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General Politics => U.S. General Discussion => Topic started by: Conan on September 03, 2006, 11:12:03 PM



Title: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 03, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
The media always portrays New Jersey as such that is far away from the truth. Does anyone have any questions or comments to make about NJ or New Jerseyans? Also, what are some things you have heard about NJ? Like our accents, culture, attractions, politics, and other things.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ?????????? on September 03, 2006, 11:15:01 PM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 03, 2006, 11:59:16 PM

Family all around North Jersey, Bergen and Passaic and Hudson. I live in Sussex County. How about you?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:00:33 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
I will not be low enough to make fun of West Virginia. New Jerseyans have great pride and class. Or are you actually from Florida?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:08:36 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
I will not be low enough to make fun of West Virginia. New Jerseyans have great pride and class.
Is it true you swim to school through rivers of toxic waste?

Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison?

:P

(Note: I am from Long Island originally.)
NJ has a big chemical industry. However toxic waste sites have been cleaned up or are being cleaned up (these arent only common to NJ). I have never come into contact with anything toxic or condemned. I love Long Island too. We go out there all the time.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:16:01 AM
Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on September 04, 2006, 12:16:37 AM
Why are you all so snobby (at least those from north Jersey)?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:17:13 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
I will not be low enough to make fun of West Virginia. New Jerseyans have great pride and class.
Is it true you swim to school through rivers of toxic waste?

Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison?

:P

(Note: I am from Long Island originally.)
NJ has a big chemical industry. However toxic waste sites have been cleaned up or are being cleaned up (these arent only common to NJ). I have never come into contact with anything toxic or condemned. I love Long Island too. We go out there all the time.

Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying?  They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$.
I think NJ won, no one I know goes out to Long Island except for me to go to the beach. It's way less crowded. Where in Long Island you from?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 12:18:12 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
I will not be low enough to make fun of West Virginia. New Jerseyans have great pride and class.
Is it true you swim to school through rivers of toxic waste?

Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison?

:P

(Note: I am from Long Island originally.)
NJ has a big chemical industry. However toxic waste sites have been cleaned up or are being cleaned up (these arent only common to NJ). I have never come into contact with anything toxic or condemned. I love Long Island too. We go out there all the time.

Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying?  They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$.

the Hamptons are the Hamptons.  the End :).  Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:19:05 AM
Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?

Better as in more yuppie-friendly or better as in less quality in more space? :P

Better as in lacking Trenton. :P


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:19:32 AM
Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?
Hahaha. NJ is very valuable in being in the US. We have the highest incomes, all kind of geography, a diverse culture, tons of things to do, and a large economy.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:20:20 AM
Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?
Hahaha. NJ is very valuable in being in the US. We have the highest incomes, all kind of geography, a diverse culture, tons of things to do, and a large economy.

1. Connecticut
2. We have more.
3. Our things to do are less mobbed up.
4. Boeing and Microsoft
5. NO TRENTON!!!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:22:14 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?
I will not be low enough to make fun of West Virginia. New Jerseyans have great pride and class.
Is it true you swim to school through rivers of toxic waste?

Do you guys still plant medical waste on Long Island beaches to make your seem more attractive by comparison?

:P

(Note: I am from Long Island originally.)
NJ has a big chemical industry. However toxic waste sites have been cleaned up or are being cleaned up (these arent only common to NJ). I have never come into contact with anything toxic or condemned. I love Long Island too. We go out there all the time.

Don't tell me the LI-NJ rivalry is dying?  They used to compete heavily for summer tourism $$$.

the Hamptons are the Hamptons.  the End :).  Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons.
Didnt want to say it but I've been to the beach in the Hamptons way more then in NJ! It's awesome if you have a permit to park the car near an inlet which only town residents have. And theres not many people out there.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:24:19 AM
Why do you even bother existing, when Washington is clearly a better state?
Hahaha. NJ is very valuable in being in the US. We have the highest incomes, all kind of geography, a diverse culture, tons of things to do, and a large economy.

1. Connecticut
2. We have more.
3. Our things to do are less mobbed up.
4. Boeing and Microsoft
5. NO TRENTON!!!
No its NJ with the highest! It just came out the other day. NJ is the perfect place with the best quality of life.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:27:36 AM
1. Connecticut
2. We have more.
3. Our things to do are less mobbed up.
4. Boeing and Microsoft
5. NO TRENTON!!!

1. Connecticut is a whinier, more boring version of New Jersey.
2. In what way?
3. The mob is of such high quality.
4. Drugs.
5. Umm...
Yea! Exactly. Trentons a pretty sucky capitol I must admit (unless youre referring to NJ politicians by saying Trenton), but you guys only have Seattle. Our mob is of high quality too. HAHA


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:32:40 AM
(All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun.  I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)

We only have Seattle?  We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma.  Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has.

Gay people are nice.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:34:19 AM
() Up and coming Jersey City!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: bullmoose88 on September 04, 2006, 12:38:58 AM
You guys can't drive for sh**t


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:39:17 AM

New Jersey can construct large, charcoal-coloured towers with no personality.

