe Franklin is up, it's going to be too little. 

Sorry about that.

Cuyathoga - 240K


Franklin - 213K


I'm new here but don't those numbers only include mail ballots and not early in person votes, which mean the vote totals are actually higher for both counties?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 05, 2012, 01:29:11 AM
Pardon me, I don't have Franklin counties link, I only have Cuyahoga and GMU so I'm not trying to be a hack.  If you've got it post it.  Cuyahoga isn't up today it's down.  Mccain counties are up big through EVing.  Maybe Franklin is up, it's going to be too little. 

Sorry about that.

Cuyathoga - 240K


Franklin - 213K


I'm new here but don't those numbers only include mail ballots and not early in person votes, which mean the vote totals are actually higher for both counties?

In Cuyathoga, its confirmed they include both. In Franklin its implied. The totals went up around 4000 today despite their being no mail. Given 2600 votes in Cuyathoga, that would seem like about the number of absentees dropped off+plus early votes.

The bigger issue is that the counties do weird things with counting absentees. Cuyathoga was at 200K on Thursday night. They seem to have used the half-day on saturday not just for the early voting, but to sort absentees that had arrived earlier. This means a lot of counties may have large backlogs of unsorted absentees.

I actually have a friend who is fairly hooked in with the Ohio GOP who says that a majority of the counties are borderline incompetent, there is no consistency of any sort, data from different periods is lumped together without any effort to keep it separate.

Take the Cuyathoga PDF. Those numbers were posted at Noon which means they don't include todays inperson numbers, but then updated after the inperson numbers, with a smaller net increase than the inperson votes cast today despite those numbers being publicly available.

All Ohio numbers should be treated as minimums, not maximums for turnout. Odds are its actually at least 5% higher than being shown online.

Also, only 55 counties are even reporting numbers to the SOS at all, which mean the State's own numbers are off.

Florida has the exact same problem.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 05, 2012, 10:07:08 AM
Since they have great demographics, I worked out the African American vote in NC.

In 2008, 51.6% of the black electorate had voted.

In 2012, 50.3% of the black electorate had voted.

Note that black registration has changed:

2008:  21.6%

2012:  22.4%

Note that black percentage of the electorate has increased by 0.7 points. 



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 05, 2012, 10:16:23 AM
Iowa Early:

Total Returned: 640,248
Democrats: 270,796 (42.3%)
Republicans: 205,697 (32.1%)
Other: 163,755 (25.6%)

Democratic Margin of 65,099

33.1% of registered voters have already voted.
43.6% of registered Democrats have already voted
32.8% of registered Republicans have already voted.
23.8% of registered others have voted

Turnout is currently 41.5% of the total 2008 turnout.

I know Republicans turn out in greater numbers on election day but they have a pretty large hole to dig out of. Conventional wisdom was they had to hold Dems to under a 60,000 early vote lead and that's not happening. Advantage Democrats.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 05, 2012, 10:17:23 AM

43.6% of registered Democrats have already voted
32.8% of registered Republicans have already voted.

!!!

What's the comparison to other years? That's pretty awful on the surface.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 05, 2012, 10:22:52 AM
Since they have great demographics, I worked out the African American vote in NC.

In 2008, 51.6% of the black electorate had voted.

In 2012, 50.3% of the black electorate had voted.

Note that black registration has changed:

2008:  21.6%

2012:  22.4%



To nitpick a bit the last update has the Black turnout up to 50.5%

ftp://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/enrs/absentee11xx06xx2012_Stats.pdf

Total African American turnout is up 50,000 compared to the same time in 2008.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 05, 2012, 10:30:30 AM
ME is now showing gains of R percentages over 2008:

2008

Dem
   41.1%
Rep
   27.7%
No/Oth
   31.2%

2012

Party Reg    
Dem    40.2%
Rep    29.1%
Green    2.7%
None    28.0%

This is noteworthy only because it one of the few states where this wasn't happening. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 05, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
IA 2008 final:

Party 
Dem 46.9%
Rep 28.9%
No/Oth 24.2%

IA Today:

Dem 42.3%
Rep 32.1%
None/Oth 25.6%

I think D's might have dropped 0.1 points.

There was speculation about a massive D surge at the end, but, so far, there have been slight gains or holds by the R's.

It does not include satellite sites, from what I can tell.   


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Cliffy on November 05, 2012, 11:04:47 AM
Believe Bush was down 7% in 04 EV and lost independents.  It would appear Romney will win independents, feel real good about this one.

IA 2008 final:

Party 
Dem 46.9%
Rep 28.9%
No/Oth 24.2%

IA Today:

Dem 42.3%
Rep 32.1%
None/Oth 25.6%

I think D's might have dropped 0.1 points.

There was speculation about a massive D surge at the end, but, so far, there have been slight gains or holds by the R's.

