Talk Elections

Post all exit poll data and election results here.

As many of you now there are 5 major races in 2005.  The Virginia and New Jersey Gubernatorial Race.  NYC Mayoral Race. The Ohio and California Speical Proposition Election.

Side note:  There are some other smaller elections like the special election in Maine and the Annapolis mayoral race.  Post those results here, too.

You forgot about NYC.

NYC is a hell hole and not worthy of this thread.  :)

Does anybody know when they'll release exit polls?

should we really trust any exit poll data that may leak out?

probably not, but... :)

They don't even need to do an election in NYC. Bloomberg is going to win by 101 points.

No, but it's fun regardless.  I doubt that any data will leak in such unimportant races nationally.

Isn't it technically illegal to release exit polls until all precincts are closed to voting?

    I just heard there is a big GOP turn out in for kilgore in the solidly conservative areas of west Richmond and Ronoke as well as the rural parts of the state. Also more bad news for Kanie there is a low Democratic turn out in NOVA.   

Source?

Kilgore has this one in the bag. It's over!

My friend in Fairfax County just called me.  He's a poll worker.  He said that he's never seen turnout like this in NOVA -- not even in 2001 with Warner.  He's also getting word that turnout in the southern, rural parts of the state -- where the solid GOP base is located -- is as low as he can remember.  Kaine looks to be well positioned.

Are you being sarcastic or serious?  Ive been out of the loop all day so I have no idea whats going on with turnout and sh**t.

VA results provided by the AP (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/_politics/va_election05/index.html?SITE=VAHAR&SECTION=POLITICS)

Go Kaine, Forrester and Bloomberg! :)

Scoonie's acting "strange," to say the least. Just ignore him.

Cool! According to C-SPAN's website they will be broadcasting the election results:

"On Tuesday night, C-SPAN will report the results of the few elections that are being held around the country today. Expect results and victory speeches from the New Jersey and Virginia governor races, plus news on the the New York City and Detroit mayoral races. All will air on
C-SPAN after the House adjourns."

hahaha . . . take your pick.  :)  Scanning the various news sites, there hasn't been anything released yet one way or the other regarding turnout.

Scoonie decided at some point that he would do his best to emulate a Republican partisan hack.  I don't quite know why.

How does a 15 year old have a friend who's a poll worker in a different state? Smells like crap to me. Kilgore has this one in the bag.

hahaha . . . Either that, or his second personallity has come to the surface.  :)

I knew you would approve, MODU! Now on to a Kilgore victory!

Im reading politicsnj's live blog and they're reporting turnout is very low in Camden.

Who is that good for?

Camden was McGreevey's best county in 2001.

Well, Camden is basically a depopulated ghetto... % wise Corzine will dominate but I don't think high turnout there is particularly important to him.

I got your back.  hahaha

I made mine up.  I'm trying to point out that we can't trust this insider information.  I'm not saying Kevin trumped his up, but I really don't see any reason to believe it's accurate.

True, but a very low turnout in a close election would probably spell serious trouble for him

Yeah.  One of my bosses and I were discussing the "accuracy" of exit polling last year.  She was trying to find some info on how the election was going.  I told her just to wait till 9pm, and there should be a fairly decent trend showing, one way or the other.

That's my county, and it will go heavy Corzine. I'm not sure about turnout, I was unable to work on the campaign today.

Crap. Now the Democrats have a bigger advantage.

I declare Bloomberg the winner. Now onto the other 4.

Crap. Now the Democrats have the advantage.

If you're talking about Camden County (as the post before yours would indicate), that isn't even remotely true. What?

@Fezzy: One town in Camden County with a population greater than 100 voted for Bush. The rest were Kerry

$262 million spent on this special election that Arnold created.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/13110470.htm

Poll Closing Times and Results...

• Virginia: 7pm Eastern | Results (http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/nov2005/)

• Ohio: 7:30pm Eastern | Results (http://www.sos.state.oh.us/Results/RaceSummary.aspx)

• New Jersey: 8pm Eastern | Results (http://www.nj.com/elections/)

• New York: 9pm Eastern | Results (http://www.ny1.com/)

• California: 11pm Eastern | Results (http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/)

Hoteline is reporting there will be no exit polls, anywhere...

You guys forgot about the St Petersburg Mayoral Race. :P It's of national importance o/c. :)

I have a feeling your friend is more correct than what Kevin is posting. 

Also ignore Republican Apologist, everyone, he's a troll who has no clue.

Kilgore - 49
Kaine   -  47
Potts    -  4

I'm assuming/hoping  that's a prediction.

Also, 'Republican Apologist' is just Scoonie trying to act right-wing.  He's being sarcastic, of course, and the act is getting a tad old. 

What's this?

Wolf Blitzer just predicted a Forrester win by 3%?

Wow!

Looks so familiar, doesn't it?  Poll workers claiming a heavy turnout in one direction or the other.  Deja vu all over again!

"Exit Polls Show Democrat Corzine Is Decisive Winner In NJ Governors' Race...Wants To Appoint Codey To Fill His Senate Seat... "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/11/08/exit-polls-show-democrat-_n_10324.html

As far as I know there were no exit polls in any of the races.  Maybe a couple Corzine staffer with clipboards.  Be patient the results will be in shortly. 

Kos is reporting that the exit polls are fake.  Even the Corzine campaign says there were no exit polls in NJ.

Polls closed in VA.  Let the fun begin  :)

Kaine winning in VA, and Forrester in NJ sits very well with me i should add :)

Come on Kaine and Cozine.... Dont let me down now. *Bites Fingernails*

You do know that Wolf Blitzer is a Republican hack?

J W Kilgore  Republican 0 0.00%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 0 0.00%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 0 0.00%
  Write Ins    0 0.00%
  Vote Totals: 0   
from the official site

wow, low turnout.  :)

hehe with one precinct in:
J W Kilgore  Republican 240 60.30%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 151 37.94%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 7 1.76%

Well, thats not the start I was looking for.

What precint was it

 J W Kilgore     Republican    3,913    56.20%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    2,887    41.46%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    153    2.20%
  Write Ins          10    0.14%
     
Vote Totals:
   6,963    

J W Kilgore  Republican 3,913 56.20%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 2,887 41.46%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 153 2.20%
  Write Ins    10 0.14%
Precincts Reporting: 12 of 2426 (0.49%)
It doesn't say which precincts.

Washington Post says there aren't any exit polls in either NJ, VA or CA. Well, VA is done voting. We'll see soon.

J W Kilgore     Republican    8,460    51.96%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    7,423    45.59%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    381    2.34%
  Write Ins          17    0.10%
     
Vote Totals:
   16,281    

not that anyone cares but there's no results out for the Detroit Mayor race yet polls don't  close till  8pm

Fox News said this race tightend up

Keep us updated.  This thread is for every race from VA to Maine.

T M Kaine     Democratic    25,590    54.28%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    20,230    42.91%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    1,271    2.70%
  Write Ins          57    0.12%
     
Vote Totals:
   47,148    

 

KAINE TAKES THE LEAD!!!

LOL, be easy.  Still 2000+ precincts to go.

:(

Id really like to know where these results are comming from?

A heavily Democratic one.

Also, how are Kilgore and Kaine running vis-a-vis Lt. Gov and AG candidates?

I can't view the sites because I'm on sort of a slow computer right now, so I'm really only just taking in the info.

I think Kilgore will pull it out.

