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Title: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 01:45:28 PM
OK, this is just for fun and if you don't want to participate, feel free not to. The idea is to state what candidate you would have voted for in past elections, with the knowledge you had at the time (so you can't not vote for Nixon in 1972 b/c of Watergate, Carter in 1976 b/c of the hostages, etc). I don't know how far we could or should go, but I will start off at 1948:

1948: Truman, I think

1952: Eisenhower, probably

1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy

1964: Hard one, Goldwater's opposition to civil rights would probably have given my vote to LBJ

1968: Humphrey

1972: Nixon, I think.

1976: Carter

1980: Reagan

1984: Reagan

1988: Bush, I think

1992: Clinton, I think, but it would've been a hard one.

1996: Clinton

2000: Bush, I think

That makes it 7-7 for me then. Feel free to join in! :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dave from Michigan on January 25, 2004, 02:00:10 PM

In every election since 1948 I would have voted for the Republican candidate.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 02:04:23 PM
Lets see:

1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Hass (Socialist Labor)
1968: Gregory (Peace+Freedom)
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: John Anderson (National Union Party)
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Perot (Independent)
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

So...9 Dem, 1 Republican, 4 Third Party.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 25, 2004, 02:12:14 PM
1900: Bryan
1904: Debs
1908: Bryan
1912: Debs
1916: Wilson
1920: Debs
1924: Davis
1928: Thomas
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Stevenson
1960: Kennedy
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: Abstain/McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

1928 changed to Thomas on reflection
1904 changed to Debs on reflection


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 02:22:07 PM
Lets go early like Al did...

1900: McKinley
1904: TR
1908: Taft
1912: TR (Progressive)
1916: Wilson
1920: Debs (Socialist)
1924: LaFollette (Progressive)
1928: Thomas (Socialist)
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: opebo on January 25, 2004, 02:48:10 PM
The answer to this question seems pretty obvious - I would've voted for the Republican in any election, at any time, for president or whatever office.  I don't really 'get' ticket splitting.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 02:51:32 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 03:59:29 PM
1824: Jackson
1828: Jackson
1832: Jackson
1836: Van Buren
1840: Abstain
1844: Clay
1848: Cass
1852: Pierce
1856: Buchanan (useless... with hindsight)
1860: Douglas or Bell
1864: McClellan
1868: Seymour
1872: Greeley
1876: Tilden
1880: Hancock
1884: Cleveland
1888: Cleveland/Streeter (not on ballot in all states)
1892: Cleveland or Weaver
1896: Bryan




Wow, you're taking this a long way...if you had been an elector, then who would you have voted for back in pre-democratic days? :)

Why would you have supported the Democrats during the civil-war-era?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 25, 2004, 04:05:34 PM
I'll do the pre-democratic elections tomorrow :)

I would have supported the Democrats during the Civil War for several different reasons.
The main one is that I would have blamed Lincoln for starting it...


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:10:24 PM
I'll do the pre-democratic elections tomorrow :)

I would have supported the Democrats during the Civil War for several different reasons.
The main one is that I would have blamed Lincoln for starting it...

That might well be true, but they still were a bunch of Southern aristocrats keeping slaves!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 04:28:50 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:36:06 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 04:37:50 PM
Supersoulty may have mixed up the years there.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:39:16 PM
Supersoulty may have mixed up the years there.

But he wrote Smith, he must know that FDR ran in 1932, right?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 04:42:27 PM
Supersoulty may have mixed up the years there.

But he wrote Smith, he must know that FDR ran in 1932, right?
Who knows.  He's got some explanin' to do.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:44:43 PM
Supersoulty may have mixed up the years there.

But he wrote Smith, he must know that FDR ran in 1932, right?
Who knows.  He's got some explanin' to do.

I wonder what this will do to his electability... ;)

Supersoulty, where are you? Come here and explain this mess! :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 04:46:52 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:48:32 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 04:49:50 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 04:50:56 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 04:58:25 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 05:01:36 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 25, 2004, 05:06:49 PM
1824: Jackson
1828: Jackson
1832: Jackson
1836: Van Buren
1840: Van Buren
1844: Polk
1848: Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852: Hale (Free Soil)
1856: Fremont)
1860: Douglas
1864: McClellan
1868: Grant
1872: Grant
1876: Tilden
1880: Garfield
1884: Cleveland
1888: Cleveland
1892: Weaver
1896: McKinley


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 05:09:47 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 05:17:36 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.

