Title: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: JOEBIALEK on December 20, 2003, 06:58:23 PM On this 50th anniversary of Playboy Magazine, perhaps a discussion of pornography is appropriate. Pornography is defined as
sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal. Those who promote it believe they are exercising their right from the first amendment of the United States Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. The delicate question before us goes beyond the legal justification for allowing anyone to speak or write about anything they choose to. It speaks to the moral and ethical ramifications of such an enterprise. Our society today is inundated with references to sexuality in any medium we experience. The often quoted justification is that "sex sells" and therefore if marketing outlets can somehow equate a material purchase with sexual gratification, then some hidden unmet need will be satisfied. This is Freudianomics at its worst. Sex is promoted today as a means to an end and not the expression of love between consenting adults. Pornography portrays sex as some lustful hedonism with little regard for the potential outcome of such an experience. Still, millions of people purchase it for their own sexual stimulation. They believe that since those being filmed are consenting adults there is no harm to anyone. Assuming there is mutual consent among the actors, what is the difference between paying them to have sex with each other and paying a prostitute to have sex with you? Whether you favor or oppose pornography, it is this country's obsession with sex that is the root of the problem and the unfortunate consequences it produces. Until we as a nation can collectively mature out of this sexual pre-occupation we will be trapped in our own national adolescence. Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 20, 2003, 07:48:16 PM Uh... ok.
Happy birthday Playboy! WOOHOO! Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: CHRISTOPHER MICHAE on December 20, 2003, 08:09:23 PM On this 50th anniversary of Playboy Magazine, perhaps a discussion of pornography is appropriate. Pornography is defined as sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal. Those who promote it believe they are exercising their right from the first amendment of the United States Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. The delicate question before us goes beyond the legal justification for allowing anyone to speak or write about anything they choose to. It speaks to the moral and ethical ramifications of such an enterprise. Our society today is inundated with references to sexuality in any medium we experience. The often quoted justification is that "sex sells" and therefore if marketing outlets can somehow equate a material purchase with sexual gratification, then some hidden unmet need will be satisfied. This is Freudianomics at its worst. Sex is promoted today as a means to an end and not the expression of love between consenting adults. Pornography portrays sex as some lustful hedonism with little regard for the potential outcome of such an experience. Still, millions of people purchase it for their own sexual stimulation. They believe that since those being filmed are consenting adults there is no harm to anyone. Assuming there is mutual consent among the actors, what is the difference between paying them to have sex with each other and paying a prostitute to have sex with you? Whether you favor or oppose pornography, it is this country's obsession with sex that is the root of the problem and the unfortunate consequences it produces. Until we as a nation can collectively mature out of this sexual pre-occupation we will be trapped in our own national adolescence. Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Demrepdan on December 20, 2003, 11:18:06 PM What the HELL does this topic have to do with the 2004 Presidential Election? Have they found nude pictures of Howard Dean or something?
Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: CHRISTOPHER MICHAE on December 20, 2003, 11:26:19 PM What the HELL does this topic have to do with the 2004 Presidential Election? Have they found nude pictures of Howard Dean or something? I agree it really belongs under General Discussion. Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: jravnsbo on December 21, 2003, 01:23:01 AM So that's why he is not releasing those VT Gov Documents!! :) :)