J W Kilgore  Republican 64,387 49.58%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 63,335 48.77%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 1,997 1.54%
  Write Ins    145 0.11%
http://www.sbe.vipnet.org/

Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  J W Kilgore     Republican    64,387    49.58%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    63,335    48.77%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    1,997    1.54%
  Write Ins          145    0.11%
     
Vote Totals:
   129,864    

Office: Lieutenant Governor
Precincts Reporting: 109 of 2426 (4.49%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,062   Total Voting: 109,850   Voter Turnout: 2.47 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  W T Bolling     Republican    63,002    57.35%
  L L Byrne     Democratic    46,652    42.47%
  Write Ins          196    0.18%
     
Vote Totals:
   109,850    

Office: Attorney General
Precincts Reporting: 95 of 2426 (3.92%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,062   Total Voting: 103,109   Voter Turnout: 2.32 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  R F McDonnell     Republican    54,956    53.30%
  R C Deeds     Democratic    48,005    46.56%
  Write Ins          148    0.14%
     
Vote Totals:
   103,109    

Im looking at the interactive site and Kaine is leading 53 - 45, but the Dem Lt. Gov. and AG are getting crushed.

the last poll for Detroit mayor race had  Hendrix 43%  Kilpatrick 41%  

hopefully Hendrix will pull it off

Listen, this is like basketball: everybody knows that a two-pointer in second 15 means nothing, but it is still fun. At this stage it is just that, so for politics fans there is no more shame in shouting stupid things about something insignificant than for sports fans it is to shout "go!" for the stupid ball. It's just innocent fun, that's all.

Virginia is looking very good for Kaine right now.

Not so much because he is up by 6 in the absolute number, but because he is running 24 points ahead of his party's Lt. Gov candidate.   This must indicate a bunch of right-leaning voters ticket-splitting in Kaine's favor.

The Gov's race has more precincts reporting than the other 2 races.  That's why Kaine is so far ahead of them.

 J W Kilgore     Republican    174,724    63.90%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    95,086    34.78%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    3,433    1.26%
  Write Ins          185    0.07%

Big jump for Kilgore there.  Where were those votes coming in from?

i have been following this campaign for months with my american politics class. i am predicting a kaine victory of somewhere around 50-46.

-wbecker

Damn, musta been  heavy republican precincts

I have no idea, but that jump doesnt look good.

Yes but when those good Kaine numbers come in that means we have some swing precincts reporting, right?  :P

CNN is reporting 64-36 Kilgore with 9% of precincts reporting.

 J W Kilgore     Republican    236,588    55.65%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    182,053    42.82%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    6,235    1.47%

Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  L L Byrne     Democratic    155,618    50.95%
  W T Bolling     Republican    149,167    48.84%

 R C Deeds     Democratic    150,715    52.60%
  R F McDonnell     Republican    135,480    47.29%

Where are you getting those numbers from?  I find that last update difficult to believe: It has >80% of the vote going to Kilgore since the last update.

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

Is CNN doing all night coverage? Must be a slow news day. Better get to my TV right now.

56-43 Kilgore with 16% reporting.

Potts is sucking bad so far.

Kaine just closed the gap a little too.  LETS GO NOVA

Just as an early observation:  Potts seems to be underproducing the numbers that he got in the polling data.

I overcounted him at 2.3%, I think.

J W Kilgore  Republican 275,590 55.17%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 215,394 43.12%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 8,111 1.62%
  Write Ins    397 0.08%
  Vote Totals: 499,492   

Their result are really weird...Byrne is running 12 points AHEAD of Kaine right now, although it's 16% reporting vs. 20%.

55-44 Kilgore with 20%, mostly (by anecdote) in southern Virginia.

10 minutes until New Jersey.

EDIT:  Did anyone else see how VA is listed as 9% turnout with 16% precincts reporting?  What's with that?

Who's expected to win in the Lt. Governor & Atty General races in Virginia?

kaine will soon close his gap. the new jersey results will be interesting to see. many predict a last-minute comeback for doug forrester.

-wbecker

The Republican Lt. Gov is suppose to win big.  The AG race is a sligh lean to the Republican.

If it is in Southern Virginia, then it is good news for kaine.

Bolling for Lt. Governor
AG will be close

I think the GOP is expected to win both rather easily.

Precincts Reporting: 596 of 2426 (24.57%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,012   Total Voting: 565,860   Voter Turnout: 12.71 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  J W Kilgore     Republican    309,193    54.64%
  T M Kaine     Democratic    246,111    43.49%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    10,123    1.79%

Considering that Bolling is now down in the Lt. Governor's race, this doesn't exactly bode well for Kaine if conventional wisdom is right about that race and the same precincts are reporting for each race.

CNN: "John Ashcroft, blabla.  We'll be back."

Virginia numbers are really strange.

T M Kaine  Democratic 274,553 51.19%
  J W Kilgore  Republican 250,031 46.61%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 11,321 2.11%
  Write Ins    474 0.09%
  Vote Totals: 536,379   

Some very nice election fraud going on in Brunswick County by my Republicans!!!

Check out these results!

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/nov2005/025.htm

How quickly things change...

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 669 of 2426 (27.58%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,012   Total Voting: 536,379   Voter Turnout: 12.05 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    274,553    51.19%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    250,031    46.61%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    11,321    2.11%
  Write Ins          474    0.09%
     
Vote Totals:
   536,379    

Potts is picking up steam.

Don't pay too much attention to these early results, please, it'll drive you insane.

Gerry Daly (nickshepDem/Alcon alert) is saying that the race in Virginia will be a nailbiter as Kilgore is overperforming Earley and underperforming Bush 2004 in the precincts he has examined.

Yeah, I knew something was fishy in those "official" results. 

I'm following the Washington Post cite, which I trust more, quite frankly, although it only has 10% reporting right now.

Thanks Sam.

But I really dont understand what Gerry is trying to say.  Kilgore is overperforming, but underperforming in relation to Bush's numbers.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing for Kilgore?

was Earley Warner's oppostion in 2001?

Kilgore is outperforming a Republican who lost, but underperforming Bush.  In other words, it's not a surprise landslide either way.

New numbers with 28%, 51-47.

Where do you get the numbers?

He's saying that Kilgore is overperforming compared to Earley 2001, Wa'rner's opposition.

Still early, of course. (no pun intended)

Polls closed in NJ.  Ill jump on those numbers in a sec.

kilgore is likely to underperform bush's 54-45 win here in 2004.

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 750 of 2426 (30.92%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,012   Total Voting: 604,862   Voter Turnout: 13.59 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    315,678    52.19%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    276,094    45.65%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    12,563    2.08%
  Write Ins          527    0.09%
     
Vote Totals:
   604,862    

Generally speaking....

The best way to get an early track on these thngs is go apples to apples...

Compare the same precienct from 2001 to the same precienct in 2005...

Pay aparticulat attention to the relative turnout beyween the years also....

The reason Kilgore was ahead earlier is because the results from Brunswick County were off, they had Kilgore getting 98% of the vote with 844% turnout.

The results have now been correct and Kaine is up by 6.5% overall:

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/nov2005/025.htm

CNN, which is echoing the Virginia SoS's site and some other source (they are getting numbers early it seems).

52-46 Kaine with 31% in.

Thanks for the clarification.  I was sort of confused.

Can I get a link?

Yep, I knew something was up when Kilgore all of a sudden went from 44% to 65% overall with 85,000 new votes for him.

These numbers have since been corrected.

Going to have to go out now.  Oh well, we'll probably know the results for sure when I get back.

CN8 is reporting high turnout in Republican areas of New Jersey.  Low turnout in Democratic areas. 

Too bad, thought we could get away with it.

If urban areas have reported but not suburban Fairfax County, that would make sense.

I can't imagine this will be a landslide, and so far everything I have been hearing "trendwise" from either side other than precinct analysis indicates one.

My friend who works in a Berger County polling station has said the urban areas have been flooded with voters.

Link?

Another made up story by Mr. Tweed.

