Talk Elections

All convention votes will be held here.

When we get some votes, I'll post them below.  Until then, the thread will be locked.

Ok, ladies and gentlemen, we now have some votes that I would like to bring to the floor.  These votes will last roughly 96 hours, until late Monday evening (Memorial Day)/early Tuesday morning. 

Please either vote Yea or Nay on all of these proposed changes to the Platform/Bylaws.

In the case of our platform on Abortion, please either vote for Option 1, Option 2, or None to keep the platform as it presently is.

Here are the votes:

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1.  Shall we approve the new Bylaws that were proposed in these three posts? (listed below)

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=22563.msg484198#msg484198
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=22563.msg484203#msg484203
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=22563.msg484204#msg484204

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2.  Shall we approve the platform changes on the subject of Drugs within the platform?  Here is the proposed changes (changes in bold):

Drugs

We believe that the so-called “War on Drugs” has done little to stop the supply or demand for illegal narcotics.  We support the decriminalization of marijuana for medicinal and recreational purposes.

We do believe that drugs have a disastrous impact on our society, but that government simply cannot take on the responsibilities that people should take on for themselves. Instead of investing in punishment for drug offenders, we should invest in educating our children of the dangers of drug abuse.

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3.  Shall we approve the addition to the platform on the subject of Criminal Justice?

Criminal Justice

We believe in a strong criminal justice system and support all endeavors to make Atlasia a safe place from intruders and trolls who wish to damage and slander this forum.  To those who wish to destroy our way of life, punishment must be swift and just and its application must be firm and unyielding.

However, we also believe that all accused criminals must be given their rights under the law.  We therefore believe in the rights of defendants to be "innocent until proven guilty" regardless of crime, and believe that all defendants have ample opportunity to due process in a defense of the charges brought against them.

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4.  Shall we approve the platform changes on the subject of Abortion within the platform?  Here are two suggested changes (changes in bold).  Please either vote for Option 1, Option 2 or None in order to keep the abortion platform at its present definition.

Option 1:  (Sam Spade proposal)

Abortion

We believe that too often this issue has been marginalized to two divisive and uncompromising sides. We believe that abortion towards the end of the term of pregnancy is clearly murder; therefore we staunchly oppose "partial-birth abortion" and believe in limiting abortions to the first trimester only, except in cases where the life of the mother is directly affected. We do support the release of the "morning-after" pill as an early means of birth control and we do support the ready availability of preventative birth control to all persons of legal age.

Option 2: (Future Prez proposal)

Abortion

We believe that too often this issue has been marginalized to two divisive and uncompromising sides. We believe that abortion towards the end of the term of pregnancy is clearly murder; therefore we staunchly oppose "partial-birth abortion." As for first trimester abortions, we realize that a person's view on this coincides to their belief as to "when life begins."  Therefore, as a party we will leave it up to our individual members to make their own determination about how they feel on this issue. We do support the release and general availability of various methods of birth control to all persons of legal age without interference from the federal or regional government.

1.  Yea
2.  Yea
3.  Yea
4.  Option 1

1. Yea
2. Yea
3. Yea
4. Option 2

Aye, Aye, Aye, Option 1

Yea, Yea, Yea, Option 1

1. Yea
2. Yea
3. Yea
4. Option 1

1. Aye
2. Nay (I liked the old version better)
3. Aye
4. Option 1 (Sam Spade proposal)

1. Yea
2. Yea
3. Yea
4. Option 1

Aye.


Aye.


Aye.


Option 1.

By a majority of Union membership (7 members out of 13), these provisions have automatically passed:

2.  Drugs:  Yea, by a margin of 7-1.
3.  Criminal Justice:  Yea, by a margin of 8-0.
4.  Abortion:  Option 1, by a margin of 8-0.

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Question 1 needs either 2 more aye votes or 5 more nay votes (3/4 voting in favor, or 1/4 in opposition) before Tuesday to pass or fail for good, so voting is still open on this question.

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Northeast Governor's Race (only Northeast Region members are eligible - Andrew Berger, bullmoose88, ColinW, MAS117, Red NJ Avatar)

Who shall we, the Northeast Regional Committee of the CUPANA choose to endorse for this race, to be held June 3 to 5? 

Union Party members running for this office are in bold.

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MAS117 (UP-NJ)
Max Power (MRLP-PA)
Hitchabrut (ACA-NJ)
Abstain from endorsement

MAS117 (UP-NJ)

I'm sure MAS would appreciate the support, but this endorsement is only for Northeast Region members only.  :)  As per the Bylaws stuff, et al.  I'm just conducting it because MAS is the chairman.

Just a show of solidarity, sir. ;)

MAS117

Your post brought up a good point, and I have made sure it's clear at the top this time.  Sorry.

Thank you Bob.

MAS117 (UP-NJ)

MAS117

The vote on Northeast Governor is hereby closed.

