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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Election => Topic started by: SingingAnalyst on July 22, 2017, 11:04:59 AM



Title: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: SingingAnalyst on July 22, 2017, 11:04:59 AM
As a Johnson voter, I'll start (since both Clinton and Trump are "the opposition").

I think Clinton voters (most of them) are intelligent, involved in their community, and socially aware. They have a "big picture" view of society in which the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, but that all parts are needed (infrastructure, business acumen, compassion, etc.) Most also are historically aware that many countries have elected a woman as chief executive, the US hasn't.

I think Trump voters (most of them) are down-to-earth, responsible, patriotic, able to find pleasure in little things. While not the most educated, they have lots of common sense and tend to appreciate what they have.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Coraxion on July 22, 2017, 12:32:22 PM
The mental capacity of Trump supporters isn't lower than that of a banana just yet.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: TheSaint250 on July 22, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
Thank you for allowing America to have the chance to elect a woman president (speaking more to clintons primary supporters I guess). Pretty monumental to see regardless of affiliation


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: VPH on July 22, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
To Trump voters: You're clearly passionate about the direction of the country, and I admire your pining for change, even is I disagree on that direction and how change should occur.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on July 22, 2017, 02:42:17 PM
Trump voters: Some, I assume, are good people.
You're clearly passionate about the direction of the country, and I admire your pining for change, even is I disagree on that direction and how change should occur.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: nclib on July 22, 2017, 03:15:26 PM
To Trump voters: You're clearly passionate about the direction of the country, and I admire your pining for change, even is I disagree on that direction and how change should occur.


I was about to say something like that.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Unapologetic Chinaperson on July 22, 2017, 08:48:36 PM
To Trump voters and GOPers in general: Your devotion to your candidate and party is simply...how should I put it...awesome.

Like 80% turnout among Evangelical Christians? That's nothing to sneeze at.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on August 13, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
Speaking to Republicans in general: y'all are generally heroic defenders of the helpless innocent lives that are unborn, and I admire that, and I share your views on abortion, let's work in a bipartisan manner to save lives!


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: America Needs R'hllor on August 13, 2017, 02:54:20 AM
Speaking to Republicans in general: y'all are generally heroic defenders of the helpless innocent lives that are unborn, and I admire that, and I share your views on abortion, let's work in a bipartisan manner to save lives!

Considering there are pro-choice Republicans, I could say the same about working in a bipartisan manner to preserve women's basic rights and fight for scientific facts and logic.
But anyway, to the Trump supporters: I admire your willingness to ignore what the whole political establishment is telling you to do.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: HAnnA MArin County on August 13, 2017, 05:41:58 AM
I applaud young Republicans for not being deplorables on the issue of marriage equality like their elder elephants. Even in Southeast Missouri, younger people by and large are united on the issue of LGBT rights and preserving marriage equality that transcends party and ideology. Thank you to all the young Republicans for joining with us as allies to fight for equal rights and equal protection under the law. We thank you for all you do for our community.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on August 15, 2017, 11:51:17 AM
I got nothing. You people honestly suck. Just look at what you did.

#SorryNotSorry


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: RINO Tom on August 15, 2017, 12:18:01 PM
I got nothing. You people honestly suck. Just look at what you did.

#SorryNotSorry

I understand your frustration, mate.  However, one of my good friends' dad owns a struggling business.  She's not the most political person in the world, but she trusts and loves her dad, and her dad genuinely believes that a Democrat in the White House is scary for his livlihood, so they both voted for Trump.  They didn't like him and they voted against him in the primaries and I know for a fact she was incredibly conflicted, even saying she cried in the voting booth.  Call her or her dad stupid, I doubt they'd even argue that they're not; they're very humble people, and they try to keep to themselves and don't try to convince anyone that they're super smart, successful or important.  However, she's not a bad person.  She's just not.

Again, I pulled the trigger for Hillary, but a lot of Republican kids with parents like hers sided with their families.  I don't expect you to necessarily sympathize with them, but your recent lumping in of all of those who disagree with you with the worst who disagree with you is dangerous and not indicative of how you used to be as a poster.  I don't try to pretend like I get the harship you've probably gone through and the hatred you've experienced from a lot of the uglier elements of the GOP, but I guess just keep in mind that not everyone is like that who voted for Trump, even if you think that one singular act actually should overshadow everything else (which I guess is a legitimate claim).


