Title: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 07:32:12 AM One thing that always struck me when I redistricted all of the US way back was that I just plain didn't like my seats to be this large.
So...I've started to redistrict the US into seats about the size of British or French constituencies (or for the state House of Hessen)...roughly 100,000 inhabitants. Obviously this would make for an impractically large House of Reps, so don't tell me that. I already know. :) Okay, some rules: 1. Each state is apportioned a number of seats based on its population divided by 100,000, rounded up or down. This number will not be deviated from under any circumstances. No seat will straddle two states under any circumstances. 2. This is then distributed to the counties. Each county is apportioned (etc to) down. However, seats will not be allowed to deviate by more than 20% from 100,000 except in special circumstances. (I decide what a special circumstance is. There won't be many. There might not be any.) As a result of this rule, any county of 80,000-120,000 inhabitants is awarded one seat. Any county of 160,000-240,000 inhabitants is awarded two seats. (Any county of 250,000-350,000 inhabitants is awarded three seats and so forth after that.) 3. Smaller counties will be grouped together to create the remaining districts. 4. A county of 120,000-160,000 inhabitants will be granted one whole seat that will only include part of the county. The remainder of the county will be paired with smaller counties. Similarly, a county of 240,000-250,000 inhabitants will be granted two whole seats plus a remainder. 5. If challenging geography requires it, minor deviations from all rules but rule 1 are allowable. 6. If a county is to be split, I'll line out which townships/Census Bureau subdivisions/whatever go into which district. In the larger counties, these things will be awarded seats just like counties are, except I'll be somewhat more lenient with the rules. 7. I won't carve up large subdivisions into detailed seats, although I may sometimes provide a rough outline of what seats might look like. 8. I'll try and produce fancy names for the seats, rather along the lines of the British ones. These go by their own subset of rules: a. Place, river and mountain names, but mostly place names. The disgusting and Australian habit of naming seats after people will be frowned upon. b. Names composed of one to three parts, plus cardinal points where necessary. c. County and County subdivision names used only when they are reasonably uncommon (this is to avoid having two dozen Jefferson constituencies) However, I'll probably leave quite a lot of these blank - especially in the cities, where I won't actually have lined out where the seats are exactly. Plus I'll sometimes give alternative suggestions. 9. Because I've usually always worked my way through the US East to West, I'll begin on the Pacific this time. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 07:52:15 AM HAWAII
1,211 mio inhabitants 12 seats Honolulu County - 876K inhabitants 9 seats Hawaii County - 149K inhabitants 1+1 seats Maui County - 128K inhabitants 1+1 seats. As that leaves no representation to Kauai (58K) and Kalawao (basically 0) counties, Kauai will share one of the Honolulu county seats while Kalawao will share the Maui seat. Hawaii and Maui will share a seat. In Honolulu County, Honolulu CCD (372K) is entitled to 4 seats, Ewa CCD (272K) to 3 seats and Koolaupoko CCD (118K) to 1 seat. Since this leaves a horribly oversized (171K) North Oahu-Kauai seat, I have decided that Honolulu and Ewa will have 3 and 2 whole seats respectively, and share a sixth. Seats: HILO Hawaii County CCD's of Hilo, Keaau - Mountain View, North Hilo, Pahoa - Kalapana, Papaikau - Wailea, and Kau. Population 87K. HAWAII WEST (or: KONA) - MAUI (NORTH) EAST Remaining Hawaii County CCDs; Maui County CCD's of Hailu - Pauela, Hana, Makewao - Paia. Hope I spelled these right. Population 91K. MAUI WEST (& MOLOKAI) Remaining Maui County CCDs; Kalawao County. Population 100K. HONOLULU 1-3 No details available, but likely to be arranged east to west. EWA 1 & 2 No details available, but one seat on the Northern & Western shores of Pearl Harbor (perhaps named Pearl Harbor) and one seat combining the center of the island around Mililani Town with the areas immediately northeast of Pearl Harbor appears likely. HONOLULU / EWA No details available, but would obviously include the (north?-)westernmost part of Honolulu and southeastern Ewa around Aiea, and might well be named Aiea. KOOLAUPOKO CCD of that name (island's Eastern coast.) Population 118K. OAHU NORTH WEST Waianae, Waialua and Wahiawa CCDs. Population 94K. KAUAI & KOOLAULOA Koolauloa CCD; Kauai County. Population 77K. I have not been able to split the area into two districts of over 80K population without splitting a CCD. Given that this seat is already disadvantaged due to the large distance betwwn its Oahu part and Kauai, I have decided to let it be. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 07:59:52 AM ALASKA
627K inhabitants 6 seats Anchorage Municipality - 260K inhabitants 3 seats Fairbanks North Star Borough - 83K inhabitants 1 seat As that leaves the remainder of the state with 284K inhabitants and just 2 seats, I have grouped Kenai Peninsula Borough (50K) with Anchorage. (I tried Matanuska-Susitna Borough with 60K at first, but it made for a very ugly split between the two vast rural constituencies.) ANCHORAGE WEST (or NORTH) ANCHORAGE EAST (or SOUTH) KENAI PENINSULA & ANCHORAGE SOUTH (or EAST) no details available FAIRBANKS Fairbanks North Star Borough, 83K PANHANDLE & ALASKA SOUTH (or some such name) Bristol Bay, Aleutians East, Lake & Peninsula, Kodiak Island, Yakutat boroughs, Aleutians West, Valdez-Cordova, Southeast Fairbanks census areas, and all boroughs and census areas south of Yakutat. 115K inhabitants. ALASKA NORTH (or maybe something more colourful...BERING STRAIT perhaps?) All other boroughs and census areas. 120K inhabitants (half of them in Mat-Su, and most of the rest Inuit from the West coast...should make for interesting elections :) ) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 26, 2005, 08:22:38 AM I likes this idea
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 08:37:43 AM now for the first real test...
WASHINGTON 5,894 mio inhabitants 59 seats Whatcom - 167K inhabitants 2 seats Skagit - 103K inhabitants 1 seat Snohomish - 606K inhabitants 6 seats King - 1737K inhabitants 18 seats, for reasons I'll make clear in a minute Kitsap - 231K inhabitants 2 seats Pierce - 701K inhabitants 7 seats Thurston - 207K inhabitants 2 seats Clark - 345K inhabitants 3 seats Cowlitz - 93K inhabitants 1 seat Yakima - 223K inhabitants 2 seats Benton - 142K inhabitants 1+1 seat Spokane - 417K inhabitants 4 seats Due to unfortunate rounding, that leaves just 922K inhabitants but 10+1 seats, in areas that, for the most part, are not fast growing. Moreover, the distribution of the population in King County was such that I had to distribute 9 seats to Seattle CCD (897K) and 5 seats to East Seattle CCD (480K) and was left with three seats for 360K people in for the most part very fast growing regions. Therefore I gave that extra seat mentioned above to (outer) King County, and just 9+1 seats to rural Washington. JUAN DE FUCA San Juan, Island counties. 85K inhabitants OLYMPIC PENINSULA Clallam, Jefferson counties. 91K inhabitants GRAYS HARBOR (& HOOD CANAL) Grays Harbor, Mason counties. 117K inhabitants BREMERTON & PORT ORCHARD Port Orchard CCD (61K) and part of Bremerton CCD (102K) mostly centered on the city of Bremerton (37K) which is situated in the southern part of Bremerton CCD. KITSAP NORTH Remainder of Kitsap County. BELLINGHAM Bellingham CCD (92K), minus the Sudden Valley area WHATCOM Remainder of Whatcom County. 74K inhabitants, plus at least 6,000 people from the Sudden Valley area SKAGIT Skagit County. 103K inhabitants MARYSVILLE & STANWOOD (or SNOHOMISH NORTH WEST) Stanwood, Tulalip, Marysville, Arlington CCDs of Snohomish County. 115K inhabitants SNOHOMISH (EAST) Darrington, Granite Falls, Skykomish, Monroe, Lake Stevens, Snohomish CCDs. 100K inhabitants EVERETT City of Everett (88K) and probably some areas that would otherwise be noncoterminous with the next district MALTBY & PAINE FIELD (or MALTBY & LAKE STICKNEY) Remainder of Everett CCD (total pop: 146K) and Maltby CCD (37K) EDMONDS; LYNNWOOD (two seats) Edmonds CCD. 207K inhabitants SEATTLE 1-9 Yeah, well, nine seats EAST SEATTLE 1-5 Yeah, well, five more seats. Names probably won't include any reference to Seattle. Bellevue, Redmond, Renton and Kirkland come to mind as possible names. FEDERAL WAY & VASHON ISLAND Vashon Island CCD; City of Federal Way (from Auburn CCD), 83K inhabitants, probably some areas otherwise noncoterminous with the next district. 93K inhabitants +x AUBURN & ENUMCLAW SOUTH (perhaps) Remainder of Auburn CCD (73K -x), part of Enumclaw Plateau CCD (54K) TAHOMA & ENUMCLAW NORTH (perhaps) Tahoma-Maple Valley CCD (53K); remainder of Enumclaw Plateau CCD ISSAQUAH PLATEAU & SNOQUALMIE VALLEY CCD's of said names. 87K inhabitants TACOMA 1-4 Tacoma CCD. No details available, although two seats would include the city (190K or something) and some inner suburbs to the northeast (and likely be named Tacoma West and Tacoma East or Tacoma North and Tacoma South), while two seats would include the Southern suburbs (and not be named Tacoma). Population 399K PUYALLUP Most of Puyallup CCD (123K inhabitants) MOUNT RAINIER Buckley, Eatonville, Graham-Thrift, Mount Rainier CCDs, remainder of Puyallup CCD. 84K inhabitants without Puyallup GIG HARBOR & FORT LEWIS Gig Harbor Peninsula, Lower Peninsula, Fort Lewis - DuPont, and Roy CCDs. 96K inhabitants OLYMPIA Part of Olympia CCD (137K) including all of the city (just 43K) NISQUALLY Remainder of Thurston County. Named after river. CHEHALIS & WILLAPA BAY Lewis, Pacific and Wahkiakum counties. 98K inhabitants COWLITZ (or LONGVIEW. The Cowlitz River is mostly in Lewis County.) Cowlitz County. 93K inhabitants VANCOUVER WEST Part of Vancouver CCD (191K inhabitants) in Clark County VANCOUVER EAST - ORCHARDS Remainder of Vancouver CCD; Orchards CCD (53K inhabitants) 244K inhabitants together. Slightly above 120K inhabitants per seat. Alternatives include much uglier looking districts or splitting Orchards CCD. I'd prefer the latter. BATTLE GROUND & CAMAS Remainder of Clark County. 101K (plus any part of Orchards CCD added) RICHLAND & KENNEWICK Most of the Richland-Kennewick CCD (pop: 124K) of Benton County, including all of the two cities (combined population 94K). Total population should be in excess of 100K. PASCO & COLUMBIA GORGE Skamania, Klickitat, Franklin Counties. Remainder of Benton County. 220K inhabitants in the two seats. YAKIMA Most of Yakima CCD (129K) SUNNYSIDE & LOST HORSE Remainder of Yakima County. 94K plus whatever is added from Yakima CCD. WALLA WALLA & LOWER SNAKE Walla Walla, Columbia, Garfield, Asotin Counties. 82K MIDDLE COLUMBIA & MOSES LAKE Grant, Douglas Counties. 108K ELLENSBURG, WENATCHEE & LAKE CHELAN (or leave out either Wenatchee or Lake Chelan) Kittitas, Chelan Countis. 100K PALOUSE- LAKE ROOSEVELT was the best I could do Whitman, Adams, Lincoln Counties; Spokane Reservation, Loon Lake, Columbia and Springdale CCDs of Stevens County. 84K GRAND COULEE DAM Okanogan, Ferry, Pend Oreille Counties; Kettle Falls, Colville, Chenelah (hope I spelt that right) CCDs of Stevens County. 82K SPOKANE 1-3 Spokane CCD of Spokane County. No details available. 322K together (inc. 195K inside city limits) CHENEY & MOUNT SPOKANE Remaining CCDs of Spokane County. 95K inhabitants Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 08:45:26 AM I likes this idea Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 09:16:45 AM OREGON
3,421 Mio inhabitants 34 seats Multnomah 660K 7 seats Washington 445K 4 seats Clackamas 338K 3 seats Had the Census been held just a year later, Washington would have 5 seats, Clackamas might have 4 and Multnomah might have only 6...tough luck for the suburbs in this case. Marion 285K 3 seats Linn 103K 1 seat Yamhill 85K 1 seat Lane 322K 3 seats Douglas 100K 1 seat (actually, 1+1, for reasons that will be made clear) Jackson 181K 2 seats Deschutes 115K 1 seat That leaves 786K and 8 seats. Interestingly the remaining counties are split into three noncoterminous regions...NW: 288K, 3 seats. SW: 160K, 2 seats. East: 338K, 3 seats. A problem arose in the SW which led to me distributing part of Douglas County to one of these seats. ASTORIA Clatsop, Columbia and Tillamook Counties. 104K PORTLAND 1-5 (cardinal points) GRESHAM MULTNOMAH EAST Multnomah County. Details not available. Except for two mini CCD's (Skyline and Corbett) at the county's outer ends, all of it is in Portland CCD. 526K are within Portland city limits. The city of Gresham has 90K inhabitants and would likely get its own seat. BEAVERTON HILLSBORO TIGARD (probably) Beaverton-Hillsboro CCD of Washington County. 340K. Seats tentatively named after largest towns of 67K, 61K and 41K. CHEHALEM Remaining CCD's of Washington County. 105K CLACKAMAS 1 & 2 Northwest Clackamas CCD of Clackamas County. No really dominant town. 224K. The County Town is here and is called Oregon City. I might use that name. MOLALLA & MOUNT HOOD Remaining CCD's of Clackamas County. 114K YAMHILL Yamhill County. 85K SALEM NORTH SALEM SOUTH Salem CCD of Marion County. 204K, of which 119K within city limits. The city of Salem is split between Marion and Polk Counties. WOODBURN & SILVERTON Remaining CCD's of Marion County. 81 K SALEM WEST & SILETZ Polk County; All of Lincoln County except Waldport and Eddysville CCD's. 98K CORVALLIS & WALDPORT Benton County; Waldport and Eddysville CCD's of Lincoln County. 86K SANTIAM RIVER Linn County. 103K EUGENE WEST Part of city of Eugene (138K), plus any enclaves within it EUGENE EAST & SPRINGFIELD Remainder of Eugene - Springfield CCD (pop of 230K) SIUSLAW & UPPER WILLAMETTE Remainder of Lane County. 93K. Totally surrounds the two Eugene constituencies. ROSEBURG & REEDSPORT Douglas County except North Umpqua and South Umpqua CCD's (that's pretty exactly half the area of Douglas County, actually, but very thinly inhabited) 91K COOS BAY & CURRY Coos and Curry counties. 84 K GRANTS PASS & UMPQUA Josephine County (which has 76K and couldn't be combined with anything, hence the split of Douglas County); Douglas County's North Umpqua and South Umpqua CCD's. 85K MEDFORD Most of Medford CCD of Jackson County (112K) including all of the city (63K) of same name. ASHLAND & UPPER ROGUE Remainder of Jackson County (pop: 181K) BEND Deschutes County (115K) KLAMATH & MALHEUR Klamath, Lake, Harvey, Malheur Counties. 111K. PENDLETON Morrow, Umatilla, Union, Wallowa. 114K. JOHN DAY RIVER & THE DALLES. Best I could do. All the remainder - Baker, Grant, Crook, Jefferson, Hood River, Wasco, Sherman, Gilliam and Wheeler in a vast townless district (except for some holidaying exurbs in Hood River in the district's far NW corner) of 113K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 26, 2005, 10:59:28 AM CALIFORNIA
General outline only for today. 33,872 Mio. 339 seats. (Hey - if California ever declared her independence this could well be her parliament's size.) According to the rules... Humboldt 1+1 Mendocino 1 Sonoma 5 Marin 2+1 Napa 1+1 Solano 4 Yolo 2 Sacramento 12 Shasta 2 Butte 2 Nevada 1 Placer 2+1 El Dorado 1+1 San Francisco 8 San Mateo 7 Santa Clara 17 Santa Cruz 3 Contra Costa 9 Alameda 14 San Joaquin 6 Stanislaus 4 Merced 2 Madera 1+1 Fresno 8 Kings 1+1 Tulare 4 Kern 7 Monterey 4 San Luis Obispo 2+1 Santa Barbara 4 Ventura 8 Los Angeles 95 (yes) Orange 28 San Bernardino 17 Riverside 15 Imperial 1+1 San Diego 28 ...or 329 plus parts of 9, leaving one and parts of 9 to the 21 remaining counties (with a population of 684,000). Oh, and many of these parts are nowhere near minor counties. Anyways, this is the final list. Every group of counties is of the right size for its number of seats. Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte 2 Mendocino 1 Sonoma, Marin 7 Napa, Lake 2 Solano 4 Yolo 2 Sacramento 12 Siskiyou, Modoc, Lassen, Plumas 1 Shasta 2 Butte 2 Tehama, Glenn 1 Sutter, Colusa 1 Nevada, Sierra 1 Placer, Yuba 3 El Dorado, Amador 2 Calaveras, Tuolumne 1 San Francisco 8 San Mateo 7 Santa Clara 17 Santa Cruz 3 Contra Costa 9 Alameda 14 San Joaquin 6 Stanislaus 4 Merced 2 Madera, Mariposa, Mono, Alpine, Inyo (ugly that last one, but needed to cross 160,000 people) 2 Fresno 8 Kings, Tulare 5 Kern 7 Monterey, San Benito, San Luis Obispo 7 Santa Barbara 4 Ventura 8 Los Angeles 95 Orange 28 San Bernardino 17 Riverside, Imperial 17 San Diego 28 Except that that's one seat too many. I will therefore distribute only 94 seats to Los Angeles County, pushing the average population of an LA County seat from 100,200 to 101,300. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on April 26, 2005, 11:13:44 AM The population of 100,000 is very close to the size of a representative seat in the IL General Assembly. States are more akin to European countries in size. So, the size of these districts doesn't match well for the US as a whole.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on April 26, 2005, 01:13:08 PM Very interesting Lewis. :) But where's the maps?! >:(
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on April 26, 2005, 02:37:15 PM Very interesting Lewis. :) But where's the maps?! >:( Yes, and where is Idaho? ;) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 27, 2005, 02:38:41 AM Muon: See the first post. Just before the smilie. :)
Immy: Coming soon. WMS: Your job. ;D Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 27, 2005, 03:07:38 AM Updated Oregon and Washington constituency names.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 27, 2005, 07:08:44 AM This message exceeds the maximum allowed length, and shall be split.