By a vote of 3 for MAS and 0 for everyone else, I hereby declare the Union Party endorses MAS117 for Northeast Governor.

By a supermajority (3/4ths) of an 8 in favor, 0 against vote, the new Union Party Bylaws have passed.  I declare the voting closed.

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Ok, ladies and gentlemen, I shall now open votes for these Senate races:


These votes will last roughly 72 hours, until Friday or so.

As per the rights given to our Mideast Regional Representative, MHS2002, his recommendations on the Mideast Senate race are as follows:

"For the Mideast race, I would personally suggest MasterJedi...  However, milk_and_cereal would also be a good choice for endorsement. Either one would be a good endorsement in my opinion."

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Shall the Constitutional Union Party endorse for Senator...

Mideast Senate
Masterjedi (ACA-WI)
Milk_and_cereal (L-MI)
Abstain
NOTA

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)
MissCatholic (L-SD)
Yaks Hairbrush (I-MN)
Abstain
NOTA

Mideast Senate
Masterjedi (ACA-WI)

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

NOTA for both

Mideast Senate
Masterjedi (ACA-WI)

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

Mideast Senate
A very tough decision.  Both candidates are excellent and good guys.  Therefore...
Abstain

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

Mideast Senate
Abstain

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

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I am opening the vote for Southeast senate endorsement:


These votes will last roughly 72 hours, until mid-Saturday.

As per the rights given to our Southeast Regional Rep (that's me), I fully request we endorse Senator Sam Spade for reelection to the seat.

Southeast Senate
Ben Meyers (ACA-Fla)
Sam Spade (CU- La.)
abstain
NOTA

Southeast Senate
Sam Spade (CU-La.)

Mideast Senate
Masterjedi (ACA-WI)

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

Sam Spade (CUP-LA)

Mideast Senate
Abstain

Midwest Senate
DanielX (ACA-WY)

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I am opening the vote for the Northeast Senate race endorsement:


These votes will last roughly 72 hours, until mid-Saturday, or until a majority of votes have endorsed one candidate.

Members eligible to vote in this endorsement are AndrewBerger, bullmoose88, Colin Wixted, MAS117, and RED NJ AVATAR.

As per the rights given to our Northeast Regional Chairman, MAS117, he fully requests that we endorse Senator Colin Wixted for election to this seat.

Northeast Senate
Colin Wixted (CUP-PA)
migrendel (C-MA)
Abstain
NOTA

Colin Wixted (UP-PA)

Colin Wixted (UP-PA)

Colin Wixted

With a majority of 3 for Colin Wixted, 0 for anyone else out of 5 members, I declare the vote in the Northeast Senate endorsement over and that the Union Party has endorsed Colin Wixted for Northeast Senator.

Southeast Senate

Sam Spade

Northeast Senate
Colin Wixted (for the record)

I have one more vote on a Platform Amendment that I forgot to start Tuesday (whoops).  Changes are in bold:


Education (proposed by Cash, FuturePrez and MHS2002)

Overall, we support the transfer of educational decisions from the federal to the local level.  We encourage regional governments to support and encourage quality public schools open to all families; however, we believe that it is a supreme contradiction that wealthy parents get a choice of where to send their kids to school while other families do not get such a choice. Regions should provide educational access vouchers for low-income families to have choice in education and formation of charter schools should be encouraged by regional governments.

Please vote either Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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As to the schedule of votes left.  Once King/John Dibble figure out their arrangement by Friday, we'll start the Presidential nomination process.  At that same time, I will start a vote on the National Chairman and any Regional Chairman votes potentially (though I see none on the horizon).

After that, I will invite the nominated parties to speak and we will wrap things up.

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As for right now, the votes still open are for:
Mideast Senate
Midwest Senate
Education Platform Amendment
(for SE members) Southeast Senate endorsement

Aye on the Platform Amendment

Aye to the Platform Amendment

Aye to Platform Amendment

Aye on education platform amendment.

Aye to education!

The Midwest and Mideast Senate endorsement votes are now closed.

In the Mideast, the Union Party chooses to abstain from endorsing anyone in this race.

In the Midwest, the Union Party chooses to endorse DanielX (ACA-WY) for that Senate race.

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Ongoing votes are still:

Education Platform Amendment, currently passing 6-0 in favor.
(SE members only)SE Senate endorsment, currently with 2 votes for Sam Spade.

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I am opening the vote for the Presidential Nomination of the Union Party and for the National Chairmanship of the Union Party.

These votes will last roughly 72 hours, until mid-Monday, or until a majority of votes have endorsed one candidate.

All Union Party members in good standing are eligible to vote in these endorsements.

In the National Chairman vote, please vote for the candidate who you wish to support.  Write-ins are acceptable here.

In the Presidential nomination vote, please vote for the ticket you support, Abstain or NOTA.

