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Title: Massachusetts
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on October 02, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
Massachusetts is frequently labeled as the most Democratic state in the union. It voted for Democrat for President in all but two (1980, 1984) elections from 1960, being the only state that supported McGovern in 1972. Starting with Clinton in 1992, all counties were going Democratic.

Until recently, Massachusetts had all-Democratic congressional delegation and it's possible will have again starting next January.

On the other hand, it seems Massachusetts is fond with a certain kind of "fiscally conservative, socially moderate" Republicans, such as Bill Weld, Paul Cellucci, Charlie Baker and Scott Brown.

Discuss.


Title: Re: Massachusetts
Post by: freepcrusher on October 02, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Massachusetts is frequently labeled as the most Democratic state in the union. It voted for Democrat for President in all but two (1980, 1984) elections from 1960, being the only state that supported McGovern in 1972. Starting with Clinton in 1992, all counties were going Democratic.

Until recently, Massachusetts had all-Democratic congressional delegation and it's possible will have again starting next January.

On the other hand, it seems Massachusetts is fond with a certain kind of "fiscally conservative, socially moderate" Republicans, such as Bill Weld, Paul Cellucci, Charlie Baker and Scott Brown.
Discuss.

well the state was sympathetic to the republicans until about 1960 so there are some GOP heartstrings that show up from time to time. It was mostly bad timing. Ed Brooke could have been a senator for as long as he wanted, but he got into a sex scandal. Heckler was paired with Barney Frank in 1982. Others like Hastings Keith, Sil Conte or Bradford Morse retired (or in the case of Conte, died) and made their seats vulnerable to a pickup.


Title: Re: Massachusetts
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on October 03, 2012, 03:23:39 PM
Massachusetts is frequently labeled as the most Democratic state in the union. It voted for Democrat for President in all but two (1980, 1984) elections from 1960, being the only state that supported McGovern in 1972. Starting with Clinton in 1992, all counties were going Democratic.

Until recently, Massachusetts had all-Democratic congressional delegation and it's possible will have again starting next January.

On the other hand, it seems Massachusetts is fond with a certain kind of "fiscally conservative, socially moderate" Republicans, such as Bill Weld, Paul Cellucci, Charlie Baker and Scott Brown.

Discuss.
Charlie Baker lost his bid for governor.  And don't forget John Volpe and Francis Sargent. 
Massachusetts is frequently labeled as the most Democratic state in the union. It voted for Democrat for President in all but two (1980, 1984) elections from 1960, being the only state that supported McGovern in 1972. Starting with Clinton in 1992, all counties were going Democratic.

Until recently, Massachusetts had all-Democratic congressional delegation and it's possible will have again starting next January.

On the other hand, it seems Massachusetts is fond with a certain kind of "fiscally conservative, socially moderate" Republicans, such as Bill Weld, Paul Cellucci, Charlie Baker and Scott Brown.
Discuss.

well the state was sympathetic to the republicans until about 1960 so there are some GOP heartstrings that show up from time to time. It was mostly bad timing. Ed Brooke could have been a senator for as long as he wanted, but he got into a sex scandal. Heckler was paired with Barney Frank in 1982. Others like Hastings Keith, Sil Conte or Bradford Morse retired (or in the case of Conte, died) and made their seats vulnerable to a pickup.
Where are these so-called Republican heartstrings in the voting?  I thought that just about all of those in New England were gone.


Title: Re: Massachusetts
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on October 03, 2012, 03:29:43 PM
Massachusetts voters tend to be more thoughtful than voters elsewhere. While they certainly prefer Democrats, and liberal ones at that, they are also willing to entertain voting for the right kind of Republican. That's why you see Republicans doing better in Massachusetts, ironically, the higher up the ticket you go.

Also, Massachusetts is trending Republican ever so slightly. It's a result of the wealth build-up in the Plymouth exurbs, and an increasing willingness by staunchly conservative Democrats in Worcester County to pull the GOP lever.


Title: Re: Massachusetts
Post by: Zanas on October 04, 2012, 05:09:04 PM
Wasn't Romney Governor of that state ? Is he a part of those "fiscally conservative, socially moderate" Republicans ? Well if I've understood well, he kind of was during that term, and now has revolved almost completely.

I've always been surprised to find out those Rep. officials in iron-strong Dem. states. Are there any states at all where Dems sweep it all ? Something like Gov, both Sen, all Representatives and EV for President ? I'm almost sure there are a few of this kind on the Republican side, but are there on the Democrat's ?

In France we really have places where no right-wing parliamentary, or local majority, or presidential vote will ever happen, and same with the left.