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Title: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: retromike22 on August 25, 2012, 09:47:21 PM
I know, it's really early. But let's speculate. In 2008 and 2012, the selection seemed to be based more on increasing the party's chance of success in that state/region than just choosing a random city. So I think they'll continue that trend, that conventions should be cities in states where they believe their parties could improve in. Here are some ideas:

2016 DNC: Phoenix, Indianapolis, Miami
2016 RNC: Columbus, Detroit

2020 DNC: Atlanta, St. Louis
2020 RNC: Pittsburgh, Milwaukee

2024 DNC: Houston, San Antonio
2024 RNC: Chicago, Philadelphia


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Frodo on August 25, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
2016 DNC: Phoenix, AZ
2016 RNC: Milwaukee, WI or Detroit, MI

2020 DNC: Atlanta, GA
2020 RNC: St. Louis, MO

2024 DNC: Dallas or Houston, TX
2024 RNC: Louisville, KY



Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Indy Texas on August 26, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
2016
DNC: Phoenix
RNC: Nashville

2020
DNC: Atlanta
RNC: Pittsburgh

2024
DNC: Dallas
RNC: Salt Lake City


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: TNF on August 26, 2012, 06:32:35 AM
2016
Democratic National Convention: Atlanta, Georgia
Republican National Convention: Milwaukee, Wisconsin

2020
Democratic National Convention: Miami, Florida
Republican National Convention: Indianapolis, Indiana

2024
Democratic National Convention: San Antonio, Texas
Republican National Convention: Cleveland, Ohio


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Talleyrand on August 26, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
2016
Democratic National Convention: Atlanta, Georgia
Republican National Convention: Milwaukee, Wisconsin

2020
Democratic National Convention: Miami, Florida
Republican National Convention: Virginia Beach, Virginia

2024
Democratic National Convention: Dallas, Texas
Republican National Convention: Phoenix, Arizona


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: NY Jew on August 26, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
my suggestions

2016 DNC: NOT New York
2016 RNC: NOT New York

2020 DNC: NOT New York
2020 RNC: NOT New York

2024 DNC: NOT New York
2024 RNC: NOT New York


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 26, 2012, 06:21:34 PM
Why Phoenix for the Dems?  Wouldn't the existence of the Arizona immigration law make such a choice controversial?


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Talleyrand on August 26, 2012, 06:45:05 PM
Why should Indianapolis host a GOP convention? Indiana is a solidly Republican state except in unusual cases like 2008, when Obama's ground game and months long state campaign combined with the political environment at the time gave him a narrow victory. The state reverted back to norm in 2010 and Obama isn't even bothering to contest it this time around. Of all the results in the 2008 presidential election, Indiana was clearly a glaring outlier. I don't see the point of hosting it there.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: 5280 on August 26, 2012, 07:11:39 PM
2016 RNC: Phoenix, Indianapolis
2016 DNC: Lexington, Nashville

2020 RNC: Portland, St. Louis
2020 DNC: Los Angeles, Dallas

2024 RNC: Las Vegas, Boise
2024 DNC: Houston, Omaha


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: heatmaster on August 29, 2012, 06:27:13 AM
2028 DNC: Los Angeles
2028 RNC: New York City

2032 DNC: New York City
2032 RNC: Phoenix

2036 DNC: St. Louis
2036:RNC: Los Angeles


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Yelnoc on August 29, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
my suggestions

2016 DNC: NOT New York
2016 RNC: NOT New York

2020 DNC: NOT New York
2020 RNC: NOT New York

2024 DNC: NOT New York
2024 RNC: NOT New York
New York City is a perfect location for the politicians to rub elbows with their masters.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 29, 2012, 05:23:13 PM
2016 DNC Reno, NV
         RNC Manchester, NH

2020  DNC Alberquerque, NM
          RNC Covington, OH

2024 DNC  Seattle, WA
         RNC   Pittsburgh, PA


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Ogre Mage on August 29, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Why Phoenix for the Dems?  Wouldn't the existence of the Arizona immigration law make such a choice controversial?


Demographic changes in Arizona (aka Latino voters) suggest that the state is about one Presidential cycle away from becoming truly competitive. 


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 29, 2012, 08:37:51 PM
Why Phoenix for the Dems?  Wouldn't the existence of the Arizona immigration law make such a choice controversial?


Demographic changes in Arizona (aka Latino voters) suggest that the state is about one Presidential cycle away from becoming truly competitive. 

The decision for 2016 will have to be made as early as next year though, no?  As long as Jan Brewer is governor and the immigration law is in place, I would assume that any decision to hold the convention there would be controversial.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: 5280 on August 29, 2012, 08:47:10 PM
Why Phoenix for the Dems?  Wouldn't the existence of the Arizona immigration law make such a choice controversial?