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: PragmaticPopulist on August 15, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
To non-Trump Republicans: Thank you for not giving into tribalism and sticking to individual thought rather than mob mentality.

To Trump Republicans: I don't know if you voted for Trump because of your economic position, or you just felt that White people are being marginalized, but I do know this: You're right to be angry about why your life may not be as good as it used to. Distorting facts about the source of your problems isn't gonna help though.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: RINO Tom on August 15, 2017, 02:30:11 PM
To Trump supporters: I get where you're coming from, and whether you voted for the man out of strictly conservative beliefs, an issue with Hillary Clinton or - as many of his "converts" did - a "last chance gamble" at turning around your fortunes or the fortunes of somebody that you love, I'll try not to judge too much.  I also think the majority of you (if we're talking strictly people who cast a ballot for Trump) have been unfairly ridiculed as being just as bad as the worst of you.

To partisan Democrats: I think (most) of you - not the Cora types - genuinely believe that the Democratic Party and its traditional ideals are the vehicle most able to help the needy in society, and I think you think you're doing your part to make the world a fairer place, even if I think your ideas might be a bit naive sometimes.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: 60+ GOP Seats After 2018 GUARANTEED on August 15, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
When they settle on a narrative, they go full out and don't hold back.

Look at the past weekend - they're going full on about the attack. They kept saying Trump supporters are violent/hateful, but they had no real examples (except for that old dude who punched a protester 2 years ago) until this weekend and now it confirms everything they thought to them. Obama or Clinton never once had to denounce terrorist attackers who supported them - but Trump is facing extreme heat for Virginia.

I give them credit for that.

Also I give them credit for their use of courts. Right wingers for some reason never want to use the courts to their advantage and it's annoying.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Xing on August 15, 2017, 02:39:47 PM
I think at least many Trump supporters have legitimate concerns about the future and the current state of society. Many of them are justified in their frustration and anger. To those who did so because the issue of abortion is so important to them... I get that, but I hope that people who refer to themselves as "pro-life" can apply the value they place on life to other issues as well.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: West_Midlander on September 12, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
Generally: Passionate/Good Intentioned (Trump/Clinton)


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: super6646 on September 23, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
The mental capacity of Trump supporters isn't lower than that of a banana just yet.

So you're one of those people?

I got nothing. You people honestly suck. Just look at what you did.

#SorryNotSorry

Sigh*

Anyway, I admire the passion Hillary supporters had in wanting to put the first woman into the white house. I personally have issues with the way she conducts herself, but I do understand people wanting to make history and "break the glass ceiling". I also do feel some sympathy for Hillary (once again, issues with how she conducts herself); winning the PV in 2008 and 2016 but narrowly losing the delegate count and the electoral college must have really hurt.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on September 24, 2017, 07:37:11 PM
the trump voters seem to care about this countries fate and never thought he would not be an ok prez(not talking about the racists)


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: twenty42 on September 24, 2017, 07:59:41 PM
I disagree strongly with almost every issue supported by the Demcratic party's platform(s), but I will say that I am sympathetic to well-meaning Bernie supporters. I think there was a contingent of Democrats in 2016 who, while misguided, did genuinely believe the system was broken and wanted to help fix it. These people knew Hillary was a bad candidate and didn't want her anymore than Trump, but she wound up being their nominee anyway.

In a more general sense, I guess it had to suck for Democrats in their hearts to get blindsided like they did on Election Night. I worked for the Romney campaign in 2012 and I thought with every fiber of my being that he was going to win, and it broke my heart when he lost. It was a very crappy feeling of finality and shock...kind of like your favorite sports team losing an elimination game only much more magnified. I suppose there were some Democrats out there who had pure hearts, so I'd say I'm somewhat compassionate as to how it feels to lose what you feel like is a very winnable election.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Nyvin on September 27, 2017, 08:59:03 AM
Sometimes you guys have good bumper stickers.   That's the best I've got.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: °Leprechaun on September 28, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
something nice about the opposition's supporters


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on September 28, 2017, 08:43:49 AM
something nice about the opposition's supporters
Let me tell you boys something about women. Something about women.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: °Leprechaun on September 28, 2017, 08:46:09 AM
something nice about the opposition's supporters
Let me tell you boys something about women. Something about women.
Now, please, say something else.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on September 30, 2017, 11:13:51 AM
I disagree strongly with almost every issue supported by the Demcratic party's platform(s), but I will say that I am sympathetic to well-meaning Bernie supporters. I think there was a contingent of Democrats in 2016 who, while misguided, did genuinely believe the system was broken and wanted to help fix it. These people knew Hillary was a bad candidate and didn't want her anymore than Trump, but she wound up being their nominee anyway.