True to form, Matt Drudge currently has the VA numbers reversed.

CORRECTION: Well, he just switched them.
But before, he proclaimed GOP LEADING!
And now he just gives the numbers without comment.

Um...I'm reasonably sure that there is no Berger County in Virginia?

Philip -- here you go: http://sbe.vipnet.org/index.htm

I meant to say Bergen.  It's a fake story anyway.

The Virginia elections return site isn't working real well.

I think he meant Bergen county in N.J.

Nope, it's real slow, they can't handle all the traffic I guess.  The british lady on CNN even says it takes a while to load up.

It's a little slow, but I imagine they're swamped.  It updates every three minutes, though, and has worked fine for me so far.

Kaine up by 6.4% with 40% of precincts counted.

Thanks :)

I'm surprised the Lt.Gov race is still so close.

I'm getting news that Kaine is up 1.7% with 65% of precincts reporting, but I am highly suspect and would not trust these numbers (even though ti is a generally accurate source.)

Any idea what strong Kilgore areas have yet to be counted?  I can imagine that parts of Northern Virginia haven't posted results yet, but are there any areas where Kilgore can count on a major boost?

Don't know J-Mann.

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 957 of 2426 (39.45%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,012   Total Voting: 756,782   Voter Turnout: 17.00 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    394,570    52.14%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    346,182    45.74%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    15,403    2.04%
  Write Ins          627    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   756,782    

Wow -- what source?  If true, the race has tightened significantly.

Counties generally leak in results in a way that - once you have checked which areas are reporting and which aren't - the information isn't useful anymore.

I think it is safe to say that parts of NOVA have not yet reported.

Is that a fake story or a real story?  And if it is real, what is the source?

Ohio has a fast site, but slow vote counters.

http://news.nbc12.com/returns/

To watch live coverage!

I have a fellow who is getting information from the campaigns, who seem to have direct access to updating numbers.  But, he says, it is not from his usual sources.  He is not sure if it not just an estimation, but it's from a relatively authoritative source.  I'd disregard it for now.

The Attorney General race is close, too!

Any Joisey returns coming in?

Results have not been updated in ten minutes...normally every three.  They may be working on a big batch right now.

No Joisey results so far.

I think this will in fact come down to the wire....Kaine up by 5.3% with almost 50% reporting, but the Lt. Gov race is suspiciously close.  Kaine's got to be the favorite though.

Where are you getting the VA returns?

48% reporting

51.6-46.3 Kaine

EDIT: jfern - http://sbe.vipnet.org/index.htm

Ah, the web site always times out!!!!

Jon Corzine    Dem    471    79.97%  
Doug Forrester    Rep    118    20.03%  

Anyone have any idea when polls close in California?  That'll be an interesting one, too.  I'm expecting Sanders to win in San Diego, but most Schwarzenegger's ballot initiatives to fail.

There is a precinct discrepancy between races; one has 50% reporting, the other with 45%, and the other with 40%, so I wouldn't pay attention to parallels drawn between races just yet.

Well, landlside Corzine.  Time for bed.

:D

T M Kaine  Democratic 477,878 51.55%
  J W Kilgore  Republican 429,086 46.29%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 19,226 2.07%
  Write Ins    743 0.08%

The Dems where meant to be winning that, our candidate is endorsed by the NRA after all ;) , surprised at the closeness of Lt.Gov race... the Kilgore/Kaine face off close as a badger's wetsuit :D

8 Pacific

Where are u getting those?

Not yet.  It's taking too long for the site to load the individual county/city numbers.  Richmond City has numbers reported (obviously for Kaine), but no numbers for Richmond County yet . . . for example.  Prince WIlliam is going for Kilgore at the moment.

11pm EST

Kaine has stayed 48,000 votes ahead pretty steadily over the last 10% reporting.

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1169 of 2426 (48.19%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,999   Total Voting: 926,933   Voter Turnout: 20.82 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    477,878    51.55%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    429,086    46.29%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    19,226    2.07%
  Write Ins          743    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   926,933    

Jersey NJN has it 51-47 Forrester- No precint and number of votes- very, very early going.

Thanks jfern and Boss Tweed. 

I'm in Fairfax county...haven't heard any results for here yet, and I don't know the political landscape well enough to predict which way it'll go. Kilgore would be my best guess, though.

How many times can we post the exact same results?

Corzine is truly a slime, but I still find it hard to believe he could lose in Jersey...

Do you have a good link to Jersey results...?

J-Mann:  Fairfax County voted Kerry, and is even more Dem on local level.  Wealthy libertarian Washington suburbs.  It'll go Kaine unless this is a landslide.

And we can stop posting the 5:17 results, folks. :D

Well, the guy he's running against is definitely even more of a slime.

I'm looking for those as well.  Anyone surprised by the low projected voter turnout in Virginia?  SoS's site has it sitting at 20% -- granted, that could change, but seems awful low for a gubernatorial election.

It's true. BTW the slimer guy is up 51-47 with 358 precincts.

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/5223530/detail.html

Fairfax Co. will vote for Kaine as will Arlington County.

That's not a projected turnout...that the actual number of votes they have counted so far...which would project to about a 43% turnout when all votes are counted.

20% is not the turnout estimate, but proportion of the registerred voters already counted. So, it is looking like something around 40-45% - I'd say it's high for an off-year (nationally) election.

Precincts Reporting: 1348 of 2426 (55.56%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,969   Total Voting: 1,073,496   Voter Turnout: 24.11 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    549,457    51.18%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    499,922    46.57%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    23,157    2.16%

Kaine remains up by a similar margin as before with 56% reporting...

WA is hitting 60% and the biggest race we have is King County Executive.  It will be higher.  Absentees haven't even started to be counted, I imagine.

51.2-46.6 Kaine with 55.6%.  Seems an update every 10 minutes.

ag, that can't be high.  If WA is supposed to hit 60%, I imagine VA would hit at least 65-70%...?

Forrester is up 51-47 with 6% reporting.

Thank-you for the link :)

Jon Corzine    Dem    2,012    67.84%  
Doug Forrester    Rep    954    32.16%  
Wesley Bell    Ind    0    .00%  
Hector Castillo    Ind    0    .00%  
Edward Forchion    LMj    0    .00%  
Angela Lariscy    Soc    0    .00%  
Michael Latigona    Ind    0    .00%  
Jeffrey Pawlowski    Lib    0    .00%  
Costantino Rozzo    SPU    0    .00%  
Matthew Thieke    Grn    0    .00%  

Precincts Reporting: 1348 of 2426 (55.56%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,969   Total Voting: 1,073,496   Voter Turnout: 24.11 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    549,457    51.18%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    499,922    46.57%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    23,157    2.16%
  Write Ins          960    

Ah, makes much more sense.  Thanks NickG and ag.

J-Mann

Fairfax County with 73% reporting

T M Kaine  Democratic 113,320 60.26%
  J W Kilgore  Republican 71,205 37.86%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 3,382 1.80%


Fairfax City with 0% reporting

J W Kilgore  Republican 0 0.00%
  T M Kaine  Democratic 0 0.00%
  H R Potts Jr  Independent 0 0.00%

In NJ I’d take a mediocre republican who seems to have the right idea against a machine politician, without any idea where to start cleaning up the state.

Along with Forrester, I hope (don’t expect, but still I hope) Arnie does well on his propositions all of which are fairly moderate and would do a lot to help the state end its decade long run as some basket case (!)    
 
Meanwhile the one race I really care about is here in VA, just hope Kaine pulls it off.

The fact that Fairfax County is almost done is good for Kilgore.
The fact that Fairfax City hasn't started counting is good for Kaine.