Not really, since that was part of the point, stimulating the economy through public projects. What would've happened if these people had been unemployed?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 25, 2004, 05:22:31 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.

Not really, since that was part of the point, stimulating the economy through public projects. What would've happened if these people had been unemployed?

What would have happened if FDR hadn'd regulated the CRAP out of the economy?  The fact is that in 1938, we were no closer to acctually getting out of the Depression.  WWII is what pulled the country out of Depression, not the New Deal.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 25, 2004, 05:26:22 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: TR
1908: Taft (the most under-rated president in history in my oppinion)
1912: TR
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
I don't get why you would have voted against FDR four times, expecially when your other choice was Hoover, the worst president in history, hands down.

The weird thing is, the only time Supersoulty would've voted Democrat is 1928, Hoover's first election, when no one else did! (Hoover thrashed Smith 58-40) Why would someone vote against Hoover in 1928, but for him in 1932?

Smith's views are closer to my own than Hoover's, but FDR is much farther away from me than Hoover.  Remember that Smith repudiated the Democratic Party in 1936, even though he supported FDR over Hoover at first.

OK, is makes a weird kind of sense...someone named Smith is the only Democrat that you would ever have voted for? It's still hard to accept...

I would have voted for Truman over Dewey.

Oh, sorry, missed that. So you're really anti-FDR, huh?

How do you think the American economy would have fared under Hoover?

Don't get me wrong, Hoover made a lot of mistakes, but the Depression wasn't his fault, it would have happened no matter who was president.  The events that set the Depression in motion started at the end of WWI.  An often ignored fact is that when Hoover left office, the economy was recovering and unemployment was down.  It kept getting lower during the first two years of the FDR administration (still Hoover's economy) and then spiked again in the third and fourth years of FDR's administration (FDR's economy).  So for ALL that Hoover was doing wrong, he must have done SOMETHING right.

I don't have immediate access to statistics from that time, but that sounds dubious. I do know that the stock market did not recover until the 50s. I believe that Keynesian policies were necessary to battle the depression, and I don't think Hoover would've done that, hence it would have been worse than it would otherwise have been.

To be fair I should point out that the numbers I am using are for private sector employment.  The acctual number of those employed did go up during MOST of the FDR administration, but ALL of the net gain in jobs can be attributed to government works projects, which is "artificial" when considering acctual economic impact.

Not really, since that was part of the point, stimulating the economy through public projects. What would've happened if these people had been unemployed?

What would have happened if FDR hadn'd regulated the CRAP out of the economy?  The fact is that in 1938, we were no closer to acctually getting out of the Depression.  WWII is what pulled the country out of Depression, not the New Deal.

I don't think that's a universally held view, but I don't know enough about these things to be sure. I will ask my father, he's an economist.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on January 25, 2004, 06:39:11 PM
1900: McKinley
1904: T Roosevelt
1908: Bryan
1912: T Roosevelt
1916: Wilson
1920: Debs
1924: John Davis
1928: Smith
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Eisenhower
1960: JFK
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Reagan
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: afleitch on January 25, 2004, 09:04:06 PM
I can only really look back to 1932 on this one

1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Reagan
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

And like Marge Simpson I would have voted for Carter...twice :) I'm British, so I wouldn't be allowed to vote!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 26, 2004, 05:33:16 AM
I'll do the pre-democratic elections tomorrow :)

I would have supported the Democrats during the Civil War for several different reasons.
The main one is that I would have blamed Lincoln for starting it...

That might well be true, but they still were a bunch of Southern aristocrats keeping slaves!

The Northern Democrat's were Southern Aristocrat's???


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 26, 2004, 05:41:32 AM
I've just realized that I'm the only person to have voted for Bryan all 3 times...
What have you all got against him?
C'mon what's wrong with the "Cross of Gold" speech?

And you can't justify it with the Scopes trial. That came later.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 26, 2004, 05:48:14 AM
If I was an Elector...

1789: Washington
1792: Jefferson
1796: Jefferson
1800: Jefferson
1804: Jefferson
1808: Madison
1812: Madison
1816: Monroe
1820: Monroe


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: minionofmidas on January 26, 2004, 07:46:25 AM
The Depression was ended by WW II. That America survived it that long is probably due to the New Deal. The Economy was not yet recovering the day FDR took office. In fact it was at its lowest point pretty exactly then. There hadn't been a single bank open in the nation for a week. The part about the "Roosevelt Recession" (Republican Spin Term of the time) in 37/38 is totally correct though.

Here's my votes - thank god I'm not allowed to vote in America!