CALIFORNIA Still very vague in urban areas. 33,872 Mio. 339 seats. EUREKA (or HUMBOLDT BAY) Eureka, North Coastal and most of Arcata CCDs. Arcata CCD's population is mostly right by Eureka, but the CCD stretches up some valley to the county line. Population 89K minus whatever is chopped off Arcata CRESCENT CITY, TRINITY & EEL RIVER Remainder of Humboldt County, Trinity County, Del Norte County. Population 78K plus what's gained in Arcata. MENDOCINO County of same name. 86K. SANTA ROSA EAST (or NORTH) SANTA ROSA WEST (or SOUTH) Santa Rosa CCD of Sonoma County. 190K together. PETALUMA EAST & SONOMA Sonoma CCD, part of Petaluma CCD PETALUMA WEST & SEBASTOPOL Sebastopol CCD, remainder of Petaluma CCD. 189K together. RUSSIAN RIVER & POINT REYES Remainder of Sonoma County; Northwest Marin and Southwest Marin CCDs, and a bit part of Northeast Marin CCD. 91K plus said bit part. SAN RAFAEL & NOVATO San Rafael CCD, remainder of Northeast Marin CCD. 124K minus said bit part. SAUSALITO & ROSS VALLEY Southeast Marin and Ross Valley CCDs. 112K. NAPA Napa CCD of Napa County. 102K CLEAR LAKE Remainder of Napa County. Lake County. 80K VACAVILLE Vacaville CCD of Solano County. 96K FAIRFIELD Just the city (and perhaps anything enclosed by it, didn't see anything though) 96K VALLEJO City of Vallejo, unincorporated area to the west of it. 117K plus that unincorporated area. This might be over 120K, but I think it's better than splitting the city. GRIZZLY BAY Remainder of Fairfield-Suisun City and Vallejo CCDs, all of Dixon and Rio Vista CCDs, ie: remainder of Solano County. 88K minus that incorporated area in Fairfield constituency. Yolo 2. Darn it. I knew I'd forget something. Will get back to you on this one. FOLSOM Folsom CCD of Sacramento County (pop:52K). Part of Sacramento CCD (960K) SACRAMENTO 1-9 Remainder of Sacramento CCD. Delta CCD (5K). MATHER Mather CCD. 97K. ELK GROVE - GALT Elk Grove, Galt and Sloughhouse CCDs. 110K. YREKA - SUSANVILLE Siskiyou, Modoc, Lassen, Plumas counties.99K. REDDING City of Redding. 81K. Plus any enclaves. SHASTA Remainder of Shasta County. 82K. Minus any enclaves. CHICO Chico, Durham, Biggs and Gridley CCDs of Butte County. 109K. OROVILLE & PARADISE Oroville, Paradise, Palermo and Feather Falls CCDs of Butte County. 94K. This represents a pretty even East-West split of Butte County. Along a river, too. Wisht all counties were like that. TEHAMA - GLENN. I guess Glenn is just about stomachable in the combination of names. Counties of said names. 82K. SUTTER - COLUSA Counties of said names. 98K. SIERRA NEVADA Counties of said names. Couldn't resist the constituency name. 96K. YUBA - WEST VALLEY (obviously that name can't be allowed to stand. Open to suggestions) Yuba County; West Valley CCD of Placer County. 82K ROSEVILLE Roseville CCD of Placer County. 81K AUBURN & NORTH LAKE TAHOE Lake Tahoe, Foresthill - Back Country, Colfax - Summit, and Auburn CCDs. 78K. And, in case you were wondering: Loomis Basin - Folsom Lake CCD (67K) will have to be split up between the three. PLACERVILLE & SOUTH LAKE TAHOE Placerville, North El Dorado, South Lake Tahoe CCDs. And probably (eastern) part of South El Dorado CCD, the western part of which is Sacramento outer suburbs. 78K plus whatever's added. SOUTH EL DORADO - AMADOR South El Dorado CCD (or most of it). Amador County. 113K minus x. CALAVERAS - TUOLUMNE Counties of said name. 96K. SAN FRANCISCO 1-8 Yeah, well, eight seats. SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO 1-3 The Daly City, Oceanside etc area of San Mateo County. SAN MATEO 1-4 San Mateo CCD stretches from Hillsborough on south. South Coastside CCD (29K) around Half Moon Bay will for population balance reasons be included in one of these seats. SANTA CLARA 1-17 Santa Clara County includes a big, heavily populated basin with coastal strip attached in the NW. And Mountains around on three sides. The Census Bureau's CCDs are nothing less than helpful here. San Jose CCD is entitled to 16 seats. All the others together are not entitled to a single seat. Obviously I could have done better than not doing anything at all. Obviously others who actually know the area could do much better than me. SANTA CRUZ WATSONVILLE MONTEREY BAY NORTH Santa Cruz County. 255K, so these should be about 85K each. Santa Cruz CCD is 151K, although the city is just 40-odd K. Watsonville CCD is 72K, so some outer Santa Cruz territory should be added. Seaside and San Lorenzo Valley CCDs in the northern part of the county are just 33K and will be combined with outer parts of Santa Cruz CCD in the Monterey Bay North seat. WEST CONTRA COSTA 1 & 2. The Richmond area. 236K CENTRAL CONTRA COSTA 1-5 The Livermore Valley area (as far as it's not in Alameda County). 459K. Mountainous Briones (6K, to the West) and Tassajara (27K, to the Southeast) CCDs should be included in Central seats. ANTIOCH - PITTSBURG - CONTRA COSTA EAST 1 & 2 Antioch - Pittsburg and East Contra Costa CCDs. 221K. Basically one seat is in Antioch-Pittsburg and the other is mostly in East Contra Costa but has a considerable portion of eastern Antioch-Pittsburg as welll. BERKELEY City and CCD of Berkely. 119K OAKLAND 1-4; ALAMEDA Oakland CCD has 417K (the city has 399K). Alameda City & CCD has 72K and is totally surrounded by Oakland and water. 5 seats with 489 K together. FREMONT 1-3 Fremont CCD. 311K together HAYWARD 1-3 LIVERMORE PLEASANTON Hayward CCD has 351K. Livermore-Pleasanton CCD has 172K. I had to combine them to stay at 14 seats, thence one seat will cross the boundary. STOCKTON 1-3 Stockton CCD of San Joaquin County. 307K. The city has 242K. LODI Lodi, Thornton, and Lockeford CCDs. 87K TRACY Tracy CCD. 70K. Plus part of Manteca CCD, 71K, staying as clear of the city as possible. MANTECA & ESCALON Remainder of Manteca CCD. Ripon, Linden-Farmington, and Escalon CCDs. Population of these last three:29K. Population of the two constituencies: 170K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 27, 2005, 07:10:08 AM MODESTO NORTH
MODESTO SOUTH STANISLAUS EAST Modesto CCD (282K). And Oakdale, Waterford, and Hughson CCDs, 47K, which will be in the Stanislaus East seat, together with part of Modesto CCD (but as little as possible of the city proper. The city has 186K inhabitants, but there's quite a few other areas that will probably have to go into Modesto N or Modesto S.) TURLOCK Remainder of Stanislaus County. 118K. MERCED & LOS BANOS (or MERCED SOUTH) Merced, Dos Palos, and Los Banos CCDs. 119 K. ATWATER (or MERCED NORTH) Remainder of Merced County. 92K. YOSEMITE & DEATH VALLEY Mariposa, Alpine, Mono and Inyo Counties. Oakburst-North Fork CCD of Madera County. Just 75K. Given the constituency's vast size and nonexistent road linkage (you'll have to drive through Tuolumne), noone can complain. MADERA Remainder of Madera County. 97K. FRESNO 1-6 Fresno CCD. 570K. SELMA & KERMAN Firebaugh, Mendota, San Joaquin - Tranquility, Coalinga, Huron, Kerman, Caruthers - Raisin City, Riverdale, Laton, Selma CCDs. 115K. Western part of county. REEDLEY & SANGER Remainder of Fresno County. 114K. Eastern part of county. HANFORD & AVENAL Kings County except for Corcoran CCD. 112K. VISALIA Tulare County CCD of said name. 105K. TULARE & CORCORAN Corcoran CCD of Kings County. Tulare, Tipton, Pridley and Earlimart CCDs of Tulare County. 91K. PORTERVILLE Porterville, Terra Bella, Lindsay and Strathmore CCDs. 90K. EXETER - THREE RIVERS Remainder of Tulare County. 93K. BAKERSFIELD 1-4. Bakersfield, Arvin - Lamont, and Greenfield - Panama CCDs of Kern County. 387K ROSEDALE - KERN RIVER Rosedale, Wasco, Buttonwillow, and Westside CCDs. 91K DELANO - SHAFTER McFarland - Delano, Lake Isabella, and Shafter CCDs. 86K. TEHACHAPI - EAST KERN CCDs of said name (ie, remainder of county). 98K. MONTEREY Seaside-Monterey CCD. 113K. Seaside is such a generic name. Everybody knows where Monterey is. SALINAS NORTH & CASTROVILLE SALINAS SOUTH 198K. Salinas CCD has 163K. IIRC there were two small CCDs to the north of Salinas that I added, but I didn't put down the name of the other one. SAN BENITO & SOLEDAD San Benito County. Gonzales, Toro, Soledad & Greenfield CCDs of Monterey County. "Of Mice and Men" set here. 101K. PASO ROBLES - CARMEL VALLEY Remainder of Monterey County. Paso Robles CCD of San Luis Obispo County. 81K. SAN LUIS OBISPO (& ATASCADERO, if that isn't too big a mouthful) San Luis Obispo CCD minus small coastal strip, Atascadero CCD. 101K minus x. ARROYO GRANDE & MORRO BAY. Arroyo Grande and North Coast CCDs. 106K plus x. SANTA MARIA VALLEY Santa Barbara County CCD of that name. 111K. LOMPOC All of Santa Barbara County except Santa Maria Valley, Santa Barbara and Carpinteria Valley CCDs. 87K. SANTA BARBARA WEST & GOLETA SANTA BARBARA EAST & CARPINTERIA 201K together. At first I thought of a district based on Santa Barbara city (which will now be split; 92K) and a Goleta-Carpinteria district, but that would be purely nominally coterminous. VENTURA Ventura CCD. 106K. OXNARD EAST OXNARD WEST 208K together. SIMI VALLEY & THOUSAND OAKS 1-3. Simi Valley CCD, 116K. Thousand Oaks CCD, 149K. And Triunfo Pass - Coastal CCD, 2K. CAMARILLO Camarillo, Moorpark, and Las Posas CCDs. 94K SANTA PAULA - LOS PADRES Remainder (north) of Ventura County. 81K. LA County...the following CCD's, in alphabetical order. BURBANK. 1 seat. CALABASAS. 1 seat. COMPTON. 3 seats. Likely to be named Compton, Carson, and Lynwood. DOWNEY - NORWALK. 4 seats. EAST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY. 9 seats. This is the Pomona, West Covina etc area. GLENDALE. 2 seats. INGLEWOOD. 4 seats. Also includes Hawthorne, Gardena. LONG BEACH - LAKEWOOD. 6 seats. LOS ANGELES. Theoretically entitled to 39 seats, but see below. The city and all the enclaves too small to be chopped off, basically - such as those of the Hollywood area, except Santa Monica. Some tiny specks of the city are elsewhere. This area still spans from BelAir to San Pedro, though. NEWHALL. 2 seats. Main town is Santa Clarita. NORTH ANTELOPE VALLEY. Entitled to 1+1 seat. Solved by pairing with SOUTH ANTELOPE VALLEY, also entitled to 1+1 seat, making three seats. Probably urban seats based on Lancaster (in North) and Palmdale (in South) and a large rural remnant, probably named Antelope Valley. PALOS VERDES. 1 seat. PASADENA. Entitled to 2+1 seat.Couldn't be paired with any of its other neighbors, thence paired with Los Angeles to create an area entitled to 41 seats. SOUTH BAY CITIES. Entitled to 1+1 seat. White, mixed-voting area around Redondo Beach. Solved by pairing with TORRANCE, also entitled to 1+1 seat, making three seats. That won't please them. ;D SANTA MONICA. 1 seat. SOUTHEAST. Quintessential East LA, this. 5 seats. SOUTHWEST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY. 3 seats. Alhambra, Monterey Park etc. UPPER SAN GABRIEL VALLEY. 3 seats. El Monte etc. WHITTIER. 3 seats. East LA beyond East LA. Becoming more similar to East LA hourly. Richard Nixon once represented the area. And because that's still 95 seats (see above), LA/Pasadena will only get 40 seats. The average size will still be just 102,500. ANAHEIM - SANTA ANA - GARDENGROVE 1-16. See San Jose. NORTH COAST 1-4 Area around Huntington Beach etc. NEWPORT BEACH COSTA MESA These two seats make up the Central Coast CCD. SOUTHERN PART OF COUNTY 1-6. El Toro, Trabuco and South Coast CCDs. Entitled to 7 CCDs individually, but 6 when taken together. There would be an El Toro (Irvine) seat, a Trabuco (Mission Viejo) seat, two South Coast seats (names to be determined), and two holdover seats combining parts of at least two of the CCDs each. ONTARIO 1-5 SAN BERNARDINO 1-7. San Bernardino County CCD's of these names. As you can see, I got bored. YUCAIPA - ARROWHEAD Yucaipa, Big Bear, Arrowhead and Mount Baldy - Wrightwood CCDs. 98K HESPERIA Hesperia city, part of Apple Valley city. VICTORVILLE Victorville city, Adelanto city, remainder of Apple Valley city. 199K together. BARSTOW Remainder of Barstow-Victorville CCD. Quite vast. 86K. TWENTYNINE PALMS - MOHAVE DESERT Very vast remainder of San Bernardino County. 89K. JURUPA. Riverside County CCD of that name (as are the next 15 seats). 85K CORONA NORTH CORONA SOUTH - NORCO 169K together. ELSINORE VALLEY - LAKE MATHEWS 87K. Two CCDs. 3 MURRIETA and PARRIS VALLEY seats. 291K together. 4 RIVERSIDE seats, one of them also including the SAN GORGONIO PASS area. 442K together. HEMET - SAN JACINTO 115K. One CCD. CATHEDRAL CITY Part of Cathedral City - Palm Desert CCD (121K) PALM SPRINGS Remainder, plus Palm Springs and Idyllwild CCDs. 176K together. COACHELLA VALLEY 119K. SALTON SEA Desert Hot Springs, Chuckwalla and Palo Verde CCDs of Riverside County. Four CCDs of Imperial County that I didn't write down the names for (though one was simply called East Imperial and another West Imperial). 109K together. IMPERIAL VALLEY Brawley, Imperial, El Centro, Holtville, and Calexico CCDs of Imperial County. 118K OCEANSIDE - ESCONDIDO. 6 seats. Oceanside - Escondido CCD has 555K. I had to add Pendleton and Fallbrook CCDs though, pushing the total to 635K. Oceanside, Escondido, Vista, San Marcos, and Pendleton might make 5 of the 6 constituency names. Or 6...Oceanside or Escondido getting an East and a West constituency. SAN DIEGO. 21 seats for this CCD. Includes most suburbs as well. RAMONA (stand-in name, after largest town. Should be replaced by a geographical term, though.) All the remaining, eastern San Diego County, CCDs. 100K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 27, 2005, 09:07:09 AM Okay, IDAHO.
1,294 Mio inhabitants. 13 seats. Ada County, 301K inhabitants, 3 seats. Canyon County, 131K inhabitants, 1 seat and part of 1. Has been paired with Payette, Owyhee and Elmore Counties. Kootenai County, 109K inhabitants, 1 seat. Bonneville County, 83K inhabitants, 1 seat. Remainder of the state to make six seats. KOOTENAI (or, COEUR D'ALENE) Kootenai County. 109K. MOSCOW & BOUNDARY (or something like that) Boundary, Bonner, Shoshone, Benewah and Latah Counties. 105K. NEZ PERCE & HELLS CANYON Nez Perce, Lewis, Clearwater, Idaho, Valley, Adams, Washington, Gem, Boise. 109K. NAMPA - CALDWELL Nampa & Kramer CCDs of Canyon County. 105K. OWYHEE & (add something here) Remainder of Canyon County; Payette, Owyhee, Elmore. 87K BOISE WEST BOISE EAST City of Boise, perhaps some enclaves. 186K+x together. ADA Remainder of Ada County, 115K -x. TWIN FALLS Twin Falls, Cassia, Jerome. 103K IDAHO CENTRAL Power, Minidoka, Lincoln, Camas, Blaine, Gooding, Custer, Lemhi, Butte, Clarke. 90K IDAHO FALLS Bonneville County. 83K (still looking for name) Bingham, Jefferson, Madison, Fremont, Teton. 106K. POCATELLO Bannock, Caribou, Franklin, Bear Lake, Oneida. 104K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on April 27, 2005, 01:29:57 PM Muon: See the first post. Just before the smilie. :) Immy: Coming soon. WMS: Your job. ;D Yeah, I'll get to those...in 2006... :P Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on April 27, 2005, 01:48:30 PM Muon: See the first post. Just before the smilie. :) Immy: Coming soon. WMS: Your job. ;D My point was that your exercise might be more useful if assigned to the state legislatures, rather than to the federal government. :) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 28, 2005, 07:33:54 AM Muon: See the first post. Just before the smilie. :) Immy: Coming soon. WMS: Your job. ;D My point was that your exercise might be more useful if assigned to the state legislatures, rather than to the federal government. :) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 28, 2005, 08:10:37 AM Okay, IDAHO. IDAHO FALLS Bonneville County. 83K (still looking for name) Bingham, Jefferson, Madison, Fremont, Teton. 106K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 28, 2005, 08:24:16 AM Yolo County and NE Idaho (mopping up as you might say)
Yolo County: DAVIS Davis, Winters, Esparto and Knights Landing CCDs. 85K. WOODLAND & WEST SACRAMENTO Woodland, East Yolo and Clarksburg CCDs. 85K. Districts are somewhat Yin and Yang shaped, to prevent splitting any of the county's three urban areas. NE Idaho: Idaho Falls CCD has 75K of Bonneville County's 82K inhabitants. I'll have to split the area. (52K are within the city itself, which is situated pretty much at the center of the CCD and will probably have to be split as well.) IDAHO FALLS SOUTH & BLACKFOOT Bingham County (42K), approximately 53K of Idaho Falls CCD of Bonneville County. IDAHO FALLS NORTH & REXBURG Remainder of Bonneville County (app. 30K) and Jefferson, Madison, Fremont, Teton Counties (64K). Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 05:55:46 AM MONTANA
902K inhabitants. 9 seats. Cascade - 80K Missoula - 96K entitled to one seat each. Yellowstone - 129K entitled to one seat plus overspill A problem arises in the NW of the state because Flathead County, with 74K inhabitants, and Missoula County together separate 4 more counties (with over 46K inhabitants) from the rest of the state. This could only be solved by putting some more counties in with Missoula, or by splitting Flathead County. I went with the first option. Names I chose are more than just a bit dull, btw. MISSOULA Missoula, Mineral, and Sanders Counties. 110K KALISPELL Flathead, Lake, and Lincoln Counties. 120K BUTTE Silver Bow, Deer Lodge, Granite, Ravalli, Beaverhead, and Madison Counties. 99K HELENA Lewis and Clark, Powell, Jefferson, Broadwater, Meagher, Teton, Pondera, and Glacier Counties. 104K BOZEMAN Gallatin, Park, Sweet Grass, Stillwater, and Carbon Counties. 106K GREAT FALLS Cascade County. 80K BILLINGS Billings CCD of Yellowstone County. 97K YELLOWSTONE RIVER Remainder of Yellowstone County; Fallon, Carter, Powder River, Custer, Rosebud, Treasure, Big Horn, Musselshell, Golden Valley, Wheatland, Fergus, Petroleum, and Judith Basin Counties. 94K UPPER MISSOURI Toole, Liberty, Hill, Chouteau, Blaine, Philips, Valley, Daniels, Sheridan, Roosevelt, Richland, Dawson, McCone, Wibaux, Prairie, and Garfield Counties. 91K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 05:58:15 AM WYOMING
494K inhabitants. 5 seats. Laramie County, 82K inhabitants, entitled to a seat of its own. No problems of any kind arose. YELLOWSTONE PARK Teton, Park, Lincoln, Sublette, Fremont, and Hot Springs Counties. 106K LARAMIE & ROCK SPRINGS Uinta, Sweetwater, Carbon, Albany Counties. 106K CHEYENNE Laramie County. 82K CASPER Natrona, Converse, Goshen, Platte, and Niobrara Counties. 103K GILLETTE & SHERIDAN Big Horn, Campbell, Crook, Johnson, Sheridan, Washakie, and Weston Counties. 100K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 06:54:01 AM Nevada - 1,998 mio inhabitants. 20 seats.
Clark County has 1,376 mio inhabitants and gets 14 seats. Washoe County has 339K inhabitants and gets three seats. The remainder of the state has 283K inhabitants and gets three seats. SPARKS (& PYRAMID LAKE, or & WASHOE NORTH) High Desert, Pyramid Lake, Warm Springs - Truckee Canyon, Sun Valley, Sparks CCDs of Washoe County. 102 K. Perhaps plus 3K of Reno North CCD that are outside Reno city limits, including 2K that are inside Sparks city limits. RENO EAST Bulk of Reno North and Reno South East CCDs. 126K -x. RENO WEST Not nearly as urban as Reno East. Incline Village, Washoe Valley, Reno South West, Verdi and North Valleys CCDs. Plus a bit of either Reno North or Reno South East probably. 112K plus x. CARSON CITY Carson City, Douglas County. 93K. PAHRUMP & NEVADA WEST Lyon, Storey, Mineral, Churchill, Esmeralda and Nye Counties. 100K. This district includes 30% of the surface area of Nevada. Pahrump is a Las Vegas exurb of 24K inhabitants that is just over the county line in Nye. ELKO & NEVADA NORTH EAST Elko, Eureka, Humboldt, Lander, Lincoln, Pershing and White Pine Counties. 89K. This district includes 56% of the surface area of Nevada. Half the population is in Elko County. CLARK COUNTY CCD's are no use as they include Clark (50K) and Las Vegas (1,326mio). However, city boundaries are in parts quite sane: Henderson, 176K - 2 seats Las Vegas, 478K, and Winchester, 27K - 5 seats together North Las Vegas, 115K - 1 seat Paradise, 186K - 2 seats Spring Valley, 117K - 1 seat Sunrise Manor, 156K, Nellis AFB, 9K, and Whitney, 18K - 2 seats together That leaves 94K for an outer Clark County seat with a geographical name (MOAPA VALLEY & HOOVER DAM perhaps). However, there are some enclaves to iron out to make districts contiguous. If this pushes population below 80K, the remaining population will have to be gained by splitting either North Las Vegas or Spring Valley (as both are oversized and on the edge of the urbanized area.) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 07:23:16 AM Utah
2,233 mio inhabitants 22 seats Wasatch Front counties have 18 seats together (Cache 1, Weber 2, Davis 2, Salt Lake 9, Utah 4.) Washington County in the far SW of the state has another seat. That leaves three seats for rural Utah. LOGAN Cache County. 91K OGDEN Part of Ogden CCD (180K) of Weber County (197K), including all the city of Ogden (77K). WEBER Remainder of Weber County. Though it's not a geographical name actually, it's unique as a county name. LAYTON Most of North Davis CCD (150K) of Davis County (239K) BOUNTIFUL Remainder of North Davis CCD; South Davis CCD (89K). SALT LAKE 1-9 CCD's are not helpful as four minor CCD's, two to the West, two to the East, have just 59K together. Major places that would likely be included in constituency names are Salt Lake City (182K, two or perhaps more constituencies would bear this name), West Valley City (109K), Sandy (86K), Taylorsville (57K), West Jordan (54K). PROVO OREM Provo-Orem CCD of Utah County. 190K (Provo city has 105K, Orem city 84K. Obviously part of Provo would have to be in the Orem seat.) LEHI & AMERICAN FORK American Fork - Pleasant Grove and Lehi CCDs. 98K. SPRINGVILLE & SPANISH FORK Goshe, Spanish Fork - Payson, and Springville - Mapleton CCDs, ie remainder of Utah County. 81K. GREAT SALT LAKE Box Elder, Tooele, Juab and Sanpete Counties. 115K. This district includes 22% of Utah's surface area. Sanpete included (creating an ugly boundary line) to avoid splitting a county. WASATCH MOUNTAINS Rich, Morgan, Summit, Wasatch, Duchesne, Daggett, Uintah and Carbon Counties. 114K. This district includes 17% of Utah's surface area. UTAH SOUTH Remainder of state except for Washington County. 120K. This district includes 52% of Utah's surface area. SAINT GEORGE Washington County. 90K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 09:33:13 AM Arizona.
5,131 mio inhabitants. 51 seats. And some very troubled geography. Theoretical entitlements: Cochise - 118K. 1 seat Coconino - 116K. 1 seat Maricopa - 3072K. 31 seats Mohave - 155K. 1+1 seat. Navajo - 97K. 1 seat Pima - 844K. 8 seats Pinal - 180K. 2 seats Yavapai - 168K. 2 seats Yuma - 160K. 2 seats. That leaves 222K people with one seat and part of one...plus, a look at where they're located. La Paz County (20K) is the only minor county bordering Mohave and will have to be paired with that, making the are worth two seats. Santa Cruz County (38K) borders only Pima and Cochise County. I've paired it with Pima County, which leaves us with no seats available for 163K people (in a contiguous area). I paired Gila County (51K) with Maricopa County, which does not create an extra seat, but still leaves me with 112K people (in Apache, Greenlee and Graham Counties) without a seat for them. I've decided to pair Mohave and La Paz Counties with Yuma County, making 335K people and three seats. That way I had a seat available for eastern Arizona again. Finally, under this plan the Navajo country would be in three seats (Coconino, Navajo, and Apache Greenlee Graham), making up a majority portion of none of these seats (barely, in the last case). I've decided to create a Navajo & Hopi Reservations seat instead. The remainder of Coconino is still large enough for its own seat. The remainder of Navajo County is paired with the remainder of Apache Greenlee Graham to make up one seat - except that that seat is slightly over 120K, so I chopped off part of Navajo County and added it to the Coconino seat. BULLHEAD CITY & LAKE HAVASU CITY The misleadingly-named Kingman South CCD of Mohave County, minus its unpopulated east. Slightly less than 98K inhabitants. YUMA Virtually all of Yuma County's Yuma CCD (123K). LOWER COLORADO Remainder of Yuman and Mohave counties, La Paz County. District includes state's Northwestern and Southwestern corner. 114K plus areas gained from other two seats' CCDs. PRESCOTT Most of the population of Prescott CDP (96K), incl. all of the cities of Prescott (34K) and Prescott Valley (23K). YAVAPAI Remainder of Yavapai County (72K plus some rural Prescott CDP people). FLAGSTAFF Coconino County except areas on Navajo and Hopi Reservations; Little Colorado CCD of Navajo County. 101K. NAVAJO & HOPI RESERVATIONS What the name says (inside Arizona only, of course). 111K (27K from Coconino, 31K from Navajo, 53K from Apache). SNOWFLAKE & SAN CARLOS Remainder of Navajo and Apache counties; Greenlee and Graham counties. 106K. COCHISE Cochise County. 118K. PAPAGO & ARIVACA All of Pima County outside of Tucson CCD. 87K. TUCSON 1-5 CASAS ADOBES CATALINA FOOTHILLS Seats entirely within Tucson CCD (756K). Tucson city has 487K. Casas Adobes and Catalina Foothills are largest suburbs, at about 50K each. NOGALES (& add some Tucson outer suburban name here, if you prefer) Remainder of Tucson CCD; Santa Cruz County (38K). FLORENCE & APACHE JUNCTION Florence, San Manuel, and North Pinal CCDs of Pinal County. 98K CASA GRANDE Remainder of Pinal County. 82K WICKENBURG & GILA BEND Wickenburg, Buckeye, and Gila Bend CCDs of Maricopa County. 85K PHOENIX CCD 1-26 Populations of cities would allow for 13 Phoenix seats, 4 Mesa seats, 1 Gilbert seat, 2 Glendale seats, 2 Scottsdale seats, 1+1 Tempe seat, 1 Peoria seat (almost, actually), and 1+1 seat in smaller towns and unincorporated areas. Whether this would actually work out depends somewhat on where the cities are located. CHANDLER WEST CHANDLER EAST Chandler (216K) and Saint John's (3K) CCDs. City of Chandler has 152K. DEER VALLEY Only part of Deer Valley CCD (149K). One problem is that much of the area is actually incorporated into Phoenix, Peoria, and Glendale. SALT RIVER Remainder of Deer Valley CCD; Tonto and Salt River CCDs; Gila County. 211K together for these two seats. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 10:21:01 AM New Mexico.