Cutting education in a state that already spends less than the national average, despite their very high cost of living, is not moderate.

OHIO RESULTS

State Issue 1
Yes       46,541    55.26%
No       37,688    44.74%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    84,229    
 

State Issue 2
No       49,169    56.90%
Yes       37,246    43.10%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    86,415    

State Issue 3
No       51,268    60.16%
Yes       33,945    39.84%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    85,213    
 

State Issue 4
No       55,365    66.40%
Yes       28,010    33.60%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    83,375    
 

State Issue 5
No       54,257    65.73%
Yes       28,287    34.27%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    82,544    

The NYC NBC link has been posted but here is Philly's  -  http://www.nbc10.com/politics/5224075/detail.html (http://www.nbc10.com/politics/5224075/detail.html)


Forrester - 51%
Corzine - 47%
Other - 2%

6% reporting

Damn, I was way off.  I guess I live in a Republican area...must be an anomoly :)

NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR
(As of 8:31 p.m.)
45 of 6,310 (1 %) reporting.  
Candidate  Votes  
Jon D. Corzine (D) 10,346  
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 7,185  

NY times

As long as PWC comes through for Bolling, I'll be happy.  :)  I like him.

Why is the Republican lt. governor candidate winning?

Corzine just surged to 56-43.  Looks like a city result coming through

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1540 of 2426 (63.48%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,969   Total Voting: 1,221,738   Voter Turnout: 27.44 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    624,912    51.15%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    569,051    46.58%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    26,703    2.19%

Sad that all of the RON amendments are currently failing.

Because he's better than Byrne (commie in leftist clothing).  hehehe

McDonnell has taken the lead from Deeds. Bolling retains lead. Kilgore doneski.

At least the Dems won't be able to build a bench for 2009.

Detroit mayor election EXIT POLL

Hendrix  52%
Kilpatrick  48%

-/+  4.5

All we need to do to get 5000 posts in a month is have an election, obviously.  7 new replies while I'm reading the last page of this....

Nobody seems to check the most obvious: NYTimes front page:

Jon D. Corzine (D) 10,346  
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 7,185  

It aint over yet.

No change in percentages....Does anybody know if any national News Network is following these races right now?

Weird, they have fewer precincts and more votes reporting than NBC. They definitely have differences sources of information.

NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR
(As of 8:36 p.m.)
182 of 6,310 (3 %) reporting. 
Candidate  Votes 
Jon D. Corzine (D) 59,121 
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 43,506 

Those 368 precints are probably out of NW Jersey if I'm a Democrat i'm not worried at all about this election.  

Nice to see Kaine up in VA.  Dems get 60% in Fairfax and the city hasn't even started counting yet?  Good omen for the future of Dems in VA.  Like to see some results out of Appalachia before I get too excited about Virginia.

51.2-46.6 Kaine with 63% reporting.

It looks like the young voters turned out for kilpatrick.....damn

Kaine leads Kilgore 51.15%-46.58% with 63.48% reporting.

But they're reporting only 3% in -- the WNBC site reported 6%...they haven't consolidated results yet.

it looks like the 60 or so percent of my students who predicted a kaine victory will be getting the extra 5 points on their quiz tomorrow.

This NJ site is good:

http://www.nj.com/elections/electioncoverage/

Those are the NY Times numbers.

Wow.  The Virginia AG race is close!

Thanks man.  Ive been looking for one with up to date results.

AG and Lt. Gov. both.  I can't call it quits on the Gov. race yet, but it looks like Kaine is headed towards a victory.

Actually, they are the results. No one owns the numbers, idiot. Thanks for the link with percentages (something your NY Times doesn't have, jfern), AuH2O.

As long as Potts keeps that 2-3% buffer between Kaine and kilgore I think kaine will win.

Partisanship in full bloom! :)

The NY Times numbers are currently more up to date.

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1634 of 2426 (67.35%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,968   Total Voting: 1,281,318   Voter Turnout: 28.78 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    649,957    50.73%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    602,443    47.02%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    27,840    2.17%
  Write Ins          1,078    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   1,281,318    

Gap closed with the latest update.

the gap is closing slightly, but if kaine stays at least 3 points above kilgore until 80% of precincts are reporting, he is golden.

Hmmm, perhaps I spoke too soon regarding confidence in Kaine.  He's still 47,000 ahead, which is consistent with what it has been for an hour now.

Something strong for Kilgore came in.

Kilgore is going to win.

Maybe Va Beach?

Do you have a link? Was there suddenly a surge from the western VA??

What's the logic behind this?

Why?

It's a prediction and not a fact.  He's been making small gains over the past half hour or so.  He may run out of time here, but I think he'll win in the end by <1%.

My source indicates Virginia Beach just reported, accounting for the GOP jump.

CNN: "Cognitive behavioural Cathy...blablabla..."

I noticed before that Henrico had only reported 15%. I would think that would be a strong point for Kilgore when it comes in, right?

EDIT: For those who don't know, Henrico is Richmond suburbia.

 259 of 6,310 Precincts Reporting

                                                Jon Corzine   Dem   69,123   52.22%    
                                             Doug Forrester   Rep   60,300   45.55%    

This NJ site has weird results.

With  358 precincts, Forrester is leading 3743-3443 (51%-47%)
AND
With  399 precincts, Corzine is leading 92442-82160 (52%-46%)

WTF?

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/5223530/detail.html

Henrico went for Warner in 2001

In early results, oftentimes in a rush someone will double precincts, put in the wrong number.  It happened just about an hour ago, and sometimes goes unnoticed for a while.

A good example is Grays Harbor County in the 2004 WA race - it was going for Rossi until someone noticed they have doubled the eastern part of the county.  They probably would not have noticed for even longer if that hadn't given the county 92% turnout!

NY Times has different NJ numbers, Corzine up 91895 (51%) to Forresters 82150 (46%) with 259 precincts.

I've looked at some counties and cities and cross-checked them with 2004 and 2001. I don't think Kilgore can win, regardless of a good performance in the SW.

how is the detroit race goin

Why is the Washington Post showing different numbers with the same amount of votes in?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2005/va/index.html

You are right, I guess I was basing it off Bush's performance in 04 (won by 8%)

sweet

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1754 of 2426 (72.30%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,952   Total Voting: 1,374,938   Voter Turnout: 30.88 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    698,426    50.80%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    645,552    46.95%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    29,841    2.17%
  Write Ins          1,119    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   1,374,938    

Reform Ohio Now is getting blown out..

State Issue 1
Yes       98,168    53.27%
No       86,123    46.73%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    184,291    

State Issue 2
No       123,174    63.91%
Yes       69,560    36.09%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    192,734    

State Issue 3
No       127,602    67.13%
Yes       62,479    32.87%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    190,081    

State Issue 4
No       134,625    71.79%
Yes       52,902    28.21%
Breakdown By County    Total Votes    187,527    

State Issue 5
No       133,032    71.39%
Yes       53,312    28.61%

EXIT POLL

hendrix   52%
kilpatrick 48%

Jtfdem, you're damn fast.

BTW, nickshep, can you provide the names are the issues too?  I'd like to know what is being pounded so badly.

52-48 Hendrix?  No wonder I hate exit polls.

Anyone have a link to where I can watch live results from VA?

Ohio likes curroption, obviously. Why else would they vote for people like Gov. Taft and Bush that they disapprove of. It's too much of a 1 party state to actually think for itself.

Kilgore looked as if he was catching up (slowly) for a time, but he's back to being 4% roughly behind, and back by 53,000 now.

I call VA for Kaine. He's up 50.80%-46.95% with 72.30% reporting.

Republicans are leading for Lt Governor and Attorney General.

