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Title: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Dancing with Myself on September 25, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
Cleveland at Baltimore (Thursday Night)

New England at Buffalo
Minnesota at Detroit
Carolina at Atlanta
San Francisco at NY Jets
San Diego at Kansas City
Tennessee at Houston
Seattle at St. Louis
Miami at Arizona
Oakland at Denver
Cincinnati at Jacksonville
New Orleans at Green Bay
Washington at Tampa Bay

NY Giants at Philadelphia (Sunday Night)

Chicago at Dallas (Monday Night)


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Dancing with Myself on September 25, 2012, 06:18:35 PM
Week 3 Standings:

Deadomn (3-0) Chicago    San Fran            Atlanta
Jbach  (3-0)   Detroit         San Fran            Buffalo
Napoleon (3-0) Chicago   Cincinnati           Buffalo
nclib  (3-0)  Baltimore       Cincinnati           Chicago
Patrick (3-0)  Philly          NY Giants             Dallas
Thomas (3-0)   Chicago    NY Giants            Dallas
Smash  (2-1)   Detroit     San Diego            New Orleans
tmthoru (2-1)  Chicago    Houston              San Fransisco
fezzy  (2-0)   Detroit         Cincinnati
Bushie (1-2)  Detroit       New Orleans        Pittsburgh
MiamiU  (1-2)  Chicago     New England      Pittsburgh
Pit  (1-2)    Houston       New Orleans         Pittsburgh
Xahar (1-2)    Detroit     New England         Pittsburgh
Grumps  (0-3)  Buffalo     Oakland               San Fransisco
tb78 (un)  (0-3) Carolina    New England    San Fransisco
2ORP12  (0-1)  Carolina


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Dancing with Myself on September 25, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
Baltimore Ravens

Hope my jinx will end.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on September 25, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
Another tough week, even if you don't account for the fact that the refs make everything even more unpredictable.

Ravens


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 25, 2012, 06:34:26 PM
Patsies


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 25, 2012, 08:18:50 PM
     Baltimore Ravens. Even the replacement refs shouldn't be able to screw this one up.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 25, 2012, 09:47:53 PM
Arizona Cardinals


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 25, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
Falcons


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 25, 2012, 11:49:47 PM
Niners.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: dead0man on September 26, 2012, 06:34:20 AM
Ravens


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2012, 09:53:03 AM

lol


I'll take Houston


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Spanish Moss on September 26, 2012, 11:08:52 AM
NY Giants


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 26, 2012, 05:57:03 PM

Niners -4 looks like free money; I guess beware of things that look too easy.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 26, 2012, 06:33:13 PM

     Niners are the clear favorites over the Jets, but we have easier games in our schedule and I'm still waiting. I guess schedule familiarity is an advantage of following the team.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2012, 06:45:48 PM

do you ever bet against the Jets?


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
Giants +2 seems like a surer bet to me.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on September 26, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
Betting against the Jets is, IMO, unwise. They have the ability to defeat any team in the league, and, unfortunately, lose against any team in the league. That's just how it is. It doesn't even matter much if the game is at home or on the road for the Jets.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2012, 06:57:07 PM
Betting against the Jets is, IMO, unwise. They have the ability to defeat any team in the league, and, unfortunately, lose against any team in the league. That's just how it is. It doesn't even matter much if the game is at home or on the road for the Jets.

you're quoting Francesa?


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on September 26, 2012, 07:00:08 PM
I don't listen to fatty. :P


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 26, 2012, 07:08:56 PM

I've done it in the past.  Basically rationalize it that I'll be happy either way.  The worst is when you bet on them and they completely no show. Or even better when you travel to freezing Pittsburgh or Indy, gamble on them and they also lose a.k.a. the Trifecta of suck.

Re: Gints/Eagles. strange things tend to happen in those games. I think Giants are the better team but I can see punt run backs and other weird things happening.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 26, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Betting against the Jets is, IMO, unwise. They have the ability to defeat any team in the league, and, unfortunately, lose against any team in the league. That's just how it is. It doesn't even matter much if the game is at home or on the road for the Jets.

Law of averages man. Chances are better that Sanchez plays like crap, makes mistakes and they can't score against a very good Niners defense. A Revis less defense is also average and flawed.  I think with Darrelle out they have to take more chances and try to find anything resembling a pass rush and force some mistakes. Alex Smith is pretty good about avoiding those though. I'd personally think chances that Niners cover is probably 75-80%.  I consider that a good 'investment'.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on September 26, 2012, 07:23:15 PM
I expect them to lose this one.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 26, 2012, 07:30:08 PM

Yep, I'm not going to gamble against them.  I want to fully root for a nice surprise.  I'll likely be up in Boston watching the game, so I really will want them to pull it out.

I'll be at Citi tomorrow to see if RA Dickie can pull out a 20th victory.   Yes, I am that desperate for positive and meaningful things from my teams.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Smash255 on September 26, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Niners, anyone betting the Jets this weekend is better off lighting dollar bills on fire.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 27, 2012, 10:39:39 AM
guys, SF just lost by 2 scores to Minnesota and hasn't been home in two weeks.  they practiced in Ohio.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 27, 2012, 10:43:32 AM
guys, SF just lost by 2 scores to Minnesota and hasn't been home in two weeks.  they practiced in Ohio.