It does not include satellite sites, from what I can tell.   



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 05, 2012, 11:47:44 AM
Final NC EV numbers:

2012

D: 1305875 (47.7%)
R: 861132 (31.4%)
I: 565836 (20.7%)

W: 1844103 (67.3%)
B: 751344 (27.4%)
O: 143500 (5.2%)

Average age: 52


2008

D: 1355390 (51.4%)
R: 795456 (30.1%)
I: 486256 (18.4%)

W: 1823420 (69.1%)
B: 701896 (26.7%)
O: 113599 (4.3%)

Average age: 50




Not too bad for Mr. Romney. Thankfully, hellish places like Chapel Hill are casting less votes this time!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 05, 2012, 12:01:05 PM
Final NC EV numbers:

2012

W: 1844103 (67.3%)
B: 751344 (27.4%)
O: 143500 (5.2%)

2008

W: 1823420 (69.1%)
B: 701896 (26.7%)
O: 113599 (4.3%)


It's interesting that whites are up about 20,000, black + other is up 80,000. I don't expect Obama to win but I am really interested to see by what number he loses.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 05, 2012, 02:42:29 PM
Colorado:

About 70% of the vote is in.


R: 624788 (36.6%)
D: 590417 (34.6%)
I: 474437 (27.8%)




Good numbers for Mr. Romney. On top of that, there is a large reservoir of registered Republican voters in Douglas and El Paso Counties ready to soar to the polls tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 05, 2012, 02:58:47 PM
Quote
@Redistrict VA EARLY VOTE: On Fri, turnout was 68% of '08 absentees in Obama counties, 76% in McCain. Now 83.3% in Obama, 86.7% in McCain


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Holmes on November 05, 2012, 03:00:35 PM
Just R+2 in Colorado? Not bad. Guess the Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents in Denver, Boulder, Adams, Arapahoe and Jefferson counties will soar to the polls and assure Obama a glorious victory!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 05, 2012, 03:04:04 PM
Isn't +2 worse than the Republicans did in the 2010 early vote? A year in which they lost the governor and senate races?


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 05, 2012, 03:28:29 PM
Isn't +2 worse than the Republicans did in the 2010 early vote? A year in which they lost the governor and senate races?

Yes.  2010 was R+6 in the early vote.  Republicans did pick up some statewide offices and flip a chamber of the state legislature, though.  So from the data we have, D+6 early vote = 9-10 point D win statewide, R+6 early vote = effective tie statewide.  If this was the only information we had, I would go with Obama +3-4 statewide with an R+2 early vote.  Johnson is probably taking some Obama votes here, though.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 05, 2012, 03:29:48 PM
Quote
@Redistrict VA EARLY VOTE: On Fri, turnout was 68% of '08 absentees in Obama counties, 76% in McCain. Now 83.3% in Obama, 86.7% in McCain
Assuring news from a state that would make a good back-up to a bad surprise somewhere.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Dan the Roman on November 05, 2012, 06:12:52 PM

Near final Cuyathoga numbers.

2012: 249,403
2008(on Tuesday, not total processed): 252,629

Franklin Numbers

2012: 222,068
2008:207,243


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 05, 2012, 06:43:07 PM

Near final Cuyathoga numbers.

2012: 249,403
2008(on Tuesday, not total processed): 252,629

Franklin Numbers

2012: 222,068
2008:207,243

Interesting.  So EV turnout is statistically equal to 2008 after all.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 05, 2012, 07:06:18 PM


It's interesting that whites are up about 20,000, black + other is up 80,000. I don't expect Obama to win but I am really interested to see by what number he loses.

I posted it earlier:

In 2008, 51.6% of the black electorate had voted.

In 2012, 50.3% of the black electorate had voted.

Note that black registration has changed:

2008:  21.6%

2012:  22.4%

Note that black percentage of the electorate has increased by 0.7 points. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on November 05, 2012, 11:54:04 PM


It's interesting that whites are up about 20,000, black + other is up 80,000. I don't expect Obama to win but I am really interested to see by what number he loses.

I posted it earlier:

In 2008, 51.6% of the black electorate had voted.

In 2012, 50.3% of the black electorate had voted.

Note that black registration has changed:

2008:  21.6%

2012:  22.4%

Note that black percentage of the electorate has increased by 0.7 points. 

That is an utterly meaningless statistic, JJ. In terms of both % of early voters and raw numbers of EV, non-white voter share is up.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 05, 2012, 11:59:08 PM


That is an utterly meaningless statistic, JJ. In terms of both % of early voters and raw numbers of EV, non-white voter share is up.


As I, and others, have noted repeatedly on this thread.  I did want to note, however, that this was do to increased registration, and that the % of Black turnout has dropped. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Badger on November 06, 2012, 12:13:05 AM


That is an utterly meaningless statistic, JJ. In terms of both % of early voters and raw numbers of EV, non-white voter share is up.