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

CNN's Larry King Live: "Jennifer Aniston elected Governor of Virginia"

C-SPAN according to their website is suppose to be covering these races but all I see is Arlen Specter in a committee meeting.

Jon Corzine    Dem    238,063    52.19%   
Doug Forrester    Rep    204,388    44.80% 

Corzine - 52%
Forrester - 44%
Other - 3%

22% reporting

http://www.kywonline.com/election/race101.htm (http://www.kywonline.com/election/race101.htm)

Great, we were all waiting on your "call."

I'll go ahead and call the Lt. Gov race for Bolling, and AG race for McDonnell, though the AG race is razor tight.

Jon Corzine Dem 91,895   51.40%    
Doug Forrester   Rep   82,150   45.95%    
   

The impatience in my blood is willing to make the same call.  Catching up over 50,000 votes with less than 30% to go would take a lot for Kilgore.

Hannity and Colmes will have updated results this hour

Any idea if SW Virginia is in yet?

The AG race is too close to call.

NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR
(As of 9:00 p.m.)
1,252 of 6,310 (20 %) reporting. 
Candidate  Votes 
Jon D. Corzine (D) 238,063
(52%)
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 204,388
(45%

Kilgore's done, with 95% certainty.

Only interesting thing now is the lt. governor race.

LOL!

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1773 of 2426 (73.08%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,866   Total Voting: 1,390,592   Voter Turnout: 31.24 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    705,775    50.75%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    653,339    46.98%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    30,342    2.18%
  Write Ins          1,136    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   1,390,592    

Stop looking at whatever you are looking at.


Jon Corzine  Dem   258,298 52%
 Doug Forrester  GOP   218,659 44%
 Others  Others   15,372 3%


http://www.kywonline.com/election/race101.htm (http://www.kywonline.com/election/race101.htm)

I don't know i we will get detroit election results the FBI is investigating the city clerk for mishandling and use of absentee ballots

Shut the fuck up.

Just look at Fairfax County:

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/nov2005/059.htm

52-45 Corzine

23% reporting

Thanks.  Damn my link is way out of date.

Heh, looks like MAS pegged the Other vote after all 3%.  I know its early...

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 1805 of 2426 (74.40%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,835   Total Voting: 1,419,678   Voter Turnout: 31.89 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    718,541    50.61%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    669,100    47.13%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    30,887    2.18%
  Write Ins          1,150    0.08%
     
Vote Totals:
   1,419,678    

Ap just projected Kaine the winner.

After taking a quick look at the county-by-county results it appears SW VA has already reported for the most part.

NY Times now has better numbers.

1415 precincts

Jon D. Corzine (D) 268,980
(52%)
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 232,052
(45%)


http://www.nytimes.com

Oh, and this one looks a little better.
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/5223530/detail.html

J-Mann just pointed out (and Jtfdem as well) that the Associated Press has called Virginia for Kaine.

Drduge is calling VA for Kaine.

Jon Corzine    Dem    268,980    51.97%   
Doug Forrester    Rep    232,052    44.84%

Before only the AP had called it. I'm glad that someone reliable called it now.

Drudge likely called it based on the AP.  He rarely does things on his own.

I hate these premature calls.

GO FORRESTER!

Indeed, Drudge has spent his entire career rephrasing other people's sentences.  And he does it damn well.

The AP call is way premature though.  I'm pretty sure Kaine will win, but this was way too early.

   Jon Corzine   Dem    363,172   53.56%    
   Doug Forrester   Rep   295,456      43.57%

1826 precints reporting

Jon D. Corzine (D) 363,172 (54%)
Douglas R. Forrester (R) 295,456  (44%)

God I hate Hannity. Trying to spin the results..

And...........Matthew Thieke    Grn    2,758    .53% 

Governor  -- 1,815 of 2,395 precincts reporting (76%)
   Timothy M. Kaine   743,526   51%   
   Jerry W. Kilgore   675,748   47%   
   H. Russell Potts Jr.   32,836   2%   

According to CBS 6, Richmond

http://www.wtvr.com/Global/link.asp?L=171578

What is he saying?

Drudge now with a call on NJ for Corzine.

Bloomberg up 81%-17% (must be Staten Island) with 1 precinct.

Precincts Reporting: 1889 of 2426 (77.86%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,795   Total Voting: 1,491,113   Voter Turnout: 33.49 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    755,750    50.68%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    701,867    47.07%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    32,316    2.17%
  Write Ins          1,180    0.08%

Fox (local) and WJR radio show

Hendrix 48%
Kilpatrick 52%

this is actual results but it did not say what % of precints

Fox is in full damage control.  Corzine won be acting conservative.  Bush is not dragging Republicans...

Corzine could end up doing better than Kerry in NJ.

So did HGTV.  *dies laughin*

Governor  -- 1,949 of 2,395 precincts reporting (81%)
   Timothy M. Kaine   810,464   51%   (X)
   Jerry W. Kilgore   736,530   47%   
   H. Russell Potts Jr.   35,758   2%   

yeah no one really cares about Detroit election

LOL! And Oxygen? They're the final word, ya know.

Fox or Hannity?

I call Bolling for VA Lt. Governor. McDonnel will likely win the AG race, but still too close to call.

Jon Corzine    Dem    378,549    52.48%  
Doug Forrester    Rep    321,243    44.53%
Matthew Thieke    Grn    3,630    .50%  

Larry Sabato's hair looks like my grandmother's.

Someone needs to food Alan Colmes a sandwich.  He looks like he is about to collapse.

Someone's cell phone just rang on Fox News.

I don't have numbers but I'm being reminded of why I hate the television.

unless kilgore receives all remaining votes, this election has been won by tim kaine. this is a big win for the democratic party.

-wbecker

With VA wrapping up and early calls on NJ, interest in the lower card matches should pick up.

Dick Morris.

Sabato said, Warners 2008 stock is about to skyrocket.  Allens will drop because Kilgore was Allens protege.

I cant believe Kilpatrick is leading. What are the people of detroit smoking, I thought this would be a cake walk for Hendrix

Forrester will make up votes in his areas but I don;t think he can close the 80,000 vote gap with 36% reporting

What is Hannity saying?

with the Detroit election so close we may not know the result tonight

like I said earlier but no one cared,  the FBI is after the city clerk she is banned from counting the absentee ballots

Colmes just said "New Jersey has been neck and neck for weeks." :)

I had no idea Mrs. Logan lived in Detroit.  :D

Wow, in LA county, people's polling places were changed at 10PM last night, too late to notify them. What BS.

 Question: Create Lt Governor Office
 1,411 of 6,310 Precincts Reporti

Yes    172,881    55.53%   
No    138,441    44.47% 

Governor Tim Kaine :D

And my argument, that I’ve been making since the early part of the summer that Kaine would close the gap and gain a “second wind” during the final week or two is proved devastatingly accurate… smug is an understatement ;)    

…still think Deeds will win AG race, he’s endorsed by the NRA and he’s a well liked candidate, if Kaine’s won I’d be surprised if Deeds didn’t. Kinda glad we Byrne got beat, not that there was any real prospect of her ever winning in the first place.

kilpatrick is a very good campaigner

he and his supporters have used the race card and Detroit vs. the suburbs to divide and win.  Kilpatrick's a dirty scumbag

I suppose no hope for RON? Issue 2 is the closest, it's only going down 37.6%-62.4% right now.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/Results/RaceSummary.aspx

¿Qué estado es?

The lynching ad was disgusting.

Sabato pretty much said that Corzine has the race won.
NJ

Nuevo Joisey

 wow you heard about that ad

I would think that Potts would perform strongest in the DC suburbs.  Instead, he is getting a uniform 2% from all across the state.  My guess his support is comming from chiefly name recognition.

What were each of them again?