That's why I went Patsies......short jaunt down to Buffalo to play a crappy team. 


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Thomas D on September 27, 2012, 04:50:17 PM
New England


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 27, 2012, 04:58:41 PM
Buffalo has played very very very well the last 2 weeks.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: nclib on September 30, 2012, 08:13:52 AM
Houston


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Cincinnatus on September 30, 2012, 10:51:19 AM
Could try Seattle, but I'll go with Houston.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 30, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
Houston


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 30, 2012, 01:49:23 PM
It's tough to put into words how bad Mark Sanchez is.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 30, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
It's tough to put into words how bad Mark Sanchez is.

the play calling was horrible early in the game (Tebow sh**t and a pass on 3rd and 1) but yeah the last few possessions have been hard to watch.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 30, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
It's tough to put into words how bad Mark Sanchez is.

the play calling was horrible early in the game (Tebow sh**t and a pass on 3rd and 1) but yeah the last few possessions have been hard to watch.

Hopefully Tannenbaum gets fired before the draft and we can pick up a new QB.  I also agree that Sparano is not good but it doesnt really matter when you can't execute the simplest plays.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 30, 2012, 02:13:24 PM
Rex/Tanny/Sanchez probably get one more year after this,  the defense is nearing its expiration date.  lots of old players and Revis' last year under contract.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 30, 2012, 02:16:35 PM
I'd probably give Rex another year before Tannenbaum.  Our draft picks under Mr T have not been good. 1st rd pick Kyle Wilson is atrocious.

And what the hell just happened with Holmes.  Ugh. Fold up the tents....


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 30, 2012, 02:17:58 PM
looks like another busted ACL


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on September 30, 2012, 02:18:37 PM
This team sucks.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on September 30, 2012, 02:21:44 PM
Hopefully some of you out there took the gambling advice.  Free money...

I'd rather see McElroy out there now. 


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on September 30, 2012, 02:39:25 PM
They turned off the Jets game here to go to Atlanta/Carolina.  lulz@jets


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 03:53:15 PM
Same here, Gramps!


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: © tweed on September 30, 2012, 05:30:19 PM
Dolphins beating Arizona? so weird


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 30, 2012, 06:01:01 PM
The Tebow chants remind me of 49ers fans chanting "we want Carr" back in 2010.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on September 30, 2012, 06:40:30 PM

Wowza!! That was close!!


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 30, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
     Jets really need to clean house. Rex Ryan is almost Singletary bad.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on October 01, 2012, 08:19:22 PM
     Jets really need to clean house. Rex Ryan is almost Singletary bad.

How many games would Niners win without Crabtree, Manningham, Davis, and Willis?


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 01, 2012, 10:12:12 PM
     Jets really need to clean house. Rex Ryan is almost Singletary bad.

How many games would Niners win without Crabtree, Manningham, Davis, and Willis?

     Point taken, but how many games would we lose 34-0? That's a special kind of failure, and something like that starts with the coach.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on October 01, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
     Jets really need to clean house. Rex Ryan is almost Singletary bad.

How many games would Niners win without Crabtree, Manningham, Davis, and Willis?

     Point taken, but how many games would we lose 34-0? That's a special kind of failure, and something like that starts with the coach.

Eh, Rex isnt the one throwing INT's, fumbling the football, arm tackling or even throwing the football directly to the opposition because you are supposedly hurt, 2x....TBS, There is no doubt that Ryan got an overblown reputation as an elite coach thanks to some luck and a few key wins.   The depth on this team was never good and injuries have sunk what was already a mediocre team.

One thing I am surprised about is how bad the defense has looked. I thought the Jets were going to be good up front and improve in secondary.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on October 01, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Our defense hasn't been any good since 2010, except our cornerbacks and Po'uha was decent for a while.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: patrick1 on October 01, 2012, 10:36:56 PM
Our defense hasn't been any good since 2010, except our cornerbacks and Po'uha was decent for a while.

Yes, our LB's got old and slow. Wanted to jump through the screen and punch 'Goose' when he kept saying that Bart Scott hasnt lost a step.

Pouha and Devito never make an impact play. Used to be good at stopping up the run but well...
We also havent had a pass rush since John Abraham left... I could rant forever but Ill just stop.

Time to rebuild.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Napoleon on October 01, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Scott may have lost a step but he's a lot better than 2011 Scott and can make some plays...Scott's doing better than Harris, really.


Title: Re: NFL Pick a Winner Game Week 4
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 01, 2012, 10:49:09 PM
     Jets really need to clean house. Rex Ryan is almost Singletary bad.

How many games would Niners win without Crabtree, Manningham, Davis, and Willis?

     Point taken, but how many games would we lose 34-0? That's a special kind of failure, and something like that starts with the coach.

Eh, Rex isnt the one throwing INT's, fumbling the football, arm tackling or even throwing the football directly to the opposition because you are supposedly hurt, 2x....TBS, There is no doubt that Ryan got an overblown reputation as an elite coach thanks to some luck and a few key wins.   The depth on this team was never good and injuries have sunk what was already a mediocre team.

One thing I am surprised about is how bad the defense has looked. I thought the Jets were going to be good up front and improve in secondary.

     True, but simple bad execution shouldn't wind up in a complete shutdown. A result that bad is usually the result of systemic difficulties.