THIS IS PROGRESS


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:43:51 AM
Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;)  And Bergen County is far from the best in the state.  I reccomend Morris.  Our entire state is a metropolitan area.  Our crapholes give us character.  Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden.  We like to consider our politicians...a variety.
I stay away from Camden, haha. That's too bad. Bergen County is mixed. Some of the most affluent towns are there including Saddle River and Alpine. Saddle River is where Nixon retired to. I want to move to Bergen, its way better then Sussex and much more convenient.

(All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun.  I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)

We only have Seattle?  We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma.  Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has.

Also, our politicians are 100% heterosexual.  Well, excluding Dino Rossi.  But still.

Look what I found! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Upthegrove
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Murray There are two more too but I cant get a link. It says it in the Ed Murray link.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:45:37 AM

Look who's talking.  Seeing a Pennsylvania driver on the road is never a good sign, unless you like driving 10mph under the speed limit in the fast lane.  We're just a little over-aggressive, but that is only to deal with the obnoxious New York drivers.

Actually, we know how to drive. Its just everyone else who cant. You have to be a good driver to drive in NJ. It's tough.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:48:39 AM
State legislature doesn't count, Conan.  Besides, what's wrong with being gay?  Why so much homophobia?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:52:32 AM
State legislature doesn't count, Conan.  Besides, what's wrong with being gay?  Why so much homophobia?
Thats what I was gonna ask you. But I didnt want to get into any debate if you disliked gays.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 12:55:54 AM
State legislature doesn't count, Conan.  Besides, what's wrong with being gay?  Why so much homophobia?
Thats what I was gonna ask you. But I didnt want to get into any debate if you disliked gays.

I think it's clear from this conversation that you're the only one who has said something homophobic.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ATFFL on September 04, 2006, 12:58:08 AM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:00:02 AM
State legislature doesn't count, Conan.  Besides, what's wrong with being gay?  Why so much homophobia?
Thats what I was gonna ask you. But I didnt want to get into any debate if you disliked gays.

I think it's clear from this conversation that you're the only one who has said something homophobic.
No i didnt! I support gay rights.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:03:13 AM
Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;)  And Bergen County is far from the best in the state.  I reccomend Morris.  Our entire state is a metropolitan area.  Our crapholes give us character.  Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden.  We like to consider our politicians...a variety.
I stay away from Camden, haha. That's too bad. Bergen County is mixed. Some of the most affluent towns are there including Saddle River and Alpine. Saddle River is where Nixon retired to. I want to move to Bergen, its way better then Sussex and much more convenient.

Camden isn't as scary as it seems.  You just can't stop your car within the city.  I really hate to toot my own horn, but the Somerset Hills (Bernardsville, Bedminster, Bernards Twp., Far Hills, and Peapack-Gladstone) are far superior to all else.  We are arguably the most affluent grouping of towns in the country.  And we're VERY conveniently located in relation to the city and Pennsylvania.
Saddle River, Upper Saddle River, Alpine, HoHoKus, Franklin Lakes, and Ridgewood could take them anyday! And we have the better city, NYC!

Yea we beat you!

Rank, Place, County, Per Capita Income Median House-hold Income, Median Family Income, Population, Number of Households
1 Mantoloking Ocean County, $114,017, $105,841, $125,000, 423, 207
2 Saddle River Bergen County, $85,934, $134,289, $152,169, 3,201, 1,118
3 Far Hills Somerset County, $81,535, $112,817, $149,095, 859, 368
4 Essex Fells Essex County, $77,434, $148,173, $175,000, 2,162, 737
5 Alpine Bergen County, $76,995, $130,740, $134,068, 2,183, 708


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:04:19 AM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.
Fire Islands awesome. You ever see the TWA crash memorial?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: opebo on September 04, 2006, 01:05:18 AM
An underrated and important state! 

Which state has the highest percentage of Italian-Americans?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:05:54 AM

Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians.  Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous?  I believe I do.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:11:14 AM

Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians.  Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous?  I believe I do.
Whered I slur them?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 01:12:11 AM
Of course it's all in jest, no one could seriously doubt the perfection that is New Jersey. ;)  And Bergen County is far from the best in the state.  I reccomend Morris.  Our entire state is a metropolitan area.  Our crapholes give us character.  Nowhere on earth will you find something as indescribable as Camden.  We like to consider our politicians...a variety.
I stay away from Camden, haha. That's too bad. Bergen County is mixed. Some of the most affluent towns are there including Saddle River and Alpine. Saddle River is where Nixon retired to. I want to move to Bergen, its way better then Sussex and much more convenient.

Camden isn't as scary as it seems.  You just can't stop your car within the city.  I really hate to toot my own horn, but the Somerset Hills (Bernardsville, Bedminster, Bernards Twp., Far Hills, and Peapack-Gladstone) are far superior to all else.  We are arguably the most affluent grouping of towns in the country.  And we're VERY conveniently located in relation to the city and Pennsylvania.
Saddle River, Upper Saddle River, Alpine, HoHoKus, Franklin Lakes, and Ridgewood could take them anyday! And we have the better city, NYC!

Spealing about some very nice areas, check out the noth shore of Nassau County

Matinecock, brookville, Old Brookville, Centre Island, Muttontown, Laurel Hollow, Oyster Bay Cove, Plandome, Cove Neck and this little place called Sands Point


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:12:52 AM
Saddle River, Upper Saddle River, Alpine, HoHoKus, Franklin Lakes, and Ridgewood could take them anyday! And we have the better city, NYC!

