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Title: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Donerail on September 15, 2012, 07:43:06 PM
This'll be an interesting one.



I'm mistaken for a pro-Obama liberal quite often (typically when this happens I just steer the discussions to the topics I'm actually liberal on).


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on September 15, 2012, 07:45:19 PM
I actually quite dislike it when people call me a "liberal," but it's somewhat understandable since the sad fact is that the vast majority of Americans don't really understand or recognize what Socialism is.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: morgieb on September 15, 2012, 07:50:39 PM
Not really, though people think I'm further left than I actually am.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on September 15, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Someone once remarked he thought I was the most atheist person in the class if that counts.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: RogueBeaver on September 15, 2012, 08:02:21 PM
IRL few people realize how conservative I really am. But I don't really fit on the Canuck political spectrum, so understandable. :P


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Modernity has failed us on September 15, 2012, 08:03:12 PM
Yes, because most kids my age think that the terms "Libertarian" and "Liberal" are synonymous


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 15, 2012, 09:18:20 PM
I've been called both a "liberal" and a "socialist" here on the forum. :P In some way, both are correct, as I hold Social-Democracy to represent the perfect equilibrium between Liberalism and Socialism.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Hash on September 15, 2012, 09:21:02 PM
Right-wingers call me a socialist, left-wingers call me a neoliberal/rightist.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Incipimus iterum on September 16, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Ive been called a Liberal Republican and a Libertarian


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Maxwell on September 16, 2012, 03:28:12 PM
Ive been mistaken for a conservative a couple of times, also more liberal.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: SPC on September 16, 2012, 05:23:39 PM
Out of context I have probably sounded like both a extreme conservative and an extreme liberal at times, depending on what the topic is. It is especially amusing when I get accused of "liking Bush" when I criticize Obama from the left (which I usually do, since such arguments have not been repeated ad nauseum by hypocrites like Sean Hannity.)


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Redalgo on September 16, 2012, 05:32:26 PM
Yes - it is the norm for my views to be misgauged by others, especially by those who have not spent much time discussing politics with me in the past.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 16, 2012, 05:56:48 PM
People often assume that the fact that I'm a Christian makes me a fundamentalist, so I guess in a way, yes.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Zioneer on September 16, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Yes; whenever I mention that I am Mormon, people always assume I'll be voting for Romney, or that I'm far-right. I'm most definitely not a conservative.

Also, whenever I mention I'm liberal, people assume I'll be voting for Obama. Lolol no. Obama is a pro-corporate stooge just as much as a moderate Republican would be, and he's continued too many neocon military strategies (though I do like that he's encouraging the military to switch to green energy).

Basically, I'm a contradiction of all most people know about Mormons; an uber-leftist (though not quite socialist... yet) Mormon.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Supersonic on September 16, 2012, 06:44:21 PM
Yes, I've had people come up to me and say I should be in the Labour Party.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: © tweed on September 16, 2012, 06:59:45 PM
was mistaken for a Paulite when I first got to Cornell


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 16, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
was mistaken for a Paulite when I first got to Cornell

Do elaborate.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: © tweed on September 16, 2012, 07:04:52 PM
when I first arrived at Cornell in 2008 we had this book discussion crap as part of orientation.  the book was Lincoln at Gettysburg, which I tried to read but couldn't, or at least chose not to.  thankfully the group discussion branched off into manners of more general electoral-politics, the details of which I don't remember, but I do remember a few kids coming up to me after and asking me if I was a Ron Paul supporter.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on September 16, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
Only with my stupid friends who hardly know the difference between conservatives and liberals anyway.

It's much more likely that my friends are mistaken about their own ideologies. I know quite a few people who vote NDP even though they're obviously right-wing.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: anvi on September 16, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
It happens more and more often as time goes by, both on this forum and in other places IRL.  But I don't blame people for that, I'm fairly confused about it myself.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 16, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
I get confused for a Republican quite often.  It's very disappointing.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on September 16, 2012, 09:43:19 PM
I got mistaken for a moderate by a democrat. Also got mistaken for being part of the coffee party too. Same democrat. She even thought at points I'm a libertarian. Even inspite of my telling her of my pro-life/pro-traditional marriage views.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Free Palestine on September 16, 2012, 09:46:50 PM
A lot of people (mostly here) still think I'm a libertarian.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on September 16, 2012, 10:01:38 PM
Does it count that I thought Hillary Clinton was a conservative in '08? No? Well, at least I increased my post count.

And Morgan, nobody knows what you are anymore.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 16, 2012, 10:46:34 PM

I know what he is, but I have no desire to accumulate death points, so I'll have to stay quiet.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Miles on September 17, 2012, 12:34:07 AM
On some of the forum community election maps, I'll be grouped in withe the Republicans sometimes.

