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Title: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Miles on May 17, 2016, 04:18:21 PM Link. (http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/illinois-playbook/2016/05/city-calls-airport-change-backwards-poll-shows-rauner-numbers-upside-down-edgars-support-for-kirk-214327)
Quote RAUNER NUMBERS 'UPSIDE DOWN' -- Public Policy Polling was in the field for SEIU Health Care, looking specifically at five legislative districts where Republicans are incumbents. The surveys looked at Gov. Bruce Rauner’s approval numbers and asked about wages, policy issues and funding for child care. Remember SEIU Health Care is still in contract negotiations with the governor. An accompanying memo reads: “Rauner’s approval numbers were upside down. Fifty-one percent of voters in the 99th District, where the State Capitol is located, said Rauner was doing a bad job, compared to 32% who said good. He notched similarly dismal numbers in two downstate districts and one Chicago area district. In a northern suburban district voters offered a split verdict, 40% good versus 37% bad, but expressed serious reservations about positions taken by the legislators. Approvals: HD20 - 34/48 HD61 - 40/37 HD95 - 30/46 HD99 - 32/51 HD115 - 27/50 It's a shame IL has gone from having one of the best Governors to one of the worst. Another sad reminder that the People's Pat would be doing much better than this amateur. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Higgs on May 17, 2016, 11:09:59 PM How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors?
Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: smoltchanov on May 18, 2016, 08:41:32 AM How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors? He wasn't. But Rauner isn't too... Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Sir Mohamed on May 18, 2016, 09:03:15 AM That guy is toast for 2018.
Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: smoltchanov on May 18, 2016, 09:07:32 AM That guy is toast for 2018. The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Sir Mohamed on May 18, 2016, 09:45:05 AM That guy is toast for 2018. The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: smoltchanov on May 18, 2016, 10:50:38 AM That guy is toast for 2018. The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014. "Templates" are always bad. Illinois elects Republicans frequently enough to consider each situation separately. Massachusetts is even more blue, and that didn't prevent Baker not only from being elected, but being most popular governor in US (only Hogan is "on par", and again - Republican in deep blue state) Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Drew on May 18, 2016, 12:29:39 PM That guy is toast for 2018. The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014. Also, Brady in 2010 was more conservative, particularly on social issues, unlike Rauner who has been rather moderate socially. I remember Judy Baar Topinka (RIP) saying that you had to be socially moderate to win statewide in IL if you're GOP. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Gass3268 on May 18, 2016, 12:56:43 PM Haha, nothing will make me happier than Bruce Rauner losing!
Revenge for the People's Pat! Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: RINO Tom on May 18, 2016, 08:16:09 PM The People's Pat left his people in a very terrible situation, and it's comical to hear people from other states comment with blind partisan hackery on IL politics, not appreciating the mess this state is in.
EDIT: And what does Rauner get for literally trying to do ANYTHING differently to try to improve our shltty situation?? A boneheaded legislature blocking his every move and an electorate who yearns for the days of ... Pat Quinn, LOL. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: publicunofficial on May 18, 2016, 09:06:26 PM How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors? He's not in prison, so that automatically makes him the best Illinois governor this century. Rauner hasn't been charged yet, but there's still plenty of time between now and his 2018 defeat. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Sir Mohamed on May 19, 2016, 09:11:44 AM Haha, nothing will make me happier than Bruce Rauner losing! Revenge for the People's Pat! The People's Pat won't be back. If he really runs, I expect him to lose the primary. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on May 19, 2016, 11:47:05 AM I'm not so sure that Rauner is DOA for 2018. From what I've seen and heard, Madigan is being blamed for the budged impasse as much as he is. If Rauner runs for reelection, he can run on this and attack Madigan as leading a "do-nothing" legislature, a la Truman 1948. If he does that then his chances at reelection are very good.
In 2006, Jennifer Granholm did the same thing here in Michigan. She recognized that more people blamed Bush for Michigan's sour economy than her, and she played it to her advantage, winning reelection handily. I suspect that Rauner will win reelection in much the same way. It's a shame IL has gone from having one of the best Governors to one of the worst. Another sad reminder that the People's Pat would be doing much better than this amateur. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Coolface Sock #42069 on May 23, 2016, 10:05:03 PM I don't think you can even call Rauner an underdog for reelection at this point (it's too early), but reelecting Rauner would mean the end of the Madigan cartel in Illinois and might even cause Madigan to retire.
