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Title: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: WalterMitty on July 22, 2006, 09:28:37 PM
discuss.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on July 22, 2006, 09:58:48 PM
Oh without a doubt it would survive. I think Bryan being a radical is way overblown. Silver was a problem, sure, but I doubt seriously that Bryan would've destroyed the country... Hell, we survived plenty of bad Presidents such as Nixon. I hardly think that if Bryan was bad, the U.S. would collapse. That theory makes no sense to me.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 23, 2006, 01:57:18 AM
Free coinage of silver wouldn't have sparked all that much inflation, tho it would have made silver mine owners very happy.  There even would have been a slight offset as the government switched from priniting United States Notes backed by nothing to Silver Certificates backed by silver.  We also probably wiould have seen a revaluation of the official gold to silver ratio as had happened in 1834, as that would have been necessary to preserve bimetallism.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: MasterJedi on July 23, 2006, 10:04:39 AM
Yes although we'd be a lot different than we are now.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: WalterMitty on July 23, 2006, 06:30:19 PM
atlas question:  in the states where bryan ran under the populist party, shouldnt his running mate be listed as tom watson, rather than arthur sewall?


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: NewFederalist on July 23, 2006, 06:34:39 PM
atlas question:  in the states where bryan ran under the populist party, shouldnt his running mate be listed as tom watson, rather than arthur sewall?

yup


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on July 23, 2006, 06:43:04 PM
True. Watson should also be credited with the 27 Electoral votes that he won.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Erc on July 26, 2006, 09:10:21 AM
Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: WalterMitty on July 26, 2006, 09:47:23 AM
Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?

republicans, i think.

the gop gained seats in the midterms of 1894.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 26, 2006, 05:21:10 PM
Would have been interesting had Bryan won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency, but enough of the South voted for Watson to deny Sewall a majority...

Who had control of the Senate in '96 anyway?

republicans, i think.

the gop gained seats in the midterms of 1894.

Not quite.  The Republicans had a minority majority.

Republicans:44
Democrats:40
Populists: 4
Silver Republicans: 2

I can't see those two Silver Republicans from Nevada voting to put Garret Hobart in as Vice President.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Erc on July 26, 2006, 10:58:45 PM
I can't quite see them putting in Arthur Sewall, either, who was equally a goldbug.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on July 27, 2006, 02:46:23 PM
I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: WalterMitty on July 27, 2006, 04:29:14 PM
I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.

and bryan wasnt?


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on July 27, 2006, 05:39:41 PM
I mean personally. If you've ever read anything about Watson, you'd know that he was mean-spirited, rascist, narrow, shallow, egotistical, and callous.

Read up on the Leo Frank lynching to find out how fanatical Watson was... Comparitively, Bryan wasn't so bad.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on July 27, 2006, 05:54:41 PM
I don't think they would have put Tom Watson in either, who was quite the lunatic.
I doubt if Watson would have made the top 2 and the VP choice is limited to just the top 2.


Title: Re: 1896: would the country have survived a bryan presidency?
Post by: Erc on July 27, 2006, 11:17:32 PM
I mean personally. If you've ever read anything about Watson, you'd know that he was mean-spirited, rascist, narrow, shallow, egotistical, and callous.

Read up on the Leo Frank lynching to find out how fanatical Watson was... Comparitively, Bryan wasn't so bad.

Watson...is an interesting character.  Very interesting character.  Quite a different man in 1896 than in 1913, in certain respects.

C. Vann Woodward wrote a very good book on the guy back in the day that I've been meaning to read.