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Title: EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 13, 2004, 01:19:50 PM
4 weeks today is the European Parliament Elections. Perhaps all Europeans would like to give some sort of explaination of the choices before them and the reasons for their likely vote.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 13, 2004, 01:27:52 PM
My EU Region is SE England

Parties Running: UKIP, Green, Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat

I am a natural Wet Tory and therefore have inclinations to vote Conservative, however I am generally pro-European in the same vein as Ken Clarke.

I will not vote UKIP for obvious reasons; I will not vote Liberal Democrat because I find them to rabidly anti-Tory. That leaves me with three options, right now I am leaning towards Labour.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 13, 2004, 03:36:11 PM
Well, according to the Wahlomat (www.wahlomat.de) the order of the grade of my identification with the European policies of the several political parties in Germany is as follows:

1. Greens
2. FDP
3. SPD
4. CDU
5. CSU
6. PDS


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 13, 2004, 04:57:34 PM
Hm... I haven't decided yet, but I won't vote for either the Greens or the Left Party - in Sweden they oppose the EU. Probably the Swedish liberal party.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: freek on May 14, 2004, 04:53:58 AM
I'm still in doubt. Normally I vote for the VVD (rightwing liberal) party in all the elections, but I tend to vote for the ChristenUnie/SGP-list (the christian fundamentalists) this time. Not for their views on abortion and euthanasia, because I totally don't agree with them on these points. The European Parliament doesn't have any authority on these points as well, if I am correctly informed.

I do however like their economic stances, they are not as freemarketfundamentalist on these points as the VVD, which I like. They don't want Turkey in the EU, as the only Dutch party, apart from the List Pim Fortuyn.

Other factors why I might be voting for them: I am impressed by the quality of their MPs, if you consider that those parties only score a few percent of the vote in general elections. However voting for them in general elections is out of the question for me, since they have separate lists then. The ChristenUnie is way too much leftwing for me, the SGP too fundamentalist. Their European program is a nice compromise between their views.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: English on May 14, 2004, 05:09:30 AM
I reside in the 'Yorkshire & The Humber' region.
I will be voting for the Green Party for the following reasons...

1) A protest against Labour's Iraq policy (I would normally vote Labour)
2) Don't agree with the Tory stance on Europe (I am pro-europe)
3) Wouldn't vote Liberal Democrat as my local council was LD run and corrupt
4) Would never vote BNP as they're fascists.
5) Would never vote UKIP for obvious reaons.
 
That leaves the Greens.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 14, 2004, 05:18:07 AM
I reside in the 'Yorkshire & The Humber' region.
I will be voting for the Green Party for the following reasons...

1) A protest against Labour's Iraq policy (I would normally vote Labour)
2) Don't agree with the Tory stance on Europe (I am pro-europe)
3) Wouldn't vote Liberal Democrat as my local council was LD run and corrupt
4) Would never vote BNP as they're fascists.
5) Would never vote UKIP for obvious reaons.
 
That leaves the Greens.

You're actually going to vote in the Euro elections? Along with 17% of the electorate...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 15, 2004, 08:52:18 PM
With the turnout being as low as it is going to be, as Al says, there is a possibility of 17% according to the polls, is it possible that the BNP might get an MEP or maybe this Respect Party that is running Galloway in London?

Its a reasonable bet that UKIP and the Greens will do well, but maybe even smaller parties can break through, what about the SSP in Scotland as well?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 16, 2004, 04:55:35 AM
With the turnout being as low as it is going to be, as Al says, there is a possibility of 17% according to the polls, is it possible that the BNP might get an MEP or maybe this Respect Party that is running Galloway in London?

Its a reasonable bet that UKIP and the Greens will do well, but maybe even smaller parties can break through, what about the SSP in Scotland as well?

I don't think Galloway will become an MEP... "Respect" is in direct confrontation with the Greenies who were there first... the BNP has a chance in the North West apparently (see? This is why PR is both undemocratic and stupid)... but they have an even better chance of getting someone elected to the GLA... PR is a f***ing joke... there is no way those Nazi's would ever get close to winning a seat in the old FPTP elected GLC...
On the bright side it means they won't be as focused on local elections.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 16, 2004, 06:47:53 AM
I don't think Galloway will become an MEP... "Respect" is in direct confrontation with the Greenies who were there first... the BNP has a chance in the North West apparently (see? This is why PR is both undemocratic and stupid)... but they have an even better chance of getting someone elected to the GLA... PR is a f***ing joke... there is no way those Nazi's would ever get close to winning a seat in the old FPTP elected GLC...
On the bright side it means they won't be as focused on local elections.

