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General Discussion => History => Topic started by: PBrunsel on April 29, 2004, 08:25:59 PM



Title: The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: PBrunsel on April 29, 2004, 08:25:59 PM
"I was supposed to be named Harrison Shippe Truman, taking the middle name from my paternal grandfather. Others in the family wanted it to be Solomon, taken from my maternal grandfather. But apparently no agreement could be reached and my name was recorded as Harry S Truman.”
-Harry s* Truman

•   NOTE: Due to the “S” not standing for a name, no punctuation is needed.

Truman is the only president to have such a middle name.

Just an historical fun fact.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: ShapeShifter on April 30, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
Thank You PB for the historical trivia


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 30, 2004, 08:14:48 AM
"I was supposed to be named Harrison Shippe Truman, taking the middle name from my paternal grandfather. Others in the family wanted it to be Solomon, taken from my maternal grandfather. But apparently no agreement could be reached and my name was recorded as Harry S Truman.”
-Harry s* Truman

•   NOTE: Due to the “S” not standing for a name, no punctuation is needed.

Truman is the only president to have such a middle name.

Just an historical fun fact.


;D


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: minionofmidas on April 30, 2004, 08:21:21 AM
But Truman had his name changed later, to Harry Simpson Truman.
Vice president Daniel D Tompkins, however, really had no middle name. He was born Daniel Tompkins and inserted the D during his schooldays, to distinguish himself from his cousin Daniel Tompkins attending the same school.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: ShapeShifter on April 30, 2004, 08:28:10 AM
But Truman had his name changed later, to Harry Simpson Truman.
Vice president Daniel D Tompkins, however, really had no middle name. He was born Daniel Tompkins and inserted the D during his schooldays, to distinguish himself from his cousin Daniel Tompkins attending the same school.

Where do you guys get these kind of information? Please don't tell me from school because then, that would only make me sad. :( :'(


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: dunn on April 30, 2004, 10:49:58 AM
It's S only.

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Harry S Truman (When properly written there is no period after the middle initial "S" for it wasn't in fact a middle initial.  When young Harry was born his parents couldn't agree whether to name him SHIPPER after his paternal grandfather, or SOLOMON after his maternal grandfather.  The letter "S" alone became their compromise.
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Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 30, 2004, 11:44:25 AM
In his signature, he used a period after the S I think.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: PBrunsel on April 30, 2004, 03:43:11 PM
In his signature, he used a period after the S I think.

Yes he did. He commented he did that to not confuse school kids!


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on April 30, 2004, 07:54:45 PM
President Grants name was not Ulysses S. Grant.  His birth name was Hiram Ulysses Grant.  The name change occured when Grant applied to west point.  His recomendation came from Representative Thomas Hamer who erroneously declared his name to be Ulysses Simpson Grant.  Grant found that he prefered the name and stuck with it.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on April 30, 2004, 07:56:40 PM
Gerald Ford's birth name was Leslie Lynch King Jr.  He changed it to Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr. when he was adopted by his step-father.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 7,052,770 on May 01, 2004, 02:53:41 PM
Bill Clinton was originally William Jefferson Blythe IV before his mom remarried when he was young and his last name was changed to Clinton.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on May 01, 2004, 03:06:47 PM
Bill Clinton was originally William Jefferson Blythe IV before his mom remarried when he was young and his last name was changed to Clinton.

I forgot about that.  His real father died face down in a ditch.  He drown in an ich of rain water.  What a way to go.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on May 01, 2004, 03:08:14 PM
Bill Clinton was originally William Jefferson Blythe IV before his mom remarried when he was young and his last name was changed to Clinton.

I forgot about that.  His real father died face down in a ditch.  He drown in an ich of rain water.  What a way to go.

Hell of a shame.  Maybe President Blythe would have been a decent guy.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: Nym90 on May 01, 2004, 03:55:49 PM
The reason that he drowned was because his motorcycle crashed, and he landed face down in the water, unconscious.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on May 01, 2004, 04:07:15 PM
The reason that he drowned was because his motorcycle crashed, and he landed face down in the water, unconscious.

I thought that it was his car.  He had a blowout and the car fliped while he was rounding a corner.  Either way, he have survied with barely a scratch if he hadn't landed in the ditch.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: Nym90 on May 01, 2004, 04:19:13 PM
I'm pretty sure it was a motorcycle, from which one would be more likely to be thrown into a ditch, of course. But yeah, pretty unlucky on his part...


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: PBrunsel on May 01, 2004, 04:26:53 PM
Calvin Coolidge's real name was John Calvin Coolidge. Grover Cleveland's was Stephen Grover Cleveland, and Woodrow Wilson's was Thomas Woodrow Wilson.


Title: Re:The "S" in Harry S Truman
Post by: 12th Doctor on May 01, 2004, 05:00:17 PM
I'm pretty sure it was a motorcycle, from which one would be more likely to be thrown into a ditch, of course. But yeah, pretty unlucky on his part...

The Complete Book of U.S. Presidents says it was a car.