Talk Elections

I have changed my alliance from Dean to edwards, but will support Dean if Edwards falters in Iowa.

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Am I the only one that thinks he looks like a Kennedy in that picture?

What brings this change Miami?

It looks like you're in the same dilemma as me. As I said before, my head says Edwards but my heart says Dean.

Edwards has always been my favorite, really---he reminds me alot of Clinton.  but, I never thought he could win the nomination until now.  He is in a statistical dead heat in Iowa, and if he wins that....Edwards2K4

Hmmm maybe a Kennedy but I think he looks a heck of a lot like Kerry in that photo anyway

Only his hair looks like Kennedy.

I am all for Edwards, I like the guy.  

Here is the Kucinich Kennedy:

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ROFL!!!!

just like dean, flip flop Mr chairman? he he

I love the Kucinich Kennedy picture.

In my opinion Edwards has a good chance of beating Bush. The only thing that speaks against him is his inexperience, but then they said the same about JFK. Still, something tells me he'd be more suited as a running mate. Call it a gut feeling.

Anything other than a Dean victory in Iowa would still shock me, regardless of the polls, but let's wait and see.

I'd be very happy to see Edwards as the nominee. (Rhyme unintentional.)

Forgive my ignorance - what does ROFL stand for?

Rolling On the Floor Laughing

thanks everyone for helping me.... i think edwards and besides kerry i would vote for him as my second choice

That's a big picture, MAS....
Nice to see you got it up.

thanks... i had a picture of a lapel pin..but it was too big.. so i took the bumper sticker... im trying to find a smaller one.. glad to see that you changed from dean to edwards... i like edwards hes a good guy.. hes my number 2 candidate

YOU REALLY FINALLY DID IT! Congatulations! :) :) :)

All fo them probably are good guys.

My support has changed multiple times over the past months.  I orignally supported Kerry, then Edwards, then Karry, then Gephardt, then Dean, then Gephardt again.  Right now I'd like either Dean or Gephardt, but I'd perfer Gephardt.

Luckily (or not) I don't live in an early primary state so I have no say in the matter!

personally i would never vote for gephardt for president. how can you elect a man with no personality? i have always supported kerry, but in the very beginning i liked kerry,edwards, and clark... now im a kerry man... but i would without a doubt support edwards for the VP nom...

I thought that you're left liberal Miamiu? Doesn't Edwards be too conservative for you?

I also like him. Very charismatic guy and makes Bush seems like old man. Also as a vice president candidate...Edwards vs. Cheney. Edwards would increase to young voters and (with his looks) women support to Democrats. It's pretty  surprising that he is already 50. Looks younger. Personally I believe that Bush won in 2000 because he was more handsome than Gore (So ladies told) It was tight race. There are lot of people who don't understand anything about politics and go to vote nevertheless. I think that there was these few thousand voters in Florida who decided it in that way. Of cource there was several and several groups who decided to vote for bush for several other reasons. Beautycontest-thing was only one.


 

That's an interesting theory...might well have been true of Kennedy in 1960.

MaimiU is not that far to the left, at least that's what he told us during the election campaign. Btw, Finn, why don't you register to vote in the forum-elections? We need every vote we can get, and we are allowed! :)

*this poll excludes the two remaining jokers

These are the democrats I wouldn't mind winning if there absolutely had to be a dem president:
Lieberman
Edwards

These are the dems with the worst chances in the gen. electeion:
Dean
Kerry

These are the dems with a decent chance in the gen. election:
Lieberman
Edwards
Clark

So, as you can see, Clark would be in my mind the worst possible outcome of the dem primary. e has a chance of winning if Bush maes mistakes, and he would be a terrible president.

My loyalty in this one has been all over the board.  Fortunately the PA primary is a long way off.

I started off looking purely at resumes and supported Kerry.  Then I attended a Dean meetup and switched to him.  After watching several debates I found myself moving towards Edwards.  The other night I attended a John Kerry rally and heard Chris Heinz speak (impressive guy) and now I'm torn somewhere between Kerry & Edwards.

In a perfect world I would get Edwards with Kerry's resume.

Not after today.  

Thats great I vote defiantly vote for a Edwards with kERyys resume

I like Edwards too. I will vote for Clark in Michigan's Primary, but my second choice would be Edwards. Thinking of it, Edwards reminds me of Kennedy, of course, but also of Dan Quale in a way, since Quale was a young Senator too, and Edwards is young and a junior Senator.

its obvious that edwards wont win the nomination... so then why is he not seeking reelection to the senate or a possible vp nom?

Because his senate reelection would be VERY tough.  He is running vs a Popular Rep in Richard Burr that raised 5 million dollars and has been campaigning a year already.

VP, who knows , I think that is his best bet and keeps him alive in 2008.