1789 Washington (because everybody else did)
1792 Washington
1796 Jefferson
1800 Jefferson (with hindsight of even 20 years, these would be Adams. But back then I probably wouldn't have cared about slavery)
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe or King? Tough one
1820 abstain
1824 Jackson or Clay. Probably Clay
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Van Buren
1840 Van Buren
1844 Probably Free Soil
1848 Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852 not sure
1856 Fremont
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Grant
1872 Greeley or some third party (Grant was just too corrupt)
1876 Hayes
1880 Greenback-Labor, if on the ballot
1884 Greenback-Labor
1888 Cleveland
1892 Populist
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 Debs
1908 Debs or Bryan. Depends on which state I'm in
1912 Debs
1916 Likely Socialist (what's that Candidate called?)
1920 Debs
1924 LaFollette
1928 Probably Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Likely Wallace but might be Truman
1952 probably abstain or far-out left wing
1956 ditto
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey, if I had forgiven him for Chicago. Otherwise fringe candidate
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter or possibly McCarthy
1980 Carter
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis or fringe candidate
1992 Clinton
1996 Nader
2000 very probably Nader. Depends on the state though


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 26, 2004, 08:17:13 AM
Someone else would vote for Bryan! :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2004, 10:26:55 AM
I'll do the pre-democratic elections tomorrow :)

I would have supported the Democrats during the Civil War for several different reasons.
The main one is that I would have blamed Lincoln for starting it...

That might well be true, but they still were a bunch of Southern aristocrats keeping slaves!

The Northern Democrat's were Southern Aristocrat's???

Who said the Northern Democrats? But I get what you mean, what were the policies of the Northern Democrats on "Civil War issues" then?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 26, 2004, 11:28:35 AM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2004, 11:46:03 AM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.

Well, who wouldn't be opposed to George "burn 'em all" Sherman? :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: opebo on January 26, 2004, 01:11:15 PM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.

Well, who wouldn't be opposed to George "burn 'em all" Sherman? :)

Shermans win wars.  He's a type of general that is necessary - like Curtis LeMay in WWII and the cold war.  Doesn't make a popular politician after retirement though.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.

Well, who wouldn't be opposed to George "burn 'em all" Sherman? :)

Shermans win wars.  He's a type of general that is necessary - like Curtis LeMay in WWII and the cold war.  Doesn't make a popular politician after retirement though.

I don't know if they're really that necessary. Curtis LeMay was Wallace's insane running mate in 1968, wasn't he?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: opebo on January 26, 2004, 01:56:45 PM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.

Well, who wouldn't be opposed to George "burn 'em all" Sherman? :)

Shermans win wars.  He's a type of general that is necessary - like Curtis LeMay in WWII and the cold war.  Doesn't make a popular politician after retirement though.

I don't know if they're really that necessary. Curtis LeMay was Wallace's insane running mate in 1968, wasn't he?

Yes!  I would have voted for him anytime, but of course most people would not.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2004, 02:09:58 PM
They supported the war but thought that Lincoln was mismanaging it.
And opposed the excesses of Sherman et al.

Well, who wouldn't be opposed to George "burn 'em all" Sherman? :)

Shermans win wars.  He's a type of general that is necessary - like Curtis LeMay in WWII and the cold war.  Doesn't make a popular politician after retirement though.

I don't know if they're really that necessary. Curtis LeMay was Wallace's insane running mate in 1968, wasn't he?

Yes!  I would have voted for him anytime, but of course most people would not.

Are you talking about LeMay or Wallace? Wasn't it LeMay who claimed that nuclear testing wasn't dangerous?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: opebo on January 26, 2004, 02:17:04 PM
I meant LeMay.  I don't know about his claims about nuclear testing, but he was quite a hawk, and I like that.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 26, 2004, 03:41:41 PM
Nice to see Trondheim would have voted against Reagan twice...that makes two of us!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2004, 03:46:13 PM
Nice to see Trondheim would have voted against Reagan twice...that makes two of us!

Well, he seems to be way to the left, since he wouldn't vote for the Democratic candidate in lots of elections.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on January 26, 2004, 03:57:34 PM
Nice to see Trondheim would have voted against Reagan twice...that makes two of us!

To be honest, the only reason I "voted" Reagan in 1980 was for diversity's sake... otherwise, I would've voted for every Democratic candidate since 1960, and frankly that would have just been plain dull.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 26, 2004, 04:08:46 PM
Nice to see Trondheim would have voted against Reagan twice...that makes two of us!

