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Title: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 24, 2012, 10:34:15 AM () Welcome to the new Northeast Assembly floor. The other thread will be closed due to the new reply limit. Business can begin after the Representatives take their oaths of office on Thursday and elect a new Speaker. :) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 26, 2012, 06:47:41 PM Just a reminder: Lieutenant Governor Goldwater is in charge of opening session and the election of the Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 27, 2012, 05:01:09 PM I will now open this session. I will also open the nomination period for the Speaker. Representatives will have 24 hours to declare and/or nominate candidates.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on December 27, 2012, 09:14:29 PM I nominate Alfred F. Jones.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on December 28, 2012, 10:51:13 AM I nominate Alfred F. Jones. Seconded. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 28, 2012, 05:04:08 PM The nomination period for the Speaker has ended. Voting will now begin. Voting will last 72 hours or until all Representatives have voted.
Northeast Speaker [] Alfred F. Jones. [] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 28, 2012, 05:04:36 PM Northeast Speaker
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 28, 2012, 06:07:31 PM Mr. Lieutenant Governor,
Would it be permissible for me to make a short statement to the Assembly regarding my most recent service and the remarkable progress of this body? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 28, 2012, 07:03:19 PM Northeast Speaker
[X] Alfred F. Jones Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on December 28, 2012, 08:37:33 PM Northeast Speaker
[X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 29, 2012, 12:01:07 AM Mr. Lieutenant Governor, Would it be permissible for me to make a short statement to the Assembly regarding my most recent service and the remarkable progress of this body? Sure, I don't see why not. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on December 29, 2012, 05:28:12 AM [X] Alfred F. Jones Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 30, 2012, 10:13:31 AM Mr. Lieutenant Governor, I believe we have a new Speaker, now. ;)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 30, 2012, 10:43:42 AM Mr. Lieutenant Governor, I believe we have a new Speaker, now. ;) Yeah, but I have to wait for Hockey Dude or another 30 hours before I can officially close the vote. :P Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 30, 2012, 11:35:50 AM Isn't the time period 24 hours usually?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 30, 2012, 11:38:30 AM Isn't the time period 24 hours usually? I believe so. That, or until a candidate has a majority. I suppose one more day won't make a huge difference, but I certainly hope we don't end up with a lackluster session... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on December 30, 2012, 12:25:12 PM
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 30, 2012, 05:20:27 PM Okay, voting is now finished. Alfred F. Jones has been unanimously elected Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 30, 2012, 10:40:46 PM Yay! I'll try and start to get bills up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 31, 2012, 05:51:06 AM Does Cincy count as a Representative or the people for purposes of his bill? I'd say Representative, but...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 31, 2012, 09:57:43 AM Does Cincy count as a Representative or the people for purposes of his bill? I'd say Representative, but... Cincinnatus's term expired, so he counts as a member of the people now. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 31, 2012, 10:11:38 PM Mr. Speaker, Jerseyrules has been appointed to head the Department of Commerce and awaits Assembly confirmation.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 01, 2013, 12:22:26 AM All right then:
Jerseyrules for Secretary of Commerce [] Aye [] Nay [] Abstain ----------------------------------------------------- [X] Abstain Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 01, 2013, 06:10:32 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 01, 2013, 10:26:20 AM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 01, 2013, 02:36:57 PM Jerseyrules for Secretary of Commerce
[X] Aye [ ] Nay [ ] Abstain Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 04, 2013, 12:00:14 AM Mr. Speaker, I believe Jerseyrules has been confirmed. ;)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on January 04, 2013, 12:13:19 AM (I apologize, this totally slipped my mind.) ;)
To the Lieutenant Governor, the Speaker, and the Representatives of the Northeast Assembly: I was intensely proud and honored to have the ability to serve 87 days in this great legislative body. I have had a long and proud relationship with the Northeast, and with this Assembly in particular - it was not too long ago, or so it seems to me, that I first opened the discussion on the creation of a assembly, and my, how far we all have come. :) This body has worked through good times and bad for both this region and the nation over the past three years, and has always persevered through whatever difficulty might have faced it. This is indeed a testament to the strength of this institution and of the distinguished members we choose to send here. In a few hours, I will take the oath of office as an Atlasian Senator, and as I embark on this new great journey, I will always remember the concerns and needs of this body and of our region in all of my work. I look forward to my service, and even though I will serve as a Senator for all the people of Atlasia, I would like to be seen as a second Regional Senator for our great region - along with my colleague, Nix - as we both seek to improve the lives of our region and our country. I will always remember my time here and the work I accomplished with the assistance of all the distinguished members who have graced this chamber. I thank you all for your time and wish you the greatest of luck in the session to come. () Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 04, 2013, 05:51:13 AM *sniff sniff*
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 06, 2013, 01:19:39 PM Mr. Speaker, if it's all right with you, I would like to deliver my State of the Region Address in the chamber on Wednesday, February 13th. :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 06, 2013, 06:43:32 PM Of course, Mr. Governor. You can do whatever you want with me...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 06, 2013, 10:04:24 PM I thank you all for your time and wish you the greatest of luck in the session to come. Good luck in your new job, Senator. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 13, 2013, 10:14:21 AM Mr. Speaker, my debate proposal (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=162633.msg3587243#msg3587243) awaits Assembly confirmation.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 14, 2013, 05:54:16 AM Sorry about that. Here goes:
I've never done this before, but I assume we just vote on it? Anyway, voting will last for 24 hours or until all Representatives have voted. Executive Order #8 A debate to include all Northeast Assembly, gubernatorial, and senatorial candidates will open and be held from February 8th-14th. The debate style shall be as follows: Both Northeast and non-Northeast citizens will ask questions in a special 'question thread' and specify which candidate (or candidates) is being asked. Candidates will be allowed to answer, offer rebuttals, and ask each other questions throughout the debate. On February 14th, candidates will deliver closing statements. This debate will take place at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. This executive order will go into effect upon Assembly confirmation. () Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on January 14, 2013, 10:33:26 AM Mr. President, I'm still waiting for an answer on this "culture of freedom" thing. Local governments do not and should not have the ability to restrict the rights of the people of this region. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 14, 2013, 11:02:42 AM Aye on the debate proposal.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 14, 2013, 06:23:20 PM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 14, 2013, 07:46:28 PM I would prefer a format in which there are topics and candidates can explain their positions rather than a question being asked directly to the possibility of directing the question to one candidate, especially if questions come from non-citizens of the region. For senatorial candidates non-citizens can bring up useful issues since the Senate deals with national issues, but for candidate to regional roles, we should prioritize at least questions coming from our citizens.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 14, 2013, 10:16:40 PM Abstain on the debate format
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on January 14, 2013, 10:17:30 PM As a nonmember candidate, I can't stress my agreement with Mr. Poirot enough.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 15, 2013, 05:55:31 AM Maybe I'm still in the voting window!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 15, 2013, 05:57:10 AM Mr. President, I'm still waiting for an answer on this "culture of freedom" thing. Local governments do not and should not have the ability to restrict the rights of the people of this region. So you don't support localized gun control, localized drug regulations, or anything of the sort in any case? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 15, 2013, 05:58:06 AM Dammit, I'm not. Anyway, the resolution passes with 2 Ayes and 1 abstention.
I'm down with Poirot's position. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on January 15, 2013, 10:17:54 AM Mr. President, I'm still waiting for an answer on this "culture of freedom" thing. Local governments do not and should not have the ability to restrict the rights of the people of this region. So you don't support localized gun control, localized drug regulations, or anything of the sort in any case? Not at all. I support local governments expanding the rights of the people however. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 15, 2013, 10:40:49 PM Mr. Speaker, legislation is now on the agenda. Just in case ya didn't see it.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 16, 2013, 05:56:32 AM Thanks, Mr. Governor. You're a shining star among the dark and scary not-stars that is some of the Northeast (I'm looking at you, Amy T. Simkins of Augusta, Maine).
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 16, 2013, 12:19:18 PM Seeing as we don't seem to have a large amount of bills on the floor or coming and the budget has already passed, can I suggest we turn our attention to fine tuning the SOAP?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 17, 2013, 10:26:01 PM Whyever not?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 19, 2013, 05:55:41 AM Right then, to get this started I'll post what I think (going by the wiki plus the civic information thread). Feel free to point out any inaccuracies!
Quote 1. Proposed Legislation Thread A. The Lt. Governor shall open a new Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread at the start of each Northeast Assembly session. B. Representatives, the Governor and any concerned Northeast citizen shall post the full text of any proposed legislation in a response to the Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread for the current session. Each response shall contain only one piece of proposed legislation. C. Nothing shall be posted to the Northeast Assembly proposed legislation thread except proposed legislation or a Northeast citizen's signature for proposed citizen legislation. 2. Movement of Legislation to the Northeast Assembly Floor A. Two bills shall be allowed on the floor concurrently, to be referred to as Legislative Slots. Legislative Slot 1: Except as provided in Section 2, subsection C, priority shall be given to the People. Legislation proposed by concerned Northeast citizens shall be placed in this slot. If there is no new legislation proposed by concerned Northeast citizens in the Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread, the Speaker shall place the earliest introduced legislation in this slot. Legislative Slot 2: Any legislation proposed by a Representative or the Governor shall be placed in this slot, in the order that it is proposed, except as provided in Section 2, subsection C. B. Each piece of legislation on the floor shall receive its own thread. Threads shall be titled as follows: NE1: Name of bill, where 1 is substituted to designate the Legislative Slot the bill occupies and the Name of bill shall be the Title of the Bill given by its sponsor in the Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread. Each thread shall remain open until the Bill either (a) becomes law via the Governor’s signature, lack of Gubernatorial action, or veto override or (b) fails to receive majority support from Representatives. C. Any Representative may make a motion in Northeast Assembly thread to suspend section 2(a) of this Standing Order to move a piece proposed legislation to the top of the queue. The motion shall be immediately put to a vote on the Northeast Assembly floor. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours. If the motion passes by a vote of the majority of all Representatives (with abstentions and absences counted as nay votes), the Speaker shall place such piece of proposed legislation on the Northeast Assembly floor immediately after a legislative slot is available. 3. Legislative Debates and Voting A. Except as otherwise provided in subsection (G), all proposed legislation shall be open for debate for no less than seventy-two (72) hours after the Speaker places it in a Legislative Slot. B. During debate, Representatives may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, a vote on the amendment shall be taken twenty-four (24) hours after being proposed unless there is less than twenty-four (24) hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than twenty-four (24) hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for twenty-four (24) hours, or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). C. The sponsor of a proposed amendment may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a vote on the amendment is started. D. The sponsor of a piece of proposed legislation may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a final vote is taken on the proposed legislation. E. A final vote on the proposed legislation shall take place after the Speaker certifies the vote on any proposed amendments (or, if there are no such amendments, at the end of the debate period). Except as otherwise provided in subsection g, such votes shall be open for twenty-four (24) hours , or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. A piece of proposed legislation shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). F. The Speaker shall certify the results of any vote within twenty-four (24) hours of the end of the voting period. G. The Speaker shall have the authority to extend or shorten the debate period upon the written request of any Representative.Except as provided by Section 3, subsection J, total debate time can never exceed 120 hours, and never be less than 36 hours. H: The Northeast Speaker may table legislation being debated in the Assembly if the sponsor of the legislation fails to speak on behalf of his or her bill within 24 hours of its being introduced to the Assembly for debate. I: If no other legislation is available to be introduced for debate, this power is invalidated. J. Total debate time for tri-annual budgets in the Northeast may never exceed 240 hours, and never be less than 72 hours. 4. Confirmation hearings A. The Assembly shall hold confirmation hearings for gubernatorial appointments to the positions in the executive departments, Chief Judicial Officer, or as the Northeast's regional senator (in the case of a vacancy in that office) B. Upon the announcement of a nomination by the governor, the Speaker shall open an independent hearing thread for the nominee. The thread shall be open for no less than seventy-two (72) hours. Per the request of a representative, debate time may be shortened or extended, but not any shorter than 36 hours or longer than 120, respectively. C. During this time, Representatives may question the nominee as they see fit in relation to the position for which they have been nominated. If a nominee feels he is being unfairly questioned or harassed within the thread with regard to matters that do not concern his appointment, he may appeal to the Speaker. D. Upon the expiration of debate time, the Assembly shall vote to confirm the nominee; a simple majority shall be required for approval. In the event of a tie, the vote shall be deemed to have failed. 4. Terminology A. All legislation regarding the rules of the Northeast Assembly shall be called Standing Orders. B. All proposed legislation that requires the signature of the Governor shall be called a Bill until signed and thereafter an Act. 5. Miscellaneous A Northeast Assembly Protest and Analysis Thread shall be created and made open to Northeast citizens for the discussion of legislative proposals, debates, votes, and all other matters that relate to the Northeast government. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 19, 2013, 02:08:54 PM Hey, I'm gonna have to take a leave of absence until at least Wednesday, maybe Thursday. Y'all are gonna have to manage without my unique talents.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 19, 2013, 04:05:47 PM So does this mean I have to take over Alfred's duties while he's gone?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 19, 2013, 04:43:23 PM I don't know if there is a written rule on who takes over Speaker duties when he is on leave but I am fine with the Lt. Governor taking the role of Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 19, 2013, 04:44:00 PM I might be wrong, but I don't think that's lawful...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 19, 2013, 05:00:14 PM I might be wrong, but I don't think that's lawful... Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was, that's why I asked... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 19, 2013, 09:25:09 PM There is a rule against Lt. Governor being Speaker? I didn't know that. Our Lt. Governor is a representative who got the most first preference votes, he is not elected to that specific office and not a representative.
Do we take a break, or do we proceed to name another speaker if there is no line of succession for this. If we have to take a formal vote of 24 hours, it will take some time. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 19, 2013, 09:30:30 PM The Constitution says that the Lieutenant Governor takes over the Governor, but not the Speaker. Yes, he opens the session, but that's all, unfortunately. I think we might have to take a break, but I wish Alfred had put the farm bill to a vote before he left.
Now might be a good time to consider new legislation to propose. Maybe we can review the SOAP like bore suggested. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 19, 2013, 11:50:40 PM So the Speaker leaving puts the whole assembly on hiatus? That seems like an inefficient system. What are everybody's thoughts on amending the Constitution so that the Lt. Governor takes over for the Speaker if he has to leave temporarily?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 20, 2013, 12:08:20 AM I don't care who replaces the speaker in case of short absence. It could be Lt. Governor or have a line of succession on seniority, but with seniority we would need to keep track of it.
If we did a quick vote for interim speaker, with 4 representatives left we need three votes for majority. It is strange that the assembly is paralyzed and someone just can't step in, even just informally to keep things going like put a bill to a vote. To clarify who takes over Speaker role, do we need to amend the constitution or we can put it in the SOAP. As it happens bore wants to discuss SOAP. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on January 20, 2013, 12:10:06 AM That can just be amended into the SOAP.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on January 20, 2013, 01:29:55 AM Wait, we can't have the Lt. Governor replace the Speaker because they're sometimes the same person... Yeah, we need to have a line of succession based on seniority or something similar.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 20, 2013, 11:55:22 AM Where would the amendments about an acting speaker go in the SOAP?
Anyway, here are my proposed changes to the SOAP Quote 1. Proposed Legislation Thread A. Representatives, the Governor and any concerned Northeast citizen shall post the full text of any proposed legislation in a response to the Northeast Assembly Legislation Introduction Thread B. Nothing shall be posted to the Northeast Assembly proposed legislation thread except proposed legislation or a Northeast citizen's signature for proposed citizen legislation. 2. Movement of Legislation to the Northeast Assembly Floor A. B. Each piece of legislation on the floor shall receive its own thread. Threads shall be titled as follows: NE1: Name of bill, where 1 is substituted to designate the Legislative Slot the bill occupies and the Name of bill shall be the Title of the Bill given by its sponsor in the Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread. Each thread shall remain open until the Bill either (a) becomes law via the Governor’s signature, lack of Gubernatorial action, or veto override or (b) fails to receive majority support from Representatives. C. Any Representative may make a motion in Northeast Assembly thread to suspend section 2(a) of this Standing Order to move a piece proposed legislation to the top of the queue. The motion shall be immediately put to a vote on the Northeast Assembly floor. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours. If the motion passes by a vote of the majority of all Representatives (with abstentions and absences not counted as 3. Legislative Debates and Voting A. Except as otherwise provided in subsection (G), all proposed legislation shall be open for debate for no less than seventy-two (72) hours after the Speaker places it in a Legislative Slot. B. During debate, Representatives may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, a vote on the amendment shall be taken twenty-four (24) hours after being proposed unless there is less than twenty-four (24) hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than twenty-four (24) hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for twenty-four (24) hours, or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). C. The sponsor of a proposed amendment may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a vote on the amendment is started. D. The sponsor of a piece of proposed legislation may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a final vote is taken on the proposed legislation. E. A final vote on the proposed legislation shall take place after the Speaker certifies the vote on any proposed amendments (or, if there are no such amendments, at the end of the debate period). Except as otherwise provided in subsection g, such votes shall be open for twenty-four (24) hours , or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. A piece of proposed legislation shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). F. The Speaker shall certify the results of any vote within twenty-four (24) hours of the end of the voting period. G. The Speaker shall have the authority to extend or shorten the debate period upon the written request of any Representative.Except as provided by Section 3, subsection J and Section 3, subsection K, total debate time can never exceed H: The Northeast Speaker may table legislation being debated in the Assembly if the sponsor of the legislation fails to speak on behalf of his or her bill within 24 hours of its being introduced to the Assembly for debate. I: If no other legislation is available to be introduced for debate, this power is invalidated. J. Total debate time for tri-annual budgets in the Northeast may never exceed 240 hours, and never be less than 72 hours. K Any Representative may make a motion in Northeast Assembly thread to suspend section 3(j) and 3(g) of this Standing Order to extend debate. The motion shall then be immediately put to a vote on the Northeast Assembly floor. This vote shall be open for 24 hours. If the motion passes by a vote of the majority of all Representatives (with abstentions and absences not counted as 4. Confirmation hearings A. The Assembly shall hold confirmation hearings for gubernatorial appointments to the positions in the executive departments, Chief Judicial Officer, or as the Northeast's regional senator (in the case of a vacancy in that office) B. Upon the announcement of a nomination by the governor, the Speaker shall open an independent hearing thread for the nominee. The thread shall be open for no less than seventy-two (72) hours. Per the request of a representative, debate time may be shortened or extended, but not any shorter than 36 hours or longer than C. During this time, Representatives may question the nominee as they see fit in relation to the position for which they have been nominated. If a nominee feels he is being unfairly questioned or harassed within the thread with regard to matters that do not concern his appointment, he may appeal to the Speaker. D. Upon the expiration of debate time, the Assembly shall vote to confirm the nominee; a simple majority shall be required for approval. In the event of a tie, the vote shall be deemed to have failed. A. All legislation regarding the rules of the Northeast Assembly shall be called Standing Orders. B. All proposed legislation that requires the signature of the Governor shall be called a Bill until signed and thereafter an Act. A Northeast Assembly Protest and Analysis Thread shall be created and made open to Northeast citizens for the discussion of legislative proposals, debates, votes, and all other matters that relate to the Northeast government. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 20, 2013, 03:18:03 PM I had noticed two things that we didn't do so I agree with the proposed changes. In number 1 about opening a new legislation thread each session. At the end of the soap, the protest and analysis thread. I don't think it was ever used. We either creat that thread or remove this from soap. I don't know if there was such a thread if there would be more citizen participation and comments. Maybe we should invite citizens to come in the Assembly thread.
I still have to read changes to point 2 and 3 more carefully. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on January 20, 2013, 04:02:37 PM It's rather insulting to remove the People's priority. :(
The Protest and Analysis thread has been created, it probably just hasn't been used in quite a while. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 20, 2013, 04:07:35 PM It's rather insulting to remove the People's priority. :( The Protest and Analysis thread has been created, it probably just hasn't been used in quite a while. I'm not wedded to that edit, but, especially as we very rarely get citizen's legislation and we don't have month long waits anyway, it makes life somewhat easier and simple. I'm not opposed to the Protest and Analysis thread either, but I'm not sure it's necessary to have it in the SOAP. If you ask me we should be having the simplest SOAP possible. As well I kind of like the simplicity of having all assembly discussion in the one thread. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 20, 2013, 04:09:12 PM I feel like there should be a way for the citizens to make their voices heard, but I suppose they can already do that with the Assembly thread (as I don't believe it excludes non-Representatives) and by contacting members of their government, so I don't think it matters a whole lot whether we keep it in there, especially since I'm sure no one would be interested in digging it back up.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 20, 2013, 07:29:32 PM Wheter we keep the protest and analysis thread in the soap or not, we could make it a friendlier place by changing its name to NE coffee shop or corner store, to represent where citizens meet and discuss current events.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 21, 2013, 11:11:35 AM I'm certainly not opposed to a thread, but I don't think its necessary to have it in the SOAP.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 21, 2013, 11:42:21 PM The protest thread is not directly how the assembly works, it is accessory like the Miscellaneous category seems to indicate.
