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Election Archive => 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Niemeyerite on October 03, 2012, 05:49:45 PM



Title: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: Niemeyerite on October 03, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
Obama advisors may think the stae is winnable, but PPP is showing a likely GOP scenario, with a 40/57 approval for the President and Romney favorability above 50%.

Romney 53%
Obama  44%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/carmona-up-2-romney-by-9-in-arizona.html


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: J. J. on October 03, 2012, 05:52:11 PM
It's not unexpected, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was by 10+ points.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 03, 2012, 05:53:57 PM
PPP has been showing very Republican numbers lately.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: 5280 on October 03, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: knyphausen on October 03, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%

You expect that much to go to third parties (7%)!?! :o

Why may I ask?


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: 5280 on October 03, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%

You expect that much to go to third parties (7%)!?! :o

Why may I ask?
There are 3 candidates that I know of are running as third party.  They could split the vote by 2-2.5% at least.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: 5280 on October 03, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%

You expect that much to go to third parties (7%)!?! :o

Why may I ask?
There are 3 candidates that I know of are running as third party.  They could split the vote by 2-2.5% at least.

I know math isn't your strong suit (or thinking in general, for that matter), but 2% is NOT equal to 7%
You should really watch what you say, cause you're going to piss some people off by saying negative attacks.  Don't be a jackass.  

My numbers are off, no need to point out the obvious stuff.  When you have 3 third party candidates that take 2.5%, 2.5% and 2%, it adds up to 7%.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: danny on October 04, 2012, 12:45:18 AM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%

You expect that much to go to third parties (7%)!?! :o

Why may I ask?
There are 3 candidates that I know of are running as third party.  They could split the vote by 2-2.5% at least.

I know math isn't your strong suit (or thinking in general, for that matter), but 2% is NOT equal to 7%
You should really watch what you say, cause you're going to piss some people off by saying negative attacks.  Don't be a jackass.  

My numbers are off, no need to point out the obvious stuff.  When you have 3 third party candidates that take 2.5%, 2.5% and 2%, it adds up to 7%.

The math is good, but I don't see why you would get 3 parties with at least 2%, when in 2008 none managed even close to 1%.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: J. J. on October 04, 2012, 12:47:02 AM
PPP has been showing very Republican numbers lately.

Maybe they are just good pollsters.  The house bias might come into play as well.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: 5280 on October 04, 2012, 02:14:25 AM
I expect Romney to win around 52% of the vote, and Obama about 41%

You expect that much to go to third parties (7%)!?! :o

Why may I ask?
There are 3 candidates that I know of are running as third party.  They could split the vote by 2-2.5% at least.

I know math isn't your strong suit (or thinking in general, for that matter), but 2% is NOT equal to 7%
You should really watch what you say, cause you're going to piss some people off by saying negative attacks.  Don't be a jackass.  

My numbers are off, no need to point out the obvious stuff.  When you have 3 third party candidates that take 2.5%, 2.5% and 2%, it adds up to 7%.

The math is good, but I don't see why you would get 3 parties with at least 2%, when in 2008 none managed even close to 1%.
Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, and Goode.  I'm only factoring in the big name third party candidates.  Averaging the numbers in 3 ways is the easiest outcome.


Title: AZ: Public Policy Polling: Romney with Lead in Arizona
Post by: ElectionAtlas on October 04, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
New Poll: Arizona President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-10-03 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=420121003108)

Summary: D: 41%, R: 52%, I: 4%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_1003.pdf)



Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: 5280 on October 04, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
And I guessed right on the nose with this one. Go me...


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: Umengus on October 04, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
PPP has been showing very Republican numbers lately.

like Ras but for democrats...

Party id: R +16 (R +7 in 2008)

So optimist for republicans but the Obama +8 amongst independents (+5 in 2008) is probably overestimated so all in all, global result is fine.


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: Niemeyerite on October 04, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
New Poll: Arizona President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-10-03 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=420121003108)

Summary: D: 41%, R: 52%, I: 4%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_1003.pdf)



Hey, boss, you have it wrong ;)


Title: Re: AZ-PPP: Romney ahead by 9
Post by: Umengus on October 04, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
New Poll: Arizona President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-10-03 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=420121003108)

Summary: D: 41%, R: 52%, I: 4%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_1003.pdf)



blasphem !

No, he's right. cfr Q7 in the poll

Hey, boss, you have it wrong ;)