In a more general sense, I guess it had to suck for Democrats in their hearts to get blindsided like they did on Election Night. I worked for the Romney campaign in 2012 and I thought with every fiber of my being that he was going to win, and it broke my heart when he lost. It was a very crappy feeling of finality and shock...kind of like your favorite sports team losing an elimination game only much more magnified. I suppose there were some Democrats out there who had pure hearts, so I'd say I'm somewhat compassionate as to how it feels to lose what you feel like is a very winnable election.

I'm sorry dude, but looking at politics like a favorite sports team is disgusting, and is part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now. My democrat friends weren't sad in 2016 because "their favorite sport team lost" - many were sad because they were fearful of what would happen if Trump was elected.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: twenty42 on September 30, 2017, 03:02:27 PM
I disagree strongly with almost every issue supported by the Demcratic party's platform(s), but I will say that I am sympathetic to well-meaning Bernie supporters. I think there was a contingent of Democrats in 2016 who, while misguided, did genuinely believe the system was broken and wanted to help fix it. These people knew Hillary was a bad candidate and didn't want her anymore than Trump, but she wound up being their nominee anyway.

In a more general sense, I guess it had to suck for Democrats in their hearts to get blindsided like they did on Election Night. I worked for the Romney campaign in 2012 and I thought with every fiber of my being that he was going to win, and it broke my heart when he lost. It was a very crappy feeling of finality and shock...kind of like your favorite sports team losing an elimination game only much more magnified. I suppose there were some Democrats out there who had pure hearts, so I'd say I'm somewhat compassionate as to how it feels to lose what you feel like is a very winnable election.

I'm sorry dude, but looking at politics like a favorite sports team is disgusting, and is part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now. My democrat friends weren't sad in 2016 because "their favorite sport team lost" - many were sad because they were fearful of what would happen if Trump was elected.

Go back and read the post again. I wasn't comparing politics to sports...I was using a metaphor to describe the emotion I felt that night. I genuinely believed Romney was going to win the election, and it was a heartwrenchingly final feeling at 11:15 when Obama was pronounced the winner. I also clarified that the emotion was similar, but much more magnified.

I do have a side story to share with you as well...I don't have to tell you this, but I will. I watched the 2009 Eagles-Cardinals NFC championship game with my grandmother who was dying of stage four colon cancer. She was an Eagles fan for sixty years and she cried when the Eagles lost that game, because she knew after that she would never see her beloved Eagles win a Super Bowl. I can respect the fact that you aren't a sports fan, but you should also respect the fact that sports can be emotional for those who are. The consequences of losing a sports game don't compare to those of losing an election, but I'm not going to apologize for having strong emotions for both.


Title: Re: Say something nice about the opposition's supporters
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on September 30, 2017, 04:24:09 PM

Go back and read the post again. I wasn't comparing politics to sports...I was using a metaphor to describe the emotion I felt that night. I genuinely believed Romney was going to win the election, and it was a heartwrenchingly final feeling at 11:15 when Obama was pronounced the winner. I also clarified that the emotion was similar, but much more magnified.

I do have a side story to share with you as well...I don't have to tell you this, but I will. I watched the 2009 Eagles-Cardinals NFC championship game with my grandmother who was dying of stage four colon cancer. She was an Eagles fan for sixty years and she cried when the Eagles lost that game, because she knew after that she would never see her beloved Eagles win a Super Bowl. I can respect the fact that you aren't a sports fan, but you should also respect the fact that sports can be emotional for those who are. The consequences of losing a sports game don't compare to those of losing an election, but I'm not going to apologize for having strong emotions for both.

Thoughts and prayers for your Grandma.

Not sure where you got that I am not a sports fan... I am a sports fan -- my team lost the Super Bowl in a pretty awful way this year (Atlanta Falcons). I was pretty upset but I didn't cry over it. Not that crying over a sport team / election is bad though.

And my point was that politics shouldn't be a sport game. It shouldn't be blue team vs red team that you just blindly follow. It's fine to like a party, but don't blindly follow it. My friends weren't "invested" in Hillary because she was their home girl and they were rooting for -- it was more they didn't want to see what would happen if the other person had the chance to advance their disgusting agenda.