Pssh...NEVER!  And NYC is "the city".  That's the term we use around here, I assumed you did, too.  Upper Saddle River is VERY nice though.
I assumed because of those towns' proximity to Philadelphia that that was what you meant. But yes I do use "the city" when talking about NYC.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:13:15 AM

Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians.  Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous?  I believe I do.
Whered I slur them?

You pointed out that Washington has gay politicians, like that is something to be ashamed of!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:15:31 AM

Yet you slurred gay Washington politicians.  Do I sense a double standard, something for which New Jersey is famous?  I believe I do.
Whered I slur them?

You pointed out that Washington has gay politicians, like that is something to be ashamed of!
Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:21:16 AM
Who here hasnt been to NJ?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:24:33 AM
State Rank/National Rank/County/Per Capita Income/Median Household Income
1 7 Somerset County $37,970 $76,933
2 10 Morris County $36,964 $77,340
3 13 Hunterdon County $36,370 $79,888
4 21 Bergen County $33,638 $65,241
5 42 Monmouth County $31,149 $64,231

Somerset wins.

I assumed because of those towns' proximity to Philadelphia that that was what you meant. But yes I do use "the city" when talking about NYC.

Huh?
()
Excuse my geographical knowledge. HAHA I thought those were near Princeton and closer to Philly if that is still even closer? HA


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:25:32 AM
Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays.

No I didn't!  Prove your lies!  Prove your lies, sir!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:27:55 AM
Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays.

No I didn't!  Prove your lies!  Prove your lies, sir!
How dare you go back and edit it!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:29:51 AM
Psh. You started about McGreevey and then claimed Washington Pols were 100% hetero as if that meant you were superior, so you sir, slurred the gays.

No I didn't!  Prove your lies!  Prove your lies, sir!
How dare you go back and edit it!

Prove that I edited it.

OH WAIT YOU CAN'T

Case closed.  New Jersey loses.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:32:40 AM
(All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun.  I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)

We only have Seattle?  We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma.  Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has.

Gay people plague your government. At least Washington has 100% heterosexual politicians. Except for Dino Rossi of course.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 01:33:40 AM
(All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun.  I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)

We only have Seattle?  We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma.  Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has.

Gay people plague your government. At least Washington has 100% heterosexual politicians. Except for Dino Rossi of course.

Looks like your New Jersey corruption is getting to your brain!  I never made that post, as you can clearly see by looking back at the page.  What a shame, New Jersey has destroyed another promising young life with its corruption!!!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:44:17 AM
Well, considering the relative success of this thread in relation to others in this section of the forum, I think it's safe to say New Jersey's incredible allure is yet another distinguished attribute to add to the exceedingly long list of positives.
Most definately. Oh and I am not Italian but I know people who very well could have "connections". (Who am I kidding, I am almost certain)


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:51:53 AM
Most definately. Oh and I am not Italian but I know people who very well could have "connections". (Who am I kidding, I am almost certain)

Me neither, but I know quite a few people with connections, so we're good. :P
Pretty weird, you would have thought at least one of us was.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: opebo on September 04, 2006, 01:54:03 AM
An underrated and important state! 

Which state has the highest percentage of Italian-Americans?

;D
We even have a "New Jersey Italian American Heritage Commission".

I remember when I first traveled to the Northeast I was shocked at how dark-haired and swarthy everyone was.  Growing up in Missouri I only saw the blonde hair and pink cheeks of my fellows.. lot of German blood back there.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:00:27 AM
Forbes Most Expensive Zipcodes:

Overall Rank, Zip, Town, County, Median Home Value
15  07620  Alpine  Bergen  NJ  1,790,000 
23  07976  New Vernon  Morris  NJ  1,596,587
35  08738  Mantoloking  Ocean  NJ  1,420,000 
47  08247  Stone Harbor  Cape May  NJ  1,320,050 
66  07078  Short Hills  Essex  NJ  1,200,000 
78  07632  Englewood Cliffs  Bergen  NJ  1,112,500 
92  08202  Avalon  Cape May  NJ  1,055,000 
96  07723  Deal  Monmouth  NJ  1,037,500 
105  07021  Essex Fells  Essex  NJ  999,900 
107  07458  Saddle River  Bergen  NJ  997,000 
111  07417  Franklin Lakes  Bergen  NJ  985,000 
121  07931  Far Hills  Somerset  NJ  967,500 
131  07711  Allenhurst  Monmouth  NJ  940,000 
138  07717  Avon By The Sea  Monmouth  NJ  930,000 
157  08750  Sea Girt  Monmouth  NJ  887,500 
209  07945  Mendham  Morris  NJ  835,000 
217  07046  Mountain Lakes  Morris  NJ  826,250 
260  08243  Sea Isle City  Cape May  NJ  790,000 
266  07677  Woodcliff Lake  Bergen  NJ  786,000 
274  08558  Skillman  Somerset  NJ  780,750 
282  07935  Green Village  Morris  NJ  777,465 
288  07930  Chester  Morris  NJ  775,000 
288  08008  Beach Haven  Ocean  NJ  775,000 
309  07760  Rumson  Monmouth  NJ  760,000 
316  07722  Colts Neck  Monmouth  NJ  757,500 
326  07059  Warren  Somerset  NJ  752,500 
330  08006  Barnegat Light  Ocean  NJ  750,000
342  07641  Haworth  Bergen  NJ  747,500 
344  08212  Cape May Point  Cape May  NJ  745,000 
350  07627  Demarest  Bergen  NJ  742,000 
353  07423  Ho-Ho Kus  Bergen  NJ  740,000 
358  07069  Watchung  Somerset  NJ  738,500 
376  08403  Longport  Atlantic  NJ  725,000 
390  07670  Tenafly  Bergen  NJ  715,000 
405  07043  Montclair  Essex  NJ  700,000 
405  07481  Wyckoff  Bergen  NJ  700,000 
432  07901  Summit  Union  NJ  690,000 
452  07624  Closter  Bergen  NJ  684,000 
470  07450  Ridgewood  Bergen  NJ  675,000 