The crossing of the word nay in 2 c) and 3 k), is it only stylistic but doesn't change the vote requirement, that is what it seems to me. The 168 hours in 3 g), I imagine that is what we voted on a couple months ago. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 23, 2013, 01:30:37 PM The protest thread is not directly how the assembly works, it is accessory like the Miscellaneous category seems to indicate. Which is why I want it out of the SOAP, as it does not have any relevence to the rest of it, and takes up unnecessary space Quote The crossing of the word nay in 2 c) and 3 k), is it only stylistic but doesn't change the vote requirement, that is what it seems to me. That basically means abstentions don't count as anything at all, so it's a substantive change. Quote The 168 hours in 3 g), I imagine that is what we voted on a couple months ago. I'm proposing extending the time limit to 168 hours, and I can't remember any change recently (although I might be mistaken). Perhaps you were thinking of the budget extension? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on January 23, 2013, 10:53:02 PM Ah yes, it must have been memories from budget extension hours.
Increasing debate time to 168 hours brings flexibility. I can support that. It happens rarely but if there was a bill with many proposed amendments and debates and votes that come with them, we could need time. About the vote requirement change in 2c) and 3k), I think I get it now. It was a majority of the number of representatives and the change would make it become the majority of those voting. The positive I see is in case of absences it's easier to move along, it doesn't create an obstacle in those votes. The negative is it's easier for a small number to do as they wish, for example the vote could pass with a count of 2-0. I have to think of the context. A motion to move legislation to top of queue doesn't seem that hurtful. Someone not looking within the 24 hours might miss it since we can't know in advance there will be a motion like this proposed. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 23, 2013, 11:42:26 PM What do you guys think of abolishing the Budget Committee and reserving unlimited debate time for the tri-annual budget, instead? Then the Assembly could vote to invoke cloture by a simple majority after discussion ceases. I think that's a better idea than creating a four-person committee to handle these matters, anyway.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on January 24, 2013, 12:53:39 PM I'm back!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on January 28, 2013, 08:18:57 AM Maybe I'm reading this wrongly, but surely the capital amendment has passed, as it got three quarters of the voting members of the assembly (as hockeydudes vote was out of time).
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 28, 2013, 01:38:35 PM Maybe I'm reading this wrongly, but surely the capital amendment has passed, as it got three quarters of the voting members of the assembly (as hockeydudes vote was out of time). I checked the Constitution on this last night and interpreted it differently, but as I look at it now, it looks like you could be right. It passed with 2/3 of voting members supporting it and a majority of the body as a whole, so unless there's a problem with how we're reading it, I think I'll be able to put it on the ballot next month... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Simfan34 on February 01, 2013, 10:27:58 AM Quote from: Scott Simfan, Senator Nix? You both proposed Buffalo as the new location in the first place, I believe. What do you think of HockeyDude's compromise? Well, do remember while the first to propose moving the capital, I favoured a greenfield site, one near Walden, NY if I recall correctly. I have always been hesitant about using the capital for purposes of economic revitalisation; such a move would likely displace, not empower, the local people. In an extreme case like Camden, we'd see mass displacement, the intensification of local tensions, and several areas of uneven development. For a city like Buffalo, which is healthier economically, it would supplement and stimulate local businesses, because they're mature and complex enough to interact with the sort of climate an administrative center. Also remember we've already begun to relocate several government institutions to Buffalo, such as the regional university and the Governor's School. New York is far too expensive a city to maintain our government in-we're best off selling our properties for the inevitable windfall. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 02, 2013, 09:43:13 AM Guys, I think Hockey Dude missed too many votes and is therefore expelled. Am I right?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 05, 2013, 05:51:44 AM Also, we've run out of bills.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 11, 2013, 10:28:51 PM WHERE THE HELL IS HOCKEY??!!??!!??!!??
I know for sure he's missed at least 3 votes, so he's definitely been expelled. He may have not technically been an Assemblyman for a while. Anyway, Scott's gonna have to find a replacement. Or maybe he'll just wait it out until we have five new winners in the election. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on February 12, 2013, 10:43:00 AM Sorry i haven't been around. I'm busy with school and been dealing with some personal matters, as well. Alas, it probably best you grab a replacement. I really have too much on my plate right now to be chastised over this.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 12, 2013, 10:57:09 AM WHERE THE HELL IS HOCKEY??!!??!!??!!?? I know for sure he's missed at least 3 votes, so he's definitely been expelled. He may have not technically been an Assemblyman for a while. Anyway, Scott's gonna have to find a replacement. Or maybe he'll just wait it out until we have five new winners in the election. We can only expel members if they've missed three consecutive votes, unfortunately, and I don't believe HockeyDude ever did. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 12, 2013, 03:19:12 PM WHERE THE HELL IS HOCKEY??!!??!!??!!?? I know for sure he's missed at least 3 votes, so he's definitely been expelled. He may have not technically been an Assemblyman for a while. Anyway, Scott's gonna have to find a replacement. Or maybe he'll just wait it out until we have five new winners in the election. We can only expel members if they've missed three consecutive votes, unfortunately, and I don't believe HockeyDude ever did. Hm. I believe he's missed the last three votes we've had at least. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on February 12, 2013, 03:20:34 PM WHERE THE HELL IS HOCKEY??!!??!!??!!?? I know for sure he's missed at least 3 votes, so he's definitely been expelled. He may have not technically been an Assemblyman for a while. Anyway, Scott's gonna have to find a replacement. Or maybe he'll just wait it out until we have five new winners in the election. We can only expel members if they've missed three consecutive votes, unfortunately, and I don't believe HockeyDude ever did. Hm. I believe he's missed the last three votes we've had at least. It has to be votes on legislation and that has not happened. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on February 13, 2013, 05:55:48 AM WHERE THE HELL IS HOCKEY??!!??!!??!!?? I know for sure he's missed at least 3 votes, so he's definitely been expelled. He may have not technically been an Assemblyman for a while. Anyway, Scott's gonna have to find a replacement. Or maybe he'll just wait it out until we have five new winners in the election. We can only expel members if they've missed three consecutive votes, unfortunately, and I don't believe HockeyDude ever did. Hm. I believe he's missed the last three votes we've had at least. It has to be votes on legislation and that has not happened. Ah. Well, it turns out he responded to my original query a few posts up. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on February 13, 2013, 08:06:51 AM Sorry i haven't been around. I'm busy with school and been dealing with some personal matters, as well. Alas, it probably best you grab a replacement. I really have too much on my plate right now to be chastised over this. No need to feel chastised here. I would just recommend that you declare a leave of absence in this thread when you know you'll be unavailable. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 21, 2013, 12:20:16 AM Lieutenant Governor Spenstar3D (after he swears in) shall formally open the session and nomination period for Speaker here.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 21, 2013, 12:55:00 PM I already swore in.
This session of the Northeast Assembly is hereby OPEN! I began the nomination process for the Speakership in a separate thread. You have 24 hours to announce your intentions. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 22, 2013, 09:51:35 PM Guys, it's important that you all vote in the Speaker election. There are two candidates, and the only ones who voted are, well, us :P . Speaking of, since one Rep is missing and we have an even number, Gov. Scott, what do we do if there's a tie? Will you or the Lt. Gov. cast the tiebeaking vote? Do we get Napoleon to do it? Do we wait for the Special Election?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on February 22, 2013, 10:52:40 PM Looking at the current activity, I'd be happy if anyone else votes.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 22, 2013, 11:07:16 PM I'd extend voting time. There shouldn't be a tie, as we do have five members because bore was appointed to fill Napoleon's seat. I'll be cracking the whip pretty soon if no one else votes, though...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 23, 2013, 01:38:38 AM I'd extend voting time. There shouldn't be a tie, as we do have five members because bore was appointed to fill Napoleon's seat. I'll be cracking the whip pretty soon if no one else votes, though... This will be interesting Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 23, 2013, 10:35:45 AM The Speakership race is over. As your new speaker, I look forward to what will be a very productive session in the Northeast Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 24, 2013, 12:02:43 PM Mr. Speaker, are we ready to consider legislation?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 24, 2013, 12:03:58 PM Yes we are. What shall we bring to the floor first?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 24, 2013, 12:09:26 PM I believe the budget and bore's proposal are first to go.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 24, 2013, 12:13:59 PM Alrghty then.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on February 25, 2013, 10:37:01 PM Spenstar, can you start putting the slot in the title of the thread, it makes things easier I find. Correct me if I am wrong, but the budget goes into slot 3, Bore's amendment to the soap in 1, and then mine in two, right?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on February 25, 2013, 10:41:21 PM Spenstar, can you start putting the slot in the title of the thread, it makes things easier I find. Correct me if I am wrong, but the budget goes into slot 3, Bore's amendment to the soap in 1, and then mine in two, right? You're right. I hadn't known that the budget had been switched to slot three but I think we've told Speaker Spenstar about the others. :) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on February 26, 2013, 12:15:25 AM Spenstar, can you start putting the slot in the title of the thread, it makes things easier I find. Correct me if I am wrong, but the budget goes into slot 3, Bore's amendment to the soap in 1, and then mine in two, right? You're right. I hadn't known that the budget had been switched to slot three but I think we've told Speaker Spenstar about the others. :) I am aware of the slots thing but I did not know the budget got a third slot. I will adjust the threads accordingly. Thank you. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on February 26, 2013, 07:15:38 AM Well Legislative Slot 3: Shall be reserved for the Northeast's tri annual budgets.
I mean we are looking at the soap so... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on March 01, 2013, 11:06:05 AM I have, I was tired when I did that. I apologise and will reverse my action immediately.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on March 01, 2013, 12:51:36 PM I will be updating the Vital Civic Information thread today.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on March 04, 2013, 06:21:24 PM Oh joy. Bad news, guys. I'm going to be overrun with work this week, and next week is the final week of rehearsals for a musical I'm in, so I won't be able to be very active in my speakership for a little while. I'll still be around, but have patience with me is all. Thank you
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on March 04, 2013, 08:16:46 PM Oh joy. Bad news, guys. I'm going to be overrun with work this week, and next week is the final week of rehearsals for a musical I'm in, so I won't be able to be very active in my speakership for a little while. I'll still be around, but have patience with me is all. Thank you Can you delegate this? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on March 04, 2013, 08:18:29 PM Oh joy. Bad news, guys. I'm going to be overrun with work this week, and next week is the final week of rehearsals for a musical I'm in, so I won't be able to be very active in my speakership for a little while. I'll still be around, but have patience with me is all. Thank you Can you delegate this? Not if he's both Speaker and Lt. Governor, IIRC. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on March 04, 2013, 08:23:18 PM Oh joy. Bad news, guys. I'm going to be overrun with work this week, and next week is the final week of rehearsals for a musical I'm in, so I won't be able to be very active in my speakership for a little while. I'll still be around, but have patience with me is all. Thank you Can you delegate this? Not if he's both Speaker and Lt. Governor, IIRC. Joy. I'll do all I can as speaker in the time I have, and when these two weeks are done I'll have much more time for more activity. I apologize for the inconvenience. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 07, 2013, 09:16:08 PM Mr. Speaker, Matt from VT has been appointed to head the Department of Commerce and awaits questioning/confirmation.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on March 07, 2013, 09:29:54 PM Thank you, Governor.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on March 10, 2013, 10:35:59 PM I think the Responsible sports act was put to a vote too quickly. I think according to 3g) in the soap, debate time has to be a minimum of 36 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blackacre on March 10, 2013, 10:41:53 PM Probably, but we already had all five of our representatives agree that the bill was a good idea. Waiting to put it to a vote would have been a waste of time since literally everyone backed it and were twiddling their thumbs waiting to approve it.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 11, 2013, 05:27:37 AM You have to follow the soap spenstar.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on March 11, 2013, 11:06:50 AM Just for the record, as there are so many different stages of the soap, with different amendments included etc, I thought I'd post the most up to date version which should probably either be included on the wiki, or have the SOAP link in the civic information thread come here.
Quote 1. Proposed Legislation Thread A. Representatives, the Governor and any concerned Northeast citizen shall post the full text of any proposed legislation in a response to the Northeast Assembly Legislation Introduction Thread. Each response shall contain only one piece of proposed legislation. B. Nothing shall be posted to the Northeast Assembly proposed legislation thread except proposed legislation or a Northeast citizen's signature for proposed citizen legislation. 2. Movement of Legislation to the Northeast Assembly Floor A. Three bills shall be allowed on the floor concurrently, to be referred to as Legislative Slots. Legislative Slots 1 and 2: Except as provided for in 2(c) The Speaker shall place the earliest introduced legislation in this slot. Legislative Slot 3: Shall be reserved for the Northeast's tri annual budgets. B. Each piece of legislation on the floor shall receive its own thread. Threads shall be titled as follows: NE1: Name of bill, where 1 is substituted to designate the Legislative Slot the bill occupies and the Name of bill shall be the Title of the Bill given by its sponsor in the Northeast Assembly Proposed Legislation Thread. Each thread shall remain open until the Bill either (a) becomes law via the Governor’s signature, lack of Gubernatorial action, or veto override or (b) fails to receive majority support from Representatives. C. Any Representative may make a motion in Northeast Assembly thread to suspend section 2(a) of this Standing Order to move a piece proposed legislation to the top of the queue. The motion shall be immediately put to a vote on the Northeast Assembly floor. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours. If the motion passes by a vote of the majority of all Representatives (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes), the Speaker shall place such piece of proposed legislation on the Northeast Assembly floor immediately after a legislative slot is available. 3. Legislative Debates and Voting A. Except as otherwise provided in 3(G), all proposed legislation shall be open for debate for no less than 72 hours after the Speaker places it in a Legislative Slot. B. During debate, Representatives may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, a vote on the amendment shall be taken 24 hours after being proposed unless there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours, or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). C. The sponsor of a proposed amendment may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a vote on the amendment is started. D. The sponsor of a piece of proposed legislation may remove it from the Assembly floor by tabling it at any time before a final vote is taken on the proposed legislation. E. A final vote on the proposed legislation shall take place after the Speaker certifies the vote on any proposed amendments (or, if there are no such amendments, at the end of the debate period). Such votes shall be open for 48 hours , or until all Representatives have voted, if earlier. A piece of proposed legislation shall pass if a majority of Representatives vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes). F. The Speaker shall certify the results of any vote within 24 hours of the end of the voting period. G. The Speaker shall have the authority to extend or shorten the debate period upon the written request of any Representative.Except as provided by 3(j) and 3(k), total debate time can never exceed 168 hours, and never be less than 36 hours. H: The Northeast Speaker may table legislation being debated in the Assembly if the sponsor of the legislation fails to speak on behalf of his or her bill within 36 hours of its being introduced to the Assembly for debate. I: If no other legislation is available to be introduced for debate, this power is invalidated. J. For tri annual budget debates, which shall take place in legislative slot 3, debate time shall be unlimited, and debate shall be deemed over when a motion for cloture has been passed by a majority of all voting representatives. K Any Representative may make a motion in Northeast Assembly thread to suspend section 3(j) and 3(g) of this Standing Order to extend debate. The motion shall then be immediately put to a vote on the Northeast Assembly floor. This vote shall be open for 24 hours. If the motion passes by a vote of the majority of all Representatives (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes) then debate time shall be extended for another 72 hours, with further motions required after this to continue debate. 4. Confirmation hearings A. The Assembly shall hold confirmation hearings for gubernatorial appointments to the positions in the executive departments, Chief Judicial Officer, or as the Northeast's regional senator (in the case of a vacancy in that office) B. Upon the announcement of a nomination by the governor, the Speaker shall open an independent hearing thread for the nominee. The thread shall be open for no less than 72 hours. Per the request of a representative, debate time may be shortened or extended, but not any shorter than 36 hours or longer than 168, respectively. C. During this time, Representatives may question the nominee as they see fit in relation to the position for which they have been nominated. If a nominee feels he is being unfairly questioned or harassed within the thread with regard to matters that do not concern his appointment, he may appeal to the Speaker. D. Upon the expiration of debate time, the Assembly shall vote to confirm the nominee; a simple majority shall be required for approval. Voting shall be open for 48 hours. In the event of a tie, the vote shall be deemed to have failed. 5. Terminology A. All legislation regarding the rules of the Northeast Assembly shall be called Standing Orders. B. All proposed legislation that requires the signature of the Governor shall be called a Bill until signed and thereafter an Act Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 14, 2013, 12:01:19 PM Where is Spenstar???
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on March 14, 2013, 01:27:29 PM Where is Spenstar??? I recall him mentioning he would be busy soon, must be now. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on March 14, 2013, 01:42:01 PM It might be worth legislating a fix to this problem. There needs to be a mechanism wherein someone else can act as Presiding Officer while the Speaker is on LOA/away, ect. The Lt. Gov was supposed to me this mechanism, but it's too common that the Speaker and Lt. Gov are one in the same.
As to how this could be created, it might have to be a constitutional amendment, but I haven't looked into this issue very much, yet. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 15, 2013, 04:37:44 PM Yes, but how do we pass that without a speaker, you know what, is there are no objections I am going to act as informal speaker until Spenstar comes back.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: fezzyfestoon on March 15, 2013, 04:49:05 PM I support Snowball's interim role and believe the order of succession could be cited to support this move should it be challenged.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on March 16, 2013, 04:19:47 AM Would this be legally watertight?
Quote 13. The Speaker of the Northeast Legislative Assembly acts as the Presiding Officer of the Northeast Legislative Assembly. He or she organizes votes on legislation and notifies the Representatives of the results of any official vote. The order of succession for this office should the speaker declare a leave of absence, be impeached, resign or fail to be active for three days shall be the longest continuously serving representative, followed by the next longest, and so on. It's to article III section 13 Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on March 16, 2013, 06:09:51 AM I support Snowball's interim role and believe the order of succession could be cited to support this move should it be challenged. I agree. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on March 16, 2013, 06:28:09 AM So who is the longest serving representative? I want some evidence here...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on March 16, 2013, 09:00:41 AM I support Snowball's interim role and believe the order of succession could be cited to support this move should it be challenged. I agree. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on March 16, 2013, 02:05:10 PM Would this be legally watertight? Quote 13. The Speaker of the Northeast Legislative Assembly acts as the Presiding Officer of the Northeast Legislative Assembly. He or she organizes votes on legislation and notifies the Representatives of the results of any official vote. The order of succession for this office should the speaker declare a leave of absence, be impeached, resign or fail to be active for three days shall be the longest continuously serving representative, followed by the next longest, and so on. It's to article III section 13 Just to clarify this is a proposed amendment, not the actual law- I'm not sure if there is anything in the constitution about an absent speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 16, 2013, 02:18:04 PM the problem is the only thing is that the Lt governor can become speaker so...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on March 16, 2013, 03:56:59 PM Would this be legally watertight? Quote 13. The Speaker of the Northeast Legislative Assembly acts as the Presiding Officer of the Northeast Legislative Assembly. He or she organizes votes on legislation and notifies the Representatives of the results of any official vote. The order of succession for this office should the speaker declare a leave of absence, be impeached, resign or fail to be active for three days shall be the longest continuously serving representative, followed by the next longest, and so on. It's to article III section 13 Just to clarify this is a proposed amendment, not the actual law- I'm not sure if there is anything in the constitution about an absent speaker. So Snowball just made up his own procedure and went on his merry way? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 16, 2013, 04:12:33 PM I second Senator Nix's opinion. We need an active Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 16, 2013, 05:16:49 PM Mr. Speaker (if you eventually return), Earthling has been appointed Secretary of Labor and awaits Assembly confirmation.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 16, 2013, 05:40:09 PM Would this be legally watertight? Quote 13. The Speaker of the Northeast Legislative Assembly acts as the Presiding Officer of the Northeast Legislative Assembly. He or she organizes votes on legislation and notifies the Representatives of the results of any official vote. The order of succession for this office should the speaker declare a leave of absence, be impeached, resign or fail to be active for three days shall be the longest continuously serving representative, followed by the next longest, and so on. It's to article III section 13 Just to clarify this is a proposed amendment, not the actual law- I'm not sure if there is anything in the constitution about an absent speaker. So Snowball just made up his own procedure and went on his merry way? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on March 16, 2013, 06:18:10 PM Would this be legally watertight? Quote 13. The Speaker of the Northeast Legislative Assembly acts as the Presiding Officer of the Northeast Legislative Assembly. He or she organizes votes on legislation and notifies the Representatives of the results of any official vote. The order of succession for this office should the speaker declare a leave of absence, be impeached, resign or fail to be active for three days shall be the longest continuously serving representative, followed by the next longest, and so on. It's to article III section 13 Just to clarify this is a proposed amendment, not the actual law- I'm not sure if there is anything in the constitution about an absent speaker. So Snowball just made up his own procedure and went on his merry way? I'm against people posting proposed amendments and acting like they're established protocol. I don't know what we should do and I hoped you were being honest with us but you werent. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on March 17, 2013, 05:22:54 AM I'd like to apologise to all members of the assembly for not being clear enough that this was a proposed amendment. Regardless, if Spenstar is voted out, could one of the representatives introduce this amendment as a bill for me?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on March 17, 2013, 07:23:31 AM sure, by the way I am running for NE speaker seeing as Spenstar has been removed.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 05, 2013, 09:06:12 PM Mr. Speaker, please open debate on the latest executive order ASAP. Thanks.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 14, 2013, 12:30:36 AM Mr. Speaker, please put a vote to any bills due for them (such as the education bill) ASAP. I would like the amendment I proposed to be debated and voted on before the election next week.