Conversely, when I'm with my extended family (an uber-Republican lot, many of which subscribe to birtherism), I sound like I'm a radical liberal when compared to them.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: 後援会 on September 17, 2012, 03:53:27 AM
Sometimes. In real life, some people are pretty surprised when I reveal that I'm a staunch Republican - including some of the ones I talk about political issues with.

People from my homeland also generally pidgeonhole me as a staunch liberal, but I tend to get the opposite reaction from a lot of urban, coastal Americans. As this forum shows.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: opebo on September 17, 2012, 10:01:05 AM
Yes, nearly everyone does this in my case.  I'm an odd duck, and all sides dislike my plumage.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: TNF on September 17, 2012, 12:02:18 PM
I've been confused for a conservative in that I don't particularly care for identity politics and am pretty nationalistic when it comes to foreign policy. A lot of people mistake me for a hawk.

But then they hear me talk about economic issues and accuse me of being a communist. I'm not. I'm a social democrat and I can't stand just about anyone in politics when it comes to economic issues, where 95% of politicians and other elected officials are completely full of sh**t.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on September 17, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
I got mistaken for a moderate by a democrat. Also got mistaken for being part of the coffee party too. Same democrat. She even thought at points I'm a libertarian. Even inspite of my telling her of my pro-life/pro-traditional marriage views.

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Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Dereich on September 17, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I get mistaken for a Democrat quite a bit. I've always liked a good debate and I also tend to be more centrist then, say, people in my church group.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Lasitten on September 17, 2012, 01:18:51 PM
Usually people mistakenly think I'm a green.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on September 20, 2012, 08:30:17 PM
I don't know.  I could see how I might, considering some of my views and statements on here.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on September 22, 2012, 01:03:56 AM
Democrats always think I'm a conservative, and Republicans always think I'm liberal or just plain ideologically weird.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: General White on October 08, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
Im mastaken by basically everyone i know for a Hard-Core Conservative. Most people that know me say im a Moderate Conservative.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: DC Al Fine on October 11, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
I've been called a neo-con by a liberal acquaintance, which is weird because my foreign policy is borderline isolationist and I'm a libertarian/paleo-con.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: DC Al Fine on October 11, 2012, 03:15:01 PM
Yes, nearly everyone does this in my case.  I'm an odd duck, and all sides dislike my plumage.

What do you call yourself Opebo?


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on October 11, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Most people don't suspect a socialist... so naturally, I'm mistaken for a liberal most of the time. I've been mistaken for a conservative or libertarian before, when criticizing Obama's bailouts or talking about gun rights but not really often.

I generally just stick with "left-leaning" or something in public, just because "socialist" has such negative connotations among Americans.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: ShamDam on October 12, 2012, 11:21:35 PM
Criticizing Obama from the left has definitely confused people into believing I must be a Republican for "not liking Obama"


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on October 13, 2012, 06:59:52 AM
I'm often criticized for being conservative (to bug me) because I have some culturally conservative traits.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Leftbehind on October 13, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
People have confused me for a liberal when we've been discussing socially liberal topics - ie the government's plans to allow gay marriage.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Vosem on October 13, 2012, 06:20:23 PM
I'm a brown secular first-generation native-born Jew from New York. Whaddaya think?

Additionally, for whatever reason people frequently choose extremely odd topics to disagree with me on, so I'm left defending Joe Biden in front of the class or s**t, and these things frequently give the wrong impression.

EDIT: And on top of that I have an extremely unusual combination of views, so people are left with the impression I'm a hardcore Democrat when abortion (for instance) is discussed.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: courts on October 13, 2012, 07:50:25 PM
I'm a brown secular first-generation native-born Jew from New York. Whaddaya think?

Additionally, for whatever reason people frequently choose extremely odd topics to disagree with me on, so I'm left defending Joe Biden in front of the class or s**t, and these things frequently give the wrong impression.

EDIT: And on top of that I have an extremely unusual combination of views, so people are left with the impression I'm a hardcore Democrat when abortion (for instance) is discussed.
there's nothing 'unusual' about your views, you're a garden variety neocon. if you had been born 20 years earlier and stayed more or less the same as now you might have grown up to be the next krauthammer.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on October 13, 2012, 08:18:24 PM
A lot of people think I still harbor Republican/libertarian tendencies...but there's also the Socialist angle. AND the forum-exclusive bullshet issues with the "moderates". That's probably the one that irritates me the most...the somehow inbetween stage that's just nonsensical.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on October 19, 2012, 01:56:15 AM
About 15 years ago, some Internet peeps thought I was conservative because I was economically liberal. (I think it was when I railed against so-called "free trade.")