Whilst I certainly do not relish the prospect of having the BNP in any elected position, one can hardly blame the electoral system, when the turnout gets as low as its going to be, it is no surprise that you get some nutcase extremists elected; Don't they need to get a 5% quota before they can qualify for seats?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Umengus on May 16, 2004, 06:51:20 AM
In Belgium: socialist, green, Catholics (center) and liberals. I will vote socialist, as usual.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on May 16, 2004, 10:22:29 AM
I don't think Galloway will become an MEP... "Respect" is in direct confrontation with the Greenies who were there first... the BNP has a chance in the North West apparently (see? This is why PR is both undemocratic and stupid)... but they have an even better chance of getting someone elected to the GLA... PR is a f***ing joke... there is no way those Nazi's would ever get close to winning a seat in the old FPTP elected GLC...
On the bright side it means they won't be as focused on local elections.

Whilst I certainly do not relish the prospect of having the BNP in any elected position, one can hardly blame the electoral system, when the turnout gets as low as its going to be, it is no surprise that you get some nutcase extremists elected; Don't they need to get a 5% quota before they can qualify for seats?

IIRC it's 5% for the GLA and 9% for an MEP in the NW region... the main problem with PR is that it only works will highish turnouts...
On the brightside the low turnout makes "Martin Bell MEP" more likely.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: andrewa on May 17, 2004, 10:42:39 AM
In Italy: Governement area: Forza Italia (Berlusconi's party, center-right), Alleanza Nazionale (post fascist party), Lega Nord (North League, local party), UDC (center party allied with Berlusconi).
Opposition area: little Olive-tree coalition (with DS, center-left, Margherita center-left, SDI social-democrati), Italia dei Valori (party of jude Di Pietro, the hand cleaner), Green Party , Communist Party and many others (consumers party...)
I'm for United Nations in Iraq, and against the actual economic decline of my country.
If the little Olive tree will be over 35%, and Forza Italia will stay at 22%, the center-left can win 2006 politics elections.    


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on May 17, 2004, 02:18:08 PM
I translated the German test with Babelfish and actually came out with the answer I suspected - FDP!

1. FDP
2. CDU
3. Alliance 90/Greens
4. SPD
5. CSU
6. Party of Democratic Socialism


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: minionofmidas on May 17, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
Well, according to the Wahlomat (www.wahlomat.de) the order of the grade of my identification with the European policies of the several political parties in Germany is as follows:

1. Greens
2. FDP
3. SPD
4. CDU
5. CSU
6. PDS
That's odd.
I got
1 Greens
2 PDS
3 SPD
4 CDU
5 FDP
6 CSU
In 2002 I always got PDS ahead, but I voted Green anyways. And I will do so now, too.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 17, 2004, 03:13:32 PM
Hm... I haven't decided yet, but I won't vote for either the Greens or the Left Party - in Sweden they oppose the EU. Probably the Swedish liberal party.

Argh! ;)

At least vote for Bijan Fahimi in that case, he's a reasonable person...he has some EU-scepticism, but far from enough... ;)

I would, if I could vote, probably vote for Junilistan, the June List. They're EU-critical, though not as much as I would like, and reasonable on the issues. The other parties are all either pro-EU (M, FP, C, KD and SAP) or just plain whackos (V, MP).


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on May 19, 2004, 07:49:37 AM
Well, according to the Wahlomat (www.wahlomat.de) the order of the grade of my identification with the European policies of the several political parties in Germany is as follows:

1. Greens
2. FDP
3. SPD
4. CDU
5. CSU
6. PDS
That's odd.
I got
1 Greens
2 PDS
3 SPD
4 CDU
5 FDP
6 CSU
In 2002 I always got PDS ahead, but I voted Green anyways. And I will do so now, too.
ARE YOU THAT LEFTIST???????? PDS? WHY HELL????

*Loading his rifle*

I will vote conservatives (National Coalition Party) as always. Probably for one ultra libertarian chick who is very pro EU, pro NATO membership and pro USA. It's kind of protest vote I think. She is very hated by Left, about my age and already member of European Parliament.



Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 19, 2004, 08:21:45 AM
It's a shame we don't have any Pro-Euro Conservatives in Britain else I would certainly vote for them; Ken Clarke and his merry men should do their pro-Euro thing like they did in 1999.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 19, 2004, 10:34:31 AM
I translated the German test with Babelfish and actually came out with the answer I suspected - FDP!

