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Title: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 21, 2013, 02:30:52 AM
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Time to do this again.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: H. Ross Peron on April 21, 2013, 02:32:11 AM

Jeb Bush if he runs.

If not, probably Rubio or Christie, possibly Portman or Huntsman.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: windjammer on April 21, 2013, 04:41:47 AM
Paul Ryan


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Cobbler on April 21, 2013, 05:12:03 AM
I think either Christie or Paul. I think Christie will be the establishment choice after Rubio ends up being a flop (which I think he will). Paul will be the conservative grassroots choice. I have a difficult time, at this point at least, seeing the nominee being someone else.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: H. Ross Peron on April 21, 2013, 05:32:10 AM
The probable results of the initial primaries and caucuses should be looked at:

Iowa-Paul or Santorum
New Hampshire- Bush (if running), Christie or Huntsman
South Carolina-Bush (if running), Rubio or Paul
Florida-Bush (if running), Rubio


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 21, 2013, 08:14:51 AM
Ftr, I voted Rubio in this poll, though obviously he's not the strongest frontrunner in the world and it's very early.  Christie and Paul also in the mix, though of course they're both very flawed candidates as well.

The sleeper of the moment (and now probably up to #4 in likelihood of winning the nomination in my book) is Scott Walker.  Definitely looking stronger in recent weeks/months, if only because the other potential candidates are looking a bit less impressive.  And Walker's recent travel schedule strongly suggests that he intends to run as long as Paul Ryan doesn't.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Averroës Nix on April 21, 2013, 08:29:53 AM
I voted Rubio in the last poll, but his star is rapidly fading. His immigration push hasn't been good for him - not, as many pundits claim, because he's losing conservative credibility, but because he's losing his (undeserved) reputation for being a skilled and effective politician.

Went with Christie this time, although I suspect that we'd all be talking about Walker were we not preoccupied with Ryan (whose putative candidacy is, in my view, a red herring).


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: BluegrassBlueVote on April 21, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
Christie. The conservative wing is too crowded right now, but I expect that to sort itself out. The primary will be carnage.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 21, 2013, 11:36:50 AM
Rubio or Christie.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: wan on April 21, 2013, 11:40:42 AM
Christie


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: TDAS04 on April 21, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
Jeb Bush.  Social conservatives may be wary of Christie, and Bush would be more electable than Rubio.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mehmentum on April 21, 2013, 12:38:01 PM
Rubio, Paul, and Christie, in that order.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on April 21, 2013, 12:47:21 PM
I'm rather sure it'll be Christie. The thing is, the GOP would be ridiculous not to choose him. So that means they probably won't.

Also, I do still see a path for my girl. It's narrow, but it's there.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 21, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Depends which righties run, but for now Rubio, Christie ... ... Paul. Though I'm hoping none of the above.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Goldwater on April 21, 2013, 01:19:22 PM
I don't see why everybody thinks Jeb is so electable, considering how hated his brother is.

Anyway, I think it will be Christie or Rubio.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mister Mets on April 21, 2013, 02:02:04 PM
Christie.

It's likelier that he'll run than that Rubio will run. Rubio may back Jeb.

And he has less competition among the more moderate primary voters that supported Romney in 2012, and McCain in 2000 and 2008.

Rand Paul's views are likely to divide primary voters. He has a shot, but I would rate him below Christie, Rubio and Ryan.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on April 21, 2013, 03:20:25 PM
Christie. The conservative wing is too crowded right now, but I expect that to sort itself out. The primary will be carnage.

Indeed. But fascinating and extremely fun to watch. Hopefully they'll be a decent Intrade replacement up somewhere by then.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: tmthforu94 on April 21, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
I think Christie still has the best shot, but his chances have lessened in recent months. Once he's been re-elected and can start focusing on a Presidential run, I expect him to shift to the right a bit in an effort to appease conservatives, and thus, will end up in a similar position to where Romney was in 2011, though he'll face stronger opposition than Romney did.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: NHI on April 21, 2013, 03:30:15 PM
1. Christie
2. Rubio
3. Bush
4. Martinez/Paul
5. Other...


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 21, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Rubio.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Miles on April 21, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
Even though there's lots of hate for him on the far-right, I went with Christie.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Blue3 on April 21, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
How does Christie even have a chance anymore?


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas on April 21, 2013, 05:01:39 PM
The vote split will help Christie rise to the top of a crowded field. By the time the momentum builds for one alternative, he'll have a huge lead and be unstoppable. He'll likely be forced to pick a right-wing VP, but he's the easy favorite.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: morgieb on April 21, 2013, 07:20:30 PM
Too early to say. Gut feel says that Christie is too unpopular with the Right to win, but if the invisible primary doesn't take it toll, he may be hard to stop.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Bull Moose Base on April 21, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
Christie is the most likely nominee/not likely to be the nominee.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Blue3 on April 21, 2013, 11:23:54 PM
The vote split will help Christie rise to the top of a crowded field. By the time the momentum builds for one alternative, he'll have a huge lead and be unstoppable. He'll likely be forced to pick a right-wing VP, but he's the easy favorite.
Or Christie is the Huntsman of 2016.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on April 22, 2013, 12:28:27 AM
I think it's gonna be between Rubio, Christie, Santorum, and Jeb Bush.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Zarn on April 22, 2013, 10:58:06 AM
How does Christie even have a chance anymore?