Demographic changes in Arizona (aka Latino voters) suggest that the state is about one Presidential cycle away from becoming truly competitive. 
Unless the demographics reverse themselves, which could happen.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 30, 2012, 06:34:59 PM
2016
Republican: Milwaukee
Democrat: Chicago (celebrating Obama and all...)
Libertarian: Orlando


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Sasquatch on August 31, 2012, 01:58:14 AM
2016
DNC - Atlanta
RNC - St. Louis

2020
DNC - Dallas
RNC - Phoenix

2024
DNC - Seattle
RNC - Las Vegas


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on August 31, 2012, 09:26:23 AM
2016 DNC: Columbus, OH
2016 RNC: Milwaukee, WI

2020 DNC: Indianapolis, IN
2020 RNC: Philadelphia, PA

2024 DNC: Seattle, WA
2024 RNC: Chicago, IL


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on August 31, 2012, 05:15:44 PM
Some of these answere (Covington, OH and Manchester, NH) are just plain crazy.  I'd prefer an actual major city.  Maybe this:

2016
Republicans- Detroit or Chicago
Democrats- Dallas or Houston

2020
Republicans- Boston or Seattle
Democrats- New Orleans or Orlando

2024
Republicans: Cleveland or Cincinnati
Democrats: Philadelphia or San Francisco
2016 DNC: Columbus, OH
2016 RNC: Milwaukee, WI

2020 DNC: Indianapolis, IN
2020 DNC: Philadelphia, PA

2024 DNC: Seattle, WA
2024 RNC: Chicago, IL
You put DNC twice for 2020.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 31, 2012, 06:19:19 PM
I am 100% sure that the 2016 Libertarian Party convention will be in Orlando. I have no proof, just a very strong gut feeling. In four years, I hope this post is brought back up.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 08, 2012, 03:29:31 AM
Which of the cities mentioned here even have convention centers suitable for a national party convention?  I mean, you might think, say, Columbus, OH would be a good place for a convention for political reasons, but do they have a convention center suitable for fitting 5000 people into one room, that'll look good on TV?  (They may well, I genuinely don't know the answer in that particular case.)


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on September 08, 2012, 11:56:28 AM

Just noticed that :P


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Gass3268 on September 08, 2012, 01:29:39 PM
Just a heads up for those picking Milwaukee for the 2016 RNC that Milwaukee's arena is really old. The Bradley Center opened 1988. It is the oldest arena in the NBA behind Madison Square Garden and it shows. There are attempts by Senator Kohl, the Bucks owner, to try and build a new arena, but I am guessing it wouldn't be done by 2016.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on September 08, 2012, 01:48:34 PM
2016 DNC: Atlanta, GA
2016 RNC: St. Louis, MO

2020 DNC: Houston, TX
2020 RNC: Chicago, IL

2024 DNC: Phoenix, AZ
2024 RNC: Columbus, OH

The Democrats should make inroads with the SouthEast and West. The Republicans will probably continue putting them in swing states.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: progressive85 on September 08, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
I would like to see especially the Democrats choose a smaller city.  I think Charlotte was a really good choice.

My top 5 choices for Democrats' 2016 convention:
1. New Orleans, Louisiana
2. Columbus, Ohio
3. Louisville, Kentucky
4. Indianapolis, Indiana
5. Orlando, Florida

A goodood choice for the Republicans would be Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Quite honestly Im surprised that neither party has chosen New Orleans.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Earthling on September 08, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
During hurricane season?


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Earthling on September 08, 2012, 03:20:35 PM
For democrats:

Phoenix, Arizona
Houston, Texas
Atlanta, Georgia

For republicans:

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Portland, Oregon


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Skill and Chance on September 08, 2012, 04:39:35 PM
2016

Democrats: Richmond or Columbus
Republicans: Milwaukee

2020

Democrats: Atlanta or Orlando
Republicans: Pittsburgh

2024

Democrats: Orlando or Nashville (if TN starts showing VA/NC style change)
Republicans: Detroit or Phoenix


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on September 10, 2012, 02:55:14 PM
2016 DNC: Columbus, OH
2016 RNC: Milwaukee, WI

2020 DNC: San Antonio, TX
2020 RNC: Pittsburgh, PA

2024 DNC: Miami, FL
2024 RNC: Los Angeles, CA


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 14, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
The cities that are actually considering a bid for 2016:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/gaming-out-the-next-convention-cities-135583.html

