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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on April 22, 2014, 05:38:24 PM



Title: Exit polls show Clinton would have carried CO in 1996 with no Perot
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on April 22, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
The consensus is that Perot took votes mostly from Dole, but in CO it appears he took at least 3% off of Clinton: http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html (http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html)


Title: Re: Exit polls show Clinton would have carried CO in 1996 with no Perot
Post by: Meursault on April 22, 2014, 06:01:23 PM
Perot probably hurt Clinton more generally in 1996 than Dole, owing to NAFTA.


Title: Re: Exit polls show Clinton would have carried CO in 1996 with no Perot
Post by: SPC on April 22, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
The consensus is that Perot took votes mostly from Dole, but in CO it appears he took at least 3% off of Clinton: http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html (http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html)

That exit poll also showed Perot voters splitting 34-28 Dole (with 34% abstaining), so I would think that result speaks more to flaws in the exit poll than Perot costing Clinton votes.


Title: Re: Exit polls show Clinton would have carried CO in 1996 with no Perot
Post by: sg0508 on April 22, 2014, 09:14:35 PM
CO was too close in '96 to really take exit polls seriously. It would have come down to final count. Who knows?


Title: Re: Exit polls show Clinton would have carried CO in 1996 with no Perot
Post by: "'Oeps!' De blunders van Rick Perry Indicted" on April 22, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
The consensus is that Perot took votes mostly from Dole, but in CO it appears he took at least 3% off of Clinton: http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html (http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/ELECTION/COPxp.html)

That exit poll also showed Perot voters splitting 34-28 Dole (with 34% abstaining), so I would think that result speaks more to flaws in the exit poll than Perot costing Clinton votes.

Yeah, the exit poll is wrong - if you do the math on the gender split, Clinton does better in the exit poll (44.76%) than he did IRL (44.43%). I've noticed the same thing happens with 2000  - the "revised" exits overestimated Bush in Florida and New Hampshire, so you sometimes get arguments that Nader didn't really cost Gore those states.

Speaking of Nader, he was on the ballot in CO in '96 and did rather well (almost 2%). So that would explain part of Clinton's loss.