39 Out of around 500. 8% of the richest towns in the country is pretty good.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 02:03:30 AM
So, now poor people are bad?

And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"?  And "Ho-Ho-Kus"?  Eww.

I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:04:24 AM
Fortune 500 companies based in NJ:

State Rank, Company, National Rank, Revenue, City

1  Johnson & Johnson  32  50,514.0  New Brunswick  
2  Medco Health Solutions  51  37,870.9  Franklin Lakes  
3  Prudential Financial  64  31,708.0  Newark  
4  Honeywell Intl.  71  28,862.0  Morristown  
5  Merck  95  22,011.9  Whitehouse Station  
6  Wyeth  119  18,755.8  Madison  
7  Chubb  156  14,082.3  Warren  
8  Public Service Enterprise Group  178  12,661.0  Newark  
9  Toys "R" Us  208  11,194.0  Wayne  
10  American Standard  230  10,264.4  Piscataway  
11  Schering-Plough  250  9,508.0  Kenilworth  
12  Lucent Technologies  255  9,441.0  Murray Hill  
13  Automatic Data Proc.  271  8,499.1  Roseland  
14  Campbell Soup  302  7,548.0  Camden  
15  Quest Diagnostics  392  5,503.7  Lyndhurst  
16  Becton Dickinson  397  5,464.4  Franklin Lakes  
17  Hovnanian Enterprises  403  5,348.4  Red Bank  
18  Bed Bath & Beyond  419  5,147.7  Union  
19  Avaya  434  4,902.0  Basking Ridge  
20  Engelhard  454  4,618.1  Iselin  
21  Sealed Air  489  4,085.1  Saddle Brook  
22  Pathmark Stores  497  3,980.5  Carteret  
23  Burlington Coat Factory  580  3,211.1  Burlington  
24  New Jersey Resources  592  3,148.3  Wall  
25  Rockwood Holdings  598  3,121.2  Princeton  
26  Cytec Industries  617  2,999.7  West Paterson  
27  NRG Energy  646  2,723.0  Princeton  
28  Exide Technologies  651  2,690.9  Lawrenceville  
29  Linens 'n Things  656  2,649.3  Clifton  
30  IDT  698  2,468.5  Newark  
31  Commerce Bancorp  775  2,108.0  Cherry Hill  
32  C.R. Bard  866  1,771.3  Murray Hill  
33  Church & Dwight  881  1,736.5  Princeton  
34  Selective Insurance Group  898  1,696.8  Branchville  
35  Children's Place  908  1,668.7  Secaucus  
36  Suburban Propane Partners  924  1,620.2  Whippany  
37  Dun & Bradstreet  993  1,443.6  Short Hills 


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: HardRCafé on September 04, 2006, 02:06:19 AM

More like everyone in this thread loses.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 02:07:22 AM
So, now poor people are bad?

And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"?  And "Ho-Ho-Kus"?  Eww.

I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks.
We have under-privelaged people too. I am trying to brag about the positives though.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 04, 2006, 02:36:16 AM
15  07620  Alpine  Bergen  NJ  1,790,000 

Loses to 8 zip codes in 6 counties in CA and 5 zip codes in 4 counties in NY.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Bono on September 04, 2006, 03:26:07 AM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?

No, that's the town of Battle Mountain, Nevada.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 04:42:44 AM
So, now poor people are bad?

And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"?  And "Ho-Ho-Kus"?  Eww.

I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks.
We have under-privelaged people too. I am trying to brag about the positives though.

The working class of America ARE positives.  They are what makes this country great.  I am ashamed of people like you, the classists, the status quo-lickers, the reactionary elite.  Politics by the people!!!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 11:23:57 AM

Soon to be topped by Verizon in Basking Ridge (Bernards Twp.)
Headquarters?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 11:33:53 AM
Oh, my mistake, it's the Verizon WIRELESS headquarters, not for the whole corporation.  Oh well, it's still cool.  It's this HUGE complex on the outskirts of town.  There was controversy because previous owners Pfizer and AT&T allowed people to own homes on the edges of the gigantic property but Verizon ordered them off the property.
Yea, family used to work there. Finally they are actually moving in.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: minionofmidas on September 04, 2006, 12:15:03 PM
Verizon? Isn't that the company Bruce Springsteen keeps singing about?

