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Title: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on September 10, 2017, 04:35:34 PM Quote Creation of the Department of Regional Security Act I. The Department of Regional Security will be established as an official government-run office, in order to handle and act upon NLLC activities and other terrorist activities in the region. II. The highest trusted law enforcement officers and officials, incumbent and former, will be appointed upon request to head the office's operations. This shall ensure integrity for the office. III. A total initial sum of 45 Million Dollars ($45,000,000) will be allocated to the office's budget. These budget expenses will be first be included in the November/December 2017 budget. The budget for this office can be increased or decreased after the initial budget passes depending on recourses needed by the agency and depending on the successes of the office. IV. Once the rate of terrorism in the region has been lowered, the organization can be dissolved upon majority vote of the Assembly and approval of the incumbent Governor of Lincoln. Creator: ReaganClinton20XX Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on September 11, 2017, 01:55:33 AM I would like it if the honorable member was to extend on his reasoning for the bill, as I don't see why this is necessary, now that we know the NLLC is not as big a threat as originally considered to be.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: kyc0705 on September 11, 2017, 11:50:24 AM I would like it if the honorable member was to extend on his reasoning for the bill, as I don't see why this is necessary, now that we know the NLLC is not as big a threat as originally considered to be. I would also like to hear a formal defense of the proposal. This seems needless. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on September 14, 2017, 04:15:59 AM May the honorable member please come forward and explain why he believes the bill is a necessary addition to the regional government?
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on September 15, 2017, 02:06:34 PM May the honorable member please come forward and explain why he believes the bill is a necessary addition to the regional government? At the time of writing the bill, it was to address threats of the NLLC. Now that we know the NLLC isn't that much of a threat, I can agree it isn't all that necessary and should be withdrawn, possibly until a later date. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on September 15, 2017, 04:49:24 PM The sponsor has decided to withdraw the bill.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on October 16, 2017, 02:30:27 PM I would like to consider bumping this bill, in light of the recent terror attacks committed by the "Free the People" organization. Though the event was tragic, we need to do something about it.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on October 16, 2017, 04:11:55 PM Would we have the budget for it though?
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on October 16, 2017, 05:55:54 PM Would we have the budget for it though? Not sure, I suppose that aspect of the bill can be debated. The bill needs a rewrite anyways. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on October 29, 2017, 08:00:12 AM I'm moving this to the first slot on the new revised legislative table (as the current one is rather confusing)
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on October 29, 2017, 11:24:56 AM I'm moving this to the first slot on the new revised legislative table (as the current one is rather confusing) Thanks, this was stuck on the table for a while, needs fixing soon. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on October 29, 2017, 03:12:34 PM FWIW if we want to free up space we could add in the terrorist Designation Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=276069.0) as an amendment to the bill, seeing as they're essentially on the same broad topic.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on October 29, 2017, 06:01:51 PM I would support a merger of the bills.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on October 29, 2017, 06:07:28 PM I would support a merger of the bills. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on October 30, 2017, 05:50:45 PM Quote Creation of the Department of Regional Security,and terror group designation Act I. The Department of Regional Security will be established as an official government-run office, in order to handle and act upon II. The highest trusted law enforcement officers and officials, incumbent and former, will be appointed upon request to head the office's operations. This shall ensure integrity for the office. III. A total initial sum of 45 Million Dollars ($45,000,000) will be allocated to the office's budget. These budget expenses will be first be included in the November/December 2017 budget. The budget for this office can be increased or decreased after the initial budget passes depending on recourses needed by the agency and depending on the successes of the office. IV. Once the rate of terrorism in the region has been lowered, the organization can be dissolved upon majority vote of the Assembly and approval of the incumbent Governor of Lincoln. Terrorist Desingation I. Free the People (FTP, FtP) is hereby designated as a terrorist group. I offer the following amendment Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Lachi on October 30, 2017, 07:03:29 PM I strongly encourage the assembly to agree to the amendment.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 01, 2017, 04:09:26 PM As it's been more than 72 hours since this was re-introduced, I'm going to be opening a final vote shortly if there's no objections.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 01, 2017, 06:41:53 PM I gotta say, Blair, you did a fantastic job amending that bill. I'd like to point out it still designates the office as "an office to handle and act upon NLLC activities," when it should be updated to leave out the NLLC part, and just hilight the general terrorism aspect. I'd also like to ask if the budget is too high.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 02, 2017, 12:19:06 PM I've changed the part you mentioned in the amendment.