What the HELL does this topic have to do with the 2004 Presidential Election? Have they found nude pictures of Howard Dean or something? Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: © tweed on December 21, 2003, 08:04:21 AM So that's why he is not releasing those VT Gov Documents!! :) :) What the HELL does this topic have to do with the 2004 Presidential Election? Have they found nude pictures of Howard Dean or something? Title: Re:PORNOGRAPHY Post by: migrendel on December 21, 2003, 12:34:17 PM Pornography is really an issue which continues to baffle legal analysis. The future of the First Amendment may be partially defined by the doctrine of obscenity. I suppose the best way to confront it is to view it from the perspective of the test to define something as obscene, the Brennan doctrine, as articulated in Fanny Hill v. Massachusetts. In this case, John Cleland's 1749 novel, Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure, a landmark of British literature, was found unfit for readership in the Commonwealth. It was contended that it was nothing more than well-written pornography. The Supreme Court refused to allow the ban to continue. It is very hard to quibble with a decision freeing an acknowledged work of literature from censorship, but the test used to free it was objectionable. The test delineated three criteria used to determine whether something was obscene. It had to (a) be utterly without redeeming social, literary, artistic, political, or scientific value (b) be patently offensive and (c) appeal to a prurient interest. This is different from the even more repressive common law obscenity doctrine in Regina v. Hicklin, but still in conflict with a free society. Utterly without value. Clearly harsh words for anyone to attach to a work of literature. But they have been considered germane to brilliant literature. For example, James Joyce's Ulysses was found obscene by several Massachusetts courts in the 1920s and 1930s. It took a judge of truly cosmopolitan outlook, James Munro Woolsey, to free it from the constraints of church and state, saying "nowhere do I detect the leer of a sensualist". Lady Chatterley's Lover, perhaps one of the seminal exploration of sexuality, class, and society in the canon, was supressed for many years. Unable to publish it in his native England, D.H. Lawrence had to publish the book in Italy. It was illegal to import into this country until 1960, when Judge Frederick Van Pelt Bryan found a claim of obscenity unsupportable. While Constance Chatterley's gamekeeper and lover, Oliver Mellors, does use a prepondrance of old Anglo-Saxon words in several parts of the book, they really are integral to the character's development and are an accurate reflection of the Derbyshire vernacular he speaks. Why I have chosen these two books, out of the many classic works of belles lettres that were once objected to by parochial minds, is that these two struck me as never needing to have been considered obscene, and every day they were kept from readers was a loss. I suppose the point of that lengthy analysis of the first prong of the Brennan Doctrine was to say that the books that are realized to be brilliant are found to be obscene under that same standard. While nothing stops those books from being sold in any bookshop today, there may be a case of a book that is truly remarkable but fails to gain the imprimatur of the state, and languishes until enlightened minds rescue it. What a shame if the Brennan Doctrine causes that. The second prong's problem is similar to that of the first. What can we call obscene without a fair degree of being arbitrary? For example, the FCC, in accordance with the Brennan Doctrine, found the adjective ing as in "This is so ing great." to not be repressible under the obscenity doctrine, because the use, in context, was not prurient, a condition that need be met. Congressman Doug Ose, citing the usual family friendly malarkey, is now pushing a resolution which will radically expand the concept of obscenity in broadcast media. His resolution will ban seven words or phrases, in all their grammatical forms, from the airwaves. (If you don't wish to read what will be illegal, or such words offend you, you may want to skip over the next few lines.) The words and phrases which will be banned per se are sh**t, piss, , c**nt, asshole, mother er, and cock sucker. Now I don't tend to use those words. I'm not looking down on anyone who does, but it's just not my speaking style. I do however see the threat to liberty in banning them. Those words express ideas. Because of that, their place in the First Amendment is clear. I won't address the third prong in the Brennan Doctrine because its meaning is pretty self-explanatory. I would however, like to write about a narrower issue of obscenity, pornography. Pornography really does express an idea. It expresses in general, themes of eroticism and sensuality. An example of pornography might contain other themes (e.g. bondage, dominance, etc.). I could only see it is as a variant of speech that, while not exulted like the freedom of the press, should nonetheless be part of the discourse in a free society. The only way to protect this is to expand on the current protections and say that pornography should be legalized for public consumption, without the governance of obscenity laws, and the possession of pornography within the home should be protected under the right to privacy. I suppose such a change in the law would incite controversy, but it's the only way to live to those words in our founding document "...make no law... abridging the freedom of speech..."
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on January 18, 2009, 05:47:19 AM Why is it that 95% (over 40 times) of the time I click on "Online Users" this thread shows up on the first page, being viewed by some Guest?