Step on up to Verizon...


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 12:39:05 PM

That's a good thing?


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 12:42:46 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ATFFL on September 04, 2006, 12:45:06 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

NYC has the high paying jobs.  NJ benefits from being close to it.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 12:46:43 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:16:31 PM
Why are you all so snobby (at least those from north Jersey)?

Seriously, because we're awesome.

the Hamptons are the Hamptons.  the End :).  Seriously though its not what it was and both Long Islanders and new jersians enjoy each others beaches, though nothing in Jersey tops the Hamptons.

Ever heard of a little town called Mantoloking?  Yeah, it makes the Hamptons look like trash.

My grandparents live in Mantoloking.  It's REALLY nice.  The average house sells for over around 1.5 million.  My grandma's house is worth 1.7 million.

It's crazy.  The beaches are IMMACULATE and private.

And, by the way, we ARE awesome. :P

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:17:16 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.

Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :(

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:19:29 PM
Oh, my mistake, it's the Verizon WIRELESS headquarters, not for the whole corporation.  Oh well, it's still cool.  It's this HUGE complex on the outskirts of town.  There was controversy because previous owners Pfizer and AT&T allowed people to own homes on the edges of the gigantic property but Verizon ordered them off the property.
Yea, family used to work there. Finally they are actually moving in.

I know, really!  Maybe our town will actually get the Verizon cable service thing... I don't remember what it's called but Bernardsville has it for some reason. 

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:20:41 PM
Most definately. Oh and I am not Italian but I know people who very well could have "connections". (Who am I kidding, I am almost certain)

Me neither, but I know quite a few people with connections, so we're good. :P
Pretty weird, you would have thought at least one of us was.

I'm Italian, but I'm not affiliated with the mafia... That I know of...

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Michael Z on September 04, 2006, 01:21:54 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.

Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :(

Of course you are, you're Republican! :D
 
Just kidding, please don't hurt me...


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:22:28 PM
So, now poor people are bad?

And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"?  And "Ho-Ho-Kus"?  Eww.

I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks.

Ho-ho-kus is where my dad grew up.  It's really nice there.  Right next to Ridgewood.

I like Basking Ridge and Mantoloking better. :)

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:23:50 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.

Hey, Fezzy and I aren't snobs... :(

Of course you are, you're Republican! :D
 
Just kidding, please don't hurt me...

Aww... I won't hurt you... *pats head*

*holds knife behind back*

Heheh...

*stabs Michael*

Just kidding! :P

Rin-chan

ps- Seriously, I don't care that you said that. :)


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:28:37 PM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.

TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE
WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million
MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million

No other Hamptons towns even made it close.  You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways.  And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town.  Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect.  I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better.

The Hamptons suck.  My uncle used to live there.  There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking.

Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy?  No school in town.  That makes for less money wasted on taxes.

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:29:03 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.
Because people who get paid decently are snobs.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 01:32:22 PM
Family all around North Jersey, Bergen and Passaic and Hudson. I live in Sussex County. How about you?

Family in Passaic and Camden, I'm in Somerset.

I have family in Ocean and Somerset.  And, like Fezzy, I live in Somerset. ;D

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:33:01 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

NYC has the high paying jobs.  NJ benefits from being close to it.
NYC is practically NJ anyway. But we have our own stuff as I listed before.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:34:21 PM
So, now poor people are bad?

And what kind of name is "Sea Girt"?  And "Ho-Ho-Kus"?  Eww.

I prefer to live in a decent state, with normal names like Sequim and Humptulips, thanks.

Ho-ho-kus is where my dad grew up.  It's really nice there.  Right next to Ridgewood.

I like Basking Ridge and Mantoloking better. :)

Rin-chan
I have family in HoHoKus. Very nice town and extremely convenient.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 04, 2006, 01:38:38 PM
Family all around North Jersey, Bergen and Passaic and Hudson. I live in Sussex County. How about you?

Family in Passaic and Camden, I'm in Somerset.

I have family in Ocean and Somerset.  And, like Fezzy, I live in Somerset. ;D

Rin-chan
Is Somerset considered North Jersey? I'd say it's Central. North Jersey ROCKS!


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Virginian87 on September 04, 2006, 04:45:34 PM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?

Actually, I believe it's "Liberty and Prosperity".


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Virginian87 on September 04, 2006, 04:50:39 PM
Yes it is because it shows that NJ is a very successful place with high paying jobs.

Yeah, what the world needs, more snobs.

...because the last thing we need is more elitist latte liberals!!!!!!!!!!!! :P


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Alcon on September 04, 2006, 04:54:51 PM
Is it true the state motto is, "The armpit of America"?

Actually, I believe it's "Liberty and Prosperity".

Actually, it's "Liberty, Prosperity and Armpits."


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 04, 2006, 05:20:50 PM
(All of this New Jersey-flogging is in good fun.  I'm sure it's a very nice state, and I would definiely not mind a place like Bergen County. :P)

We only have Seattle?  We have a metropolitan area that stretches from north of Seattle down to south of Tacoma.  Several million people, and none of the crapholes New Jersey has.

