Talk Elections

Looking at the electoral maps, it is possible to find these examples

New Orleans
Philadelphia
Chicago
Detroit
Austin

Los Angeles and San Francisco
Portland
Seattle (if we consider that the Pacific states are still conservative)

New Orleans and Austin are the only ones that are actually in conservative states.

Salt Lake City (suburbs are insane though)
Lawrence

There are a bunch, so I won't list all of them. But generally D cities in conservative states will generally be heavily minority, or hipster havens, often with a college town element. Or both. There is generally not going to be much of a D-leaning constituency that doesn't belong to the two previous demographics.  Obviously there are exceptions, but that's generally what the D-voting cities in most of atlas blue America are.

STL, MO
Charleston, WVA
Indianapolis, IND
Wake Forest, NC
Atlanta, GA
Phoenix, AZ

It's easier to list conservative cities in conservative states - if we're just talking about actual central cities (not suburbs).

In most central cities these days, the average person is about as conservative as I am.

I remember posting here about how Obama had won 10 of Kentucky's 11 largest cities.

lol

Jackson, Mississippi is perhaps one of the best examples that I can think of.

There are a crap load. Cities are usually much more liberal than outside areas. In fact, I'll do one for every state Romney won.

AL - Montgomery
AK - Juneau
AZ - Tucson
AR - Little Rock
GA - Atlanta
ID - Boise
IN - Indianapolis
KS - Lawrence
KY - Louisville
LA - New Orleans
MS - Jackson
MO - Kansas City
MT - Missoula
NE - Lincoln
NC - Durham
ND - Fargo?
OK - ?
SC - Columbia
SD - Sioux Falls?
TN - Nashville
TX - Austin
UT - Salt Lake City
WV - Charleston?
WY - Laramie?

Besides Louisville, Lexington, and Frankfort, which cities in Kentucky voted for Obama?

Oh, and there are a ton of Conservatives in Louisville.  Jefferson county was less than 55% Democrat and before Yarmuth there was a Republican Representative for the third district.  And parts of Oldham County are populated by Conservative people who used to live in Louisville.

Covington, Newport, Bellevue, Dayton, Ludlow, Silver Grove, Woodlawn, Bowling Green, Hopkinsville, Owensboro, Henderson, Morehead, Ashland, Paducah, Kenton Vale, Berea, Elizabethtown, Winchester, Richmond, Lebanon, Warsaw, Carrollton...

Sure, Jackson may be one of the most Democratic-voting cities in the country but I don't think it could be called particularly liberal.

As far as the OP's question, I think that Austin, Atlanta, and Salt Lake.

Is this 2008, or 2012?

Everyone from Carrollton who I've met seems like the type of person who would vote Republican.

2012.

I imagine that it was close in most of those cities?  Because Romney won Carroll County, Christian County, etc.

It was pretty close in most of them.

1) It's not a hard phenomena to observe at all considering basically every municipality that would be considered a major city in the United States voted for Obama.

2) Saying that Illinois is a conservative state without Chicago is a standard that could be applied to practically every state outside of New England. Rural areas tend to be very conservative and so, yeah, if you take the cities out of states, the states are conservative.

\And still get whooped in Kentucky both times.

California without 3rd world LA or SF would be a swing state.  Folks feel as if their voice does not matter in real CA

Would not put Indianapolis in here at ALL.

Real California?  Give me a f***ing break.  

Even if you remove LA and SF county, Obama would have beaten Romney by 1.43 million votes and would have gotten more than 57% of the vote.


As for the question, I think Kansas City could also be described as a liberal city in a conservative state(s).

Well that would be ban-worthy.

Except the Republican dominated Deep South is much more like the third world than every other region.

So are L.A. and SF residents imaginary?

Well, we can thank decades of Democratic rule there for that region lagging behind. :)

The Deep South was still ruled by conservative right-wingers that had much more in common with today's Republican today than with today's Democratic party.

This thread is meaningless since just about every large city is more liberal than its state.

