Talk Elections

Any thoughts on why almost a quarter of Arkansas Democrats voted for LaRouche in the 2000 primary?  I would think Gore would've been particularly strong in Arkansas since he was from a neighboring state.

WHY, would anyone support LaRouche?? He is a secterist as far as I know.

Probably because they were looking for an alternative after Bradley dropped out.  I don't know.

Yes, but he is a nutcase!

Who-LaRouche?  Because Bradley isn't a nutcase.

Yes, LaRouche.

I think this is the eigth time LaRouche has run fo president.  He is running against Dean in the EC primary.  A heated rivalry it is!

Here are the websites of some garbage candidates:

www.ashby2004.com: Moderate Republicans for Ashby!
www.justicedemanded.org: John Bosa
www.milliehoward.com
www.rigazioforpresident.com
www.runsomeidiot.com: Jim Taylor

All of these "candidates" are "challenging" George W. bush in the New Hampshire Republican primary.

Millie Howard had 75 000 000 dollars as her goal. Lol.
That Ashby guy didn't seem so bad though (stupid for trying to run against Budh yes, but not bad)...I guess I am naive *sigh*.

The run some idiot site is pretty funny.  Check it out.

Also, one isn't accepting donations, I don't remember who it is though....

Arkanasas is a socially conservative state, it is not for the massive environmental extremism that Gore has written about and his stand on guns hurt him as well.

Arkansas is a conservative state, it went Dem in 1976 for it's own southerner, Carter, and didn't do that again for 16 years.

look at the Gov and 2 senators, 1 GOP and 2 Dems but all are moderates to conservatives.

I knew Hutchinson would lose in 2002 as he was a bit underhanded in divorcing his wife an marrying his aide, that was THE issue in the race.

Gore lost AR because he upset/distanced himself from Clinton.

Well i do think that was ONE factor, but I think the conservative nature of the people pf Arkansas was a bigger reason.

to expand on that, Gore lost in HIS homestate of TN.  he was the favorite son there and so no excuses outside f his liberal policies to blame in a conservative state.

Huh?  Gore won his home state... he carried Washington DC with no problems.

Let me be as clear as I can be:
GORE WAS NOT FROM TENNESSEE.  He was born in DC.

This has been a public service announcement courtesy of the residents of Tennessee who helped elect our President, George W. Bush and who are sick and tired of having Algore called "our favorite son".  As Tennessee helped to create Texas, we like to think of George W. Bush as our favorite son by proxy, thank you very much.

Bush lost his home state: Connecticut

This is interesting. Exactly how is a "home state" defined? Current resident, right? Nixon actually changed home states from 1960 to 1968.

Yes, by residency.  Bush was born in Connecticut, Dean in New York, and so on.

By the state they voted for themselves in?

Wherever they're registered to vote.  Like Cheyney--WY

Bill would argue that he could have won the state for Gore, but Gore told him to stay away. I think Bush would have lost the state anyway, but it was competitive and I think it may have been more competitive had Clinton just moved there practically-- every other weekend for two months or something.  Even just figuring out a gameplan to get a historic turnout of black voters with Clinton would have been good for Gore.

1804: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina lost home state and election to Thomas Jefferson.

1808: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina lost home state and election to James Madison.

1816: Rufus King of New York lost home state and election to James Monroe.

1840: Martin Van Buren of New York incumbent President lost home state and election to William Henry Harrison.

1844: James Polk of Tennessee lost home state to Henry Clay, but won the election.

1852: Winfield Scott of New Jersey lost home state and election to Franklin Pierce.

1856: John Fremont of California lost home state and election to James Buchanan.

1856: Millard Fillmore of New York former President lost home state to John Fremont, who lost election to James Buchanan.

1860: Stephen Douglas of Illinois lost home state and election to Abraham Lincoln, who was also from Illinois. (either way, a candidate would lose his home state, of course)

1860: John Breckinridge of Kentucky lost home state to John Bell, who lost the election to Abraham Lincoln.

1864: George McClellan of New York lost home state and election to Abraham Lincoln.

1872: Horace Greeley of New York lost home state and election to Ulysses S. Grant.

1880: Winfield Hancock of Pennsylvania lost home state and election to James Garfield.

1888: Grover Cleveland of New York incumbent President lost home state and election to Benjamin Harrison.

1892: Benjamin Harrison of Indiana incumbent President lost home state and election to former President Grover Cleveland.

1900: William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska lost home state and election to William McKinley.

1904: Alton Parker of New York lost home state and election to Theodore Roosevelt, who was also from New York (either way, a candidate would lose his home state).

1912: Theodore Roosevelt of New York former President lost home state and election to Woodrow Wilson.

1912: William Howard Taft of Ohio incumbent President lost home state and election to Woodrow Wilson.

1916: Woodrow Wilson of New Jersey incumbent President lost home state to Charles Hughes, but won the election.

1920: James Cox of Ohio lost home state and election to Warren Harding, who was also from Ohio (either way, a candidate would lose his home state).

1924: John William Davis of West Virginia lost home state and election to Calvin Coolidge.

1928: Alfred Smith of New York lost home state and election to Herbert Hoover.

1932: Herbert Hoover of California incumbent President lost home state and election to Franklin Roosevelt.

1936: Alfred Landon of Kansas lost home state and election to Franklin Roosevelt.

1940: Wendell Willkie of New York lost home state and election to Franklin Roosevelt, who was also from New York (either way, a candidate would lose his home state).

1944: Thomas Dewey of New York lost home state and election to Franklin Roosevelt, who was also from New York (either way, a candidate would lose his home state).

1952: Adlai Stevenson of Illinois lost home state and election to Dwight Eisenhower.

1956: Adlai Stevenson of Illinois lost home state and election to Dwight Eisenhower. (How sad is that-- not only did he lose again to Ike, but he lost his home state twice, too)

1968: Richard Nixon of New York (he moved there after having lost his bid to be CA's governor) lost home state to Hubert Humphrey, but won the election.

1972: George McGovern of South Dakota lost home state and election to Richard Nixon.

2000: Al Gore of Tennessee lost home state and election to George W. Bush.

Are you trying to tell us tha candidates who lose their home states hardle ever wins the election? ;) :)

You can draw your own conclusions...

I thought the main point was that it is not at all uncommon for a candidate to lose his home state, although it has become quite a bit less frequent in modern times. Going from 1972 to 2000 without anyone losing their home state was the longest such streak in U.S. history.

larouche is a cult leader

Yep, we've been pointing that out.

I remember seeing this poll according to which Gore won in all the states where less than a certain percentage of the population (I've forgotten how much, it wasn't 50%) condemned Clinton's extramarital episode. There was one exception either way. Arkansans forgave Clinton but didn't vote for Gore. New Mexicans were the other way round

NM was extremely close though 366 votes i believe.