Cleveland, Columbus, Dallas, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Nashville, Newark, Phoenix, and Salt Lake City

Would be amusing if Ohio hosted both parties in 2016: Dems in Cleveland and GOP in Columbus.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mr. Morden on September 15, 2012, 12:16:37 AM
And add to the above Charlotte (for the GOP this time), Philadelphia, and St. Louis:

http://www.democraticconventionwatch.com/diary/5608/gop-in-charlotte-in-2016

http://www.democraticconventionwatch.com/diary/5602/philadelphia-may-try-again-in-2016

http://www.democraticconventionwatch.com/diary/5601/st-louis-mayor-still-wants-2016-convention


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on September 15, 2012, 12:48:31 AM
I wish you people would quit sending the Republicans here in 2020 or 2024... Send them to the center of the state where they belong.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: retromike22 on November 12, 2012, 01:50:37 AM
The cities that are actually considering a bid for 2016:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/09/gaming-out-the-next-convention-cities-135583.html

Cleveland, Columbus, Dallas, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Nashville, Newark, Phoenix, and Salt Lake City

Would be amusing if Ohio hosted both parties in 2016: Dems in Cleveland and GOP in Columbus.


I say Phoenix for the Dems, Cleveland for the GOP.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 12, 2012, 02:47:08 AM
Please, please, please let a national convention be held in Sin City.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Baylor98 on December 02, 2012, 02:04:28 AM
DNC 2016: Phoenix, St. Louis, or Philadelphia
RNC 2016: Somewhere in Ohio, Phoenix, or Milwaukee


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Frodo on December 02, 2012, 02:19:03 AM
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of holding the next DNC in Atlanta....



Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on December 02, 2012, 02:54:49 AM
Democrats: San Diego
Republicans: Phoenix


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: DINGO Joe on December 02, 2012, 03:04:28 AM
Rep--Detroit
Dems--Charleston. WV


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: 5280 on December 02, 2012, 03:07:38 AM
Republicans: Phoenix
Democrats: Atlanta


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on December 03, 2012, 02:53:08 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of holding the next DNC in Atlanta....



So you want the Dems to lose Georgia in 2016? Considering how things went in 2012, I'd have thought you'd want the Dems to hold their convention in a city in a state they're going to lose anyway, such as Salt Lake City.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Benj on December 03, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of holding the next DNC in Atlanta....



So you want the Dems to lose Georgia in 2016? Considering how things went in 2012, I'd have thought you'd want the Dems to hold their convention in a city in a state they're going to lose anyway, such as Salt Lake City.

This is a weird statement. What about Denver in 2008? I don't think the location of the conventions matters very much, but surely if they have any effect, it's a positive effect.

Having a convention in a competitive state is also a pretty new phenomenon, as is the "received wisdom" that you shouldn't repeat cities.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on December 03, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
Choosing a place in a Swing State doesn't seem to have been that helpful.

2012
Republicans - Florida - LOST
Democrats . North Carolina - LOST

2008
Republicans - Minnesota - LOST
Democrats - Colorado - WON

25% success is pretty bad...


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Mehmentum on December 03, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
Choosing a place in a Swing State doesn't seem to have been that helpful.

2012
Republicans - Florida - LOST
Democrats . North Carolina - LOST

2008
Republicans - Minnesota - LOST
Democrats - Colorado - WON

25% success is pretty bad...
Not as bad as a sample size of 4.

Edit: If you flip a coin 4 times, there's only a 37.5% chance that heads and tails will come up twice.  So technically a sample size of 4 has a marginally better sucess rate than 25%.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on December 03, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
A better measure of the effect of the conventions would be how those states trended


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on December 04, 2012, 04:09:19 AM
Democrats: Phoenix. C'mon guys, it's high time you seriously put up a fight in Arizona...

Republicans: Pittsburgh. PA might not be up for grabs right now, but it's certainly worth firing up the local GOP.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: Horus on December 04, 2012, 04:56:58 AM
2016
D: Columbus
R: Denver

2020:
D: Atlanta
R: Cleveland

2024:
D: Houston
R: Philadelphia


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: pbrower2a on December 04, 2012, 05:21:24 PM
Why Phoenix for the Dems?  Wouldn't the existence of the Arizona immigration law make such a choice controversial?


Controversy works well -- when it is on one's side.


Title: Re: Where should the future DNC and RNC conventions be held?
Post by: pbrower2a on March 24, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Please, please, please let a national convention be held in Sin City.

The whores who take money from johns would have a big money-making week with the whores who have sold out to right-wing special interests if the Republicans held their convention in Las Vegas. Democrats would bring their spouses and keep their marriages intact.