1,819 Mio inhabitants. 18 seats. Theoretical entitlements: Bernalillo 557K - 6 seats. I ended up pairing this with Valencia (66K) however. Dona Ana - 175K - 2 seats. Sandoval - 90K. 1 seat. San Juan - 114K. 1 seat. Santa Fe - 129K. 1 seat & part of one. Left me with 756K (or 690K after Valencia) for 6 seats and a (large) part of one. I'm not comfy with a few of the pairings below, and if someone (yes, looking at you) can produce a better outline you're totally welcome to post it. SHIPROCK & FARMINGTON San Juan County. 114K. GALLUP & ZUNI McKinley & Cibola counties. 101K. SANDOVAL Sandoval County. 90K SANTA FE Santa Fe and Santa Fe South CCDs of Santa Fe County. 112K. TAOS & LOS ALAMOS Santa Fe North CCD; Los Alamos, Rio Arriba, and Taos counties. 106K LAS VEGAS & TUCUMCARI Colfax, Mora, San Miguel, Harding, Union, Quay, Guadalupe, Torrance, and DeBaca counties. 88K. CLOVIS & HOBBS Curry, Roosevelt, Lea counties. 119K ROSWELL & CARLSBAD Chaves, Eddy. 113K. ALAMOGORDO & SOCORRO Otero, Lincoln, and Socorro counties. 99K. LAS CRUCES Las Cruces CCD of Dona Ana County. 87K. DONA ANA Remainder of Dona Ana County. 88K. SILVER CITY Sierra, Catron, Grant, Luna, Hidalgo counties. 84K. VALENCIA & ISLETA Valencia County; Isleta Pueblo, Bernalillo East, Bernalillo West CCDs of Bernalillo County. 88K. ALBUQUERQUE 1-5 (cardinal points) Albuquerque CCD. 535K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 29, 2005, 12:10:44 PM COLORADO
4,301 mio inhabitants. 43 seats. Theoretical entitlements: Mesa 116, 1 seat Weld 180, 2 seats Larimer 251, 3 seats Boulder 291, 3 seats (notice I'm using 2000 figures, before Broomfield County was created) Denver 555, 6 seats Adams 363, 4 seats Arapahoe 488, 5 seats Jefferson 527, 5 seats Douglas 176, 2 seats El Paso 517, 5 seats Pueblo 141, 1+1 seats Problem is, that leaves me with 694K people and 5 seats and part of one. I had to fuse either Denver and Adams or Larimer and Weld to get an additional seat out to rural Colorado. Went with the former. GLENWOOD SPRINGS & COLORADO NORTH WEST Moffat, Routt, Jackson, Rio Blanco, Garfield, Grand. 97K GRAND JUNCTION Mesa. 116K EAGLE - CENTRAL CITY Gilpin, Clear Creek, Summit, Eagle, Park, Lake. 103K ASPEN - MONTROSE Pitkin, Gunnison, Chaffee, Delta, Montrose. 106K DURANGO & COLORADO SOUTH WEST Ouray, San Miguel, Dolores, Montezuma, San Juan, La Plata, Hinsdale, Archuleta, Mineral. 94K CANON CITY Teller, Fremont, Custer, Saguache, Rio Grande. 104K PUEBLO Pueblo CCD of Pueblo County. 107K TRINIDAD & COLORADO SOUTH EAST Remainder of Pueblo County; Conejos, Costilla, Huerfano, Las Animas, Otero, Baca, Bent, Prowers. 111K COLORADO SPRINGS 1-3 (cardinal points) COLORADO SPRINGS (SOUTH) WEST & PIKES PEAK Colorado Springs CCD (352K), plus included in the last one Pikes Peak, Cheyenne Mountain, and Fountain CCDs (69K together). 421K together CIMARRON HILLS & AIRFORCE ACADEMY Black Forest - Peyton, Elsmere, South East El Paso, Monument CCDs. 96K COLORADO EAST Logan, Segwick, Phillips, Yuma, Washington, Kit Carson, Cheyenne, Lincoln, Elbert, Kiowa, Crowley, Morgan. 113K. It's amazing how empty Eastern Colorado is. GREELEY Greeley CCD of Weld County. 99K WELD (or geographical term) Remainder of Weld County. 81K LOVELAND - BERTHOUD Loveland and Berthoud CCDs of Larimer County. 84K FORT COLLINS EAST FORT COLLINS WEST Remainder of Larimer County. 168K together. 27K from CCDs other than Fort Collins included in West seat. LONGMONT Longmont and Upper Saint Vrain CCDs of Boulder County. 86K BOULDER (WEST) Bald Mountain CCD, most of Boulder CCD of Boulder County. 125K -x. LAFAYETTE & LOUISVILLE (or LAFAYETTE & BOULDER EAST) Lafayette - Louisville CCD (79K), plus areas from Boulder CCD. DENVER 1-5 Yeah, well, 5 seats. Cardinal or neighborhood names. WEST ADAMS 1 & 2 Two seats inside the West Adams CCD (260K) of Adams County. Thornton would definitely go into one name. Westminster might go into the other. (Denver area city boundaries have nothing in common with county boundaries. Lots of cities are half in one county, half in another. I don't know why.) DENVER / WEST ADAMS Obviously the name's not going to stand, but this is the seat cutting across the city line. BRIGHTON & COMMERCE CITY Brighton, Commerce City, North Aurora, and East Adams CCDs. 104K LITTLETON SOUTHGLENN Southwest Arapahoe CCD. 183K AURORA 1-3 (cardinal points) South Aurora CCD (298K, of which 236K inside the city). And, included in one district, East Arapahoe (8K). LAKEWOOD NORTH (or WEST) LAKEWOOD SOUTH (or EAST) ARVADA SOME OTHER NAME inside the North East Jefferson CCD (450K) GOLDEN Remainder of Jefferson County (77K from Golden, Central Jefferson, and South Jefferson CCDs, plus a bit from NE Jefferson) SEDALIA Sedalia CCD of Douglas County. 97K PARKER & CASTLE ROCK CCDs of said names. 79K. Douglas County is one of the fastest growing in the nation, so I won't bother with the slight discrepancy. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2005, 03:56:24 AM Changed some seat names in the Mountains.
I'll have to transfer Sierra County out of the Alamogordo seat, it's divided from the remainder of the seat by a missile range. Probably exchange it for Socorro. Edit: Done. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2005, 04:36:27 AM NORTH DAKOTA
642K inhabitants, 6 seats FARGO Fargo and West Fargo cities of Cass County. 106K JAMESTOWN & WAHPETON Remainder of Cass County; Richland, Sargent, Ransom, Dickey, La Moure, Barnes, Traill, Steele, Griggs, Foster, Eddy, Nelson, Stutsman counties. 114K GRAND FORKS (& DEVILS LAKE) Grand Forks, Wash, Pembina, Cavalier, Ramsey, Towner counties. 107K BISMARCK Burleigh, Emmons, McLean, Sheridan, Wells, Kidder, Logan, McIntosh, Benson, Pierce counties. 109K MINOT Ward, Renville, Mountrail, Burke, Divide, Williams, Bottineau, McHenry, Rolette counties. 120K DICKINSON & MANDAN All the counties to the SW of the Missouri River. 89K. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2005, 05:21:58 AM SOUTH DAKOTA
755K 8 seats I've successfully played my hand at racial gerrymandering! :) RAPID CITY Rapid City, Box Elder cities, Keytone town, Central Pennington, Rapid City East, Mount Rushmore CCDs (not everywhere in South Dakota is split completely into townships...many counties in the western part of the state are not) 83K SPEARFISH & BLACK HILLS Remainder of Pennington County (just 6K...I could have left it complete...look at a map and at the county's comprising this and the next district to understand why I didn't); Custer, Fall River, Meade, Lawrence, Butte, Harding, Perkins Counties. 79K, but decided to let it go DAKOTA Shannon, Bennett, Jackson, Todd, Haakon, Ziebach, Dewey, Corson, Mellette, Jones, Lyman, Tripp, Gregory, Buffalo, Charles Mix, Stanley, Brule. 80K. All the major Dakota reserves in the state are here. The district has 68% of the state's Native American population and is 53% Native American. And it doesn't look like a gerrymander. PIERRE & ABERDEEN Hughes, Sully, Hyde, Hand, Potter, Faulk, Walworth, Campbell, Edmunds, McPherson, Brown, Spink. 87K WATERTOWN & BROOKINGS Marshall, Day, Roberts, Grant, Deuel, Codington, Clark, Hamlin, Brookings, Kingsbury. 103K MITCHELL & HURON Beadle, Jerauld, Aurora, Sanborn, Miner, Davison, Hanson, McCook, Lake, Moody, Douglas counties, and all of Minnehaha County outside Sioux Falls city limits. 108K SIOUX FALLS City of Sioux Falls. 117K YANKTON Hutchinson, Turner, Lincoln, Bonhomme, Yankton, Clay, Union counties. 97K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Platypus on April 30, 2005, 05:55:55 AM whilst I appreciate you doing this, the prblem with naming seats after twons is that it doesn't cover the whole seat. For example, when it was created Kalgoorlie was just the town, which was bigger as a % back in 1901 then it is now. It now spreads throughout practically th whole WA outback. It's probably the only case of this problem in Australia. But you look at seats in Canada like that Kenowa-something one-what about all the other areas? Calling the seat "Rural Ontario Central West" would be more accurate, but rather boring. Naming it after a community leader in the area, or a river, etc., is much better imho.
I live in a relativekly boringly-named seat, Melbourne Ports, which sorta kinda suffers the smae probelms as Kalgoorlie. When it was created, it basically only covered Port Melbourne, the dockyards, South Melbourne and Albert Park-the area the port's workers lived in, basically, and where the Port asolutely dominated life. Now it spreads right along the bay, although it is still a reasonable name because it is basically the whole inner city shorline. Anyway, names that are based on locations generally=bad. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2005, 10:36:24 AM Names based on localities = not perfect, but certainly a billion times better than the despiseable and Australian habit of naming them after people.
:) Yeah, I'd actually like a few more mountain, river etc names than I have. Problem is, you can't use large rivers all that much because they are in lots and lots of constituencies, and with smaller rivers...well, they usually don't cover the area any better...and I often don't know what they are... Anyways naming a district after two towns rather than one at least conveys a reasonable picture of where the seat is. For example, take Pierre & Aberdeen in SD. Not only are they the two largest urban areas in the district, with about 40% of its total population together, but they're very near its SWern and NEern ends. (Aberdeen is larger than Pierre btw. My normal practice would be to name the seat Aberdeen & Pierre. I went with Pierre & Aberdeen because Pierre is the state capital.) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2005, 12:18:46 PM Nebraska
1,711 mio inhabitants. 17 seats. Lancaster - just over 250K, 3 seats Douglas - 463K, 5 seats Sarpy - 123K, 1 seat and part of one. Combined Douglas and Sarpy to form six seats. OMAHA 1-4 (cardinal points) Yeah, well. City of Omaha (390K), plus some enclaves from McArdle precinct (Nebraskan for township) ELKHORN CITY & RICHLAND Remainder of Douglas County, Forest City, Melia & Forest City, and Richland precincts of Sarpy County. 93K BELLEVUE & PAPILLION Remainder of Sarpy County. 103K LANCASTER SOUTH LANCASTER NORTH WEST LANCASTER NORTH EAST The city has 226K of county's 250K inhabitants. The remainder is organized in 4*6=24 precincts, which would all be square except that 4 of them have most of their territory and two more some of their territory removed to make Lincoln city. 7 should go into NW, 7 into NE, 10 into S, as in: first to third (e-to-w) tier: 2 NW, 2 NE. fourth tier: 1 NW, 2 S, 1 NE. fifth & sixth tier: S. The fleabitten ones are the middle ones in the second tier. The heavily fleabitten ones are the middle ones in the third & fourth tiers. Hope this description makes sense. BEATRICE & PLATTSMOUTH Cass, Otoe, Nemaha, Richardson, Pawnee, Johnson, Gage, Jefferson, Thayer, Saline. 115K FREMONT & YORK Fillmore, Seward, York, Polk, Butler, Sanders, Colfax, Dodge. 119K NORFOLK & BLAIR Washington, Burt, Cuming, Stanton, Madison, Platte, Boone, Nance. 120K (SOUTH SIOUX CITY &) NIOBRARA RIVER Thurston, Wayne, Dakota, Pierce, Dixon, Cedar, Antelope, Knox, Holt, Boyd, Rock, Keya Paha, Brown. 99K GRAND ISLAND & HASTINGS Hall, Adams, Clay, Nuckolls, Merrick, Hamilton. 114K KEARNEY & BROKEN BOW Dawson, Buffalo, Custer, Sherman, Valley, Blaine, Loup, Garfield, Wheeler, Greeley, Howard. 101K NORTH PLATTE & McCOOK Perkins, Lincoln, Chase, Hayes, Dundy, Hitchcock, Red Willow, Frontier, Gosper, Furnas, Phelps, Harlan, Franklin, Kearney, Webster. 98K SCOTTS BLUFF & OGALLALA Scotts Bluff, Banner, Kimball, Morrill, Cheyenne, Garden, Deuel, Sioux, Dawes, Box Butte, Sheridan, Cherry, Grant, Hooker, Thomas, Arthur, McPherson, Logan, Keith. 109K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on April 30, 2005, 01:31:56 PM Your system makes a case for a single state of Dakota (pop 1397 K, 14 seats). :)
NORTH DAKOTA 642K inhabitants, 6 seats FARGO Fargo and West Fargo cities of Cass County. 106K Quote JAMESTOWN & WAHPETON JAMESTOWN & DEVILS LAKERemainder of Cass County; Richland, Sargent, Ransom, Dickey, La Moure, Barnes, Traill, Steele, Griggs, Foster, Eddy, Nelson, Stutsman counties. 114K Add McHenry, Rolette, Pierce, Benson, Ramsey, remove Nelson, Richland, Ransom, Sargent, Dickey, LaMoure, remainder of Cass - 98 K Quote GRAND FORKS (& DEVILS LAKE) GRAND FORKSGrand Forks, Wash, Pembina, Cavalier, Ramsey, Towner counties. 107K Add Nelson, remove Ramsey - 99 K Quote BISMARCK Remove Benson, Pierce - 97 KBurleigh, Emmons, McLean, Sheridan, Wells, Kidder, Logan, McIntosh, Benson, Pierce counties. 109K Quote MINOT Remove Rolette and McHenry - 100 KWard, Renville, Mountrail, Burke, Divide, Williams, Bottineau, McHenry, Rolette counties. 120K Quote DICKINSON & MANDAN Add (from SD) Corson, Dewey, Ziebach - 102 KAll the counties to the SW of the Missouri River. 89K. This puts together the Standing Rock Reservation. SOUTH DAKOTA 755K 8 seats RAPID CITY Rapid City, Box Elder cities, Keytone town, Central Pennington, Rapid City East, Mount Rushmore CCDs (not everywhere in South Dakota is split completely into townships...many counties in the western part of the state are not) 83K Quote SPEARFISH & BLACK HILLS SPEARFISHRemainder of Pennington County (just 6K...I could have left it complete...look at a map and at the county's comprising this and the next district to understand why I didn't); Custer, Fall River, Meade, Lawrence, Butte, Harding, Perkins Counties. 79K, but decided to let it go Add Haakon, Stanley, Jones, Shannon, Jackson, Bennett, Todd, Mellette, remove Pennington, Custer, Fall River - 94 K Quote DAKOTA MITCHELL & HURONShannon, Bennett, Jackson, Todd, Haakon, Ziebach, Dewey, Corson, Mellette, Jones, Lyman, Tripp, Gregory, Buffalo, Charles Mix, Stanley, Brule. 80K. All the major Dakota reserves in the state are here. The district has 68% of the state's Native American population and is 53% Native American. And it doesn't look like a gerrymander. Add Beadle, Jerauld, Aurora, Sanborn, Davison, Douglas, Hanson, Miner, Kingsbury, remove Corson, Dewey, Ziebach, Haakon, Stanley, Jones, Shannon, Jackson, Bennett, Todd, Mellette - 90 K Quote PIERRE & ABERDEEN Add (from ND) Dickey, LaMoure - 97 KHughes, Sully, Hyde, Hand, Potter, Faulk, Walworth, Campbell, Edmunds, McPherson, Brown, Spink. 87K Quote WATERTOWN & BROOKINGS WATERTOWNMarshall, Day, Roberts, Grant, Deuel, Codington, Clark, Hamlin, Brookings, Kingsbury. 103K Add (from ND) Richland, Ransom, Sargent, remainder of Cass, remove Brookings, Kingsbury, Hamlin, Deuel, Clark - 101 K Quote MITCHELL & HURON BROOKINGSBeadle, Jerauld, Aurora, Sanborn, Miner, Davison, Hanson, McCook, Lake, Moody, Douglas counties, and all of Minnehaha County outside Sioux Falls city limits. 108K Add Brookings, Hamlin, Deuel, Clark, remove Beadle, Jerauld, Aurora, Sanborn, Davison, Douglas, Hanson, Miner - 97 K Quote SIOUX FALLS Leave as is - 117 KCity of Sioux Falls. 117K Quote YANKTON Leave as is - 97 KHutchinson, Turner, Lincoln, Bonhomme, Yankton, Clay, Union counties. 97K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on April 30, 2005, 06:06:33 PM When you get to IL, within Chicago the easiest subdivisions are for "Community Areas". These are equivalent to groups of census tracts and are all named by their neighborhood. If you don't have the data, I can get it to you.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Hatman 🍁 on May 01, 2005, 01:18:27 AM whilst I appreciate you doing this, the prblem with naming seats after twons is that it doesn't cover the whole seat. For example, when it was created Kalgoorlie was just the town, which was bigger as a % back in 1901 then it is now. It now spreads throughout practically th whole WA outback. It's probably the only case of this problem in Australia. But you look at seats in Canada like that Kenowa-something one-what about all the other areas? Calling the seat "Rural Ontario Central West" would be more accurate, but rather boring. Naming it after a community leader in the area, or a river, etc., is much better imho. I live in a relativekly boringly-named seat, Melbourne Ports, which sorta kinda suffers the smae probelms as Kalgoorlie. When it was created, it basically only covered Port Melbourne, the dockyards, South Melbourne and Albert Park-the area the port's workers lived in, basically, and where the Port asolutely dominated life. Now it spreads right along the bay, although it is still a reasonable name because it is basically the whole inner city shorline. Anyway, names that are based on locations generally=bad. Um... Kelowna is in British Columbia not Ontario. And naming districts after people is just dumb for the geographers at heart. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 01, 2005, 01:48:15 PM whilst I appreciate you doing this, the prblem with naming seats after twons is that it doesn't cover the whole seat. For example, when it was created Kalgoorlie was just the town, which was bigger as a % back in 1901 then it is now. It now spreads throughout practically th whole WA outback. It's probably the only case of this problem in Australia. But you look at seats in Canada like that Kenowa-something one-what about all the other areas? Calling the seat "Rural Ontario Central West" would be more accurate, but rather boring. Naming it after a community leader in the area, or a river, etc., is much better imho. I live in a relativekly boringly-named seat, Melbourne Ports, which sorta kinda suffers the smae probelms as Kalgoorlie. When it was created, it basically only covered Port Melbourne, the dockyards, South Melbourne and Albert Park-the area the port's workers lived in, basically, and where the Port asolutely dominated life. Now it spreads right along the bay, although it is still a reasonable name because it is basically the whole inner city shorline. Anyway, names that are based on locations generally=bad. Um... Kelowna is in British Columbia not Ontario. And naming districts after people is just dumb for the geographers at heart. Anyways, Australians are doing that all the time. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 01, 2005, 01:49:19 PM When you get to IL, within Chicago the easiest subdivisions are for "Community Areas". These are equivalent to groups of census tracts and are all named by their neighborhood. If you don't have the data, I can get it to you. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 01, 2005, 01:55:56 PM Your system makes a case for a single state of Dakota (pop 1397 K, 14 seats). :) Quote DICKINSON & MANDAN Add (from SD) Corson, Dewey, Ziebach - 102 KAll the counties to the SW of the Missouri River. 89K. This puts together the Standing Rock Reservation. Quote Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Reservations, actually. While they're both Sioux, they're not home to quite the same Sioux subgroups. Cheyenne River was settled by the Minneconjou, Sans Arc, and Two Kettle, and part of the confusingly named Blackfeet Sioux (all Northern Oglala subgroups). Standing Rock has the remainder of the Blackfeet Sioux, as well as most of Sitting Bull's own Hunkpapa (also a Northern Oglala group) and the bulk of the Yanktonai (not an Oglala group.) Anyways, I'd prefer to leave my little gerrymander intact. Maybe add Sioux County ND to the Dakota seat.Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 01, 2005, 04:29:45 PM Changed some seat names in the Mountains. I'll have to transfer Sierra County out of the Alamogordo seat, it's divided from the remainder of the seat by a missile range. Probably exchange it for Socorro. Edit: Done. Interesting. What 'building blocks' are you using to create the districts, anyway? Counties and...? Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 01, 2005, 08:24:02 PM Theoretical entitlements: Weld 180, 2 seats Boulder 291, 3 seats (notice I'm using 2000 figures, before Broomfield County was created) Adams 363, 4 seats Jefferson 527, 5 seats This gives: Adams 348 Boulder 269 Broomfield 39 Jefferson 525 Weld 180 This makes your proposed pairing of Adams and Denver more reasonable (or you could keep them separate and give Adams 3 very large districts). Boulder and Broomfield would be paired for 3 districts. No adjustment to Weld or Jefferson is needed. I have redone the outstate areas to take better account of things like mountain ranges and economic links. Also, you left out Alamosa. COLORADO NORTH WEST Moffat, Routt, Jackson, Rio Blanco, Garfield, Pitkin 99K (note that only all-year route out of Aspen is down the Roaring Fork Valley to Glenwood Springs. A large share of Aspen ski workers live in Garfield County because Aspen is too expensive) CENTRAL ROCKIES Gilpin, Clear Creek, Summit, Eagle, Park, Grand 106K (Added Grand, dropped Lake) GRAND JUNCTION Mesa 117K COLORADO SOUTH WEST Gunnison, Chaffee, Delta, Montrose, Ouray, San Miguel, Hinsdale, Montezuma, Dolores 112K (not real happy about including Montezuma, but otherwise next district would be over). SAN JUANS & SAN LUIS VALLEY San Juan, La Plata, Archuleta, Mineral, Rio Grande, Conejos, Costilla, Alamosa, Saguache 101K UPPER ARKANSAS Teller, Fremont, Chaffee, Custer, Lake 94K PUEBLO Pueblo CCD of Pueblo County. 107K LOWER ARKANSAS & SANGRE DE CRISTO Remainder of Pueblo County; Huerfano, Las Animas, Otero, Baca, Bent, Kiowa, Prowers. 110K LOWER PLATTE & HIGH PLAINS Logan, Segwick, Phillips, Yuma, Washington, Kit Carson, Cheyenne, Lincoln, Elbert, Morgan. 113K. Quote LONGMONT If Broomfield is paired with Boulder County, then the former Adams County part of Broomfield would probably bring the Broomfield, Lafayette, & Louisville seat up to size without taking out areas nearer to Boulder. This would then give you a Boulder (city) and mountains seat, and a Longmont seat, including Niwot if needed.Longmont and Upper Saint Vrain CCDs of Boulder County. 86K BOULDER (WEST) Bald Mountain CCD, most of Boulder CCD of Boulder County. 125K -x. LAFAYETTE & LOUISVILLE (or LAFAYETTE & BOULDER EAST) Lafayette - Louisville CCD (79K), plus areas from Boulder CCD. Quote DENVER 1-5 6 if separate from Adams. Neighborhoods are too small. Maybe two west of the Platte (NW and SW), then C, NE, S (or E depending on C) and SE.Yeah, well, 5 seats. Cardinal or neighborhood names. Quote WEST ADAMS 1 & 2 If you were pairing Denver and Adams, I would look at pairing Aurora with Denver. Aurora is isolated from the rest of the populated area north of Denver. In any case, I suspect Aurora is the largest city in the Brighton & Commerce City district.Two seats inside the West Adams CCD (260K) of Adams County. Thornton would definitely go into one name. Westminster might go into the other. (Denver area city boundaries have nothing in common with county boundaries. Lots of cities are half in one county, half in another. I don't know why.) DENVER / WEST ADAMS Obviously the name's not going to stand, but this is the seat cutting across the city line. BRIGHTON & COMMERCE CITY Brighton, Commerce City, North Aurora, and East Adams CCDs. 104K Quote LITTLETON Probably Littleton-Englewood, Centennial, and the 3 Aurora seats (South, Souther, and Southest).SOUTHGLENN Southwest Arapahoe CCD. 183K AURORA 1-3 (cardinal points) South Aurora CCD (298K, of which 236K inside the city). And, included in one district, East Arapahoe (8K). Quote LAKEWOOD NORTH (or WEST) Wheat Ridge goes somewhere. It probably makes most sense to have one western (foothills) seat, and stack the other four, north to south. This would mean dividing Lakewood North and South. But maybe this ends up with too much north of Lakewood, and not enough south?LAKEWOOD SOUTH (or EAST) ARVADA SOME OTHER NAME inside the North East Jefferson CCD (450K) GOLDEN Remainder of Jefferson County (77K from Golden, Central Jefferson, and South Jefferson CCDs, plus a bit from NE Jefferson) Quote SEDALIA The first would be Highlands Ranch. The town of Sedalia would fit better with Castle Rock.Sedalia CCD of Douglas County. 97K PARKER & CASTLE ROCK CCDs of said names. 79K. Douglas County is one of the fastest growing in the nation, so I won't bother with the slight discrepancy. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 01:31:32 AM Changed some seat names in the Mountains. I'll have to transfer Sierra County out of the Alamogordo seat, it's divided from the remainder of the seat by a missile range. Probably exchange it for Socorro. Edit: Done. Interesting. What 'building blocks' are you using to create the districts, anyway? Counties and...? Btw, when I wrote "that means you" in the NM article, I meant you. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 01:40:10 AM Quote Theoretical entitlements: The Census Bureau estimates include a restatement of the April 2000 census figures to the current boundaries.Weld 180, 2 seats Boulder 291, 3 seats (notice I'm using 2000 figures, before Broomfield County was created) Adams 363, 4 seats Jefferson 527, 5 seats This gives: Adams 348 Boulder 269 Broomfield 39 Jefferson 525 Weld 180 This makes your proposed pairing of Adams and Denver more reasonable (or you could keep them separate and give Adams 3 very large districts). Boulder and Broomfield would be paired for 3 districts. No adjustment to Weld or Jefferson is needed. I have redone the outstate areas to take better account of things like mountain ranges and economic links. Also, you left out Alamosa. Quote COLORADO NORTH WEST Moffat, Routt, Jackson, Rio Blanco, Garfield, Pitkin 99K (note that only all-year route out of Aspen is down the Roaring Fork Valley to Glenwood Springs. A large share of Aspen ski workers live in Garfield County because Aspen is too expensive) CENTRAL ROCKIES Gilpin, Clear Creek, Summit, Eagle, Park, Grand 106K (Added Grand, dropped Lake) GRAND JUNCTION Mesa 117K COLORADO SOUTH WEST Gunnison, Chaffee, Delta, Montrose, Ouray, San Miguel, Hinsdale, Montezuma, Dolores 112K (not real happy about including Montezuma, but otherwise next district would be over). SAN JUANS & SAN LUIS VALLEY San Juan, La Plata, Archuleta, Mineral, Rio Grande, Conejos, Costilla, Alamosa, Saguache 101K UPPER ARKANSAS Teller, Fremont, Chaffee, Custer, Lake 94K PUEBLO Pueblo CCD of Pueblo County. 107K LOWER ARKANSAS & SANGRE DE CRISTO Remainder of Pueblo County; Huerfano, Las Animas, Otero, Baca, Bent, Kiowa, Prowers. 110K LOWER PLATTE & HIGH PLAINS Logan, Segwick, Phillips, Yuma, Washington, Kit Carson, Cheyenne, Lincoln, Elbert, Morgan. 113K. Quote LONGMONT If Broomfield is paired with Boulder County, then the former Adams County part of Broomfield would probably bring the Broomfield, Lafayette, & Louisville seat up to size without taking out areas nearer to Boulder. This would then give you a Boulder (city) and mountains seat, and a Longmont seat, including Niwot if needed.Longmont and Upper Saint Vrain CCDs of Boulder County. 86K BOULDER (WEST) Bald Mountain CCD, most of Boulder CCD of Boulder County. 125K -x. LAFAYETTE & LOUISVILLE (or LAFAYETTE & BOULDER EAST) Lafayette - Louisville CCD (79K), plus areas from Boulder CCD. Quote DENVER 1-5 6 if separate from Adams. Neighborhoods are too small. Maybe two west of the Platte (NW and SW), then C, NE, S (or E depending on C) and SE.Yeah, well, 5 seats. Cardinal or neighborhood names. Quote WEST ADAMS 1 & 2 If you were pairing Denver and Adams, I would look at pairing Aurora with Denver. Aurora is isolated from the rest of the populated area north of Denver. In any case, I suspect Aurora is the largest city in the Brighton & Commerce City district.Two seats inside the West Adams CCD (260K) of Adams County. Thornton would definitely go into one name. Westminster might go into the other. (Denver area city boundaries have nothing in common with county boundaries. Lots of cities are half in one county, half in another. I don't know why.) DENVER / WEST ADAMS Obviously the name's not going to stand, but this is the seat cutting across the city line. BRIGHTON & COMMERCE CITY Brighton, Commerce City, North Aurora, and East Adams CCDs. 104K Yeah, it's probably a good idea to pair that area with Denver. Although for contiguity reasons, you'd probably have to include East Adams as well. Quote Quote LITTLETON Probably Littleton-Englewood, Centennial, and the 3 Aurora seats (South, Souther, and Southest).SOUTHGLENN Southwest Arapahoe CCD. 183K AURORA 1-3 (cardinal points) South Aurora CCD (298K, of which 236K inside the city). And, included in one district, East Arapahoe (8K). Quote LAKEWOOD NORTH (or WEST) Wheat Ridge goes somewhere. It probably makes most sense to have one western (foothills) seat, and stack the other four, north to south. This would mean dividing Lakewood North and South. But maybe this ends up with too much north of Lakewood, and not enough south?LAKEWOOD SOUTH (or EAST) ARVADA SOME OTHER NAME inside the North East Jefferson CCD (450K) GOLDEN Remainder of Jefferson County (77K from Golden, Central Jefferson, and South Jefferson CCDs, plus a bit from NE Jefferson) You probably do, from the sound of it. Quote Quote SEDALIA The first would be Highlands Ranch. The town of Sedalia would fit better with Castle Rock.Sedalia CCD of Douglas County. 97K PARKER & CASTLE ROCK CCDs of said names. 79K. Douglas County is one of the fastest growing in the nation, so I won't bother with the slight discrepancy. Oh, and btw: Lower Arkansas and Lower Platte are not conceivable names for Colorado districts, since the areas that could be described by them are not in Colorado. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 03:25:42 AM KANSAS
2,688 mio. 27 seats. Wyandotte - 158K. 1+1 seats. Paired with Johnson. Johnson - 451K. Should be 5 seats, is 4+1. Douglas - 100K. 1 seat. Shawnee - 170K. 2 seats. Sedgwick - 453K. 5 seats. Remainder - 1,357 mio. 13 seats. Yeah, that's just over half the population, but less than half the seats. Happened in Nebraska too. Similar stuff happened in a number of states, in fact. And is the main reason for pairings like Denver/Adams, or Wyandotte/Johnson where the rules would dictate pairing Wyandotte with rural country to the NW. KANSAS CITY (KS) EAST Part of Kansas City (147K) KANSAS CITY (KS) WEST & SHAWNEE Remainder of Wyandotte County including three small townships at its western end, Shawnee city, Shawnee township, Lake Quivira city. 207K for both seats. LEAWOOD & MERRIAM Leawood, Prairie Village, over half a dozen tiny "cities" and townships in the NEern corner of Johnson county, small part of northernmost Overland Park along US 69, Merriam city. 88K plus part of Overland Park. OVERLAND PARK NORTH & LENEXA Lenexa (40K), part of Overland Park (149K). OVERLAND PARK SOUTH Remainder of Overland Park, part of more rural areas to the south & west of Olathe (combined pop. 33K) OLATHE Olathe city, Olathe township (93K), plus part of more rural areas to the south & west. LAWRENCE Douglas county. 100K TOPEKA NORTH Part of Topeka city (122K), townships to the north of the Kansas river (18K) TOPEKA SOUTH Remainder of Topeka city, townships to the south of the Kansas river (30K) LEAVENWORTH Leavenworth, Jefferson, Atchison counties. 104K KANSAS NORTH EAST Doniphan, Brown, Jackson, Nemaha, Marshall, Pottawattomie, Washington, Republic, Cloud, and Jewell counties. 98K. No discernible urban area of any kind. This is farmland, with a very dispersed population. No defining river, either. MANHATTAN Riley, Clay, and Geary counties. 100K SALINA Dickinson, Saline, Ottawa, McPherson counties. 109K EMPORIA & OTTAWA Wabaunsee, Morris, Lyon, Chase, Marion, Osage, Coffey, Franklin counties. 116K KANSAS EAST Miami, Linn, Anderson, Bourbon, Allen, Crawford counties. 113K. A really ugly district. Much of the population is at the northern (KC far far exurban, without any major place names) and southern (where Crawford county fits much better with the next district, but is too large to be included in it) district. PARSONS & COFFEYVILLE Cherokee, Neosho, Labette, Montgomery counties. 99K EL DORADO & UPPER VERDIGRIS RIVER Wilson, Woodson, Greenwood, Elk, Chautauqua, Butler counties. 88K WICHITA NORTH EAST Part of the city (344K); Bel Aire city, Grant, Lincoln, Payne, Mineha, and Kechie townships (24K) WICHITA NORTH WEST Part of the city; Greeley, Eagle, Valley Center, Park, Union, Sherman, Attica, Garden Plain, Grand River, and Delano townships (21K) WICHITA SOUTH WEST Part of the city; Morton, Alton (hope I deciphered this right), Illinois, Waco, Ohio, Ninnescah, Viola, Erie townships (13K) WICHITA CENTRAL Part of the city WICHITA SOUTH EAST & DERBY Part of the city; Salem, Rockford, Riverside and Gypsum townships (50K) WELLINGTON & FORT LARNED Cowley, Sumner, Harper, Kingman, Barber, Pratt, Stafford, Comanche, Kiowa, Edwards, Pawnee counties. 103K. Most of the population is in Cowley and Sumner counties south of Wichita. Remainder of the district is west of Wichita on the High Plains. Fort Larned chosen to represent this area in the district name on account of historical importance. DODGE CITY & GARDEN CITY Finney, Hodgeman, Carey, Ford, Meade, Clark counties. 101K HUTCHINSON & NEWTON Reno and Harvey counties. 98K GREAT BEND & HAYS Rice, Ellsworth, Lincoln, Mitchell, Barton, Russell, Osborne, Smith, Rush, Ellis, Rocks, Phillips counties. 117K (LIBERAL &) KANSAS WEST 25 counties all along the state's western boundary. 113K. Liberal is only majorish population hub and is situated at district's southeastern end. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 02, 2005, 04:14:05 AM Quote SEDALIA The first would be Highlands Ranch. The town of Sedalia would fit better with Castle Rock.Sedalia CCD of Douglas County. 97K PARKER & CASTLE ROCK CCDs of said names. 79K. Douglas County is one of the fastest growing in the nation, so I won't bother with the slight discrepancy. Quote Oh, and btw: Lower Arkansas and Lower Platte are not conceivable names for Colorado districts, since the areas that could be described by them are not in Colorado. Pulls out Colorado Year Book. "Lower Arkansas Region". Same counties as I included. "Lower Platte" is the name of a high school sports conference in the area. When you hold your hearing in Sterling, I bet the local folks agree.Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 04:45:18 AM Yeah, yeah, I know all that. Well, I figure people use those terms. But I'd want people from outside the region to be able to find it on a map, as well.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 05:12:42 AM OKLAHOMA
3,451 mio inhabitants. 35 seats. Tulsa - 563K. 6 seats Oklahoma - 660K. 7 seats. Cleveland - 208K. 2 seats Canadian - 88K. 1 seat. Comanche - 115K. 1 seat. TULSA NORTH & OWASSO TULSA WEST & SAND SPRINGS 3 more TULSA seats BROKEN ARROW CCDs are Tulsa (536K), North Tulsa (10K) and South Tulsa (17K) and are not particularly helpful. City of Tulsa has 387K. City of Broken Arrow (in the SE portion of the county) has 68K. Owasso and Sand Springs have about 20K each and are not right by Tulsa city limits. Tulsa North & Owasso constituency to include North Tulsa CCD. Broken Arrow to include South Tulsa CCD. Tulsa West & Sand Springs to include that western handle of Tulsa county, which is where Sand Springs is located. BARTLESVILLE & MIAMI Washington, Nowata, Craig, Ottawa. 108K CLAREMORE & PRYOR CREEK Rogers, Mayes. 109K SALLISAW & GRAND LAKE O'CHEROKEES (what a stupid name. Problem is that Delaware county has a lot of people and no defining place. SALLISAW & OZARKS SOUTH WEST was the second best I came up with). Delaware, Adair, Sequoyah. 97K COWETA & TAHLEQUAH Wagoner, Cherokee. 100K MUSKOGEE Muskogee, McIntosh, Haskell. 100K McALESTER & OKMULGEE Okmulgee, Okfuskee, Hughes, Pittsburg. 110K SAPULPA Creek, Lincoln. 99K PONCA CITY & OSAGE Osage, Pawnee, Kay. 109K STILLWATER & GUTHRIE Logan, Payne. 102K SHAWNEE Pottawattomie, Seminole. 91K ENID Noble, Garfield, Grant, Kingfisher, Blaine. 100K OKLAHOMA CITY 1-5 (cardinal points) EDMOND MIDWEST CITY Oklahoma County, which is not subdivided into CCDs. City has 432K. CANADIAN Canadian county. 88K MOORE & LAKE THUNDERBIRD North Cleveland, East Cleveland, Lexington CCDs. 114K NORMAN Norman, Noble CCDs. 95K WOODWARD & PANHANDLE Cimarron, Texas, Beaver, Harper, Ellis, Woodward, Woods, Major, Dewey, Alfalfa. 93K CLINTON & ALTUS Beckham, Roger Mills, Custer, Greer, Harmon, Jackson, Tillman, Cotton counties. 102K LAWTON Comanche county. 115K CHICKASHA & ANADARKO Grady, Caddo, Wa shi ta, Kiowa counties. 98K ARDMORE & DUNCAN Jefferson, Stephens, Love, Carter counties. 105K ADA & PAULS VALLEY Murray, McClain, Garvin, Pontotoc. 103K DURANT Johnson, Marshall, Coal, Atoka, Bryan, Choctaw. 96K OUACHITA MOUNTAINS LeFlore, Latimer, McCurtain, Pushmataha. 105K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 02, 2005, 05:36:12 AM ANADARKO Grady, Caddo, Wash**ta, Kiowa counties. 98K I'd name it Chickasha in any case. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 05:55:33 AM ANADARKO Grady, Caddo, Wash**ta, Kiowa counties. 98K I'd name it Chickasha in any case. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 02, 2005, 06:33:57 AM TEXAS (no, don't hold your breath, not done yet)
20,852 mio inhabitants 209 seats. The following counties entitled to seats of their own: 1 Angelina, 80K Victoria, 84K Orange, 85K Parker, 88K Bowie, 89K Guadalupe, 89K Hays, 98K Randall, 104K Tom Green, 104K Ellis, 111K Grayson, 111K Gregg, 111K Potter, 114K Midland, 116K 1+1 Ector, 121K Johnson, 127K Wichita, 132K Brazos, 152K 2 Smith, 175K Webb, 193K McLennan, 214K Bell, 238K 2+1 Brazoria, 242K Lubbock, 243K Williamson, 250K 3 Galveston, 250K Jefferson, 252K Montgomery, 294K Nueces, 314K Cameron, 335K 4 Fort Bend, 354K Denton, 433K 5 Collin, 491K 6 Hidalgo, 569K 7 El Paso, 680K 8 Travis, 812K 14 Bexar, 1,393 mio Tarrant, 1,446 mio 22 Dallas, 2,219 mio 34 Harris, 3,401 mio ...leaving 4,012 mio in the remaining 213 counties for 35 seats and part of 8. I've checked whether any of the +1 counties might be combined with other major counties, and will probably combine Galveston and Brazoria (492K, 5 seats, leaving 36+7) and Bell and Williamson (488K, 5 seats, leaving 35+6). Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 02, 2005, 12:50:42 PM Changed some seat names in the Mountains. I'll have to transfer Sierra County out of the Alamogordo seat, it's divided from the remainder of the seat by a missile range. Probably exchange it for Socorro. Edit: Done. Interesting. What 'building blocks' are you using to create the districts, anyway? Counties and...? Btw, when I wrote "that means you" in the NM article, I meant you. OK, got it. And I figured you were referring to me, I've just been (and likely will be for much of the next month) too busy to give this the attention it deserves. ;) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Hatman 🍁 on May 02, 2005, 11:58:48 PM whilst I appreciate you doing this, the prblem with naming seats after twons is that it doesn't cover the whole seat. For example, when it was created Kalgoorlie was just the town, which was bigger as a % back in 1901 then it is now. It now spreads throughout practically th whole WA outback. It's probably the only case of this problem in Australia. But you look at seats in Canada like that Kenowa-something one-what about all the other areas? Calling the seat "Rural Ontario Central West" would be more accurate, but rather boring. Naming it after a community leader in the area, or a river, etc., is much better imho. I live in a relativekly boringly-named seat, Melbourne Ports, which sorta kinda suffers the smae probelms as Kalgoorlie. When it was created, it basically only covered Port Melbourne, the dockyards, South Melbourne and Albert Park-the area the port's workers lived in, basically, and where the Port asolutely dominated life. Now it spreads right along the bay, although it is still a reasonable name because it is basically the whole inner city shorline. Anyway, names that are based on locations generally=bad. Um... Kelowna is in British Columbia not Ontario. And naming districts after people is just dumb for the geographers at heart. Anyways, Australians are doing that all the time. Hmm, well Kenora is named for Kenora District, not Kenora the town. However, kelowna would make sense in his analogy - sorta. Anyways, this is really no fun without maps. Why go through all the trouble without trying to visually entertain us. I'm not American, I have trouble envisioning this without maps. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 04:17:02 AM Yeah, me too. It's just that I don't know how to make them. And am not always working from the same computer.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 03, 2005, 05:12:54 AM ...leaving 4,012 mio in the remaining 213 counties for 35 seats and part of 8. I've checked whether any of the +1 counties might be combined with other major counties, and will probably combine Galveston and Brazoria (492K, 5 seats, leaving 36+7) and Bell and Williamson (488K, 5 seats, leaving 35+6). Pairing Ellis and Johnson and you can pick cities on either side of the county line, and avoid having to go outside the DFW metro area for the second Johnson district. The Williamson population is concentrate along the southern edge near Austin, while the Bell population is around Temple, and Killeen/Fort Hood. On the other hand, it may not be reak easy to find a county to go with Williamson. Can it be given a 3rd district? The population centers in Galveston and Brazoria are split apart except for the Houston suburbs. Another possiblity pairing would be Jefferson-Orange. Beaumont will be a problem for 3 small seats, but OK for 3 large seats. You could include Port Neches-Groves-Nederland area with Orange, and then have a Beaumont seat and a Port Arthur and everything else seat. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 05:35:18 AM ...leaving 4,012 mio in the remaining 213 counties for 35 seats and part of 8. I've checked whether any of the +1 counties might be combined with other major counties, and will probably combine Galveston and Brazoria (492K, 5 seats, leaving 36+7) and Bell and Williamson (488K, 5 seats, leaving 35+6). Pairing Ellis and Johnson and you can pick cities on either side of the county line, and avoid having to go outside the DFW metro area for the second Johnson district. I've paired Johnson County with areas to the West now - Hood (which would appear to be exurban in population structure), Somervell (which is tiny anyways), and Erath counties. Then, it's not actually necessary to split the city of Odessa. Odessa CDP has 101K and seems to include all of the city. Of course, most of the remaining 20K is just outside city limits in an unincorporated place called West Odessa ...anyways these 20K serve me well to create a "rural Permian Basin" district... which brings me to one naming question: How far North does the "Permian Basin" extend? How far North and South does the Llano Estacado extend? Quote The Williamson population is concentrate along the southern edge near Austin, while the Bell population is around Temple, and Killeen/Fort Hood. Yes, I noticed that. However, one Killeen seat, one Temple seat, two Just-outside-Austin seats, and one seat for the remainder works out reasonably well, except that I had to include Belton in it to bring it to just over 80K.Quote The population centers in Galveston and Brazoria are split apart except for the Houston suburbs. which is where I located the boundary-crossing district. However, there is an alternative. Haven't checked how well it works out yet (I'll do it if you tell me to.) That would be to pair Brazoria and Fort Bend, let Galveston have three districts of its own.Quote Another possiblity pairing would be Jefferson-Orange. Beaumont will be a problem for 3 small seats, but OK for 3 large seats. You could include Port Neches-Groves-Nederland area with Orange, and then have a Beaumont seat and a Port Arthur and everything else seat. I'd also have to create another rural district. :) Going by CCD's Beaumont has 113K, E Jefferson has 116K, and three or four smaller ones have 22K. If pairing that with Orange was what you proposed, yeah, everything neat numberswise. It's not, though. The area you're pairing with Orange is the NWern part of "East Jefferson"...indeed it would have to be that area as those rural areas are SW of it. So I'd basically have to include them in the Port Arthur seat, then. That's still somewhat neater then the best I could come up with with three seats* and Orange County its own seat, but not really neat enough to warrant violating the "rules" - especially as I don't need another district for rural Texas. * A Beaumont North seat, a Port Arthur seat, and a Beaumont South - Texas Point seat to include the Southern fourth of Beaumont, the Nederland etc area SE of it, and the rural areas in the South and West of the county. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 05:53:07 AM TEXAS
first enstalment - East Texas outside the metros. 20,852 mio 209 seats TEXARKANA (& NEW BOSTON) Bowie County. 89K PARIS & SULPHUR SPRINGS Lamar, Delta, Hopkins, Franklin, Red River. 108K MOUNT PLEASANT (grateful for better name) Titus, Morris, Camp, Upshur. 93K MARSHALL Harrison, Marion, Cass. 103K LONGVIEW Gregg. 111K VAN ZANDT & UPPER SABINE Van Zandt, Rains, Wood. 94K TYLER Tyler CDP. 88K (but just 69K of the city's 84K, oddly) WHITEHOUSE & LINDALE (though the largest city is actually...Tyler. Numbers were to good to resist, though.) Remainder of Smith County. 87K SABINE RIVER Panola, Shelby, San Augustine, Sabine, Jasper, Newton. 118K NACOGDOCHES Nacogdoches, Rusk. 106K LUFKIN (or ANGELINA) Angelina. 80K BIG THICKET Tyler, Polk, Hardin. 110K HUNTSVILLE Walker, San Jacinto, Trinity. 98K Just noticed I forgot something. I decided to split Anderson County, pair part with Henderson, part with Cherokee and Houston. I haven't worked out yet where the split goes. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 06:25:07 AM TEXAS
part two CROCKETT, PALESTINE & JACKSONVILLE Cherokee, Houston counties; Elkhart and Palestine CCDs of Anderson couny. 102K ATHENS Henderson county; Cayuga, Montalba - Tennessee Colony, and Frankston CCDs of Anderson county. 96K HILLSBORO & CORSICANA Navarro, Hill, Freestone. 95K (MARLIN &) NAVASOTA RIVER Falls, Limestone, Robertson, Leon, Madison, Grimes. 109K COLLEGE STATION North East Brazos, South Brazos CCDs, part of Bryan - College Station CCD in College Station. 89K BRYAN & CAMERON Part of Bryan - College Station CCD in Bryan, West Brazos CCD, Burleson, Milam counties. 103K BRENHAM, HEMPSTEAD & BELLVILLE Austin, Waller, Washington. 87K ORANGE Orange County. 85K PORT ARTHUR SW Part of East Jefferson CCD (116K) BEAUMONT NORTH Part of Beaumont CCD (113K) BEAUMONT SOUTH & NEDERLAND Remainder of both CCDs Remainder of Jefferson County (22K) to be distributed shortly. LOWER TRINITY Liberty, Chambers. 96K THE WOODLANDS CONROE South East Montgomery CCD. 208K LAKE CONROE Remainder of Montgomery county. 86K BAYTOWN Baytown, North East Harris CCDs. 113K PASADENA EAST & LAPORTE South East Harris CCD (82K), part of Pasadena CCD (136K) PASADENA WEST Remainder of Pasadena CCD. HOUSTON 1-27 (would have to be named afer neighborhoods. Obviously.) 1,907 mio of this area's 2,665 mio are officially within city limits. There are no really major suburban towns. NORTH WEST HARRIS 1-4 (place names, not cardinal points, obviously) 405 K together. Many very small suburban cities, much unincorporated land. Plan A for Galveston/Brazoria/Fort Bend area. Plan B will be made if Jim tells me to. GALVESTON Galveston, Bolivar Peninsula, La Marque - Hitchcock CCDs. 87K TEXAS CITY Part of Texas City - League City CCD (163K). If possible, all but Friendswood and League City (66K together) LEAGUE CITY - PEARLAND Remainder of Texas City - League City CCD (and thus of Galveston county). city of Pearland from Alvin - Pearland CCD (109K) of Brazoria County. This should be as close as coterminously possible to just Pearland, Friendswood, and League City (102K) ANGLETON & ALVIN Remainder of Alvin - Pearland CCD, Angleton - Rosharon CCD (40K) LAKE JACKSON Brazosport, Brazoria - West Columbia CCDs. 93K MISSOURI CITY Stafford - Missouri City CCD of Fort Bend county. 89K SUGAR LAND (EAST) Part of Sugar Land CCD (167K) PECAN GROVE & MISSION BEND (or SUGAR LAND WEST, or PECAN GROVE & SUGAR LAND WEST) Remainder. ROSENBERG & RICHMOND. What's the county named for anyway?) Remainder of the county. 98K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 07:40:50 AM TEXAS
