Talk Elections

Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Gubernatorial/State Elections => Topic started by: Sarnstrom on October 03, 2005, 05:43:57 PM



Title: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sarnstrom on October 03, 2005, 05:43:57 PM
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash05a.html?project=elections06-ft&h=495&w=778&hasAd=1&mod=blogs


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 03, 2005, 05:46:16 PM
Rendell only leads Scranton by six. Interesting. Why isn't the frontrunner (Swann) mentioned? Oh wait...it's Zogby.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sarnstrom on October 03, 2005, 05:50:30 PM
Interesting....

Senators:

Kyl leads Pederson by 9%

Hackett leads DeWine by 9%

Klobuchar leads Kennedy by 6%

Casey leads Santorum by 9%

Cardin leads Steele by 4%

Kean leads Andrews by 8%

Nelson leads Harris by 4%

Kohl leads Thompson by 1%

Bingaman leads Wilson by 11%


Governors:

Green leads Doyle by 1%

Blackwell leads Strickland by 1%

Reilly leads Romney by 24%

Angelides leads Schwarzenegger by 8%

Hatch leads Pawlenty by 3%

Rauschenberger  leads Blagojevich by 1%

O'Malley leads Ehrlich by 2%


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 03, 2005, 05:51:04 PM
Hackett leads DeWine by eight. That's really funny.

Kohl only beats Thompson by about a point. Seems reasonable but Thompson won't run.

Kloubacher beats Kennedy by seven.

And Nelson leads Harris by only about four. Same with Cardin vs. Steele.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 03, 2005, 05:52:20 PM

That would actually be a close race. No way there would be an eigth point win either way.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on October 03, 2005, 05:57:51 PM

That would actually be a close race. No way there would be an eigth point win either way.

People might think the poll refers to the father at this point.  And no one know Andrews outside of his CD. 

Is there any real evidence Tommy Thompson might actually run for Senate?  Given the recent string of GOP recruiting failures, I would be shocked if this happened.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 03, 2005, 06:00:08 PM


Is there any real evidence Tommy Thompson might actually run for Senate?  Given the recent string of GOP recruiting failures, I would be shocked if this happened.

He won't run.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: The Duke on October 03, 2005, 06:00:47 PM
I simply don't find these believable.

Hackett leads DeWine by 9%

Klobuchar leads Kennedy by 6%

Nelson leads Harris by 4%

Bingaman leads Wilson by 11%


Governors:

Reilly leads Romney by 24%

Angelides leads Schwarzenegger by 8%

Hatch leads Pawlenty by 3%


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on October 03, 2005, 06:01:20 PM
Rendell only leads Scranton by six. Interesting. Why isn't the frontrunner (Swann) mentioned? Oh wait...it's Zogby.

Swann is mentioned if you click on Pennsylvania.  Rendell leads Swann by only 1.6%, and Piccola by 14.4%.

The site is quite nice...even though its primary source for polling is highly suspect, it mentions polls from other sources and factors them in.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sarnstrom on October 03, 2005, 06:02:57 PM
Hackett leads DeWine by eight. That's really funny.
Hackett lead DeWine in their August poll by 5%.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 03, 2005, 06:03:32 PM
Rendell only leads Scranton by six. Interesting. Why isn't the frontrunner (Swann) mentioned? Oh wait...it's Zogby.

Swann is mentioned if you click on Pennsylvania.  Rendell leads Swann by only 1.6%, and Piccola by 14.4%.


Oh, I didn't see that. I believe the Rendell vs. Piccola numbers are accurate. Rendell vs. Scranton are about right. Rendell vs. Swann...eh...too generous to Swann but alright.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Jake on October 03, 2005, 06:04:06 PM
That's pretty funny. Zogby sucks anyway.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on October 03, 2005, 06:07:24 PM

I wonder why they didn't poll RI,  VT, or MT Senate.  Small states count just as much!


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sam Spade on October 03, 2005, 06:07:56 PM
Zogby Interactive = garbage


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sam Spade on October 03, 2005, 06:15:04 PM
Oh, and one other thing:

Hutchinson over Kirk by 13% (TX) lol.

