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'Bin Laden' offers Europe truce

Bin Laden is widely believed to be still alive
Two Arab TV channels have broadcast an audiotape said to be from Osama Bin Laden in which he offers Europe a truce if it "stops attacking Muslims".

However, Spain, Britain, Germany and the European Commission have all rejected such a move, with EC President Romano Prodi saying there was "no possibility for negotiation under a terrorist threat".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3627775.stm

Heh...I guess we haven't sunk quite that low here in Europe yet... ;)

Oh I imagine a majority of Europeans would vote to accept Bin Laden's kind offer.

the fools probably will

lets think...have no risk of being killed or anger im further....

Didn't we supposedly have Bin Laden surrounded in northern Pakistan a few weeks ago? Any word on how old this tape is?

Of course Islam would come to take over Europe by the sword after they'd beaten off the US.  Europeans don't understand the culture they're up against.

I don't doubt it.  Interesting how France hasn't wieghed in to flatly refuse the offer yet.

Gee, thanks for having so much good faith in your allies. Typical Europe-hating neocons.

I for one think Bin Laden can take his 'truce' and shove it where the sun don't shine. He blatantly wants to drive a wedge between Europe and America, but there's no way we will let him succeed.

No. Also France did so.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/04/15/binladen.tape/index.html

Sorry but you are stupid (or ignoramus...)

I recall you that the number 2 of Al quaeda threatened France after the prohibition of the islamic scarf in the plublic schools (who condemned this measurement? muslims countries and... United States of America*! Sorry but the collusion is manifest...)

I recall you that France was already the target of the islamic terrorism in 1995 (attacks in the parisian subway) and before ("Air France the taking of hostages") and several attacks were recently avoided.

I recall you that French troops (and Spanish troops and Belgian Troops and...) are currently in Afganistan to help US to fight against terrorism.  

Europe, more than any other continent, knows the price of liberty and is determined to fight it

* it's the interference in the french  affairs. Never France made interference in the US policy.

exactly, I agree with Michael Z here.

France is probably number 1 on Al Qaeda's hit list (the headscarves thing REALLY pissed them off)

We should make Bin Laden a member of the UN, then he can speak his voice among the deligates and get what he wants...or he'll just notice that the UN gets nothing done and will blow that up! :)

LOL

They(Muslims) are trying to dominate the world and it's politics. Read the Pact of Umar. This is their doctrine.

Not all Muslims are trying to dominate the world.

Ehhh...you're both way wrong. Way, way, way, wrong.

I think dunn doesn't mean to call Europeans fools, he is saying that fools in Europe would want to accept it, but the rest wouldn't, he isn't calling us all fools gustaf, that just isn't dunn-like.

Ah...that does sound a lot better. :)

thank you JFK
that o/c what I meant Gus
JFK. are you sure you don't want to join the progressives;)

I have to give the French credit - the headscarf ban was cool and a good slap in the face to the muslims.   You know the British used to wrap all the enemy casualties in bacon, etc.  

Yes I am sure LOL.

I don't really believe that Europe is just going to lay down and surrender to Muslims. I have more faith in the Old World then that. But I just find it more then sad that the French would not support us in our time of need. We saved them from Germany twice in 50 years and they treat us like crap. I think Frances' non-involvement has a lot to do with all the weapons they sold to Iraq. I guess they didn't want to go in w/us side by side and we discover French weapons in the hands of our enemies. But I say heck, let the French sell their weapons, they are only going to drop them on sight of any sort of enemy or resistance.

The view of France as cowards is a little odd...France has always done what's in their interest as a nation. It's odd that people expected some sort of solidarity from France, that they would help the US out of gratitude. Germany was worse, really. To understand French foreign policy, one has to forget EVERYTHING about morals. Then it isn't all that hard.

The French are so wishy washy with their policies it's hard to find anything consistent about them.

the high quality of their wine and cheese is pretty consistent :).

StatesRights,

I have no idea what you're talking about. France foreign policy is one of the most consistent in the world. France first, plain and simple. China, and most other machiavellian countries are the same.

I prefer California wines and British/Italian cheese. :)

Yes, in some ways it is consistent. France first and everyone else to hell.

French wine is great, Californian is pretty good too, I want to get my hands on a bottle from 2003, because of the boiling summer Europe had, the grapes were of an excellent quality for wine, but it also meant there were few of them so it will be top quality wine at top prices.

Supposed to be excellent though.

Mozarella is my favourite cheese heh.

Romano or Parmesan for me. I like Bleu Cheese too. I don't know how many Europeans take to that.

Yep. It's called Gaullism...

Yeah. :)

Eh, enough of the Euro-bashing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't ever single country in Europe told Bin Laden were to stuff his truce?

I'm not Euro-bashing, far from it. I love Europe and just think France has been a very wimpy country militarily since Napoleon.

Oh, yes! As an Englishman, I can bash France for hours! :)

USA also sold weapons in Iraq and I remind you that Saudi Arabia, compromised in 9/11, is an allie of Bush administration.
And I must as say as that USA intervened in Euope only after the japan attack against Pearl Harbor. Before it, 90% americans (while UK was under the bombs... who are the cowards?) were against a intervention in Europe to fight nazism and co. Consequently, USA did not come to deliver France but to ensure his security.

The USA sold a VERY small percent of weapons as compared to France, Germany and Russia. It is somewhere under 1%.