Part three MATAGORDA BAY Matagorda, Jackson, Calhoun, Aransas, Regugio. 103K WHARTON, EAGLE LAKE & HALLETTSVILLE Wharton, Colorado, Lavaca. 80K BASTROP, GIDDINGS & LAGRANGE Bastrop, Fayette, Lee. 96K GONZALES & FLORESVILLE Kramer, DeWitt, Wilson, Gonzales. 103K VICTORIA Victoria. 84K SINTON & BEEVILLE San Patricio, Bee, Goliad. 106K CORPUS CHRISTI CENTRAL CORPUS CHRISTI EAST & PORT ARANSAS CORPUS CHRISTI WEST & ROBSTOWN Nueces County. Corpus Christi CCD 269K is in all three districts. Port Aransas CCD 10K is in the eastern district. Remainder of county 35K is in the western district. KINGSVILLE & ALICE Duval, Jim Wells, Kleberg. 85K ATASCOSA & NUECES RIVERS Frio, La Salle, McMullen, Live Oak, Atascosa, Karnes. 88K LAREDO NORTH LAREDO SOUTH (& RIO BRAVO) Webb County. 193K. Parts of Laredo CCD (143K) in both districts. South includes Bruni - Mirando CCD (40K, of which 25K actually in Laredo), North includes Webb CCD (10K) RIO GRANDE CITY & RAYMONDSVILLE Starr, Zapata, Jim Hogg, Brooks, Kenedy, Willacy. 99K McALLEN PHARR & SAN JUAN McAllen - Pharr CCD of Hidalgo county. 208K EDINBURG Edinburg CCD. 98K or somewhat less (see below) WESLACO & DONNA South East Hidalgo CCD. 102K or somewhat less (see below) MISSION About 90K of Mission CCD (110K), the Alton area missing. ELSA & SULLIVAN CITY Remaining CCDs of Hidalgo County (52K), about 20K from Mission CCD, at least about 10K from either Edinburg or South East Hidalgo CCD. SE makes more sense numberswise, Edinburg geographically. Should be only from one of the two - no need to split both HARLINGEN Part of Harlingen - San Benito CCD (129K) of Cameron County BROWNSVILLE (SOUTH) Part of Brownsville city (136K) and CCD (164K). BROWNSVILLE NORTH & SOUTH PADRE ISLAND Remainder of both, remaining CCDs (42K) I'm trapped! :) I'll have to restart from the North! WICHITA FALLS Wichita Falls CCD. 108K GAINESVILLE & BURKBURNETT Remainder of Wichita county, Archer, Clay, Montague, Cooke counties. 99K GRAHAM & MINERAL WELLS Palo Pinto, Jack, Wise, Young. 103K SHERMAN & DENISON Grayson. 111K GREENVILLE & BONHAM Hunt, Fannin. 108K ROCKWALL & KAUFMAN Rockwall, Kaufman. 114K PLANO NORTH PLANO SOUTH PLANO EAST & ALLEN (geographical points might be off due to population distribution inside Plano) Parts of Plano CCD (361K) - mostly cities of Plano (222K) and Allen (45K) LAKE LAVON Remainder of Plano CCD, Princeton, Farmersville, Nevada, Blue Ridge CCDs (29K) McKINNEY McKinney, Celina, Anna CCDs. 101K HEBRON (or CARROLTON NORTH) - THE COLONY Denton County CCDs of these names. 119K Most of Hebron CCD is in Carrolton city, which crosses the county line. LEWISVILLE FLOWER MOUND Lewisville (170K) and Justin - Roanoke (28K) CCDs. 198K together DENTON Denton, Pilot Point - Aubrey, Sanger CCDs. 117K DALLAS 1-22 (neighborhood and suburb names) CCDs are Northeast (14 seats) and Southwest (8 seats) and are not particularly helpful or anything. I think they split the county along the Trinity River. Northeast would have at least 8 Dallas seats, 2 Garland seats, 1 or 2 Mesquite seats, a Richardson seat, perhaps a Carrolton seat. Southwest would have 4 Dallas seats, 2 Irving seats, 1 Grand Prairie seat, one seat combining two names from smaller Southern suburbs. ARLINGTON 1-4 (city: 332/404K) FORT WORTH 1-6 (city: 501/639K) NORTH EAST TARRANT 1-4 Yeah well, those are the Tarrant County CCDs. NE has 403K. Possible name components in NE include Bedford, Euless, North Richland Hills, Grapevine, Haltom City, Hurst. ENNIS & WAXAHACHIE Ellis county. 111K BURLESON - ALVARADO Part of Johnson County: Alvarado, Burleson - Joshua, Grandview CCDs, Keene area of Cleburne CCD. 82K plus Keene area (>5K, both because of size of next seat and because that's the population of the town of Keene) CLEBURNE & STEPHENVILLE remainder of Cleburne CCD, Godley CCD, Hood, Somervell and Erath counties. 125K - at least 5K (see above) WEATHERFORD Parker. 88K GATESVILLE & (? I thought of LOAN MOUNTAIN) Bosque, Coryell, Hamilton, Comanche. 114K BROWNWOOD & LAMPASAS Brown, Mills, Lampasas, Burnet. 95K WACO Area included in both the city (129K) and the CCD (164K). 112K HEWITT & CRAWFORD Remainder of McLennan county. 102K KILLEEN Killeen CCD. 112K TEMPLE Temple, East Bell, North West Bell, Fort Hood CCDs. 90K BELTON & TAYLOR Belton, Rogers, South Bell, South West Bell CCDs; Florence, Granger, Jarrell, Taylor CCDs. 83K GEORGETOWN & ROUND ROCK EAST Part of Georgetown - Round Rock CCD (150K) CEDAR PARK & ROUND ROCK WEST Liberty Hill - Cedar Park CCD (53K), remainder of Georgetown - Round Rock CCD. AUSTIN NORTH WEST & LAKEWAY North West Travis and South West Travis CCDs. 99K (of which 47K are inside Austin city) 7 more AUSTIN seats Austin CCD (668K, of which 593K inside city), North East Travis CCD (46K) SAN MARCOS Hays. 98K NEW BRAUNFELS Comal, Kendall. 102K SEGUIN Guadalupe. 89K 14 BEXAR / SAN ANTONIO seats. San Antonio city has 1,144 mio. San Antonio CCD has 1,341 mio. Bexar SE and W CCDs have just 52K together. KERRVILLE & HONDO (I actually thought of calling it HILL COUNTRY, but that's a wider area I think) Kerr, Bandera, Medina. 101K EAGLE PASS Maverick, Dimmit, Zavala, Kinney, Uvalde. 98K FREDERICKSBURG & SAN SABA RIVER Concho, McCulloch, San Saba, Mason, Llano, Menard, Kimble, Schleicher, Sutton, Gillespie, Blanco, Edwards, Real. 86K SAN ANGELO Tom Green. 104K ABILENE Abilene CCD. 115K COLEMAN & SWEETWATER Remainder of Taylor; Mitchell, Nolan, Callahan, Coke, Runnels, Coleman, Eastland. 93K VERNON, BRECKINRIDGE & SNYDER (or geographical term) Scurry, Kent, Stonewall, Haskell, Fisher, Jones, Shackelford, Throckmorton, Stephens, Hardeman, Foard, Knox, Wilbarger, Baylor. 95K UPPER CANADIAN (for want of better name, suggestions?) First two tiers of Panhandle; Oldham, Deaf Smith. 101K AMARILLO NORTH Potter. 114K AMARILLO SOUTH Randall. 104K PAMPA & PRAIRIE DOG TOWN FORK (for want of better name, suggestions?) Carson, Gray, Wheeler, Armstrong, Donley, Collingsworth; entire fifth tier of Panhandle; Bailey, Motley, Cottle, Dickens, King. 97K LUBBOCK WEST LUBBOCK EAST Lubbock CCD. 223K together PLAINVIEW Remainder of Lubbock county; Lamb, Hale, Floyd. 80K LLANO ESTACADO SOUTH (is this even remotely correct? suggestions welcome) Cochran, Hockley, Crosby, Yoakum, Terry, Lynn, Garza, Borden, Dawson, Gaines. 96K MIDLAND Midland county. 116K ODESSA Odessa CCD. 101K PERMIAN BASIN (does the term extend this far?) Remainder of Ector; Winkler, Loving, Ward, Crane, Upton, Glasscock, Reagan, Sterling, Howard, Martin, Andrews. 102K DEL RIO & TRANS PECOS Val Verde, Crockett, Irion, and all counties entirely west of the Pecos except El Paso. 106K SOCORRO El Paso East CCD. 104K EL PASO NORTH EAST & FORT BLISS Part of El Paso CCD (519K), El Paso NW and North Central CCDs (56K) 5 more EL PASO seats, cardinal points or neighborhoods. Remainder. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 11:03:04 AM I've just noticed a serious error with this...plus another minor oversight. I'll post it anyways, for now, and get back to you.
LOUISIANA 4,469 mio. 45 seats For some reasons, Louisiana's parishes are subdivided into numbered (or sometimes lettered) Districts. These presumably were of roughly equal size two or three decades ago, and are still in most cases roughly equal-ish now. Anyways, I've used them as CCD's, except in Jefferson Parish where they got really ugly - but places worked very well. A number of parishes entitled to seats of their own (you'll get to those). Rapides and Ouachita entitled to a seat plus part of one, combined with other parishes. Washington Parish cought between a rock (two of them actually - Tangipahoa and St Tammany Parishes) and a hard place (the State of Mississippi). Shares a district with part of St Tammany now. SHREVEPORT NORTH Caddo districts 3, 4, 5, 7. 82K SHREVEPORT SOUTH Districts 6, 8, 9, 10. 85K SHREVEPORT WEST & CADDO LAKE Districts 1, 2, 11, 12. 85K BOSSIER Bossier. 98K NATCHITOCHES De Soto, Red River, Sabine, Natchitoches. 97K MINDEN & RUSTON Webster, Claiborne, Lincoln. 101K MONROE Ouachita districts C, D, E, F. 91K BASTROP & WEST MONROE Districts A, B; Morehouse, Union parishes. 110K WINNFIELD (only town of any note at all in this vast rural district, and in the center. They'd have picked that name in 1970's England. Nowadays? I'm not so sure) Bienville, Jackson, Kramer, Winn, Grant, LaSalle, Catahoula. 103K TENSAS RIVER Richland, East Carroll, West Carroll, Madison, Franklin, Tensas, Concordia. 104K ALEXANDRIA & LEESVILLE Vernon Parish; Rapides districts D, E, F, G, I. 119K MARKSVILLE & PINEVILLE Avoyelles Parish; Rapides districts A, B, C, H. 102K. A, B, C is part of parish northeast of Red River. H is a vast rural district in the southern part. VILLE PLATTE & DE RIDDER Evangeline, Allen, Beauregard. 93K LAKE CHARLES (or CALCASIEU) WEST Calcasieu districts 1, 3, 5, 11-15. 17K of city's population. Outside the city, Calcasieu River is constituency boundary. 95K LAKE CHARLES (or CALCASIEU) EAST Districts 2, 4, 6-10. 89K (of which 54K inside city) ABBEVILLE & JENNINGS Vermilion, Jefferson Davis, Cameron. 95K LAFAYETTE NORTH WEST Districts A, B, E. 88K (including 40K of city) LAFAYETTE SOUTH EAST Districts C, D, F, G. 103K (including 70K of city) OPELOUSAS Saint Landry. 88K NEW IBERIA Iberia, Saint Martin. 123K MORGAN CITY Saint Mary, Assumption. 77K This was the minor oversight: The separate Southern part of St Martin has to go into Morgan City. I didn't check whether it has the required population, though, or whether I have to eat into Iberia parish as well. I have checked now and it's only about 1,600 people there (not yet included in pop. totals) PLAQUEMINES & DONALDSONVILLE Iberville, Ascension. 110K LAC DES ALLEMANDS Saint Charles, Saint James, Saint John the Baptist. 113K HOUMA Terrebonne. 105K BAYOU LAFOURCHE Lafourche. 90K MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI Plaquemines, Saint Bernard. 94K NEW ORLEANS 1-5 Yeah, well, five seats. No districts offered here. I hope one can be called Algiers. GRETNA Gretna, Harvey, Timberland, Terrytown, Woodrose cities and CDPs. Hope I can still read my screed. 88K plus some unincorporated areas (16K across Jefferson parish, almost all of it here and in the next district) MARRERO & JEAN LAFFITTE Remaining cities and CDPs south of the Mississippi. 109K minus some unassigned areas. KENNER Kenner, River Ridge. 86K METAIRIE NORTH METAIRIE SOUTH & HARAHAN Metairie (146K), Jefferson, Elmwood, Harahan (26K) in South district. 172K together (plus a sliver of unassigned land) NEW ROADS & FELICIANA West Baton Rouge, Pointe Coupee, West Feliciana, East Feliciana, Saint Helena. 92K BATON ROUGE NORTH & BAKER East Baton Rouge districts 1, 2, and 4. 100K (20K of Baton Rouge city) BATON ROUGE CENTRAL (more properly North Central, but that's a wee bit confusing) Districts 5, 6, 7. Industrial Complex unorganized territory. 97K (84 inside city) BATON ROUGE SOUTH WEST Districts 3, 10, 12. 103K (70K inside city) BATON ROUGE SOUTH EAST Districts 8, 9, 11. 112K (53K inside city) LIVINGSTON Livingston Parish. 92K TANGIPAHOA Tangipahoa. 101K SLIDELL St Tammany districts 1, 6-9, 11-14. 117K MANDEVILLE & BOGALUSA Districts 2-5, 10; Washington parish. 118K And the major error is...I forgot a parish. A biggish one. Acadia. With 59K inhabitants. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 03, 2005, 11:27:09 AM I've just noticed a serious error with this...plus another minor oversight. I'll post it anyways, for now, and get back to you. Quote VILLE PLATTE & DE RIDDER read:Evangeline, Allen, Beauregard. 93K LAKE CHARLES (or CALCASIEU) WEST Calcasieu districts 1, 3, 5, 11-15. 17K of city's population. Outside the city, Calcasieu River is constituency boundary. 95K LAKE CHARLES (or CALCASIEU) EAST Districts 2, 4, 6-10. 89K (of which 54K inside city) CROWLEY & VILLE PLATTE Evangeline, Allen, Acadia. 119K SULPHUR & DE RIDDER Calcasieu districts 1, 11-15; Beauregard parish. 104K LAKE CHARLES Calcasieu districts 2-10. 113K. Includes all of Lake Charles. Except for small area just outside the city, Calcasieu River is the boundary. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 03, 2005, 04:37:26 PM For decades Chicago has been divided into community areas that now coincide with groups of census tracts that have summary data collected for them. In terms of census data they area at an equivalent level to townships. The Chicago Community Area Data can be found at the City of Chicago's Department of Planning and Development.
The url for the page with the map is map page (http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0286227019.1115155072@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfaddeidjiigkcefecelldffhdfgn.0&contentOID=536896854&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Planning+And+Development%2F+North%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Planning+And+Development&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886114) The population data can be looked up on this page: pop page (http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalDeptCategoryAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0286227019.1115155072@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfaddeidjiigkcefecelldffhdfgn.0&deptCategoryOID=-536889699&contentType=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&entityName=Planning+And+Development&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886126) If you want my suggestions on the division into 100 K units I'll be happy to oblige. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 04, 2005, 02:38:03 AM Thanks. Very nice.
When I get to Chicago I'll come back to you. Or maybe I'll just make a map and ask you for corrections. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 04, 2005, 05:07:08 AM ARK & SAW
2,673 mio. 27 seats Benton 153K, 1+1 Washington 157K, 1+1. These two paired for 3. Craighead 82K, 1 Faulkner 86K, 1 Garland 88K, 1 Jefferson 84K, 1 Pulaski 361K, 4 Saline 84K, 1 Sebastian 115K, 1 Remainder of the state 1,463 mio but only 14 seats left. ROGERS & BENTONVILLE The following Benton county townships: Esculapia, Osage, Mount Vernon, Brightwater, Sugar Creek, Garfield, Walnut, War Eagle, Roller Ridge, Dickson, Garland, Wallace, Sulphur Springs. 107K SPRINGDALE Remainder of Benton county; the following Washington county townships: Springdale, Elm Springs, Tontitown, Johnson, Harmon, Brush Creek. 102K FAYETTEVILLE Remainder of Washington county. 101K CLARKSVILLE & WHITE ROCK Crawford, Franklin, Johnson. 94K FORT SMITH Sebastian. 115K HARRISON & BUFFALO RIVER Madison, Carroll, Newton, Boone, Searcy, Marion. 106K RUSSELLVILLE & MORRILTON Pope, Van Buren, Conway, Perry. 100K CONWAY Faulkner. 86K MOUNTAIN HOME & HEBER SPRINGS Baxter, Fulton, Izard, Stone, Cleburne. 98K SEARCY & BATESVILLE White, Independence. 101K PARAGOULD & POCAHONTAS Clay, Green, Randolph, Lawrence, Sharp JONESBORO Craighead. 82K BLYTHEVILLE & NEWPORT Mississippi, Poinsett, Jackson. 96K WEST MEMPHIS & FORREST CITY Crittenden, Cross, Saint Francis, Lee. 113K STUTTGART Lonoke, Prairie, Monroe, Arkansas, Woodruff. 103K HELENA & MONTICELLO Phillips, Desha, Chicot, Lincoln, Drew, Ashley. 112K PINE BLUFF Jefferson. 84K LITTLE ROCK EAST LITTLE ROCK WEST Cities of Little Rock and Cammack Village, College Station CDP, that part of Alexander town that is inside Pulaski county (ie, Little Rock and areas enclosed by it). 185K NORTH LITTLE ROCK & MAUMELLE cities of North Little Rock and Maumelle, unincorporated areas to the west of the county on both sides of the Arkansas river. 71K + unincorporated areas. Might have to include part of Greenwood city as well. JACKSONVILLE & TOLTEC MOUNDS Remaining cities, towns, and CDPs, unincorporated areas to the east of the county on both sides of the river. 70K + unincorporated areas (looks like most inhabited unincorporated areas are here) SALINE Saline. 84K HOT SPRINGS Garland. 88K MENA & MAGAZINE MOUNTAIN Logan, Yell, Scott, Montgomery, Polk, Howard, Sevier. 113K ARKADELPHIA Cleveland, Grant, Dallas, Hot Spring, Clark, Pike, Nevada. 109K TEXARKANA (AR) & HOPE Little River, Miller, Lafayxette, Columbia, Hempstead EL DORADO & CAMDEN Union, Bradley, Calhoun, Ouachita. 94K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 04, 2005, 05:59:23 AM ATHENS & TENNESSEE COLONY Henderson county; Cayuga, Montalba - Tennessee Colony, and Frankston CCDs of Anderson county. 96K Quote BRENHAM (a second name component would do good) Bellville, Hempstead.Austin, Waller, Washington. 87K Quote BEAUMONT SOUTH & TEXAS POINT I had never heard of Texas Point. If the area were to be included in the name,Remainder of both CCDs, remainder of Jefferson county (22K) it would be Sabine Pass. Couldn't this be in the Port Arthur seat? There is nothing to the SW of Port Arthur. Quote ROSENBERG & CINCO RANCH (or FORT BEND. What's the county named for anyway?) I would include both Richmond and Rosenberg in the name, and skip Cinco Ranch.It was a Fort at at a bend in the Brazos River. I think it is the big loop north of Richmond. Fort Bend (http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/FF/uef1.html) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 04, 2005, 06:24:20 AM WHARTON & YOAKUM (bad name) Wharton, Colorado, Lavaca. 80K Quote BASTROP, FAYETTE & LEE (Oh Lord, send me some Name!) Bastrop, La Grange, & Giddings.Bastrop, Fayette, Lee. 96K La Grange is the site of the the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. Quote PHARR Pharr-San Juan-Alamo?Quote ELSA & SULLIVAN CITY Elsa-EdcouchQuote BROWNSVILLE NORTH & SAN BENITO (or & MOUTH OF RIO GRANDE or something like that if San Benito city is in Harlingen constituency or split)Quote South Padre IslandQuote HEWITT & BELLMEAD CrawfordRemainder of McLennan county. 102K Quote LIBERTY HILL & ROUND ROCK WEST Cedar ParkTitle: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 04, 2005, 06:35:31 AM BEAUMONT SOUTH & TEXAS POINT Remainder of both CCDs, remainder of Jefferson county (22K) it would be Sabine Pass. Couldn't this be in the Port Arthur seat? There is nothing to the SW of Port Arthur. Oh, yes, and obviously the rural Beaumont areas could just as well be in the Port Arthur seat, or split between the Beaumont South and the Port Arthur seat. Depends on where you split the East Jefferson CCD. I'll look over the other name suggestions, probably incorporate all of them. What about Brazos County? And what about the Panhandle seats? Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 04, 2005, 06:42:00 AM Pharr-San Juan-Alamo? Quote Quote ELSA & SULLIVAN CITY Elsa-EdcouchQuote Quote HEWITT & BELLMEAD CrawfordRemainder of McLennan county. 102K Quote Quote LIBERTY HILL & ROUND ROCK WEST Cedar ParkTitle: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 04, 2005, 09:47:20 PM BEAUMONT SOUTH & TEXAS POINT Remainder of both CCDs, remainder of Jefferson county (22K) it would be Sabine Pass. Couldn't this be in the Port Arthur seat? There is nothing to the SW of Port Arthur. How about Spindletop? Quote What about Brazos County? And what about the Panhandle seats? What about Brazos County?I'd drop Cameron, so one seat should have Bryan and the other College Station. Or you could include Texas A&M in the name (that is the college that the station is named for). If you do that, you probably should name one of the Austin seats after UT. (Both schools are pretty close to 50,000). If I were dividing the Panhandle and South Plains, I'd probably divide them NS rather than EW, separating the areas above and below the Caprock. The area above the Caprock is over the Ogallala Aquifer and crops are grown. The area below is ranch land. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 04, 2005, 09:55:21 PM Pharr-San Juan-Alamo? Quote Quote Quote ELSA & SULLIVAN CITY Elsa-EdcouchQuote Quote Quote HEWITT & BELLMEAD CrawfordRemainder of McLennan county. 102K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 05, 2005, 06:04:17 AM I'd drop Cameron, so one seat should have Bryan and the other College Station. Quote Or you could include Difference being that it's not necessary in this case as you'll find College Station on the map, but it may be necessary in Austin (in which case I wouldn't call it "UT" though. "Austin UT" or, since that's a bit ugly as a name, "Austin University" - which sounds confusing seen like that, bt probably doesn't when there's several "Austin Generic Neighborhood" constituencies.)Texas A&M in the name (that is the college that the station is named for). If you do that, you probably should name one of the Austin seats after UT. (Both schools are pretty close to 50,000). Quote If I were dividing the Panhandle and South Plains, I'd probably divide them NS rather than EW, separating the What's the Caprock? Could you just do it maybe? That'd be nice.areas above and below the Caprock. The area above the Caprock is over the Ogallala Aquifer and crops are grown. The area below is ranch land. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 05, 2005, 12:43:15 PM Mississippi
(done on the quick) 2,843 mio 28 seats DeSoto - 107K, 1 Harrison - 190K, 2 Hinds - 251K, 3 Jackson - 131K, 1+1 Rankin - 115K, 1 PICAYUNE - PEARL RIVER Hancock, Pearl River. 92K GULFPORT Harrison County's Districts 3 and 4 (MS has the same thing as LA), and part of Gulfport in 2, 103K BILOXI Remainder. 87K PASCAGOULA Jackson County's Districts 2 to 5. 106K CHICKASAWHAY RIVER District 1; George, Stone, Perry, Greene, Wayne. 104K HATTIESBURG Forrest, Lamar. 112K NATCHEZ Claiborne, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, Wilkinson, Amite. 88K CRYSTAL SPRINGS, BROOKHAVEN & McCOMB Copiah, Lincoln, Pike. 100K COLUMBIA & (add second name here, MENDENHALL?) Marion, Walthall, Lawrence, Jefferson Davis, Simpson. 115K LAUREL Covington, Jones, Smith. 100K FOREST & PHILADELPHIA Scott, Jasper, Newton, Neshoba, Winston. 117K MERIDIAN Clarke, Lauderdale, Kemper. 106K RANKIN Rankin. 115K JACKSON NORTH Hinds District 1, part of 2 inside city. 87K JACKSON SOUTH District 3, part of 5 inside city. 80K JACKSON SOUTH WEST & CLINTON District 4, remainder of 2 and 5. 84K CANTON & MADISON Madison, Leake. 96K VICKSBURG & YAZOO CITY Warren, Issaquena, Yazoo, Humphreys, Sharkey GREENVILLE & BOLIVAR Washington, Bolivar. 104K GREENWOOD & INDIANOLA Sunflower, Leflore, Carroll, Holmes. 104K CLARKSDALE Coahoma, Tunica, Quitman, Tallahatchie, Panola. 99K DE SOTO De Soto. 107K OXFORD & HOLLY SPRINGS Tate, Marshall, Lafayette. 99K CORINTH & RIPLEY Benton, Tippah, Alcorn, Tishomingo, Prentiss. 109K TUPELO Lee, Itawamba. 99K NEW ALBANY & (feature from Southern part of district) Union, Pontotoc, Calhoun, Chickasaw, Yalobusha. 99K STARKVILLE & GRENADA Oktibbeha, Clay, Choctaw, Webster, Montgomery, Grenada. 119K. I should check maybe whether I can divide these two North-South rather than East-West. COLUMBUS Lowndes, Monroe, Noxubee. 113K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: jimrtex on May 05, 2005, 03:05:34 PM What's the Caprock? Could you just do it maybe? That'd be nice. Llano Estacado (http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/LL/ryl2.html) It's pretty interesting from on top since it can be sensed but not seen. Because the Llano is so flat, the horizons fade away in ground haze. But when you are 10 or so miles from the Caprock it looks clearer because the ground drops away. Another memorable moment was driving down off the Caprock into Post on a Friday afternoon (real football is played on Friday night). Outside of town a car caravan was forming, with the cars streamered in the school colors. I kept thinking of the valley people getting reading to attack the mountain people. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 06, 2005, 12:25:30 PM New Mexico. 1,819 Mio inhabitants. 18 seats. Theoretical entitlements: Bernalillo 557K - 6 seats. I ended up pairing this with Valencia (66K) however. Dona Ana - 175K - 2 seats. Sandoval - 90K. 1 seat. San Juan - 114K. 1 seat. Santa Fe - 129K. 1 seat & part of one. Left me with 756K (or 690K after Valencia) for 6 seats and a (large) part of one. I'm not comfy with a few of the pairings below, and if someone (yes, looking at you) can produce a better outline you're totally welcome to post it. SHIPROCK & FARMINGTON San Juan County. 114K. GALLUP & ZUNI McKinley & Cibola counties. 101K. SANDOVAL Sandoval County. 90K SANTA FE Santa Fe and Santa Fe South CCDs of Santa Fe County. 112K. TAOS & LOS ALAMOS Santa Fe North CCD; Los Alamos, Rio Arriba, and Taos counties. 106K LAS VEGAS & TUCUMCARI Colfax, Mora, San Miguel, Harding, Union, Quay, Guadalupe, Torrance, and DeBaca counties. 88K. CLOVIS & HOBBS Curry, Roosevelt, Lea counties. 119K ROSWELL & CARLSBAD Chaves, Eddy. 113K. ALAMOGORDO & SOCORRO Otero, Lincoln, and Socorro counties. 99K. LAS CRUCES Las Cruces CCD of Dona Ana County. 87K. DONA ANA Remainder of Dona Ana County. 88K. SILVER CITY Sierra, Catron, Grant, Luna, Hidalgo counties. 84K. VALENCIA & ISLETA Valencia County; Isleta Pueblo, Bernalillo East, Bernalillo West CCDs of Bernalillo County. 88K. ALBUQUERQUE 1-5 (cardinal points) Albuquerque CCD. 535K. () () Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 06, 2005, 12:47:09 PM Cool. :D
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 06, 2005, 01:04:59 PM Thanks. ^_^ I had some idle moments at work so I took care of this, using my unfair advantages of a decent connection, lots o' storage space, and good Arc programs (although it is possible for anyone to do this with free software such as ArcExplorer). I have no idea how I'm going to divvy up Albuquerque's 5 seats, since the precinct lines don't necessarily follow the boundary between Bernalillo West CCD and Albuquerque CCD (don't get me started on the precinct boundaries...).