Are you "Guest" losers really searching on Google for "PORNOGRAPHY JOHN KERRY OHIO WEST VIRGINIA MARGINS OF ERROR" or something? Can one of you endless guests explain this to me please? This is like the worst website to get turned on in the universe yet I've seen this thread viewed more than any other thread (including my awesome sig) Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: tik 🪀✨ on January 18, 2009, 10:58:08 AM If you bother to read migrendel's giant brick of words, you'll find some key phrases that are likely to give a wide range of wank-related search results.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 18, 2009, 11:16:44 AM Playboy isn't really porn, obviously. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it] on January 18, 2009, 11:25:27 AM If you bother to read migrendel's giant brick of words, you'll find some key phrases that are likely to give a wide range of wank-related search results. Yes, for guys who do that things on blogs or forums. Personally, when I see such bricks, I don't read. Please, be aware that when you post on a forum it's to communicate with other people, and so, get information about what are paragraphs. Then, pornography. For teens it seems to be something fully normal. For the best things, it shows sex as a gymnastic, for the worst ones as a wild violent thing. According to the huge thing that becomes pornography today, I really wonder on the future of sexuality... And, yes, if Playboy is porn, it might be the lowest level of it. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Hatman 🍁 on January 18, 2009, 12:10:47 PM Why is it that 95% (over 40 times) of the time I click on "Online Users" this thread shows up on the first page, being viewed by some Guest? Are you "Guest" losers really searching on Google for "PORNOGRAPHY JOHN KERRY OHIO WEST VIRGINIA MARGINS OF ERROR" or something? Can one of you endless guests explain this to me please? This is like the worst website to get turned on in the universe yet I've seen this thread viewed more than any other thread (including my awesome sig) Just for sh**s and giggles, I searched for those terms. Didn't get this page :( ETA: Holy crap, this thread has over 18,000 views Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: k-onmmunist on January 18, 2009, 12:13:55 PM Why is it that 95% (over 40 times) of the time I click on "Online Users" this thread shows up on the first page, being viewed by some Guest? Are you "Guest" losers really searching on Google for "PORNOGRAPHY JOHN KERRY OHIO WEST VIRGINIA MARGINS OF ERROR" or something? Can one of you endless guests explain this to me please? This is like the worst website to get turned on in the universe yet I've seen this thread viewed more than any other thread (including my awesome sig) Just for sh**s and giggles, I searched for those terms. Didn't get this page :( ETA: Holy crap, this thread has over 18,000 views Thats.... insane. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on January 18, 2009, 03:20:48 PM Why is it that 95% (over 40 times) of the time I click on "Online Users" this thread shows up on the first page, being viewed by some Guest? Are you "Guest" losers really searching on Google for "PORNOGRAPHY JOHN KERRY OHIO WEST VIRGINIA MARGINS OF ERROR" or something? Can one of you endless guests explain this to me please? This is like the worst website to get turned on in the universe yet I've seen this thread viewed more than any other thread (including my awesome sig) Just for sh**s and giggles, I searched for those terms. Didn't get this page :( ETA: Holy crap, this thread has over 18,000 views Thats.... insane. SEE?! Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Associate Justice PiT on January 18, 2009, 03:28:25 PM Why is it that 95% (over 40 times) of the time I click on "Online Users" this thread shows up on the first page, being viewed by some Guest? Are you "Guest" losers really searching on Google for "PORNOGRAPHY JOHN KERRY OHIO WEST VIRGINIA MARGINS OF ERROR" or something? Can one of you endless guests explain this to me please? This is like the worst website to get turned on in the universe yet I've seen this thread viewed more than any other thread (including my awesome sig) Yeah, I've always wondered why the googlebots were so perverted. :P Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: © tweed on January 18, 2009, 03:39:25 PM most of the guests are robots. a good amount of robots probably look for porn. they get caught up here.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Nixon in '80 on January 18, 2009, 05:16:08 PM I originally found uselectionatlas when I Googled:
"Pornography" "redress of grievances" "sexual gratification" "Freudianomics" I have very specific needs... Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on January 18, 2009, 06:03:24 PM I originally found uselectionatlas when I Googled: "Pornography" "redress of grievances" "sexual gratification" "Freudianomics" I have very specific needs... http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMB_enUS291US304&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q="Pornography"+"redress+of+grievances"+"sexual+gratification"+"Freudianomics" (http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMB_enUS291US304&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q="Pornography"+"redress+of+grievances"+"sexual+gratification"+"Freudianomics") It also takes you to the forum for the Santa Cruz Sentinals and www.physicsforums.com Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on January 19, 2009, 02:59:40 AM GUESTS ARE STILL FREQUENTLY VISITING THIS THREAD
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Middle-aged Europe on January 19, 2009, 08:56:16 AM Pictures please.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Nixon in '80 on January 20, 2009, 05:02:17 AM Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Person Man on January 20, 2009, 10:43:04 AM Gee... uh....pornography....