If anything I think the budget may be too low; IIRC the last budget had a surplus of $85 billion (and whilst a fair amount of this could get hit by healthcare reform) so I don't think $45 million would be too high, for what is generally a quite expensive job Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 02, 2017, 04:30:46 PM If anything I think the budget may be too low; IIRC the last budget had a surplus of $85 billion (and whilst a fair amount of this could get hit by healthcare reform) so I don't think $45 million would be too high, for what is generally a quite expensive job Okay, so if we were to raise the budget for the new office, how much should it be increased? If we have $85 billion in the bank to work with, we can definitely pump way more into the project. I don't want to overshoot anything, so I'll ask you first. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 03, 2017, 03:01:52 AM Apologies for the late reply; I'm stuck in class, and then on a train for the next 6-7 hours so I should be able to think up some numbers by trying to look at A.) What's been done in the past B.) What the current levels of spending are
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 04, 2017, 04:13:16 PM I'll have to look into the new federal budget being proposed; but I read that a fair amount of anti-terror funding comes in grants from the Federal Government so we wouldn't have to propose a lot more spending; however I'd want to increase the number because on the whole Lincoln includes a lot of high value, and high cost targets/urban areas (Chicago, New York etc)
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 04, 2017, 04:16:21 PM Quote Creation of the Department of Regional Security,and terror group designation Act I. The Department of Regional Security will be established as an official government-run office, in order to handle and act upon II. The highest trusted law enforcement officers and officials, incumbent and former, will be appointed upon request to head the office's operations. This shall ensure integrity for the office. III. IV. Once the rate of terrorism in the region has been lowered, the organization can be dissolved upon majority vote of the Assembly and approval of the incumbent Governor of Lincoln. Terrorist Desingation I. Free the People (FTP, FtP) is hereby designated as a terrorist group. I offer the following amendment; for the sake of Assembly note-keeping, I'm also going to assume sponsorship of the bill Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 04, 2017, 04:28:23 PM Quote Creation of the Department of Regional Security,and terror group designation Act I. The Department of Regional Security will be established as an official government-run office, in order to handle and act upon II. The highest trusted law enforcement officers and officials, incumbent and former, will be appointed upon request to head the office's operations. This shall ensure integrity for the office. III. IV. Once the rate of terrorism in the region has been lowered, the organization can be dissolved upon majority vote of the Assembly and approval of the incumbent Governor of Lincoln. Terrorist Desingation I. Free the People (FTP, FtP) is hereby designated as a terrorist group. I offer the following amendment; for the sake of Assembly note-keeping, I'm also going to assume sponsorship of the bill looks good, I was the original sponsor, but if you'd like to take over, It's all fine with me. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 04, 2017, 06:16:12 PM Oh wait sorry you're the sponsor; I got it confused with the terrorist designation bill and thought that Lok sponsored this one (and that you sponsored the tabled bill) Apologies
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 05, 2017, 04:32:29 PM Apologies for dragging out this bill for even longer but I found this whilst scrubbing through the bills; it's a 2016 act that created the regional security force in Lincoln; thought it would be of some relevance to the debate about this bill.