1. FDP
2. CDU
3. Alliance 90/Greens
4. SPD
5. CSU
6. Party of Democratic Socialism

That´s a... um, interesting result... CDU on the 2nd place, but the CSU on the 5th, with Greens and SPD between them. ;) Concluding from your results I would say you are some sort of libertarian with both conservative and ecologist leanings. :D


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 19, 2004, 10:36:04 AM
That's odd.
I got
1 Greens
2 PDS
3 SPD
4 CDU
5 FDP
6 CSU
In 2002 I always got PDS ahead, but I voted Green anyways. And I will do so now, too.
ARE YOU THAT LEFTIST???????? PDS? WHY HELL????

*Loading his rifle*

My mother votes PDS.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: CO-OWL on May 19, 2004, 12:43:56 PM
Well, according to the Wahlomat (www.wahlomat.de) the order of the grade of my identification with the European policies of the several political parties in Germany is as follows:

1. Greens
2. FDP
3. SPD
4. CDU
5. CSU
6. PDS
I got:
1. CDU
2. CSU
3. FDP
4. SPD
5. Greens
6. PDS
No surprise. I'll vote CDU as usual.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on May 19, 2004, 05:52:26 PM
That's odd.
I got
1 Greens
2 PDS
3 SPD
4 CDU
5 FDP
6 CSU
In 2002 I always got PDS ahead, but I voted Green anyways. And I will do so now, too.
ARE YOU THAT LEFTIST???????? PDS? WHY HELL????

*Loading his rifle*

My mother votes PDS.
*Puting the gun away*

Mothers are holy. But why does she vote for them?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: bullmoose88 on May 19, 2004, 08:04:37 PM
FDP      
CDU      
SPD      
CSU      
Alliance 90/Die the Green    
Party of Democratic Socialism

SPD number 3 (and actually in some agreement?)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on May 19, 2004, 08:15:12 PM
Hooray fellow FDP'er :)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 20, 2004, 06:43:42 AM
*Puting the gun away*

Mothers are holy. But why does she vote for them?

Well... um... good question. She´s not here, otherwise I could ask her. :D

She´s not a communist, if you thought that. I think most PDS voters aren´t. Aside from being a pacifist (she usually voted for the Greens until 1999, when they backed the NATO intevention in the Kosovo) I suppose she votes for the PDS for the same reason most other PDS voters go for that particular political party: East Germans who are pissed off by the "West German-dominated" Federal republic because their home country (although they disagreed with its political elite) was "annexed" in 1990.

The PDS presents itself as party, which is pursuing "East German interests". Anyway, I think it has a lot to do with psychology. I do not pretend to fully understand it either. I was still a child when the wall came down and my political socialication took place mainly during the 1990ies after the re-unification. Well, sometimes I´m successful in persuading her to vote for SPD or the Greens. :D


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: freek on May 20, 2004, 07:38:16 AM
To test which European fraction fits you best:

http://www.votematch.net/index.htm (http://www.votematch.net/index.htm)

And in case you want to know on who to vote in the Dutch European Elections, the English language variant of the Stemwijzer:

http://www.stemwijzer.nl/235 (http://www.stemwijzer.nl/235)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on May 20, 2004, 08:07:21 AM
www.votematch.net results:
Much agreement (in order):
1. ELDR
2. PES
3. Greens
4. EPP
Little agreement:
5. NGL/GUE
6. EDD
7. UEN

I am likely to vote PES (labour) or Green (Green)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: minionofmidas on May 20, 2004, 11:02:00 AM
1 Greens
2 PES
3 ELDR
4 GUE/NGL
5 EPP
6 UEN
7 EDD
First four were positive.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on May 20, 2004, 11:06:54 AM
*Puting the gun away*

Mothers are holy. But why does she vote for them?

Well... um... good question. She´s not here, otherwise I could ask her. :D

She´s not a communist, if you thought that. I think most PDS voters aren´t. Aside from being a pacifist (she usually voted for the Greens until 1999, when they backed the NATO intevention in the Kosovo) I suppose she votes for the PDS for the same reason most other PDS voters go for that particular political party: East Germans who are pissed off by the "West German-dominated" Federal republic because their home country (although they disagreed with its political elite) was "annexed" in 1990.

The PDS presents itself as party, which is pursuing "East German interests". Anyway, I think it has a lot to do with psychology. I do not pretend to fully understand it either. I was still a child when the wall came down and my political socialication took place mainly during the 1990ies after the re-unification. Well, sometimes I´m successful in persuading her to vote for SPD or the Greens. :D
My political socialisation took place in late 1980's when the wall came down. It's probably most important reason why I become the conservative. I think that my generation (born in early 70's) is fairly conservative because of collapse of communism.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: freek on May 20, 2004, 12:50:48 PM
1 EPP
2 UEN
3 EDD
4 ELDR
5 Greens
6 GUE/NGL
7 PES

I've got absolutely no idea how I managed to get a moderate party as the PES on the 7th spot. :).


