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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Wiz in Wis on November 04, 2016, 02:49:42 PM



Title: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Wiz in Wis on November 04, 2016, 02:49:42 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/11/clinton-leads-by-5-in-firewall-states.html

Virginia:

Clinton 48
Trump 43
Johnson 4
Stein 1
McMullin 1

Michigan:


Clinton 46
Trump 41
Johnson 6
Stein 2

Colorado:

Clinton 48
Trump 43
Johnson 4
Stein 2
McMullin 1

FYI: These are the final PPP public polls this cycle.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2016, 02:50:03 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/11/clinton-leads-by-5-in-firewall-states.html



Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Ebsy on November 04, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
Good.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: The Other Castro on November 04, 2016, 02:50:54 PM
I'd prefer higher but alright. Clinton's also up in H2H +5 in CO, +6 in VA, +6 in MI.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 02:51:39 PM
Game over.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Person Man on November 04, 2016, 02:52:05 PM
OK. This is what happens if Bubba gets drunk again and doesn't load up his buddies in the back of the pickup...and just forgets to vote. Again.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
hmm, how does PPP compare to Strategic National and Trafalgar?


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Southern Delegate matthew27 on November 04, 2016, 02:53:13 PM
Finally a real poll. Great results!


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Ebsy on November 04, 2016, 02:53:34 PM
hmm, how does PPP compare to Strategic National and Trafalgar?
lmao


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 04, 2016, 02:54:29 PM
Trump below 45% in all 3 is good.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 02:54:35 PM
It is sort of 1-day poll.


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November 3-4, 2016


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Eraserhead on November 04, 2016, 02:55:55 PM
I'm surprised about Michigan.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 02:56:14 PM

Indeed.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
It is sort of 1-day poll.


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November 3-4, 2016

And you give "red hacks" crap for conveniently picked criticism. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: rafta_rafta on November 04, 2016, 02:57:26 PM
are they advocacy polls or public ?


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 02:58:00 PM

These appear to be public.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
It is sort of 1-day poll.


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November 3-4, 2016

And you give "red hacks" crap for conveniently picked criticism. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Lol, I'm using the same arguments as you do ;)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Xing on November 04, 2016, 02:59:03 PM
PPP = Democratic internal = JUNK!

Am I doing this right?


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Ebsy on November 04, 2016, 03:00:06 PM
Yeah they are public.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Wiz in Wis on November 04, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
Also, can a red avatar enter these, as well as the other PPP polls, into the damn database already?


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on November 04, 2016, 03:01:37 PM
hmm, how does PPP compare to Strategic National and Trafalgar?

PPP's personal leanings are Democratic (they are open about this), but historically their polling has been quite good, and they have a long track record.  Several years ago they showed a D-lean in their polling, but this has disappeared in recent years.  At present, 538's pollster ratings gives them a B+ with a bias of R+0.2, based on 383 polls, of which they've called 82% correctly.

Also, their Twitter feed (https://twitter.com/ppppolls/) is usually amusing. :)

EDIT: I'm sure you already knew that, Senator, but I posted it anyway for the less informed. :)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2016, 03:03:16 PM
Clinton continues to dominate the early voting:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_COMIVA_110416.pdf

COLORADO

Of the 73% (514/704) of respondents who said they voted early:

Clinton - 52
Trump - 41
Johnson - 3
Stein - 2
McMullin - 1

SENATE: Bennett - 55, Glenn - 38

MICHIGAN

Of the 32% (306/957) of respondents who said they voted early:

Clinton - 57
Trump - 36
Johnson - 3
Stein - 2

VIRGINIA

Of the 14% (173/1238) of respondents who said they voted early:

Clinton - 63
Trump - 32
Johnson - 2
McMullin - 1
Stein - 0


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 04, 2016, 03:05:30 PM
Thank god we're getting some PPP polls to outweigh all the garbage.  Hopefully NBC pays for some Marist polls for this weekend as well.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
COLORADO

Of the 73% (514/704) of respondents who said they voted early:

Clinton - 52
Trump - 41
Johnson - 3
Stein - 2
McMullin - 1


Going....going....gone!


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: BoAtlantis on November 04, 2016, 03:07:16 PM
:)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: win win on November 04, 2016, 03:08:08 PM
LIES


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 03:09:21 PM

Can't argue with that counter.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: pbrower2a on November 04, 2016, 03:10:13 PM
I was polled.

In case anyone wonders whether these were push polls... there was no mention of the group and no mention of any issues. This poll is good -- very clean.  

Game over, indeed. Donald Trump had to win at least one of these three states, Florida, and North Carolina even if he was winning Iowa.  



Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Erich Maria Remarque on November 04, 2016, 03:10:46 PM
Do they adjust for Shy Trumpers? :P


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: alomas on November 04, 2016, 03:11:50 PM
Looks like Pennsylvania will be do-or-die for Trump.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: psychprofessor on November 04, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
I actually think PPP undersamples Latino's with robo polls. I expect her to outperform her polling avg in Colorado and Nevada from PPP.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 04, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS!!!  I TINGLE WITH POSITIVITY!


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Maxwell on November 04, 2016, 03:19:04 PM
For some reason, every state except for Missouri is within 5 this year.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Maxwell on November 04, 2016, 03:45:03 PM
h2h:

Colorado
50% Clinton
45% Trump

Michigan
50% Clinton
44% Trump

Virginia
51% Clinton
45% Trump

That pretty much shows how over this race is - Trump winning every single undecided still loses.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 04, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
h2h:

Colorado
50% Clinton
45% Trump

Michigan
50% Clinton
44% Trump

Virginia
51% Clinton
45% Trump

That pretty much shows how over this race is - Trump winning every single undecided still loses.

#magicnumber


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: win win on November 04, 2016, 03:45:55 PM
these rigged (D) polls aren't "junk" are they ?


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 04, 2016, 03:51:56 PM
Finally some non-trash polls.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: pbrower2a on November 04, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
I actually think PPP undersamples Latino's with robo polls. I expect her to outperform her polling avg in Colorado and Nevada from PPP.
...oprima en la dos.


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on November 04, 2016, 04:30:09 PM
these rigged (D) polls aren't "junk" are they ?
They've had an R tilt, so don't give me that sh[Inks].


Title: CO: Public Policy Polling: Clinton Leads in Colorado
Post by: ElectionAtlas on November 04, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
New Poll: Colorado President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-11-04 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=820161104108)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 43%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_COMIVA_110416.pdf)


Title: MI: Public Policy Polling: Clinton Leads in Michigan
Post by: ElectionAtlas on November 04, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
New Poll: Michigan President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-11-04 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2620161104108)

Summary: D: 46%, R: 41%, U: 6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_COMIVA_110416.pdf)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 04, 2016, 04:44:02 PM
If anything we could certainly use some more Democratic polling this year. In 2012 the Dem firms (Mellman, Keating, etc.) were among the best and most accurate.


Title: VA: Public Policy Polling: Clinton Leads in Virginia
Post by: ElectionAtlas on November 04, 2016, 04:44:40 PM
New Poll: Virginia President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-11-04 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5120161104108)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 43%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_COMIVA_110416.pdf)


Title: Re: PPP - MI, CO, VA: Clinton +5 in 3 states
Post by: psychprofessor on November 04, 2016, 04:46:44 PM
It would be nice if Democracy Corp made a huge swing state dump that RCP didn't add :-)