Gay people are nice.

I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 04, 2006, 05:34:39 PM
All I know is this, NJ is a nice place, I like being able to go to NYC and the ESPN Zone for lunch and home for dinner.  I like the fact that I live in a semi-quiet, until the Democrats took over a very suburban town.  I like that I can go down the shore, I have family in Point Pleasant, and be there in an hour.  I can also go out to the rural areas and farms in Sussex County and back soon.

Bottom line is this:
NJ is nice because I can go to the biggest city in the world (which as mentioned before in NJ it is just "the city", and everyone knows what you mean), down the shore, or out to farmland and all take only an hour.

If we start electing non-scumbugs, either Dem and Republican (Forrester, Menendez and Corzine 1,2,3), NJ will be a much nicer place to live.  Just let's hope Menendez's dream of making all of NJ Hudson County doesn't come true.

Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County.  I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally.  Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ?????????? on September 04, 2006, 06:03:23 PM
I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them.

Why, so you know which park to go to? McGreevy might now, you may want to email him.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 06:15:23 PM
Is Somerset considered North Jersey? I'd say it's Central. North Jersey ROCKS!

Well relative to you, we are Central Jersey, but I think we're considered North because we're by NYC.  I'd say Central is Middlesex, Mercer, Monmouth, and maybe even Burlington.  All the ones in between NYC and Philly metro areas.  Whatever, we're in the very northeastern corner of Somerset, so at least we're North Jersey.

I say we can all agree on North-Central Jersey.

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 04, 2006, 06:18:48 PM
I live in Bergen, please let me know where this high gay areas are, because I am not familiar w/them.

Why, so you know which park to go to? McGreevy might now, you may want to email him.

Ahahaha!!  He was such a freak...

I'm not trying to say anything against gay people, but I thought he was a freak BEFORE he came out of the closet.

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Smash255 on September 04, 2006, 10:20:27 PM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.

TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE
WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million
MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million

No other Hamptons towns even made it close.  You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways.  And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town.  Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect.  I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better.

The Hamptons suck.  My uncle used to live there.  There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking.

Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy?  No school in town.  That makes for less money wasted on taxes.

Rin-chan

The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water.   Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast".  Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc.  I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well.   Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to.  And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures)


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 05, 2006, 12:30:15 AM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.

TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE
WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million
MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million

No other Hamptons towns even made it close.  You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways.  And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town.  Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect.  I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better.

The Hamptons suck.  My uncle used to live there.  There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking.

Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy?  No school in town.  That makes for less money wasted on taxes.

Rin-chan

The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water.   Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast".  Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc.  I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well.   Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to.  And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures)
The Hamptons do not suck! They are awesome and beautiful.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 05, 2006, 12:32:14 AM
Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County.  I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally.  Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control.

When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area?  And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into.  Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day.  AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway.
Depends from town to town in south Bergen. North Bergen is all the rich towns. Its still a nice place to live convenience wise and standard of living.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 05, 2006, 08:13:47 AM
Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County.  I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally.  Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control.

North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death.  South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing.  People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc.  And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started.

Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's.  He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs.

When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area?  And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into.  Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day.  AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway.
Depends from town to town in south Bergen. North Bergen is all the rich towns. Its still a nice place to live convenience wise and standard of living.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 06, 2006, 11:01:55 AM
I'm from Central Islip.

Yeah, the Haptons pretty much are LI's trump card.  Oh, and Fire Island, until it disappears under the waves.

TOWN (ZIP CODE) / MEDIAN HOME PRICE
WATER MILL, N.Y. (11976) / $1.58 million
MANTOLOKING, N.J. (08738) / $1.33 million

No other Hamptons towns even made it close.  You are fast losing your grip on extremely over-priced yet lovely beach getaways.  And I must say, Mantoloking is quite a high-class, up and coming town.  Rin-chan owns a house down there that I went to visit with her, and it was perfect.  I can't imagine the Hamptons being any better.

The Hamptons suck.  My uncle used to live there.  There are only like one or two towns that are kinda nice, but nowhere near Mantoloking.

Oh, and wannt know why Mantoloking is so spiffy?  No school in town.  That makes for less money wasted on taxes.

Rin-chan

The Hamptons are really nice with the beaches, some very immaculate homes right on the water.   Some of the nicest areas on Long Island are along the north shore in Nassau County (known as the "Gold Coast".  Not enough sales data in some of these areas (as many of them are small towns) to make the Forbes Most expesinve List, but the median price in areas like Sands Point, Old Brookville, Matinecock, Muttontown, Centre Island, Locust Valley, etc.  I remember seeing something years ago (97 maybe) that the median home in Matinecock was $1.6 million (and this was BEFORE the real estate boom in which prices here have more than doubled since 2000) Sands Point is just absolutley nuts and the median price has to be in the several million range as well.   Many of these areas were listed as $1 million+ in the 2000 census (the highest that data goes up to.  And as I sid average prices here have more than doubled since then, and that $1 million + in the census, was well over $1million, and that is seven year old data (its absed off 99 figures)
The Hamptons do not suck! They are awesome and beautiful.

Have you stayed in Mantoloking?

If you have, then you would understand.

Oh, and I meant they sucked compared to places like Mantoloking.

