Title: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 03:22:26 PM May this be the offical discussion thread for Laffey/Chafee. Personally, I'm pumped. I'll try to get info on when polls close and an updating results page now.
EDIT: "Eyewitness News" says polls close at 8 PM link (http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5394824&nav=F2DO) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 03:23:33 PM Is it 8 o'clock yet? This is going to be fun. :)
http://www.electionri.com/Results/TopTicket.htm (http://www.electionri.com/Results/TopTicket.htm) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Joel the Attention Whore on September 12, 2006, 03:24:50 PM I predict a Chafee victory.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Rob on September 12, 2006, 03:35:02 PM I have a feeling that Chafee will win it. But really, who knows? Polling for this race was garbage.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Smash255 on September 12, 2006, 03:56:42 PM I have a feeling that Chafee will win it. But really, who knows? Polling for this race was garbage. Well considering their are about 10 Republicans in Rhode Island you can't expect accurate polling. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 03:58:10 PM I have a feeling that Chafee will win it. But really, who knows? Polling for this race was garbage. Well considering their are about 10 Republicans in Rhode Island you can't expect accurate polling. Is it that hard to get the phone numbers of ten people? :P Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Smash255 on September 12, 2006, 03:59:26 PM I have a feeling that Chafee will win it. But really, who knows? Polling for this race was garbage. Well considering their are about 10 Republicans in Rhode Island you can't expect accurate polling. Is it that hard to get the phone numbers of ten people? :P No, but if one person changes their mind the poll really comes out messed up :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: YRABNNRM on September 12, 2006, 04:05:02 PM WTF. Who's the kid in the helmet and camo? Laffey's son?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 04:09:59 PM WTF. Who's the kid in the helmet and camo? Laffey's son? Hahaha! I was wondering the same thing! I'm sure it's his son preparing for today's "battle." :P Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WalterMitty on September 12, 2006, 04:12:34 PM phil, why exactly do you want a senator whitehouse from ri?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: riceowl on September 12, 2006, 04:14:27 PM this is going to be, decidingly, the last straw for my blue avatar. I'm already registered independent, and consider myself such...so. we'll see.
i hate the 2 party system. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 04:15:47 PM phil, why exactly do you want a senator whitehouse from ri? Same question to you. Hate to break this to the Lincoln lovers but your boy would also lose to Whitehouse. The Dems have a superior candidate no matter what. Instead of wasting money to defend Chafee, why not go with the Republican in the race and admit that we have no shot in November? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 04:18:05 PM this is going to be, decidingly, the last straw for my blue avatar. I'm already registered independent, and consider myself such...so. we'll see. i hate the 2 party system. Stephen Laffey is closer to the ideals of this party in the present day and it's a shame that it takes a few candidates for you to realize that. If you are an Independent and registered as one then why the blue avatar to begin with? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: riceowl on September 12, 2006, 04:18:37 PM Rasmussen 08/23 - 08/23 500 LV 42 44 6 Whitehouse +2.0
Fleming 08/16 - 08/21 401 RV 43 42 15 Chafee +1.0 Clearly, an insurmountable lead. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WalterMitty on September 12, 2006, 04:18:50 PM phil, why exactly do you want a senator whitehouse from ri? Same question to you. Hate to break this to the Lincoln lovers but your boy would also lose to Whitehouse. The Dems have a superior candidate no matter what. Instead of wasting money to defend Chafee, why not go with the Republican in the race and admit that we have no shot in November? chafee certainly can beat whitehouse (doesnt mean he will, but he has a realistic shot). laffey has NO shot. if laffey wins the primary and the dems take control of the senate 51-49, will you be happy? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Rob on September 12, 2006, 04:19:48 PM The Dems have a superior candidate no matter what. Instead of wasting money to defend Chafee, why not go with the Republican in the race and admit that we have no shot in November? This is true. If Chafee wins tonight, the GOP is going to blow a few million dollars in Rhode Island so that he can lose the general with 47 percent of the vote. Doesn't make much sense to me. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 04:27:56 PM The Dems have a superior candidate no matter what. Instead of wasting money to defend Chafee, why not go with the Republican in the race and admit that we have no shot in November? This is true. If Chafee wins tonight, the GOP is going to blow a few million dollars in Rhode Island so that he can lose the general with 47 percent of the vote. Doesn't make much sense to me. Actually, Lincoln Chaffee has repeatedly gauranteed that if he wins the primary, he will spend as much of his family fortune (he's very rich) as necessary to win the general. He only trails Whitehouse by two points right now. So, basically, republicans who are supporting Laffey are just plain retarded b/c Laffey has no chance AND will have a fraction of the funds Chaffee would have in the general. The NRSC probably wouldn't have to spend anything if Chafee wins the primary. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Alcon on September 12, 2006, 04:30:15 PM Corbin, come to the party-disillusioned independent crowd, where the liberals call you a conservative and the conservatives call you a liberal!