Quote The Regionalization Atlasian Security Act(TRASA) I. The Department of Northern Defense will hereby be created. II. It will be composed of 10,000 Elite Guards, the top fifth of their class, and 40,000 Defense Soldiers. These will be trained by 5,000 retired veterans and policemen. III. The 50,000 people will be trained in six month cycles, with the top 10,000 graduating after each cycle. They shall be aged 18-25, and their training will consist of strategical thinking, combat skills, and mostly physical conditioning. IV. The people in charge of the DND will set regulations to maintain proper physical state and other necessary functions for the department. V. Everyone who retires or reaches 45 will be offered a pension of ($10,000 * number of decades working here), with an additional $2,000 a year more for up to ten more years as a trainer. VI. The DND may make adjustments to this bill for functionary purposes as it sees fit. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 05, 2017, 07:30:25 PM You know, I had no clue about that bill, but it looks very similar to the one I proposed. If we go forward for this one, should we dissolve the TRASA, or just incorporate it?
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 06, 2017, 04:29:18 PM You know, I had no clue about that bill, but it looks very similar to the one I proposed. If we go forward for this one, should we dissolve the TRASA, or just incorporate it? I actually thought that the TRASA had failed; I think both bills can work as TRASA just seems to deal with creating the Northern Defense Force. I think it would be good to add the Department of Regional Security like the RL US Homeland Security; so it wouldn't need any further money added. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 06, 2017, 05:20:28 PM You know, I had no clue about that bill, but it looks very similar to the one I proposed. If we go forward for this one, should we dissolve the TRASA, or just incorporate it? I actually thought that the TRASA had failed; I think both bills can work as TRASA just seems to deal with creating the Northern Defense Force. I think it would be good to add the Department of Regional Security like the RL US Homeland Security; so it wouldn't need any further money added. Okay, so if I understand this correctly, we eliminate the funding bit all together in this bill and specify it is to work in cooperation with the TRASA, the bill should be good to go Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 07, 2017, 05:27:33 PM You know, I had no clue about that bill, but it looks very similar to the one I proposed. If we go forward for this one, should we dissolve the TRASA, or just incorporate it? I actually thought that the TRASA had failed; I think both bills can work as TRASA just seems to deal with creating the Northern Defense Force. I think it would be good to add the Department of Regional Security like the RL US Homeland Security; so it wouldn't need any further money added. Okay, so if I understand this correctly, we eliminate the funding bit all together in this bill and specify it is to work in cooperation with the TRASA, the bill should be good to go I meant more so that we don't need to add more to the $45 million, or $60 million I put in the amendment. I'd be happy to cut that out if the Northern Defense force already had a spending tag but it doesn't appear to. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 08, 2017, 08:18:04 AM Okay apologies for the delay in doing this but here's what I hope can be the final amendment to this bill.
Quote Creation of the Department of Regional Security,and terror group designation Act I. The Department of Regional Security will be established as an official government-run office which will work alongside the Department of Northern Defense, specifically, in order to handle and act upon II. The highest trusted law enforcement officers and officials, incumbent and former, will be appointed upon request to head the office's operations. This shall ensure integrity for the office. III. A total initial sum of 65 Million Dollars ($65,000,000) will be allocated to the office's budget. The budget for this office can be increased or decreased after the initial budget passes depending on recourses needed by the agency and depending on the successes of the office. IV. Once the rate of terrorism in the region has been lowered, the organization can be dissolved upon majority vote of the Assembly and approval of the incumbent Governor of Lincoln. Terrorist Desingation I. Free the People (FTP, FtP) is hereby designated as a terrorist group. Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 08, 2017, 05:49:12 PM If there aren't any objections this this I'll be hoping to call this to a final vote in the morning.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Adam Griffin on November 08, 2017, 06:56:33 PM I have no major objections to this legislation.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 09, 2017, 05:52:49 AM Sorry I took so long, I have returned and I have no objections to the standing bill.
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: Blair on November 09, 2017, 06:06:08 PM With no objections I open a final vote on this bill.
Aye Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 09, 2017, 08:18:43 PM Aye!
Title: Re: L7.3.1:Department of Regional Security Act Post by: RC (a la Frémont) on November 13, 2017, 08:41:10 AM This vote has gone on long enough.
With 2 Ayes and 1 Abstention, the “Creation of the Department of Regional Security, and terror group designation Act” is passed and will be sent to the Governor. |