Title: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 03, 2006, 11:12:03 PM The media always portrays New Jersey as such that is far away from the truth. Does anyone have any questions or comments to make about NJ or New Jerseyans? Also, what are some things you have heard about NJ? Like our accents, culture, attractions, politics, and other things.
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ?????????? on September 03, 2006, 11:15:01 PM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 03, 2006, 11:59:16 PM What area are you from? Family all around North Jersey, Bergen and Passaic and Hudson. I live in Sussex County. How about you? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:00:33 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:08:36 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison? :P (Note: I am from Long Island originally.) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:16:01 AM Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: jerusalemcar5 on September 04, 2006, 12:16:37 AM Why are you all so snobby (at least those from north Jersey)?
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:17:13 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison? :P (Note: I am from Long Island originally.) Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying? They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 12:18:12 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison? :P (Note: I am from Long Island originally.) Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying? They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$. the Hamptons are the Hamptons. the End :). Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:19:05 AM Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state? Better as in more yuppie-friendly or better as in less quality in more space? :P Better as in lacking Trenton. :P Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:19:32 AM Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:20:20 AM Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state? 1. Connecticut 2. We have more. 3. Our things to do are less mobbed up. 4. Boeing and Microsoft 5. NO TRENTON!!! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:22:14 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison? :P (Note: I am from Long Island originally.) Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying? They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$. the Hamptons are the Hamptons. the End :). Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:24:19 AM Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state? 1. Connecticut 2. We have more. 3. Our things to do are less mobbed up. 4. Boeing and Microsoft 5. NO TRENTON!!! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:27:36 AM 1. Connecticut 2. We have more. 3. Our things to do are less mobbed up. 4. Boeing and Microsoft 5. NO TRENTON!!! 1. Connecticut is a whinier, more boring version of New Jersey. 2. In what way? 3. The mob is of such high quality. 4. Drugs. 5. Umm... Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:32:40 AM (All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun. I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)
We only have Seattle? We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma. Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has. Gay people are nice. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:34:19 AM () Up and coming Jersey City!
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: bullmoose88 on September 04, 2006, 12:38:58 AM You guys can't drive for sh**t
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:39:17 AM () Up and coming Jersey City! New Jersey can construct large, charcoal-coloured towers with no personality. THIS IS PROGRESS Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:43:51 AM Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;) And Bergen County is far from the best in the state. I reccomend Morris. Our entire state is a metropolitan area. Our crapholes give us character. Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden. We like to consider our politicians...a variety. (All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun. I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P) We only have Seattle? We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma. Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has. Also, our politicians are 100% heterosexual. Well, excluding Dino Rossi. But still. Look what I found! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Upthegrove http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Murray There are two more too but I cant get a link. It says it in the Ed Murray link. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:45:37 AM You guys can't drive for sh**t Look who's talking. Seeing a Pennsylvania driver on the road is never a good sign, unless you like driving 10mph under the speed limit in the fast lane. We're just a little over-aggressive, but that is only to deal with the obnoxious New York drivers. Actually, we know how to drive. Its just everyone else who cant. You have to be a good driver to drive in NJ. It's tough. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:48:39 AM State legislature doesn't count, Conan. Besides, what's wrong with being gay? Why so much homophobia?
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:52:32 AM State legislature doesn't count, Conan. Besides, what's wrong with being gay? Why so much homophobia? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:55:54 AM State legislature doesn't count, Conan. Besides, what's wrong with being gay? Why so much homophobia? I think it's clear from this conversation that you're the only one who has said something homophobic. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ATFFL on September 04, 2006, 12:58:08 AM I'm from Central Islip.
Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:00:02 AM State legislature doesn't count, Conan. Besides, what's wrong with being gay? Why so much homophobia? I think it's clear from this conversation that you're the only one who has said something homophobic. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:03:13 AM Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;) And Bergen County is far from the best in the state. I reccomend Morris. Our entire state is a metropolitan area. Our crapholes give us character. Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden. We like to consider our politicians...a variety. Camden isn't as scary as it seems. You just can't stop your car within the city. I really hate to toot my own horn, but the Somerset Hills (Bernardsville, Bedminster, Bernards Twp., Far Hills, and Peapack-Gladstone) are far superior to all else. We are arguably the most affluent grouping of towns in the country. And we're VERY conveniently located in relation to the city and Pennsylvania. Yea we beat you! Rank, Place, County, Per Capita Income Median House-hold Income, Median Family Income, Population, Number of Households 1 Mantoloking Ocean County, $114,017, $105,841, $125,000, 423, 207 2 Saddle River Bergen County, $85,934, $134,289, $152,169, 3,201, 1,118 3 Far Hills Somerset County, $81,535, $112,817, $149,095, 859, 368 4 Essex Fells Essex County, $77,434, $148,173, $175,000, 2,162, 737 5 Alpine Bergen County, $76,995, $130,740, $134,068, 2,183, 708 Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:04:19 AM I'm from Central Islip. Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: opebo on September 04, 2006, 01:05:18 AM An underrated and important state!
Which state has the highest percentage of Italian-Americans? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:05:54 AM No i didnt! I support gay rights. Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians. Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous? I believe I do. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:11:14 AM No i didnt! I support gay rights. Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians. Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous? I believe I do. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 01:12:11 AM Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;) And Bergen County is far from the best in the state. I reccomend Morris. Our entire state is a metropolitan area. Our crapholes give us character. Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden. We like to consider our politicians...a variety. Camden isn't as scary as it seems. You just can't stop your car within the city. I really hate to toot my own horn, but the Somerset Hills (Bernardsville, Bedminster, Bernards Twp., Far Hills, and Peapack-Gladstone) are far superior to all else. We are arguably the most affluent grouping of towns in the country. And we're VERY conveniently located in relation to the city and Pennsylvania. Spealing about some very nice areas, check out the noth shore of Nassau County Matinecock, brookville, Old Brookville, Centre Island, Muttontown, Laurel Hollow, Oyster Bay Cove, Plandome, Cove Neck and this little place called Sands Point Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:12:52 AM Saddle River, Upper Saddle River, Alpine, HoHoKus, Franklin Lakes, and Ridgewood could take them anyday! And we have the better city, NYC! Pssh...NEVER! And NYC is "the city". That's the term we use around here, I assumed you did, too. Upper Saddle River is VERY nice though. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:13:15 AM No i didnt! I support gay rights. Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians. Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous? I believe I do. You pointed out that Washington has gay politicians, like that is something to be ashamed of! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:15:31 AM No i didnt! I support gay rights. Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians. Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous? I believe I do. You pointed out that Washington has gay politicians, like that is something to be ashamed of! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:21:16 AM Who here hasnt been to NJ?