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Rin-chan on September 06, 2006, 11:04:13 AM
Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County.  I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally.  Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control.

North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death.  South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing.  People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc.  And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started.

Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's.  He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs.

When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area?  And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into.  Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day.  AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway.
Depends from town to town in south Bergen. North Bergen is all the rich towns. Its still a nice place to live convenience wise and standard of living.

I agree.

Personally, it's not as nice as Somerset county (only because that's my home :) ), but I have spent quite a bit of time in parts of Bergen county and it's very nice.  Lots of traffic in places llike Ridgewood, but very nice.

Rin-chan


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on September 06, 2006, 02:58:05 PM
Conan, I do where exactly you are, but I'm in southern Bergen and we can already feel the effects of the Democrats trying to make everything rundown crime-ridden Hudson County.  I'd hesitate to vote Menendez unless you want to be killed, literally.  Hell, someone broke my cousin's car window w/a baseball bat last night, stuff like that never happened when the GOP was in control.

North Bergen is Hudson, and that place scares me to death.  South Bergen county used to be a nice area, but now that the Dems are in control, they weren't before, they are making it more like Hudson County, and crime rates are increasing.  People are coming from North Bergen and Passaic and reaking havoc.  And five windows got smashed in one night, that's pretty bad, the cop said it was kids going crazy before school started.

Maybe it's not the Democrats fault as much as it Guilliani's.  He wiped crime out of the city, but it didn't disappear, it went to the suburbs.

When exactly were the Republicans ever in control of anything in that area?  And I don't think Menendez is very closely related to your cousin's car being broken into.  Besides, so what if it got broken into, it's not like everyone you know is having that happen to them every day.  AND I've never really considered southern Bergen one of the nicer areas of New Jersey anyway.
Depends from town to town in south Bergen. North Bergen is all the rich towns. Its still a nice place to live convenience wise and standard of living.

I agree.

Personally, it's not as nice as Somerset county (only because that's my home :) ), but I have spent quite a bit of time in parts of Bergen county and it's very nice.  Lots of traffic in places llike Ridgewood, but very nice.

Rin-chan
Bergen is the place to be.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on May 19, 2007, 09:17:03 PM
New Jersey is a nice state, end of story.
I can't believe you dug this up. I was looking at it to check something that someone said last year and then all of the sudden i get to the end and you commented on it today. very weird.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Platypus on May 20, 2007, 08:11:41 AM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 08:25:26 AM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

Who could NJ get any worse government wise?  Merge with NY.  Although I guess they have a much better governor and better assembly


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: ?????????? on May 20, 2007, 08:26:57 AM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

*ducks the assured enfilade*


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 11:04:17 AM
Do we have any real southern Jersey posters (meaning really south direction wise)?  I know Fezzy and Rin-chan are middle state, me and Verily are in Bergen County (NE) and Conan is out in Sussex (NW)


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 20, 2007, 11:05:02 AM
We should get rid of PA and split it between NJ and Ohio. Maybe then people would stop talking about PA-13


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Verily on May 20, 2007, 06:44:55 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on May 20, 2007, 08:27:13 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only  only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: CultureKing on May 20, 2007, 08:29:48 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true?
Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas)


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 08:41:38 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Plus move Bergen County to PA or its own state and then I will accept


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on May 20, 2007, 09:09:32 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Plus move Bergen County to PA or its own state and then I will accept

Why would you want Bergen in PA?

B/c I don't want to live in NY, nice for visit not nice to live.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on May 20, 2007, 09:34:55 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true?
Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas)
Yes we are just a continuous piece of suburbia. We do have the pine barrens which is huge and protected though. And there are also plenty of farms such as in the northeast and tons of cornfields throughout the state but according to the US Census, we are a big blob of suburbia.

Some mountains in North Carolina (Appalachian) are pretty huge.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Verily on May 20, 2007, 09:52:52 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only  only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything.

Does everything have to be for partisan advantage?

Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true?

Not really, despite what Conan seems to think, and certainly not suburbia in the type you get on the West Coast consisting entirely of new developments from within the past two decades.

Parts of New Jersey are extremely urban: Hudson County belongs in New York City, and inner (as in, closer to NYC) Essex and Union Counties are also urban. The cities of Clifton, Passaic and Paterson make another urban area in the southern lobe of Passaic County.

Where I live, Bergen County, and in Middlesex, Monmouth and outer Passaic, Union and Essex Counties, the areas are mostly suburban, but old-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1930s and 40s.

Somerset, Sussex and Monmouth Counties are mostly new-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1970s and 80s.

Hunterdon and Warren Counties are mostly rural, though southern Hunterdon County starts to be suburban. Their primary industry is horse ranching.

Along the coast, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties are solid resort towns the entire length with farms inland (except in Monmouth, which is being absorbed into the NYC metro). Atlantic City is an isolated incident in Atlantic County, and it's really not very big.

Inner Mercer County, aka Trenton, is urban, though it's not a really big city. Outer Mercer County along with Burlington County along the Delaware River is suburban. Inner Camden County is urban around Camden and suburban to rural in the interior. Gloucester County is suburban. Salem and Cumberland Counties are entirely rural and small, poor towns.