I haven't used pornography for two weeks. It feels kinda wierd... Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Earth on January 24, 2009, 11:12:22 PM ... The delicate question before us goes beyond the legal justification for allowing anyone to speak or write about anything they choose to. It speaks to the moral and ethical ramifications of such an enterprise. Which are? ... Sex is promoted today as a means to an end and not the expression of love between consenting adults. Who's to base what sex should be? Religious institutions? The government? I don't see the need to see sex as purely an "expression of love" to be the only valid one. Pornography portrays sex as some lustful hedonism with little regard for the potential outcome of such an experience. Still, millions of people purchase it for their own sexual stimulation. They believe that since those being filmed are consenting adults there is no harm to anyone. Implied in your wording is the idea there is harm due to that perception. What is it? Assuming there is mutual consent among the actors, what is the difference between paying them to have sex with each other and paying a prostitute to have sex with you? What does it matter? Whether you favor or oppose pornography, it is this country's obsession with sex that is the root of the problem and the unfortunate consequences it produces. Until we as a nation can collectively mature out of this sexual pre-occupation we will be trapped in our own national adolescence. What problem, specifically? Nations have nothing to do with it, biology does. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: The Mikado on January 25, 2009, 01:59:29 AM Earth, the post you're arguing with is over five years old.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Nixon in '80 on January 25, 2009, 03:09:43 AM Earth, the post you're arguing with is over five years old. Last Active: February 19, 2008, 08:15:27 pm Lol. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Earth on January 25, 2009, 07:38:08 PM Whoops. I must've mistaken the OP as a current poster.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 02, 2009, 10:16:41 PM GUESTS ARE STILL FREQUENTLY VISITING THIS THREAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on March 03, 2009, 01:36:10 AM OVER 20k views
WHEN WILL IT END maybe the internet will just close Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Nixon in '80 on March 03, 2009, 03:29:31 AM Google: Pornography
19,800,000 results. I wonder where this thread falls. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on March 03, 2009, 03:45:01 AM Wow, I just googled "pornography" just to see what's up. This search result is the biggest buzz kill of my life.
The first page results are, in order: Quote Internet Pornography Statistics - TopTenREVIEWS A Proposal for a Christian Pornography Pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia News results for pornography - - Utah is a red state when it comes to porn Is Pornography Addictive? Youth, Pornography and the Internet: Can We Provide Sound Choices ... - Google Books Result Librarians in Pornography [???? SHOULD I CLICK ????] Federal Bureau of Investigation - Innocent Images National ... pornography - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary Pornography: Research Advances and Policy Considerations - Google Books Result Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Associate Justice PiT on March 03, 2009, 03:58:22 AM Wow, I just googled "pornography" just to see what's up. This search result is the biggest buzz kill of my life. The first page results are, in order: Quote Internet Pornography Statistics - TopTenREVIEWS A Proposal for a Christian Pornography Pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia News results for pornography - - Utah is a red state when it comes to porn Is Pornography Addictive? Youth, Pornography and the Internet: Can We Provide Sound Choices ... - Google Books Result Librarians in Pornography [???? SHOULD I CLICK ????] Federal Bureau of Investigation - Innocent Images National ... pornography - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary Pornography: Research Advances and Policy Considerations - Google Books Result Click on it! :) Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on March 03, 2009, 04:01:28 AM Attention White Teenage males, don't read this post