Then again, I liked Pat Quinn a lot as governor. He inherited a huge mess and did, in my view, the best he could with the hand he was dealt. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: publicunofficial on May 24, 2016, 12:47:45 AM FWIW, there are strong rumors of Dick Durbin being recruited to run against Rauner in 2018.
Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on May 24, 2016, 02:22:40 AM Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration.
Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Zioneer on May 24, 2016, 03:06:28 AM Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration. If Strom Thurmond could last to nearly age 100 in office, 74 year old Durbin could go for two terms as Governor, easily, if he wants to stay in politics so badly. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: publicunofficial on May 24, 2016, 03:57:59 AM Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration. All three candidates currently running for President will be 70+ in January. Age isn't really big obstacle to politicians seeking office. Also, if Durbin is never going to be Majority/Minority Leader now that Schumer has taken the spot (And Schumer has given hints that he might not even allow Durbin to keep his Whip position, mentioning that Patty Murray could take the job), then he might as well cap of his political career with a run at Governor. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: President of the great nation of 🏳️⚧️ on May 24, 2016, 06:58:15 AM All three candidates currently running for President will be 70+ in January. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Sir Mohamed on May 24, 2016, 09:22:08 AM I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so.
Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: This account no longer in use. on May 24, 2016, 09:30:27 AM I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so. I heard the Obama family is staying in DC until Malia and Natasha graduate high school. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Sir Mohamed on May 24, 2016, 09:34:56 AM I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so. I heard the Obama family is staying in DC until Malia and Natasha graduate high school. Yep, she won't run. She was considered as a possible candidate for the IL-Senate this year, but declined last year. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Illiniwek on May 24, 2016, 12:35:07 PM Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner. Durbin would destroy Rauner. Downstaters love him. Cook and the suburbs would come easy. It wouldn't be anywhere close. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on May 24, 2016, 12:53:49 PM Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner. Durbin would destroy Rauner. Downstaters love him. Cook and the suburbs would come easy. It wouldn't be anywhere close. () https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Illinois,_2014 Rauner /=/ Oberweis. Durbin is one of the few IL Dems that I actually like, FWIW. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on May 24, 2016, 12:58:06 PM Are you implying that Oberweis is a better candidate than Rauner? This guy didn't even run a campaign and still won downstate/the collar counties. Oberweis was basically generic R. Rauner could be worse than that depending on how the next two years go. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Miles on May 24, 2016, 07:08:56 PM Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner. Durbin would destroy Rauner. Downstaters love him. Cook and the suburbs would come easy. It wouldn't be anywhere close. I don't think it would be close, but it looked pretty bad that Durbin didn't carry CD12. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Mr. Illini on May 24, 2016, 07:17:15 PM I don't think you can even call Rauner an underdog for reelection at this point (it's too early), but reelecting Rauner would mean the end of the Madigan cartel in Illinois and might even cause Madigan to retire. Then again, I liked Pat Quinn a lot as governor. He inherited a huge mess and did, in my view, the best he could with the hand he was dealt. Did you vote for the People's Pat?! Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner. Then no one would be guaranteed to beat Rauner. Durbin is very well-liked in this state. Durbin and Lisa Madigan would be two solid bets to beat him. Anyone else will have a good shot but will be more contested. Unless Jesse White, also beloved, threw his hat in. Using 2014 as an example is poor. Durbin won by 10+ percent in a terrible climate for Dems in the state. No one expected Schneider to lose in IL-10, but he did as a result of the climate. IL-13 and IL-12, supposed to be close races, were blowouts. The fact that Durbin still cleaned up is a testament to his strength. Title: Re: PPP: Rauner unpopular in several HDs Post by: Green Line on May 24, 2016, 10:35:13 PM Durbin was also running in a federal election. Illinois is much more favorable for Republicans in state-level races. Durbin v Rauner would start as a tossup.
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