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Platypus on October 19, 2012, 09:47:23 AM
People often assume I'm far more left-wing than I actually am, but I rarely am assumed to be conservative.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: CountryRoads on October 19, 2012, 05:24:02 PM
Some people mistake me for a Libertarian due to my economic views being pretty Libertarian (but i'm not on social, or foreign policy). 


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Yelnoc on October 19, 2012, 06:46:42 PM
People in real life think I'm a "liberal," people on alternatehistory.com probably think I'm a "conservative," people on The Atlas seem to think I am a "moderate," while the guys in chat think I'm a "socialist."

Hell if I know what I am.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Donerail on October 19, 2012, 07:12:32 PM
Me: Something that slams Obama and Romney
Classmate: So wait, if you're not a Democrat and not a Republican, then what are you?
Me: A libertarian.
Classmate: Is that a real thing, or did you make it up?


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 19, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
I can't remember anyone thinking I wasn't what you would call liberal in this country.  Guess it's my personality. 


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: RI on October 19, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
When I tell people I'm studying economics or am a practicing Catholic, they generally think I'm a conservative. When I tell people I support Obama, they often think I'm just another left-libertarian college kid.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Napoleon on October 20, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
People often assume that the fact that I'm a Christian makes me a fundamentalist, so I guess in a way, yes.

If I were to stereotype you politically, without knowing your views, I would base my assumption on your liking for county music.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Modernity has failed us on October 20, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
People often assume that the fact that I'm a Christian makes me a fundamentalist, so I guess in a way, yes.

If I were to stereotype you politically, without knowing your views, I would base my assumption on your liking for county music.

Yep, basically.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2012, 01:03:55 PM
People often assume that the fact that I'm a Christian makes me a fundamentalist, so I guess in a way, yes.

If I were to stereotype you politically, without knowing your views, I would base my assumption on your liking for county music.

Haha. :P


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: General White on November 16, 2012, 01:33:13 AM
Everyone says that im a Extreme Conservative because of my Far-Right Views on Social issues.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: k-onmmunist on November 16, 2012, 08:51:01 AM
yeah. i was discussing the european union with someone and based on my position with that, they assumed i must be a tory.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Oak Hills on November 16, 2012, 08:14:17 PM
One time a couple of years ago I was asked by a classmate if I liked Obama.  When I said I didn't, he asked me, "So you're more conservative?"  I responded with, "I'm more liberal.", and he seemed to think that was a little weird.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Zioneer on November 17, 2012, 12:45:33 AM
One time a couple of years ago I was asked by a classmate if I liked Obama.  When I said I didn't, he asked me, "So you're more conservative?"  I responded with, "I'm more liberal.", and he seemed to think that was a little weird.

Happens a lot with me too. I get a kick out of explaining that no, Obama is too conservative for me, not too liberal.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: nolesfan2011 on November 20, 2012, 08:46:29 PM
absolutely, mostly by bot party line dogmatic people but yea I self id as a progressive populist, and I've been called a conservative, a tea partier, a libertarian, a raving liberal, and a socialist.. the most extreme terms are probably trolling, but still.. people have issues getting a finger on my views.. I'm not a straight line Dem, but I'm by no means conservative or ultra liberal.

I'm about like a progressive 60s Democrat

This'll be an interesting one.



I'm mistaken for a pro-Obama liberal quite often (typically when this happens I just steer the discussions to the topics I'm actually liberal on).


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 20, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
I get mistaken for a liberal all the time. I think it's some combination of living in a super-liberal area, being a grad student, and that I'll argue with conservatives as much as I argue with liberals. I don't think I ever really get mistaken for a far-left guy though.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Supersonic on December 27, 2012, 03:18:01 PM
Many conservative libertarians have said I belong in the Labour Party for my authoritarian and neo-con views. Yeah.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 27, 2012, 03:36:27 PM
Many conservative libertarians have said I belong in the Labour Party for my authoritarian and neo-con views. Yeah.

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Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on December 27, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I've been mistaken for a conservative, even a tea-partier on three occasions (God knows how :P ).


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on December 28, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Yes, liberal who have a problem with refugees coming in across the border.


Title: Re: Have you ever been mistaken for another ideology?
Post by: hopper on December 29, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
My Dad called me a Democrat once. I do agree with the Democrats on a few(maybe several  social issues) but economically I don't agree with the Democratic base. With some of the Southern Blue Dogs I can agree with them on some economic things though but thats not what passes for the Dem base these days. I call myself a Northeast Republican.