Really, it's fun. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Rob on September 12, 2006, 04:35:59 PM The NRSC probably wouldn't have to spend anything if Chafee wins the primary. I'm sure they will- look at all the money they've poured into the primary. Either way, I'm looking forward to Senator Whitehouse. Corbin, come to the party-disillusioned independent crowd, where the liberals call you a conservative and the conservatives call you a liberal! Obviously you're neither. You're just an effete latte-sipping suburbanite who likes to study election results. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Alcon on September 12, 2006, 04:38:05 PM Obviously you're neither. You're just an effete latte-sipping suburbanite who likes to study election results. I am sick and tired of people like you mis-representing my fundamental beliefs in life, how I was raised, and flagrantly lying about my political positions. I will not allow these lies. The truth must be told. I don't, and have never, liked lattes. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 04:44:42 PM The NRSC probably wouldn't have to spend anything if Chafee wins the primary. I'm sure they will- look at all the money they've poured into the primary. Either way, I'm looking forward to Senator Whitehouse. Why on Earth would they blow any money when Chaffee is going to spend whatever amount necessary to win from his own fortune and they have six other vulnerable Senate seats to defend? Even Liddy Dole is not quite that stupid. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 04:47:34 PM The Providence Journal is reporting that polling places are running low on "disaffiliated" forms. This could be very big news for those of us who can't wait another four hours to hear the final results.
Independents are allowed to vote in party primaries but as soon as they do they are automatically registered as being members of that party. Polling places in RI have disaffiliation forms so that after independents vote they can return to being registered independents. Silly bureaucracy. The fact that polling places are running out of these forms probably means that more independents are voting than had been expected. Convensional wisdom would suggest that high independent turnout benefits Chafee. On the other hand, the first city to start running low on forms today was Cranston - Laffey's home base. So we'll see... Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 04:53:05 PM The Providence Journal is reporting that polling places are running low on "disaffiliated" forms. This could be very big news for those of us who can't wait another four hours to hear the final results. Independents are allowed to vote in party primaries but as soon as they do they are automatically registered as being members of that party. Polling places in RI have disaffiliation forms so that after independents vote they can return to being registered independents. Silly bureaucracy. The fact that polling places are running out of these forms probably means that more independents are voting than had been expected. Convensional wisdom would suggest that high independent turnout benefits Chafee. On the other hand, the first city to start running low on forms today was Cranston - Laffey's home base. So we'll see... That just makes more questions arise. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Rob on September 12, 2006, 04:53:32 PM Why on Earth would they blow any money when Chaffee is going to spend whatever amount necessary to win from his own fortune The national GOP has said that it's not sending any money into Rhode Island if Laffey wins the primary. That would seem to imply that they are planning to send money into Rhode Island if Chafee is the nominee. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 05:09:46 PM Why on Earth would they blow any money when Chaffee is going to spend whatever amount necessary to win from his own fortune The national GOP has said that it's not sending any money into Rhode Island if Laffey wins the primary. That would seem to imply that they are planning to send money into Rhode Island if Chafee is the nominee. It WOULD..... IF Chaffee wasn't a gazillionaire in his own right who has said he will spend whatever necessary to win in the general. Therefore it dosen't say anything at all conclusive about what the NRSC plans to do if Chaffee wins. Laffey would need money from the NRSC if he won the primary, Chaffee would not. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 05:21:15 PM 1. The new word form RI is that turnout is suprisingly low. Conventional wisdom says this benefits Laffey. 2. Laffey is also independently wealthy, to the tune of about 13 million. I don't know if he'd be willing to spend his own money in the gneral like Chafee would, but it's possible. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: YRABNNRM on September 12, 2006, 05:22:38 PM RI has an open primary, us Chafee supporters better hope that alot of Independents are voting.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 05:25:17 PM Beginning at 9:15 eastern you can watch the results come in at http://www.elections.ri.gov/ Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 05:43:05 PM Just as a little FYI, the supporting of Chafee by the national party will probably have little effect monetarily on the other Senate seats that Republicans are trying to hold this year.
Santorum (PA) certainly can self-fund. So can Talent (MO), DeWine (OH) and Burns (MT), though DeWine and Burns perhaps a little less so. Down the scale, Allen (VA) certainly can and Corker (TN) will undoubtedly be spending his own money soon. Where this has any effect is on potential Republican pick ups, like Kean (NJ), Steele (MD) even though he has a lead in cash-on-hand right now and Kennedy (MN). Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 12, 2006, 06:03:49 PM Let's see who gets to lose to Whitehouse.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 06:14:15 PM Just as a little FYI, the supporting of Chafee by the national party will probably have little effect monetarily on the other Senate seats that Republicans are trying to hold this year. Santorum (PA) certainly can self-fund. So can Talent (MO), DeWine (OH) and Burns (MT), though DeWine and Burns perhaps a little less so. Down the scale, Allen (VA) certainly can and Corker (TN) will undoubtedly be spending his own money soon. Where this has any effect is on potential Republican pick ups, like Kean (NJ), Steele (MD) even though he has a lead in cash-on-hand right now and Kennedy (MN). This is true, though the NRSC has the added benefit of being able to run really nasty negative ads without the Republican candidate having to say they approve of the message. So this makes NRSC money at least somewhat important. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 06:27:36 PM Just as a little FYI, the supporting of Chafee by the national party will probably have little effect monetarily on the other Senate seats that Republicans are trying to hold this year. Santorum (PA) certainly can self-fund. So can Talent (MO), DeWine (OH) and Burns (MT), though DeWine and Burns perhaps a little less so. Down the scale, Allen (VA) certainly can and Corker (TN) will undoubtedly be spending his own money soon. Where this has any effect is on potential Republican pick ups, like Kean (NJ), Steele (MD) even though he has a lead in cash-on-hand right now and Kennedy (MN). This is true, though the NRSC has the added benefit of being able to run really nasty negative ads without the Republican candidate having to say they approve of the message. So this makes NRSC money at least somewhat important. True, but remember with the McCain-Feingold laws in place, and with the FCC's approval, you can no longer personally run ads on television or radio (fortunately, not the internet) criticizing members of Congress for the last 60 days of a campaign. Therefore, the incumbents have less to worry about relying on outside groups to fund commercials than do challengers. