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Title: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on October 31, 2015, 03:42:23 PM
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A Russian airliner has crashed in central Sinai killing all 224 people on board, Egyptian officials have said.

The Airbus A-321 had just left the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, bound for the Russian city of St Petersburg.

Article. (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687139)

Not currently thought to be foul play, though some ISIS types took "credit" for the crash on Twitter.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: dead0man on November 01, 2015, 06:07:25 AM
ahh, that sucks.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Angel of Death on November 01, 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Plane broke up in midair.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 02, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
Apparently the military has detected infared activity over the Sinai near the plane. It might have been shot down after all.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 03, 2015, 03:35:31 AM
Apparently the military has detected infared activity over the Sinai near the plane. It might have been shot down after all.

I'm guessing it was ISIS.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: MaxQue on November 03, 2015, 04:26:44 AM
Apparently the military has detected infared activity over the Sinai near the plane. It might have been shot down after all.

I'm guessing it was ISIS.

Don't be silly, it's clearly the Ukrainians.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Mr. Morden on November 03, 2015, 09:40:54 AM
Apparently the military has detected infared activity over the Sinai near the plane. It might have been shot down after all.

I'm guessing it was ISIS.

Don't be silly, it's clearly the Ukrainians.

My hunch is mid-air collision with MH 370.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Likely Voter on November 04, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/politics/us-isis-planted-bomb-russian-plane/index.html#) is reporting.
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The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

But the official stressed a formal conclusion has not been reached by the U.S. intelligence community.

If this pans out, I believe this would be the biggest ISIS or ISIS-inspired attack outside of Syria/Iraq. 

What will Russia do in response?


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 04, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/politics/us-isis-planted-bomb-russian-plane/index.html#) is reporting.
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The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

But the official stressed a formal conclusion has not been reached by the U.S. intelligence community.

If this pans out, I believe this would be the biggest ISIS or ISIS-inspired attack outside of Syria/Iraq. 

What will Russia do in response?

Send their military to Syria. OK, send more military to Syria.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: ag on November 04, 2015, 04:16:08 PM
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/politics/us-isis-planted-bomb-russian-plane/index.html#) is reporting.
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The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the crash of a Russian passenger jet in the Sinai over the weekend was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

But the official stressed a formal conclusion has not been reached by the U.S. intelligence community.

If this pans out, I believe this would be the biggest ISIS or ISIS-inspired attack outside of Syria/Iraq. 

What will Russia do in response?

Bomb Voronezh.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Green Line on November 04, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
As awful as it is that the bomb theory is becoming more likely, it's somewhat more reassuring to me that this wasn't a case of planes falling apart mid-air due to structural failures.  Thats a terrifying prospect for flyers everywhere


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: YaBoyNY on November 04, 2015, 08:03:54 PM

Invade Chechnya.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Beezer on November 05, 2015, 04:26:53 AM
As awful as it is that the bomb theory is becoming more likely, it's somewhat more reassuring to me that this wasn't a case of planes falling apart mid-air due to structural failures.  Thats a terrifying prospect for flyers everywhere

I don't know, the prospect of Jihadis or ISIS-sympathizers working at airports sneaking bombs onto a plane isn't exactly comforting either. At least when I'm flying with an airline that has a halfway decent reputation I'm pretty sure they've done a good job concerning repairs.


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Simfan34 on November 06, 2015, 09:10:20 AM
Russia appears to be warming to the bomb theory, FSB chief recommends that flights to Egypt should be suspended.

Sinai plane crash: Russia 'should suspend Egypt flights' - www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34743216

As awful as it is that the bomb theory is becoming more likely, it's somewhat more reassuring to me that this wasn't a case of planes falling apart mid-air due to structural failures.  Thats a terrifying prospect for flyers everywhere

Agreed. I'm comfortable saying that I think it would be better if this was the work of a bomb rather than a mechanical failure or pilot error. On a personal level it's comforting to know that the plane didn't fall out of the sky on its own accord due to a tail strike 13 years ago (unlikely considering Airbus conducted the repair themselves) or pitot tubes failing; in essence that the plane only crashed because someone wanted it to. Also it hopefully would encourage Putin to start targeting ISIL more, rather than the Syrian opposition


Title: Re: Russian airliner crashes in Sinai, killing 224
Post by: Likely Voter on November 06, 2015, 10:44:03 PM
I wonder how they did it. The assumption seems to be a lapse in security at the Sharm El Sheikh airport. Was it as easy as just recruiting and/or bribing a single worker? Could that be done at other airports? Hopefully it doesn't just take one ahole to get a bomb onto a plane, otherwise this could be a whole new front for ISIS. Who is going to want to travel to Egypt or anywhere in the mideast?

And of course the loss of tourism dollars is going to hurt Egypt which cant afford it and possibly lead to more unrest (due to more unemployment).