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:24:33 AM State Rank/National Rank/County/Per Capita Income/Median Household Income 1 7 Somerset County $37,970 $76,933 2 10 Morris County $36,964 $77,340 3 13 Hunterdon County $36,370 $79,888 4 21 Bergen County $33,638 $65,241 5 42 Monmouth County $31,149 $64,231 Somerset wins. I assumed because of those towns' proximity to Philadelphia that that was what you meant. But yes I do use "the city" when talking about NYC. Huh? () Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:25:32 AM Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays. No I didn't! Prove your lies! Prove your lies, sir! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:27:55 AM Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays. No I didn't! Prove your lies! Prove your lies, sir! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:29:51 AM Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays. No I didn't! Prove your lies! Prove your lies, sir! Prove that I edited it. OH WAIT YOU CAN'T Case closed. New Jersey loses. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:32:40 AM (All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun. I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P) We only have Seattle? We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma. Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has. Gay people plague your government. At least Washington has 100% heterosexual politicians. Except for Dino Rossi of course. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:33:40 AM (All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun. I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P) We only have Seattle? We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma. Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has. Gay people plague your government. At least Washington has 100% heterosexual politicians. Except for Dino Rossi of course. Looks like your New Jersey corruption is getting to your brain! I never made that post, as you can clearly see by looking back at the page. What a shame, New Jersey has destroyed another promising young life with its corruption!!! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:44:17 AM Well, considering the relative success of this thread in relation to others in this section of the forum, I think it's safe to say New Jersey's incredible allure is yet another distinguished attribute to add to the exceedingly long list of positives. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:51:53 AM Most definately. Oh and I am not Italian but I know people who very well could have "connections". (Who am I kidding, I am almost certain) Me neither, but I know quite a few people with connections, so we're good. :P Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: opebo on September 04, 2006, 01:54:03 AM An underrated and important state! Which state has the highest percentage of Italian-Americans? ;D We even have a "New Jersey Italian American Heritage Commission". I remember when I first traveled to the Northeast I was shocked at how dark-haired and swarthy everyone was. Growing up in Missouri I only saw the blonde hair and pink cheeks of my fellows.. lot of German blood back there. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:00:27 AM Forbes Most Expensive Zipcodes:
Overall Rank, Zip, Town, County, Median Home Value 15 07620 Alpine Bergen NJ 1,790,000 23 07976 New Vernon Morris NJ 1,596,587 35 08738 Mantoloking Ocean NJ 1,420,000 47 08247 Stone Harbor Cape May NJ 1,320,050 66 07078 Short Hills Essex NJ 1,200,000 78 07632 Englewood Cliffs Bergen NJ 1,112,500 92 08202 Avalon Cape May NJ 1,055,000 96 07723 Deal Monmouth NJ 1,037,500 105 07021 Essex Fells Essex NJ 999,900 107 07458 Saddle River Bergen NJ 997,000 111 07417 Franklin Lakes Bergen NJ 985,000 121 07931 Far Hills Somerset NJ 967,500 131 07711 Allenhurst Monmouth NJ 940,000 138 07717 Avon By The Sea Monmouth NJ 930,000 157 08750 Sea Girt Monmouth NJ 887,500 209 07945 Mendham Morris NJ 835,000 217 07046 Mountain Lakes Morris NJ 826,250 260 08243 Sea Isle City Cape May NJ 790,000 266 07677 Woodcliff Lake Bergen NJ 786,000 274 08558 Skillman Somerset NJ 780,750 282 07935 Green Village Morris NJ 777,465 288 07930 Chester Morris NJ 775,000 288 08008 Beach Haven Ocean NJ 775,000 309 07760 Rumson Monmouth NJ 760,000 316 07722 Colts Neck Monmouth NJ 757,500 326 07059 Warren Somerset NJ 752,500 330 08006 Barnegat Light Ocean NJ 750,000 342 07641 Haworth Bergen NJ 747,500 344 08212 Cape May Point Cape May NJ 745,000 350 07627 Demarest Bergen NJ 742,000 353 07423 Ho-Ho Kus Bergen NJ 740,000 358 07069 Watchung Somerset NJ 738,500 376 08403 Longport Atlantic NJ 725,000 390 07670 Tenafly Bergen NJ 715,000 405 07043 Montclair Essex NJ 700,000 405 07481 Wyckoff Bergen NJ 700,000 432 07901 Summit Union NJ 690,000 452 07624 Closter Bergen NJ 684,000 470 07450 Ridgewood Bergen NJ 675,000 39 Out of around 500. 8% of the richest towns in the country is pretty good. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 02:03:30 AM So, now poor people are bad?