As I, and others, have noted repeatedly on this thread.  I did want to note, however, that this was do to increased registration, and that the % of Black turnout has dropped. 


Your posting an utterly meaningless statistic is duly noted.

The non-white share of EV is up from 2008. Probably not enough for Obama to carry NC, but that is still the relevent statistic here.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 12:18:46 AM


That is an utterly meaningless statistic, JJ. In terms of both % of early voters and raw numbers of EV, non-white voter share is up.


As I, and others, have noted repeatedly on this thread.  I did want to note, however, that this was do to increased registration, and that the % of Black turnout has dropped. 


Your posting an utterly meaningless statistic is duly noted.

The non-white share of EV is up from 2008. Probably not enough for Obama to carry NC, but that is still the relevent statistic here.

Not really.  Registration increased; turnout increased at a lower rate. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 01:02:45 AM
McDonald made a very good point here:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/democrats-leaving-mail-ba_b_2069037.html

McDonald had talked about the returned ballots and expected a D increase at the end.  I think he makes a valid point:

Quote
It is not out of the question that a person with a mail ballot sitting on the counter may think of themselves as a voter even if they have not filled out the ballot. If so, when surveyed they may respond in the affirmative that they have voted even if they have not. The polling within these states may thus favor Romney slightly more than we may think.

That is the point I have been making about IA. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: jimrtex on November 06, 2012, 02:26:42 AM
Does anybody know how Arizona & Texas is doing with early voting?  I'd assume it has a good turnout for the GOP in both states.
In the 15 counties with the most registered voters, early voting turnout is down 4.7%.

Harris +3.2%
Dallas -12.9%
Tarrant -10.3%
Bexar -7.3%
Travis -21.2%
Collin +0.9%
El Paso -15.0%
Denton -2.3%
Fort Bend +3.1%
Hidalgo +17.7%
Montgomery +17.6%
Williamson -7.0%
Nueces -9.8%
Galveston +8.6%
Cameron +7.4%

Given population growth, it could be even more of a drop off.  In 2008, There was an +8% Obama differential in early voting in Travis, +10% in Dallas, +9% in Harris.  

There are a lot of differences between counties in the share of the vote that is early or not.  In 2000, Harris was at 25%, while most counties were around 40%.  By 2004, Harris was at 41%, but other counties were going past 50%.  In 2008, Harris County hit 62%, but other counties were close to 70%.  So while it was up slightly in Harris County, it was probably still catching up with other counties (early voting between 2004 and 2008 was up 65%, so a 3% increase from 2008 to 2012 was just consolidating the gain).

Total turnout in Galveston was down from 2004 to 2008 because of Ike, so the increase this year was related to total turnout.  Many of the other counties with increases were under 70% early voting in 2008, so they were probably catching up.   Around 75% may be saturation.

As more persons early vote, there are fewer voting on election day - and I suspect they aren't at the point where they are pulling workers and machines out of polling places.   In my case, it is easier to get to the early voting location than my regular polling place, and I have the convenience of picking when I vote.  But the next closest early voting locations are about 3 times as far - far enough to think of it like being a trip to the doctor or dentist, but not something you would do just because you were in the car.  And early voting might not be convenient from work, or it might be not be an area the voter is familiar with.  A person who is familiar with an area say 3 miles around their home, might not be so familiar around their work location.  If they read of the early voting location near their home, they'd say, "Oh I know where that is, it's across the street from the grocery store".  A location just as near work might draw a blank stare.

Early voting in Harris County was up 18.2% the first week, 8.9% on the weekend, and down -7.3% on the second week.  First week (Monday through Friday) voting hours are 8-4:30; the weekend was 7-7 on Saturday and 1-6 on Sunday; and the second week 7-7.

In 2008, hourly voting rates were: 1st week 6120, weekend 6033, and 2nd week 5626.
In 2012, hourly voting rates were: 1st week 5178, weekend 5542, and 2nd week 6068.

So there was more balancing of voters, so some may have learned that the lines were shorter the first week.  But it could also indicate a shift toward the Republicans, who are more likely to be able to vote during working hours.  I found the votes cast per early voting location in 2012, but haven't been able to locate any 2008 numbers.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 06, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
Sorry for the confusion J.J., I meant by what number he loses the state in the real election. These data don't really show anything for that.




It's interesting that whites are up about 20,000, black + other is up 80,000. I don't expect Obama to win but I am really interested to see by what number he loses.

I posted it earlier:

In 2008, 51.6% of the black electorate had voted.

In 2012, 50.3% of the black electorate had voted.

Note that black registration has changed:

2008:  21.6%

2012:  22.4%

Note that black percentage of the electorate has increased by 0.7 points. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Sorry for the confusion J.J., I meant by what number he loses the state in the real election. These data don't really show anything for that.