Ya i did

Kaine has a good sized lead now. 51.31%-46.44% with 88.13% reporting. Deeds might still have a chance, he's down only 49.62%-50.30% now.

Warner's stock for the 2008 nomination has gone up 1% today.

2 -  Making it easier to vote by allowing all Ohioans to vote by mail.

3 -  Helping stop the influence of big money in elections by greatly reducing campaign contributions.

4 -  Stopping the politicians from drawing their own legislative districts and putting an Independent Commission in charge of this process.

5 - Placing a bi-partisan Board of Supervisors in charge of Ohio's elections, instead of a partisan official who backs candidates and takes sides in elections.

Deeds down by less than 11,000 votes with 83% reporting. Let's go Deeds!!

Bolling has pretty much won it.

Kaine is the next governor of Virginia!

I know this is a bit premature, but does anyone know where I can find a link to a VA tv station covering the election??

Where’s left to count?

I see that Kilgore victory really helped him a lot. ;)

The mask slips ;)

()
Stick a fork in him!

And making it easier for fraud, voter manipulation and intimidation to take place.

And other good news, traitor Randy Kelly has been booted from office:

70% In

Coleman 70%
Kelly       30%

Fox News is now reporting that Tim Kaine has defeated Tim Kaine.

YAY!

I find it unacceptable that Ohio has neither no excuse absentee voting or early voting. In California you can sign up for permanent absentee voting.

That's quite an upset.

Associated Press projects Corzine the winner!!

Looks like Deeds will probably come up just short. He is now down 13,000 votes.

Jon Corzine    Dem    514,326    53.34%  
Doug Forrester    Rep    420,463    43.61%  
Hector Castillo    Ind    10,246    1.06%  
Jeffrey Pawlowski    Lib    6,215    .64%  
Matthew Thieke    Grn    4,649    .48%  

based on an TELEPHONE EXIT POLL  

Local 4 (NBC)  has called the race for Hendrix

this race is all over the place  I doubt this is true  there are lots of absentee ballots

http://www.clickondetroit.com/politics/5282644/detail.html

Yeah, I heard that.

LOL


Obviously Kaine and Bolling have already won in VA, and Corzine in NJ. Only close race now is VA AG.

AP calls it for Corzine

There are still afew holdouts with hope for Kilgore.  Some of them are doing some number crunching.  Unless everything left is heavily Republican, I have a hard tome seeing how this result changes.

When does Corzine appoint his replacement?

Poor New Jersey.

Latest from NJ:

Edward Forchion      LMj   3,752   0.39%

I can't wait for the conservatives to spin this one.

What's with FOX using music during people are speaking to make them stop?  This isn't the Academy Awards.

WeedMan!!

RON is toast, not even leading in Cuyahago county.

Democrats keep Democratic Gubernatorial offices. Spin or fact?  :P

Kilgore was supposed to win this one, and people were claiming that the NJ race was close.

You know what i mean.
Corzine didn't win by so and so percentage.......

If Bolling wins and McDonnell holds on, then the Republicans pick up an office in VA.

There's your spin for you :P

Well, a traditionally deomcrat state at the state level went for a democrat and a close state at the state level went democrat when their candidate proved a strong finisher and the republican had an ad backfire.

Exactly what I was thinking.  The Republicans own NYC.  All kind of a non sequitor.

If he wins by less than five points than he won't be happy. Remember that he had this locked up? Remember how it would be a landslide?

NJ Gov Race

Socialist Angela Lariscy-625; .07%

Yay!....i think. ;) ;D

So far his margin of victory is better than Kerry's.

Why are they calling a race with a 10 point difference at 40% precincts reporting?

Remember what a wise man said about NJ voters breaking late and hard? 

You can look at the other 60%, and if they're not too much more conservative, you call it.

Hmmm...

89% precincts reporting

  T M Kaine     Democratic    882,671    51.33%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    798,104    46.41%

Interestingly enough, that last SUSA poll seemed to be almost dead on for how much Kaine is looking to get.

Phil,

You are right, of course. However, let the Leftists have their moment of glory tonight. If they want to get this excited about RETAINING two Governorships, then it gives you a pretty good idea just how bad off they have been in recent years. So let the Dems and their fellatio partners in the Mainstream Media have their day in the sun, and let's put our focus back on keeping the nation strong and vital.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/politics/5280766/detail.html (http://www.clickondetroit.com/politics/5280766/detail.html)

actual results

new jersey has no shame.

maybe one day theyll elect a decent governor.

In Maine, an attempt to repeal a recently enacted Gay rights law is losing by 14 points with 18% of precincts reporting.  Maine voters had twice voted the other way by narrow margins.

I'm happy with that result, although I was a little uneasy that the law covered the transgendered.

Office: Lieutenant Governor
Precincts Reporting: 2171 of 2426 (89.49%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,723   Total Voting: 1,692,399   Voter Turnout: 38.02 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  W T Bolling     Republican    859,903    50.81%
  L L Byrne     Democratic    829,317    49.00%

Office: Attorney General
Precincts Reporting: 2170 of 2426 (89.45%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,723   Total Voting: 1,689,284   Voter Turnout: 37.95 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  R F McDonnell     Republican    845,890    50.07%
  R C Deeds     Democratic    841,974    49.84%

Less than 4000 gap for VA AG with 89.45% reporting. What are the recount rules?

::) ::) ::)  If it looks like spin, and it sounds like spin....

I agree that it is sad that other Dems are getting so cocky. Naturally, you celebrate over any victory, but this is getting a bit ridiculous. I will to disagree with the rest of your statement, however.

Spin it baby, spin it.

I don't see anyone sucking anyones dick or gloating.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.

A Democrat is looking to win with a majority of the vote in Virginia, in which, originally, Kilgore was by far and away the favorite, and which is a state that is not exactly known for its Democratic streak.

If a Republican won in the heart of New England, would you not consider this a very good thing?

Spin NYC.  :P

NJ is not a big deal, machine politics stay in place.

VA could be big if Kaine can move the state leftward in presidential elections.  Or if they sweep all the top 3 offices.  Retaining a gubenatorial swing state is good for the dems, though.

Nick,

That's spin???? New Jersey is a staunch Democratic state and Virginia is a close Republican state that is coming off a tremendous 4-year run by one of the most popular and effective Democratic Governors in recent memory. Where is it at ALL surprising that the Dems would win both of these races???

The real SPIN has come in the past few weeks as the mainstream media has made these races into so-called "proxy battles" between Bush and the Democratic Party.

When the GOP retained the RI Governor spot, I wasn't going crazy.

The Democrats won two potentially close races.  What, they are not supposed to be happy about that?  If they were saying that this is a big chance toward Democratic leadership, I would disagree strongly, but being happy about victories is fine.

VA AG is coming down to a photo finish.

WIth 89.65% reporting, McDonnell leads 50.08%-49.84%. That's 4151 votes.

I wasnt pointing you out in particular.  I just find it funny that when Democrats celebrate two solid victories you and others point out how desperate we are.  Let us celebrate, it was a good night for us.  And if we win big CA, it will have been a great night.

Kilpatrick is human scum.

Here's hoping for a blowout.

Gabu,

A Republican DID win in New York, which is far more Democratic than Virginia is Republican. Also, Virginia was held by a very effective and very popular Democratic Governor, who was pretty much given the free hand to appoint his successor. This victory in Virginia is more about the sound government of the Warner Administration than it is a repudiation of George Bush as Dems are trying to spin.

Deeds could still win, he is only behind by 4000 votes with precincts still to come in from Richmond and Fairfax County.

Bob Menendez is already sending his best wishes to Corzine. Senator Menendez, anyone? I am really starting to get sick with NJ.