Don't fall behind on your duties. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on April 14, 2013, 09:50:43 PM Don't fall behind on your duties. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 14, 2013, 09:53:56 PM Don't fall behind on your duties. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 15, 2013, 09:10:08 PM Do any of you plan on running for reelection? We only have two candidates up so far, with four days until the election.
I hate to sound overly critical, but I really hope the next session goes better than this one. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on April 16, 2013, 09:02:14 PM Do any of you plan on running for reelection? We only have two candidates up so far, with four days until the election. I hate to sound overly critical, but I really hope the next session goes better than this one. Nope. I told you about my situation, and I don't have time right now to be an active and worthwhile contributor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on April 17, 2013, 06:20:27 AM I'm on the fence, I don't have the most time due to school, and I admit I have not done the best job as speaker, but if we need candidates I'll run, but if we have a surplus I might be tempted to drop out and let people more interested get the seat, but I will stay active enough to fulfill the basic duties.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 18, 2013, 04:44:42 PM Next bill, please.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 25, 2013, 02:18:31 PM Mr. LtG, please open the nomination period for Speaker ASAP.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 25, 2013, 02:24:20 PM Point of order.
I must say it really sucks we have various thread shattered all over the board. Once we had two threads, Assembly and introduction, and things were easier to manage and harder to miss. Since now we're doing more than one bill at the time, why not to have just "slot A" and "slot B" threads? Just a thought. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 26, 2013, 06:58:51 AM This session of the northeast assembly is now open. Declarations/nominations for the speakership shall now be open for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on April 26, 2013, 07:06:23 PM I would like to nominate Bore for speaker. Yes, I know we about talked issues with having the Speaker and Lieutenant Governor being the same person, but I think that Bore is the one most qualified to be Speaker and I trust his activity level. :P
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 27, 2013, 07:31:30 AM The nomination/declaration period is now over. All representatives shall now vote for speaker
[] bore [] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on April 27, 2013, 10:25:23 AM [X] bore
[] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 27, 2013, 02:42:50 PM I'm sorry, but we've had enough problems with Lt. Governor being a Speaker at the same time.
[1] Write-in: Goldwater Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 27, 2013, 03:54:49 PM Just to clarify, who is actually a representative- I think its me, goldwater, snowball, poirot (who needs to swear in) and earlaw, although I could be wrong.
Also voting shall last 72 hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on April 27, 2013, 03:59:31 PM Kalwejt swore in so I consider myself on stand by for when he needs to leave for the Senate.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 27, 2013, 04:08:51 PM Kalwejt swore in so I consider myself on stand by for when he needs to leave for the Senate. Gotcha. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 27, 2013, 11:16:09 PM Hello. My write in vote is for Poirot.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 29, 2013, 02:36:04 PM Mr. LtG, if you could call the result?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on April 29, 2013, 02:40:15 PM So its a three way tie?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 29, 2013, 02:42:55 PM Is the voting window not 72 hours?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 29, 2013, 04:05:08 PM [X] bore
I can call the election tomorrow, at about 11/12 o clock northeastern time, but voting will no longer be valid (only applies to snowball) after about 6am northeastern time (I can't do the calculations myself, but 3 days from my opening post). Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 29, 2013, 07:40:20 PM Is the voting window not 72 hours? Sorry. My mistake. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on April 30, 2013, 10:06:01 AM The election is now closed with 4 assemblymen voting
The results are: bore 2 goldwater 1 poirot 1 bore is hereby elected speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 30, 2013, 06:23:44 PM Congratulations. I hope you understand my vote for Goldwater was not against you but because I believe that the two offices should not be held by the same person.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 30, 2013, 09:28:10 PM Congratulations, Speaker bore!
Just for future reference, we skipped over the stem cell research bill. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 01, 2013, 10:16:55 AM Congratulations, Speaker bore! Just for future reference, we skipped over the stem cell research bill. Yeah, sorry about that, once I'd noticed the mistake it was too late to fix it, as the threads had already been commented upon. It will be the next bill on the floor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 19, 2013, 07:12:41 AM At some point soon we need to vote upon the Governor's debate plan. I'll put it up here for a while and then we can hold the vote:
Executive Order #25 A debate to include all Northeast Assembly, gubernatorial, and senatorial candidates will be held from June 13-20th. The debate style shall be as follows: Both Northeast and non-Northeast citizens will ask questions in a special 'question thread' and specify which candidate (or candidates) is being asked. Candidates will be allowed to answer, offer rebuttals, and ask each other questions throughout the debate. On June 20th, candidates will deliver closing statements. This debate will take place at Boston College in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts. This executive order will go into effect upon Assembly confirmation. () Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 21, 2013, 04:52:11 AM If there are no comments on this debate then we'll have a vote in a day.
Also, there are no more bills in the legislation introduction thread, so, if anyone wants to introduce one, now is the time. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 22, 2013, 03:02:39 PM If there are no comments on this debate then we'll have a vote in a day. Also, there are no more bills in the legislation introduction thread, so, if anyone wants to introduce one, now is the time. This can't be emphasised enough. Anyway, I think its time to put this for a vote. Voting shall last 72 hours or until all representatives have voted. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 23, 2013, 09:24:01 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Northeast Rep Snowball on May 23, 2013, 11:51:38 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on May 24, 2013, 01:05:18 PM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 26, 2013, 10:51:39 AM Just an FYI: an infrastructure bill will be introduced as soon as I get the necessary figures from the GM. It would be appreciated if more of our Reps wrote some more legislation, though.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on May 26, 2013, 01:29:25 PM With 3 ayes the bill passes.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 01, 2013, 11:15:25 AM Okay, it's time to start this assembly session. The first thing we should do is elect a Speaker. I would like to nominate Bore for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on July 01, 2013, 12:41:26 PM There was a separate thread started for the election of speaker for the upcoming session.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175513.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175513.0) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on July 01, 2013, 01:21:32 PM There was a separate thread started for the election of speaker for the upcoming session. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175513.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175513.0) Goldwater, the Lt Gov, has jurisdiction here. I prefer that he does it. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 01, 2013, 01:27:27 PM Oh, I forgot to mention that the nomination period will last 24 hours. Sorry about being so late with all of this, I was busy and actually forgot I was elected Lt. Governor. :P
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 02, 2013, 11:19:08 AM The nomination period has ended. Voting will last 72 hours, or until all representatives have voted.
Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [ ] bore [ ] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 02, 2013, 11:28:18 AM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[X] bore [ ] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on July 02, 2013, 11:40:21 AM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [X] bore [ ] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 02, 2013, 01:09:56 PM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[X] bore [ ] write in Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 05, 2013, 03:40:49 PM Well, this is a good sign for future activity levels...
Bore has been elected Speaker of the Assembly. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on July 22, 2013, 04:25:02 AM Right folks, I'm just about to leave you, for the time being, before I do though, I've got a few things to say:
Firstly, thank you to sirnick, a person, goldwater and earl for making this session of the assembly more active than the last. A special thanks to sirnick, who is being a fantastically active governor, and goldwater, who I think was first elected at the same time as me, and has always been an active and valued contributor the assembly. Also thanks to people like Nix, Scott, Poirot, Cincy, simfan etc, who have been role models to me in atlasia. Secondly to move a piece of legislation to the front a vote must be held in this thread, so I'll open that before I go. Thirdly the gun bill has passed the budget is just about to and seeing as there has been no debate on the canada bill I'll open that up for a vote in a second- this should mean that not to much time is wasted and there will be a clean slate for the next speaker to work on. Thanks, Bore Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on July 22, 2013, 04:26:13 AM Motion to move the Supremacy Act to the top of the pile: Representative shal vote aye or nay, voting shall last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on July 22, 2013, 04:32:45 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 22, 2013, 08:42:59 AM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on July 22, 2013, 12:06:04 PM We are also going to need a vote on a new Speaker.
Once the budget vote closes (or any other vote), Snowball will be expelled from the Assembly for missing 3 votes (NE Transit, Undetectable Firearms Act +1 more (Budget?). I've messaged him and the last time he posted was in June to vote for Bore for Speaker. Because Goldwater is Lt. Governor, I would prefer that someone else is Speaker. I would support Earthling or Matt from VT for Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Maxwell on July 22, 2013, 12:09:20 PM Sorry to interupt, but can a non-Northeast resident post Legislation here? I have an idea for a change to the Northeast Cabinet Act that could make things interesting.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on July 22, 2013, 01:05:08 PM Sorry to interupt, but can a non-Northeast resident post Legislation here? I have an idea for a change to the Northeast Cabinet Act that could make things interesting. If you want to post it here sure, then an Assembly member (or myself) could potentially introduce it in the appropriate thread. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Maxwell on July 22, 2013, 01:56:33 PM Sorry to interupt, but can a non-Northeast resident post Legislation here? I have an idea for a change to the Northeast Cabinet Act that could make things interesting. If you want to post it here sure, then an Assembly member (or myself) could potentially introduce it in the appropriate thread. My bad Governor Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on July 22, 2013, 02:03:29 PM Sorry to interupt, but can a non-Northeast resident post Legislation here? I have an idea for a change to the Northeast Cabinet Act that could make things interesting. If you want to post it here sure, then an Assembly member (or myself) could potentially introduce it in the appropriate thread. My bad Governor Well, its cool if you post it, you just can't formally submit it. Someone else has to. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Maxwell on July 22, 2013, 02:07:20 PM Amendment to the Northeast Cabinet Act
Quote A BILL to make the Assembly more interesting while filling positions allotted in said original act. 1. The Governor may also appoint any Northeast Representative to any of the positions, and the Northeast Representative would not be required to leave office. 2. If an Assemblyman is appointed to any of these positions, Section 5 of the act is overridden. Hoping some kind Northeast Rep takes this up. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 22, 2013, 02:11:43 PM Amendment to the Northeast Cabinet Act Quote A BILL to make the Assembly more interesting while filling positions allotted in said original act. 1. The Governor may also appoint any Northeast Representative to any of the positions, and the Northeast Representative would not be required to leave office. 2. If an Assemblyman is appointed to any of these positions, Section 5 of the act is overridden. Hoping some kind Northeast Rep takes this up. Sure! :) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on July 22, 2013, 06:34:42 PM Right folks, I'm just about to leave you, for the time being, before I do though, I've got a few things to say: Firstly, thank you to sirnick, a person, goldwater and earl for making this session of the assembly more active than the last. A special thanks to sirnick, who is being a fantastically active governor, and goldwater, who I think was first elected at the same time as me, and has always been an active and valued contributor the assembly. Also thanks to people like Nix, Scott, Poirot, Cincy, simfan etc, who have been role models to me in atlasia. Secondly to move a piece of legislation to the front a vote must be held in this thread, so I'll open that before I go. Thirdly the gun bill has passed the budget is just about to and seeing as there has been no debate on the canada bill I'll open that up for a vote in a second- this should mean that not to much time is wasted and there will be a clean slate for the next speaker to work on. Thanks, Bore It was pleasant working with you in the assembly when I was there. Good luck in your new job. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 22, 2013, 07:59:33 PM Okay, we need to get stared with electing a new Speaker. We'll start with a 24 hour nomination period.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 22, 2013, 10:23:29 PM I would like to nominate Matt for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on July 23, 2013, 04:44:13 AM I'm certainly willing to be speaker, it seems we need someone at the moment.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 23, 2013, 06:39:05 PM We will now elect our new Speaker. Voting will last 72 hours or until all Representatives have voted.
Northeast Speaker [ ] Matt from VT [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 23, 2013, 06:39:30 PM Northeast Speaker
[X] Matt from VT [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on July 23, 2013, 06:41:27 PM Northeast Speaker
[X] Matt from VT [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Hatman 🍁 on July 23, 2013, 08:08:14 PM Matt's fine.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on July 24, 2013, 05:07:56 AM Northeast Speaker
[X] Matt from VT [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 24, 2013, 08:44:05 AM Northeast Speaker
[X] Matt from VT [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on July 24, 2013, 09:13:20 AM Matt has been elected Speaker of the Northeast Assembly. And this time we were able to elect a Speaker in under 24 hours! :D
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on July 24, 2013, 10:12:59 AM Matt has been elected Speaker of the Northeast Assembly. And this time we were able to elect a Speaker in under 24 hours! :D Success!! Matt, please see that there was a motion to move the Supremacy Act to the front of the docket. It was introduced as a result of the Bore-Matt from VT Special Senate election, so it is very relevant that we get this passed quickly so we don't have similar problems in the future. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on July 24, 2013, 12:44:53 PM Matt has been elected Speaker of the Northeast Assembly. And this time we were able to elect a Speaker in under 24 hours! :D Success!! Matt, please see that there was a motion to move the Supremacy Act to the front of the docket. It was introduced as a result of the Bore-Matt from VT Special Senate election, so it is very relevant that we get this passed quickly so we don't have similar problems in the future. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on August 13, 2013, 06:41:23 PM The amendment on the Northeast cabinet sent to the voters also changes the lieutenant governor's selection. Instead of being the representatives getting the most votes, the lieutenant governor is selected by the Governor from the representatives.
If the amendment is adopted at election time, will it take effect for the selection of the next lieutenant governor (this election) or the designation of the Lt. governor in two months. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on August 26, 2013, 10:23:08 PM Quote Repeal of the Political Donation Disclosure Act SECTION 1. This bill shall be referred to as the "Repeal the Political Donation Disclosure Act." SECTION 2. Upon passage of this legislation by the Northeast Assembly, the Political Donation Disclosure Act is hereby repealed. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on August 26, 2013, 11:04:50 PM Your Highness, I do believe you might be looking for this (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127652.0) thread. ;)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on August 26, 2013, 11:06:18 PM Your Highness, I do believe you might be looking for this (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127652.0) thread. ;) Ah poop. Thanks! Was trying to catch up on a lot at once Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 29, 2013, 02:42:05 PM I'm not a particularly good bill writer, so I wanted to let everyone know in advance that the legislation I've introduced, I'm perfectly open to amendments from those who are better at bill crafting than I am to clean up any loose ends.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on September 05, 2013, 06:23:02 PM We really need to get a debate going on how to get Northeast election turnout up.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on September 05, 2013, 08:17:11 PM Dude, for the last election I messaged EVERYONE in the Northeast. Everyone. We need more players. I messaged 5+ last weekend, GAworth joined but in the Midwest I think...like I said in my PM to ya'll, I'd like you all to do the same thing...
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on September 19, 2013, 04:47:33 PM On the ReFORM bill, I haven't looked at the acts involved but I wanted to say I don't like seeing 1q (official language ballot act) in there. I was the original sponsor of the bill that morphed into Official language ballot act. I still think it's needed for easy to count and transparency of voting.
Revised-Format Omnibus Repealy Mishmash (ReFORM) Act 1. Following laws are hereby struck out and rendered null and void: (a) Bestiality Criminialization Act (b) Health Insurance Option Restoration Act (c) Northeastern Revitalization Proposal (d) Northeast Free Highway Access Act of 2009 Implementation Bill (e) Northeast illegal immigrant act (f) Northeast Independence Act of 2012 (g) Northeast Medical Savings Account Act (h) Northeast Natural Gas Leasing Act (i) Northeast Pay-to-Play Ban (j) Northeast Region Traffic Camera Limitation Act (k) Northeast Region Voter Act (l) Northeast School Rescue Act (m) Northeast Small Business Incentive Act (n) Northeast Tort Reform Bill (o) Take My License, All That Jive Act (p) The Crime is What Actually Matters Act (q) The Official Ballot Language Act (r) The Public Safety Bill of 2011 2. The Assembly shall meet once a year to review existing statute, after which they shall repeal any part which they deem obsolete, unnecessary, or otherwise bad. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on September 20, 2013, 07:06:05 PM I am going to be forging a bill for the $9 billion stimulus that we will be receiving from the federal government. Accepting suggestions on how we should be appropriating it. I'm predisposed to allocate it towards more infrastructure development.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on September 20, 2013, 07:15:56 PM How much does it cost regionally to send a student to college in the Northeast, because I think we really should pump some money into the schools as well?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on September 20, 2013, 07:22:44 PM How much does it cost regionally to send a student to college in the Northeast, because I think we really should pump some money into the schools as well? However, I categorically will not support via stimulus any bill that is not a one-time expense (aka the program will not be renewed). Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on September 20, 2013, 07:57:22 PM It's already been asked. Actually, it was asked on the basis of me wanting to write a bill for more permanent expenditure rather than by using stimulus money, but if there was something that could be used as a one time expense that we could put some money toward, I was thinking it would be good to look at something for education.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 17, 2013, 10:32:29 AM I motion to bump the Northeast Necessary Use Toll Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127652.msg3903618#msg3903618) to the top of the queue.
Representatives, a vote shall now be open for 24 hours. Please vote: AYE, NAY, or Abstain. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 17, 2013, 10:32:51 AM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on October 17, 2013, 01:22:12 PM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 17, 2013, 02:05:32 PM abstain
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on October 17, 2013, 07:24:41 PM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 18, 2013, 10:25:01 AM By a vote of 3-0-1, the bill will be now take the next available legislative slot.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 18, 2013, 10:29:07 PM Quote The Great Fix Amendment SECTION 1. 1. Article VI Section of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby stricken and removed from the Constitution. SECTION 2. 1. All people, in addition to other inalienable right given to them by this Constitution, shall have the right to privacy. This right is not absolute and can be regulated by the state, however; the People, as outlined in Article VI; Section V of the New Northeast Constitution maintain the right to call a referendum. Representatives, a vote to bump the above legislation to the top of the queue will be open for 24 hours, or until all representatives have voted. Please vote: AYE, NAY, or Abstain. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on October 18, 2013, 10:29:56 PM AYE
Now we can finally get this nonsense sorted out. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on October 18, 2013, 11:57:21 PM AYE, of the love of god AYE!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on October 19, 2013, 08:24:22 AM Matt just fix the quote to say article 6 section 5 up in the first part
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 19, 2013, 04:15:16 PM Matt just fix the quote to say article 6 section 5 up in the first part AYE!! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 20, 2013, 01:51:53 PM aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 20, 2013, 08:48:06 PM By a vote of 4-0, the bill will be bumped to the top of the queue.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 23, 2013, 05:17:17 PM Starting at Midnight, I would like to ask members of the Assembly to vote on who shall be our next Speaker, and for that position, I would like to nominate, and recommend former Northeast Speaker, Alfred F. Jones. I suppose I can open the vote at Midnight and I'll keep it open for 72 hours. (Which is the standard time for this)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on October 24, 2013, 05:25:05 AM I accept the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 24, 2013, 08:40:44 AM All right, Representatives, a vote shall be open for 72 hours, or until all Representatives have voted.
Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot: [ ] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 24, 2013, 08:41:23 AM Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot: [X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on October 24, 2013, 10:11:56 AM Good luck to you all and succes in the new assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on October 24, 2013, 10:37:33 AM Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot:
[X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on October 24, 2013, 11:57:54 AM Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot: [X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on October 24, 2013, 06:15:06 PM Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot:
[X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 25, 2013, 11:09:17 AM Northeast Assembly Speaker Official Ballot: [X] Alfred F. Jones [ ] Write-In:_________________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on October 25, 2013, 02:05:26 PM As the new Speaker/Hand of the King, my first action is to declare that I am the unanimous winner of this vote, which has been finished as all 5 Representatives have voted.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 25, 2013, 02:09:15 PM As the new Speaker/Hand of the King, my first action is to declare that I am the unanimous winner of this vote, which has been finished as all 5 Representatives have voted. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on October 26, 2013, 11:00:04 AM As the new Speaker/Hand of the King, my first action is to declare that I am the unanimous winner of this vote, which has been finished as all 5 Representatives have voted. I would, but I'm not sure which bills in the introduction thread have been debated/passed/whatever, if any. Did we go through all of butafly's crazy bills yet? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on October 26, 2013, 11:04:31 AM As the new Speaker/Hand of the King, my first action is to declare that I am the unanimous winner of this vote, which has been finished as all 5 Representatives have voted. I would, but I'm not sure which bills in the introduction thread have been debated/passed/whatever, if any. Did we go through all of butafly's crazy bills yet? I THINK the illegal immigrant act is the next one up... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on October 26, 2013, 01:47:03 PM Mr. Chief Judicial Officer Dallasfan65 -
Mr. Speaker Alfred F. Jones - Mr. Lieutenant Governor Dr. Cynic - I, SirNick, King in the North and Governor of the Northeast, hereby resign the office of Governor of the Northeast effective immediately. Thank you, SirNick Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on October 26, 2013, 03:13:58 PM As the new Speaker/Hand of the King, my first action is to declare that I am the unanimous winner of this vote, which has been finished as all 5 Representatives have voted. I would, but I'm not sure which bills in the introduction thread have been debated/passed/whatever, if any. Did we go through all of butafly's crazy bills yet? I THINK the illegal immigrant act is the next one up... All right then, I'll start the queue going. Hopefully butafly won't advocate and we can get through his sh**t quickly. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on October 26, 2013, 05:46:09 PM Mr. Warden Doctor Cynic
Mr. Chief Judicial Officer Dallasfan65 Mr. Lord/Speaker Alfred F. Jones Mr. Deputy Warden Goldwater Representative Butafly https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=36934.msg3915857#msg3915857 Gentlemen, it has been a fantastic run, and I'd like to thank you all for serving with me. We accomplished a sh**tload of things that will tremendously benefit our region going forward, and I'd like to thank you all for being so open minded and independent. All the best! Matt Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 03, 2013, 06:06:46 PM We should do something about all of Butafly's bills, because if we don't I'm going to literally kill somebody.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 03, 2013, 06:22:07 PM Butafly's original intent was to get them all repealed in an omnibus, but I vetoed the end result of that legislation. This way, albeit time consuming, is much more fair in terms of being able to debate the merits of legislation. We got around it in the past by just motioning bills to the front of the queue.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on November 03, 2013, 07:13:22 PM The idea to flood the queue with each item piecemeal seems ill-advised, in my opinion. You guys would have been better off just discussing the omnibus in here (without time constraints) and then finally introducing the amended omnibus.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Maxwell on November 03, 2013, 07:22:39 PM The idea to flood the queue with each item piecemeal seems ill-advised, in my opinion. You guys would have been better off just discussing the omnibus in here (without time constraints) and then finally introducing the amended omnibus. That's what we did in the Senate, and it's clearly the best way to go about this. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on November 03, 2013, 07:29:24 PM The idea to flood the queue with each item piecemeal seems ill-advised, in my opinion. You guys would have been better off just discussing the omnibus in here (without time constraints) and then finally introducing the amended omnibus. That's what we did in the Senate, and it's clearly the best way to go about this. The Northeast has (or had) a Protest and Analysis thread similar to the Senate's, but it looks like it got repealed. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 03, 2013, 10:07:41 PM I motion to move this bill to the top of the queue. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127652.msg3927909#msg3927909)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 03, 2013, 10:17:23 PM Are there any objections to the motion?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 04, 2013, 06:18:29 AM All right, then, we shall vote. Representatives will have 24 hours (or until all Representatives have voted) to vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain on the motion.
Aye. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 04, 2013, 04:24:19 PM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on November 04, 2013, 06:27:53 PM AYE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 04, 2013, 11:12:51 PM My lords,
I would like to see some effort now made toward prison reform in the Northeast. I ask the Speaker to open such a debate among you on the topic and hopefully you will be able to bring me a bill that will be satisfactory. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on November 05, 2013, 05:49:14 AM abstain
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 05, 2013, 06:13:50 AM The motion passes 4-0 with one abstention and the bill will be introduced immediately after a legislative slot is opened. Mr. Warden, I shall move such a bill to the top of the queue as soon as I can, of if there is not such a bill pending I shall do my best to write one.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 05, 2013, 01:03:11 PM Well, it seems there is no such bill. Before I begin drafting one, however, what's the current state of our prisons? Same as status quo?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 05, 2013, 01:53:44 PM Well, it seems there is no such bill. Before I begin drafting one, however, what's the current state of our prisons? Same as status quo? There wasn't a bill. I just wanted to see a debate begin to hopefully get the entire Assembly to craft a good bill. So far. I know it was a goal of Sirnick's to work on prison reform, but we never got to it, so I'd like to see us get to it now. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 05, 2013, 02:00:20 PM Well, it seems there is no such bill. Before I begin drafting one, however, what's the current state of our prisons? Same as status quo? There wasn't a bill. I just wanted to see a debate begin to hopefully get the entire Assembly to craft a good bill. So far. I know it was a goal of Sirnick's to work on prison reform, but we never got to it, so I'd like to see us get to it now. It was. I wanted to push rehabilitation over imprisonment in addition to getting rid of mandatory minimums for non-violent crimes, and lowering maximum sentences for non-violent crimes in general. Possibly separate drug courts... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 06, 2013, 06:14:20 AM Well, it seems there is no such bill. Before I begin drafting one, however, what's the current state of our prisons? Same as status quo? There wasn't a bill. I just wanted to see a debate begin to hopefully get the entire Assembly to craft a good bill. So far. I know it was a goal of Sirnick's to work on prison reform, but we never got to it, so I'd like to see us get to it now. It was. I wanted to push rehabilitation over imprisonment in addition to getting rid of mandatory minimums for non-violent crimes, and lowering maximum sentences for non-violent crimes in general. Possibly separate drug courts... What are our current sentencing laws? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 08, 2013, 06:23:15 AM Does anyone know how many votes the various Lords have missed recently?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 08, 2013, 02:13:44 PM Not offhand. Someone usually misses each bill.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 08, 2013, 10:01:48 PM Speaking of bills, what do we do with all of Butafly's bills now that he's gone?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 09, 2013, 12:15:55 AM Speaking of bills, what do we do with all of Butafly's bills now that he's gone? Bills don't have sponsors, they die! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 09, 2013, 07:32:52 AM Speaking of bills, what do we do with all of Butafly's bills now that he's gone? Bills don't have sponsors, they die! So we can skip all this bullsh**t! Yay! I've got Model UN in a few, so I'll introduce the next real bill in a few hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 13, 2013, 10:01:57 PM Hey, I'm sick as a dog, have been since this weekend. I'm on my phone now and can't really do much with the voting booth so would you be able to handle opening the voting for the amendment in the booth and a few other things until I can get back in the swing of things and let everyone know I've got the flu. Thanks. Just received this PM from the Governor, who is unwell and currently unable to fulfil the duties of the office. Per Article 1, Section 12 of the NE Constitution, I will be "Acting Governor" until he returns. Quote If the Governor is temporarily absent (no more than ten days), the Lieutenant Governor may exercise the powers of Governor, excluding the ability to sign or veto legislation. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 17, 2013, 09:11:55 AM Master at Arms, when can we get a new bill in slot 2? I assume slot 1 will remain occupied by the SOAP bill until the Warden takes action on it?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 17, 2013, 04:34:42 PM Seeing as my computer is majorly ed up right now, I hereby resign my position as Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 17, 2013, 07:34:59 PM Very sorry to see you go, Alfred. I hope your computer issues will be resolved soon so you can return to full activity.
Members, please declare your candidacies/nominations here for Speaker. As Acting Governor, I will open a vote strictly twenty-four hours from now. I declare my candidacy for Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on November 17, 2013, 07:47:22 PM I would like to thank the Grand Maester for administering things during my illness. I would like to let you all know that I'm back to resume my duties.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on November 17, 2013, 08:09:33 PM I second the nomination of Talleyrand for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 17, 2013, 09:43:09 PM I declare my candidacy for speaker of the assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 18, 2013, 10:46:56 PM Please remember that the Lieutenant Governor [or Acting Governor] cannot be Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 18, 2013, 11:50:34 PM Please remember that the Lieutenant Governor [or Acting Governor] cannot be Speaker. Is that the case? I recall Spenster and Bore were Speaker and Lt. Governor simultaneously in the past, but I will withdraw my candidacy and back Poirot if the rules have since changed. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 19, 2013, 07:43:43 AM Please remember that the Lieutenant Governor [or Acting Governor] cannot be Speaker. Is that the case? I recall Spenster and Bore were Speaker and Lt. Governor simultaneously in the past, but I will withdraw my candidacy and back Poirot if the rules have since changed. Bore was. So was Spenster (sp) but then we passed an Amendment forbidding that, the Northeast Cabinet Amendment. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 19, 2013, 05:50:40 PM I found the text of the Northeast cabinet amendment that was adopted and voted in referendum:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178179.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178179.0) I see where it says the lieutenant governor is chosen by the governor. I don't see where it says the lieutenant governor can't be speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 19, 2013, 09:05:19 PM I found the text of the Northeast cabinet amendment that was adopted and voted in referendum: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178179.0 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178179.0) I see where it says the lieutenant governor is chosen by the governor. I don't see where it says the lieutenant governor can't be speaker. There is a separate law in that case, Poirot. But its there, trust me. You don't want the sh!tshow of having the same Lt. Gov and Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on November 19, 2013, 09:45:02 PM I will withdraw my candidacy for Speaker and endorse Poirot.
I'll need to update the Wiki soon- it only dates as recently as June in terms of statute. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 19, 2013, 10:00:13 PM I will withdraw my candidacy for Speaker and endorse Poirot. I'll need to update the Wiki soon- it only dates as recently as June in terms of statute. Butafly was updating some stuff...I provided all bills passed/rejected/etc in our Civic update thread thats stickied. I believe Bore or Kaljewt passed the Speaker/Lt Gov fix. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 19, 2013, 10:49:37 PM I have found two bills that contained:
The Lieutenant Governor shall not serve at any other position within the Northeast Government one by kalwejt and one sirnick but one was tabled and the other did not pass. I have found the Improving the chain of command bill which deals with what happens in case of inactivity for offices. https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=172000.msg3702749#msg3702749 It states what happens if the Lt Governor and speaker is the same person and becomes inactive. That was the solution to avoid the assembly being paralysed. I haven't found something that explicitly forbids a person holding the two positions yet. If someone knows the act or amendment, please let us know so we are aware of it. If Talleyrand is not a candidate anymore tomorrow I think we should skip the formal vote and I will post a bill to debate. I think the next one is sponsored by Talleyrand so be ready to advocate for it. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 20, 2013, 05:21:28 PM I've put a new bill of for debate. I think the next one was Animal protection Act. If there were older bills on the waiting list, please point it out.
I think Sirnick was appointed but he still needs to swear in if he wants to vote in the assembly. I have two unresolved issues and if we know the answers it would halp in the future. Does the warden need to sign the soap amendment or the assembly vote is enough? What is the law that would prevent the lieutenant governor from being speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 21, 2013, 11:51:19 AM I was appointed? Where?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on November 21, 2013, 03:11:56 PM Just ftr both the SOAP and the constitution on the wiki are the up to date versions.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 21, 2013, 09:13:02 PM I was appointed? Where? I thought I read it, that there was one still one seat vacant. Perhaps I dreamt it... it is fantasy boards after all! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on November 29, 2013, 10:18:34 PM I have a question on thread topic title for bills. As speaker, do I need to change title line when we are at a vote, I mean write (final vote) in the thread title?
And when the assembly has voted on a bill, do I need to put (ratified) (passed) or (failed) (rejected) at the end of the title line. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on November 30, 2013, 10:45:18 AM I have a question on thread topic title for bills. As speaker, do I need to change title line when we are at a vote, I mean write (final vote) in the thread title? And when the assembly has voted on a bill, do I need to put (ratified) (passed) or (failed) (rejected) at the end of the title line. Yes. That is precedent, regardless its extremely helpful. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: PJ on November 30, 2013, 09:12:19 PM I strongly urge the Northeast to create a regional park system. This has been accomplished in the Pacific, and is currently being considered in the Midwest and IDS.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on December 02, 2013, 09:36:08 AM It's time to open a final vote on a bill but since the election results have been certified I am not sure if I can do it, if my role ends with the election results or until the swearing in of Cincinnatus.
Anywa you will need to choose a new speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on December 02, 2013, 10:08:44 AM I will be a candidate for Speaker of the Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 02, 2013, 10:27:40 PM I nominate Talleyrand for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on December 02, 2013, 10:38:05 PM hmm, isn't the speaker chosen by the assembly so the governor doesn't vote or nominate someone ?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 02, 2013, 10:41:05 PM hmm, isn't the speaker chosen by the assembly so the governor doesn't vote or nominate someone ? Speaker is chosen by the Assembly. I'm unofficially nominating Talleyrand if you want to be technical about it. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 02, 2013, 10:42:37 PM I second the nomination of Talleyrand.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on December 02, 2013, 10:55:21 PM I accept the nomination for the Speakership, and thank the Governor and Lt. Governor for putting forth my name.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on December 04, 2013, 05:17:00 PM Goldwater, could you open a vote on the speakership ASAP so we can get the Assembly running again?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 04, 2013, 06:08:28 PM This is a reoccuring problem, no one knowing who opens the election for Speaker. None of you are to blame, its just a thing. Dallasfan65 proposed during his confirmation hearing that we give him, the CJO, the power to do just that. I've proposed an Amendment based on his suggestion.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on December 04, 2013, 07:30:36 PM The Lieutenant governor opens a new session with the election of speaker. I think that has been done in the past. I don't know if there are rules when it's during the session. It could be added to the lieutenant governor's job.
It might be good to name more than one people, or make it any representative in order of seniority, if a specific person is assigned to do a task. I found the Northeast Assembly Speaker Act (I imagine it's still valid). It could be a place to add precisions on vote proceeding. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 04, 2013, 08:52:07 PM The Lieutenant governor opens a new session with the election of speaker. I think that has been done in the past. I don't know if there are rules when it's during the session. It could be added to the lieutenant governor's job. It might be good to name more than one people, or make it any representative in order of seniority, if a specific person is assigned to do a task. I found the Northeast Assembly Speaker Act (I imagine it's still valid). It could be a place to add precisions on vote proceeding. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act) My Amendment fixes the problem for when the Lieutenant Gov and Speaker were the same person. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 04, 2013, 09:12:47 PM The Lieutenant governor opens a new session with the election of speaker. I think that has been done in the past. I don't know if there are rules when it's during the session. It could be added to the lieutenant governor's job. It might be good to name more than one people, or make it any representative in order of seniority, if a specific person is assigned to do a task. I found the Northeast Assembly Speaker Act (I imagine it's still valid). It could be a place to add precisions on vote proceeding. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act) My Amendment fixes the problem for when the Lieutenant Gov and Speaker were the same person. You're best off attaching this amendment to the SOAP. FTR, precedent suggests that the Lt. Governor would open this vote, as they're technically the head of the Assembly. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 04, 2013, 09:51:59 PM I apologize for opening this late. Voting will last 72 hours, or until all Representatives have voted.
Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [ ] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 04, 2013, 09:52:22 PM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[X] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on December 04, 2013, 10:08:04 PM 1) Talleyrand
2) write-in: Earthling Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on December 05, 2013, 04:22:38 AM I apologize for opening this late. Voting will last 72 hours, or until all Representatives have voted. Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [ ] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Why isn't my name on the ballot? I announced to be a candidate even before you two promoted Talleyrand for the job. I see this as a deliberate attempt by the Governor and the Lieutenant Governor to push their man forward. This hardly democratic. But not that much of a suprise. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 05, 2013, 06:22:52 AM Fight! Fight! Fight!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on December 05, 2013, 07:00:06 AM Fight! Fight! Fight! I don't have anything against Talleyrand, but what the Lieutenant Governor is doing is just bull. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 05, 2013, 09:19:13 AM Fight! Fight! Fight! I don't have anything against Talleyrand, but what the Lieutenant Governor is doing is just bull. Don't be a dick, Goldwater made a simple mistake. There's only five of ya'll its not like we're deceiving the masses here. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on December 05, 2013, 09:43:11 AM It's not democratic either. First he pushes Talleyrand forward and then he makes a ballot with only Talleyrand on it.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 05, 2013, 10:35:21 AM I would support restarting the vote and having it last 48 hours, if this would alleviate any controversy..
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 06, 2013, 02:06:18 AM Shoot, this has been one train wreck after another. Yeah, the voting has been restarted and will last 48 hours or until all Representatives have voted.
Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [ ] Earthling [ ] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 06, 2013, 02:07:00 AM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[2] Earthling [1] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on December 06, 2013, 07:34:32 AM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[2] Earthling [1] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 06, 2013, 05:00:13 PM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[2] Earthling [1] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on December 07, 2013, 08:29:11 AM Thank you Lieutenant Governor.
Speaker of the Northeast Assembly [1] Earthling [2] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 07, 2013, 12:36:01 PM Speaker of the Northeast Assembly
[2] Earthling [1] Talleyrand [ ] Write-in: Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Goldwater on December 08, 2013, 04:33:17 PM Voting has ended. By a vote of 4-1, Talleyrand has been elected Speaker of the Northeast Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on December 19, 2013, 06:31:16 AM I'll be on vacation for the next week and may not have internet, and yes I do recognize that this indicates that I may not be able to post for the remainder of my term. There's a small chance that I might, but the point is that I'm taking a leave of absence indefinitely until either I come back or I leave the Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on December 26, 2013, 03:28:25 PM The new Assembly is in session. Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 26, 2013, 03:50:06 PM The new Assembly is in session. Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker? I will be naming Cincinnatus as Lt Governor shortly. Tonight most likely. Then he'll open a vote for Speaker. The holidays are a hard time to start a new session of the Assembly. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on December 26, 2013, 04:26:05 PM The new Assembly is in session. Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker? I will be naming Cincinnatus as Lt Governor shortly. Tonight most likely. Then he'll open a vote for Speaker. The holidays are a hard time to start a new session of the Assembly. Which is one reason for my Uniform December Election Day Amendment. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 26, 2013, 07:29:59 PM The new Assembly is in session. Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker? I will be naming Cincinnatus as Lt Governor shortly. Tonight most likely. Then he'll open a vote for Speaker. The holidays are a hard time to start a new session of the Assembly. Which is one reason for my Uniform December Election Day Amendment. Its not a bad idea. We'll discuss more when it comes up. I just made the appointments so hopefully Cincinnatus is online soon. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 26, 2013, 09:36:00 PM I wish to thank Governor SirNick for the confidence he has shown in me in appointing me to the Northeast Assembly.
As a former Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Representative, and Speaker, I have a history in this esteemed legislative institution, and I have every confidence, that, together, we, as the representatives of the good people of the Northeast, will be moving this great region forward in their service. I look forward to the debate and the enactment of positive legislation during this term. Congratulations to all those elected. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 26, 2013, 10:37:32 PM (Expressing my views prior to the session opening)
With reference to the Uniform December Election Day Amendment, this amendment makes sense. Due to the holiday season, December is a month where many people are unavailable and have many other engagements. Therefore, special provisions should be made to accommodate these circumstances, such as in this amendment. The only changes I would make would be for clarification, wherever it states his should be changed to his or her, and wherever it states he should be changed to he or she. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on December 27, 2013, 06:16:57 AM Something I only just noticed while I was preparing to update the constitution on the wiki page, is that the great fix amendment doesn't seem to be legally watertight.