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 21, 2004, 12:06:33 PM
I am not surprised...EDD in first place. If I could vote I'd vote for the Swedish party which is linked to the EDD.

EDD

UEN

(those were the only 2 with which I had major agreement)

GUE/NGL

--------------------

I disagreed with all others, most with the PES.

European Greens

ELDR

EPP-ED

PES



Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on May 21, 2004, 12:33:02 PM
Much agreement:
1. EDD
2. ELDR
3. UEN
4. EPP
5. Greens

No agreement:
GUE/NGL
PES


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 21, 2004, 12:50:33 PM
Much agreement:
1. EDD
2. ELDR
3. UEN
4. EPP
5. Greens

No agreement:
GUE/NGL
PES
Not too bad. :) Fairly close to me at any rate. :)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: ilikeverin on May 21, 2004, 04:29:13 PM
Positive:
1. ELDR
2. PES
3. EPP
4. Greens

Absolutely Neutral ?!?:
5. GUE/NGL

Negative:
6. UEN
7. EDD

Urr... I just randomly clicked on things when I didn't know based on a vague feeling... I suppose I should've clicked "Don't Know" :P


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 22, 2004, 06:11:23 AM
Much Agreement:
1. PES
2. ELDR
3. European Greens
4. EPP
5. GUE/NGL

Little Agreement:
6. UEN
7. EDD


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Nym90 on May 23, 2004, 12:30:05 PM
Freek--

You should register to vote in the fantasy elections. We have a presidential election coming up in June. You need to pick a home state in the US, and then either change your avatar to that state or include a statement in your signature saying what your home state is. Here's the link...

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2153;start=330


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: ilikeverin on May 23, 2004, 12:43:45 PM
Much Agreement:
1. PES
2. ELDR
3. European Greens
4. EPP
5. GUE/NGL

Little Agreement:
6. UEN
7. EDD

Cool!  Go us 8)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 29, 2004, 02:20:43 PM
Nice test. I'm an EU enthusiast, just as I thought. And suitably I'll vote for a party belonging to the ELDR.

Positive:
1. ELDR (liberals, in the European sense of the word)
2. PES (social democrats)
3. EPP (christian democrats and conservatives)
4. Greens

Negative:
5. GUE/NGL (leftists and former or current communists)
6. EDD (EU skeptics)
7. UEN (ultra right)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: YoMartin on May 29, 2004, 03:32:35 PM
With the turnout being as low as it is going to be, as Al says, there is a possibility of 17% according to the polls, is it possible that the BNP might get an MEP or maybe this Respect Party that is running Galloway in London?

Its a reasonable bet that UKIP and the Greens will do well, but maybe even smaller parties can break through, what about the SSP in Scotland as well?

I don't think Galloway will become an MEP... "Respect" is in direct confrontation with the Greenies who were there first... the BNP has a chance in the North West apparently (see? This is why PR is both undemocratic and stupid)... but they have an even better chance of getting someone elected to the GLA... PR is a f***ing joke... there is no way those Nazi's would ever get close to winning a seat in the old FPTP elected GLC...
On the bright side it means they won't be as focused on local elections.

It´s not "undemocratic" when people choose someone we don´t like. Quite the contrary...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 29, 2004, 04:20:11 PM
I am not surprised...EDD in first place. If I could vote I'd vote for the Swedish party which is linked to the EDD.

EDD

UEN

(those were the only 2 with which I had major agreement)

GUE/NGL

--------------------

I disagreed with all others, most with the PES.

European Greens

ELDR

EPP-ED

PES

The ultra right in second place. Now that's scary, Gustaf!


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 29, 2004, 06:44:38 PM
I am not surprised...EDD in first place. If I could vote I'd vote for the Swedish party which is linked to the EDD.

EDD

UEN

(those were the only 2 with which I had major agreement)

GUE/NGL

--------------------

I disagreed with all others, most with the PES.

European Greens

ELDR

EPP-ED

PES

The ultra right in second place. Now that's scary, Gustaf!

Not as scary as having the ELDR in first place, I'd say... ;)

I'm anti-EU, and so are they..what can I say? :( I would never vote for a bunch of right-winged whackos, of course... :)

I wouldn't say ELDR are all that liberal...they're about as liberal as the old People's Party in Sweden.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 29, 2004, 07:34:06 PM
The old People's Party, what's that? Frisinnade landspartiet? I don't understand your comparison in that case. ELDR is, as I understand it, sort of like Folkpartiet. It includes the Liberal Democrats of the UK, for example. And I think it is the most pro-EU-group too, isn't that right? Explains why you think it's scary. Please sort this out for me, Nils Lundgren-fantasten. :)

Förresten... du är inte släkt med honom?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2004, 12:31:02 PM
The old People's Party, what's that? Frisinnade landspartiet? I don't understand your comparison in that case. ELDR is, as I understand it, sort of like Folkpartiet. It includes the Liberal Democrats of the UK, for example. And I think it is the most pro-EU-group too, isn't that right? Explains why you think it's scary. Please sort this out for me, Nils Lundgren-fantasten. :)

Förresten... du är inte släkt med honom?