He doesn't. He's worse off than Rubio. Both are being blasted from the right.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: bballrox4717 on April 22, 2013, 01:08:42 PM
Didn't vote since it's too far out but my gut says a Republican governor that's not Chris Christie. The senators have too much baggage since every vote they make is scrutinized now.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mister Mets on April 22, 2013, 08:53:35 PM
The vote split will help Christie rise to the top of a crowded field. By the time the momentum builds for one alternative, he'll have a huge lead and be unstoppable. He'll likely be forced to pick a right-wing VP, but he's the easy favorite.
Or Christie is the Huntsman of 2016.
He seems to have advantages Huntsman didn't.

He starts as the top candidate in his category, while Huntsman had to compete with Romney.

He starts with higher name recognition.

And he's an impressive presence. At the very least, we're likely to get some good town hall videos with Christie.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mister Mets on April 22, 2013, 08:55:03 PM
Christie is the most likely nominee/not likely to be the nominee.

This is probably true. With a potentially crowded field, there is no Republican with a better than even chance of being the nominee.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: ShadowRocket on April 22, 2013, 10:50:09 PM
I still say Christie. I just have a hard time seeing the right-wing of the party being able to unite behind one candidate, and as it happened in '08 and '12, I think electability will trump ideological purity once again.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: publicunofficial on April 22, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
Rand Paul or Marco Rubio.

Christie will never be accepted by the primary voters, at least not without taking away everything that makes him appealing in the general election.



Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Illiniwek on April 23, 2013, 12:14:29 AM
I think Rubio is most likely, but I think I would take the field over Rubio. Something just tells me that he is going to fall out of this frontrunner status for one reason or another.

I would like to say it is going to be Christie, because he is probably the GOP's best shot at the White House, but he is not conservative enough for the primary voters. Romney had the benefit of some Democrats voting in the Republican primaries, since the Dem. primary was a given. Christie shouldn't have that luxury. The base doesn't look like its too willing to move left, so that rules out Christie.

Paul is too libertarian for the ones controlling the money.

I really think the candidate will end up being one of the much less currently talked about possibilities (not any of the 2012 candidates, Bush, Ryan, etc.). Voters might not want a candidate who has been a face of the GOP through such an unpopular time for the party. Look for someone like Thune, Walker, Portman, or Kasich to come in as a "fresh face".


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Green Line on April 23, 2013, 12:35:37 AM
Right now I would have to say Christie.  Rubio is intriguing, but I just can't see this immigration deal working out for him, nothing is going to pass and he will be severely weakened because of it.  Ryan is too young and not going to fire up the base.  Paul is gaining steam I think, and he is a lot more electable now than I ever would have thought initially after his Senate election.  However, Christie will be able to rally moderates and the establishment, so right now I see him as most likely. (Of course this will probably change a million times in the coming months)


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Bull Moose Base on April 23, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
Christie is the most likely nominee/not likely to be the nominee.

This is probably true. With a potentially crowded field, there is no Republican with a better than even chance of being the nominee.

How many Republicans are even better than even to run? I'd say Santorum, Paul, maybe Cruz and that's it. I don't think any Republican is much higher than 10% to be nominee or will be until 2015.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Cory on April 23, 2013, 11:39:46 AM
Voted Rubio, but I think Paul has a real shot.

Chris Christie will be the Rudy Giuliani of 2016, IMHO.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: TNF on April 23, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Jeb Bush has a toxic last name. Two failed Presidents in the family aren't going to do him any favors with the general public.

Christie has completely alienated the right-wing of the party.

My money is on Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Mister Mets on April 23, 2013, 11:16:37 PM
Christie is the most likely nominee/not likely to be the nominee.

This is probably true. With a potentially crowded field, there is no Republican with a better than even chance of being the nominee.

How many Republicans are even better than even to run? I'd say Santorum, Paul, maybe Cruz and that's it. I don't think any Republican is much higher than 10% to be nominee or will be until 2015.
I'd say Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul, Paul Ryan and Rick Santorum are more likely than not to run

Rick Santorum is close to certain, barring health issues. Followed by Chris Christie and Bobby Jindal. And then Rand Paul at something like 75% likelihood of running.

Paul Ryan's numbers have taken a beating, although he handled himself well enough as a Veep candidate. And you don't agree to the spot unless you're really ambitious.

I don't see immigration as a major issue for Rubio, but there is the Jeb question. There's probably a 40% chance he decides to sit out 2016.

Cruz has been making some moves, and the far right likes him. But it isn't clear how he'll hold up to national scrutiny.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: Maxwell on April 24, 2013, 04:17:40 PM
Christie eventually. Things look incredibly bleak now, but after Rubio, Paul, Santorum, Cruz, all these other candidates collapse, Christie will end up being a winner. Though, again, I would not count out Scott Walker, who seems to have his head on straight, not prone to immense flip flopping, nor does he seem prone to huge gaffes like some of these other candidates are.


Title: Re: Who is most likely to win the 2016 GOP presidential nomination?
Post by: DS0816 on April 24, 2013, 04:21:30 PM
There will be the thread of nominating someone who is fringe but the GOP will eventually come to support of an establishment choice.