Here is a copy of the amendment: Quote The Great Fix Amendment SECTION 1. 1. Article VI Section of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby stricken and removed from the Constitution. SECTION 2. 1. All people, in addition to other inalienable right given to them by this Constitution, shall have the right to privacy. This right is not absolute and can be regulated by the state, however; the People, as outlined in Article VI; Section V of the New Northeast Constitution maintain the right to call a referendum. For one thing it doesn't specify which section of Article VI is stricken, so it could either leave the offending passage in place or strike down the whole bill of rights. Also it's not clear where section 2 is to be inserted, or (to me anyway :P) what the second part (from however) means. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 27, 2013, 08:52:00 AM Assembly members, we will now hold a 24 hour nomination period for Speaker of the Assembly. All nominations will require a second for consideration on the ballot. As Lt. Governor, I can not be nominated.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 27, 2013, 09:07:20 AM Something I only just noticed while I was preparing to update the constitution on the wiki page, is that the great fix amendment doesn't seem to be legally watertight. Here is a copy of the amendment: Quote The Great Fix Amendment SECTION 1. 1. Article VI Section of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby stricken and removed from the Constitution. SECTION 2. 1. All people, in addition to other inalienable right given to them by this Constitution, shall have the right to privacy. This right is not absolute and can be regulated by the state, however; the People, as outlined in Article VI; Section V of the New Northeast Constitution maintain the right to call a referendum. For one thing it doesn't specify which section of Article VI is stricken, so it could either leave the offending passage in place or strike down the whole bill of rights. Also it's not clear where section 2 is to be inserted, or (to me anyway :P) what the second part (from however) means. The quote got screwed up while copying and pasting somewhere. I went around fixing it before people voted ln it...check the referendum. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: bore on December 27, 2013, 09:18:09 AM https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=183145.0
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 27, 2013, 09:37:06 AM https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=183145.0 Ugh. The original: Quote The Great Fix Amendment SECTION 1. 1. Article VI Section 5 of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby stricken and removed from the Constitution. SECTION 2. 1. All people, in addition to other inalienable right given to them by this Constitution, shall have the right to privacy. This right is not absolute and can be regulated by the state, however; the People, as outlined in Article V of the New Northeast Constitution maintain the right to call a referendum. Mr. Speaker, I motion to move this to the top of the docket. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on December 27, 2013, 03:09:42 PM I will run for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on December 27, 2013, 03:11:23 PM I second Cinyc's nomination of himself for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 27, 2013, 04:15:47 PM I second Cinyc's nomination of himself for Speaker. I third it, for the record. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 27, 2013, 06:40:27 PM I'd like to remind all candidates, seconded and potential, that the Standing operating procedures of this Assembly are completely different from previous versions. Keeping this in mind, I think any one of the other four Representatives would excel as Speaker.
In any case, should the newly elected Speaker need assistance regarding proper procedure and law, I think it goes without saying that either the Governor, or myself would gladly help them. Title: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 28, 2013, 04:10:25 PM I suppose we should follow the traditional voting period, even if only one member is actually nominated..
The nomination period is over. A 48 hour voting period for Speaker will now begin. The following candidate(s) are officially nominated; [ ] cinyc Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 28, 2013, 04:10:49 PM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on December 28, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 28, 2013, 08:03:16 PM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on December 29, 2013, 01:44:56 AM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on December 30, 2013, 04:08:56 PM cinyc is elected as Speaker with four votes.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on December 30, 2013, 04:46:47 PM Thank you, Mr. Lt. Governor. We will start debate on the Uniform December Election Day Amendment in a separate NE1 thread within the hour.
Northeast Representatives are encouraged to place their proposed legislation in the proposed legislation thread. I will generally be taking things up in the order proposed for the NE2 slot. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Earthling on January 28, 2014, 09:11:34 AM I am resigning from the Assembly and leaving Atlasia.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on January 28, 2014, 02:19:03 PM I am resigning from the Assembly and leaving Atlasia. That's too bad. Thank you for your service in the Assembly! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on January 28, 2014, 02:55:08 PM I am resigning from the Assembly and leaving Atlasia. That's too bad. Thank you for your service in the Assembly! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on January 28, 2014, 05:35:39 PM That sucks. Good luck with everything, and hopefully you return someday.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on January 28, 2014, 10:52:46 PM Best wishes to you Earthling in whatever path you choose to follow.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 02, 2014, 11:40:24 PM Can someone explain to me the Canadian aspect of the game? I was under the impression that certain Canadian provinces were part of the Northeast, but now it seems that not only does Canada have a government of its own, but that government is, at the present time, somewhat hostile towards Atlasia. What's the deal here?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 07, 2014, 10:39:00 PM When will the next regular Assembly election take place?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 07, 2014, 10:41:08 PM When will the next regular Assembly election take place? February 20/21-23 Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on February 08, 2014, 11:06:27 AM Can someone explain to me the Canadian aspect of the game? I was under the impression that certain Canadian provinces were part of the Northeast, but now it seems that not only does Canada have a government of its own, but that government is, at the present time, somewhat hostile towards Atlasia. What's the deal here? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 08, 2014, 02:33:19 PM There was no merger with Canada. From what I understood at the time, the agreement gave voting rights to Atlasians living in Canadian provinces (each region is matched with some provinces).
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 27, 2014, 12:09:32 AM The last session of the Northeast Assembly is now history. The new session of the Northeast Assembly starts today. Northeast Representatives elected in the recent election are encouraged to swear in using the official swear-in thread on in the Atlas Fantasy Government forum.
I trust our new Governor will name his Lieutenant Governor shortly and we will then commence electing a new Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on February 27, 2014, 02:31:10 AM I trust our new Governor will name his Lieutenant Governor shortly It'd better be someone who will update the wiki this time. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on February 27, 2014, 06:54:04 PM Given that Cincinnatus likely won't be with the Assembly for much of this session, I'm announcing a bit of a shake-up.
I'm appointing Deus Naturae to the Lieutenant Governorship. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 27, 2014, 10:56:06 PM Let the session begin!
Seeing as how all Representatives have sworn in, I will now open a 24-hour nominations period for Speaker of the Assembly. As Lieutenant Governor, I am ineligible for nomination. I'll close the period earlier if a consensus is reached quickly, which I expect it will be. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 27, 2014, 10:56:39 PM I nominate Cinyc for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Cincinnatus on February 27, 2014, 10:57:05 PM I nominate Cinyc for Speaker. Second Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on February 27, 2014, 11:01:18 PM I will support cinyc. :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 27, 2014, 11:03:35 PM I will accept the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 28, 2014, 04:53:26 PM SomebodyWhoExists, would you like to nominate someone else, or do you support Cinyc? The reason I ask is so we can just move to a vote on this.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on February 28, 2014, 06:52:25 PM SomebodyWhoExists, would you like to nominate someone else, or do you support Cinyc? The reason I ask is so we can just move to a vote on this. I support cynic Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 28, 2014, 08:59:12 PM I am now closing the nominations period.
A 48 hour voting period for Speaker will now begin. The following candidate is officially nominated: [ ] cinyc Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on February 28, 2014, 09:00:13 PM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on February 28, 2014, 09:21:19 PM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on February 28, 2014, 09:49:16 PM Cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 28, 2014, 10:03:48 PM [X] cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on March 02, 2014, 09:59:12 PM The voting period is now over.
Cinyc is elected Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on March 02, 2014, 10:30:51 PM Thank you, Mr. Lieutenant Governor. There is currently no legislation in the queue. The Northeast Assembly Legislation Introduction Thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127652.0) is currently on page 3 of the Regional Governments board. It is open for Representatives and others to post new legislation for the Assembly's consideration.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on March 12, 2014, 06:20:45 PM Does anybody know which number session this is?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on March 29, 2014, 05:58:43 PM This is a bit early, but what form of debate do we want to use for the candidates' debate required by the Northeast Debate Act of 2013 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=167380.0)?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 06, 2014, 02:06:46 PM When I'm updating the wiki, should I create new pages for amendments to existing legislation passed by the Assembly, or should I just change the original page (presumably with bold/strikethrough format)? What page should I hyperlink to on the Statute page?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 07, 2014, 03:45:39 PM When I'm updating the wiki, should I create new pages for amendments to existing legislation passed by the Assembly, or should I just change the original page (presumably with bold/strikethrough format)? What page should I hyperlink to on the Statute page? I think the practice has been to amend the existing pages but make a note of it in the Assembly it was amended. example (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Statute#Nineteenth_Assembly) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 07, 2014, 09:36:23 PM Since I just introduced something of a mass repeal, it seems like a good idea for me to lay out basic explanations of my proposed repeals beforehand. For the most part, I selected these laws for repeal because I feel like their function is either unnecessary or redundant (in that it is already covered by another program). Here goes:
1. Northeast Regional Economic Policy and Improvement Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Regional_Economic_Policy_and_Improvement_Act_of_2013) of 2013 - I want to repeal this law because I believe that it's function is served adequately by the Bank of the Northeast, which provides loans. Setting up another separate program for that purpose is a wastes taxpayer funds and creates unnecessary bureaucracy. This program does have another function, in that it allows municipalities to apply for aid for projects deemed necessary for economic growth. Not only do we already have programs that strategically invest in infrastructure developments with the purpose of creating growth (namely the BUILD Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/BUILD_Act) of 2012) but this also allows municipalities to transfer the tax burden of funding local infrastructure from municipal citizens to regional citizens, at no cost to then. 2. Quick-Action Closing Fund Act (http://) of 2013 - First of all, it appears this law was defunded by default, because the funding for it was never renewed (or at least it wasn't renewed in the last regional budget). The law creates a board within the regional Department of Commerce that is mainly tasked with "negotiating for workforce training, capital investments, and other projects to help collaborate with businesses and manufacturers interested in locating or relocating their facilities in the Northeast Region (Section 2, clause 2)." It seems unclear what this means, or what chips this board would using to bargain with. The board also has the authority to create grants and incentives for recently located/relocated businesses. The law implies (though it is not entirely clear on this) that the funding for these incentives will come from the BNE. However, if the BNE has the authority to do this (which, based on my reading of the law that chartered the BNE, seems somewhat dubious) presumably it could so itself without a middleman like the board created by this law. 3. Job Creation and Infrastructure Renewal Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Job_Creation_and_Infrastructure_Renewal_Act) of 2012 - Either this law has not been enforced at all, or it automatically repealed itself a while ago. If someone can provide the necessary regional unemployment statistics to show that the latter should have occurred, I will just edit the Statute page on the wiki to denote that. Otherwise, we might as well just repeal it ourselves. 4. Sbane Windfarm Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Sbane_Windfarm_Act) of 2012 - I don't really care about the first two sections, my main issue with this law are that I doubt its necessity and take issue with some its blatantly corporatist aspects. I see know reason for the regional government to involve itself in wind energy startups by initiating takeovers of 49% of wind farm projects. If a project is sound, it will succeed. I see no reason for us to start running corporate projects and acting as if the regional government were itself a for-profit corporation. Furthermore, I see no reason for the regional government to expend taxpayer funds to subsidize utilities. Is there evidence that utilities require taxpayer assistance to construct energy transmission lines? Again, this another area where I see reason for the regional government to involve itself in what should be a private corporate affair. Finally, since we axed energy subsidies in the last budget, this was de facto defunded (although it is possible that, at least in regard to the subsidized construction of energy transmission lines, the law's purpose was already completed). 5. Northeast Small Business Incentive Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Small_Business_Incentive_Act) of 2010 - This law provides a two-part incentive to small business. It allows to pay employees $7.00 per hour (a violation of federal wage laws) and it grants them a two-year 4% tax rebate (which is pointless now, as their is no regional corporate tax). This law is simply obsolete. 6. Northeastern Green Jobs Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeastern_Green_Jobs_Act) of 2009 - This law sets ridiculous standards. It requires to constantly create "green jobs" until the unemployment rate drops below 5%. This has definitely not been adhered to, and would be ridiculous if it was. The government is simply not capable of creating jobs on such a scale. 7. Northeastern Revitalization Proposal (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeastern_Revitalization_Proposal) of 2006 - This creates a committee (which is supposed to consisted of the Governor and Lieutenant Governor) to allocate money (which has not been specifically allocated to his committee in quite some time). If anyone knows if the Assembly voted against the continuation of this law, just show me so i can denote that on the Statute. Otherwise, we might as well repeal this. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 18, 2014, 06:31:27 PM Since cinyc is leaving us, does anybody have an interest in being Speaker?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 24, 2014, 03:43:58 PM Announcing a post-election shake-up:
I am picking Napoleon as my Lieutenant Governor for this session. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 24, 2014, 08:17:38 PM As the outgoing Lieutenant Governor, I'll open a 24-hour nomination period for Speaker of the Assembly. As the new Lieutenant Governor, Napoleon is ineligible for nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 24, 2014, 09:44:30 PM I'll nominate myself for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on April 24, 2014, 10:06:48 PM I'll nominate SWE for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on April 25, 2014, 01:47:25 PM I'll nominate myself for Speaker. Seconded Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on April 25, 2014, 01:58:50 PM I'll support Deus for Speaker
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: BaconBacon96 on April 25, 2014, 03:55:57 PM I will back Deus for the Speakership.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on April 25, 2014, 05:54:24 PM How boring :P We never have had a proper contest for the job in any of my terms here.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 25, 2014, 07:09:08 PM How boring :P We never have had a proper contest for the job in any of my terms here. I think we've had it contested before, but not in earnest. Anyways, I would be confident with either of these guys as Speaker - both have proposed SOAP amendments in the past (SWE has one in the queue) so I think they'd do fine. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 25, 2014, 07:24:59 PM SWE, I take it you decline the nomination?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on April 25, 2014, 07:33:56 PM SWE, I take it you decline the nomination? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 25, 2014, 07:47:22 PM The nomination period is now over.
A 24-hour voting period for Speaker will now begin. The period will end early if all Representatives have voted. The following candidate is officially nominated: [ ] Deus Naturae Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 25, 2014, 07:47:51 PM [X] Deus Naturae
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on April 25, 2014, 07:52:41 PM [X] Deus Naturae
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on April 25, 2014, 08:40:42 PM Abstain
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on April 25, 2014, 08:41:23 PM Deus
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: BaconBacon96 on April 25, 2014, 11:11:12 PM [X] Deus Naturae
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on April 26, 2014, 02:28:54 PM Announcing a post-election shake-up: I am picking Napoleon as my Lieutenant Governor for this session. Thank you Governor Dallasfan, its truly an honor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Deus Naturae on April 26, 2014, 04:09:16 PM Seeing as how all Representatives have voted, the voting period is no over. By a vote of 4-0-1, Representative Deus is elected Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 26, 2014, 09:22:59 AM Representatives have 24 hours to nominate candidates for Speaker of the Northeast Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 26, 2014, 07:44:49 PM I nominate SWE for Speaker
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on June 26, 2014, 07:50:36 PM Out of curiosity, who would perform the role of Speaker if the Speaker took a leave of absence?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on June 26, 2014, 07:52:21 PM Out of curiosity, who would perform the role of Speaker if the Speaker took a leave of absence? The most senior Representative other than the Speaker or LG, I'd assume. At least from the order of precedence. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on June 26, 2014, 07:58:41 PM In that case, I'll accept
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 26, 2014, 09:36:50 PM I will support someone who exists. If the speaker doesn't exist, then we are f--ked.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 27, 2014, 12:52:00 PM A vote is now open for the Speaker position. 48 hours.
[ ] Someone Who Exists [ ] Write in _____________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on June 27, 2014, 03:53:21 PM [1] Someone Who Exists
[ ] Write in _____________ Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: BaconBacon96 on June 27, 2014, 10:16:21 PM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 28, 2014, 12:16:02 AM Someone Who Exists
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on June 28, 2014, 12:16:51 PM is it done on purpose to use someone instead of somebody in the name ??
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on June 28, 2014, 03:07:16 PM 1. SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 28, 2014, 04:43:15 PM is it done on purpose to use someone instead of somebody in the name ?? No. I also listed alfred e jones on a ballot instead of alfred f jones a few years ago. Not my strong suit. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 28, 2014, 04:46:09 PM 1. SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on June 28, 2014, 04:47:45 PM As all members have voted, the voting period is over. Congratulations Speaker SomebodyWhoExists.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on June 29, 2014, 03:49:23 PM As part of an effort to update information regarding the Northeast on the Wiki, the following pages have been edited or created:
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Region https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Statute#Twenty-Fifth_Assembly https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Statute#Twenty-Sixth_Assembly https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Governor https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Lt_Governor https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/SomebodyWhoExists https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/BaconBacon96 https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Rpryor03 There is obviously much more to be done, and I will be working on it in the coming days, but I'd thought I'd let you all know of the current progress. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on June 29, 2014, 07:46:28 PM Thank you very much Barnes.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on July 07, 2014, 07:59:55 PM I don't think a polling booth should be opened right now for a constituional amendment. If the constitution text on the wiki has the valid text for this, it says:
Except in December,the appropriate election administrator shall open the polling booth for all proposed Amendments approved by the Legislative Assembly before 12:00:00am EST of the second Friday of a month between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the Thursday preceding the penultimate Friday of the same month and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the penultimate Friday itself. Except in November or December, So maybe it should be July 18 ? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on August 31, 2014, 09:37:58 AM Alright bitches. You have 24 hours to do nominate someone for the speaker position. Let this glorious new era of anarachy COMMENCE!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on August 31, 2014, 11:53:52 AM I nominate SWE.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on August 31, 2014, 07:09:21 PM I second SWE.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on September 01, 2014, 04:53:20 PM I'll accept the nomination
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on September 01, 2014, 06:30:01 PM I move for UC on the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on September 01, 2014, 07:05:21 PM I move for UC on the nomination. Do we have a provision for Unanimous Consent in the SOAP? Regardless, it'd only be saving a few hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Talleyrand on September 02, 2014, 02:35:22 PM Since we're already past time for nominations, we might as well do a quick election and get it over with, although perhaps we need to look into UC for future reference.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on September 02, 2014, 11:37:49 PM Northeast Speaker Official Ballot:
[ ] SomebodyWhoExists (Labor - New York) [ ] Write-in: _____________ Voting is now open Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on September 03, 2014, 12:27:24 AM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on September 03, 2014, 01:08:32 AM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on September 03, 2014, 08:37:26 AM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on September 03, 2014, 01:31:00 PM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on September 03, 2014, 08:30:07 PM [1] SWE
With all representatives having voted. Speaker SomebodyWhoExists has been unanimously reelected to the position of Speaker. As Lieutenant Governor, I hereby certify the results as being valid. x MattVT Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on October 05, 2014, 11:24:21 AM The NE Assembly will be meeting in Dover, Delaware until further notice for the safety of its representatives
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on October 30, 2014, 09:54:03 AM I hereby open this session of the Northeast Assembly! I remind all members to take the oath before taking their seats.
We will proceed to the election of Speaker. Nominations will now be open for twenty-four hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on October 30, 2014, 10:22:48 AM I nominate Somebody Who Exists.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on October 30, 2014, 10:23:31 AM I nominate rpryor03.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on October 30, 2014, 02:15:05 PM I accept the nomination
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on October 30, 2014, 02:29:34 PM I decline in favor of SWE.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on October 30, 2014, 05:29:24 PM The NE Assembly will be meeting in Dover, Delaware until further notice for the safety of its representatives With the crisis now resolved, this order is rescinded with immediate effect. The Assembly shall resume its normal residence in New York City. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on October 31, 2014, 10:44:47 AM Nominations are now closed. Voting will now commence for twenty-four hours, or until all members have voted, whichever is sooner.
Speaker [ ] SomebodyWhoExists Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on October 31, 2014, 11:49:53 AM Speaker
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Napoleon on October 31, 2014, 12:49:34 PM swe Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on October 31, 2014, 01:29:11 PM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: rpryor03 on October 31, 2014, 03:56:24 PM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on October 31, 2014, 05:55:49 PM SWE
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on October 31, 2014, 07:56:39 PM Abstain
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on October 31, 2014, 09:07:08 PM SomebodyWhoExists is elected Speaker. I turn the chair over to you, Mr. Speaker. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 17, 2014, 12:29:34 AM I introduce the following amendment to Standing Orders: Quote The following shall be listed following the section entitled Legislative Debates and Voting, and all subsequent sections renumbered accordingly. Non-Sitting Days 1. In reckoning the sitting days of the Assembly, the following dates shall be Non-Sitting Days:
3. A Non-Sitting Day shall be defined as a day not counted in the official duration of debates, votes, and other business of the Assembly. A member shall be entitled to speak in any open business of the Assembly on a Non-Sitting Day. I move that Standing Orders be suspended and this bill be brought to the top of the queue. The reason is that the Christmas holidays are quickly approaching, and this bill directly addresses the problems associated with holding business over that period. Per the SOAP, a 24 hour vote on this motion to suspend the Standing Order should begin immediately. Aye. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 18, 2014, 12:10:43 AM ^ It appears that this motion will not aquire the requisite absolute majority of members nessecary, which I feel is a shame, but oh well, we have other business to attend to.
As Lieutenant Governor, I hereby declare this session of the Northeast Assembly open! The first order of business will be to elect the speaker. Nominations will be open for 24 hours; a member may only nominate one member (including their self), and any member nominated must accept the nomination. I remind all members that they must take the oath before assuming their seat. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 18, 2014, 10:34:13 AM Mr. Lieutenant Governor, could you not re-introduce this amendment for the vote on the amendment for Non-Sitting Days?