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 07:09:32 PM Just as a little FYI, the supporting of Chafee by the national party will probably have little effect monetarily on the other Senate seats that Republicans are trying to hold this year. Santorum (PA) certainly can self-fund. So can Talent (MO), DeWine (OH) and Burns (MT), though DeWine and Burns perhaps a little less so. Down the scale, Allen (VA) certainly can and Corker (TN) will undoubtedly be spending his own money soon. Where this has any effect is on potential Republican pick ups, like Kean (NJ), Steele (MD) even though he has a lead in cash-on-hand right now and Kennedy (MN). This is not really true at all. When you say "self-fund", you make it sound as if they are wealthy and can personally bankroll their campaigns. That is not the case. Talent and Dewine may have larger campaign accounts than their challengers, true, but not so much that they can weather the $7 million in ad buys the DSCC has planned for each of these races without help from the NRSC. It makes a lot of difference if the national party dosen't have to sqaunder money on Chaffee and spend it on other races instead. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: memphis on September 12, 2006, 07:12:48 PM Considering that the Republican Party has already declared a Laffey victory to be paramount to a Democratic victory in the general, does anybody else get the hunch that many Dems may have voted for Laffey, leading to the widely reported shortage of disaffiliation forms?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 07:13:05 PM May this be the offical discussion thread for Laffey/Chafee. Personally, I'm pumped. I'll try to get info on when polls close and an updating results page now. EDIT: "Eyewitness News" says polls close at 8 PM link (http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5394824&nav=F2DO) It looks like results will start coming in at 9 and not 8. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 07:26:13 PM This race is so important in so many different ways. Simply put, with a Chafee victory, taking back the Senate becomes nearly impossible.
If Laffey wins, it'll mean Democrats will start the cycle off with 46 seats. They'll then likely win in Pennsylvania, Montana and Ohio. This leaves Missouri, Tennessee, Virginia and New Jersey to decide the fate of the upper chamber. The DSCC won't have to spend a dime in NJ because of Menendez's warchest. That means the $5 million they save in RI will go to defeating Jim Talent, George Allen and Bob Corker. At this juncture, I highly doubt the Senate will flip, but if Chafee wins, it'll become nearly impossible. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 07:58:15 PM How long till the results start to come in?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 07:59:32 PM From "The Hotline":
" Steve Laffey's campaign aides will be stunned if they lose. Campaign sources say they hit all their target numbers in every targeted precinct etc, assuming a turnout of 50 to 55k voters. These are just targeting predictors, not vote counts, so anything can happen, but everything has gone as planned for their turnout operation. The Secretary of State reports that precincts across the state ran out of the more than 20K Unaffiliation forms they distributed. That suggests a least three possibilities: 1. Independents and Democrats voted for Chafee and then re-established their independent credentials 2. Voters who normally vote D in municipal elections switched to R for the purposes of choosing Laffey or and then switched back 3. GOP voters switched to the Democratic Party for the purposes of the election and had no interest in the GOP primary. Or all of the above. " I highly doubt #3 is happening. It's either 1 or 2 or a combination of both. I think if Whitehouse and the Dems were having voters switch to independent to vote for Laffey in the primary, therefore ensuring a Whitehouse win, we would have heard about it. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 08:00:21 PM How long till the results start to come in? Should be shortly after 9. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:02:11 PM How long till the results start to come in? Should be shortly after 9. What's that in U.K time? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: memphis on September 12, 2006, 08:02:50 PM How long till the results start to come in? Should be shortly after 9. What's that in U.K time? Right now :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 08:04:29 PM If Whitehouse or the Dems were turning out people to vote for Laffey they did an incredible job of keeping it quiet. In a state as small as Rhode Island this is near impossible.
Looking to the general, I think Whitehouse is a slight favorite against Chafee unless Chafee wins big tonight. Emphasis on slight. Whitehouse is a stronger favorite against Laffey, but don't underestimate Laffey. He would break 40 for sure and at least make Whitehouse work for a victory. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 08:09:06 PM This is taking forever!
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 08:24:00 PM This is taking forever! Yeah. This is gay. I'm gonna end up going to bed before i know who won. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:31:50 PM With 9% of precincts reporting, Lincoln Chafee leads 55%-45%.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:33:16 PM With 9% of precincts reporting, Lincoln Chafee leads 55%-45%. Got a link? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 08:35:44 PM http://www.turnto10.com/politics/9802560/detail.html
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:38:22 PM http://www.turnto10.com/politics/9802560/detail.html Thanks Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 08:38:35 PM This is almost certainly wrong (look at Whitehouse's distant third-place finish in the Democratic contest), but check out http://www.abc6.com/primary.shtml just for kicks.
Perhaps actually real is http://www.turnto10.com/politics/9802560/detail.html from what seems to be Providence's NBC affiliate. Also, you might want to check out the "COMMENTS" thread under "Rhode Island: Primary Review" on Ron's blog in http://www.politics1.com/index.htm . By this time someone has probably beaten me to this by several minutes, but the count I see on http://www.turnto10.com/politics/9802560/detail.html is: Lincoln Chafee 2,735 55% Stephen Laffey 2,241 45% Precincts Reporting - 14 out of 515 - 3% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:39:28 PM 27% in:
Chafee 54% Laffey 46% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: ATFFL on September 12, 2006, 08:40:24 PM 27% in: Chafee 54% Laffey 46% Where are you getting these? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 08:40:33 PM With 9% of precincts reporting, Lincoln Chafee leads 55%-45%. You must have meant with 9 precincts reporting, as the site you later provided the link to only shows 3% of precincts (14 out of 515) in yet. Okay, I guess maybe not, since it was someone else who (before me) linked to http://www.turnto10.com/politics/9802560/detail.html . Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 08:40:52 PM http://wpri.conversent.net/election.html
Chaffee 10,033 - 54% Laffey - 8,577 - 46% 27% of 515 precincts reporting Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:43:06 PM 35% reporting:
Chafee 53% Laffey 47% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:44:25 PM Langevin over 60% now. I was starting to get worried...
