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Atlas Fantasy Elections => Atlas Fantasy Government => Topic started by: Clark Kent on August 03, 2016, 02:31:13 PM



Title: 1019 - Failed
Post by: Clark Kent on August 03, 2016, 02:31:13 PM
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Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016

1. No court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than seventy-two hours of community service and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do not involve a person under twenty-five years of age.
2. No court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than one month in prison, one year of probation, seventy-two hours of community service, and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do involve a person under twenty-five years of age.
3. The provisions of this act shall go into effect upon becoming law.

Sponsor: Rep. Darthebearnc (L-WI)


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on August 03, 2016, 05:31:22 PM
I like it.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 03, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
*shouting from gallery* Free the reefer!

(Or at least remove the federal prohibition so that regions can legalize it without federal encroachment.)


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 03, 2016, 05:42:51 PM
This bill seems unconstitutional. However, I agree with a.scott that we could simply remove the federal ban on it.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Dereich on August 03, 2016, 06:00:15 PM
*shouting from gallery* Free the reefer!

(Or at least remove the federal prohibition so that regions can legalize it without federal encroachment.)

That second part would be constitutional. The rest? Telling the regions what they can and cannot ban is legally uhh...lets just say it provides a good example of why governments hate federalism and always try to take away powers from states and local governments.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Classic Conservative on August 04, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
I won't support this bill.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 04, 2016, 07:28:52 PM
Yeah, Rep. Dar, I would like to propose an amended version:
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Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016

1. No federal court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than seventy-two hours of community service and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do not involve a person under twenty-five years of age.
2. No federal court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than one month in prison, one year of probation, seventy-two hours of community service, and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do involve a person under twenty-five years of age.
3. The federal prohibition on the production, sale, and consumption of marijuana shall be repealed.
34. The provisions of this act shall go into effect upon becoming law.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on August 04, 2016, 07:55:09 PM
Could the regions still keep it illegal if they so choose in this legislation?


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 04, 2016, 08:49:55 PM
Could the regions still keep it illegal if they so choose in this legislation?
Not in the original bill, but they should be able to in the amendment.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: / on August 04, 2016, 09:13:28 PM
I find the amendment unfriendly.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: / on August 04, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
I'm sorry, I misspelled "friendly" in the original post.

I find the amendment unfriendly.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 04, 2016, 09:41:37 PM
what does it mean "when said actions (do/don't) involve a person under twenty-five years of age" ?


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 07, 2016, 10:58:59 AM
what does it mean "when said actions (do/don't) involve a person under twenty-five years of age" ?
My understanding is that, if a marijuana-related offense (eg. smoking in a location where it is illegal) involves a person under 25, they may only serve a maximum of one month, and only a maximum of 3 days if no person involved is under 25.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 07, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
what does it mean "when said actions (do/don't) involve a person under twenty-five years of age" ?
My understanding is that, if a marijuana-related offense (eg. smoking in a location where it is illegal) involves a person under 25, they may only serve a maximum of one month, and only a maximum of 3 days if no person involved is under 25.

It looks like we are allowing imprisonment of people under 25 but not over 25.



Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 07, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
what does it mean "when said actions (do/don't) involve a person under twenty-five years of age" ?
My understanding is that, if a marijuana-related offense (eg. smoking in a location where it is illegal) involves a person under 25, they may only serve a maximum of one month, and only a maximum of 3 days if no person involved is under 25.
It looks like we are allowing imprisonment of people under 25 but not over 25.
Doesn't look like it to me. I suppose we could make it clearer, since Section 1 doesn't mention prison at all.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: / on August 07, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
Yeah, the bill is a bit unclear about that, so I'm amending it as follows:

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Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016

1. No court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than seventy-two hours of community service and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do not involve a person under twenty-five years of age.
2. No court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than one month in prison, one year of probation, seventy-two hours of community service, and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products when said actions do involve a person under twenty-five years of age. This section does not apply to people under twenty-five years of age.
3. No court in the Republic of Atlasia may issue a sentence more severe than seventy-two hours of community service and seventy-two hours of drug abuse prevention or education classes against somebody accused of any charge related to the possession, use, administration, acquisition, sale, manufacturing, or transportation of marijuana or marijuana products if the accused is under twenty-five years of age.
4. The provisions of this act shall go into effect upon becoming law.

Now, the punishments set forth in Section 2 only apply to the people distributing marijuana to under-twenty-five year olds, not the under-twenty-five year olds themselves. People under 25 who use marijuana are subject to the same punishments listed in Section 1 and no more.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 09, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
Now it's even more confusing.

Can we just scrap this and legalize marijuana at the federal level?


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 16, 2016, 10:27:58 PM
Now it's even more confusing.

Can we just scrap this and legalize marijuana at the federal level?
We can't keep the regions from banning it, though. But yeah, let's repeal the federal prohibition.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 18, 2016, 06:35:37 PM
After looking around a little, it appears that the marijuana prohibition is a DEA rule, and can (and probably should) be repealed via executive order. I am looking for a motion to table this bill, as I don't believe that the Speaker can motion to table it.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Classic Conservative on August 18, 2016, 07:32:05 PM
I motion to table


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 18, 2016, 07:50:40 PM
Looking for a second...


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: / on August 18, 2016, 07:55:04 PM
I refuse to see this bill tabled.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 18, 2016, 07:57:14 PM
After looking around a little, it appears that the marijuana prohibition is a DEA rule, and can (and probably should) be repealed via executive order. I am looking for a motion to table this bill, as I don't believe that the Speaker can motion to table it.
That sounds like a much more preferable option. Mr. President? :P


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 20, 2016, 01:36:12 PM
Can we substitute a flat legalization through amendment, or would that require a separate bill?


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 20, 2016, 02:16:08 PM
Can we substitute a flat legalization through amendment, or would that require a separate bill?
We could, but again, this seems to fall under the DEA's jurisdiction, so I feel it's best to leave this to the President.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 25, 2016, 11:56:29 AM
Alright, since this bill clearly refuses to be tabled, we will now move to a final vote. Representatives have 72 hours to vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 25, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
NAY


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 25, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
nay


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Classic Conservative on August 29, 2016, 07:30:48 PM
Nay


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: NeverAgain on August 29, 2016, 07:43:42 PM
Aye.


Title: Re: 1019 - Maximum Sentences for Marijuana Act of 2016
Post by: Clark Kent on August 29, 2016, 08:52:02 PM
This bill has failed 2-1, with Reps. Classic Conservative and NeverAgain voting past the voting period, and Reps. JCL, Haslam2020, Peebs, and Evergreen not voting.