Title: Reagan's death Post by: © tweed on June 05, 2004, 06:13:02 PM Curious
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: agcatter on June 05, 2004, 06:14:26 PM no difference
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Storebought on June 05, 2004, 06:36:45 PM No difference. Most voters can't remember last month, let alone 20 years.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: agcatter on June 05, 2004, 06:45:47 PM .....or even last night.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: NHPolitico on June 05, 2004, 06:51:32 PM It might boost his support among GOP voters back solidly in the 90s.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: emergingDmajority1 on June 05, 2004, 08:01:12 PM 5 months from now this will be ancient history
I've read both Kerry and Bush's response to his death, Kerry statement is better. I'm surprised Bush's speech writers couldn't come up with something a bit "deeper" Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: KEmperor on June 05, 2004, 08:08:40 PM It will provide a slight Republican boost for the next month or so, but it will have virtually no impact by November.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on June 05, 2004, 09:04:30 PM help a little, for a while but then die off.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on June 05, 2004, 09:29:23 PM If Bush makes a great speech at the funeral, it could be a small boost. But Reagan's death could also hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: muon2 on June 05, 2004, 09:39:48 PM The best it can do is mask Iraq from the news while coverage is focussed on Reagan. Given that the handover is in 3 weeks, that may well be beneficial to Bush.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: classical liberal on June 05, 2004, 09:48:27 PM ...Reagan's death could also hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. Reagan's death will hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: agcatter on June 05, 2004, 10:13:31 PM It won't help or hurt. The damned election is FIVE MONTHS AWAY
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: zachman on June 05, 2004, 10:17:22 PM ...Reagan's death could also hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. Reagan's death will hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: WalterMitty on June 05, 2004, 10:44:57 PM ...Reagan's death could also hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. Reagan's death will hurt Bush because of the contrast created by true greatness. interesting that you are such a reagan fan, nut, seeing as how you are such an opponent of government spending. yes, reagan had a lot good points, but limiting federal spending wasnt one of them. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Smash255 on June 05, 2004, 11:43:57 PM I doubt it will have an impact. One thing that could wind up hurting Bush however is if Nancy Reagan starts talking more about the whole stem cell research issue, but even if that happens I doubt it will have any impact on the election even if its real close
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: MAS117 on June 05, 2004, 11:56:28 PM only boss would make a poll like this...let the man rest in peace...
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Lunar on June 05, 2004, 11:59:07 PM It's a political site. We did already have a thread like this on one of the other boards though.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on June 06, 2004, 12:17:25 AM only boss would make a poll like this...let the man rest in peace... America misses Ronald Reagan very much. Comparisons to our current leaders are unavoidable. He was a father figure, and much more. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 06, 2004, 02:50:20 AM No effect. Might boost turnout but that's about it really.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: millwx on June 06, 2004, 08:52:29 AM yes, reagan had a lot good points, but limiting federal spending wasnt one of them. Discretionary spending as a percentage of GDP (NOT using percentages is the mistake most people make): Under LBJ: 20.3% increase Under Nixon: 27.2% decrease Under Ford: 2.0% increase Under Carter: No change Under Reagan: 7.9% decrease Under GWH Bush: 7.5% decrease Under Clinton: 26.7% decrease Under GW Bush: 20.6% increase Many believe defense should be left out of this, likewise international discretionary outlays. So, here's the same list for domestic discretionary outlays: Under LBJ: 20.0% increase Under Nixon: 2.8% increase Under Ford: 21.6% increase Under Carter: 4.4% increase Under Reagan: 34.0% decrease Under GWH Bush: 9.7% increase Under Clinton: 8.8% decrease Under GW Bush: 16.1% increase These two lists are very bi-partisan. Two presidents, one from each party, were clearly the best at controlling spending. Ditto for the worst. The two best: Reagan and Clinton The two worst: LBJ and our illustrious current president GW Bush Yes, Reagan increased spending dramatically, but his policies expanded the GDP greatly as well... providing more money to spend. Relative to GDP, he and his administration did an excellent job controlling spending. So, why the huge deficits? Non-discretionary spending, not as much under the president's control (this is why most examine discretionary spending to judge a president's spending), increased dramatically. I'm not saying he was perfect; clearly, he could have done something about those deficits. But, he gets a bad rap on the spending issue. In the past four decades Reagan and Clinton have done the best job controlling spending. LBJ and GW Bush have been disastrous in terms of controlling spending. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 06, 2004, 10:25:14 AM LBJ raised spending a lot because of the Great Society thing (as well as the War on Poverty, Civil Rights and so on).
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: classical liberal on June 06, 2004, 12:19:13 PM That doesn't excuse him for raising spending without raising the GDP to counter the change.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: millwx on June 06, 2004, 01:43:12 PM That doesn't excuse him for raising spending without raising the GDP to counter the change. Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: opebo on June 06, 2004, 05:16:48 PM It will help Bush.
Title: Re:Reagan's death Post by: The Vorlon on June 06, 2004, 05:32:05 PM The best it can do is mask Iraq from the news while coverage is focussed on Reagan. Given that the handover is in 3 weeks, that may well be beneficial to Bush. The atom smasher from Batavia hits it on the nose. ;) |