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:45:53 PM Langevin over 60% now. I was starting to get worried... Spoke too soon... Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:45:59 PM 46% reporting:
Chafee 54% Laffey 46% Unfortunately, it looks like Chafee is going to win. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 08:46:20 PM LINCOLN CHAFEE 18,216 54%
STEPHEN LAFFEY 15,769 46% Laffey probably can't win. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:46:35 PM 46% reporting: Chafee 54% Laffey 46% Unfortunately, it looks like Chafee is going to win. Those results are coming in too fast. I don't trust them. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 08:47:37 PM Those results are coming in too fast. I don't trust them. Polls have been closed for awhile now and there aren't many precincts in the state. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:48:20 PM Those results are coming in too fast. I don't trust them. Ummmmmmmm............OK. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 08:50:09 PM If these figures are correct, the Republican primary in RI will have broken all turnout records for such an event. The previous high was right around 40,000.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:50:19 PM Those results are coming in too fast. I don't trust them. Ummmmmmmm............OK. I'm used to a slower progression of results. I'm becoming more and more distraught over a Chafee win. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 08:51:51 PM 53% in, results holding 54-46%.
It's over Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 08:52:08 PM Langevin over 60% now. I was starting to get worried... Spoke too soon... He's back over 60% again :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 08:52:29 PM Where could Laffey find...uh...3000 more votes?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 08:52:41 PM Looking more and more ominous for Laffey
From http://wpri.conversent.net/election.html US Senate Republican 53% of 515 Reporting LINCOLN CHAFEE 19,778 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 17,103 46% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 08:52:55 PM Yeah, my sources citing low turnout were obviously wrong. If we're at 35,000 with 50% reporting, this is going to be huge.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:53:43 PM Is this the next Dewey defeats Truman?
According to Hotline, "Steve Laffey's campaign aides will be stunned if they lose." Hotline also quotes Laffey's team as saying they've "hit all their target numbers in every targeted precinct." Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:55:14 PM Does anybody find it odd that only one site has over 10% of the RI vote counted?
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:55:39 PM Damn independents!!
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:56:28 PM Damn independents!! Damn those smart Republicans who knew that a Laffey victory would jeopardize their party's control of the Senate!!! Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 08:57:00 PM If this margin keeps up, I would consider it a fairly impressive winning margin for Chafee, all things considering.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 08:58:57 PM If this margin keeps up, I would consider it a fairly impressive winning margin for Chafee, all things considering. I'm speechless. This is a huge victory for the NRSC, the 72 Hour Task Force and the GOP's hope of holding the Congress. This will hurt the "anti-incumbent" narrative that the media has been hyping. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Boris on September 12, 2006, 08:59:15 PM Any call from the AP yet? Over 50% of the precincts have reported and Chaffee has an 8 point lead....
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 08:59:28 PM I was expecting a closer race.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:00:21 PM Is this the next Dewey defeats Truman? According to Hotline, "Steve Laffey's campaign aides will be stunned if they lose." Hotline also quotes Laffey's team as saying they've "hit all their target numbers in every targeted precinct." Which begs the question, what the **** were Laffey's target numbers? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:01:19 PM 62% of 515 Reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 21,879 53% STEPHEN LAFFEY 19,099 47% Is it too late for Laffey to close? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Soaring Eagle on September 12, 2006, 09:02:07 PM If this margin keeps up, I would consider it a fairly impressive winning margin for Chafee, all things considering. I'm speechless. This is a huge victory for the NRSC, the 72 Hour Task Force and the GOP's hope of holding the Congress. This will hurt the "anti-incumbent" narrative that the media has been hyping. Well, the fact that one of the last sane Republicans in the Senate got challenged in a close race (which isn't over yet), is fairly anti-incumbent, IMO. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 09:02:37 PM 62% of 515 Reporting LINCOLN CHAFEE 21,879 53% STEPHEN LAFFEY 19,099 47% Is it too late for Laffey to close? Depends on where the votes are coming from... Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 09:03:03 PM Supposedly Cranston and Warwick will come in last, Laffey's strong areas.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 09:04:03 PM Supposedly Cranston and Warwick will come in last, Laffey's strong areas. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:04:20 PM Supposedly Cranston and Warwick will come in last, Laffey's strong areas. Wasn't Chafee the mayor of Warwick? If so, Laffey's cooked. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:05:16 PM If Chafee wins by 51%-49%, we're going to have to put out a missing person alert for Pat Toomey.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 09:05:43 PM These results do not necessarily mean Laffey has already lost. It depends on which precincts haven't reported yet. Laffey could still win this.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 09:05:58 PM From Sam Spade's last numbers Laffey would have to win the remaining precincts by just over 11 pionts (55.5% to 44.5%) in order to catch up.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: sethm0 on September 12, 2006, 09:06:08 PM Cranston is Laffey's home base, Warwick is Chafee's.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:06:44 PM It's OVER. Cranston already 1/5 in and Chafee's strongholds still aren't all in.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 09:07:06 PM Cranston is Laffey's home base, Warwick is Chafee's. what are the population of those cities? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:08:25 PM Cranston: 80k
Warwick: 85k Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: TheresNoMoney on September 12, 2006, 09:11:36 PM It's almost time to call this race.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 12, 2006, 09:13:00 PM Stupid RI site can't handle bandwith
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WalterMitty on September 12, 2006, 09:13:36 PM a great day!