Hehe, I simply meant pre-pseudo-fascist opportunist era...like the People's Party of, say, 5 years ago. :)

The ELDR is about as liberal as that, which means not much... ;)

I don't know where you get the idea that I'm a fan of him...I mean, the man wants us too remain a member of the EU! ;)

I don't really want to give away my exact identity on the internet...even though I admittedly don't go to great lengths to keep it a secret either. So I wouldn't answer questions like that, at least not in an open message...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: JohnFKennedy on May 30, 2004, 12:47:47 PM
Much Agreement
1. EDD
2. UEN
3. GUE/NGL

Neutral
4. ELDR

Little Agreement
5. European Greens
6. EPP
7. PES


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 30, 2004, 01:31:06 PM
The old People's Party, what's that? Frisinnade landspartiet? I don't understand your comparison in that case. ELDR is, as I understand it, sort of like Folkpartiet. It includes the Liberal Democrats of the UK, for example. And I think it is the most pro-EU-group too, isn't that right? Explains why you think it's scary. Please sort this out for me, Nils Lundgren-fantasten. :)

Förresten... du är inte släkt med honom?

Hehe, I simply meant pre-pseudo-fascist opportunist era...like the People's Party of, say, 5 years ago. :)

The ELDR is about as liberal as that, which means not much... ;)

I don't know where you get the idea that I'm a fan of him...I mean, the man wants us too remain a member of the EU! ;)

I don't really want to give away my exact identity on the internet...even though I admittedly don't go to great lengths to keep it a secret either. So I wouldn't answer questions like that, at least not in an open message...

Ah, you think my liberalism is too unorthodox... :)

Hm... kryptiskt svar. Han är på tv och du försvinner från forumet... det finns ju klara likheter mellan hans sätt att argumentera och ditt, båda är ni nationalstatsförespråkare... hm... skulle också kunna förklara varför du är så intresserad och kunnig trots din ringa ålder... hm... hm...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2004, 01:47:23 PM
The old People's Party, what's that? Frisinnade landspartiet? I don't understand your comparison in that case. ELDR is, as I understand it, sort of like Folkpartiet. It includes the Liberal Democrats of the UK, for example. And I think it is the most pro-EU-group too, isn't that right? Explains why you think it's scary. Please sort this out for me, Nils Lundgren-fantasten. :)

Förresten... du är inte släkt med honom?

Hehe, I simply meant pre-pseudo-fascist opportunist era...like the People's Party of, say, 5 years ago. :)

The ELDR is about as liberal as that, which means not much... ;)

I don't know where you get the idea that I'm a fan of him...I mean, the man wants us too remain a member of the EU! ;)

I don't really want to give away my exact identity on the internet...even though I admittedly don't go to great lengths to keep it a secret either. So I wouldn't answer questions like that, at least not in an open message...

Ah, you think my liberalism is too unorthodox... :)

Hm... kryptiskt svar. Han är på tv och du försvinner från forumet... det finns ju klara likheter mellan hans sätt att argumentera och ditt, båda är ni nationalstatsförespråkare... hm... skulle också kunna förklara varför du är så intresserad och kunnig trots din ringa ålder... hm... hm...

I used to be a libertarian, the anti-FP reflexes are still there... :)

Lol...faktum är att jag tittade på Agenda-debatten... ;) Man måste ju hänga med...fattar inte varför han inte nailade Centerns BS om smalare men vassare EU...ett parti som förespråkar jordbrukspolitiken kan inte rimligen mena det. Och att använda kriget på Balkan är ju löjligt...jag finner det alltid att smått komiskt att vad dessa varma EU-förespråkare antyder när de vill svskaffa vetorätten är att vissa av våra kära Europeiska vänner gärna skulle se lite bosnier stryka med och därför stoppa en resolut aktion...vilket liksom talar emot själva grundtanken med samarbetet.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 30, 2004, 02:03:57 PM
Inte förespråkar centern en oförändad jordbrukspolitik?

Visst finns det sprickor här och var i EU-samarbetet, särskilt vad gäller försvarspolitiken...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2004, 02:07:38 PM
Inte förespråkar centern en oförändad jordbrukspolitik?