I believe it is important that these dates become non-sitting days. I will certainly vote aye on this amendment should the amendment be re-introduced. I believe the other Representatives have simply not yet checked into the Assembly thread, otherwise, I am sure this amendment would receive unanimous support. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 18, 2014, 10:40:33 AM I nominate SirNick for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 18, 2014, 01:41:42 PM The bill is still in the queue, but I will certainly introduce a motion to bring it to the top once we're done electing the Speaker. :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 18, 2014, 06:01:01 PM I'll accept the nomination for Speaker, although I'll have to pay closer attention to ze rules
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on December 18, 2014, 08:15:21 PM I would like to nominate Winfield for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 18, 2014, 08:27:01 PM I would like to nominate Winfield for Speaker. Thank you very much. I am honored, however, I respectfully decline the nomination. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 19, 2014, 12:16:49 AM In accordance with Standing Orders, seeing as Sirnick is the only nominated member, he has been elected Speaker. Congratulations, Mr. Speaker, and I now turn the chair of the Assembly over to you!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 19, 2014, 12:22:16 AM I introduce the following amendment to Standing Orders: Quote The following shall be listed following the section entitled Legislative Debates and Voting, and all subsequent sections renumbered accordingly. Non-Sitting Days 1. In reckoning the sitting days of the Assembly, the following dates shall be Non-Sitting Days:
3. A Non-Sitting Day shall be defined as a day not counted in the official duration of debates, votes, and other business of the Assembly. A member shall be entitled to speak in any open business of the Assembly on a Non-Sitting Day. I move that Standing Orders be suspended and this bill be brought to the top of the queue. The reason is that the Christmas holidays are quickly approaching, and this bill directly addresses the problems associated with holding business over that period. Per the SOAP, a 24 hour vote on this motion to suspend the Standing Order should begin immediately. Aye. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on December 19, 2014, 10:36:12 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 19, 2014, 10:51:43 AM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on December 19, 2014, 08:41:47 PM Aye
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 20, 2014, 01:22:02 PM I appreciate the Assembly supporting this motion. The next open slot for legislation should be filled with this bill.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 21, 2014, 09:04:49 AM Is the Lt Gov going to open a vote for Speaker?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: sentinel on December 21, 2014, 09:07:54 AM Is the Lt Gov going to open a vote for Speaker? Missed the post where I was elected, normally even with one nominee we still go through the voting process. I'll get on to being Speaker later today Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on December 21, 2014, 01:45:51 PM Is the Lt Gov going to open a vote for Speaker? Missed the post where I was elected, normally even with one nominee we still go through the voting process. I'll get on to being Speaker later today The rules were changed two months ago to allow for an immediate election if only one person nominated. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on January 04, 2015, 01:18:15 AM I would like to take just a moment to bid adieu to my colleagues in the Assembly. Until quite recently, I have thoroughly enjoyed being a member of this body, and I wish all of luck going forward. I hope that the reasons for my resignation will persuade members to adopt more constructive and conciliatory methods of debate. See you all around. :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on January 06, 2015, 12:41:38 PM I would like to take just a moment to bid adieu to my colleagues in the Assembly. Until quite recently, I have thoroughly enjoyed being a member of this body, and I wish all of luck going forward. I hope that the reasons for my resignation will persuade members to adopt more constructive and conciliatory methods of debate. See you all around. :) Barnes, I am sorry to see you resign from the Assembly under these unfortunate circumstances, and would, at this time, like to personally thank you for your service to the Northeast and to Atlasia. I would much rather that the Assembly could have worked out differences amicably rather than acrimoniously. I have to say that I feel as responsible as anyone for this situation, and for that I am sorry. However, of late, debate, discussion, and statements in the Assembly, from various individuals, myself and others, have been less than admirable. I am hopeful that we in the Assembly can work out our differences in a mutually acceptable and agreeable way. In the meanwhile, all the best to you in your future endeavors. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 03, 2015, 08:28:55 PM The Speaker has deregistered. Under the SOAP, the Lt. Governor needs to open up nominations for Speaker. He can't run in the election.
Mr. Lt. Governor, please do the honors. Also, what happened to the posts with our most recent legislation. Was it deleted? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on February 03, 2015, 08:40:02 PM The Speaker has deregistered. Under the SOAP, the Lt. Governor needs to open up nominations for Speaker. He can't run in the election. Mr. Lt. Governor, please do the honors. Also, what happened to the posts with our most recent legislation. Was it deleted? I would request we wait until SirNick's replacement is appointed - I have a few people lined up and am waiting on a response. I'm sure it will be quick. As for the debate? Seems like Nick deleted everything on his way out. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 03, 2015, 09:47:43 PM The Speaker has deregistered. Under the SOAP, the Lt. Governor needs to open up nominations for Speaker. He can't run in the election. Mr. Lt. Governor, please do the honors. Also, what happened to the posts with our most recent legislation. Was it deleted? I would request we wait until SirNick's replacement is appointed - I have a few people lined up and am waiting on a response. I'm sure it will be quick. As for the debate? Seems like Nick deleted everything on his way out. Is there any way we can get the posts back? Perhaps one of the mods can help. The SOAP says, "At the beginning of each term of the Assembly, and at any time when the office is vacant, the first order of business of the Assembly shall be to elect the Speaker." In other words, we can't do anything until we elect another speaker. Please be quick or we'll have to move on without you. I think your appointment is permanent this time, as it is February. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on February 03, 2015, 10:11:13 PM The Speaker has deregistered. Under the SOAP, the Lt. Governor needs to open up nominations for Speaker. He can't run in the election. Mr. Lt. Governor, please do the honors. Also, what happened to the posts with our most recent legislation. Was it deleted? I would request we wait until SirNick's replacement is appointed - I have a few people lined up and am waiting on a response. I'm sure it will be quick. As for the debate? Seems like Nick deleted everything on his way out. Is there any way we can get the posts back? Perhaps one of the mods can help. The SOAP says, "At the beginning of each term of the Assembly, and at any time when the office is vacant, the first order of business of the Assembly shall be to elect the Speaker." In other words, we can't do anything until we elect another speaker. Please be quick or we'll have to move on without you. I think your appointment is permanent this time, as it is February. I'm fully aware. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 04, 2015, 11:17:06 PM Matt has resigned as Lieutenant Governor.
Should I open up the vote for Speaker nominations, since it appears that I am authorized to do so? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on February 04, 2015, 11:18:34 PM Matt has resigned as Lieutenant Governor. Should I open up the vote for Speaker nominations, since it appears that I am authorized to do so? Yes. You've been here the longest. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 04, 2015, 11:20:14 PM Alright, here we go.
You have 24 hours to nominate individuals for the position of Speaker of the Northeast Assembly. Nominations shall commence immediately. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 04, 2015, 11:21:27 PM I nominate cinyc of New York.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 04, 2015, 11:23:59 PM I respectfully decline the nomination.
I nominate Matt From VT. He told me he wants the job. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on February 04, 2015, 11:26:22 PM I accept the nomination, Mr. Cinyc
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 05, 2015, 01:43:45 PM When do we have the vote on speaker?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 05, 2015, 02:40:12 PM When do we have the vote on speaker? After the 24 hour nomination period has passed - but only if there is more than one nominee. Otherwise, the sole nominee becomes speaker without a vote. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on February 05, 2015, 10:56:48 PM Also worth noting that the bills being debated/voted on at the time SirNick deleted them were:
NE1: Restoration of the Arts Act NE2: Responsible Drinking and Driving Act NE3: Amendment to the Northeast Public Intoxication Act The Number Three Act was also tabled, so it should not be introduced next go-around. If anyone wants to archive any of the passed bills that I signed, all of them are located in my office. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 05, 2015, 11:29:18 PM 24 hours have passed. You may now vote for a Speaker.
Official Ballot: [ ] Matt from VT (The People's Party - Vermont) [ ] Write-in: _____________ [ ] Abstain Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 05, 2015, 11:33:51 PM Abstain
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 05, 2015, 11:41:18 PM Unless the version of the SOAP that's on the Wiki has been subsequently amended but not updated on the Wiki, there's no need for an election.
Role of Speaker Section 5 states: "At the close of nominations, if only one member has been nominated, he shall immediately be declared to have been elected." Only one member has been nominated. So Matt should be declared elected Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SNJ1985 on February 06, 2015, 11:47:04 AM In accordance with the SOAP; I declare that Matt from VT of Vermont has been elected Speaker of the Northeast Assembly, as he was the only nominated candidate.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Sopranos Republican on February 07, 2015, 07:44:14 PM Thank you, my dear friends! It would appear that the former speaker went down the unfortunate route of deleting all of the recent debate threads. As soon as I figure out where we are in terms of bills, then we can get back to work.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 07, 2015, 11:16:52 PM Thank you, my dear friends! It would appear that the former speaker went down the unfortunate route of deleting all of the recent debate threads. As soon as I figure out where we are in terms of bills, then we can get back to work. See Governor Sawx's post above. There were three bills on the floor when the purge began. You should start there. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 24, 2015, 05:12:32 PM Should the Assembly start up again now we've got new members in
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 25, 2015, 02:19:21 PM Should the Assembly start up again now we've got new members in The new Assembly convenes tomorrow. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 26, 2015, 06:52:18 PM I am out of a job because the new Assembly is now in session. Elected officials should swear in again on the swear-in thread, even if they did it last session. Good luck to the new Assembly!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on February 27, 2015, 11:57:40 AM Have we started this term then...?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 27, 2015, 12:31:44 PM The new session should start. Those elected in the election could swear in starting Thursday.
The first thing to do for the assembly is elect a Speaker. That election is usually run by the Lieutenant Governor. I don't think that has been announced yet and the Lt Governor swear in. For reference, this is what the SOAP on the wiki says about the Speaker's election. Quote At the beginning of each term of the Assembly, and at any time when the office is vacant, the first order of business of the Assembly shall be to elect the Speaker. The Lieutenant Governor shall preside over the election, but he may neither be nominated for, nor be elected as, Speaker. In the case of the absence of the Lieutenant Governor, the member with the longest continuous period of service shall conduct the election. Nominations shall be open for a period of twenty-four (24) hours. A member may nominate no more that one member. Any member nominated must declare their acceptance of the nomination to be listed on the ballot. At the close of nominations, if only one member has been nominated, he shall immediately be declared to have been elected. If, however, two or more members have been nominated, an election shall immediately be held by optional preference IRV. Only members officially nominated shall be listed on the ballot - write-in votes shall not be permitted. The election shall conclude after a period of twenty-four (24) hours, or after all members have voted, whichever is sooner. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on February 27, 2015, 03:23:33 PM EDIT: Matt's going through some personal, real life issues right now, so he won't be running (so consider this kind of an LOA in his stead). I don't want to pick a Lieutenant Governor just yet because I don't want to shut someone who wants to run out of the Speakership.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Adam Griffin on February 27, 2015, 03:48:04 PM Do you want me/can I open the nomination as Speaker as outgoing LG, or am I already gone?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on February 27, 2015, 04:34:03 PM If we're nominating for speaker - I'll nominate Blair. He seems willing to do it and it should bring stability to the Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 27, 2015, 04:59:43 PM If we're nominating for speaker - I'll nominate Blair. He seems willing to do it and it should bring stability to the Assembly. Thanks Clyde. I accept the nomination for speaker, and would be happy to carry out the role Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Barnes on February 27, 2015, 05:13:24 PM Since I wrote the current rules on the Speakership election I thought I'd chime in to help.
If Matt is the longest continually serving representative (as I believe he is, but correct me if I am wrong), he can preside over the election. If he's on a LOA, then the second longest continually serving member can preside over the election. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 27, 2015, 06:36:30 PM The second longest continuing serving member would be Blair since I believe he was the only other representative serving just before the election. So I guess that would be for him to open the 24 hour nomination process for speaker (and nominate himself).
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 27, 2015, 11:09:06 PM I will be supporting Blair for Speaker when the election for Speaker is held.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 28, 2015, 03:52:41 AM Haha it feels slightly Nixon like having to open my own election.
Since Matt has been given a LOA submitted through Governor Sawx I hereby open the nomination Process. It will last for 24 hours Clyde has nominated me, and I accept. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on February 28, 2015, 05:05:19 PM I support Blair.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on March 01, 2015, 03:57:41 AM 24 hours has now passed, and since no other names have been nominated I hereby declared that Blair has been elected as Speaker to the Northeast Assembly, and shall assume the position as of now
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on March 01, 2015, 03:51:10 PM 24 hours has now passed, and since no other names have been nominated I hereby declared that Blair has been elected as Speaker to the Northeast Assembly, and shall assume the position as of now Does that feel awkward, Representative Blair declares Representative Blair as Speaker Blair? :) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on March 01, 2015, 04:42:07 PM 24 hours has now passed, and since no other names have been nominated I hereby declared that Blair has been elected as Speaker to the Northeast Assembly, and shall assume the position as of now Does that feel awkward, Representative Blair declares Representative Blair as Speaker Blair? :) () Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on March 31, 2015, 01:27:46 PM Been fun serving with you all, good luck :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on March 31, 2015, 06:28:23 PM ...So do I need to open an election for speaker?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on March 31, 2015, 07:10:05 PM Yeah, you do.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on March 31, 2015, 07:30:54 PM Ok. Nominations for Speaker are open for 24 hours (until 8:30 PM on April 1).
(On the topic of speaker, Matt should be the temporary Speaker, but considering he's on a LOA, I'm not sure who has the position currently, considering seniority for Clyde and Winfield are equal for the current term.) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on March 31, 2015, 07:53:00 PM In the Senate it is who swore in first.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on April 01, 2015, 12:19:21 AM In the Senate it is who swore in first. So that would be Clyde. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on April 01, 2015, 10:53:52 AM If nominated, I shall not run.
If elected, I shall not serve. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 01, 2015, 01:46:21 PM Although I am new, I am willing to serve.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on April 01, 2015, 07:02:53 PM I nominate dkrol.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 01, 2015, 07:07:02 PM I accept said nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on April 01, 2015, 08:03:04 PM Nominations are closed. Members have 24 hours to vote for a Speaker (until 9:03, April 2)
Ballot: [ ] dkrol Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 01, 2015, 08:53:53 PM Ballot:
[ 1 ] dkrol Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on April 01, 2015, 11:27:25 PM Nominations are closed. Members have 24 hours to vote for a Speaker (until 9:03, April 2) Ballot: [ ] dkrol If only one person is nominated, there is no need for a vote. That person is automatically named Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on April 02, 2015, 11:46:19 AM I'm happy for dkrol to become speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 02, 2015, 03:36:09 PM Thank you all for your support. I look forward to working with you all.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on April 23, 2015, 09:06:28 PM With the opening of the new Assembly, nominations for Speaker will open for 24 hours.
I nominate dkrol. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 23, 2015, 10:45:58 PM I accept the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Prince of Salem on April 23, 2015, 11:38:47 PM I'll support DKrol for Speaker :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on April 24, 2015, 10:04:52 AM I'll support DKrol for Speaker :) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Dr. Cynic on April 24, 2015, 12:19:26 PM I'm fine with him as Speaker. He wants the job, let him have it.
Though, this happens rather frequently. Every time, bar once or twice, I've been here, it's always a seemingly one horse race for the job. We need to at some point think about at least having a proper contest at some point. :P Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on April 25, 2015, 07:14:41 AM I thank the Assembly for their confidence in me.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on April 25, 2015, 08:49:44 PM Congratulations to dkrol for winning! (I'm really sorry about not being able to close the booth on time. Finals+other things are being a strain.)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 10, 2015, 11:03:22 PM Does anyone know where the current version of the SOAP is? I want to put in the Civic Information Thread, but I can't find a complete, updated version since bore made his amendments.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on June 11, 2015, 05:00:34 AM Does anyone know where the current version of the SOAP is? I want to put in the Civic Information Thread, but I can't find a complete, updated version since bore made his amendments. I'm not sure if any amendments have been made since this was last updated. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on June 17, 2015, 07:36:50 PM I do not have access to a computer until tomorrow afternoon. I encourage the longest serving Representative to step in and handle the outstanding matters until that time.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 24, 2015, 06:43:07 PM Is everyone fine with me not opening the Speaker election until Monday (or before if we have 4 people in the Assembly) considering RGN's loa and whatever's going on with twistory?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on June 24, 2015, 06:47:54 PM sure
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The Other Castro on June 24, 2015, 07:11:26 PM Twistory will not be taking office, and there will be a special election to fill his seat. In the meantime, it's just the four of us, so I'm fine with waiting for RGN.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: free my dawg on June 25, 2015, 01:32:47 PM I've appointed DemPGH to serve, so we'll have five.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 25, 2015, 10:38:57 PM I've appointed DemPGH to serve, so we'll have five. Ok. I'll start nominations when he swears in. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 27, 2015, 01:38:21 PM With PGH swearing in, nominations for Speaker will now be open for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 27, 2015, 09:59:39 PM I nominate Castro.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The Other Castro on June 28, 2015, 12:14:05 PM I accept the nomination, thank you pikachu.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 28, 2015, 01:45:02 PM It looks as if Castro has won the Speakership.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The Other Castro on June 29, 2015, 12:51:06 PM Well, that was a tough race. So, is the session open now or are we waiting for RGN?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on June 29, 2015, 12:55:54 PM The session's open, and RGN's leave ends today regardless.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on June 29, 2015, 10:31:55 PM Unfortunately, the proposed Amendment to the Constitution (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=213034.0) passed by the last Assembly wasn't put up for a vote in the June elections. In order to make sure that we satisfy the Northeast Constitution, somebody probably needs to re-propose it and the Assembly needs to revote on it. If this is done before July 10, the referendum should be put to the voters July 24-26, under my reading of the Northeast Constitution. And it probably should have a better name this time - Assembly Inactivity Amendment or something like that, perhaps?
If the Governor or one of the Northeast Representatives doesn't place this into the queue, I will consider doing so by citizen initiative. Thanks. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: The Other Castro on July 03, 2015, 01:12:07 PM As tomorrow is July 4th, it will be counted as a non-sitting day. Although members of the Assembly may still participate in open business, tomorrow shall not be counted in determining the duration of debates and votes. Have a happy Fourth of July everyone!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 09, 2015, 11:01:42 AM we need a new speaker, guys. i'm not quite sure who's supposed to open the vote, but i'll run.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on July 09, 2015, 12:40:56 PM To refresh memories about election of Speaker, this is from the Role of Speaker part in the SOAP.
Quote 2. At the beginning of each term of the Assembly, and at any time when the office is vacant, the first order of business of the Assembly shall be to elect the Speaker. 3. The Lieutenant Governor shall preside over the election, but he may neither be nominated for, nor be elected as, Speaker. In the case of the absence of the Lieutenant Governor, the member with the longest continuous period of service shall conduct the election. 4. Nominations shall be open for a period of twenty-four (24) hours. A member may nominate no more that one member. Any member nominated must declare their acceptance of the nomination to be listed on the ballot. 5. At the close of nominations, if only one member has been nominated, he shall immediately be declared to have been elected. 6. If, however, two or more members have been nominated, an election shall immediately be held by optional preference IRV. Only members officially nominated shall be listed on the ballot - write-in votes shall not be permitted. The election shall conclude after a period of twenty-four (24) hours, or after all members have voted, whichever is sooner. 7. The Lieutenant Governor shall certify the results following the election, and the Speaker shall immediately assume office. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on July 09, 2015, 06:12:20 PM sorry, I've been away for the last 3 days for freshman orientation, but yeah nominations are open for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on July 10, 2015, 01:04:45 PM I nominate evergreen
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 10, 2015, 01:05:08 PM i accept the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on July 11, 2015, 01:22:05 AM Congratulations to Speaker evergreen!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 11, 2015, 06:32:36 AM thank you.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on July 14, 2015, 07:29:04 PM Governor Sawx has nominated me to the vacant CJO post. The Assembly must vote to confirm. I think traditionally, the Assembly has held a hearing to question the CJO, usually in a separate post. I would be more than happy to answer your questions.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Adam Griffin on July 17, 2015, 07:40:53 PM As Registrar General, I hereby inform you that the Governor of the Northeast is no longer a registered voter in Atlasia. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on July 29, 2015, 05:48:58 PM Hi
New Assemblyman. I was appointed by pikachu to fill the vacancy now that he's governor. I plan on running for a full term on Friday. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on July 29, 2015, 07:44:50 PM welcome!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 12, 2015, 06:20:12 PM Most of you know me, for better or for worse. :)
Governor Pikachu has asked me to serve in the Assembly until the end of this term to fill the vacancy that exists, and I have accepted. It is a privilege for me to continue my work as a servant of the people of the Northeast. I look forward to working with each of you. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 15, 2015, 11:07:01 AM Is anything happening in the Northeast Assembly?
Since my appointment August 12 to fill in the rest of the term because of a vacancy, I have been checking in every day, more than once a day, and there is nothing going on in the Assembly. Is it going to be like this until the election? If so, why bother even appointing anyone to the Assembly to fill a vacancy? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on August 15, 2015, 11:14:37 PM Is anything happening in the Northeast Assembly? Since my appointment August 12 to fill in the rest of the term because of a vacancy, I have been checking in every day, more than once a day, and there is nothing going on in the Assembly. Is it going to be like this until the election? If so, why bother even appointing anyone to the Assembly to fill a vacancy? I've put some stuff in the queue now, but you're right, we need more active legislators right now... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on August 28, 2015, 04:30:21 AM Just as a reminder, the LG will be opening up a Speakership election soon.