Wow, I just googled "pornography" just to see what's up. This search result is the biggest buzz kill of my life. The first page results are, in order: Quote Internet Pornography Statistics - TopTenREVIEWS A Proposal for a Christian Pornography Pornography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia News results for pornography - - Utah is a red state when it comes to porn Is Pornography Addictive? Youth, Pornography and the Internet: Can We Provide Sound Choices ... - Google Books Result Librarians in Pornography [???? SHOULD I CLICK ????] Federal Bureau of Investigation - Innocent Images National ... pornography - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary Pornography: Research Advances and Policy Considerations - Google Books Result Click on it! :) OK *clicks* uh, what's a librariana? My mom's a Librarian at a college I hope she's not a librariana http://www.riverofdata.com/librariana/porn/index.htm it begins with "River Of Data.com" and ends with a bibliography This page will be updated as frequently as possible. Bang the Librarian Hard. PP7315 Campus Lust. SH/105 Chained, Whipped Librarians. BH8197 Degraded Raped Librarian. BH8203 Eager Beaver Librarian. GR2411 Eager to Spread Librarian. PP7351 Eager Young Librarian. PP7354 First Rear Entry. HGL 103 Helpful Head Librarian. PP7480 Horny Balling Librarian. PP7091 Horny Hot Librarian. CB4345 Horny Licking Librarian. PP7245 Horny Peeping Librarian. AB5443 Hot Bed Librarian. DN458 Hot, Licked Librarian. DN492 Hot Loving Librarian. GR2387 Hot Mouth Librarian. GR2365 Hot Pants Librarian. TB1011 Hot to Trot Librarian. PP7190 The Hottest Librarian. LL330 In Heat Librarian. PP7087 Lash the Librarian! BB109 A Librarian Enslaved. BB101 The Librarian Gets Hot. CB4517 The Librarian Got Hot. PP7403 Librarian in Bondage. LB1238 Librarian in Chains. LB1117 The Librarian Licks Big Ones. LE106 The Librarian Loves It. CB4545 The Librarian Loves to Lick. CB4564 The Librarian Slave. LB1302 The Librarian With the Hots. DN 473 The Librarian's Boys. MST-104 The Librarian's Hot Fun. AB5489 The Librarian's Hot Lips. PP7095 The Librarian's Hot Urges. GR2382 A Librarian's Training. BB129 Licking the Librarian. AB5379 Line Up for the Librarian. AB5287 Naughty Voyeur Librarian. PP7273 Nympho Librarian. YW-128 The Oral Librarian. DN 485 Overeager Librarian. PP7270 Raped and Roped Librarian. LB1106 Sally - Sexy Librarian. ILL-1017 Sex Behind the Stacks. LL0338-R Three-way with the Librarian. PP7079 What a Librarian! GR2468 Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Associate Justice PiT on March 03, 2009, 04:11:20 AM I think that was a case of TMI, actually. Maybe clicking wasn't a great idea.
Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Lunar on March 03, 2009, 04:14:11 AM I think that was a case of TMI, actually. Maybe clicking wasn't a great idea. I didn't actually read what I had posted, like most posts, until I was just called out on it. Wow, that's a dirty bibliography. I should include a warning for all of the white teenage males that visit this forum, such that they shouldn't view that list my fav is: The Librarian Gets Hot. The Librarian Got Hot. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Associate Justice PiT on March 03, 2009, 04:23:05 AM I think that was a case of TMI, actually. Maybe clicking wasn't a great idea. I didn't actually read what I had posted, like most posts, until I was just called out on it. Wow, that's a dirty bibliography. I should include a warning for all of the white teenage males that visit this forum, such that they shouldn't view that list my fav is: The Librarian Gets Hot. The Librarian Got Hot. I read the description of The Horny Peeping Librarian. It was humorous to say the least. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it] on March 03, 2009, 10:54:29 AM Quote A Proposal for a Christian Pornography The damned serious of that one tends to be funny. Title: PORNOGRAPHY: scene 1 Post by: bigbadgerjohnny on March 03, 2009, 12:23:14 PM Cut to extreme close-up of sexy librarian's alabaster skin pooling with dimples of sweat. She shifts her weight and her tight-fitting conservatively mannish blouse presses tighter against her voluptuous body.
Cut to announcer: "No force known on Earth can counter the awesome power unleashed . . . when the librarian gets hot!" Begin Bollywood-esque dance sequence complete with 7-veiled striptease number and jets of foamy water from library fire sprinklers. Title: Re: PORNOGRAPHY Post by: Meeker on April 07, 2009, 03:32:01 AM About another 1500 views in one month. Wow.
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