Visst finns det sprickor här och var i EU-samarbetet, särskilt vad gäller försvarspolitiken...

Läs deras nya rapport...även om de vill göra en del typiskt svenska mes-reformer (vi ska vara snällare mot djuren, etc) motsätter de sig en ensidig Europeisk avreglering som skulle kunna öppna upp för konkurrens från Latinamerika och de motsätter sig bestämt en åternationalisering av jordbruket. Ringer det en klocka om jag säger Bondeförbundet? ;)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on May 30, 2004, 02:18:20 PM
Inskränkta dumma tölpar! Bakåtsträvande lantbruksromantiker och intresseparti för landsbygden!


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2004, 02:24:24 PM
Inskränkta dumma tölpar! Bakåtsträvande lantbruksromantiker och intresseparti för landsbygden!

That's the way...good boy, see what I mean? :) "smalare men vassare", jo jag tackar!


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on June 02, 2004, 10:02:33 AM
www.votematch.net

My result!  (Tai minun tulokseni, jos täällä puhutaan omaa kieltä. Vai mitä Gustaf ja Iidaker? Perkele!)

1. EPP (Much agreement)
2. ELDR (Much agreement)
3. PES (Neutral)
4. European Greens (Little disagreement. Should be much)
5. EDD (Little disagreement. Should be much)
6. UEN (Little disagreement Should be very much)
7. GUE/NGL (Little disagreement. Should be very much!)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on June 03, 2004, 09:58:01 AM
I think what the test was leaning toward was the possibility of taxing personal incomes, which it presently does not do. Even then, its present taxation powers are very limited in scope.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 03, 2004, 02:01:02 PM
I think what the test was leaning toward was the possibility of taxing personal incomes, which it presently does not do. Even then, its present taxation powers are very limited in scope.

What? I thought the EU did not have taxation powers? ???

I thought that the fee we pay to the EU was from tax money collected by the national governments? Or am I missing something?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Peter on June 03, 2004, 05:41:12 PM
I think what the test was leaning toward was the possibility of taxing personal incomes, which it presently does not do. Even then, its present taxation powers are very limited in scope.

What? I thought the EU did not have taxation powers? ???

I thought that the fee we pay to the EU was from tax money collected by the national governments? Or am I missing something?

I think there are a few universally agreed taxes against businesses for environmental reasons (essentially green taxes), there are no taxes on personal incomes.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 03, 2004, 06:01:38 PM
I think what the test was leaning toward was the possibility of taxing personal incomes, which it presently does not do. Even then, its present taxation powers are very limited in scope.

What? I thought the EU did not have taxation powers? ???

I thought that the fee we pay to the EU was from tax money collected by the national governments? Or am I missing something?

I think there are a few universally agreed taxes against businesses for environmental reasons (essentially green taxes), there are no taxes on personal incomes.

I don't think so...it's one of the issues in the Swedish debate. Our former EU-sceptic, now born-again federalist agrarians argues that we should introduce "green taxes" on the EU-level and the Social Democrats said firmly no, our PM claiming that it would be fundamentally at odds with Swedish soverignity to give the EU taxation powers. (one of the few times where I felt in agreement with the guy)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on June 07, 2004, 08:44:28 AM
hUCK
Hauska testi
suomalaisessa vaalikoneessa (TS)
sain parhaiksi puolueiksi KESK RKP SKP

Here are my results
problem was that many questions were inadequate
for example EU has allready taxation powers


EDD
GUE/NGL
ELDR
UEN
PES
GREENS
EPP
Hieman outo yhdistelmä. RKP, KESK, SKP?? Minulle tulee aina Kokoomus. Joskus mukana RKP, LIB. Aion äänestää Piia-Noora Kauppia. Siinä on mukana ripaus protestia demari hegemoniaa vastaan.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: WMS on June 07, 2004, 11:33:46 PM
To test which European fraction fits you best:

http://www.votematch.net/index.htm (http://www.votematch.net/index.htm)

And in case you want to know on who to vote in the Dutch European Elections, the English language variant of the Stemwijzer:

http://www.stemwijzer.nl/235 (http://www.stemwijzer.nl/235)
Hmm...this has the feel of a test that could have different results each time I take it...
First link:
1. EPP - Much agreement (YES!) :)
2. UEN - A bit of agreement (hmm... ;) )
3. ELDR - fraction on right/neutral
4. GUE/NGL - fraction on right/neutral
5. PES - fraction on left/neutral
6. EDD - fraction on left/neutral
7. Greens - Some disagreement (mirror of UEN) - take that, Greenies! :P