Also, we have a bit of a backlog when it comes to bills right now, which is exciting. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on August 28, 2015, 03:25:39 PM I'll nominate evergreen to continue in the role as speaker, if she so wishes. Otherwise, I'll put my name forward.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on August 28, 2015, 08:50:22 PM Okay, schooling myself up here. :P
I'm going to go with past procedure here and declare nominations and declarations for the next session's Speaker of the Assembly now open for the next 24 hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on August 28, 2015, 10:09:17 PM i'll run/accept clyde's nomination
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on August 30, 2015, 09:14:47 AM As the only candidate, Evergreen is elected Speaker of the Assembly. Congrats and thanks for stepping up!
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on August 30, 2015, 11:09:16 AM Congrats. Hopefully, we can get a lot done in this Assembly term.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on October 18, 2015, 09:20:24 AM Due to evergreen's resignation, nominations and declarations for Speaker are now open for 24 hours, and I will extend if necessary.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 18, 2015, 09:33:02 AM Why not? I'll run for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on October 18, 2015, 10:40:46 AM I'll run also :)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on October 18, 2015, 11:00:47 PM Well, this is different from the usual.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on October 19, 2015, 10:55:36 AM Great! We'll have a ballot open for 24 hrs.
Please select one: [ ] ClarkKent (Federalist - CT) [ ] RGN08 (Federalist - NY) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 19, 2015, 10:57:05 AM [X] ClarkKent (Federalist - CT)
[ ] RGN08 (Federalist - NY) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on October 19, 2015, 11:21:05 AM [1] write-in: clyde
[2] superman [3] rgn Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on October 19, 2015, 11:26:52 AM [1] write-in: Clyde1998
[2] RGN08 [3] ClarkKent [/quote] Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on October 19, 2015, 02:41:15 PM For the record, write-in's are not allowed per the SOAP.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on October 19, 2015, 02:43:34 PM For the record, write-in's are not allowed per the SOAP. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 19, 2015, 02:52:14 PM If you wanted to be Speaker, you should've announced it. ;)
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on October 19, 2015, 02:58:45 PM If you wanted to be Speaker, you should've announced it. ;) But as I said, it's not much of an issue - as there's only a week left of this Assembly term. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 19, 2015, 03:02:17 PM Well, rules are rules.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 19, 2015, 04:19:46 PM Also, RGN08 is actually on a LOA now, so the only one who still has to vote is DemPGH himself.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on October 20, 2015, 03:15:21 PM Apologies, guys. RL busted in today. Meetings this morning that went way over and backed up the afternoon due to someone's poor communication.
I'm extending this another 24 hrs. It will end tomorrow morning 10:55. Meanwhile, I'll figure out how to handle write-in votes. I don't see anything that governs how this should be done. Nothing in the statutes and nothing in the NE constitution. I do agree that 24 hrs. is short notice. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on October 20, 2015, 11:25:49 PM Apologies, guys. RL busted in today. Meetings this morning that went way over and backed up the afternoon due to someone's poor communication. I'm extending this another 24 hrs. It will end tomorrow morning 10:55. Meanwhile, I'll figure out how to handle write-in votes. I don't see anything that governs how this should be done. Nothing in the statutes and nothing in the NE constitution. I do agree that 24 hrs. is short notice. Simplest way imo is to just disregard the first preferences of write-in voters, and just move on their number twos. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DemPGH on October 21, 2015, 09:03:46 AM [ X ] ClarkKent (Federalist - CT)
[ ] RGN08 (Federalist - NY) Disregarding the write-in votes, ClarkKent wins 3-1 by my count. Congratulations! If I'm not allowed to extend the voting period like I did, Kent wins 2-1 by my count. Apologies for that, again, because yesterday was quite hectic. By this afternoon things should be returning to normal. For the record, write-in's are not allowed per the SOAP. Okay, good to know! I need to familiarize myself with the SOAP. Shoot me a link to it if you get a chance. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on October 31, 2015, 12:33:46 AM FYI - the Assembly needs to elect a speaker for the new Assembly. The vote is to be opened by the Lieutenant Governor, if the governor has named one.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on October 31, 2015, 04:07:13 AM I was going to announce it later but Clarkkent is my Lt. Governor so he needs to open the ballot. After the speaker elections I'd also like the Assembly to confirm my cabinet appointments through the correct channels
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on October 31, 2015, 10:09:37 AM Count this when the election is opened.
I'll be running for NE speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on October 31, 2015, 03:29:14 PM Count this when the election is opened. I'll be running for NE speaker. Quote from: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/New_Northeast_Constitution Cabinet Amendment 11. The Speaker and Lieutenant Governor may not serve as a Secretary of any department. As your the only representative not to be in the cabinet (excluding Evergreen - who's on leave), you should be speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on October 31, 2015, 11:02:17 PM Yep, looks like RGN is the only person eligible to be Speaker, so he automatically gets it.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on November 01, 2015, 07:02:22 PM I will be opening the assembly right now.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on November 02, 2015, 11:16:56 AM I will be opening the assembly right now. I have no opposition to any of the nominated people being appointed to the cabinet and I'll vote in favour for all to be appointed. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on November 21, 2015, 05:10:29 PM Do we have any slots available to introduce new legislation?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on November 21, 2015, 09:15:37 PM Do we have any slots available to introduce new legislation? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on December 18, 2015, 10:49:45 AM Since the new legislative term appears to have started, I'll use my authority as Lieutenant Governor.
Nominations for Speaker are now open for 48 hours. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on December 18, 2015, 01:01:31 PM I'll nominate DKrol - and recommend that no-one else gets nominated, so we can get going quicker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on December 18, 2015, 05:37:24 PM I gladly accept the nomination.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on December 20, 2015, 11:35:46 AM 48 hours have passed, and DKrol was the only one running, so he automatically gets it. Congratulations, Mr. Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on December 23, 2015, 02:55:14 PM I will not be ending any votes, starting any votes, ending any debates, or starting any debates until December 27th. Merry Christmas, everyone.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on December 31, 2015, 02:23:48 PM The haphazard method of throwing around amendments will not be recognized. From here on, and amendment must be made in writing, seconded, and then voted upon OR come from the sponsor of the amendment. This is standard parliamentary procedure and this announcement just serves as a reminder or clarification.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on January 01, 2016, 07:13:15 PM All bills in the introduction thread have been introduced.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on January 11, 2016, 07:12:53 PM We have the joy of another speaker ship election now that Dkrol has resigned
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on January 11, 2016, 11:26:48 PM I would like to run for Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: DKrol on January 11, 2016, 11:58:45 PM I would like to run for Speaker. Pikachu has my full support. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on January 12, 2016, 05:33:08 AM I would like to run for Speaker. Pikachu has my full support. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on January 12, 2016, 05:35:12 AM I think the longest serving Assembly member has to start the vote - which I think is RGN (IIRC). If the vote hasn't been opened by tomorrow morning - and I'm still in the Assembly - I'm happy to open the vote.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on January 12, 2016, 10:58:18 AM In accordance with the laws of the Northeast Region, the voting for the position of Speaker of is now open
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clyde1998 on January 12, 2016, 12:00:28 PM [X] Pikachu
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Enduro on January 12, 2016, 12:11:41 PM
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on January 12, 2016, 12:46:39 PM Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on January 12, 2016, 06:31:10 PM Of course,
1. pikachu Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on January 12, 2016, 07:48:23 PM 1. Pikachu
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on January 24, 2016, 08:58:32 AM Is there any amendment that changed the voting time from 48 hours to 24 hours?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on January 24, 2016, 06:58:38 PM Is there any amendment that changed the voting time from 48 hours to 24 hours? ...nope. I made a mistake.... Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 10, 2016, 04:02:08 PM Should we have another vote for Speaker since Pikachu is swearing his oath into the Senate tomorrow?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 10, 2016, 11:04:40 PM Yes I think we will need to have a vote for speaker. Is it RGN who will open the vote?
I don't intend to seek the speaker position but if nobody wants to do it I can do it for the rest of the term. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 10, 2016, 11:18:15 PM I may or may not run for Speaker; I will see which other assemblymen are running first.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on February 11, 2016, 01:13:33 PM Yeah, RGN's supposed to open the vote.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 12, 2016, 04:42:10 AM I'm happy to open the vote later today
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on February 12, 2016, 10:54:59 AM I'll be the one. Voting is now open
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 12, 2016, 04:57:45 PM [1] Poirot
[2] RGN Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: pikachu on February 12, 2016, 11:59:48 PM Ftr, section 6 of the SOAP mandates 24 hours for people nominating themselves, and then there's a ballot. If Poirot's the only one who officially declared, then he becomes the Speaker with no ballot.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 13, 2016, 02:03:33 PM I declare for speaker.
1. Poirot Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on February 13, 2016, 08:00:32 PM I do think Poirot is technically the speaker if his post counts as a declaration
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 14, 2016, 04:33:20 PM I think we should proceed with Poirot as Speaker; he is the only declared candidate.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 14, 2016, 10:25:00 PM I'll take it like I have been elected speaker and we will continue moving the bills that are currently debated in the assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 21, 2016, 10:12:53 AM There is a new bill in the legislation introduction thread. There are not enough days left in this term to complete the process of dealing with the bill (5 days minimum). I don't remember if there is some cut off date to start studying new bills when the term is ending but I would be inclined to let the next assembly deal with the bill. I'm considering also the fact there is nothing else in the legislative queue.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 23, 2016, 03:08:58 PM I suppose we'll need a new speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 23, 2016, 05:30:38 PM Yes. Representatives elected assume office on the Thursday following the election and the assembly needs to choose a speaker. This is how it works:
Quote 2. At the beginning of each term of the Assembly, and at any time when the office is vacant, the first order of business of the Assembly shall be to elect the Speaker. 3. The Lieutenant Governor shall preside over the election, but he may neither be nominated for, nor be elected as, Speaker. In the case of the absence of the Lieutenant Governor, the member with the longest continuous period of service shall conduct the election. 4. Nominations shall be open for a period of twenty-four (24) hours. A member may nominate no more that one member. Any member nominated must declare their acceptance of the nomination to be listed on the ballot. 5. At the close of nominations, if only one member has been nominated, he shall immediately be declared to have been elected. 6. If, however, two or more members have been nominated, an election shall immediately be held by optional preference IRV. Only members officially nominated shall be listed on the ballot - write-in votes shall not be permitted. The election shall conclude after a period of twenty-four (24) hours, or after all members have voted, whichever is sooner. 7. The Lieutenant Governor shall certify the results following the election, and the Speaker shall immediately assume office. Taken from the Role of the Speaker section of the SOAP. The rules for debates and voting in the assembly are there. The speaker needs to apply the rules. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_SOAP (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_SOAP) Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on February 23, 2016, 10:09:32 PM I would appreciate anyone interested here looking over my ideas in the office. I'd appreciate an early co-sponsor helping to change it to legislatural(?) form or at least showing support. Please PM me if you are wiling to do either for any idea.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 24, 2016, 07:00:15 PM The Northeast Election Codification Commission has completed its work. Here is our report. First, our proposed omnibus Northeast Election law (which takes up 2 posts), then our explanation of our proposed changes (in a third post):
Consolidated Northeastern Election Law 1) Filling vacancies A) Assembly i) When a vacancy arises in the Assembly three or more weeks before the next regularly scheduled Assembly election, the vacancy shall be filled by a special election. ii) The special election shall be held in the same manner and procedure as a regular election for the whole Assembly. iii) If the date of the vacancy is two days or less before a Friday, the election shall be held on the next weekend. iv) Upon the certification of the results by the appropriate election administrator, the elected candidate shall be eligible to assume their seat. v) The governor may appoint a person to fill the vacated seat. The term of the appointed representative shall expire on the swearing-in of the newly elected representative. vi) When a vacancy arises in the Assembly less than three weeks before the next regularly scheduled Assembly election, the vacancy shall be filled by gubernatorial appointment. B) Regional Senator i) If a vacancy should arise for the Northeast Senate seat, a special election shall take place to fill the vacancy. The polling booth shall be opened at 12:00:00AM Eastern Standard Time on the Friday after the vacancy occurs, unless the date of the vacancy is two days or less before that Friday, in which case, the polling booth shall be opened at 12:00:00AM Eastern Standard time the following Friday. The polling booth shall close at 11:59:59PM the following Sunday. The victor shall be seated immediately. The Governor may appoint an interim Senator to fill the seat in the time between the arising of the vacancy and election of a new Senator. ii) If there are less than three weeks before the next regularly scheduled regional Senate election when the vacancy occurs, the Governor may forgo the special election and appoint a Senator subject to confirmation by the Legislative Assembly. C) Governor i) Northeast Governor vacancies shall be filled in the manner described in Article III, Sections 6-7 of the Northeast Constitution. As of the time of this law, those provisions state: "6. If the office of Governor is to become vacant at some point while he or she is in office, the Lieutenant Governor shall assume the role of Acting Governor until a special election may be held. During this time, the Acting Governor shall retain their position as Lieutenant Governor and Representative. However, they shall not be able to exercise any of their duties as Lieutenant or as Representative during this time. If the vacancy occurs less than three weeks before the next regularly scheduled election, the Lieutenant Governor shall immediately become the Governor and serve for the remainder of the term - vacating their other offices. 7. In the event that the office of Governor falls vacant three or more weeks before the next scheduled gubernatorial election, a special election shall be held to fill the remainder of the term. The election shall be held on the first Friday following the vacancy, except where the Friday falls within two days of the position becoming vacant, in which case the election will take place the following Friday, and be held in the same manner as a regular gubernatorial election. Upon certification of the results, the Governor-elect shall immediately assume office upon swearing in." 2) Voting Booth A) Text of Voting Booth Section i. a. The voting guideline outlined in Section ii of this act applies to all regional elections held within the Northeast, but not those conducted by the Northeast for the federal government, such as constitutional amendments. b. The relevant administrator of the election shall be charged with posting the guideline outlined in Section ii in the voting booth. c. The provision allowing for the None of the Above option is repealed. Section ii. a. The voting guideline shall appear as follows: Quote () This voting booth does not open until [hh:mm;ss timezone] on [day, month date]. Any vote cast in this thread before that time will be invalid. This voting booth is for [office(s)] Votes for offices in this region are cast using PR-STV. Voters who wish to preference more than one candidate should allocate a first preference for a candidate by marking a [1] in the space provided by that candidate's name, and proceeding to number as many preferences as they desire by marking a [2], [3], etc for as many candidates as they so desire. A vote will be counted so long as the voter that casts it is eligible to vote in this election and casts a formal ballot. A vote is formal so long as it contains numbered preferences with no duplicate numbers. A ballot containing Roman Numerals is considered formal. A ballot in which candidates have been ranked a,b,c, etc is considered formal so long as no letter has been repeated, and so long as a single candidate has been ranked a, for as long as the letters are consecutive with no duplicate letters. A ballot is formal if the CJO can determine the intent of the voter without interviewing that voter. You are permitted, but not advised, to edit your ballot within 20 minutes of posting it within this thread. Deleting your ballot at any time or editing it after 20 minutes will result in the invalidation of your vote. Write-in votes are only counted for a candidate if he or she publicly declares a willingness to receive write-in votes for the relevant office before the polls close in the Candidate Declaration Thread or writes in his or her own name on the ballot for the said office. This voting booth does not open until [hh:mm;ss timezone] on [day, month date], and ends at [hh:mm;ss timezone] on [day, month date]. Any vote cast in this thread outside of those parameters will be invalid. Official Ballot [Name of Office] [ ] [Name of candidate(s)] [ ] Write-in: ________________ b. When a referendum is placed on the ballot, the following language shall be inserted: Quote This voting booth is on a referendum to [X]. For the referendum, you may only select one of the two options (Aye or Nay) Official Ballot [Text of referendum question] [ ] Aye [ ] Nay B) Voting Booth Rules i) Once a ballot has been posted in the voting booth thread, the voter shall have 20 minutes from the posting of the ballot to edit his post as necessary; but no ballot shall be counted as valid which has been edited more than 20 minutes after being posted in the voting booth thread. ii) No voter may make any post in the voting booth that is not the voter's ballot, nor make multiple posts in the voting booth. Such action will result in the invalidation of any applicable ballots. iii) For a ballot to be counted in a regional election, it must be cast in the same language by which it was presented to the voter. iv) In the event that the polls shall not have been opened by 7:00 am Eastern Standard Time on the day appointed for the election to begin, any member of the Atlasian Supreme Court, the Registrar General, Secretary of Federal Elections, Governor or the Lieutenant Governor of the Northeast has the authority to open the polls and conduct the vote. v) In referendums and proposed constitutional amendment votes, voters shall vote either Aye or Nay. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 24, 2016, 07:01:27 PM (Continued)
3) Vote Counting A) Counting Rules i) After the close of polls, the ‘total valid poll’ shall be calculated, this being the total number of valid votes cast in the election. ii) The ‘quota’ (i.e. the number of votes required to be deemed elected) shall then be calculated as the whole number (disregarding any attached fraction) resulting from the following equation: [Total Valid Poll/(Number of seats to be filled + 1)] + 1 iii) A first count shall then be made quantifying the total number of first preferences each valid candidate did receive. Any candidates receiving more than or equal to the quota shall be deemed elected. iv) A surplus shall be re-allocated from each elected candidate to their preferences in order. The amount that each vote shall be worth for allocation shall be calculated as the number resulting from the following equation: {[(Total Value of Candidate's Votes - Quota) / (Total Value of Candidate's Vote)] x Value of each vote v) Steps 3 and 4 shall be repeated until the amount of candidates needed are elected. Should no candidates receive more than the quota, the candidate with the least amount of votes shall be eliminated. vi) Should any tie-breaking be necessary, the tie shall be broken by the number of second preference votes. If further tie-breaking is needed, the tie shall be broken by a Condorcet Count. vii) A candidate only needs to meet the quota, rather than exceed it, in order to be considered elected. viii) Write-in votes are only counted for a candidate if he or she publicly declares a willingness to receive write-in votes for the relevant office before the polls close in the Candidate Declaration Thread or writes in his or her own name on the ballot for the said office. B) Validity Rules i) A voter's ballot is valid only if the voter - a) is registered with the Registrar General as a voter of a Northeastern state 7 days prior to the day appointed for the election to begin; b) does not edit or delete a vote more than 20 minutes after it is originally cast; and c) does not write anything other than their vote in the voting booth. ii) Posts made by an election official in an election thread to administer that election must be separate from a post used to cast that official's ballot and does not count as posts for the purposes of subsection (i)(c). C) Vote Counting and Disputes i) As soon as possible after a vote has concluded, an official count shall be posted in the same thread as the vote by the official conducting the vote. Any attempts to vote that are disallowed shall be listed in that same post along with the reason for the disallowal. In the event that that two or more candidates shall have received the largest number of approvals in a non-runoff gubernatorial election, then a runoff shall be held in a separate thread. ii) Only a person who voted or attempted to vote in an election has standing to dispute the determination of the official conducting that vote. The Chief Judicial Officer of the region shall make a determination of both fact and law. Appeals to the Supreme Court of Atlasia are allowed only if there is a question of federal law involved. D) Special Election With No Winner i) In the event of a special election in which no candidate declares in the candidacy declaration thread or accepts write-in votes, the Governor shall have two weeks time to appoint a replacement after voting closes ii) The replacement shall be agreed to by the majority of Assembly, which shall have its presiding officer declare an immediate swearing in as soon as possible after the Assembly votes. iii) The replacement appointed will thereafter be considered a member of the body. As such, no duties nor respect allowed other members of the body shall be denied to the appointed one. D) Candidate Declaration Rules i) Valid declarations of candidacy for scheduled Northeast elections must be posted in the Candidate Declaration Thread no more than two months prior to the scheduled election. ii) Valid declarations of candidacy for special Northeast elections must be posted in the Candidate Declaration Thread after the vacancy occurs but at least one day before the election is set to begin. iii) Only valid declarations of candidacy will be listed on the ballot. 4) Campaigning for Invalidation of Votes A) Definition of Crime i) It shall be a crime against the Northeast Region for any Northeast citizen to instruct or encourage a voter who has already cast his or her ballot in an election for a regional office to take an action that would have the effect of invalidating the ballot. ii) The above provision applies to any election for Northeast Governor or Lieutenant Governor, any vote on a Proposition, Initiative, Recall, Regional Constitutional Amendment or other regional referendum, election or plebiscite. iii) The instruction or encouragement of a voter shall be interpreted to include any action which indicates the possibility of invalidating a vote to affect a Northeast election. B) Trial and Punishment i) Trial of this crime shall be by the Chief Judicial Officer of the Northeast region. ii) The Judge may admit evidence of the crime at his own discretion. iii) Sentencing of the crime shall be by the Judge; He may impose the following as punishment, depending upon the severity of the offense: Up to a two month ban from holding any office under the Northeast Region. iv) Appeals to a Federal Court shall only be allowed where there is a matter of federal law involved. 5) All prior Northeast election laws, including but not limited to the Assembly Special Elections Act 2015, Amendment to the Senate Vacancy Act, Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (Revised), Constitutional Amendment Explanation Act, Northeast Electoral Clarity Act, Vote Sanctity Act, Candidacy Declaration Act, Northeastern Voting Regulations, Official Ballot Language Act, Preferential Voting Act and Campaigning for Invalidation of Votes Initiative, are repealed. The Supremacy Act and Report of the Statutory Review Commission are repealed to the extent those laws impact Northeast election law. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 24, 2016, 07:02:21 PM Explanation of proposed changes to existing Northeast election law:
1) We have harmonized the election dates and times for Senate special elections so that they always run Friday-Monday instead of on random days 7 days after the vacancy occurs. It makes little sense to use a different standard for special Senate elections than special Assembly or Gubernatorial elections. 2) We have harmonized the number of weeks an Assembly or Senate vacancy must occur before the Governor can make an appointment to reflect the time period in the Constitution before the Lieutenant Governor permanently becomes Governor without a special election. The old standard for Assembly was two weeks before the expiry of the present term. The old standard for Senate was 4 weeks before the expiry of the present term. Under the proposed change, no election need to be held if the vacancy occurs less than three weeks before the next regularly scheduled election. The change from date of expiry to date of election mitigates the chances that a special Assembly election need to be held at the same time as the regularly scheduled Assembly election, which makes no sense. 3) We have given voters the opportunity to edit their ballots up to 20 minutes after they have been cast. Current law does not allow voters to edit their ballot at all. This conforms Northeast voting regulations to federal voting regulations. The lack of the ability to edit votes in the Northeast has been a source of confusion in the past, leading voters to unintentionally spoil their ballots. 4) We have made technical amendments to the ancient but still partially valid Northeast Voting Regulations to, among other things, give the Secretary of Federal Elections and others the ability to open up Northeast Voting Booths if not properly opened on time, and conform to the Aye-Nay language used in the voting booth instructions for constitutional amendment votes. 5) We have modified the voting booth instructions to reflect our other proposed changes to Northeast Election law. 6) We have deleted the Constitutional Amendment Explanation Act. Assemblies have not been following its mandate to formally explain why a proposed Northeast constitutional amendment is or is not desirable. We feel that a law that hasn't been followed should be taken off the books. 7) We made a technical amendment to further qualify that a candidate only needs to equal a quota to be elected. The old rules were contradictory. Since a quota equals more than half the vote, equaling the quota should be sufficient to be elected, as was probably intended. 8) We formalized the previously unwritten rule that write-ins are only counted if a candidate formally declares that he or she will accept write-ins in the Candidate Declaration Thread or writes himself or herself in the ballot box. 9) We changed the declaration deadline for special elections to be after the vacancy occurs but at least one day before the date of the election. This conforms with the constitutional deadline to declare for regularly scheduled elections. The Chief Judicial Officer needs time to formalize a final ballot. Declaring in the minutes before the election begins hampers the CJO's ability to do so. Previously, the law required that a declaration occur after an election was declared, but it was unclear who was required to declare or how. Now, once a vacancy occurs, a candidate can formally declare. 10) We changed the sentencing options for violations of the Campaigning for Invalidation of Votes Act. Under prior law, the CJO could have sentenced a violator to up to a 4 month ban from voting in Northeast elections. Such a sentence would violate the Atlasian Constitution, as only the Secretary of Federal Elections can maintain a voter list. It makes no sense to give the CJO the option to impose an unconstitutional sentence. 11) We have decided to repeal the Supremacy Act to the extent it applies to election laws. We think that that law is virtually impossible to apply to Northeastern voting laws, as when an actual conflict between Northeastern and Atlasian statutory voting laws actually occurs isn't clear. It potentially calls into question all of our Northeastern voting regulations, which makes little sense. It does not, however, allow the Northeast to ignore basic federal election laws that are applicable to the Northeast under the Atlasian Constitution. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on February 24, 2016, 07:14:37 PM Note that our report has also been sent to the governor.