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 09:13:55 PM From http://wpri.conversent.net/election.html again:
US Senate Republican 67% of 515 Reporting LINCOLN CHAFEE 22,757 53% STEPHEN LAFFEY 19,928 47% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 09:15:38 PM You should thank the NRSC for this. Turnout is nearly 20,000 votes higher for this primary than any previous Republican primary in RI, and I have no doubt who helped Chafee's campaign increase the turnout by so much, because Chafee's campaign was really looking incompetant (Lieberman-style) earlier in this primary. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:16:12 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 09:16:50 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:17:07 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 12, 2006, 09:17:30 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54%
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:18:16 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse I am not saying that that will make November 7th great. I am just showing Walter that his "great day" will not reoccur. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 09:19:02 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:19:11 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse I am not saying that that will make November 7th great. I am just showing Walter that his "great day" will not reoccur. This primary just cost the DSCC $5 million. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 09:20:01 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:20:23 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse I am not saying that that will make November 7th great. I am just showing Walter that his "great day" will not reoccur. This primary just cost the DSCC $5 million. And you'll be rewarded with a pickup. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:20:53 PM 78% reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 26,307 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 22,719 46% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Kevinstat on September 12, 2006, 09:20:58 PM US Senate
Republican 73% of 515 Reporting LINCOLN CHAFEE 24,953 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 21,576 46% http://wpri.conversent.net/election.html Chafee might win this thing by double digits. It's definitely over now. Laffey would have to get 59.8% of the vote in the remaining precincts to catch up, and that ain't happening. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:21:14 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported Mayor Warwick Democrat 0% of 53 Reporting Warwick's not in yet. This race is OVER. I seriously underestimated the RNC's 72 hour taskforce. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WalterMitty on September 12, 2006, 09:21:41 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse I am not saying that that will make November 7th great. I am just showing Walter that his "great day" will not reoccur. This primary just cost the DSCC $5 million. And you'll be rewarded with a pickup. .....meanwhile us 'rinos' support your boy santorum. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Flying Dog on September 12, 2006, 09:21:50 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. then it is over...now to maryland Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:22:14 PM November 7, 2006 - Senator-elect Whitehouse I am not saying that that will make November 7th great. I am just showing Walter that his "great day" will not reoccur. This primary just cost the DSCC $5 million. And you'll be rewarded with a pickup. And it'll cost us a pickup in Tennessee or Missouri. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:23:07 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. then it is over...now to maryland Warwick's coming last. I thought Laffey had "hit all his targets." Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:23:30 PM .....meanwhile us 'rinos' support your boy santorum. I admire you for that, Walter, but you are not like most others. Many RINOs don't give a damn or want Santorum to go down. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 09:24:05 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. then it is over...now to maryland Warwick's coming last. I thought Laffey had "hit all his targets." Sort of sounds like Kerry in 2004. But not to bring up bad memories. :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: ATFFL on September 12, 2006, 09:24:55 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. then it is over...now to maryland Warwick's coming last. I thought Laffey had "hit all his targets." Sort of sounds like Kerry in 2004. But not to bring up bad memories. :) Or good, as the case may be. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: True Democrat on September 12, 2006, 09:25:33 PM GO CHAFEE!
Finally the Republicans are getting their act together. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:26:49 PM 80% reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 27,155 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 23,163 46% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:27:27 PM 73% in; Chaffee is back on 54% Warwick has probably reported As far as I can tell, nothing is in from Warwick. then it is over...now to maryland Warwick's coming last. I thought Laffey had "hit all his targets." Sort of sounds like Kerry in 2004. But not to bring up bad memories. :) If you wanted to be mean, you should have brought up Gore in 2000. That one really stung. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Joel the Attention Whore on September 12, 2006, 09:28:22 PM I predicted a 53-47 Chafee victory. I will count that as being nearly accurate. Now, let's see if I'm accurate in Maryland.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:30:17 PM I predicted a 53-47 Chafee victory. I will count that as being nearly accurate. Now, let's see if I'm accurate in Maryland. Wow. Those are some good prognosticating skills. :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: HardRCafé on September 12, 2006, 09:31:22 PM You should thank the NRSC for this. Turnout is nearly 20,000 votes higher for this primary than any previous Republican primary in RI, and I have no doubt who helped Chafee's campaign increase the turnout by so much, because Chafee's campaign was really looking incompetant (Lieberman-style) earlier in this primary. And the rest of his career. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: J. J. on September 12, 2006, 09:33:59 PM If looks like a Chafee win by a health margin. I'm predicting Chafee wins re-election.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WalterMitty on September 12, 2006, 09:34:31 PM You should thank the NRSC for this. Turnout is nearly 20,000 votes higher for this primary than any previous Republican primary in RI, and I have no doubt who helped Chafee's campaign increase the turnout by so much, because Chafee's campaign was really looking incompetant (Lieberman-style) earlier in this primary. And the rest of his career. whitehouse appreciates your support! Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 09:34:42 PM If looks like a Chafee win by a health margin. I'm predicting Chafee wins re-election. Whitehouse wins by 2%. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:37:01 PM 84% reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 27,899 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 23,899 46% 4001 votes appearing anywhere? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Joel the Attention Whore on September 12, 2006, 09:40:41 PM 84% reporting LINCOLN CHAFEE 27,899 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 23,899 46% 4001 votes appearing anywhere? Expect it to tighten very slightly as Cranston comes in. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:42:04 PM 90% reporting
LINCOLN CHAFEE 29,433 54% STEPHEN LAFFEY 25,353 46% Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 09:42:41 PM Game over in RI.
