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General Politics => Individual Politics => Topic started by: President Johnson on May 07, 2017, 04:35:31 AM



Title: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: President Johnson on May 07, 2017, 04:35:31 AM
I'm curious who's you favorite current leader of a country in the world?

My current favoite after Obama left office is Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern. If elected, Emmanuel Macron would be equal to Kern. Trudeau is also worth mentioing, though he's only #2 in my list.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Edu on May 07, 2017, 06:08:02 AM
Taking into account the ones that I know about

Macri


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 07, 2017, 06:24:34 AM
Uh, well.... Trudeau, I suppose.

Most are pretty terrible right now though.



Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on May 07, 2017, 06:32:50 AM
Antonio Costa, Lenin Moreno, Evo Morales, Tabare Vazquez ... Stefan Lofven? Not a good crop tbh. Add Moon Jaein when he is elected.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: America Needs R'hllor on May 07, 2017, 06:35:03 AM
Uh, well.... Trudeau, I suppose.

Most are pretty terrible right now though.




Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on May 07, 2017, 06:36:35 AM
Antonio Costa, Lenin Moreno, Evo Morales, Tabare Vazquez ... Stefan Lofven? Not a good crop tbh. Add Moon Jaein when he is elected.

Moreno is still President elect.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends on May 07, 2017, 07:34:45 AM
Theresa May, Bill English and Erna Solberg all come to mind.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: LLR on May 07, 2017, 07:43:54 AM
Moreno when he swears in, Rutte or Trudeau for now.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: RogueBeaver on May 07, 2017, 08:21:16 AM
May, then Merkel.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 07, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
Ugh, dunno. I miss Mujica. :( Probably still one of the Latin American lefties left.


Moreno when he swears in, Rutte or Trudeau for now.

Why??


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Santander on May 07, 2017, 12:42:26 PM
Bibi


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan on May 07, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
Francis


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 07, 2017, 12:47:20 PM

Honestly, I'm tempted to agree.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Maxwell on May 07, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
Costa, Trudeau, and Lenin when he gets inaugurated.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: mvd10 on May 07, 2017, 01:10:57 PM
Moreno when he swears in, Rutte or Trudeau for now.

Rutte is a weird choice for you. He isn't liberal in the American sense of the word, he is a centre-right politician (right-wing on immigration, law and order and the economy while progressive on issues like abortion and euthanasia).

Anyway most of the world leaders suck. There are some European centre-right politicians who look decent but I don't really know enough about them to judge. I suppose I have to say Rutte because I'm a member of his party. Turnbull, Rajoy, Kenny and Rasmussen also are FF's


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: SATW on May 07, 2017, 01:35:57 PM
1. Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel)
2. Mauricio Macri (Argentina)
3. Theresa May (UK)
4. Malcolm Turnbull (Australia)
5. Miloš Zeman (Czechia/Czech Republic)
6. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović (Croatia)
7. Abe Shinzō (Japan)
10. Narendra Modi (India)
11. Tsai Ing-wen (Republic of China/Taiwan)
12. Ilham Aliyev (Azerbaijan)
13. Donald Trump (USA)
14. Enda Kenny (Ireland)

Not the most inspiring bunch.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Kingpoleon on May 07, 2017, 01:58:07 PM
Justin Trudeau, Angela Merkel, António Costa, Mark Rutte, Xavier Bettel, Boyko Borisov, and Tsai Ing-Wen are my current favorites. Moon Jae-in will get on the list if/when he wins, and Macron will soar to number one.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on May 07, 2017, 02:47:58 PM
May and Modi


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: LLR on May 07, 2017, 02:49:16 PM

He's a populist-ish centrist-ish. Trudeau is better, for sure. Not a great batch of leaders to choose from, no matter what.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: mvd10 on May 07, 2017, 02:53:26 PM

He's a populist-ish centrist-ish. Trudeau is better, for sure. Not a great batch of leaders to choose from, no matter what.

Rutte (and especially his party) is centre-right. The VVD is one of the more neoliberal mainstream centre-right parties in Europe imo.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: White Trash on May 07, 2017, 02:58:05 PM
Pope Francis, Evo Morales.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: America Needs R'hllor on May 07, 2017, 03:13:29 PM

Tie between Trudeau and Macron now. I wish I could speak proudly of my own country's leader, but alas, Netanyahu is terrible. If somehow Erel Margalit won the Labour election and then formed a government, though, he'd jump to first place.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: ApatheticAustrian on May 07, 2017, 04:55:20 PM
regarding important leaders: Still Merkel. too important für europe and liberalism.



Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 07, 2017, 05:00:41 PM

NO HE'S NOT

Don't be one of those Americans, please.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Mike88 on May 07, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Merkel, Kenny, Löfven, Rutte and Macri. Trudeau... i like him but i don't think he's an effective leader. Also, an honorable mention to Rajoy. Yes, i know, he's involved in many corruption scandals and all of that but i think he has a good PM during the crisis years.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Kingpoleon on May 18, 2017, 03:43:58 PM

He's a populist-ish centrist-ish. Trudeau is better, for sure. Not a great batch of leaders to choose from, no matter what.

Rutte (and especially his party) is centre-right. The VVD is one of the more neoliberal mainstream centre-right parties in Europe imo.

VVD is definitely closer to being classical liberal than populist.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Illiniwek on May 18, 2017, 06:17:04 PM

Ya this is really the winning answer.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Senator-elect Spark on May 20, 2017, 12:34:39 AM
Besides Trump, has to be Theresa May.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Maxwell on May 20, 2017, 12:46:32 AM
Taking into account the ones that I know about

Macri

Macri is probably my favorite world leader who could be described as right of center, mostly because he seems stable enough and is not of the awful "Peronist" tradition.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Blue3 on May 20, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Probably Trudeau, Merkel, Francis


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: DavidB. on May 20, 2017, 02:20:00 PM
May, easily.

VVD is definitely closer to being classical liberal than populist.
The VVD accept the fundamental tenets of the Dutch welfare state, so no, fortunately they are not at all close to being classical liberal. They are, however, pretty populist.

What's more, populism is not an ideology, it's more of a style (Americans don't seem to get this and I don't know why). A party can theoretically be both classical liberal and populist.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Green Line on May 20, 2017, 02:27:00 PM
Enda Kenny.  He brought Ireland back from the brink.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Kingpoleon on May 20, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
Probably Trudeau, Merkel, Francis
IIRC, isn't your PM a score something like -7.50 economics?


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on May 21, 2017, 12:36:12 AM
Antonio Costa, Justin Trudeau, Alexander van der Bellen, Stefan Löfven, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel are all varying levels of acceptable because each has some commitment to democracy, freedom and equality, even if Trudeau, Macron and Merkel are to my right. Some of the Latin American lefties like Evo are fine too, but I'm suspicious of their apologist stances on Venezuela. Lula will be up there when he wins the presidency of Brazil.

Generally, though, most world leaders suck.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: TheSaint250 on May 21, 2017, 06:00:32 PM
Outside of the US, Theresa May.  She'll probably be tied with Sebastian Kurz if he becomes chancellor.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Neo-JacobitefromNewYork on May 22, 2017, 11:38:33 PM
Shavkat Mirziyoyev stock is rising fast, Uzbekistan is developing close relationships with its' Central Asian neighbors after being a total jerk nation under Karimov.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: SNJ1985 on June 09, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
Orbán


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on June 09, 2017, 08:24:43 PM
Modi


And for the first time in decades my favorite leader wont be from a western country

I dont know that many world leaders before 1979 so this is my list of favorite world leaders since then

1979-1981(till the Reagan tax cuts pass): Margaret Thatcher 
1981-1989: Ronald Reagan
1989-1993: George HW Bush
1993-1996(till clinton signed the welfare reform bill): Helmut Kohl
1996-2001: Bill Clinton
2001-2006: George W Bush
2006- 2009: Stephen Harper
2009-Obama
2009(By November )- 2010: Stephen Harper
2010-2016: David Cameron
2016-2017(till yesterday) : Theresa May
Now : Modi


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Technocracy Timmy on June 09, 2017, 08:27:03 PM
Justin Trudeau.


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Beet on June 09, 2017, 08:35:45 PM


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Lechasseur on June 25, 2017, 05:44:23 AM
Viktor Orban


Title: Re: Your favorite incumbent leader (worldwide)
Post by: Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends on June 25, 2017, 06:46:05 AM
Bill English (Prime Minister of New Zealand).