To be honest, the only reason I "voted" Reagan in 1980 was for diversity's sake... otherwise, I would've voted for every Democratic candidate since 1960, and frankly that would have just been plain dull.
Well, you still voted for Reagan.  Shame on you. :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: zorkpolitics on January 26, 2004, 10:43:33 PM
1948: Truman

1952: Eisenhower

1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy

1964: LBJ

1968: Humphrey

The following are my actual Presidential votes:
1972: McGovern

1976: Carter

1980: Anderson

1984: Reagan

1988: Bush

1992: Perot (but almost Clinton)

1996: Dole

2000: Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on January 26, 2004, 11:08:27 PM
1792: Jefferson

1796: Jefferson

1800: Jefferson

1804: Jefferson

1808: Madison

1812: Madison

1816: Monroe

1820: Monroe

1824: Clay

1828: Jackson

1832: Clay

1836: Harrison

1840: Harrison

1844: Clay (although I am related to Polk!)

1848: Taylor

1852: Hale

1856: Scott

1860: Bell

1864: My state did not cast an electoral vote :)

1868: Grant

1872: Grant

1876: Hayes

1880: Garfield

1884: Blaine

1888: Harrison

1892: Harrison

1896: McKinley

1900: McKinley

1904: Roosevelt

1908: Taft

1912: Roosevelt

1916: Hughes

1920: Harding

1924: Coolidge

1928: Hoover

1932: Hoover

1936: Landon

1940: Wilkie

1944: Dewey

1948: Dewey

1952: Eisenhower

1956: Eisenhower

1960: Nixon

1964: Goldwater

1968: Nixon

1972: Nixon

1976: Ford

1980: Reagan, but Anderson might have been tempting

1984: Reagan

1988: Bush

1992: Bush, but Perot would have been tempting

1996: Dole

2000: Bush (actual vote)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 27, 2004, 04:28:17 AM

Good for you :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: MarkDel on January 27, 2004, 05:14:04 AM
I guess this is as good a thread as any to make my first post. Here goes with my voting preferences in the 20th Century.

1900: McKinley
1904: T. Roosevelt
1908: Taft
1912: T. Roosevelt
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover
1932: Hoover
1936: F.D.R.
1940: F.D.R.
1944: F.D.R.
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush I
1992: Bush I
1996: Dole
2000: Bush II


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: minionofmidas on January 27, 2004, 05:34:15 AM
Nice to see Trondheim would have voted against Reagan twice...that makes two of us!

Well, he seems to be way to the left, since he wouldn't vote for the Democratic candidate in lots of elections.

Who else but a bloody leftie would have voted against Reagan in 1984?
I'm having second thoughts about one of my votes btw. Was Eisenhower sending the army to ensure two black kids could go to school in Little Rock before his reelection? If so I'd probably have voted for him.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: migrendel on January 27, 2004, 03:15:51 PM
1932: Norman Thomas
1936: Norman Thomas
1940: Franklin Roosevelt
1944: Franklin Roosevelt
1948: Henry Wallace
1952: Adlai Stevenson
1956: Adlai Stevenson
1960: John F. Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: Hubert Humphrey; McCarthy in primary
1972: George McGovern
1976: Jimmy Carter; Bayh, Udall, or Shriver in primary
1980: John Anderson
1984: Walter Mondale
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Bill Clinton; Brown in primary
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Al Gore; Bradley in primary


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: E.M.Borjesson on January 27, 2004, 06:38:21 PM
1789 Washington
1792 Washington
1796 Adams
1800 Adams
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Harrison
1840 Harrison
1844 Clay
1848 Cass
1852 Hale (Free soil)
1856 Fremont
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Hayes
1880 Weaver
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Weaver
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 TR
1908 Bryan
1912 Wilson
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Perot
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 27, 2004, 06:44:32 PM
1789 Washington
1792 Washington
1796 Adams
1800 Adams
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Harrison
1840 Harrison
1844 Clay
1848 Cass
1852 Hale (Free soil)
1856 Fremont
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Hayes
1880 Weaver
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Weaver
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 TR
1908 Bryan
1912 Wilson
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Perot
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore

Looks like MiamiU found himself a soulmate... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 27, 2004, 06:45:26 PM
1789 Washington
1792 Washington
1796 Adams
1800 Adams
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Harrison
1840 Harrison
1844 Clay
1848 Cass
1852 Hale (Free soil)
1856 Fremont
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Hayes
1880 Weaver
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Weaver
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 TR
1908 Bryan
1912 Wilson
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Perot
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore

Looks like MiamiU found himself a soulmate... :)

AAAAAAAAARGHH! Posted this too early! Are you from Scandinavia E.M.? It looks a little Icelandish to me... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 28, 2004, 04:00:01 AM
Someone else went for Bryan! Our numbers grow...