As per my obligations here, I will remind y'all that Union Party member MHS2002 is the Vice-Presidential candidate of the Keystone Phil/MHS2002 ticket (his name will be bolded) and that King, Presidential candidate of the King/John Dibble ticket, is caucusing with the Union Party in the Senate.

That is all.

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President/Vice President
Harry (FL-MS)/Ebowed (FL-SC)
Jesus (JCP-WA)/? (no VP)
John F. Kennedy (AMRLP-CA)/Ernest (AMRLP-HI)
Keystone Phil (ACA-PA)/MHS2002 (UP-VA)
King (LIAP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)
Siege40 (IL-VT)/Emsworth (IL-NV)
Supersoulty (F-PA)/WMS (F-NM)
Abstain
NOTA

National Chairman
Sam Spade
Write-in

One problem Sam. You forgot King/Dibble.

hehe, whoops.  :)  It's fixed now.

President/Vice President
Keystone Phil (ACA-PA)/MHS2002 (UP-VA)

National Chairman
Sam Spade

King (LIAP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)

Sam Spade

President/Vice President
King (LIAP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)


National Chairman
Sam Spade

President/Vice President
Keystone Phil (ACA-PA)/MHS2002 (UP-VA)

National Chairman
Sam Spade

President/Vice President
King (LIAP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)


National Chairman
Sam Spade

I have returned to the CUP because the party code of LIAP scared me..

President/Vice President
King (UP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)

National Chairman
Sam Spade

President/Vice President
King (UP-VT)/John Dibble (L-GA)

National Chairman
Sam Spade

President/Vice President
Keystone Phil (ACA-PA)/MHS2002 (UP-VA)

National Chairman
Sam Spade

The voting booth for Southeast Senate endorsement is now closed.

By a vote of 2-0, the Constitutional Union Party endorses Sam Spade for Southeast Senate.

I would like to thank the Southeast Regional committee and the Union Party for its endorsement.

I hereby declare our vote on the Education platform revision closed.

By a 6 aye, 0 nay, 0 abstain vote, we have passed this revision.

For all Union Party members who have not voted, y'all have roughly 24 more hours to vote in the Presidential nomination and National Chairman votes.

These will be the final votes of the convention.

President:  Harry (FL-MS)/Ebowed (FL-SC) (must have at least one strange vote)
National Chairman:  Sam Spade

Anyway, I left this open six hours longer than I should have.  Oh well..  :)

The Union Party endorses for President/Vice President

King/John Dibble

The Union Party chooses to re-elect me for the post of National Chairman (I'm quite relieved)  :)

All of the votes are now closed for the Union Party Convention, and I will lock the thread after this message. 

After King and John Dibble speak, we can go home.

Now that we have a challenger in the SE gov race, how should we proceed with an endorsement and voting? Is this gub election the same dates as the Pres? I'm prepared with a recommendation for Governor Dubya.

This time around, the Governor's election is the same date as the Federal election, the third weekend of June, so we can have an endorsement vote anytime.

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I am opening the vote for Southeast gubernatorial endorsement:


These votes will last roughly 72 hours, until mid-Wednesday.

As per the rights given to our Southeast Regional Rep (that's me), I fully request we endorse Governor Dubya for reelection to the seat.

Southeast Governor
Dubya (ACA-TX)
Statesrights (I- SC)
abstain
NOTA

Southeast Governor
Dubya (ACA-TX)

NOTA

Southeast Governor
Dubya (ACA-TX)

Southeast Governor
Dubya (ACA-TX)

StatesRights is registered as an independent, Cash.

Oops- fixed.

Can I vote?  If so, Dubya (ACA-TX).

Southeast Governor
Dubya (ACA-TX)

(If I can vote)

As I read the rules, since the SE has more than one member, we are a Resional Association, and only SE CUP members may vote. But it may be that we don't technically have a "regional association" and the national membership can vote. Sam?

I think StatesRights is still registered in SC, IIRC.

The SE branch of the CUPANA is a Regional Association, and therefore can conduct its own endorsements on any regional race.  Cash can start votes on those races at any time he wishes to.  It is under the five-day mark before an election, so I could have taken over the vote to be among National membership if I wanted to, but I didn't, so the long and short of it is this is a SE Regional Association endorsement to be conducted among the 4 SE Association members (me, Cash, htmldon and The PrezMex). 

Since Dubya has a majority of the membership in support, he will win the endorsement anyway and this vote can be closed as soon as Cash wants to.

As a rule, any National Association votes will be opened by me, any Regional Association endorsements will be opened by the Regional Chairman, unless special circumstances apply.

Thanks, Sam.

Guys, even though your votes aren't official, it's good to know you agree with us in the SE.

With a majority of Southeast members voting, I'll close this vote and announce our endorsement of Governor Dubya for re-election.