That's a fair point Nick. My point though is that many Democrats are turning the Virginia election into a referendum on Bush, and that's just ridiculous.

VA is a very good win for the Democrats.  Kilgore was ahead by 10% at midsummer!  NJ is nothing special, but VA can be bragged about.

Mark,

Democrat wins a close win in a weakly Republican state in a race where the Republican was, for a long time, heavily favoured.

Republican wins an expeccted landslide in a heavily Democratic city.

Which is more immediately exciting?  The first, because it is not expected.  It is natural human emotion to be excited about competitive races.  I don't see why it surprises you that Democrats are exciting.

Winner     Candidate     Party      Incumbent     Votes     Vote %
X    Jon Corzine    Dem       657,887    54%
   Doug Forrester    GOP       521,655    42%
   Others    Others       37,299    3%

Looks like MAS' 'Other' number will hold.

I don't see anyone "going crazy".  There are a lot of Democrats who are happy to see these results, for sure, but I don't see anything abnormal in taking pleasure in a victory for one's own team.  Are we supposed to be going "ho hum, Kaine won, big deal"?

Precincts Reporting: 2204 of 2426 (90.85%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,724   Total Voting: 1,722,869   Voter Turnout: 38.70 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  R F McDonnell     Republican    864,912    50.20%
  R C Deeds     Democratic    856,502    49.71%
  Write Ins          1,455    0.08%

I don't think VA was a referendum on Bush, as much as a combination of a referendum on Warner and a less than spectacular candidate in Kilgore.

Alcon, I essentially agree with what you said. My comments are aimed at the gleeful Dems who are viewing these races as a "proxy battle" between Bush and the Dems in general.

Well, we knew that was going to happen.  Had Kilgore won the right would have glorified Bush for saving him.  I knew it was going to be spun regardless of the winner.

The midterms are still a long way off.  Trust me, I am definitely not counting my chickens a year out.

Yeah, but everyone already knew that Bloomburg was going to win.  To my knowledge, he had no serious opposition.

Kaine, on the other hand, is somewhat of an underdog, since, as I said, Kilgore was by far the favorite to win early on in the race.

Um, could someone point me to results for these races. I don't feel like paging through what looks like a 28 page bitchfest.

VA: Kaine wins, Lt. Gov: Bolling (R), slightly up, AG: too close to call
NJ: Corzine declared winner

Jake,

Precincts Reporting:    3813     Of    6310     60%

X    Jon Corzine    Dem       680,646    54%
   Doug Forrester    GOP       538,669    42%
   Others    Others       38,757    3%

T M Kaine     Democratic    942,020    51.55%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    843,897    46.18%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    39,921    2.18%

Office: Governor
Precincts Reporting: 2284 of 2426 (94.15%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,724   Total Voting: 1,827,425   Voter Turnout: 41.05 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  T M Kaine     Democratic    942,020    51.55%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    843,897    46.18%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    39,921    2.18%
  Write Ins          1,587    0.09%
 View Results by  District   Locality    Total:    1,827,425   

Office: Lieutenant Governor
Precincts Reporting: 2225 of 2426 (91.71%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,724   Total Voting: 1,739,569   Voter Turnout: 39.08 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  W T Bolling     Republican    884,422    50.84%
  L L Byrne     Democratic    851,844    48.97%
  Write Ins          3,303    0.19%
 View Results by  District   Locality    Total:    1,739,569   

Office: Attorney General
Precincts Reporting: 2206 of 2426 (90.93%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,724   Total Voting: 1,725,260   Voter Turnout: 38.75 %
 Candidates     Party    Vote Totals    Percentage
  R F McDonnell     Republican    866,261    50.21%
  R C Deeds     Democratic    857,544    49.71%
  Write Ins          1,455    0.08%
 View Results by  District   Locality    Total:    1,725,260   

VA  (http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/)

NEW YORK MAYOR
(As of 9:48 p.m.)
623 of 6,063 (10 %) reporting.
Candidate    Votes
Michael R. Bloomberg (R)    70,361
(57%)
Fernando Ferrer (D)    49,532
(40%)
NEW JERSEY GOVERNOR
(As of 9:51 p.m.)
3,680 of 6,310 (58 %) reporting.
Candidate    Votes
Jon D. Corzine (D)    657,887
(54%)
Douglas R. Forrester (R)    521,655
(43%)

NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/)

I don't even see jfern having done that.  If you're going to hold us (the  Dems on the forum in general, or the less partisan ones in general) responsible for the idiots on television, feel free, but there's no use in it...

Alcon, I see your point, but all the polls I saw in the last week showed that Kaine was EXPECTED to win. Sure he was way behind in the early stages of the race, but this is not a huge upset. I do agree that this is a race Republicans SHOULD have won, but it's not the "drive to realignment" that the media types are spinning.

Virginia

Precincts Reporting: 2284 of 2426 (94.15%)
Registered Voters: 4,451,724   Total Voting: 1,827,425   Voter Turnout: 41.05 %

  T M Kaine     Democratic    942,020    51.55%
  J W Kilgore     Republican    843,897    46.18%
  H R Potts Jr     Independent    39,921    2.18%
  Write Ins          1,587    0.09%

New Jersey

3,680 of 6,310 Precincts Reporting
      
Jon Corzine  Dem  657,887  54.07%
Doug Forrester  Rep  521,655  42.87%

I'm too lazy to post the others.

I'm surprised Corzine is winning by such a large margin.  I expected him to win by like 4% but not near this bad.  Furthemore, I don't think Bloomberg is going to win by nearly as much as some have predicted.  Dems still have a good base and I can't see Bloomberg cracking 60%.  I of course will probably be wrong.

Any info on Virginia an Jersey legislaures?

In St. Paul mayor race, real Democrat defeats faux Democrat.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5715831.html

Not only did we refrain from celebration of our MA and RI Gubernatorial victories, we didn't even mention it.

I think Jake has been adequately brought up to speed.

Oh, the Ohio Reform props all look to be going down.

Detroit Mayor
Candidate   Votes   Percent   Winner
Freman Hendrix    24,277   59%   
Kwame Kilpatrick    16,514   40%   
Precincts Reporting - 99 out of 720 - 13%

And Detroit mayor is underway too. (http://www.clickondetroit.com/politics/5280766/detail.html)

Well, there were other races at the same time.

Good, well it at least appears my predictions were close to correct.

The standard deviation that the Democrats should be counting to the anti-Bush vote is probably the plus margin to the Democrats from my expected totals in NJ/VA.

I know there's nothing scientific about it, but it feels about right to me.

I am also not surprised the Ohio ballot measures are going down.  I read through the actual language of the initiatives yesterday and I swear it made no sense to me.  If it makes no sense to me, then it certainly makes no sense to anyone else and people vote against what they don't understand.

About New Jersey: It's as though, every two years, New Jersey voters collect 200 pound samples of its toxic sludge, dollops the sludge into dark blue business suits, then mail the sludge to Washington, D.C. and Trenton.

In more important (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory2/3446405) electoral news

In White Settlement, a suburb of Fort Worth, voters rejected a proposal to change the town's name to West Settlement. Some citizens said the name taken in the 1800s for the city's white pioneers was politically incorrect and hindered economic development, but others believed the city should hang on to its heritage.

Looks like a solid ass whooping all around. I'll give props to Kaine for coming back over the past month. Hopefully, he'll be Warner rather than Kaine the next four years. On Corzine, I really hope New Jersey slides deeper into the hole they're in. Thank god Detroit's voted that piece of slime out of office. As an aside, Doherty has declared victory in Scranton with 57%.

Anyone know where I can find a live feed of Kaine and Corzines annoucnement speech?