Bryan! Bryan! Bryan! ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: minionofmidas on January 28, 2004, 07:12:53 AM

It was 1896, and I was just sixteen
And Altgeld ruled in Springfield Illinois
When there came from the sunset Nebraska's shout of joy
In a coat like a deacon's, in a black stetson hat
He scourged the elephant plutocrats
With barbed wire from the Platte
The scales dipped from their mighty eyes
They saw that summer's noon
a tribe of wonders dancing (?) to a marching tune
O the jayhawks of Kansas
O the longhorns of Texas
(There follows a rather imaginative list of state animals that I can't remember in detail)
Of all the newborn states a-row
Bidding the eagles of the west fly on,
Bidding the eagles of the west fly on

That what you meant?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 28, 2004, 07:28:36 AM
John Anderson 1980
Walter Mondale 1984---

THANKS MR. EJ Borgesson!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 28, 2004, 09:19:49 AM

It was 1896, and I was just sixteen
And Altgeld ruled in Springfield Illinois
When there came from the sunset Nebraska's shout of joy
In a coat like a deacon's, in a black stetson hat
He scourged the elephant plutocrats
With barbed wire from the Platte
The scales dipped from their mighty eyes
They saw that summer's noon
a tribe of wonders dancing (?) to a marching tune
O the jayhawks of Kansas
O the longhorns of Texas
(There follows a rather imaginative list of state animals that I can't remember in detail)
Of all the newborn states a-row
Bidding the eagles of the west fly on,
Bidding the eagles of the west fly on

That what you meant?

Yep ;)
Thing is, Bryan, the Greenbacks and the Free Silver lot, were right about Gold.
Pity it took the Depression to make everyone else realize it...


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on January 28, 2004, 09:39:55 AM
1924 LaFollette
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale
1992 Perot
Against Reagan twice!  Woo!
LaFollete in 1924! Woo!
Perot in '92! Yay!

This guy's awesome.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 28, 2004, 10:14:18 AM
1924 LaFollette
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale
1992 Perot
Against Reagan twice!  Woo!
LaFollete in 1924! Woo!
Perot in '92! Yay!

This guy's awesome.

See? I told you he was a soulmate... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dazzleman on January 28, 2004, 08:40:41 PM
Here are my choices for president since 1932:

1932           Roosevelt
1936           Roosevelt
1940           Roosevelt
1944           Roosevelt
1948           Truman
1952           Eisenhower
1956           Eisenhower
1960           Toss-up (either Kennedy or Nixon)
1964           Johnson
1968           Nixon
1972           Nixon
1976           Ford

Actual votes:
1980           Reagan
1984           Reagan
1988           Bush
1992           Bush (reluctantly)
1996           Dole (reluctantly)
2000           Bush



Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dave from Michigan on January 28, 2004, 10:20:19 PM
Can you really say who you would vote for I personally said I would vote for all the republicans but now we know what happened in history but if you didn't know what would happen but had to go on what the candidate said would you vote that way. Maybe you would it's just a thought. Like know I would say I would not vote for roosevelt in 1932 but if I lost my job and money roosevelt's idea's may have seemed great even though they didn't work well.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Nation on January 29, 2004, 12:22:06 AM
I would have voted for 'ol William Jennings back in '96.


32 - FDR
36 - FDR
40 - FDR
44 - FDR
48 - Truman
52 - Eisenhower
56 - Eisenhower
60 - Kennedy
64 - Johnson
68 - Nixon
72 - McGovern
76 - Carter
80 - Carter
84 - Mondale
88 - Dukakis
92 - Perot
96 - Nader
00 - Nader
04 - Dean (wishful thinking :-)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on January 29, 2004, 02:55:52 PM
Can you really say who you would vote for I personally said I would vote for all the republicans but now we know what happened in history but if you didn't know what would happen but had to go on what the candidate said would you vote that way. Maybe you would it's just a thought. Like know I would say I would not vote for roosevelt in 1932 but if I lost my job and money roosevelt's idea's may have seemed great even though they didn't work well.