And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"? And "Ho-Ho-Kus"? Eww. I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:04:24 AM Fortune 500 companies based in NJ:
State Rank, Company, National Rank, Revenue, City 1 Johnson & Johnson 32 50,514.0 New Brunswick 2 Medco Health Solutions 51 37,870.9 Franklin Lakes 3 Prudential Financial 64 31,708.0 Newark 4 Honeywell Intl. 71 28,862.0 Morristown 5 Merck 95 22,011.9 Whitehouse Station 6 Wyeth 119 18,755.8 Madison 7 Chubb 156 14,082.3 Warren 8 Public Service Enterprise Group 178 12,661.0 Newark 9 Toys "R" Us 208 11,194.0 Wayne 10 American Standard 230 10,264.4 Piscataway 11 Schering-Plough 250 9,508.0 Kenilworth 12 Lucent Technologies 255 9,441.0 Murray Hill 13 Automatic Data Proc. 271 8,499.1 Roseland 14 Campbell Soup 302 7,548.0 Camden 15 Quest Diagnostics 392 5,503.7 Lyndhurst 16 Becton Dickinson 397 5,464.4 Franklin Lakes 17 Hovnanian Enterprises 403 5,348.4 Red Bank 18 Bed Bath & Beyond 419 5,147.7 Union 19 Avaya 434 4,902.0 Basking Ridge 20 Engelhard 454 4,618.1 Iselin 21 Sealed Air 489 4,085.1 Saddle Brook 22 Pathmark Stores 497 3,980.5 Carteret 23 Burlington Coat Factory 580 3,211.1 Burlington 24 New Jersey Resources 592 3,148.3 Wall 25 Rockwood Holdings 598 3,121.2 Princeton 26 Cytec Industries 617 2,999.7 West Paterson 27 NRG Energy 646 2,723.0 Princeton 28 Exide Technologies 651 2,690.9 Lawrenceville 29 Linens 'n Things 656 2,649.3 Clifton 30 IDT 698 2,468.5 Newark 31 Commerce Bancorp 775 2,108.0 Cherry Hill 32 C.R. Bard 866 1,771.3 Murray Hill 33 Church & Dwight 881 1,736.5 Princeton 34 Selective Insurance Group 898 1,696.8 Branchville 35 Children's Place 908 1,668.7 Secaucus 36 Suburban Propane Partners 924 1,620.2 Whippany 37 Dun & Bradstreet 993 1,443.6 Short Hills Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: HardRCafé on September 04, 2006, 02:06:19 AM Case closed. New Jersey loses. More like everyone in this thread loses. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:07:22 AM So, now poor people are bad? And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"? And "Ho-Ho-Kus"? Eww. I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 04, 2006, 02:36:16 AM 15 07620 Alpine Bergen NJ 1,790,000 Loses to 8 zip codes in 6 counties in CA and 5 zip codes in 4 counties in NY. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Bono on September 04, 2006, 03:26:07 AM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? No, that's the town of Battle Mountain, Nevada. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 04:42:44 AM So, now poor people are bad? And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"? And "Ho-Ho-Kus"? Eww. I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks. The working class of America ARE positives. They are what makes this country great. I am ashamed of people like you, the classists, the status quo-lickers, the reactionary elite. Politics by the people!!! Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 11:23:57 AM Fortune 500 companies based in NJ: Soon to be topped by Verizon in Basking Ridge (Bernards Twp.) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 11:33:53 AM Oh, my mistake, it's the Verizon WIRELESS headquarters, not for the whole corporation. Oh well, it's still cool. It's this HUGE complex on the outskirts of town. There was controversy because previous owners Pfizer and AT&T allowed people to own homes on the edges of the gigantic property but Verizon ordered them off the property. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: minionofmidas on September 04, 2006, 12:15:03 PM Verizon? Isn't that the company Bruce Springsteen keeps singing about?
Step on up to Verizon... Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 12:39:05 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:42:46 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ATFFL on September 04, 2006, 12:45:06 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? NYC has the high paying jobs. NJ benefits from being close to it. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 12:46:43 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:16:31 PM Why are you all so snobby (at least those from north Jersey)? Seriously, because we're awesome. the Hamptons are the Hamptons. the End :). Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons. Ever heard of a little town called Mantoloking? Yeah, it makes the Hamptons look like trash. My grandparents live in Mantoloking. It's REALLY nice. The average house sells for over around 1.5 million. My grandma's house is worth 1.7 million. It's crazy. The beaches are IMMACULATE and private. And, by the way, we ARE awesome. :P Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:17:16 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :( Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:19:29 PM Oh, my mistake, it's the Verizon WIRELESS headquarters, not for the whole corporation. Oh well, it's still cool. It's this HUGE complex on the outskirts of town. There was controversy because previous owners Pfizer and AT&T allowed people to own homes on the edges of the gigantic property but Verizon ordered them off the property. I know, really! Maybe our town will actually get the Verizon cable service thing... I don't remember what it's called but Bernardsville has it for some reason. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:20:41 PM Most definately. Oh and I am not Italian but I know people who very well could have "connections". (Who am I kidding, I am almost certain) Me neither, but I know quite a few people with connections, so we're good. :P I'm Italian, but I'm not affiliated with the mafia... That I know of... Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Michael Z on September 04, 2006, 01:21:54 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :( Of course you are, you're Republican! :D Just kidding, please don't hurt me... Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:22:28 PM So, now poor people are bad? And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"? And "Ho-Ho-Kus"? Eww. I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks. Ho-ho-kus is where my dad grew up. It's really nice there. Right next to Ridgewood. I like Basking Ridge and Mantoloking better. :) Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:23:50 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :( Of course you are, you're Republican! :D Just kidding, please don't hurt me... Aww... I won't hurt you... *pats head* *holds knife behind back* Heheh... *stabs Michael* Just kidding! :P Rin-chan ps- Seriously, I don't care that you said that. :) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:28:37 PM I'm from Central Islip. Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million No other Hamptons towns even made it close. You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways. And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town. Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect. I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better. The Hamptons suck. My uncle used to live there. There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking. Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy? No school in town. That makes for less money wasted on taxes. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:29:03 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:32:22 PM What area are you from? Family in Passaic and Camden, I'm in Somerset. I have family in Ocean and Somerset. And, like Fezzy, I live in Somerset. ;D Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:33:01 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? NYC has the high paying jobs. NJ benefits from being close to it. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:34:21 PM So, now poor people are bad? And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"? And "Ho-Ho-Kus"? Eww. I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks. Ho-ho-kus is where my dad grew up. It's really nice there. Right next to Ridgewood. I like Basking Ridge and Mantoloking better. :) Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:38:38 PM What area are you from? Family in Passaic and Camden, I'm in Somerset. I have family in Ocean and Somerset. And, like Fezzy, I live in Somerset. ;D Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Virginian87 on September 04, 2006, 04:45:34 PM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Actually, I believe it's "Liberty and Prosperity". Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Virginian87 on September 04, 2006, 04:50:39 PM We have a higher rich person density. That's a good thing? Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs. ...because the last thing we need is more elitist latte liberals!!!!!!!!!!!! :P Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 04:54:51 PM Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"? Actually, I believe it's "Liberty and Prosperity". Actually, it's "Liberty, Prosperity and Armpits." Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 04, 2006, 05:20:50 PM (All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun. I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P) We only have Seattle? We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma. Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has. Gay people are nice. I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 04, 2006, 05:34:39 PM All I know is this, NJ is a nice place, I like being able to go to NYC and the ESPN Zone for lunch and home for dinner. I like the fact that I live in a semi-quiet, until the Democrats took over a very suburban town. I like that I can go down the shore, I have family in Point Pleasant, and be there in an hour. I can also go out to the rural areas and farms in Sussex County and back soon.
Bottom line is this: NJ is nice because I can go to the biggest city in the world (which as mentioned before in NJ it is just "the city", and everyone knows what you mean), down the shore, or out to farmland and all take only an hour. If we start electing non-scumbugs, either Dem and Republican (Forrester, Menendez and Corzine 1,2,3), NJ will be a much nicer place to live. Just let's hope Menendez's dream of making all of NJ Hudson County doesn't come true. Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County. I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally. Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 06:03:23 PM I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them. Why, so you know which park to go to? McGreevy might now, you may want to email him. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 06:15:23 PM Is Somerset considered North Jersey? I'd say it's Central. North Jersey ROCKS! Well relative to you, we are Central Jersey, but I think we're considered North because we're by NYC. I'd say Central is Middlesex, Mercer, Monmouth, and maybe even Burlington. All the ones in between NYC and Philly metro areas. Whatever, we're in the very northeastern corner of Somerset, so at least we're North Jersey. I say we can all agree on North-Central Jersey. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 06:18:48 PM I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them. Why, so you know which park to go to? McGreevy might now, you may want to email him. Ahahaha!! He was such a freak... I'm not trying to say anything against gay people, but I thought he was a freak BEFORE he came out of the closet. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 10:20:27 PM I'm from Central Islip. Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million No other Hamptons towns even made it close. You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways. And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town. Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect. I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better. The Hamptons suck. My uncle used to live there. There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking. Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy? No school in town. That makes for less money wasted on taxes. Rin-chan The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water. Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast". Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc. I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well. Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to. And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 05, 2006, 12:30:15 AM I'm from Central Islip. Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million No other Hamptons towns even made it close. You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways. And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town. Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect. I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better. The Hamptons suck. My uncle used to live there. There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking. Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy? No school in town. That makes for less money wasted on taxes. Rin-chan The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water. Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast". Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc. I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well. Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to. And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 05, 2006, 12:32:14 AM Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County. I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally. Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control. When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area? And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into. Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day. AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 05, 2006, 08:13:47 AM Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County. I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally. Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control. North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death. South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing. People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc. And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started. Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's. He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs. When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area? And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into. Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day. AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 06, 2006, 11:01:55 AM I'm from Central Islip. Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card. Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves. TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million No other Hamptons towns even made it close. You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways. And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town. Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect. I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better. The Hamptons suck. My uncle used to live there. There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking. Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy? No school in town. That makes for less money wasted on taxes. Rin-chan The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water. Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast". Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc. I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well. Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to. And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures) Have you stayed in Mantoloking? If you have, then you would understand. Oh, and I meant they sucked compared to places like Mantoloking. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Rin-chan on September 06, 2006, 11:04:13 AM Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County. I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally. Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control. North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death. South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing. People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc. And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started. Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's. He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs. When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area? And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into. Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day. AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway. I agree. Personally, it's not as nice as Somerset county (only because that's my home :) ), but I have spent quite a bit of time in parts of Bergen county and it's very nice. Lots of traffic in places llike Ridgewood, but very nice. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on September 06, 2006, 02:58:05 PM Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County. I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally. Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control. North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death. South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing. People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc. And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started. Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's. He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs. When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area? And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into. Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day. AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway. I agree. Personally, it's not as nice as Somerset county (only because that's my home :) ), but I have spent quite a bit of time in parts of Bergen county and it's very nice. Lots of traffic in places llike Ridgewood, but very nice. Rin-chan Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on May 19, 2007, 09:17:03 PM New Jersey is a nice state, end of story. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Platypus on May 20, 2007, 08:11:41 AM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 08:25:26 AM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. Who could NJ get any worse government wise? Merge with NY. Although I guess they have a much better governor and better assembly Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: ?????????? on May 20, 2007, 08:26:57 AM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. *ducks the assured enfilade* Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 11:04:17 AM Do we have any real southern Jersey posters (meaning really south direction wise)? I know Fezzy and Rin-chan are middle state, me and Verily are in Bergen County (NE) and Conan is out in Sussex (NW)
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 20, 2007, 11:05:02 AM We should get rid of PA and split it between NJ and Ohio. Maybe then people would stop talking about PA-13
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Verily on May 20, 2007, 06:44:55 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on May 20, 2007, 08:27:13 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: CultureKing on May 20, 2007, 08:29:48 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true? Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas) Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 08:41:38 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Plus move Bergen County to PA or its own state and then I will accept Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 09:09:32 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Plus move Bergen County to PA or its own state and then I will accept Why would you want Bergen in PA? B/c I don't want to live in NY, nice for visit not nice to live. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on May 20, 2007, 09:34:55 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true? Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas) Some mountains in North Carolina (Appalachian) are pretty huge. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Verily on May 20, 2007, 09:52:52 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything. Does everything have to be for partisan advantage? Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true? Not really, despite what Conan seems to think, and certainly not suburbia in the type you get on the West Coast consisting entirely of new developments from within the past two decades. Parts of New Jersey are extremely urban: Hudson County belongs in New York City, and inner (as in, closer to NYC) Essex and Union Counties are also urban. The cities of Clifton, Passaic and Paterson make another urban area in the southern lobe of Passaic County. Where I live, Bergen County, and in Middlesex, Monmouth and outer Passaic, Union and Essex Counties, the areas are mostly suburban, but old-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1930s and 40s. Somerset, Sussex and Monmouth Counties are mostly new-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1970s and 80s. Hunterdon and Warren Counties are mostly rural, though southern Hunterdon County starts to be suburban. Their primary industry is horse ranching. Along the coast, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties are solid resort towns the entire length with farms inland (except in Monmouth, which is being absorbed into the NYC metro). Atlantic City is an isolated incident in Atlantic County, and it's really not very big. Inner Mercer County, aka Trenton, is urban, though it's not a really big city. Outer Mercer County along with Burlington County along the Delaware River is suburban. Inner Camden County is urban around Camden and suburban to rural in the interior. Gloucester County is suburban. Salem and Cumberland Counties are entirely rural and small, poor towns. Here's a map that approximates what is where in NJ. Red is urban, yellow is suburban, blue is rural, and green is touristy coast. () Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 20, 2007, 10:00:35 PM What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz.
Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Verily on May 21, 2007, 02:27:35 PM What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz. Around half of the property is second homes. The area industry is essentially dormant and almost rural during the winter and entirely focused on the beaches during the summer. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 21, 2007, 02:37:16 PM What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz. Around half of the property is second homes. The area industry is essentially dormant and almost rural during the winter and entirely focused on the beaches during the summer. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on May 21, 2007, 09:11:39 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything. Does everything have to be for partisan advantage? Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true? Not really, despite what Conan seems to think, and certainly not suburbia in the type you get on the West Coast consisting entirely of new developments from within the past two decades. Parts of New Jersey are extremely urban: Hudson County belongs in New York City, and inner (as in, closer to NYC) Essex and Union Counties are also urban. The cities of Clifton, Passaic and Paterson make another urban area in the southern lobe of Passaic County. Where I live, Bergen County, and in Middlesex, Monmouth and outer Passaic, Union and Essex Counties, the areas are mostly suburban, but old-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1930s and 40s. Somerset, Sussex and Monmouth Counties are mostly new-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1970s and 80s. Hunterdon and Warren Counties are mostly rural, though southern Hunterdon County starts to be suburban. Their primary industry is horse ranching. Along the coast, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties are solid resort towns the entire length with farms inland (except in Monmouth, which is being absorbed into the NYC metro). Atlantic City is an isolated incident in Atlantic County, and it's really not very big. Inner Mercer County, aka Trenton, is urban, though it's not a really big city. Outer Mercer County along with Burlington County along the Delaware River is suburban. Inner Camden County is urban around Camden and suburban to rural in the interior. Gloucester County is suburban. Salem and Cumberland Counties are entirely rural and small, poor towns. Here's a map that approximates what is where in NJ. Red is urban, yellow is suburban, blue is rural, and green is touristy coast. () Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Verily on May 21, 2007, 09:35:27 PM What part of the US Census classification that all of our counties are at least suburban don't you get. It's not what I seem to think, it's the information out there. I talked about the multiple farms too and didn't need to mention places like Newark, Hudson, and Camden are urban. NJ is just an expanse of suburbia. It doesnt matter when homes were built..suburbia is suburbia. The definition of suburbia used by the Census bureau is absurdly broad. Have someone from outside New Jersey visit Cumberland County and then have them say with a straight face that Cumberland County is suburban. You won't be able to do it, and the same is true for Warren County, and for Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties away from the coast. Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: CultureKing on May 21, 2007, 11:00:27 PM What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA. I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania. () Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true? Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas) Some mountains in North Carolina (Appalachian) are pretty huge. well, Mount Mitchell is the tallest at 6,684 ft, not too bad. I cant really call it "huge" or a true mountain simply because you can nearly drive the entire way up the hill, also I like to think of it as a mountain only if it is a truly dramatic rise (like a 4,000 ft rise next to the sea could be a mountain but a 1000 ft rise on a 4,000 ft plateu doesnt quite cut it). I love one of the captions to one of the pictures: "Looking west from the parking lot atop the summit." Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY! Post by: Conan on May 22, 2007, 01:01:13 AM What part of the US Census classification that all of our counties are at least suburban don't you get. It's not what I seem to think, it's the information out there. I talked about the multiple farms too and didn't need to mention places like Newark, Hudson, and Camden are urban. NJ is just an expanse of suburbia. It doesnt matter when homes were built..suburbia is suburbia. The definition of suburbia used by the Census bureau is absurdly broad. Have someone from outside New Jersey visit Cumberland County and then have them say with a straight face that Cumberland County is suburban. You won't be able to do it, and the same is true for Warren County, and for Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties away from the coast. |