RI GOP chooses electoral success over ideology. Great work. Gives me hope we will hold the Senate. (my prediction was Chafee 53% Laffey 47%) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Sam Spade on September 12, 2006, 09:48:16 PM It's over.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:49:26 PM It seems like it was over once the polls closed. I don't think Laffey ever passed 48% tonight. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: HardRCafé on September 12, 2006, 09:49:50 PM Expect it to tighten very slightly as Cranston comes in. How will we know? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Joe Republic on September 12, 2006, 09:51:49 PM The results haven't really budged much from 54-46 since only 10% of precincts were in.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:52:02 PM Rasmussen 08/23 - 08/23 500 LV 42 44 6 Whitehouse +2.0 Fleming 08/16 - 08/21 401 RV 43 42 15 Chafee +1.0 Clearly, an insurmountable lead. I never said it was insurmountable. I just feel that Whitehouse is too strong while Chafee is a pushover. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: J. J. on September 12, 2006, 09:52:14 PM Game over in RI. RI GOP chooses electoral success over ideology. Great work. Gives me hope we will hold the Senate. (my prediction was Chafee 53% Laffey 47%) That's how Spector got re-elected (and got my vote). Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 09:56:52 PM Now Chafee and Santorum will be able to continue their work together in the new Senate in Jan/07.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 09:58:34 PM Now Chafee and Santorum will be able to continue their work together in the new Senate in Jan/07. I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: ?????????? on September 12, 2006, 09:59:20 PM That's how Spector got re-elected (and got my vote). You got to be kidding, right? () Anyways back to the topic. Congrats Chafee. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on September 12, 2006, 10:00:07 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee!
I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 10:00:21 PM Now Chafee and Santorum will be able to continue their work together in the new Senate in Jan/07. I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. Will it make you happy that they'll both be out of work in Jan/07? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Jake on September 12, 2006, 10:09:06 PM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 10:10:01 PM The heir to the legendary Rhode Island Chafee name rides to victory in November.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 10:11:23 PM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 10:11:38 PM Now Chafee and Santorum will be able to continue their work together in the new Senate in Jan/07. Yeh....because I bet they agree on a lot of things.... Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 10:13:23 PM Now Chafee and Santorum will be able to continue their work together in the new Senate in Jan/07. Yeh....because I bet they agree on a lot of things.... Hey, if Orrin Hatch and Ted Kennedy can work together on legislation, and get it through the Senate, and they have, then anyone can. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 10:22:00 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee! I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) And you have every right to be proud. We came through in the crunch, never mind the predominant party ideology, which I support by the way, but we came through in the name of political expediency and common sense, because we want to keep this RI Senate seat in GOP hands. Linc Chafee, the man for the times. Now on to victory in November!!!!!! Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 10:23:55 PM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. I think he was making a joke about how Santorum's current (or was it his past?) Chief of Staff is gay. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 10:24:48 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee! I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) And you have every right to be proud. We came through in the crunch, never mind the predominant party ideology, which I support by the way, but we came through in the name of political expediency and common sense, because we want to keep this RI Senate seat in GOP hands. Linc Chafee, the man for the times. Now on to victory in November!!!!!! Linc Chafee's going to lose -- but so will McCaskill and Webb. This race is going to cost the DSCC a lot of cash and manpower. This is the end of Jim Webb. Webb can't afford to run a TV campaign and the DSCC can't afford to help him. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 10:27:52 PM Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) No, I think they are a little more interested in being Republicans out there. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 10:30:01 PM Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) No, I think they are a little more interested in being Republicans out there. Mark my words: Graf will win this race. If you think the bllodbath between the Club for Growth and the NRSC was bad, check out the battle between the NRCC and the 8th's Republican establishment. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 10:31:07 PM Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) No, I think they are a little more interested in being Republicans out there. Mark my words: Graf will win this race. Read my lips: I agree. ;) Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 10:41:36 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee! I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) And you have every right to be proud. We came through in the crunch, never mind the predominant party ideology, which I support by the way, but we came through in the name of political expediency and common sense, because we want to keep this RI Senate seat in GOP hands. Linc Chafee, the man for the times. Now on to victory in November!!!!!! Linc Chafee's going to lose -- but so will McCaskill and Webb. This race is going to cost the DSCC a lot of cash and manpower. This is the end of Jim Webb. Webb can't afford to run a TV campaign and the DSCC can't afford to help him. This is not at all true. Webb has raised over $2 million since the primary and has major fundraisers coming up. One will be hosted by Stephen King and John Grisham. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine are also both slated to do fundraising for him. Bill Clinton has agreed to a major fundraiser which will probably be in early October. His fundraising has accelerated since the "macaca" incident. Webb dosen't need to match Allen dollar-for-dollar to win. He just needs to stay competitive in funds, and it looks like he is going to that at the very least. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Lincoln Republican on September 12, 2006, 10:44:21 PM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. I think he was making a joke about how Santorum's current (or was it his past?) Chief of Staff is gay. Oh. I knew it must be some kind of joke, though I had no idea about what specifically. Good for Santorum, though, for hiring a Chief of Staff who is gay. It just shows that Santorum has respect for all people, straight or gay. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 12, 2006, 10:46:13 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee! I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) And you have every right to be proud. We came through in the crunch, never mind the predominant party ideology, which I support by the way, but we came through in the name of political expediency and common sense, because we want to keep this RI Senate seat in GOP hands. Linc Chafee, the man for the times. Now on to victory in November!!!!!! Linc Chafee's going to lose -- but so will McCaskill and Webb. This race is going to cost the DSCC a lot of cash and manpower. This is the end of Jim Webb. Webb can't afford to run a TV campaign and the DSCC can't afford to help him. This is not at all true. Webb has raised over $2 million since the primary and has major fundraisers coming up. One will be hosted by Stephen King and John Grisham. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine are also both slated to do fundraising for him. Bill Clinton has agreed to a major fundraiser which will probably be in early October. His fundraising has accelerated since the "macaca" incident. Webb dosen't need to match Allen dollar-for-dollar to win. He just needs to stay competitive in funds, and it looks like he is going to that at the very least. I'm just saying it's going to hurt him because there will be less in the way of national funding. McCaskill will probably suffer more than Webb. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 10:55:20 PM Chafee! Chafee! Chafee! I am so friggin proud of my party tonight! Lets hope the good news holds sweeps over AZ-8 too :) And you have every right to be proud. We came through in the crunch, never mind the predominant party ideology, which I support by the way, but we came through in the name of political expediency and common sense, because we want to keep this RI Senate seat in GOP hands. Linc Chafee, the man for the times. Now on to victory in November!!!!!! Linc Chafee's going to lose -- but so will McCaskill and Webb. This race is going to cost the DSCC a lot of cash and manpower. This is the end of Jim Webb. Webb can't afford to run a TV campaign and the DSCC can't afford to help him. This is not at all true. Webb has raised over $2 million since the primary and has major fundraisers coming up. One will be hosted by Stephen King and John Grisham. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine are also both slated to do fundraising for him. Bill Clinton has agreed to a major fundraiser which will probably be in early October. His fundraising has accelerated since the "macaca" incident. Webb dosen't need to match Allen dollar-for-dollar to win. He just needs to stay competitive in funds, and it looks like he is going to that at the very least. I'm just saying it's going to hurt him because there will be less in the way of national funding. McCaskill will probably suffer more than Webb. Well DUH but that dosen't mean Webb is finished. Also Whitehouse starts out with a large COH advantage over Chaffee. And everyone seems to be overlooking the most obvious - Lincoln Chaffee, an incumbent, won with barely 54% of the vote. That is truly terrible for an incumbent. He needs the Laffey voters to turn out for him in order to win and I see no gaurantee that he will get them. They probably don't care who wins between Whitehouse and Chaffee. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Jacobtm on September 12, 2006, 10:55:54 PM This morning I took a piece of paper, stuck it to my door and wrote:
Steve Laffey: 47 Lincoln Chaffe: 52 I assumed there'd be some random candidate to suck up that 1%, but regardless, I'm pretty proud of that guess. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 12, 2006, 10:58:26 PM Anyone know of a GOOD site to get an AZ-08 update? This azcongresswatch site is pathetic.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: GOP = Terrorists on September 12, 2006, 11:09:43 PM You know I was going to give this seat to the Dems but if Keystone Phil thinks that it is going Dem it probably isnt. His predictions are SOOOOO bad that I probably need to change my mind about this race if that is the way he is calling it.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 12, 2006, 11:12:03 PM You know I was going to give this seat to the Dems but if Keystone Phil thinks that it is going Dem it probably isnt. His predictions are SOOOOO bad that I probably need to change my mind about this race if that is the way he is calling it. Yeah, my predictions for tonight have been especially poor: Chafee win in RI, Cardin win in MD (looks like it will happen) and Graf win in AZ (looks like that will happen, too). I've made some bad predictions but I don't see how they can be that bad. Feel free to enlighten me. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 13, 2006, 12:09:27 AM () I'm starting to feel sorry for the Laffey. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Deano963 on September 13, 2006, 12:14:53 AM () I'm starting to feel sorry for the Laffey. Awwwwwwwwwww Ya gotta admire the guy knowing he fought so hard to win knowing full well that he would have been destroyed in the general. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Smash255 on September 13, 2006, 01:57:32 AM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. I think he was making a joke about how Santorum's current (or was it his past?) Chief of Staff is gay. Oh. I knew it must be some kind of joke, though I had no idea about what specifically. Good for Santorum, though, for hiring a Chief of Staff who is gay. It just shows that Santorum has respect for all people, straight or gay. Well he didn't hire him knowing he was gay. He kept him on his staff after he came out, but its not as Santorum knowingly hired someone who was gay Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Tender Branson on September 13, 2006, 02:42:50 AM Hey, Chafee won ! But barely. I thought Laffey will win this closely , but i didn´t consider that RI is more moderate. I just averaged the recent polls ;) But i were right on Cardin at least.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: riceowl on September 13, 2006, 02:52:42 AM Yay.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Rob on September 13, 2006, 05:04:24 AM () I'm starting to feel sorry for the Laffey. He's a good guy, and he fought hard. The odds were just stacked against him. But he got 46 percent of the vote against an incumbent Senator in the GOP primary, with the national party openly attacking him. That's not too shabby. This means that Whitehouse will have to exert some effort in the general. He wins anyway by four to six points. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: nlm on September 13, 2006, 05:14:25 AM Here's what the 2000 Senate primary looked like in RI