Well, the idea of this thread was to say for whom you would have voted for with the knowledge you had at the time. I don't think you should cast the vote out of personal interest, but based on idelogy, b7C it makes more sense to me when it comes to past elections.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: bejkuy on January 29, 2004, 05:48:44 PM
60 Kennedy
64 Goldwater
68 Nixon by a whisker.  (worst GOP prez in modern history)

72 Nixon (no choice)
76 Ford
80 Reagan
84 Reagan
88 Bush
92 Bush
Actual
96 Dole (but not happy about it, waffled more than Clinton)
00 Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: M on February 01, 2004, 03:48:51 AM
My first election will be next year, but with the benefit of hindsight let me, as the jaguar of the Inca king would say, "pass through a blue mist to a diferent time and place".

1948          Truman
1952          Eisenhower
1956          Eisenhower
1960          Kennedy
1964          Goldwater (I like Johnson, but Goldwater was awesome, even if there are serious places I disagree with him.)
1968          Nixon
1972          Scoop Jackson in the primary. Then maybe not vote?
1976          Ford; Reagan in primary
1980          Reagan
1984          Reagan
1988          Bush
1992          Bush
1996          Dole (no good choices this election at all)
2000          Bush
 
My father's actual votes
DAD was born in '50 in Dillon, SC
1968 Nixon (couldn't vote yet, but a major supporter. Still has a 'help uncle Strom elect Nixon' sticker. I've seen it.) My grandma voted for Wallace. I still can't believe that.
1972 Nixon
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
Romantic interlude: MOM and DAD meet
M is born!
1988 Reagan
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
1990 Bush

My mother's actual votes
MOM was born in '47 in Galveston, TX
1964 LBJ (couldn't vote yet, but a major supporter. She even met the guy)
1968 MOM was clean for Gene! Then voted Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Ford (The big switch! Carter turned her off the democrats!)
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
Romantic interlude: MOM and DAD meet
M is born!
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Nym90 on February 01, 2004, 05:40:24 AM
I think I would have voted Democratic in every election, with the only possible exception being 1976 (Ford being from my home state and having attended my alma mater). Even then I still think I would have gone for Carter.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 01, 2004, 06:06:32 AM
My first election will be next year, but with the benefit of hindsight let me, as the jaguar of the Inca king would say, "pass through a blue mist to a diferent time and place".

1948          Truman
1952          Eisenhower
1956          Eisenhower
1960          Kennedy
1964          Goldwater (I like Johnson, but Goldwater was awesome, even if there are serious places I disagree with him.)
1968          Nixon
1972          Scoop Jackson in the primary. Then maybe not vote?
1976          Ford; Reagan in primary
1980          Reagan
1984          Reagan
1988          Bush
1992          Bush
1996          Dole (no good choices this election at all)
2000          Bush
 
My father's actual votes
DAD was born in '50 in Dillon, SC
1968 Nixon (couldn't vote yet, but a major supporter. Still has a 'help uncle Strom elect Nixon' sticker. I've seen it.) My grandma voted for Wallace. I still can't believe that.
1972 Nixon
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
Romantic interlude: MOM and DAD meet
M is born!
1988 Reagan
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
1990 Bush

My mother's actual votes
MOM was born in '47 in Galveston, TX
1964 LBJ (couldn't vote yet, but a major supporter. She even met the guy)
1968 MOM was clean for Gene! Then voted Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Ford (The big switch! Carter turned her off the democrats!)
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
Romantic interlude: MOM and DAD meet
M is born!
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Bush

I think your dad might be the only one in the country who voted for Reagan in 1988... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: M on February 01, 2004, 02:17:06 PM
Actually, he wrote in Nancy Reagan. No, he voted Bush. Oops.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: YRABNNRM on February 01, 2004, 02:34:51 PM
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Goldwater
1968- Sit Out
1972- Sit Out
1976- Reagan in Primary, Sit out General Election
1980- Reagan
1984- Reagan
1988- Bush
1992- Bush
1996- Dole
2000- McCain in Primary, Bush in General

If you can't tell Im not a fan of Nixon ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: KEmperor on February 01, 2004, 03:11:42 PM
Well, there seem to be arbitrary dates that everyone is starting, so I figured what the hell, I'll just do all of them.  Here's all the people I would have voted for or have voted for:

1789:  Washington
1792:  Washington
1796:  Jefferson
1800:  Jefferson
1804:  Jefferson
1808:  Clinton
1812:  Clinton
1816:  Monroe
1820:  Monroe
1824:  Adams
1828:  Adams
1832:  Clay
1836:  Webster
1840:  Harrison
1844:  Polk
1848:  Van Buren
1852:  Hale
1856:  Fremont
1860:  Lincoln
1864:  Lincoln
1868:  Grant
1872:  Grant
1876:  Hayes
1880:  Garfield
1884:  Blane
1888:  Harrison
1892:  Harrison
1896:  McKinley
1900:  McKinley
1904:  Roosevelt
1908:  Taft
1912:  Roosevelt
1916:  Hughes
1920:  Harding
1924:  Coolidge
1928:  Hoover
1932:  Hoover
1936:  Landon
1940:  Willkie
1944:  Dewey
1948:  Truman
1952:  Eisenhower
1956:  Eisenhower
1960:  Nixon
1964:  Goldwater
1968:  Nixon
1972:  Hospers
1976:  Ford
1980:  Reagan
1984:  Reagan
1988:  Paul
1992:  Bush
1996:  Dole
2000:  Browne


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 01, 2004, 03:45:57 PM
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Goldwater
1968- Sit Out
1972- Sit Out
1976- Reagan in Primary, Sit out General Election
1980- Reagan
1984- Reagan
1988- Bush
1992- Bush
1996- Dole
2000- McCain in Primary, Bush in General

If you can't tell Im not a fan of Nixon ;)

B/c of non-Watergate reasons? Since the idea was not to vote with hindsight, i.e. not not vote for Nixon b/c of Watergate, since we didn't know about it until after his last election.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: YRABNNRM on February 01, 2004, 03:52:16 PM
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Goldwater
1968- Sit Out
1972- Sit Out
1976- Reagan in Primary, Sit out General Election
1980- Reagan
1984- Reagan
1988- Bush
1992- Bush
1996- Dole
2000- McCain in Primary, Bush in General

If you can't tell Im not a fan of Nixon ;)

B/c of non-Watergate reasons? Since the idea was not to vote with hindsight, i.e. not not vote for Nixon b/c of Watergate, since we didn't know about it until after his last election.

Yes, Nixon seemed like a corrupt and sneaky man even before Watergate to me(I've read biographies and such).


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 01, 2004, 04:17:16 PM
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Goldwater
1968- Sit Out
1972- Sit Out
1976- Reagan in Primary, Sit out General Election
1980- Reagan
1984- Reagan
1988- Bush
1992- Bush
1996- Dole
2000- McCain in Primary, Bush in General

If you can't tell Im not a fan of Nixon ;)

B/c of non-Watergate reasons? Since the idea was not to vote with hindsight, i.e. not not vote for Nixon b/c of Watergate, since we didn't know about it until after his last election.

Yes, Nixon seemed like a corrupt and sneaky man even before Watergate to me(I've read biographies and such).

OK, I guess you're right... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on February 01, 2004, 05:57:30 PM
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson (I'm not sure)
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson, of course. I think with Goldwater there would have been new Civil War in South (Blacks vs. Government) And possibly nuclear war in Vietnam/World wide (He said that he would be willing to use nukes in Vietnam)
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter or Anderson
1984: Mondale or maybe sit out
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry
2008: Kerry
2012: Edwards
2016: Edwards
2020: Nym90
2024: Nym90

But. As I have already said: If I had grown up in USA, I  possibly would be Republican.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Carey on February 02, 2004, 09:12:51 AM
from 1900 onwards:

1900: McKinley
1904: Roosevelt
1908: Taft
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Smith
1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: probably Roosevelt
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Reagan
1984: Mondale
1988: Bush
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
 


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on February 02, 2004, 04:23:40 PM
I would go from an avowed Federalist to a Democrat, briefly flirting with third party candidates like Lincoln, Debs, and La Follette.

1789 Washington
1792 Washington
1796 Adams
1800 Adams
1804 Pinckney
1808 Pinckney
1812 Clinton
1816 King
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Van Buren
1840 Van Buren
1844 Polk
1848 Cass
1852 Pierce
1856 Buchanan (If only for his supposed sexual orientation)
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Tilden
1880 Hancock
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Cleveland
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 Debs
1908 Bryan
1912 Wilson
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Carter
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Clinton
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 02, 2004, 04:27:34 PM
Nice to see another person against Reagan twice :)
No John Anderson in 1980 for Immy though.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 02, 2004, 04:30:27 PM
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Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 02, 2004, 04:45:17 PM
I would go from an avowed Federalist to a Democrat, briefly flirting with third party candidates like Lincoln, Debs, and La Follette.