Here's a map that approximates what is where in NJ. Red is urban, yellow is suburban, blue is rural, and green is touristy coast.

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Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 20, 2007, 10:00:35 PM
What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Verily on May 21, 2007, 02:27:35 PM
What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz.

Around half of the property is second homes. The area industry is essentially dormant and almost rural during the winter and entirely focused on the beaches during the summer.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on May 21, 2007, 02:37:16 PM
What makes Touristy coast different from suburbia/urban? Enlighten me plz.

Around half of the property is second homes. The area industry is essentially dormant and almost rural during the winter and entirely focused on the beaches during the summer.
Ah now I see


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on May 21, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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So instead of having 5 dem senators (and eventually 6), you'd rather have only  only 4? If anything PA is the lesser of the 3 states in terms of being worth anything.

Does everything have to be for partisan advantage?

Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true?

Not really, despite what Conan seems to think, and certainly not suburbia in the type you get on the West Coast consisting entirely of new developments from within the past two decades.

Parts of New Jersey are extremely urban: Hudson County belongs in New York City, and inner (as in, closer to NYC) Essex and Union Counties are also urban. The cities of Clifton, Passaic and Paterson make another urban area in the southern lobe of Passaic County.

Where I live, Bergen County, and in Middlesex, Monmouth and outer Passaic, Union and Essex Counties, the areas are mostly suburban, but old-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1930s and 40s.

Somerset, Sussex and Monmouth Counties are mostly new-growth suburban, consisting of houses built mostly in the 1970s and 80s.

Hunterdon and Warren Counties are mostly rural, though southern Hunterdon County starts to be suburban. Their primary industry is horse ranching.

Along the coast, Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties are solid resort towns the entire length with farms inland (except in Monmouth, which is being absorbed into the NYC metro). Atlantic City is an isolated incident in Atlantic County, and it's really not very big.

Inner Mercer County, aka Trenton, is urban, though it's not a really big city. Outer Mercer County along with Burlington County along the Delaware River is suburban. Inner Camden County is urban around Camden and suburban to rural in the interior. Gloucester County is suburban. Salem and Cumberland Counties are entirely rural and small, poor towns.

Here's a map that approximates what is where in NJ. Red is urban, yellow is suburban, blue is rural, and green is touristy coast.

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What part of the US Census classification that all of our counties are at least suburban don't you get. It's not what I seem to think, it's the information out there. I talked about the multiple farms too and didn't need to mention places like Newark, Hudson, and Camden are urban. NJ is just an expanse of suburbia. It doesnt matter when homes were built..suburbia is suburbia.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Verily on May 21, 2007, 09:35:27 PM
What part of the US Census classification that all of our counties are at least suburban don't you get. It's not what I seem to think, it's the information out there. I talked about the multiple farms too and didn't need to mention places like Newark, Hudson, and Camden are urban. NJ is just an expanse of suburbia. It doesnt matter when homes were built..suburbia is suburbia.

The definition of suburbia used by the Census bureau is absurdly broad. Have someone from outside New Jersey visit Cumberland County and then have them say with a straight face that Cumberland County is suburban. You won't be able to do it, and the same is true for Warren County, and for Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties away from the coast.


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: CultureKing on May 21, 2007, 11:00:27 PM
What is the point of NJ's existence? Suburbia for one state and extention of countryside for another....might as well be merged into NY and PA.

I for one wouldn't object to a division and annexation of New Jersey by New York and Pennsylvania.

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Personally I think that is a pretty good idea. By the way here in Washington everyone seems to think that New Jersey is just an endless expanse of Suberbia, is this true?
Also to make your state better you could just add mountains it worked for us (and not little hills like the Appalachians, but real, meaty mountains like the Rockies, Cascades or Sierra Nevadas)
Yes we are just a continuous piece of suburbia. We do have the pine barrens which is huge and protected though. And there are also plenty of farms such as in the northeast and tons of cornfields throughout the state but according to the US Census, we are a big blob of suburbia.

Some mountains in North Carolina (Appalachian) are pretty huge.

well, Mount Mitchell is the tallest at 6,684 ft, not too bad. I cant really call it "huge" or a true mountain simply because you can nearly drive the entire way up the hill, also I like to think of it as a mountain only if it is a truly dramatic rise (like a 4,000 ft rise next to the sea could be a mountain but a 1000 ft rise on a 4,000 ft plateu doesnt quite cut it). I love one of the captions to one of the pictures: "Looking west from the parking lot atop the summit."


Title: Re: Get to Know Your Country NEW JERSEY!
Post by: Conan on May 22, 2007, 01:01:13 AM
What part of the US Census classification that all of our counties are at least suburban don't you get. It's not what I seem to think, it's the information out there. I talked about the multiple farms too and didn't need to mention places like Newark, Hudson, and Camden are urban. NJ is just an expanse of suburbia. It doesnt matter when homes were built..suburbia is suburbia.

The definition of suburbia used by the Census bureau is absurdly broad. Have someone from outside New Jersey visit Cumberland County and then have them say with a straight face that Cumberland County is suburban. You won't be able to do it, and the same is true for Warren County, and for Ocean, Atlantic and Cape May Counties away from the coast.
You must not travel out of state much. In the rest of the states, you can see what rural really is.