The next step is up to the Assembly and the governor. One or more Assemblymen or the governor may, but are not required to, formally propose that our proposed law be voted on by the full Assembly. And the Assembly has the full power to amend our proposed law every way. The commission cannot force the Assembly to do anything. We are solely an advisory board. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 24, 2016, 10:36:49 PM As speaker of the assembly I confirm we have received the report of the Northeast Law Codification Commission before the end of this session.
I thank the other members of the commission, RGN at the beginning, Clyde at the end and cinyc for their work. I want to highlight cinyc's contribution because he was the one who merged all the laws into one and wrote the explanations. With that, the session comes to an end. There has been a lot of turnover in the composition of the assembly from the beginning to the end. Thank you to all for participating in the assembly's work and your presence. Finally to the representatives who were there more towards the end, it was nice to work with you. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 25, 2016, 04:09:56 AM I too would like thank all those in the commission for their hard work-this is a brilliant piece of work, and I intent to submit it to the Assembly to pass in their next term
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 25, 2016, 01:22:24 PM I suppose it's time to choose a Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Poirot on February 25, 2016, 11:02:41 PM Usually candidates elected swear in. The Lt. Governor is nominated, so then everything is ready to elect the speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 28, 2016, 03:04:43 PM I will now be opening nominations for Speaker of the Northeast Assembly for the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on February 28, 2016, 07:33:29 PM I announce I will be running for Speaker, but let me be clear: I will be annoying as I have to to get activity up.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 29, 2016, 05:28:44 PM Kingpoleon is the only candidate to have declared candidacy. Therefore, Kingpoleon is now the Speaker of the Northeast Assembly.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on February 29, 2016, 08:05:27 PM Congrats Kingpoleon, now the assembly can get on to work with the new term. I'll be issuing my much anticipated state of the Northeast speech soon
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on March 03, 2016, 01:06:15 PM So guys, should we start the new session?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on March 03, 2016, 01:06:30 PM I'm all for it.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on March 03, 2016, 08:12:59 PM Do I just say, "I now hereby open the Assembly."?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on March 03, 2016, 09:53:41 PM Do I just say, "I now hereby open the Assembly."? As speaker, you need to put bills on the Assembly floor, through separate posts on the Regional Government board. One bill per post. No one else can do anything until you do that. Read the SOAP (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_SOAP) for further procedural information. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on March 19, 2016, 04:39:45 PM Quote The End Supremacism and Hate in the Northeast Act 1. The Northeast Assembly reminds citizens that our great region has no place for hate, regardless of what group it is against. 2. If any organized group intentionally threatens, injures, or otherwise harms any person based on their race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability, then any members found to be involved will be sentenced to a minimum of a fine of $1,000, and a maximum of five years in prison. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on March 30, 2016, 12:28:56 PM According to Article II, Section 14:
The Legislative Assembly shall have the power to override the Governor’s veto. If the Assembly passes legislation previously vetoed by the Governor by more than a two-thirds majority vote in a five-seat Assembly, or by a unanimous vote in a three-seat Assembly, it becomes law without the Governor’s signature. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on April 06, 2016, 05:50:18 AM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: NHI on April 06, 2016, 07:36:59 AM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 07, 2016, 06:20:09 PM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term? Anyone want to volunteer to chair it? NHI, Blair? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on April 07, 2016, 09:47:37 PM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term? Anyone want to volunteer to chair it? NHI, Blair? What do you mean by chair it? The Governor proposes the budget. The Assembly votes on it. It goes in a special legislative slot and has special debate rules under the SOAP than regular bills. Regular bills should be voted on within 72 hours unless debate is extended. There is no reason that the Elections bill should still be on the floor, for example. No one asked for an extension. That there is very little debate is largely irrelevant under the SOAP. The Northeast Assembly isn't run like the Senate. We have time rules, in part because we only bring a few items to the floor at a time. No motion needs to be made to call for a vote on anything but the budget. The vote automatically starts when the time for debate ends. Please read the SOAP, Mr. Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on April 08, 2016, 08:43:27 PM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term? Anyone want to volunteer to chair it? NHI, Blair? What do you mean by chair it? The Governor proposes the budget. The Assembly votes on it. It goes in a special legislative slot and has special debate rules under the SOAP than regular bills. Regular bills should be voted on within 72 hours unless debate is extended. There is no reason that the Elections bill should still be on the floor, for example. No one asked for an extension. That there is very little debate is largely irrelevant under the SOAP. The Northeast Assembly isn't run like the Senate. We have time rules, in part because we only bring a few items to the floor at a time. No motion needs to be made to call for a vote on anything but the budget. The vote automatically starts when the time for debate ends. Please read the SOAP, Mr. Speaker. During that time, I was criticized for extending bills for way too long. I even postponed the current voting of a legislation just to allow the one who proposed the bill to add more points or statements / explain further on the bill. However, I extended the debate time mostly with the discretion of my fellow colleagues, sometimes my discretion to allow more points to come in and to have a better comprehension about the bill. I would always ask if they wanted to vote on it or extend the debate further. If there is no answer, or someone wants to move to the voting part, then I will move the assembly to vote on the bill. I would always give an extension if someone would wanted to say something or explain further the bill proposed. Yes, after my tenure, I still don't know why the next speaker only allotted 24 hours to vote on the bill (which is 48 hours, as stated on the SOAP). I pointed out to the next speaker after my successor that it was in fact, 48 hours. Just stating what I experienced. I'm not pointing at anyone or criticizing anybody. I do hope we get those bills voted or debated. I'm not a good debater, so I rarely say something about the bill. You will only get my position through the voting part of the bills, which I believe the most important part of the assembly sessions. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 08, 2016, 09:18:53 PM Do we want a Budget before or after the next legislature term? Anyone want to volunteer to chair it? NHI, Blair? What do you mean by chair it? The Governor proposes the budget. The Assembly votes on it. It goes in a special legislative slot and has special debate rules under the SOAP than regular bills. Regular bills should be voted on within 72 hours unless debate is extended. There is no reason that the Elections bill should still be on the floor, for example. No one asked for an extension. That there is very little debate is largely irrelevant under the SOAP. The Northeast Assembly isn't run like the Senate. We have time rules, in part because we only bring a few items to the floor at a time. No motion needs to be made to call for a vote on anything but the budget. The vote automatically starts when the time for debate ends. Please read the SOAP, Mr. Speaker. During that time, I was criticized for extending bills for way too long. I even postponed the current voting of a legislation just to allow the one who proposed the bill to add more points or statements / explain further on the bill. However, I extended the debate time mostly with the discretion of my fellow colleagues, sometimes my discretion to allow more points to come in and to have a better comprehension about the bill. I would always ask if they wanted to vote on it or extend the debate further. If there is no answer, or someone wants to move to the voting part, then I will move the assembly to vote on the bill. I would always give an extension if someone would wanted to say something or explain further the bill proposed. Yes, after my tenure, I still don't know why the next speaker only allotted 24 hours to vote on the bill (which is 48 hours, as stated on the SOAP). I pointed out to the next speaker after my successor that it was in fact, 48 hours. Just stating what I experienced. I'm not pointing at anyone or criticizing anybody. I do hope we get those bills voted or debated. I'm not a good debater, so I rarely say something about the bill. You will only get my position through the voting part of the bills, which I believe the most important part of the assembly sessions. Once again, the SOAP is a procedural manual, not my step-by-step guide. If it's supposed to be, I need clarification. I want multiple persons to offer to work on this together. cinyc, I appreciate your legalistic check on this Assembly. However, what's the point of the SOAP if we must follow it letter for letter? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on April 08, 2016, 10:28:43 PM Once again, the SOAP is a procedural manual, not my step-by-step guide. If it's supposed to be, I need clarification. I want multiple persons to offer to work on this together. cinyc, I appreciate your legalistic check on this Assembly. However, what's the point of the SOAP if we must follow it letter for letter? The point of the SOAP is to provide rules on how the Assembly is to be run. It is a step-by-step guide. Without the provisions calling for the relatively prompt disposition of Assembly business, someone could block new bills from being proposed and acted upon. Granted, there's not much legislation in the queue right now, but this Assembly is going to sine die within the next few weeks, so there should be some urgency to get things currently on the floor passed sooner rather than later. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on April 10, 2016, 02:27:17 PM When I was Speaker (back in what march last year, christ nearly a year) I operated under the assumption that the SOAP was gospel
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 10, 2016, 02:48:07 PM When I was Speaker (back in what march last year, christ nearly a year) I operated under the assumption that the SOAP was gospel No offense, Mr. Governor, but I like to keep my options open rather than having an unchanging and strict plan. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 10, 2016, 02:49:57 PM Once again, the SOAP is a procedural manual, not my step-by-step guide. If it's supposed to be, I need clarification. I want multiple persons to offer to work on this together. cinyc, I appreciate your legalistic check on this Assembly. However, what's the point of the SOAP if we must follow it letter for letter? The point of the SOAP is to provide rules on how the Assembly is to be run. It is a step-by-step guide. Without the provisions calling for the relatively prompt disposition of Assembly business, someone could block new bills from being proposed and acted upon. Granted, there's not much legislation in the queue right now, but this Assembly is going to sine die within the next few weeks, so there should be some urgency to get things currently on the floor passed sooner rather than later. Your point of time? Granted. As to the SOAP, feel free to take legal proceedings regarding my application of it. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on April 10, 2016, 04:46:20 PM Well looking into it the SOAP is actually codified into law
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 10, 2016, 06:07:14 PM Well looking into it the SOAP is actually codified into law Precedence is important in law. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: This account no longer in use. on April 10, 2016, 09:09:50 PM Mr. Speaker, I really do think we need to, at the very least, get NE1 and NE2 through voting.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 10, 2016, 09:36:24 PM Mr. Speaker, I really do think we need to, at the very least, get NE1 and NE2 through voting. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on April 12, 2016, 09:51:31 AM Well looking into it the SOAP is actually codified into law Precedence is important in law. I upheld it as Speaker, I got Dkrol to uphold it as Speaker when I become Senator, Evergreen upheld it as Speaker, so did MattVT before me. We've got the Chief Judical Officer (the head of the legal branch), Myself the Governor (head of the executive Branch) and about 4 speakers in the past who've all upheld the SOAP. This is getting beyond stupid. I'd carefully consider your challenge to take this to the court Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Clark Kent on April 12, 2016, 10:10:46 AM When I was (briefly) Speaker, I was also under the impression that the SOAP was law, not just guidelines.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Blair on April 17, 2016, 08:56:32 AM I hope to get a budget written and published by tomorrow at the latest.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 17, 2016, 02:19:13 PM Listen, I don't mean to be stepping on anyone's toes. If anyone has advice, please PM me. I will gladly resign if my beliefs on this are too controversial. I won't change how I believe leading and guidelines should be, but I will gladly change how leading and guidelines will be by the means of changing the Speaker.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on April 27, 2016, 09:40:19 PM The new Assembly starts at 1:00AM tonight. Traditionally, the Lt. Governor would open session and start the vote for speaker. However, since the Lt. Governor is currently the Acting Governor, he is consitutionally ineligible to do so. That task should fall to the longest continuously sitting Northeast Representative. Is that RGN08?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on April 28, 2016, 06:28:38 AM The new Assembly starts at 1:00AM tonight. Traditionally, the Lt. Governor would open session and start the vote for speaker. However, since the Lt. Governor is currently the Acting Governor, he is consitutionally ineligible to do so. That task should fall to the longest continuously sitting Northeast Representative. Is that RGN08? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on April 28, 2016, 08:50:41 PM Can the Governor nominate a candidate?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on April 29, 2016, 01:52:22 AM Can the Governor nominate a candidate? Quote from: Northeast Constitution If the office of Governor is to become vacant at some point while he or she is in office, the Lieutenant Governor shall assume the role of Acting Governor until a special election may be held. During this time, the Acting Governor shall retain their position as Lieutenant Governor and Representative. However, they shall not be able to exercise any of their duties as Lieutenant or as Representative during this time. If the vacancy occurs less than three weeks before the next regularly scheduled election, the Lieutenant Governor shall immediately become the Governor and serve for the remainder of the term - vacating their other offices. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on April 29, 2016, 09:41:25 PM I'll have to re-open the nomination for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: SWE on April 30, 2016, 11:54:00 AM I nominate LongLiveRock for Speaker
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on April 30, 2016, 05:19:31 PM Can the Governor nominate a candidate? The Acting Governor can't perform any of the duties of the Assembly while he or she is Acting Governor. This is one way of ensuring that the Acting Governor isn't simultaneously holding two offices (i.e. Northeast Assemblyman/Lt. Governor and Acting Governor), which is prohibited by the Atlasian Constitution. It also makes sure all legislative and executive power isn't possessed by one person. So, you can't vote in the Assembly or nominate anyone for speaker until after the special election results are certified on Monday - and if you win, you still can't nominate a Speaker, as that's the job of the Assembly, not the Governor. The Governor is not a member of the Assembly. The Governor gets to name a Lt. Governor, who can't be Speaker. Theoretically, you could name a Lt. Governor as Acting Governor, but there's no reason you'd want to, as you'd be replacing yourself as Acting Governor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: LLR on May 01, 2016, 08:02:37 AM I nominate LongLiveRock for Speaker I suppose I have to declare candidacy, so: I announce I will be a candidate for Speaker of the Northeastern Assembly Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 01, 2016, 08:12:40 AM You're automatically elected. I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: cinyc on May 01, 2016, 04:09:57 PM You're automatically elected. I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong You are correct. Nominations were open for 24 hours, LongLiveRock was nominated and accepted the nomination during that period, and nobody else was nominated during that period. LongLiveRock automatically becomes Speaker without a vote, under the SOAP. Congratulations! Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: LLR on May 03, 2016, 07:54:14 PM Should I open the assembly to debate RGN's amendment?
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 03, 2016, 07:55:23 PM Should I open the assembly to debate RGN's amendment? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 03, 2016, 07:56:01 PM Should I open the assembly to debate RGN's amendment? Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: LLR on May 03, 2016, 08:01:08 PM ok, topics have been started
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on May 03, 2016, 09:05:31 PM Should I open the assembly to debate RGN's amendment? That said, I ask that the Speaker deliver the BOOST TWO to the Governor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 03, 2016, 10:51:17 PM Should I open the assembly to debate RGN's amendment? Open also the confirmation hearing for Rep. Kingpoleon That said, I ask that the Speaker deliver the BOOST TWO to the Governor. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on May 15, 2016, 04:54:42 PM I motion for a new Speakership election, granting beforehand twenty-four hours for the former Speaker to fulfill neglected duties.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: LLR on May 15, 2016, 06:31:11 PM I'm sorry I had to leave so suddenly, good luck to all
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 18, 2016, 10:19:59 AM NHI should open the election for speaker after I announced LLR's replacement.
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: NHI on May 19, 2016, 06:54:10 PM NHI should open the election for speaker after I announced LLR's replacement. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 19, 2016, 08:22:29 PM NHI should open the election for speaker after I announced LLR's replacement. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 21, 2016, 11:09:30 AM It seems that our assembly is virtually dead in terms of activity. You guys really need to elect a speaker by Tuesday, after a winner has been certified
Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on May 22, 2016, 05:38:00 PM It seems that our assembly is virtually dead in terms of activity. You guys really need to elect a speaker by Tuesday, after a winner has been certified I nominate/second Abraham Washington for Speaker. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 22, 2016, 07:24:21 PM It seems that our assembly is virtually dead in terms of activity. You guys really need to elect a speaker by Tuesday, after a winner has been certified I'm not really the one "do-nothing". I was just waiting for bills to be sent to my office so I can take appropriate action. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Kingpoleon on May 22, 2016, 10:48:47 PM It seems that our assembly is virtually dead in terms of activity. You guys really need to elect a speaker by Tuesday, after a winner has been certified I'm not really the one "do-nothing". I was just waiting for bills to be sent to my office so I can take appropriate action. You haven't introduced a budget. Title: Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II Post by: Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN on May 23, 2016, 12:33:05 AM It seems that our assembly is virtually dead in terms of activity. You guys really need to elect a speaker by Tuesday, after a winner has been certified I'm not really the one "do-nothing". I was just waiting for bills to be sent to my office so I can take appropriate action. You haven't introduced a budget. |