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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Presidential Election Process => Topic started by: A18 on April 22, 2005, 06:16:08 PM



Title: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: A18 on April 22, 2005, 06:16:08 PM
Will the legislature enact a Maine/Nebraska style CD split for the presidential election of 2008?


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Erc on April 22, 2005, 07:42:54 PM
Oh no...
Oh God No...
Oh Dear God No...

PA-13 is bad enough as it is with only one measly House seat up for grabs...I shudder at the horrid possibilities if it were to gain an electoral vote of its own...


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: J. J. on April 22, 2005, 09:08:52 PM
They didn't do it before 1996, 2000, or before 2002 for 2004.

While the GOP might lose PA-13; it would definitely win PA-9.  It would be a net plus for the GOP.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: DanielX on April 23, 2005, 04:13:19 PM
Will the legislature enact a Maine/Nebraska style CD split for the presidential election of 2008?

Yes. That would be a good thing... unless both parties start gerrymandering like drunken sailors. That might make things interesting... :P


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Max Power on April 23, 2005, 04:23:01 PM
That's one thing I don't get. Politicians always talk about partisanship, yet they are bipartisan on gerrymandering. The Gerrymander will never be an endangered species.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: nini2287 on July 21, 2005, 02:41:07 AM
I would probably vote for the amendment even if it cost Democrats EVs in the long run.  It is the right thing to do as it puts power closer to the poeple.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on July 21, 2005, 09:48:10 AM
I'd only support it if they re-draw the congressional districts; the current ones are disgusting


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Jake on July 21, 2005, 01:41:21 PM
I certainly hope not. A good GOP campaign can win PA, but even if the state popular vote was something like 55-45 GOP, there would be a 6-7 CDs that we couldn't win.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: nini2287 on July 21, 2005, 02:52:51 PM
I certainly hope not. A good GOP campaign can win PA, but even if the state popular vote was something like 55-45 GOP, there would be a 6-7 CDs that we couldn't win.

If it was 55-45, you'd win everything but PA-1, 2, 13 (probably, because it would probably be a pretty populist-lean Republican) and 14.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: TexasPatriot2024 on August 01, 2005, 10:01:04 PM
I'd only support it if they re-draw the congressional districts; the current ones are disgusting

Haha.... they tried that here in Texas. Maybe you remember our Democrat representitives leaving the state to protest. Thats a messy situation, but quite funny when you come to think of it.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 01, 2005, 10:01:19 PM
Oh no...
Oh God No...
Oh Dear God No...

PA-13 is bad enough as it is with only one measly House seat up for grabs...I shudder at the horrid possibilities if it were to gain an electoral vote of its own...

Oh, grow up. No one forces you to read what we say.

If it was an electoral vote of it's own, the only candidates who could win it would be McCain and maybe Romney. It wouldn't attract as much attention as a House race.

And while it was brought up, we probably won't do it.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Jake on August 01, 2005, 10:11:30 PM
I certainly hope not. A good GOP campaign can win PA, but even if the state popular vote was something like 55-45 GOP, there would be a 6-7 CDs that we couldn't win.

If it was 55-45, you'd win everything but PA-1, 2, 13 (probably, because it would probably be a pretty populist-lean Republican) and 14.

I'll have to look at the PA-11 results again, but you're right with 4-5.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Gustaf on August 11, 2005, 02:48:12 PM
Isn't the problem that a state that reduces itself to like 5 EVs (since the rest would be secure for either party) makes itself much less politically relevant? It doesn't matter as much for small states like Maine or Nebraska, but a major battleground like Pennsylvania most likely wouldn't go for it.

I dislike the idea myself because a) it seems to produce less democratic results (it would have increased Bush's margin over Gore and, I think, produced a Ford victory in 1976) and b) it makes the political process even more vulnerable to manipulation (i.e. gerrymandering).


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: GOP = Terrorists on November 21, 2005, 11:51:08 PM
Yes. That would be a good thing... unless both parties start gerrymandering like drunken sailors. That might make things interesting... :P

Bah Penn is already gerrymandered for the GOP.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on November 22, 2005, 12:03:31 PM
Either every state needs to do it, or none of them do.

That being said, I do think it would be friggin awesome if the Dem-leaning states did it while GOP-leaning states kept the winner take all EV's :)


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: minionofmidas on December 13, 2005, 10:58:51 AM
I'd only support it if they re-draw the congressional districts; the current ones are disgusting

Haha.... they tried that here in Texas. Maybe you remember our Democrat representitives leaving the state to protest. Thats a messy situation, but quite funny when you come to think of it.
I suggest you re-draw the congressional districts; the current ones are disgusting.


Title: Re: If a GOP governor is elected in Pennsylvania...
Post by: Alcon on December 13, 2005, 10:47:14 PM
WA's congressional districts may not make a lick of sense, but at least they are fair and reasonably competitive.