RI STATEWIDE PRIMARY September 12, 2000 REPUBLICAN PRIMARY SENATOR IN CONGRESS Lincoln D CHAFEE 2,180 41 2,221 RI STATEWIDE PRIMARY September 12, 2000 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY SENATOR IN CONGRESS Richard A LICHT 37,172 1,109 38,281 Robert A WEYGAND 50,379 1,390 51,769 Compare that to last night SENATOR IN CONGRESS Candidate Party Polling Place Mail Ballots Total Votes Sheldon WHITEHOUSE Democrat 65,772 2,079 67,851 - 81.60% Christopher F. YOUNG Democrat 8,479 200 8,679 - 10.44% Carl L. SHEELER Democrat 6,414 210 6,624 - 7.97% Candidate Party Polling Place Mail Ballots Total Votes Lincoln D. CHAFEE Republican 33,545 862 34,407 - 54.22% Stephen P. LAFFEY Republican 28,554 498 29,052 - 45.78% And then remember that Chafee beat Weygand 222,588 to 161,023. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: ?????????? on September 13, 2006, 06:13:16 AM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. I think he was making a joke about how Santorum's current (or was it his past?) Chief of Staff is gay. Oh. I knew it must be some kind of joke, though I had no idea about what specifically. Good for Santorum, though, for hiring a Chief of Staff who is gay. It just shows that Santorum has respect for all people, straight or gay. Well he didn't hire him knowing he was gay. He kept him on his staff after he came out, but its not as Santorum knowingly hired someone who was gay Why does it matter whether he was gay or not? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Virginian87 on September 13, 2006, 10:25:30 AM I don't think Santorum is looking for a new Chief of Staff. I'm sure he'll continue to get them from San Francisco. No, you must be thinking of Barney Frank, the Democrat. I think he was making a joke about how Santorum's current (or was it his past?) Chief of Staff is gay. Oh. I knew it must be some kind of joke, though I had no idea about what specifically. Good for Santorum, though, for hiring a Chief of Staff who is gay. It just shows that Santorum has respect for all people, straight or gay. Well he didn't hire him knowing he was gay. He kept him on his staff after he came out, but its not as Santorum knowingly hired someone who was gay Why does it matter whether he was gay or not? It doesn't. But some people here find it rather humorous that Santorum would have a gay aide when he has made some statements in the past that many would consider homophobic. Back to the race: While I wouldn't mind seeing Whitehouse win, I am not predicting a Democratic blowout here at the moment. Thanks to the great influence the Chafee family has had in Rhode Island, I don't think that Rhode Islanders will easily cast him aside. In other words, this is still going to be a close race. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Nym90 on September 13, 2006, 11:01:53 AM It's good for the country overall that Chafee won this race; it makes the Senate contest in November more competitive and it is always good to see that the GOP still has a moderate/liberal streak left in them. From a purely political standpoint I would have preferred a Whitehouse win (Chafee, no matter how moderate, is still helping to enhance the GOP agenda overall by helping give the GOP a majority in the Senate), but the polarization of the parties isn't healthy for the country in the long term.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 13, 2006, 11:14:03 AM In the end Langevin won with about 61% of the vote :)
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: DownWithTheLeft on September 13, 2006, 02:59:17 PM :(
That's all I can say, at least Randy Graf won Laffey was an idiot, but at least he didn't hate the Republican party Overall, good for Republicans in general b/c moderates win elections Bad for the base because we can't have the congress we want :( Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: WMS on September 13, 2006, 03:48:25 PM Well, score one for the center. ;) Whitehouse isn't bad either.
Actually, score two if you count Langevin (take that, NARAL-ites!). :D I'll take what good news I can out of this dreadful electoral year... Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 14, 2006, 12:00:05 AM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: MarkWarner08 on September 14, 2006, 12:02:48 AM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I never thought I would agree so much with Keystone Phil. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: memphis on September 14, 2006, 12:58:05 PM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: adam on September 14, 2006, 01:00:55 PM Congrats to Lincoln Chafee...unfortunately, you are going to lose. You were a great senator...for a Republican at least.
Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 14, 2006, 04:16:38 PM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside. Being respectful of his opponent makes him a good man. Chafee would have probably whined, bashed Laffey, complained about the GOP and said that he's not voting for Laffey. Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: © tweed on September 14, 2006, 05:38:09 PM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside. Being respectful of his opponent makes him a good man. Chafee would have probably whined, bashed Laffey, complained about the GOP and said that he's not voting for Laffey. So I take it you dislike the actions taken by Joseph Lieberman in the aftermath of his Aug. 8 primary loss? Title: Re: Rhode Island Senate Primary official thread Post by: Keystone Phil on September 14, 2006, 08:04:54 PM I am watching Laffey's concession speech on C-SPAN.org and it is pretty sad. He starts off by thanking his mom and saying that he didn't know how he'd tell his dad about the loss in the morning (his dad suffers from Alzheimer's). That was depressing. Anyway, the main point of this is how Laffey came right out and said that he'd be backing Chafee. How many here think Chafee would have done the same thing if the situation was flipped? I honestly don't think he would. Stephen Laffey is a good man. I don't think I can say the same for Linc and that's after putting my ideological differences aside. Being respectful of his opponent makes him a good man. Chafee would have probably whined, bashed Laffey, complained about the GOP and said that he's not voting for Laffey. So I take it you dislike the actions taken by Joseph Lieberman in the aftermath of his Aug. 8 primary loss? I can see why people would be angry but it is a bit different. Lieberman at least made it known to Dems that he'd run as an Independent whereas Chafee would have never stated those intentions before his party's vote. |