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Title: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Lord Wreath on August 09, 2017, 03:06:14 AM
Discuss elections where the choice of a particular VP helped clinch a state (or the election).


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on August 09, 2017, 03:10:45 AM
LBJ in 1960


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Lord Wreath on August 09, 2017, 03:21:10 AM
One thing I've always wondered was whether LBJ pushed more to Kennedy than just Texas. He was certainly popular, but was he popular enough to win more than just his home state? It definitely had the effect of consolidating the Dixiecrat wing behind Kennedy in 1960 methinks.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: MIKESOWELL on August 09, 2017, 10:36:41 PM
I think Clinton's pick of Al Gore helped cinch Tennessee in Clinton's column and helped Clinton (two Southerners on the ticket) to win a few Southern states and at least be competitive with Bush in the South.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Sumner 1868 on August 09, 2017, 11:27:39 PM
LBJ gave Kennedy Texas in 1960.

Muskie gave Humphrey Maine in 1968.

Mondale kept Minnesota in Carter's column in 1980.

Gore gave Clinton Tennessee in 1992 and 1996.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Kingpoleon on August 09, 2017, 11:34:14 PM
LBJ gave Kennedy Texas in 1960.

Muskie gave Humphrey Maine in 1968.

Mondale kept Minnesota in Carter's column in 1980.

Gore gave Clinton Tennessee in 1992 and 1996.
Polling suggested Johnson actually hurt Kennedy in Texas, and that Shivers, Stevenson, or really anyone else would be better.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Sumner 1868 on August 09, 2017, 11:43:35 PM
LBJ gave Kennedy Texas in 1960.

Muskie gave Humphrey Maine in 1968.

Mondale kept Minnesota in Carter's column in 1980.

Gore gave Clinton Tennessee in 1992 and 1996.
Polling suggested Johnson actually hurt Kennedy in Texas, and that Shivers, Stevenson, or really anyone else would be better.

Yes, but I'm sure the Shivers/Connally wing of the TX Dems would have openly backed Nixon without Johnson on the ticket.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Lord Wreath on August 10, 2017, 12:39:02 AM
I'd also probably add John Bricker carrying Ohio for Dewey in 1944.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: The Arizonan on August 10, 2017, 08:55:28 PM
I've read that Richard Nixon picked Spiro Agnew because he was Southern enough to win Southern votes and yet not too Southern to scare off Northern voters.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: 100% pro-life no matter what on August 11, 2017, 09:32:43 AM
What about Pence?  Not for one state in particular, but for suburban (often evangelical) conservatives in 2016?  That could have easily "saved" Florida, Wisconsin, and maybe Pennsylvania for Trump.


Title: Re: Decisive VP Picks
Post by: Lord Wreath on August 15, 2017, 12:46:11 AM
What about Pence?  Not for one state in particular, but for suburban (often evangelical) conservatives in 2016?  That could have easily "saved" Florida, Wisconsin, and maybe Pennsylvania for Trump.
Good point. It'd be hard to pick one state that he picked up for Trump but he definitely had the effect of consolidating the GOP base around Trump.