Never have I seen such a good line-up of Pres. hopefuls....was looking at a list the other day, with their qualifications, and I realized that every one could do a good job, whether as elected or in an emergency.  All presented  as well-grounded, and brought genuine experience.  No wonder people have a hard time choosing--they're good.  Al Sharpton was good, too, sharp as a tack (couldn't resist) and this is the first chance I've had to hear him speak.  I doubt we'll ever see such a broad, qualified field like this again.   Bush must have brought out even the most reluctant......

BTW, I'm started reading O'Neill's book, and Bush doesn't sound very affable at all, and would be impossible to like on even a personal level.--a spoiled jerk, that doesn't seem to track.......in fact, he gives people nicknames so he can put them down.   But I'm biased.

Have you read about Clark's flip-flops on Iraq? And also, what's this I hear about his abortion stands, they seemed a little extreme, but I haven't understood it all yet.

Is he to the right of me?  Yes he is.  But all of the major candidates are to the right of me, so that matters very little.

He isn't so conservative that I can't identify with his beliefs.

They say Edwards is everyone's second choice. It's interesting how that could play out with undecideds.

Excellent point. Edwards is a "dark horse" candidate, ie; his % of the vote could go sharply up when the votes are counted.

I support Edwards because:

a) He is the closest ideological match to me of the candidates (ie; economic populist)
b) He seems like a nice guy

Shut up with the "nice guy" crap.  Who cares if they are nice guys?

Swing voters do.
Seriously... it's an advantage for him :)
People like people that appear to be people that would like them.
Look at Lorne Calvert for example.

Who is Lorne Calvert?

Yeah, who is that? Good point, btw, Al, the nice guy image is a valuable asset and is one of the things that pushed me towards Edwards.

I think it is another way of saying he's got charisma.

The Premier of Saskatchwan (NDP) .
He was re-elected last year, despite trailing the Saskatchwan Party by 7% at the start of the election.
One reason for this was that he was seen as "a nice guy", while his opponent was seen as a slippery political operative.

Yes, looking professional is always bad. That's what happened in Sweden in the greatest political upset in our history last year.

Btw, RP, don't assume that we know all these obscure politicians that you know about...coz we don't! ;)

i care if hes a ncie guy. i want my president to have a good personality.Thats something that people like Gephardt lack, Edwards seems genuine.

That's right! What about Kerry then? ;)

If you want a likeable candidate, Kerry ain't your guy.

He has a big Kerry poster on his posts, so I thought it was reasonable to ask... ;)

there is others things that i look for in a candidate besides just that, i feel that Kerry is the best qualified,  he might not have the best personality but it suits me good enough... hes the most electable...to the personality if its extreme loser like gephardt well then defiantly not

OK, then. Is Kerry really the most electable? I thought Edwards would definitely hold that position.

im sorry gustaf i meant to me... yes edwards is very electable probably more then kerry in general... but i dont understand y edwards isnt seeking reelection for senate or a poss VP run...

Ah, I get it. That's another way of looking at it, I suppose. What I hear of Edwards is that he wouldn't win reelection, so that wasn't an option, and he can't say he wants to be VP, his chances for that might actually improve if he manages a good campaign now.

thats kinda sad, he cant win reelection to the senate but hes trying to be president...lol...

Edwards probably wouldn't win senate re-election, and me might as weel keep himself alive with a VP run.

I'm torn between Dean and Edwards (will probably vote for Dean in primaries) but would absolutely love to see a Dean/Edwards candidacy. Edwards would make a solid presidential or VP nominee, without a doubt.

who has changed candidates now that we are coming up on NH

I was rooting for Dean until last week, but the past few days have been a bit of an eye-opener. Now it's either Kerry or Edwards, and I'm not just saying this because they were the top 2 in Iowa. They're the two most electable candidates the primaries have to offer.

I like Edwards more than Kerry. Can you imagine how drawn out a Kerry State of the Union Address would be? The Pundits would fall asleep. And probably the First Lady.

Kerry is the worst speechmaker since....Bill Bradley, the human scarecrow.

I too have changed to Edwards. I found Dean's 'speech' a little embarrasing!

I'm for Bush so maybe I'm biased towards your most un-electable candidate... but I don't see what was so wrong with the speech?  He's just passionate.

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b/c he would have probably gotten beat int he senate run and edwards MAY be running for VP.

This Just in:

David Holland, aka Miamiu1027, WILL support John Kerry in the general election if Sen. Kerry is the nominee.  The only major candidate that Mr. Holland says that he is not sure that he would support is Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark, "D"-Arkansas.

He maintains his support for Sen. John Edwards in the Democratic Primary.

So will you support Bush over Clark?

He's not sure. Or at least, that's what he just said in his post!

No.  But I may not support clark either.