I think it does tell us something.  The group that is sitting out this election is primarily white Democrats, at least in NC. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Adam Griffin on November 06, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
Quote
Early voting in Georgia concluded on Friday. The most surprising number: Without an overt campaign in this state on behalf of President Barack Obama, African-American turnout for early voting matched the 2008 rate, at 34 percent of all advanced ballots cast./quote]

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/05/black-voters-cast-more-than-one-third-of-1-9-million-early-georgia-ballots/ (http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/05/black-voters-cast-more-than-one-third-of-1-9-million-early-georgia-ballots/)

2008 Early Vote:

White: 60.4%
Black: 34.9%
Other: 4.7%

2012 Early Vote:

White: 59.0%
Black: 33.7%
Other: 7.3%


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 06, 2012, 09:39:07 AM
Nearly Final Iowa Early Votes.

Total: 673,124

Dem: 281,966 (41.9%)
Rep: 215,439 (32.0%)
Other: 175,719(26.1%)

I believe more absentees could come in today. Good numbers for the president IMHO. Of course the margins will narrow but it will be tough for republicans to make up a 66,000+ vote deficit.



Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 09:45:24 AM
Nearly Final Iowa Early Votes.

Total: 673,124

Dem: 281,966 (41.9%)
Rep: 215,439 (32.0%)
Other: 175,719(26.1%)

I believe more absentees could come in today. Good numbers for the president IMHO. Of course the margins will narrow but it will be tough for republicans to make up a 66,000+ vote deficit.



Really bad numbers for Obama.  His early voting numbers have been cut by 8.1 points from 2008, and the trend is continuing to show a drop.  The Democrats were expected to surge.  They have not. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 06, 2012, 09:55:57 AM
Nearly Final Iowa Early Votes.

Total: 673,124

Dem: 281,966 (41.9%)
Rep: 215,439 (32.0%)
Other: 175,719(26.1%)

I believe more absentees could come in today. Good numbers for the president IMHO. Of course the margins will narrow but it will be tough for republicans to make up a 66,000+ vote deficit.



Really bad numbers for Obama.  His early voting numbers have been cut by 8.1 points from 2008, and the trend is continuing to show a drop.  The Democrats were expected to surge.  They have not. 

You seem fixated on the percentages while ignoring the raw vote totals. Total early vote turnout up across the board, since voter registration is about equal it only makes sense that the higher the total turnout the more it will resemble the electorate as a whole.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 06, 2012, 10:03:47 AM
Nearly Final Iowa Early Votes.

Total: 673,124

Dem: 281,966 (41.9%)
Rep: 215,439 (32.0%)
Other: 175,719(26.1%)

I believe more absentees could come in today. Good numbers for the president IMHO. Of course the margins will narrow but it will be tough for republicans to make up a 66,000+ vote deficit.



Really bad numbers for Obama.  His early voting numbers have been cut by 8.1 points from 2008, and the trend is continuing to show a drop.  The Democrats were expected to surge.  They have not. 

You seem fixated on the percentages while ignoring the raw vote totals. Total early vote turnout up across the board, since voter registration is about equal it only makes sense that the higher the total turnout the more it will resemble the electorate as a whole.

You make an assumption that turnout will look like 2008 on election day; I don't. 


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Minnesota Mike on November 06, 2012, 10:09:04 AM


You make an assumption that turnout will look like 2008 on election day; I don't. 

This is true. guess we will know who was right in about 12 hours.


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on November 06, 2012, 10:10:03 AM

Near final Cuyathoga numbers.

2012: 249,403
2008(on Tuesday, not total processed): 252,629

Franklin Numbers

2012: 222,068
2008:207,243

Glorious News!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on November 06, 2012, 10:20:39 AM
Colorado final numbers:


D: 642834 (34.3%)
R: 675797 (36.1%)
I: 534012 (28.5%)


The Republicans have successfully repelled the Democratic party. Today they will call in the reinforcements!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on November 06, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Colorado final numbers:


D: 642834 (34.3%)
R: 675797 (36.1%)
I: 534012 (28.5%)


The Republicans have successfully repelled the Democratic party. Today they will call in the reinforcements!


Haha, this is awful news for Republicans, early vote in 2010 was R+6 and Repubilcans still lost. Obama will win by +3!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 07, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
Wow.

Colorado final numbers:


D: 642834 (34.3%)
R: 675797 (36.1%)
I: 534012 (28.5%)


The Republicans have successfully repelled the Democratic party. Today they will call in the reinforcements!


Title: Re: The Official Absentee & Early Voting Reports Thread
Post by: J. J. on November 07, 2012, 08:09:50 PM


You make an assumption that turnout will look like 2008 on election day; I don't. 

This is true. guess we will know who was right in about 12 hours.

It wasn't but it wasn't enough to flip the state.  :(