And to Muon2: please, condense those links - they're stretching the screen. Easiest way is to do it like this: {[}url=http://{whatever the link is}]{text in place of the link such as Neighborhoods}{[}/url{]} And remove the {}. :) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 06, 2005, 03:59:36 PM Thanks. ^_^ I had some idle moments at work so I took care of this, using my unfair advantages of a decent connection, lots o' storage space, and good Arc programs (although it is possible for anyone to do this with free software such as ArcExplorer). I have no idea how I'm going to divvy up Albuquerque's 5 seats, since the precinct lines don't necessarily follow the boundary between Bernalillo West CCD and Albuquerque CCD (don't get me started on the precinct boundaries...). And to Muon2: please, condense those links - they're stretching the screen. Easiest way is to do it like this: {[}url=http://{whatever the link is}]{text in place of the link such as Neighborhoods}{[}/url{]} And remove the {}. :) I thought that URLs couldn't be embedded if they contained an = character. :P That used to be true on the site, but if it's changed let me know and I'll make the necessary corrections. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 06, 2005, 04:02:47 PM Thanks. ^_^ I had some idle moments at work so I took care of this, using my unfair advantages of a decent connection, lots o' storage space, and good Arc programs (although it is possible for anyone to do this with free software such as ArcExplorer). I have no idea how I'm going to divvy up Albuquerque's 5 seats, since the precinct lines don't necessarily follow the boundary between Bernalillo West CCD and Albuquerque CCD (don't get me started on the precinct boundaries...). And to Muon2: please, condense those links - they're stretching the screen. Easiest way is to do it like this: {[}url=http://{whatever the link is}]{text in place of the link such as Neighborhoods}{[}/url{]} And remove the {}. :) I thought that URLs couldn't be embedded if they contained an = character. :P That used to be true on the site, but if it's changed let me know and I'll make the necessary corrections. It's worked pretty well for me having the url= the link - in fact, I think the code requires the = to be there for this to work. :) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 06, 2005, 04:13:57 PM Thanks. ^_^ I had some idle moments at work so I took care of this, using my unfair advantages of a decent connection, lots o' storage space, and good Arc programs (although it is possible for anyone to do this with free software such as ArcExplorer). I have no idea how I'm going to divvy up Albuquerque's 5 seats, since the precinct lines don't necessarily follow the boundary between Bernalillo West CCD and Albuquerque CCD (don't get me started on the precinct boundaries...). And to Muon2: please, condense those links - they're stretching the screen. Easiest way is to do it like this: {[}url=http://{whatever the link is}]{text in place of the link such as Neighborhoods}{[}/url{]} And remove the {}. :) I thought that URLs couldn't be embedded if they contained an = character. :P That used to be true on the site, but if it's changed let me know and I'll make the necessary corrections. It's worked pretty well for me having the url= the link - in fact, I think the code requires the = to be there for this to work. :) I've fixed it now. One of the upgrades must have fixed this from a year ago. The problem was not with the url=, but with an url that have an = within it. In any case, it's no longer a problem. :D Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: WMS on May 06, 2005, 05:02:02 PM Thanks. ^_^ I had some idle moments at work so I took care of this, using my unfair advantages of a decent connection, lots o' storage space, and good Arc programs (although it is possible for anyone to do this with free software such as ArcExplorer). I have no idea how I'm going to divvy up Albuquerque's 5 seats, since the precinct lines don't necessarily follow the boundary between Bernalillo West CCD and Albuquerque CCD (don't get me started on the precinct boundaries...). And to Muon2: please, condense those links - they're stretching the screen. Easiest way is to do it like this: {[}url=http://{whatever the link is}]{text in place of the link such as Neighborhoods}{[}/url{]} And remove the {}. :) I thought that URLs couldn't be embedded if they contained an = character. :P That used to be true on the site, but if it's changed let me know and I'll make the necessary corrections. It's worked pretty well for me having the url= the link - in fact, I think the code requires the = to be there for this to work. :) I've fixed it now. One of the upgrades must have fixed this from a year ago. The problem was not with the url=, but with an url that have an = within it. In any case, it's no longer a problem. :D Excellent. 8) And thanks! Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 16, 2005, 01:17:40 PM I`ve done Alabama, but I'm not done naming yet.
I'll post it tomorrow. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 17, 2005, 02:57:48 AM BAMA
4,447 mio inhabitants. 44 seats MOBILE CENTRAL MOBILE SOUTH & BAYOU LA BATRE MOBILE WEST & BIG CREEK LAKE PRICHARD & SEMMES Mobile County. 399K. Central is entirely in Mobile CCD (250K). Others combine parts of Mobile CCD with, respectively, Theodore, Bayou La Batre, and Grand Bay CCDs (57K), Tanner Williams CCD (59K), and Mount Vernon, Semmes, and Citronelle CCDs (32K). This is because the Tanner Williams CCD extends west to the state line (where the small town of Tanner Williams is) but has most of its population right on the outskirts of the Mobile Agglomeration - inside city limits, in fact. A district entirely outside Mobile CCD would have had to include Tanner Williams. DAPHNE & PERDIDO BAY Daphne, Fairhope, Foley, Elberta, Summerdale and Robertsdale CCDs of Baldwin county. 114K BAY MINETTE, BREWTON & MONROEVILLE Bay Minette and Stockton CCDs of Baldwin County; Escambia, Conecuh, and Monroe counties. 102K LOWER TOMBIGBEE Washington, Choctaw, Sumter, Clarke, Marengo counties. 100K ANDALUSIA & ENTERPRISE Covington, Coffee, Geneva. 107K DOTHAN Houston county. 89K EUFAULA & FORT RUCKER Dale, Henry, Barbour. 94K GREENVILLE & TROY Butler, Crenshaw, Pike, Wilcox, Lowndes. 91K MONTGOMERY NORTH MONTGOMERY SOUTH Montgomery County. 223K. CCDs apart from Montgomery (195K) all in South constituency. AUTAUGA - ELMORE Autauga, Elmore. 110K TUSKEGEE & PHENIX CITY Russell, Macon, Bullock. 86K AUBURN - OPELIKA Lee. 115K SELMA & (?) Dallas, Perry, Bibb, Hale, Greene. 106K. Let Us Now Praise Famous Men country, btw. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 17, 2005, 03:11:46 AM Part 2
JEFFERSON County has 662K and 7 seats. Birmingham CCD has 490K and would be entitled to 5 seats, the rest is in a large no. of small CCDs. Problem is that Hoover and Greenwood CCDs are divided from the remainder by a southern extension of Birmingham CCD. HOOVER Hoover, Greenwood, North Johns, Concor - Hopkins, Maytown - Silver Springs, West Jefferson, Graysville - Adamsville CCDs (82K) plus small part of Birmingham CCD. TRUSSVILLE & GARDENDALE Remaining CCDs. 89K 5 BIRMINGHAM CCD seats, of which three or four will likely be named Birmingham. ALABASTER - MONTEVALLO Alabaster - Helena and Montevallo CCDs of Shelby County. 96K CLANTON & COLUMBIANA Remainder of Shelby County; Chilton, Coosa counties. 99K ROANOKE, LANETT & ALEXANDER CITY Tallapoosa, Chambers, Randolph. 100K TALLADEGA & CHEAHA MOUNTAIN Talladega, Clay, Cleburne. 108K ANNISTON Calhoun. 112K SAINT CLAIR - BLOUNT Saint Clair, Blount. 116K GADSDEN Etowah. 103K FORT PAYNE & WEISS LAKE DeKalb, Cherokee counties; Section, Pisgah, Long Island CCDs of Jackson County (ie, part on the left bank of the Tennessee River). 104K GUNTERSVILLE & SCOTTSBORO Marshall County; remainder of Jackson County. 118K. Marshall County entitled to a seat of its own, actually. Jackson County split required by geography. HUNTSVILLE CENTRAL HUNTSVILLE WEST & MADISON HUNTSVILLE EAST & HAZEL GROVE Madison county. 277K. Central entirely in Huntsville CCD (188K). W includes parts of Huntsville plus Arsenal, Madison, and Triana-Blackwell CCDs (35K) to the SW. E includes part of Huntsville plus remaining CCDs (54K) to the North and East. DECATUR Morgan. 111K ATHENS & MOULTON Limestone, Lawrence. 101K FLORENCE Lauderdale. 88K CULLMAN ( & DOUBLE SPRINGS) Cullman, Winston. 102K TUSCUMBIA & RUSSELLVILLE Colbert, Franklin, Marion. 117K JASPER & (?) Walker, Fayette, Lamar. 105K TUSCALOOSA Tuscaloosa CCD of Tuscaloosa County. 101K NORTHPORT & CARROLLTON Remainder of Tuscaloosa County; Pickens County. 85K. Tuscaloosa County (165K) actually entitled to two whole seats. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 17, 2005, 07:25:48 AM TENNESSEE
5,689 mio, 57 seats Eight MEMPHIS CCD districts, likely named Memphis+neighborhood or suburb (Bartlett and Germantown come to mind). 807K COLLIERVILLE & MILLINGTON Remainder of Shelby county. 90K BOLIVAR & (?) Fayette, Hardeman, Chester, McNairy. 98K COVINGTON & BROWNSVILLE Tipton, Lauderdale, Haywood. 98K DYERSBURG & UNION CITY Lake, Dyer, Obio, Weakley. 112K JACKSON Madison. 92K HUMBOLDT & McKENZIE Gibson, Crockett, Carroll. 92K LAND BETWEEN THE LAKES SOUTH (until I can think of a better name) Henry, Benton, Stewart, Houston, Humphreys. 86K SAVANNAH & (?) Decatur, Perry, Hardin, Wayne, Lewis, Hickman. 96K LAWRENCEBURG & FAYETTEVILLE Lawrence, Giles, Lincoln. 100K CLARKSVILLE Clarksville and Saint Bethlehem CCDs of Montgomery County. 109K DICKSON & FORT CAMPBELL remainder of Montgomery County; Dickson, Cheatham counties. 105K six DAVIDSON county constituencies. 570K (no CCDs) FRANKLIN & BRENTWOOD Franklin, Brentwood, and Nolensville CCDs of Williamson county. 101K COLUMBIA Remainder of Williamson county; Maury. 95K LEWISBURG, SHELBYVILLE & MANCHESTER Marshall, Bedford, Coffee. 113K MURFREESBORO Murfreesboro CCD of Rutherford county. 91K SMYRNA (or RUTHERFORD) Remainder of Rutherford county. 91K. Surrounds Murfreesboro entirely. WINCHESTER & SOUTH CUMBERLAND PLATEAU Moore, Franklin, Marion, Grundy, Sequatchie. 98K HENDERSONVILLE & GALLATIN Hendersonville, Gallatin CCDs of Sumner county. 88K PORTLAND & SPRINGFIELD Remainder of Sumner county, Robertson county. 96K LEBANON Wilson county. 89K UPPER CUMBERLAND Macon, Trousdale, Smith, Jackson, Clay, Pickett, Overton, Fentress. 106K COOKEVILLE Putnam, White, DeKalb. 102K McMINNVILLE & DAYTON Cannon, Warren, Van Buren, Bledsoe, Rhea. 97K CROSSVILLE & BIG SOUTH FORK Cumberland, Morgan, Scott. 88K CHATTANOOGA SOUTH (or SOUTH WEST) part of Chattanooga CCD (202K), East Ridge and Lookout Mountain CCDs (25K) CHATTANOOGA EAST & OOLTEWAH Part of Chattanooga CCD, Ooltewah CCD (14K) CHATTANOOGA NORTH & MIDDLE VALLEY Part of Chattanooga CCD, remaining CCDs of Hamilton County (66K). 308K together. CLEVELAND Bradley, Polk. 104K ATHENS & SWEETWATER Meigs, McMinn, Monroe. 99K ROANE & LOUDON Roane, Loudon. 91K MARYVILLE Blount. 106K three KNOXVILLE constituencies incl. KNOXVILLE WEST & FARRAGUT Knoxville (275K) and Concord (25K) CCDs. 300K together. POWELL Remainder of Knox county; Union county. 100K OAK RIDGE & LA FOLLETTE Anderson, Campbell. 111K SEVIERVILLE & NEWPORT Sevier, Cocke. 105K JEFFERSON CITY & MORRISTOWn Jefferson, Hamblen. 102K CLINCH MOUNTAIN (SOUTH) Claiborne, Grainger, Hancock, Hawkins. 112K JOHNSON CITY Washington. 107K KIGNSPORT Kingsport and Blountville CCDs of Sullivan county. 101K GREENEVILLE & ERWIN Greene, Unicoi counties; Tiger Valley, Roan Mountain, Level Fork CCDs of Carter county. 93K BRISTOL & ELIZABETHTON Johnson county; Elizabethton, Stony Creek, and Biltmore CCDs of Carter county; Bristol, Bluff City - Piney Flats, and Holston Valley CCDs of Sullivan county. 115K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2005, 05:07:53 AM KENTUCKY
4.042 mio inhabitants. 40 seats. PADUCAH Fulton, Hickman, Carlisle, Ballard, McCracken, Livingston. 102K MAYFIELD Graves, Calloway, Marshall. 101K HOPKINSVILLE Trigg, Christian, Lyon, Kramer. 106K HENDERSON Henderson, Union, Crittenden, McLean, Webster. 109K OWENSBORO Daviess. 92K MADISONVILLE & (?) Hopkins, Muhlenberg, Ohio. 102K BOWLING GREEN Warren. 93K ROUGH RIVER LAKE & MAMMOTH CAVE Meade, Breckinridge, Hancock, Grayson, Edmonson. 102K RUSSELLVILLE & MIDDLE CUMBERLAND RIVER Todd, Logan, Simpson, Allen, Monroe, Cumberland, Clinton. 102K ELIZABETHTON Hardin, Larue. 107K GLASGOW & CAMPBELLSVILLE Hart, Barren, Metcalfe, Green, Adair, Taylor. 117K BULLITT & BARDSTOWN Bullitt, Washington, Nelson. 109K LOUISVILLE WEST Louisville C and Louisville W CCDs. 97K LOUISVILLE EAST Louisville E CCD. 93K LOUISVILLE SOUTH Louisville S CCD (76K), part of Jefferson SW CCD. PLEASURE RIDGE PARK Remainder of Jefferson SW CCD (114K). NEWBURG Jefferson C CCD. 105K JEFFERSONTOWN Jefferson SE CCD. 105K LYNDON & (?) Jefferson NE CCD. 98K OLDHAM & SHELBYVILLE Oldham, Shelby, Spencer. 91K FRANKFORT Franklin, Anderson, Woodford, Mercer. 111K SOMERSET & LAKE CUMBERLAND Russell, Pulaski, Wayne, McCreary. 109K DANVILLE, CAMPBELLSVILLE & (place or landmark from SE part) Casey, Boyle, Lincoln, Garrard, Rockcastle, Marion. 116K WILLIAMSBURG & CUMBERLAND GAP Whitley, Knox, Bell. 98K LONDON & UPPER KENTUCKY RIVER Jackson, Laurel, Owsley, Clay, Estill, Lee. 119K RICHMOND & JESSAMINE Madison, Jessamine. 110K LEXINGTON - FAYETTE 1-3. 261K. No CCDs. LOWER KENTUCKY RIVER Trimble, Carroll, Henry, Owen, Gallatin, Scott, Harrison. 104K PARIS & MOUNT STERLING Bourbon, Nicholas, Clark, Bath, Montgomery. 93K BOONE Boone. 86K NEWPORT Campbell. 89K COVINGTON Covington CCD of Kenton county. 116K MAYSVILLE & INDEPENDENCE Independence and Piner - Visalia CCDs of Kenton county; Grant, Pendleton, Bracken, Robertson, Mason counties. 98K GREENUP & MOREHEAD Fleming, Lewis, Rowan, Greenup. 86K ASHLAND Carter, Boyd, Elliott, Lawrence. 100K (looking for name for this strip of coal country) Johnson, Martin, Morgan, Magoffin, Powell, Wolfe, Menifee, Breathitt. 108K PIKEVILLE Pike, Floyd. 111K HAZARD Perry, Letcher, Leslie, Harlan, Knott. 117K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 18, 2005, 05:50:49 AM (looking for name for this strip of coal country) If you fiddle Knott county into it, Perkins would do. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2005, 06:39:04 AM (looking for name for this strip of coal country) If you fiddle Knott county into it, Perkins would do. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2005, 06:42:41 AM Fiddling Knott in would not be a problem, btw.