Hutchinson will get at least 65%, maybe 70%


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Moooooo on October 03, 2005, 06:16:12 PM
Some look accurate while others look way off.  I think Marylands numbers are realistic.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sarnstrom on October 03, 2005, 06:20:33 PM
Some of the numbers are wacky. I really can't understand the polls done on Ohio. Blackwell is leading whil DeWine is losing. I think DeWine is clearly in a better position than Blackwell.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: TheresNoMoney on October 03, 2005, 06:24:09 PM
Despite what people on this board believe, Hackett will be a strong candidate.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: © tweed on October 03, 2005, 06:33:41 PM
Zogby had Tennessee in the Kerry column for most of the 2004 campaign.  Remember, Zogby's strictly entertainment and is GARBAGE in terms of a polling firm. 


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on October 03, 2005, 07:00:09 PM
I simply don't find these believable.

Hackett leads DeWine by 9%

Klobuchar leads Kennedy by 6%

Nelson leads Harris by 4%

Bingaman leads Wilson by 11%


Governors:

Reilly leads Romney by 24%

Angelides leads Schwarzenegger by 8%

Hatch leads Pawlenty by 3%

Arnold has around a 65% disapproval rating. I don't know what's so hard to believe about Angelides being up 8 points.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on October 03, 2005, 08:12:27 PM
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash05a.html?project=elections06-ft&h=495&w=778&hasAd=1&mod=blogs

Cann't comment on most of the allegations by Zogby, but his figues on the Senate 'race' in Arizona are ludicrous.

Kyl will win by at least twenty point (probably thirty).


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Joe Republic on October 03, 2005, 08:17:12 PM
These poll results would be somewhat interesting if Zogby wasn't such a crock of bullsh**t.  I mean come on, is he just making up these numbers?


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: jimrtex on October 03, 2005, 08:56:58 PM
Oh, and one other thing:

Hutchinson over Kirk by 13% (TX) lol.

Hutchinson will get at least 65%, maybe 70%
Bell leads Friedman by 9%.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Max Power on October 03, 2005, 09:22:33 PM
Hahaha Zogby. I like how they want to be taken seriously with Harris behind by 3% and Pederson down by 9%


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Cashcow on October 03, 2005, 09:43:47 PM
South Jersey is proud of Rob Andrews. With the typically Democrat Essex/Union/Hudson votes, he will not lose.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: jokerman on October 03, 2005, 09:58:07 PM
Interestingly enough, the Virginia Gubernatorial analysis shows that Republican Independent candidate Russel Potts is taking away more from would be Kaine (D) voters instead of the Republican Kilgore.  Rural Blue Dogs, perhaps?


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Max Power on October 03, 2005, 10:02:14 PM
Interestingly enough, the Virginia Gubernatorial analysis shows that Republican Independent candidate Russel Potts is taking away more from would be Kaine (D) voters instead of the Republican Kilgore.  Rural Blue Dogs, perhaps?
Uh....Potts is running as a liberal.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: TomC on October 03, 2005, 10:16:16 PM
Interestingly enough, the Virginia Gubernatorial analysis shows that Republican Independent candidate Russel Potts is taking away more from would be Kaine (D) voters instead of the Republican Kilgore.  Rural Blue Dogs, perhaps?
Uh....Potts is running as a liberal.

Yeah, more like urban Greens, social libs. I mean he's at what? 5%?


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Sam Spade on October 03, 2005, 10:20:18 PM
Interestingly enough, the Virginia Gubernatorial analysis shows that Republican Independent candidate Russel Potts is taking away more from would be Kaine (D) voters instead of the Republican Kilgore.  Rural Blue Dogs, perhaps?
Uh....Potts is running as a liberal.

Yeah, more like urban Greens, social libs. I mean he's at what? 5%?

Even though I don't trust a Zogby Interactive poll as far as I can throw it, that is indeed probably a correct analysis, considering what Potts is running on.  MHS2002 knows more on this subject, perhaps he'll enlighten us. 

Expect Potts to take more votes away from Kaine's left than Kilgore's left.


Title: Re: Zogby Polls Governor/Senate
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on October 04, 2005, 10:26:34 AM
I mean come on, is he just making up these numbers?

I think we all know the answer to that