But the big difference is that, up until, like, a week or so ago, the race had been completely neck-and-neck with a slight Kilgore edge.  Having Kaine prevail in the end is at least somewhat of a victory for the Democratic Party.

I really don't see what the big deal is with being happy over this victory in the face of uncertainty.

No. We'll just start calling it Camden. Yeah, all of it will be called Camden...




Your point? Shouldn't we have been celebrating about those "huge" wins, too?

Serious question: Have Detroit's ghettoes been counted yet, or are those results from the *ordinary* townships that are shared between the city and the county?

In New Orleans, the project vote was always, conveniently, last to be counted.

I have no freaking clue.

It's not just being happy. Just wait until the blogs start going crazy, saying that this will completely destroy the GOP in 2006.

AP site with some county by county results for VA: click on "View By County" (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/_politics/va_election05/index.html?SITE=VAHAR&SECTION=POLITICS)

Phil, what else do you expect them to say?

You need to grow thicker skin than that.

Okay... but we aren't "the blogs", so I'm not sure what your point exactly is or what you want us to do.

Live feed from NJ:

http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/livestreaming.html

Bolling (R) declared Lt. Gov. winner in VA

http://news.nbc12.com/returns/

Live feed from Kilgore Headquarters

Forrester is at the podium

Forrester speaking now.

People of New Jersey...You have voted unwisely.

Texas results are coming in.

Needless to say, the banning same-sex marriage initiative will get about 75%-80% and Houston's incumbent mayor Bill White (who was a crappy chair of the state Democratic party, but an extremely good mayor) will get about 90%.

were the state legislatures up for election in nj and va?

if so, how did they turn out?

I don't know why, but I'm always excited on election nights. :P

Does anyone know how some of the state ballot measures are doing, like the S.F. handgun ban?

The only real major races left to decide are the AG race in Virginia and the California ballot propositions.  When do the polls close out in California? (a jfern question)

11 or 12 I believe.

Looks like Deeds will lose by a few thousand (less than 1%), but a recount could be in order in such a close race.

It looks as though the GOP had better come up with a "Missouri Plan*" for VA in the next 2 years

*For decades in MO, the strongest GOP county in the state was St Louis Co. Often, winning the state in the old days (before 1988) meant little more than winning that county by a convincing margin. But, little by little, the GOP margins there shrank, so that, by 1992, it had become a Democrat base. Now, St Louis Co. is among the three most liberal and Democrat counties/cities in the state. Fortunately for the GOP, they expanded into the Ozarks, which had just enough country voters to compensate for the loss.

House of Delegates up in VA, not sure what the final totals will be.

Kilgore is also conceding the race right now as he speaks at the podium.
http://news.nbc12.com/returns/

8 PT, 11 ET

Where is the video of Kilgore conceding?

Thanks, fern, fezzy and andrew.  :)

Uh...if you don't think that some of the people on this forum fit into that area then you are really, really foolish.

8 PM, 11 ET

8 PM, 11 ET

8 PM, 11 ET!!!

I got some yes on Prop 78 thing AFTER I already voted. Something tells me that stuff recieved on election day isn't that effective.

I expected it but I'm just complaining about it.

Also, please don't lecture me about growing thicker skin with this stuff. I'm a conservative Republican in Philadelphia, Sam. I've dealt with much worse before. Thanks.

Phil, you truly are a survivor.  Keep up the fight!

Black power salute.

When you campaign in an area that's very difficult to win, give me a call and mock me.

Democrats are expected to pick up seats in the NJ state house.

lol

Corzine on stage giving his victory speech.

Link?

http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/livestreaming.html

I was out yesterday for a Republican in my neighbourhood.  What's your phone number?

Just looking at the (still very provisional) data on incumbents, looks like 6 Republicans and 2 Democrats are loosing. This still may change and I have no clue about the open seats.

Also, just randomly glancing through results, Republicans might loose a seat in VA - still, no problem for them (half the seats aren't really contested, anyway).

The fact remains that we have a Dem Governor in NJ and a Dem Governor in VA, just like we did before.  Wake me up when something actually changes hands.

Just a caveat to my Democratic friends:  I think that the win in VA was due less to Bush's unpopularity than Mark Warner's popularity and Tim Kaine's likability.  But still, isn't this a great result?!?!?  Two more points and we would've martched Bush in 2004.  This model should be applied throughout the country.  David Brooks puts it best when he tells Democrats "Just forget Bush."  There isn't any advice friendlier than that.  After all, he'll be in Kennebunckport doing whatever he does in about two years.  Ten points behind to five points ahead, that's how a (relatively) positive campaign works! I'll probably infuriate some in my party by saying all of this, but it's what I think.

Not quite: In VA

GOP picks up Dem House Seat (http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128768028483)

Question 1 Veto Gay Rights
216 of 634 precincts - 34 percent

Yes, 61,022 - 43 percent
No, 80,125 - 57 percent

If you don't give two hoots about these races, why do you have banners for each of them in your signature? :P

Ya'll kept a seat in a close election where you had a wildly popular incumbent.  You want a cookie? :P

I care deeply about them.  I am proud of their accomplishments.  Kilgore almost beat a guy running on the coattails of a popular incumbent, and Forrester came from way behind to be only somewhat behind :)

Oh, come off it, you know very well that we'd never hear the end of it from you about how well the GOP is doing if the percentages were reversed. :P

POLLS CLOSED IN CALI.

Let the games begin.

Warner and Kaine on state now.

Hmmph.  See if I ever root for BC Liberals again.

Oh, there isn't another choice.  Damn. :)

I said very difficult to win. Work in an area of your town that is 60% of the other party.

Arnold's Props all have 0 votes. Oh wait.... :)

http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/00.htm

Sure. But there are also some other seats to change hands. The last time I checked Democrats were leading in 38 seats (same as before), Independents in 3 (+1), meaning Reps would loose a seat. Still, this might change 10 times by tomorrow.

Deeds is actually closing the gap.

In CA, the first areas to report tend Republican, as you can see here.

http://www.sdvote.org/election/SANDIEGO110805.xml

I'm very confused about the results in the VA Attorney General's race.  I mean there are two different TV stations posting two different results with 97%  of the precincts counted statewide.

On these two stations they have

On ABC's WRIC in Richmond they are reporting:

Deeds (D)              926,264  50%
McDonnell (R)         913,764  49%

While on CBS's WDBJ in Roanoke they are reporting:

McDonnell (R)        935,448  50%
Deeds (D)             923,983  49%

Can someone give me some more accurate results for this race and maybe explain to me why these two stations are so different with the numbers?   

Bad news for you guys.  Mostly the Bay Area is reporting and all of the races are close.

With only some 50 precincts left to report the gap in VA AG race is back under 5000 votes (.25%). Looking at what's left to report, it is likely that the gap will be smaller - but very unlikely it will be overcome. What are the recount and absentee rules?

Ferrar may have broken 40%. A lot of people were predicting he'd do much worse.

As for those VA results, looks like they have different precincts that they're missing.

But that's with only 10% of the vote or less, I'll hold off on being upset or happy until much later.  Maybe I'll go to bed and get back up say around 2 or 3 am.

Under Virginia law: If an election is within .5% a recount is automatic.

Do ya'll really know/care what these resolutions are for or do you just want to screw Arnold?

I know I was one who did.  :)

However, the turnout today was ridiculously light, maybe the lowest ever for a mayoral race.  Whenever turnout is unexpectedly low, it can screw up polling for the results.

One station accidentally reversed the tallies. The real result (with about 50 precincts to go) is 940,815 (McDonnell R) to 936,162 (Deeds D).  Looking at what's left to report it will be even closer, but it is still unlikelyto reverse, so Dems only real chance is a recount.