Change: ASHLAND Carter, Boyd, Elliott, Lawrence. 100K (looking for name for this strip of coal country) Johnson, Martin, Morgan, Magoffin, Powell, Wolfe, Menifee, Breathitt. 108K HAZARD Perry, Letcher, Leslie, Harlan, Knott. 117K ASHLAND Carter, Boyd, Elliott, Larence, Martin. 113K PERKINS Johnson, Morgan, Magoffin, Powell, Wolfe, Menifee, Breathitt, Knott. 113K HAZARD Perry, Letcher, Leslie, Harlan. 99K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2005, 08:14:43 AM MIZZOURI
5.595 mio inhabitants. 56 seats A note on Metro areas: Townships and Cities do not necessarily go alike in Missouri. Kansas City spans across three counties...and that's only counting the one in Missouri. MISSOURI BOOTHEEL New Madrid, Mississippi, Pemiscot, Dunklin, Stoddard. 116K CAPE GIRARDEAU Cape Girardeau, Scott. 109K FARMINGTON & PERRYVILLE Saint Francois, Sainte Genevieve, Perry. 92K ARNOLD Arnold, Imperial, Windsor, Rock townships of Jefferson county. 90K FESTUS & HILLSBORO Remainder of Jefferson county. 104K SAINT LOUIS 1-3 City of Saint Louis. 348K together. Following ten seats make up Saint Louis County: OAKVILLE & MEHLVILLE Oakville, Tesson Ferry, Lemay townships. 109K AFFTON & KIRKWOOD Concord, Gravois, Bonhomme townships. 110K BALLWIN & MANCHESTER Meramec, Queeny townships. 88K CHESTERFIELD Chesterfield, Lafayette townships. 92K WEBSTER GROVES & CLAYTON Hadley, Clayton, Jefferson townships. 105K UNIVERSITY CITY & JENNINGS University, Normandy, Norwood townships. 95K CREVE COEUR & OVERLAND Creve Coeur, Midland, and Missouri River townships. 104K MARYLAND HEIGHTS Maryland Heights, Airport, and Northwest townships. 98K FLORISSANT Florissant, Ferguson, and Lewis and Clark townships. 105K SPANISH LAKE Saint Ferdinand, Halls Ferry, and Spanish Lake townships. 110K The following three seats make up Saint Charles county: SAINT CHARLES & SAINT PETERS EAST Frontier, Blanchette, Lindenwood, Friedens, Zumbehl, Rivers, Spencer Creek townships. 98K O'FALLON EAST & SAINT PETERS WEST Cottleville, Saint Peters, O'Fallon townships. 87K O'FALLON WEST & WENTZVILLE Harvester, Boone, Dardenne, Wentzville townships. 98K UNION & WASHINGTON Franklin. 94K POPLAR BLUFF (& ?) Bollinger, Wayne, Butler, Madison, Ripley, Carter. 98K TAUM SAUK MOUNTAIN Iron, Reynolds, Washington, Crawford, Dent, Shannon, Oregon. 97K. Named after state's highest point. LOWER GASCONADE Gasconade, Orange, Maries, Phelps, Miller. 101K JEFFERSON CITY Cole, Moniteau, Cooper. 103K LAKE OF THE OZARKS & FORT LEONARD WOOD Pulaski, Camden, Morgan. 97K LEBANON & ? (or UPPER GASCONADE) Texas, Laclede, Wright, Webster, Douglas. 118K BRANSON & WEST PLAINS Howell, Ozark, Taney, Stone. 116K SPRINGFIELD NORTH SPRINGFIELD SOUTH Springfield (152K), Campbell, North Campbell, Wilson, Clay townships of Greene county. 195K together. CHRISTIAN & REPUBLIC Remainder of Greene county; Christian county. 99K. As far as the name goes: Just couldn't resist the temptation. :) JOPLIN Jasper. 104K NEOSHO Newton, McDonald, Barry. 109K NEVADA & STOCKTON LAKE Cedar, Dade, Lawrence, Barton, Vernon, Bates. 107K. Would be named Truman in Australia. CLINTON & BOLIVAR Dallas, Polk, Hickory, Saint Clair, Benton, Henry. 101K MARSHALL, SEDALIA & WARRENSBURG Saline, Pettis, Johnson. 111K HARRISONVILLE Cass. 82K The following seven constituencies are in Jackson county: INDEPENDENCE EAST KANSAS CITY (neighborhood) & INDEPENDENCE WEST Blue township. 160K KANSAS CITY (neighborhood names) 2 constituencies, Kaw township. 183K BLUE SPRINGS Fort Osage, Sni-A-Bar, Van Buren townships. 80K KANSAS CITY RAYTOWN Brooking township (81K), part of Washington township (74K) LEE'S SUMMIT Praire township (77K), remainder of Washington township. KANSAS CITY GLADSTONE Gallatin township (68K), part of Chouteau township (41K) of Clay county. KANSAS CITY LIBERTY Remainder of Clay county. 184K together. KANSAS CITY NORTH WEST & LITTLE PLATTE Platte, Clinton. 93K SAINT JOSEPH Buchanan. 86K RICHMOND & CHILLICOTHE Lafayette, Carroll, Ray, Kramer, Livingston, Daviess. 98K. Only district in the state to cross the Missouri, btw. TRENTON & MARYVILLE (or MISSOURI NORTH WEST) Atchison, Nodaway, Holt, Andrew, Worth, Gentry, DeKalb, Harrison, Grundy, Mercer, Sullivan. 100K KIRKSVILLE & HANNIBAL (or MISSOURI NORTH EAST) Putnam, Schuyler, Scotland, Clark, Adair, Knox, Lewis, Marion, Ralls. 98K MACON, MOBERLY & MEXICO Linn, Macon, Shelby, Chariton, Randolph, Monroe, Audrain. 104K COLUMBIA Columbia and Missouri townships, Boone county. 104K FULTON & (?) Remainder of Boone county; Howard, Callaway. 82K CUIVRE RIVER Pike, Lincoln, Warren, Montgomery. 94K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2005, 09:45:10 AM IOWA
2,926 mio inhabitants. 29 seats. Sorry for this one and the last one's zigzagging across the state, btw. BURLINGTON Lee, Des Moines, Henry. 100K MUSCATINE Louisa, Muscatine, Cedar, Washington. 93K DAVENPORT City of Davenport. 98K BETTENDORF & CLINTON Remainder of Scott county; Clinton county. 111K IOWA CITY Johnson. 111K CEDAR RAPIDS SW Fayette, Clinto, Fairfax, College, Putnam townships (7K), part of Cedar Rapid city (121K) of Linn county. Outside the city, boundary follows Cedar river. CEDAR RAPIDS NE Remainder of Linn county. 192K together. OTTUMWA Jefferson, Van Buren, Wapello, Davis, Monroe, Appanoose, Keokuk. 102K NEWTON, GRINNELL & OSKALOOSA Iowa, Poweshiek, Jasper, Mahaska. 94K INDIANOLA Warren, Marion, Lucas, Wayne, Clarke, Decatur. 107K The following four seats are in Linn county: DES MOINES CENTRAL Des Moines township. 101K. The city spans a no. of townships and has a total population of 199K. DES MOINES SOUTH WEST Bloomfield and Walnut townships. 91K. Includes 27K inhabitants of Des Moines, as well as the 43K inhabitants of West Des Moines. DES MOINES EAST Lee, Allen, Camp, Four Mile, Delaware, Clay, Beaver townships. 92K. Includes 62K inhabitants of Des Moines. DES MOINES NORTH & UNIONDALE Remainder of county. 91K. Includes 10K inhabitants of Des Moines. IOWA SOUTH WEST Union, Ringgold, Adams, Taylor, Montgomery, Page, Mills, Fremont, Adair, Cass. 103K COUNCIL BLUFFS Pottawattamie. 88K DENISON & HARLAN (or, IOWA WEST, or WEST CENTRAL) Harrison, Shelby, Audubon, Carroll, Crawford, Monona, Ida, Sac.104K PERRY & BOONE Guthrie, Dallas, Greene, Boone. 88K AMES Story, Hamilton. 96K MARSHALLTOWN & IOWA FALLS Marshall, Grundy, Hardin, Franklin, Butler, Wright. 110K WATERLOO & CEDAR FALLS Waterloo, Cedar Falls cities, Cedar Falls township of Black Hawk county. 105K VINTON & WAVERLY Remainder of Black Hawk county; Buchanan, Tama, Benton, Bremer. 110K DUBUQUE Dubuque. 89K MANCHESTER & MAQUOKETA Jackson, Jones, Delaware, Clayton, Allamakee. 92K DECORAH & CHARLES CITY Winneshiek, Fayette, Howard, Chickasaw, Mitchell, Floyd, Worth. 101K MASON CITY & ESTHERVILLE Cerro Gordo, Hancock, Winnebago, Kossuth, Emmet, Palo Alto, Dickinson. 114K FORT DODGE & STORM LAKE Webster, Humboldt, Calhoun, Pocahontas, Buena Vista, Clay. 107K LE MARS & CHEROKEE Lyon, Sioux, Plymouth, Osceola, O'Brien, Cherokee. 104K SIOUX CITY Woodbury. 104K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 19, 2005, 07:42:58 AM MINNESOTA
4.919 mio. 49 seats Hennepin, 1.116 mio. 11 seats. MINNEAPOLIS 1-4 Minneapolis (cities unless mentioned for Hennepin and Ramsey, Anoka, Washington and Dakota, btw), part of St Anthony in Hennepin county. 389K together. BLOOMINGTON Bloomington. 85K RICHFIELD - EDINA - HOPKINS Fort Snelling unincorporated territory, Richfield, Edina, Hopkins. 98K EDEN PRAIRIE & MINNETONKA Eden Prairie, Minnetonka, Shorewood, Greenwood, Excelsior. 116K SAINT LOUIS PARK & GOLDEN VALLEY Saint Louis Park, Golden Valley, Robbinsdale, Crystal. 101K BROOKLYN PARK Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center, Osseo. 98K PLYMOUTH & (what's the name of that lake?) New Hope, Plymouth, Medicine Lake, Medina, Loretto, Ocono, Long Lake, Minnetonka Beach, Spring Park, Wayzata, Woodland, Deephaven, Tonka Bay. 114K MAPLE GROVE Saint Bonifacius, Minnetrista, Mound, Spring Park, Independence, Maple Plain, Greenfield, Rockford, Corcoran, Hanover, Rogers, Hassan township (the only township in Hennepin county), Maple Grove, Dayton, Champlin. 114K Some of these should actually be "part of xy in Hennepin county", sorry bout that. Also goes for following counties. Ramsey county - 511K, 5 seats. SAINT PAUL 1-3 Saint Paul, 287K together ROSEVILLE & SHOREVIEW Falcon Heights, Lauderdale, Roseville, Saint Anthony, New Brighton, Mounds View, Spring Lake Park, Arden Hills, Shoreview. 115K MAPLEWOOD & WHITE BEAR LAKE Remainder. 109K Anoka county - 298K, 3 seats. COON RAPIDS Colonial Heights, Hilltop, Fridley, Spring Lake Park, Coon Rapids. 116K BLAINE & LINO LAKES Centerville, Lino Lakes, Circle Pines, Lexington, Blaine, Columbus township, Ham Lake. 89K RAMSEY & ANDOVER Linwood, Burns townships, East Bethel, Oak Grove, Andover, Bethel, Saint Francis, Ramsey, Anoka. 96K Washington - 201K, 2 seats WOODBURY Woodbury, Cottage Grove, Newport, Saint Paul Park, Grey Cloud Island township, Denmark, Affton, Hastings, Lakeland, Lakeland Shores, Lake Saint Croix Beach, Saint Marys Point, West Lakeland township. 97K OAKDALE & STILLWATER remainder. 104K Dakota - 356K, 4 seats EAGAN Eagan, Mendota Heights, Mendota township, Lilydale (76K together), part of Apple Valley (45K) BURNSVILLE Burnsville (60K), remainder of Apple Valley SOUTH SAINT PAUL & ROSEMONT West Saint Paul, South Saint Paul, Inver Grove Heights, Sunfish Lake, Rosemont. 84K LAKEVILLE & HASTINGS Remainder. 91K As you'll notice, these 5 metro counties have just over half of Minnesota's population. RED WING & FARIBAULT Rice, Goodhue. 101K ROCHESTER Rochester city, Cascade, Haverhill, Marion, Rochester townships. 100K WINONA Remainder of Olmsted county; Wabasha, Winona. 96K AUSTIN & (?) (or just MINNESOTA SOUTH EAST) Houston, Fillmore, Mower, Dodge. 98K SHAKOPEE (?) & CHASKA Scott county, Chaska city of Carver county. 106K CHANHASSEN & HUTCHINSON Remainder of Carver county; Sibley, McLeod. 103K MANKATO Le Sueur, Nicollet, Blue Earth. 111K ALBERT LEA Freeborn, Waseca, Steele, Faribault. 103K REDWOOD FALLS, FAIRMONT & NEW ULM Redwood, Brown, Cottonwood, Watonwan, Jackson, Martin. 101K MARSHALL & WORTHINGTON (or Pipestone might be included, for historical relevance) Nobles, Rock, Murray, Pipestone, Lyon, Lincoln, Yellow Medicine, Lac qui Parle. 100K WILLMAR & LITCHFIELD Renville, Meeker, Kandiyohi, Chippewa, Swift. 106K SAINT MICHAEL Wright. 89K SAINT CLOUD Saint Cloud, Sartell, Waite Park, Saint Joseph, Rockville, Pleasat Lake, Kimball, Cold Spring, Avon cities, Le Sauk, Saint Augusta, Saint Joseph, Rockville, Saint Wendel, Lyndon, Fair Haven, Maine Prairie, Luxemburg, Wakefield, Collegeville, Avon townships. 99K LITTLE FALLS Remainder of Stearns; Todd, Morrison, Pope. 101K SAUK RAPIDS & SHERBURNE Sherburne, Benton. 98K LOWER SAINT CROIX (if I reuse this in Wisconsin, hit me as hard as you can) Chisago, Carlton, Pine. 100K DULUTH Duluth, Proctor, Hermantown cities, Midway, Rice Lake, Canosia, Lakewood townships. 106K IRON RANGE & BOUNDARY WATERS Remainder of Saint Louis county; Cook, Lake. 108K CAMBRIDGE & MILLE LACS Isanti, Kanabec, Mille Lacs, Aitkin. 83K BRAINERD & LEECH LAKE Crow Wing, Cass, Wadena, Hubbard. 114K FERGUS FALLS & MORRIS Otter Tail, Douglas, Grant, Stevens. 106K MOORHEAD Big Stone, Traverse, Wilkin, Clay, Norman, Becker. 105K BEMIDJI & INTERNATIONAL FALLS Itasca, Koochiching, Beltrami, Lake of the Woods. 103K THIEF RIVER FALLS & CROOKSTON Roseau, Kittson, Marshall, Pennington, Red Lake, Polk, Clearwater, Mahnomen. 93K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 19, 2005, 08:45:38 AM Wisconsin
5,363 mio. 54 seats. Not yet finished, some challenging geography. Counties entitled to seats of their own are: Eau Claire, 93K (named EAU CLAIRE) LaCrosse, 107K (named LA CROSSE) Dane, 427K Rock, 152K. Coupled with Green (34K) Walworth, 94K (named ELKHORN & WHITEWATER) Kenosha, 150K Racine, 188K Milwaukee, 940K. After much contemplation, I have decided to try and create a Kenosha district, a Racine district, 9 Milwaukee districts, a Racine/Kenosha district, and a Racine/Milwaukee district, or a total of 13 districts in the region. Waukesha, 361K Dodge, 86K. Jefferson county (74K) is in between these two plus Dane and Walworth, and will be split between these two. Ozaukee, 82K (named OZAUKEE, after the county) Washington, 117K (named WEST BEND) Sheboygan, 113K (named SHEBOYGAN) Brown, 227K Manitowoc, 83K. This county will be split, one part to go with the Door Peninsula counties of Kewaunee and Door (48K together), the other part with Calumet county (42K) Fond du Lac, 97K (named FOND DU LAC) Winnebago, 157K. Will be coupled with Waushara (23K) Outagamie, 161K Marathon, 126K. Will be coupled with Portage (67K). County splits haven't been done yet, and won't get done today. Multi-county constituencies are: SHAWANO & WAUPACA Shawano, Waupaca. 93K MARINETTE & ANTIGO Marinette, Langlade, Oconto, Menominee. 105K RHINELANDER Florence, Forest, Vilas, Oneida, Lincoln, Iron. 105K SUPERIOR & ASHLAND Douglas, Bayfield, Washburn, Sawyer, Ashland. 107K RICE LAKE & SAINT CROIX FALLS Burnett, Polk, Barron. 102K NEW RICHMOND & RIVER FALLS Saint Croix, Pierce. 100K MENOMONIE & (?) Dunn, Pepin, Buffalo, Trempealeau. 88K FLAMBEAU RIVER (?) Chippewa, Rusk, Taylor, Price. 106K SPARTA & BLACK RIVER Jackson, Clark, Monroe. 94K BARABOO & RICHLAND CENTER Vernon, Crawford, Richland, Sauk. 118K PLATTEVILLE Grant, Iowa, Lafayette. 89K PORTAGE Columbia, Marquette, Green Lake, Adams. 106K WISCONSIN RAPIDS Wood, Juneau. 100K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 19, 2005, 02:08:56 PM Tap, tap, tap, ...
Must be IL next. I've spent some time in anticipation thinking how I would do it. But, I'd like to see your view first. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 20, 2005, 10:43:16 AM Was supposed to be Michigan, actually, but okay, Illinois.
First off, though, the missing bits on Wisconsin. Dane county: MADISON NORTH EAST MADISON SOUTH WEST Madison (208K), Monona cities, Madison, Blooming Grove towns, Shorewood Hills, Maple Bluff villages. 228K together. Areas added for contiguity reasons. STOUGHTON & SUN PRAIRIE Sun Prairie, Stoughton cities, DeForest, Markhall, Deerfield, Cottage Grove, McFarland, something that I can't make out for the life of me but begins with Wa and ends with ee villages, Burke, Bristol, Sun Prairie, Windsor, York, Medina, Deerfield, Cottage Grove, Christiana, Pleasant Springs, Dunn, Albion, Dunkirk, Vienna, Westport towns, parts of Edgertown city and Cambridge village in Dane county. 102K FITCHBURG & MIDDLETON Remainder. 98K Rock and Green counties: JANESVILLE Janesville, Milton cities, Janesville, Harmons, Rock, La Prairie, Bradford, Johnstown, Lime, Milton, Fulton towns, part of Edgertown city in Rock county. 90K BELOIT & MONROE Remainder of Rock county; Green county. 96K Kenosha, Racine, and Milwaukee counties: KENOSHA Kenosha city, Somers town. 99K BURLINGTON & PLEASANT PRAIRIE Remainder of Kenosha county; Burlington city, Rochester, Waterford villages, Burlington, Rochester, Dover, Waterford, Norway towns. 92 K RACINE Racine city, Wind Point, North Bay, Elmwood Park, Sturtevant villages, Mount Pleasant town. 112K OAK CREEK & CUDAHY Remainder of Racine county; Cudahy, Saint Francis, Oak Creek, Saint Francis cities. 110K FRANKLIN & GREENFIELD Franklin, Greenfield cities, Hales Corners, Greendale villages. 86K WAUWATOSA & WEST ALLIS Wauwatosa, West Allis cities, West Milwaukee village. 112K MILWAUKEE 1-6 Bulk of Milwaukee city (597K) WHITEFISH BAY (named more for the bay than the village) Glendale city, Brown Deer, River Hills, Fox Point, Whitefish Bay, Shorewood villages, part of Bayside village in Milwaukee county, aka the part of the county to the NE of the city (66K together), plus small part of Milwaukee city. Waukesha, Jefferson, and Dodge counties: BROOKFIELD & MUSKEGO Brookfield, New Berlin, and Muskego cities; Elm Grove village. 110K WAUKESHA Waukesha, Pewaukee cities, Waukesha, Pewaukee towns. 94K MENOMONEE FALLS & OCONOMOWOC Oconomowoc city, Menomonee Falls, Lannon, Butler, Sussex, Merton, Chenequa, Lac La Belle, Oconomowoc Lake villages, Lisbon, Merton, Oconomowoc towns. 85K. All of these in Waukesha county. BEAVER DAM & WATERTOWN Dodge county; Waterloo, Lake Mills cities, Watertown, Milford, Waterloo, Lake Mills, Aztalan towns, part of Watertown city in Jefferson county. 115K FORT ATKINSON & MUKWONAGO Remainder of Waukesha county; Remainder of Jefferson county. 116K. I suppose I should move some more NW Waukesha county areas out of this district and into the Oconomowoc one. I don't feel like it. My boundaries look better. :P Door, Kewanee, Manitowoc, Calumet counties: MANITOWOC NORTH & DOOR PENINSULA Door, Kewanee counties; Two Rivers city, Maribel, Mishicot villages, Cooperstown, Gibson, Two Creeks, Mishicot, Two Rivers towns (68K to here), parts of Manitowoc city and town (35K together) MANITOWOC SOUTH & CALUMET Calumet county; remainder of Manitowoc county (70K + parts of city and town) Brown county: GREEN BAY Green Bay city, Scott, Green Bay, Humboldt towns. 109K DE PERE & HOWARD Remainder .116K Outagamie county: APPLETON Part of Appleton city in Outagamie county, Kimberly village, Grand Chute town. 82K KAUKAUNA Remainder of county. Just 79K actually. I should shift some NW Brown county areas into this constituency. Winnebago, Waushara counties: OSHKOSH Oshkosh, Omro cities; Oshkosh, Algoma, Black Wolf, Nekimi, Utica, Nepeuskun, Omro, Rushford, Vinland towns. 85K NEENAH & WAUSHARA Remainder of Winnebago county; Waushara county. 95K Marathon, Portage counties: WAUSAU Wausau, Schofield, Mosinee cities, Rothschild, Weston, Brokaw, Marathon City villages, Wausau, Stettin, Rib Mountain, Maine, Texas, Berlin, Marathon, Mosinee, Kronenwetter towns. 90K STEVENS POINT Remainder of Marathon county; Portage county. 103K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 20, 2005, 11:27:31 AM Former Congressman for the area. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 20, 2005, 12:19:20 PM Former Congressman for the area. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on May 20, 2005, 12:55:18 PM Illinois.
Population 12,419 mio. 124 seats. Cook County - 5,377 mio. 54 seats. DuPage County - 904K. 9 seats. Lake County - 644K. 6 seats. Will County - 502K. 5 seats Kane County - 404K. 4 seats McHenry County 260K.Boone County, 42K, situated between McHenry, DeKalb, and Winnebago, added. 302K. 3 seats. The splits for these Chicago area counties will be done next week, as I don't have time today. The remainder of the state is done, though: KANKAKEE Kankakee. 104K MORRIS & PLANO (?) Kendall, Grundy. 93K DE KALB De Kalb. 89K ROCKFORD NORTH Part of Rockford township (179K) ROCKFORD SOUTH Remainder of Rockford township; Cherry Valley township (18K). 197K together. MACHESNEY PARK & SOUTH BELOIT Remainder of Winnebago county. 81K FREEPORT Jo Daviess, Stephenson, Carroll. 89K DIXON & ROCHELLE Ogle, Lee. 87K OTTAWA, LA SALLE & PERU La Salle. 112K STERLING & EAST MOLINE Whiteside county; Cordova, Coe, Canoe Creek, Zuma, Hampton townships of Rock Island county; part of East Moline city in South Moline township. 100K ROCK ISLAND & MOLINE Remainder of Rock Island county. 110K PRINCETON & KEWANEE (?) Henry, Bureau, Stark, Putnam, Marshall. 112K MACOMB & MONMOUTH Mercer, Warren, Henderson, McDonough, Hancock. 97K QUINCY Adams, Brown, Schuyler, Pike, Calhoun. 104K GALESBURG Knox, Fulton. 94K PEORIA SOUTH West Peoria, Hollis, Timber, Limestone, Logan, Trivoli townships (33K), part of Peoria City township (113K), possibly Richwoods township (7K) depending on distribution of population inside city of Peoria. PEORIA NORTH Remainder of Peoria county. 183K together. PEKIN & EAST PEORIA Washington, Fondulac, Pekin, Groveland, Elm Grove, Cincinnati, Spring Lake, Dillon, Sand Praire townships of Tazewell county. 97K LINCOLN & (?) Remainder of Tazewell county; Woodford, Mason, Logan counties. 113K BLOOMINGTON & NORMAL Bloomington City, Bloomington, Normal townships. 114K CLINTON & (?, two more names might do well) Remainder of McLean county; Piatt, DeWitt, Moultrie. 83K WATSEKA & PONTIAC Iroquois, Ford, Livingston. 85K DANVILLE Vermilion. 84K CHAMPAIGN Champaign City, Champaign, Hensley, Mahomet, Scott townships. 92K URBANA & RENTOUL Remainder of Champaign county. 88K DECATUR Macon. 115K SPRINGFIELD NORTH EAST Fancy Creek, Williams, Clear Lake, Mechanicsburg, Buffalo Hart, Lanesville, Iliopolis, Rochester, Cooper townships (23K); part of Capital township (111K), all or part of Springfield township (7K), possibly part of Woodside township (13K) - these latter depending on contiguity and on the Capital split. SPRINGFIELD SOUTH WEST Remainder of Sangamon county. 189K together. BEARDSTOWN & JERSEYVILLE (or LOWER ILLINOIS RIVER) Menard, Cass, Morgan, Scott, Greene, Jersey. 106K ALTON Alton, Godfrey, Foster, Wood River, Fort Russell, Moro townships of Madison county. 94K. Adding Oumphghent and Hamel might be an option, bringing the population to 98K, but also weirding the shape of the Edwardsville district. GRANITE CITY & COLLINSVILLE Granite City, Chouteau, Venice, Nameoki, Collinsville, Jarvis townships. 102K EDWARDSVILLE & MACOUPIN Remainder of Madison county; Macoupin county. 112K (or 108K without Oumphghent and Hamel.) EAST SAINT LOUIS & CAHOKIA East Saint Louis, Stites, Canteen, Centreville, Caseyville townships of Saint Clair county. 100K BELLEVILLE Belleville, Stookey, Saint Clair, Shiloh Valley, O'Fallon townships. 115K CHESTER & WATERLOO Remainder of Saint Clair county; Monroe, Randolph counties. 103K TAYLORSVILLE & LITCHFIELD (?) Christian, Montgomery, Shelby, Bond. 106K CHARLESTON & PARIS (?) Douglas, Coles, Cumberland, Edgar. 104K LOWER WABASH (?) Clark, Crawford, Jasper, Lawrence, Richland, Wabash, Edwards. 98K EFFINGHAM & VANDALIA Effingham, Fayette, Marion, Clay. 113K FAIRFIELD & HARRISBURG Wayne, Hamilton, White, Saline, Gallatin, Pope, Hardin, Johnson. 96K MOUNT VERNON & DU QUOIN (? one more name for NE part perhaps) Clinton, Washington, Perry, Jefferson. 114K BENTON & MARION Franklin, Williamson. 100K CARBONDALE & CAIRO Jackson, Union, Alexander, Pulaski, Massac. 110K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 20, 2005, 03:53:59 PM Not too far off my split. I'll highlight some differences with my comments in my next post.