Second link:
1. LPF - Much agreement (hey, OK! :) )
2. VVD - Some agreement (also OK)
3. CDA - Fraction on right/neutral (OK too)
4. D66 - Neutral
5. PvdA - Neutral
6. SP - Fraction on left/neutral (more disagreement than that)
7. ChristenUnie/SGP - Some disagreement
8. GroenLinks - A bit more disagreement (YAY! ;) )

I wouldn't be your typical European, would I? ;D


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: freek on June 08, 2004, 06:42:51 AM

Hmm...this has the feel of a test that could have different results each time I take it...
First link:

Second link:
But between both tests not much difference can be seen. You have the Dutch parties in about the same order as their respective fractions in the Europarliament.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: WMS on June 08, 2004, 11:31:50 PM

Hmm...this has the feel of a test that could have different results each time I take it...
First link:

Second link:
But between both tests not much difference can be seen. You have the Dutch parties in about the same order as their respective fractions in the Europarliament.

Well, maybe I was wrong then. :P

But I'm still happy with my main parties! :D I guess Lewis was right - I would fit in quite well in a European-style conservative/Christian Democratic party...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 01:44:24 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 01:49:34 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 01:54:32 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 01:57:04 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 02:05:38 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 02:07:24 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 02:18:40 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 02:34:42 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 02:36:44 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 02:42:05 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......

:o

This was a definite shocker...I wonder if I misunderstood some of the Danish?

Politikere tættest på dine svar:
  Rina Ronja Kari (Folkebev.) : 86 point
  Holger Nielsen Garner (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Christian Thygesen (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Thorkil Sohn (Folkebev.) : 81 point
  Gustav Sieg Sørensen (Folkebev.) : 81 point

Politikere længst fra dine svar:
  Stefan Seidler (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Steen Nielsen (Soc. Dem.) : 54 point
  Adam Lebech (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Camilla Hersom (Rad. V.) : 53 point
  Einer Lyduch (Soc. Dem.) : 51 point

It seems like I'm an FB-voter then... ???


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 03:05:43 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......

:o

This was a definite shocker...I wonder if I misunderstood some of the Danish?

Politikere tættest på dine svar:
  Rina Ronja Kari (Folkebev.) : 86 point
  Holger Nielsen Garner (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Christian Thygesen (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Thorkil Sohn (Folkebev.) : 81 point
  Gustav Sieg Sørensen (Folkebev.) : 81 point

Politikere længst fra dine svar:
  Stefan Seidler (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Steen Nielsen (Soc. Dem.) : 54 point
  Adam Lebech (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Camilla Hersom (Rad. V.) : 53 point
  Einer Lyduch (Soc. Dem.) : 51 point

It seems like I'm an FB-voter then... ???
Aparently. I don't know any of the FB-people, but by looking at Rina Ronja Kari http://rina.folkebevaegelsen.dk/ I can see that she is very leftwing (Det frie Gymnasium is a left wing Mecca) but she is almost your age ;) :D


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......

:o

This was a definite shocker...I wonder if I misunderstood some of the Danish?

Politikere tættest på dine svar:
  Rina Ronja Kari (Folkebev.) : 86 point
  Holger Nielsen Garner (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Christian Thygesen (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Thorkil Sohn (Folkebev.) : 81 point
  Gustav Sieg Sørensen (Folkebev.) : 81 point

Politikere længst fra dine svar:
  Stefan Seidler (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Steen Nielsen (Soc. Dem.) : 54 point
  Adam Lebech (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Camilla Hersom (Rad. V.) : 53 point
  Einer Lyduch (Soc. Dem.) : 51 point

It seems like I'm an FB-voter then... ???
Aparently. I don't know any of the FB-people, but by looking at Rina Ronja Kari http://rina.folkebevaegelsen.dk/ I can see that she is very leftwing (Det frie Gymnasium is a left wing Mecca) but she is almost your age ;) :D

Well...that's good I guess... ???


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Jens on June 12, 2004, 04:56:58 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......

:o

This was a definite shocker...I wonder if I misunderstood some of the Danish?

