Talk Elections

Bouncing off Starwatcher's idea , what if other countries became states? Which color "state" would they be? Fun thing to think about.

Not Atlas Colors

England: blue
Canada: purple
Mexico: blue
India: red at first, descend into purple
Australia: red
Japan: blue by mistake
Russia: red. I'm so punny

Any others?

Don't most polls indicate that Western nations would vote 75%+ Dem?

Atlas Colors:

Canada - Red
All of central America - Red
South America W/O Argentina - Red
Argentina - Blue

Western Europe - Likely Democrat, but drifting towards Atlas Blue (opposite process of Texas and Georgia)

More Specific WE:
United Kingdom - Tossup
Ireland - Red
Portugal - Red
Spain - Red
France - Red
Germany - Blue
Switzerland - Yellow (Libertarian)
Italy - Red
Iceland - Blue
Austria - Blue
Denmark - Tossup
Netherlands - Red
Belgium - Red
Luxembourg - Blue

Eastern Europe - Safe Republican
Czech Republic - Blue
Slovakia - Blue
Serbia - Royal Blue
Bosnia - Red
Kosovo - Red
Croatia - Blue
Greece - Royal Blue
Bulgaria - Blue
Moldova - Red
Hungary - Royal Blue
Poland - Blue
Norway - Red
Sweden - Red
Finland - Red
Latvia - Blue
Lithuania - Blue
Estonia - Blue
Russia - Royal Blue
Belarus - Tossup
Ukraine - Tossup
Other Former Soviet States - Blue

Rest of the world coming soon.

lol no

Really, why would the most atheistic country in the West vote for the Faith-Family-Freedom party?

India is very socialist, I don't see them voting Republican.

Seriously, there are very few countries that would vote for the Republicans. In most countries, they would be a fringe far-right party. Like the FN in France or whatever.

Colombia, Perú and Chile: Republican.

Argentina and Uruguay: Democrat.

Brazil: toss-up

Costa Rica: Democrat.

Rest of Central-America: Republicans.

UK might just have picked Nixon over Kennedy, might have went for Ford and probably would have went for Bush 1. After that however it would become an increasingly safer Democratic state.

This assumes that if the rest of the world could vote in US elections that either the two major parties had not shifted ideologically to interact with this highly different electorate, and also that the other countries in question had not evolved political preferences that were similar to those of the United States.

Poland seems like it would be receptive to the Republicans, if the current composition of the Sejm is any indication.

I expect the GOP would have relatively little "strongholds" compared to the Democrats. My first impressions Republican potential heartlands include: Alberta - with the potential to swing other prairie states; West Australia and Queensland; conservative Asian societies like Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Indian BJP strongholds; Poland, Hungary and various other anti-communist East Europe countries; Ireland fifteen years ago; Bavaria; Alpine Europe; and Chile.

Of course, the premise is ridiculous; but an interesting thought excercise nonetheless.

 

The Republicans are not "far-right", in any European sense of the term.

This.

As much as this forum would like to believe, the republican party is not a far-right party in any way (Assuming far-right is being used correctly).

I really don't know what countries would vote D/R. All I know is most of western and northern Europe would vote democratic.

I wonder; which party would have to alter its platform more?

Republicans, if they want to attract religious conservatives who aren't just Christian.

Iran - Republicans

The Republican opposition to universal healthcare is a complete non starter in any other developed nation. People who have a guaranteed right to medical treatment without the risk of  complete financial ruin generally like it.

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Is this a serious question?

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Republicans do well in the middle east and Russia.
Democrats do well most places.

Israeli is maybe the only country that would vote Republican.

Anyone answering more than 1 or 2 has no clue what they're talking about.

I encourage the OP to post this in the international discussion section so that people with more energy than me can point out all the ways he's completely uninformed.

Sure, we know how much the GOP loves Muslims and wants to make nice with Iran.   

Maybe if Rand Paul is nominated.

I didn't say Iran was a perfect fit for the GOP, but they only have two choices. The typical beliefs of the average Iranian line up a lot better with the Republicans than with the Democrats.

This is absolutely correct. Republicans would win most, if not all, African countries. There might be a couple of outliers though, including South Africa. Republicans would also win most, possibly all, muslim countries. The only muslim countries in question would be the less staunchly so, like Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey. Asia would probably be a mixture of Democratic and Republican, yet with a slight edge for Democrats. Australia would probably be toss up, or close to it, yet all other Western countries, including Canada and basically the entire Latin America (countries like Jamaica and Haiti might perhaps go Republican at first) will be more or less heavily Democratic. In Western Europe, the only countries which would even consider voting Republican would be Malta, Greece and Italy. In Eastern Europe, a majority would vote Republican, but definitely not all. Estonia and Czech Republic almost certainly would vote Democratic for instance.

The idea that any European country would vote Republican is ludicrous.

Maybe Belarus.