My big picture split goes along these lines: Chicago (except O'Hare) + Norwood Park: 2908 K, 29 seats. N. Cook (except Maine Twp) + Lake + McHenry: 1816 K, 18 seats. W. Cook (with O'Hare and Maine Twp) + DuPage + Kane: 2076 K, 21 seats. S. Cook + Will: 1291 K, 13 seats. Rest of the state: 4328 K, 43 seats. I kept Boone outside of the Chicago collar counties. McHenry + Lake add up to almost exactly 9 seats, and Winnebago + Boone + DeKalb add up to 409 K for 4 seats. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: muon2 on May 21, 2005, 12:17:40 AM My thoughts in color. The districts are rearranged in order as well.
NORTHERN REGION, 998 K, 10 seats DeKalb, Boone and Winnebago add up to 409 K for four seats, most of the population of Boone in the Rockford metro area. IL-82 DE KALB De Kalb. 89K add Boone except for Belvidere and Caledonia Twp. 101K IL-83 BELVIDERE MACHESNEY PARK & SOUTH BELOIT Remainder of Winnebago county. 81K add Belvidere and Caledonia Twp from Boone. 111K IL-84 ROCKFORD NORTH Part of Rockford township (179K) IL-85 ROCKFORD SOUTH Remainder of Rockford township; Cherry Valley township (18K). 197K together. IL-86 FREEPORT Jo Daviess, Stephenson, Carroll. 89K IL-87 DIXON DIXON & ROCHELLE Ogle, Lee. 87K IL-88 ROCK FALLS STERLING & EAST MOLINE Whiteside county; Cordova, Coe, Canoe Creek, Zuma, Hampton townships of Rock Island county; part of East Moline city in South Moline township. 100K IL-89 ROCK ISLAND & MOLINE Remainder of Rock Island county. 110K I had grouped Moline, S. Moline, Rock Island and S. Rock Island Twps for 97K, leaving a thin connect between the north and south half of the other district 113K. Yours works as well. IL-90 KEWAUNEE PRINCETON & KEWANEE (?) Henry, Bureau, Stark, Putnam, Marshall. 112K drop Marshall. 93K. IL-91 OTTAWA, LA SALLE & PERU La Salle. 112K EAST CENTRAL REGION, 910 K, 9 seats IL-92 OSWEGOMORRIS & PLANO (?) Kendall, Grundy. 93K IL-93 KANKAKEE Kankakee. 104K IL-94 PONTIACWATSEKA & PONTIAC Iroquois, Ford, Livingston. 85K Ford, Livingston, Woodford. 89K IL-95 DANVILLE Vermilion. 84K add Iroquois. 115K Champaign and Piatt together have 197K. There a number of ways to split them. IL-96 CHAMPAIGN Champaign City, Champaign, Hensley, Mahomet, Scott townships. 92K Champaign City, Champaign, Scott Twp, plus Piatt County. 97K IL-97 URBANA URBANA & RENTOUL Remainder of Champaign county. 88K 100K IL-98 DECATUR Macon. 115K McLean must be split, but I'd combine it with DeWitt and Logan. 198K IL-99 BLOOMINGTON & NORMAL Bloomington City, Bloomington, Normal townships. 114K drop Bloomington Twp for 110K IL-100 LINCOLN CLINTON & (?, two more names might do well) Remainder of McLean county; Piatt, DeWitt, Moultrie. 83K Remainder of McLean, DeWitt, Logan. 88K WEST CENTRAL REGION, 986 K, 10 seats Tazewell, Morgan, Mason and Cass equal 195K IL-101 EAST PEORIA PEKIN & EAST PEORIA Washington, Fondulac, Pekin, Groveland, Elm Grove, Cincinnati, Spring Lake, Dillon, Sand Praire townships of Tazewell county. 97K Fondulac, Groveland, Morton, Pekin, Washington Twp. 98K IL-102 JACKSONVILLE LINCOLN & (?) Remainder of Tazewell county; Woodford, Mason, Logan counties. 113K Remainder of Tazewell, Cass, Mason, Morgan. 97K Peoria, Stark and Marshall equal 203K. IL-103 PEORIA CITYPEORIA SOUTH West Peoria, Hollis, Timber, Limestone, Logan, Trivoli townships (33K), part of Peoria City township (113K), possibly Richwoods township (7K) depending on distribution of population inside city of Peoria. Just Peoria City Twp. 113K IL-104 PEORIA HEIGHTS PEORIA NORTH Remainder of Peoria county. 183K together. Remainder of Peoria, Stark, Marshall. 90K IL-105 GALESBURG Knox, Fulton. 94K Try Knox, Henderson, Mercer, Warren. 100K IL-106 MACOMB MACOMB & MONMOUTH Mercer, Warren, Henderson, McDonough, Hancock. 97K Fulron, Hancock, McDonough, Schuyler. 98K IL-107 QUINCY Adams, Brown, Schuyler, Pike, Calhoun. 104K drop Schuyler. 98K IL-108 CARLINVILLE BEARDSTOWN & JERSEYVILLE (or LOWER ILLINOIS RIVER) Menard, Cass, Morgan, Scott, Greene, Jersey. 106K Greene, Jersey, Macoupin, Scott. 91K Sangamon and Menard together equal 202K. IL-109 SPRINGFIELD SPRINGFIELD NORTH EAST Fancy Creek, Williams, Clear Lake, Mechanicsburg, Buffalo Hart, Lanesville, Iliopolis, Rochester, Cooper townships (23K); part of Capital township (111K), all or part of Springfield township (7K), possibly part of Woodside township (13K) - these latter depending on contiguity and on the Capital split. just Springfield City (Capital Twp). 111K IL-110 SANGAMON SPRINGFIELD SOUTH WEST Remainder of Sangamon county. 189K together. Remainder of Sangamon, Menard. 90K METRO EAST REGION, 515 K, 5 seats Madison and St Clair together make very close to 5 seats, and the surrounding counties are much more rural and "southern", unlike the urban and suburban areas in the Metro East. IL-111 ALTON Alton, Godfrey, Foster, Wood River, Fort Russell, Moro townships of Madison county. 94K. Adding Oumphghent and Hamel might be an option, bringing the population to 98K, but also weirding the shape of the Edwardsville district. Add Alhambra, Leef, New Douglas, Olive. 104K. IL-112 EDWARDSVILLE & GRANITE CITY GRANITE CITY & COLLINSVILLE Granite City, Chouteau, Venice, Nameoki, Collinsville, Jarvis townships. 102K drop Collinsville and Jarvis, add Edwardsville, Marine, Pin Oak, Saline. 100K IL-113 COLLINSVILLE & O'FALLON EDWARDSVILLE & MACOUPIN Remainder of Madison county; Macoupin county. 112K (or 108K without Oumphghent and Hamel.) Madison: Collinsville, Helvetia, Jarvis, St Jacob; St Clair: Caseyville, O'Fallon. 103K IL-114 EAST ST LOUIS EAST SAINT LOUIS & CAHOKIA East Saint Louis, Stites, Canteen, Centreville, Caseyville townships of Saint Clair county. 100K drop Caseyville and add Millstadt, Prairie du Long, Smithton, Stookey, Sugar Loaf. 100K IL-115 BELLEVILLE Belleville, Stookey, Saint Clair, Shiloh Valley, O'Fallon townships. 115K Belleville, Englemann, Fayetteville, Freeburg, Lebanon, Lenzburg, Marissa, Mascoutah, New Athens, St Clair, Shiloh Valley. 108K SOUTHERN REGION, 918 K, 9 seats IL-116 KASKASKIA CHESTER & WATERLOO Remainder of Saint Clair county; Monroe, Randolph counties. 103K Monroe, Perry, Randolph, Washington. 100K IL-117 LITCHFIELD & VANDALIA TAYLORSVILLE & LITCHFIELD (?) Christian, Montgomery, Shelby, Bond. 106K Bond, Clinton, Fayette, Montgomery. 106K IL-118 CHARLESTON CHARLESTON & PARIS (?) Douglas, Coles, Cumberland, Edgar. 104K I swapped Clark for Cumberland. 110K IL-119 EFFINGHAM EFFINGHAM & VANDALIA Effingham, Fayette, Marion, Clay. 113K Christian, Effingham, Moultrie, Shelby. 107K IL-120 LITTLE WABASH LOWER WABASH (?) Clark, Crawford, Jasper, Lawrence, Richland, Wabash, Edwards. 98K Drop Clark and add Clay and Cumberland. 108K IL-121 MT VERNON MOUNT VERNON & DU QUOIN (? one more name for NE part perhaps) Clinton, Washington, Perry, Jefferson. 114K Jefferson, Marion, Wayne. 99K IL-122 SALINE RIVER FAIRFIELD & HARRISBURG Wayne, Hamilton, White, Saline, Gallatin, Pope, Hardin, Johnson. 96K Franklin, Gallatin, Hamilton, Saline, White. 96K IL-123 MARION BENTON & MARION Franklin, Williamson. 100K Hardin, Johnson, Massac, Pope, Williamson. 99K IL-124 CARBONDALE CARBONDALE & CAIRO Jackson, Union, Alexander, Pulaski, Massac. 110K Drop Massac. 95K Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on June 13, 2005, 02:46:17 AM Illinois. Population 12,419 mio. 124 seats. Cook County - 5,377 mio. 54 seats. DuPage County - 904K. 9 seats. Lake County - 644K. 6 seats. Will County - 502K. 5 seats Kane County - 404K. 4 seats McHenry County 260K.Boone County, 42K, situated between McHenry, DeKalb, and Winnebago, added. 302K. 3 seats. The splits for these Chicago area counties will be done next week, as I don't have time today. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2007, 02:03:30 AM This was pretty cool. Can't believe I missed it last time.
PLYMOUTH & (what's the name of that lake?) Lake Minnetonka I also think it would make more sense to keep Austin and Albert Lea together. Albert Lea would HATE your district including it. Here's how they'd all vote: MINNEAPOLIS 1-4 - all solid DFL obviously BLOOMINGTON - swing seat. Probably votes GOP if they can get a moderate through the primary. Otherwise DFL. Probably held by a DFLer now based on the state leg seats. RICHFIELD - EDINA - HOPKINS - Lean DFL EDEN PRAIRIE & MINNETONKA - Lean GOP SAINT LOUIS PARK & GOLDEN VALLEY - Fairly strong Dem BROOKLYN PARK - see Bloomington PLYMOUTH & LAKE MINNETONKA - Fairly strong GOP MAPLE GROVE - super-ultra-strong GOP SAINT PAUL 1-3 - Solid DFL, yawn... ROSEVILLE & SHOREVIEW - Fairly Strong DFL MAPLEWOOD & WHITE BEAR LAKE - Lean DFL COON RAPIDS - Tossup. Slight DFL Lean BLAINE & LINO LAKES - Lean GOP RAMSEY & ANDOVER - Lean GOP WOODBURY - tossup leaning DFL OAKDALE & STILLWATER - tossup leaning GOP EAGAN - Leans GOP, goes DFL if they nominate a hard right winger BURNSVILLE - see above SOUTH SAINT PAUL & ROSEMONT - DFL LAKEVILLE & HASTINGS - Fairly strong GOP RED WING & FARIBAULT - Lean DFL ROCHESTER - Traditionally strong GOP, now weakening greatly. DFL now controls the state leg seats in the area, but I'll be nice and assume the GOP still has this one. WINONA - Heavily Leans DFL AUSTIN - Strong DFL SHAKOPEE (?) & CHASKA - Strong GOP CHANHASSEN & HUTCHINSON - Super-strong GOP MANKATO - Lean DFL ALBERT LEA - Lean GOP (and everyone in Freeborn county is very very pissed off) REDWOOD FALLS, FAIRMONT & NEW ULM - Super-strong GOP MARSHALL & WORTHINGTON - Strong GOP WILLMAR & LITCHFIELD - Probably GOP, but the DFL would have a great shot SAINT MICHAEL - Super-strong GOP SAINT CLOUD - complete tossup LITTLE FALLS - Lean GOP SAUK RAPIDS & SHERBURNE - Strong GOP LOWER SAINT CROIX - Strong DFL (and a badly drawn district) DULUTH - Uber-DFL IRON RANGE & BOUNDARY WATERS - Uber-DFL CAMBRIDGE & MILLE LACS - Lean GOP BRAINERD & LEECH LAKE - Lean GOP FERGUS FALLS & MORRIS - Fairly strong GOP MOORHEAD - DFL wins it if they get a populist through the primary. Probably would BEMIDJI & INTERNATIONAL FALLS - Fairly strong DFL THIEF RIVER FALLS & CROOKSTON - Lean GOPd So you basically have 25 DFL seats, 23 GOP seats and a complete tossup one. Dependening on circumstances though the DFL seats could be anywhere from 18-35 and GOP seats anywhere from 14-31 I'll comment on the North Dakota one tommorow too. That SD majority Native seat is interesting too in guessing if it'd elect a Native Democrat or white Democrat. I'd guess a white Democrat. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Alcon on March 07, 2007, 02:51:08 AM Aye, Lewis, whatever happened to that?
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on March 07, 2007, 09:56:18 AM Aye, Lewis, whatever happened to that? Obviously. Nor am I going to restart it, at least until I'm finished with Kingdom Cum. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on March 07, 2007, 10:05:07 AM For decades Chicago has been divided into community areas that now coincide with groups of census tracts that have summary data collected for them. In terms of census data they area at an equivalent level to townships. The Chicago Community Area Data can be found at the City of Chicago's Department of Planning and Development. The url for the page with the map is map page (http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalContentItemAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0286227019.1115155072@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfaddeidjiigkcefecelldffhdfgn.0&contentOID=536896854&contenTypeName=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&blockName=Planning+And+Development%2F+North%2FI+Want+To&context=dept&channelId=0&programId=0&entityName=Planning+And+Development&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886114) The population data can be looked up on this page: pop page (http://egov.cityofchicago.org/city/webportal/portalDeptCategoryAction.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0286227019.1115155072@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfaddeidjiigkcefecelldffhdfgn.0&deptCategoryOID=-536889699&contentType=COC_EDITORIAL&topChannelName=Dept&entityName=Planning+And+Development&deptMainCategoryOID=-536886126) If you want my suggestions on the division into 100 K units I'll be happy to oblige. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2007, 12:29:14 PM I just calculated, the Native majority district in SD voted 51.81% for Kerry. So it possibly could go Republican in a very low Native turnout situation. Of course it also voted 61.58% for Daschle in 2004, so it wouln't be that difficult for a Democrat to overperform on Kerry's numbers and get a bit of a cushion. Most likely a relatively moderate white Democrat would win and become an entrenched popular incumbent.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on March 07, 2007, 02:58:04 PM I just calculated, the Native majority district in SD voted 51.81% for Kerry. So it possibly could go Republican in a very low Native turnout situation. Of course it also voted 61.58% for Daschle in 2004, so it wouln't be that difficult for a Democrat to overperform on Kerry's numbers and get a bit of a cushion. Most likely a relatively moderate white Democrat would win and become an entrenched popular incumbent. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2007, 03:04:59 PM Lyman and Charles Mix counties no doubt have a significant number of white Democrats. Bennett too.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Alcon on March 07, 2007, 03:07:31 PM Lyman and Charles Mix counties no doubt have a significant number of white Democrats. Bennett too. Indeed - there's plenty of white Democrats in the area, if you look at precinct results for towns that are almost entirely white. They're obviously the minority, but they certainly exist in significant numbers. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on March 07, 2007, 03:09:23 PM Lyman and Charles Mix counties no doubt have a significant number of white Democrats. Bennett too. Indeed - there's plenty of white Democrats in the area, if you look at precinct results for towns that are almost entirely white. They're obviously the minority, but they certainly exist in significant numbers. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: Alcon on March 07, 2007, 03:11:22 PM Lyman and Charles Mix counties no doubt have a significant number of white Democrats. Bennett too. Indeed - there's plenty of white Democrats in the area, if you look at precinct results for towns that are almost entirely white. They're obviously the minority, but they certainly exist in significant numbers. I don't see why not. It's not as if Native Americans aren't used to voting for white Democrats for everything. After all, Stephanie Herseth's 2006 opponent was an Indian. But then again, he probably was hardly contested. I think a moderate Indian Democrat is more likely. But how high is NA turnout in the primary? Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2007, 03:12:50 PM Lyman and Charles Mix counties no doubt have a significant number of white Democrats. Bennett too. Indeed - there's plenty of white Democrats in the area, if you look at precinct results for towns that are almost entirely white. They're obviously the minority, but they certainly exist in significant numbers. Native turnout is usually rather low, I'd imagine that in primaries it's absolutely atrocious. That's usually what happens in similar state legislature districts btw. I believe that the State Senator for the district that contains Sioux county in ND is a white Democrat from Grant County. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 07, 2007, 10:49:04 PM Here's a brief comparison of white vs. Native turnout:
Haakon is the only predominately white county in Lewis' district. It has a population in 2004 I'm estimating of around 2000, of which 1600 were of voting age. 1240 votes were cast in it in 2004. Shannon County had a population of around 13,400 in 2004. Of those about 7800 were legal voting age. It had 4214 votes cast in it in 2004. That means Haakon had eligible voter turnout of 77.5%, while Shannon had turnout of 54%. And 2004 was a good year for Shannon. In 2000 it had half as many votes cast. My rough calculations show an eligible voter turnout of around 27%. BTW, I don't know about SD's leg, but I looked at ND's and didn't find any Native members, even in the heavily Native districts. I also learned that out of 47 districts, Kerry only won 2 of them, one based around Rollette county, the other located in Fargo. He also came about a point of winning a seat in Grand Forks, and about 2 points of winning a district that contains some heavily Native areas near Minot (and that includes Mountrail county that he came within 2 points of winning). All of these seats elect Democrats, and all are white, even the Rollette county district (which is the only Native majority one in the state) Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on March 08, 2007, 10:58:55 AM SD has two-member House districts that also serve as single-member Senate districts... except for two Senate districts that are split into single-member districts so that one of them is Native-majority. Another district, which includes Pine Ridge, would appear to be Native-majority anyways. As far as I can see, there would appear to be three Native legislators, all Democrats. The Pine Ridge Senator (who looks full-blood to me, and is a woman, and has one of those pretty surnames - "Two Bulls"), one Pine Ridge Representative (who's obviously mixed-blood, though. His White colleague is a Republican), and one of the split district Representatives (for Corson etc - he too would appear to be mixed blood). At Rosebud though, there is indeed a White Democratic state Rep holding the native-majority split district.
Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 08, 2007, 09:42:07 PM SD has two-member House districts that also serve as single-member Senate districts... Same deal in ND. The Pine Ridge Senator (who looks full-blood to me, and is a woman, and has one of those pretty surnames - "Two Bulls") I remember how I got really pissed in early grade school because I didn't have a cool last name like lots of my classmates :D one Pine Ridge Representative (who's obviously mixed-blood, though. His White colleague is a Republican), and one of the split district Representatives (for Corson etc - he too would appear to be mixed blood). At Rosebud though, there is indeed a White Democratic state Rep holding the native-majority split district. Interesting, but the difference between Pine Ridge and the ND reservations is Pine Ridge is almost exclusively Native and thus no one else can run, but all the ND areas have a significant white population. The district containing Standing Rock also contains some nearby heavily white counties (and voted over 60% for Bush despite all three representatives being Democrats) and even Standing Rock itself contains some areas of significant white settlement, my neighborhood was about 1/3 white (and it actually wasn't located in Fort Yates proper, but neither does a majority of the Fort Yates area), Selfridge is about 40% white (and voted for Bush narrowly) and I there's a predominately white area out in the western part of the county (this explains the two precincts that voted over 77% and 66% for Bush and in 2000 each vote over 67% for Bush with Pat Buchanan taking over 11 and 12% leaving with Gore with less than 20% in both) and Rolette county is about 25% white. I assume the case is simply that Natives aren't interested in politics beyond the tribal and local level and aren't running. The State Senator from Rollette (who is also Minority Leader) looks like he's mixed-race though, the wiki article on him says he holds his family's original claim to their land from the Homestead Act of 1862, so if they've lived there that long there probably no doubt has been some mixing. BTW, one of the peculiarities of Sioux County that I still haven't figured out is that the Hispanic population is larger than the state average and is almost 4% in Fort Yates proper. I do know a Hispanic from there though, a good friend of my mom's, she now lives in Mandan, has a white husband whose also a Buddhist (how's that for a couple in North Dakota?) and an adopted Native daughter. Title: The Bump that nobody expected Post by: minionofmidas on February 19, 2012, 11:43:15 AM Yeah, me too. It's just that I don't know how to make them. And am not always working from the same computer. I'll not be sticking to the rules outlined in the opening post though. Less tolerance now, say 5000 from the state average. Still keeping the number of county splits to a minimum. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on February 19, 2012, 11:58:30 AM ()
Crazy Laconia & points se district is, I think necessary if you want to split no more counties than necessary and split no townships except Manchester (which is slightly too large for one district) and have one district entirely in Manchester. Might be preferable to ignore the meaningless New England counties, but the Nashua district is dictated by the remaining rules anyways, and room for maneuver is limited across Hillsborough and Rockingham, so something odd would probably arise anyways. New Hampshire North 101,429, 55.3% Obama Lebanon 99,966, 61.3% Obama Cheshire 101,923, 62.4% Obama Laconia & North Rockingham 101,180, 49.8% Obama (would no doubt elect a Republican) Dover & Rochester 103,347, 61.5% Obama Portsmouth 101,608, 57.7% Obama Derry & Mid Rockingham 103,123, 53.4% McCain Salem & Hudson 102,363, 54.9% McCain Nashua 99,169, 81.0% anglo, 54.9% Obama West Hillsborough 102,177, 51.3% Obama (would no doubt elect a Republican) Manchester 99,709, 81.9% anglo, 55.2% Obama Manchester West & Hooksett (or whatever you'd call it) 100,391, 52.2% McCain Concord 100,085, 59.9% Obama All other districts over 90% anglo. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on February 19, 2012, 12:27:04 PM Reworked it. That Laconia district was just too damn silly. Even reduced the number of county splits by one.
Granted, the districts between Manchester and Nashua look a bit silly now, but that's exurbia anyways. (One of them is also very near the upper limit of tolerance now.) On the plus side, West Hillsborough has been improved on. () New Hampshire North 101,429, 55.3% Obama Lebanon 101,065, 62.5% Obama Cheshire 101,923, 62.4% Obama Concord 100,708, 58.1% Obama Belknap 100,859, 51.3% Obama (would no doubt elect a Republican) Dover & Rochester 103,347, 61.5% Obama Mid Rockingham (or whatever you'd call it) 100,251, 53.3% McCain Portsmouth 101,608, 57.7% Obama Derry & Salem 104,559, 53.7% McCain West Hillsborough 99,655, 51.1% Obama (would no doubt elect a Republican) Manchester 100,966, 81.8% anglo, 55.2% Obama Merrimack & Hudson (or whatever you want to call it, these are just the two largest townships) 100,931, 53.5% McCain Nashua 99,169, 81.0% anglo, 54.9% Obama All other districts over 90% anglo. Title: Re: Well, look what HE's doing to US now... Post by: minionofmidas on February 19, 2012, 03:57:19 PM Moving this to a new thread.
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