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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: Nichlemn on January 01, 2013, 05:34:30 PM



Title: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Nichlemn on January 01, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
Obama won all the surrounding states and was thought to be a favourite, but Clinton won by 10 points. Is there anything unique to South Dakota or was this an artifact of the campaign, perhaps a sympathy vote for the almost-sure loser?


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on January 01, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
Maybe Republicans who wanted to troll... is SD an open primary?


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: bedstuy on January 01, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
A few things.

Iowa, Minnesota, Wyoming and North Dakota are caucus states.  Nebraska has a few black people.  Montana is in the mold of the Western states that Obama won and the campaign put more resources in Montana because it was a potential swing state.


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on January 04, 2013, 04:32:56 AM
The clintons hit this state hard and poured money into my state because they thought it would be the "game breaker" in the end


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on January 15, 2013, 06:57:06 AM
The clintons hit this state hard and poured money into my state because they thought it would be the "game breaker" in the end

That.
Obama also had already shifted into general election mode and spent most of his time campaigning in states like Michigan, Missouri and Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2013, 07:12:08 AM
Didn't Nate Silver have state-by-state predictions for every primary in 2008, based purely on the demography of each state?  What did his formula say for South Dakota?


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: paulsonj72 on January 16, 2013, 07:33:41 AM
Maybe Republicans who wanted to troll... is SD an open primary?

No it's not. When you register to vote you register by party. I used to live just across the border in South Dakota from MN and when I registered to vote I had to put a party down.


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: TDAS04 on March 12, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
I was at the last Hillary rally in 2008; I got to see her, Bill, and Chelsea when they stopped in Sioux Falls the night before the primaries were over.

Nate Silver actually predicted an Obama victory in the SD primary, reasoning that SD whites were primarily of English, German, and Scandinavian ancestry; these whites tend to be more socially liberal then some other groups of whites.

While Silver is more accurate of a predictor than anyone else, he did not call this one correctly.  I believe that Hillary won SD by simply taking the time to campaign here, and it pays off in a small state.  Certainly, South Dakota Democrats did not have the same hostility to Obama as Democrats in Kentucky or West Virginia.


Title: Re: Why did Hillary win the South Dakota primary?
Post by: Californiadreaming on January 18, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
The clintons hit this state hard and poured money into my state because they thought it would be the "game breaker" in the end
Source, please?