Politikere tættest på dine svar:
  Rina Ronja Kari (Folkebev.) : 86 point
  Holger Nielsen Garner (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Christian Thygesen (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Thorkil Sohn (Folkebev.) : 81 point
  Gustav Sieg Sørensen (Folkebev.) : 81 point

Politikere længst fra dine svar:
  Stefan Seidler (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Steen Nielsen (Soc. Dem.) : 54 point
  Adam Lebech (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Camilla Hersom (Rad. V.) : 53 point
  Einer Lyduch (Soc. Dem.) : 51 point

It seems like I'm an FB-voter then... ???
Aparently. I don't know any of the FB-people, but by looking at Rina Ronja Kari http://rina.folkebevaegelsen.dk/ I can see that she is very leftwing (Det frie Gymnasium is a left wing Mecca) but she is almost your age ;) :D

Well...that's good I guess... ???
Just kidding ;) Have a pleasant election tomorrow. Let's see is Folkebevægelsen gets a mandate. It does not look that good for them in the polls


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 12, 2004, 05:57:13 PM
Always a bit on the late side, but took the test

Much agreement:
1. GUE/NGL (Good thing since I'm voting for them tomorrow)
2. European Greens
3. PES
4. ELDR

Little Agreement:

5. EDD
6. UEN
7. EPP

It fits, lucky me. (Last EP-election, I did a Danish test and hit spot on the person I already wanted to vote for!!!)


What GUE/NGL party? Not folkbevaegelsen I gather, but socialistiske venstre?

Don't worry, of course i'm voting Socialistisk Folkeparti (or Socialist Peoples Party , which sounds like a hardcore communist party from Vietnam or DDR :D ) FB er loonies

I don't know about worrying, I'd probably vote FB over SF... ;)

Ah, yes socialistisk folkeparti...I think I mixed them up with the Norwegian counterpart...should have remembered that all Danish parties have folkeparti in their names. :)
Yes most have, but our christian party has just changed its name from Kristelig Folkeparti (Christian Peoples Party) to Kristendemokraterne (Christian Democrats) and has got a lovely ;) purple colour as their party colour
- And jurging by our statements on this forum I think that you would vote Junibevægelsen (June Movement) if you had the change. FB are way to left wing

Hehe...purple? ??? :D

Yes, my vote would go to one of the 2 (?) conservatives on Junibevaegelsn's ballot. I was just saying that out of the 2 above mentioned parties, I would probably rather vote FB... ;)

Try DR's election page and tell me who you hit. Lets see if you are right about that FB/JB-thing
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/eu-valg/index.jhtml?targetUrl=/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/eu/tema/ep-valg/test/index.htm

Sure. :) Back in aminute...
The tension is killing me......

:o

This was a definite shocker...I wonder if I misunderstood some of the Danish?

Politikere tættest på dine svar:
  Rina Ronja Kari (Folkebev.) : 86 point
  Holger Nielsen Garner (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Christian Thygesen (Folkebev.) : 83 point
  Thorkil Sohn (Folkebev.) : 81 point
  Gustav Sieg Sørensen (Folkebev.) : 81 point

Politikere længst fra dine svar:
  Stefan Seidler (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Steen Nielsen (Soc. Dem.) : 54 point
  Adam Lebech (Rad. V.) : 54 point
  Camilla Hersom (Rad. V.) : 53 point
  Einer Lyduch (Soc. Dem.) : 51 point

It seems like I'm an FB-voter then... ???
Aparently. I don't know any of the FB-people, but by looking at Rina Ronja Kari http://rina.folkebevaegelsen.dk/ I can see that she is very leftwing (Det frie Gymnasium is a left wing Mecca) but she is almost your age ;) :D

Well...that's good I guess... ???
Just kidding ;) Have a pleasant election tomorrow. Let's see is Folkebevægelsen gets a mandate. It does not look that good for them in the polls

Well, as long as Junilistan gets in, I'm happy. have to get up at 7 or 6.45 tomorrow to hand out ballots... *yawn*


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on June 15, 2004, 05:10:10 AM
Grattis, Gustaf! Seems like your family suddenly has three seats in the EU parliament :)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 16, 2004, 05:48:56 AM
Grattis, Gustaf! Seems like your family suddenly has three seats in the EU parliament :)

:)

Gotten over it now? ;) It seems like Maria Carlshamre will beat Schmidt for the 2nd FP-seat, are you happy about that? I am, she seems less enthusiastic about the union than him.


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: lidaker on June 16, 2004, 10:17:47 AM
Sure, I've gotten over it... there were nice things about the election too, such as the social dems getting 24%! Feels good! When it comes to Carlshamre or Schmidt I don't really care, but I would prefer Schmidt since he has the routine necessary to accomplish something. Sending all these non-political people to Brussels won't solve much ;)


Title: Re:EU Parliament Elections
Post by: Gustaf on June 16, 2004, 05:59:27 PM
Sure, I've gotten over it... there were nice things about the election too, such as the social dems getting 24%! Feels good! When it comes to Carlshamre or Schmidt I don't really care, but I would prefer Schmidt since he has the routine necessary to accomplish something. Sending all these non-political people to Brussels won't solve much ;)

Typical FP-thinking... :P I think it's better for people with real competence and experience, rather than power-hungry bureacrats to go into politics... ;)