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Title: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
Crist 44.0
Scott 43.8
Wyllie 6

Crist leads 47-46 in a head to head, as Wyllie supporters go to Crist 43-18

Developing...


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Thomas D on November 02, 2014, 06:12:00 PM
PublicPolicyPolling ‏  @ppppolls 
To give you an idea of just how this close this final Florida poll came out- 526 respondents picked Crist, 524 picked Scott


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Matty on November 02, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Absolutely devastating news for Scott.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 02, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Devils30 on November 02, 2014, 06:15:32 PM
Before Republicans dismiss this poll, PPP has had a handful of R leaning polls before. Had Obama's margin less than what he got in 2012 in MI, WA, WI, IA by a lot.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 06:16:43 PM
No poll has shown the criminal ahead since mid September, and Dems are performing extremely strongly in the early voting relative to 2010 (when the criminal won by a single point). Checkpoint Charlie will send the criminal to the hole on Tuesday.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Devils30 on November 02, 2014, 06:20:15 PM
It's just weird how "Other" has 12%. The libertarian may be relatively strong but there's no way third parties are getting 12%, at least I don't think so. Still, third parties getting 6-8% is plausible because these candidates are equally terrible.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 06:23:47 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.

The RCP average in 2010 had Scott up 1.2. He won by 1.2. It now has Crist up 1.2, and Dems have cut the GOP early voting advantage from 13% in 2010 to a 4% advantage now. The criminal is finished.

Granted, the race never should've been this close to begin with, but that's a testament to the stupidity of the people of Florida more than anything else.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 02, 2014, 06:26:27 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.

The RCP average in 2010 had Scott up 1.2. He won by 1.2. It now has Crist up 1.2, and Dems have cut the GOP early voting advantage from 13% in 2010 to a 4% advantage now. The criminal is finished.

Granted, the race never should've been this close to begin with, but that's a testament to the stupidity of the people of Florida more than anything else.

And the many millions of dollars Scott stole from the government that he has spent on ads.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 02, 2014, 06:28:00 PM
PPP's last florida poll in 2012 had 474 respondents choosing Obama, 473 choosing Romney, and Obama won. Not saying they will be definitely right again, just that they have a history of being right in extremely close florida races.

My polling average shows a meaningless Crist lead of 0.53%, which isn't very helpful in predicting this.

Assuming no other polls are released here, I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that Crist wins, but with less than 50%. The libertarian will probably fall to 5-6%.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Flake on November 02, 2014, 06:29:50 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.

The RCP average in 2010 had Scott up 1.2. He won by 1.2. It now has Crist up 1.2, and Dems have cut the GOP early voting advantage from 13% in 2010 to a 4% advantage now. The criminal is finished.

Granted, the race never should've been this close to begin with, but that's a testament to the stupidity of the people of Florida more than anything else.

No, it's a testament to the $70 million Scott has spent so far compared to the $30 million Crist spent. The only reason it's close is because of all the money he's throwing at the state but w/e floats your boat.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: KCDem on November 02, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
It's over. The Criminal will be sent to solitary on Tuesday. Glorious news :D


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Maxwell on November 02, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
The last PPP poll had Crist up 2, so according to PPP, he's actually lost ground. lol.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 02, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
The last PPP poll had Crist up 2, so according to PPP, he's actually lost ground. lol.
Rather have a criminal than a tangerine.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Panda Express on November 02, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
The last PPP poll had Crist up 2, so according to PPP, he's actually lost ground. lol.

I'm telling you guys, it's the shout-out from Pitbull. Probably negated the fan controversy


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Miles on November 02, 2014, 07:04:56 PM
Assuming no other polls are released here, I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that Crist wins, but with less than 50%. The libertarian will probably fall to 5-6%.

That a not really going out on a limb.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Sbane on November 02, 2014, 07:07:50 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.

You like having criminals in elected office, huh?


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Recalcuate on November 02, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
The last PPP poll had Crist up 2, so according to PPP, he's actually lost ground. lol.
Rather have a criminal than a tangerine.

What political party is the Florida perm-a-tan version of John Boehner caucusing with this week again?

How is someone as unprincipled as Crist the best the Democrats could do in Florida?


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
If a Florida Dem is tied at this point, they lose on the ground. Scott the Survivor.

The RCP average in 2010 had Scott up 1.2. He won by 1.2. It now has Crist up 1.2, and Dems have cut the GOP early voting advantage from 13% in 2010 to a 4% advantage now. The criminal is finished.

Granted, the race never should've been this close to begin with, but that's a testament to the stupidity of the people of Florida more than anything else.

No, it's a testament to the $70 million Scott has spent so far compared to the $30 million Crist spent. The only reason it's close is because of all the money he's throwing at the state but w/e floats your boat.

Would John Edwards win an election again in NC if he had a good PR team and a $100 million war chest?


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: windjammer on November 02, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
Crist is as appealing as Mcauliffe,
Sorry guys, but Ii still believe the criminal will be reelected.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 02, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
The last PPP poll had Crist up 2, so according to PPP, he's actually lost ground. lol.
Rather have a criminal than a tangerine.

What political party is the Florida perm-a-tan version of John Boehner caucusing with this week again?

How is someone as unprincipled as Crist the best the Democrats could do in Florida?
They are the Florida Dems. They always pick lousy candidates.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Ljube on November 02, 2014, 07:27:03 PM
I'd like to remind the posters with short memory that Christ used to be a Republican before he became a Democrat, not so long ago.
That can play into the equation as well. Nobody likes turncoats.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Maxwell on November 02, 2014, 07:28:02 PM
I'd like to remind the posters with short memory that Christ used to be a Republican before he became a Democrat, not so long ago.
That can play into the equation as well. Nobody likes turncoats.


You're on a forum full of politics junkies, I don't think anybody here has forgotten.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Devils30 on November 02, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
The cross tabs should scare the GOP. Nearly every undecided is in the age 18-44 range and Hispanics are still 15% undecided.


Title: FL: Public Policy Polling: Exact tie
Post by: Miles on November 02, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
New Poll: Florida Governor by Public Policy Polling on 2014-11-02 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=1220141102108)

Summary: D: 44%, R: 44%, I: 6%, U: 6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/FLResults.pdf)


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 09:30:11 PM
The cross tabs should scare the GOP. Nearly every undecided is in the age 18-44 range and Hispanics are still 15% undecided.

And this result, along with Sarvis in 2013 and Umbehr this year, should challenge the conventional wisdom that "libertarians always hurt Republicans".


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 02, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Democrats sure are optimistic if they think a poll showing the race tied means they're going to win.

Crist probably has a slight edge, but nothing would really surprise me here.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: IceSpear on November 02, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
Democrats sure are optimistic if they think a poll showing the race tied means they're going to win.

Crist probably has a slight edge, but nothing would really surprise me here.

It's just one poll. If you combine it with Quinnipiac, SUSA, and the early voting numbers, it's not hard to see why Dems should be optimistic. Plus, this very poll shows Crist has more room to grow.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: Devils30 on November 02, 2014, 09:46:42 PM
Michigan has this same trend with younger voters but Illinois did not. Pretty amazing if Quinn can pull it out with 31% approval in a two way race.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Exact tie
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 02, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
But decimals (red herring)!