Ehh, saying they were economic progressives is a bit much. The South did pass right-to-work, after all. And there were some segments of Southern Democrats--like the Byrd Machine in VA--which were pretty economically conservative.

The south was at one point much poorer relative to the country than it was today. The New Deal which was supported by most southern democrats was instrumental in bringing economic development and eventually urbanization to the south. Without the wealth it gained as a result, mid-century republican gains in the south would have slowed considerably. The reason why the south is poor began before the democratic solid south, when the region's economy was built on a mode of agriculture which relied on a large underclass.

Also extremely important in the increasing prosperity in the South in this time period was outsourcing from the North to the cheaper, less unionized South.

I have to wonder how people who relocate to the South react when they find out they can't unionize. I'd be furious.

Yes, but it's much harder than elsewhere, due to repressive "right-to-work" laws.

They drink some sweet tea and think "hmm, good trade".

Since when are Pennsylvania, Illinois, Michigan, and the west coast states conservative?  New Orleans and Austin are the only cities on this list that are in especially conservative states.  You can thank the University of Texas for making Austin a liberal city.

I'm not an expert on much of U.S history, but I am surprised here to read that most Southern Democratic Congressman supported the New Deal.  Didn't Roosevelt organize a slate of primary opponents against many of them in one cycle?

Via the wiki mayor's page.  37 of the 50 biggest cities have either elected Democratic mayors, independent mayors who are Democrats or one independent mayor who is backed by Democrats.  I believe San Diego is the largest city to have a Republican mayor.

Even Faulconer is a very liberal Republican.  He is a supporter of gay marriage and he has also been active on issues such as poverty and homelessness, which are usually considered Democratic issues.
His position that is probably closer to that of the U.S. Republican party is his opposition to sales tax increases, but even that is a left-leaning position, since the sales' tax is a regressive tax that hurts lower income consumers more than it hurts the rich.

Is Albuquerque the biggest city with a Tea Party mayor?

Here is an article on Roosevelt's attempt to primary other Democrats:
http://prospect.org/article/frustrated-his-own-party-0

As much as I hate to admit it, the south grew a great deal more than the US average between the New Deal and 1980. Since, then it kind of just stagnated and the north has been able to grow much faster. Whether that's a good or bad thing and the causes of it can be debated - the US average itself is pretty consistent. Just the general rural nature of the region and large distances between cities has got to be part of it which is why they need public projects. They started off poorer through no fault of their own, but one party did help them catch up, and it's not the one they're voting for.

Of course there are hundreds of other problems and solutions. A stronger banking industry would have done wonders had they not opposed it for all of history. That would have countered some of the problems they face.

What parts of the South? Because huge swaths of it have seen humungous growth up until today--I don't generally think of, say, Williamson County, TN as a poor, declining place...

Oh, well, of course, the south has some good places - I was just generally speaking about the Southeast as a whole.

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Of course, you couldn't expect the south to go up forever as you'd expect it to settle in at 100 (or just a bit under 100 for the reasons I mentioned above), but it really has failed to catch up at all, and the trend line starting in 1980 can't be just a coincidence especially when New England manages to do so well in that timeframe (private resources being diverted to states with strong banking systems due to deregulation).

And also just to clarify - I wasn't saying the South is in decline - just that its growth has been lagging since a specific revolutionary point in history.

You are such a drone. It is as if you're living in a different universe, frankly.

I didn't know that about him. Although to be accurate, I don't know anything about him including his first name, I didn't even know his last name :)  That said, San Diego used to be a conservative Republican city with mayor Roger Hedgecock (or something like that) who I believe has guest hosted for Rush Dimbaugh.

Liberal Republicans in Democratic strongholds aren't extinct. Checking new Massachusetts governor Charlie Baker's web site, he's even more liberal than me on some issues.  If he actually governs like a liberal remains to be seen.

Yes, that's accurate.  It's also why most segregationists would never have joined the GOP after Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act; they saw the GOP as the party of wealthy elitists and Northeastern bankers, who they hated almost as much for their wealth as for their support of civil rights.