If Republicans were to start making anti-gay rhetoric a big issue again, be certain that the vast majority of Eastern European countries would immediately vote Republican. There are some exceptions though, luckily. Like Estonia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, perhaps Slovakia and Croatia.

The Republicans probably wouldn't win any European countries but they wouldn't be quite as fringe as many seem to believe, take for example the fact that when John McCain was holding a Senate hearing for Obama's appointment to be ambassador to Norway he asked some questions that implied strong disapproval of the Progress Party, which was in government and for awhile was even the largest right wing party in Norway. The guy's bungling of the questions got more press, but regardless you have the party's 2008 candidate condemning a mainstream right wing party as too extreme.

The real reason the Republicans couldn't exist in any other country is they are too big and diverse. For example it's not too difficult to see both Merkel-esque asuterity forcing neoliberal supporters and anti-EU UKIP types as Republicans in the US and you can think of plenty of examples of Republicans that would be both, but both clearly can't be in the same party if those were the issues. The same is also true of the Democrats, who are probably the most ideologically diverse party in the world aside from parties that are really just essentially ideology-less political machines.

Of course, in the real world, other countries care about American politics in large part because of US foreign policy.  The Republicans are the more nationalist of the two major parties, so they're less popular in other countries, just as nationalist parties in other countries are also less popular outside their home nation's borders.

If we're now imagining a scenario in which foreign countries can vote in US elections….how does that work?  Is the scenario that they're now US states, and so they have to live with whatever domestic policies the Democrats or Republicans they elect support?  In that case, they probably wouldn't care nearly as much about foreign policy as they do now.  The whole hypothetical doesn't really make much sense, so not sure how to answer.

I think most of the Middle East would vote Republican, as well as much of Eastern Europe and parts of Asia. Western Europe, South America, Africa, parts of Asia, and the remainder of North America would vote Dem.

I have no idea what you think the "typical beliefs of the average Iranian" are but I suspect they'd be trumped by not wanting to be bombed or have economic sanctions against their country.

As fringe as France's biggest party, you mean? :P

Iran would be a state, not a country.

Australia is very conservative.

EDIT: Just saw what you said at the top.

I think Mexico would vote Republican out of social conservatism.

Australia is not very conservative in the American sense. It's pretty conservative compared to other Western nations though. It's one of the few country's where the Republicans could be a serious party.

As for Mexico, they already have a local version of the Republican Party and it's never come anywhere close to a majority (although it has won a plurality in the past).

In its current state, it is, especially with the Abbott led government. But, what do I know, I just lived there.

Ah, I stand corrected there.

First, Obama vs Romney may not be a great comparison just because this would assume these countries would be assimilated into American politics (name recognition and popularity as head of a country would be possible confounders here), but obviously those that show a high margin would be more Democrat.

My opinion: 
North America:  Canada D, Mexico Tossup (social conservatism + tough on crime vs economic populism), Haiti D, DOminican Republic D, many of the small islands:  wealthier ones R poorer ones D
South America:  Argentina-D (they have a real command economy there and are socially liberal, I'm surprised others put R), Chile-R, Uruguay-D, Bolivia/Peru/Ecuador/Venezuela-D
Africa:  All D except Botswana, pockets of South Africa, Namibia, Ecuatorial Guinea, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt (which would all range from Toss-up/Tilt D to lean R)
Europe-East is conservative, West is all D except for Ireland
Middle East-assuming that the US is a country annexing all others, the Middle East would lean R due to a "North Dakota Effect"(having all the oil) plus social conservatism, even if it's a different religion.  Poorer countries like Pakistan would likely lean D though, as would Yemen.  UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait would be R strongholds. 
Asia:  Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan - Strong R; China-R in the cities, D in the countryside; India-probably quite D; Australia/New Zealand-Probably both lean R; Russia-Lean R I guess

Somalia and Yemen would support Republican positions on gun rights, gays and womens issues. Saudi-Arabia and the Gulf states would also be solidly GOP due to oil and social conservatism.

The last election was about 53.5% for the Liberal/National coalition vs. 46.5% for the ALP. Even with 90% of the Liberal/National voters, the Republicans still lose.

Why do Americans seem to be under the apprehension that their country has reached a level of conservatism hitherto unknown to the world?

Sure I think the Tea Party are a bunch of sillies, but the sort of things that they complain could be heard from any right-wing nut on the planet.

The Liberal Coalition won so the Republicans would lose? Que?

No the point is they didn't win by all that wide of a margin. And they lost the last two elections, even if not hugely. But the ALP candidates were also not all that appealing.

Let's just put it this way, what percentage of the Coalition voters do you think would vote Republican? Obviously if it's 100% then they win. But I don't think it's a stretch to say there's enough people in places like affluent north Sydney suburbs that wouldn't stick with the Republicans. Remember it doesn't even have to be a majority or even close, if the Coalition loses even 10% of their voters, then they lose the last election.