1789 Washington
1792 Washington
1796 Adams
1800 Adams
1804 Pinckney
1808 Pinckney
1812 Clinton
1816 King
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Clay
1836 Van Buren
1840 Van Buren
1844 Polk
1848 Cass
1852 Pierce
1856 Buchanan (If only for his supposed sexual orientation)
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Tilden
1880 Hancock
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Cleveland
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 Debs
1908 Bryan
1912 Wilson
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Carter
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Clinton
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore

Why is Lincoln a 3rd party candidate?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: jaichind on February 02, 2004, 08:21:07 PM
1796 Jefferson
1800 Jefferson
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe
1820 Monroe
1824 Jackson
1828 Jackson
1832 Jackson
1836 Van Buren
1840 Harrison
1844 Polk
1848 Cass
1852 Pierce
1856 Buchanan
1860 Breckenridge
1864 McClellan
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Hayes
1880 Hancock
1884 Blaine
1888 Harrison
1892 Harrison
1896 McKinley
1900 Roosevelt
1904 Rossevelt
1908 Taft
1912 Taft
1916 Hughes
1920 Harding
1924 Coolidge
1928 Hoover
1932 Hoover
1936 Landon
1940 Willkie
1944 Dewey
1948 Thurmond
1952 Eisenhower
1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace
1972 Nixon
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Bush



Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 02, 2004, 08:24:02 PM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

no Anderson in 1980 or LaFollette in 1924 either :(


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on February 02, 2004, 08:47:19 PM

Why is Lincoln a 3rd party candidate?

Well, he was kind of a third party at the time, neither a Democrat nor a Whig.  I just didn't want to admit I'd vote for a Republican. :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Nym90 on February 03, 2004, 01:43:28 AM
Thanks for your vote in advance, Huckelberry! I'll be 42 in 2020, so I guess I'd be old enough to run by then... ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 03, 2004, 10:28:04 AM

Why is Lincoln a 3rd party candidate?

Well, he was kind of a third party at the time, neither a Democrat nor a Whig.  I just didn't want to admit I'd vote for a Republican. :)

Ah, I suspected that was your real reason. :) I think he has to be seen as a major party candidate anyway, sorry Immy. ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: elcorazon on February 03, 2004, 11:08:28 AM
1964 Johnson
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Carter
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Clinton
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore
2004 Edwards


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on February 03, 2004, 12:29:17 PM
Nyman. It is always the joy to support Finnish-American candidate!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TheWildCard on February 03, 2004, 04:54:56 PM
1860 Lincoln!(the greatest President there ever was)
1864 Lincoln!
1868 Grant!
1872 Grant
1876 Hayes
1880 Garfield
1884 Blaine
1888 Harrison
1892 Harrison
1896 Mckinley!
1900 McKinley!
1904 TR!
1908 Taft
1912 Taft
1916 Hughes
1920 Harding
1924 Coolidge
1928 Hoover
1932 FDR
1936 Landon
1940 Wilkie
1944 Dewey( After WWII I might have voted for FDR again but I think I'd have been concerned about one man being President for so long)
1948 Dewey(May have heavily considered Truman though)
1952 Eisenhower!
1956 Eisenhower!
1960 Nixon!
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon!
1972 Nixon!
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan!
1984 Reagan!
1988 Bush!
1992 Bush
1996 Dole!
2000 Bush!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 04, 2004, 10:08:53 AM
1860 Lincoln!(the greatest President there ever was)
1864 Lincoln!
1868 Grant!
1872 Grant
1876 Hayes
1880 Garfield
1884 Blaine
1888 Harrison
1892 Harrison
1896 Mckinley!
1900 McKinley!
1904 TR!
1908 Taft
1912 Taft
1916 Hughes
1920 Harding
1924 Coolidge
1928 Hoover
1932 FDR
1936 Landon
1940 Wilkie
1944 Dewey( After WWII I might have voted for FDR again but I think I'd have been concerned about one man being President for so long)
1948 Dewey(May have heavily considered Truman though)
1952 Eisenhower!
1956 Eisenhower!
1960 Nixon!
1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon!
1972 Nixon!
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan!
1984 Reagan!
1988 Bush!
1992 Bush
1996 Dole!
2000 Bush!

Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on February 04, 2004, 08:16:05 PM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

A Democrat from Idaho. Now THAT is scary.

Not scary, the wave of the future.  ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TheWildCard on February 05, 2004, 11:32:04 AM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 05, 2004, 11:35:33 AM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TheWildCard on February 05, 2004, 12:58:45 PM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist?

Yes, that is true... But I must revert back to my stance that it would have worried me to see someone get more then 2 terms as president


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 05, 2004, 01:34:54 PM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist?

Yes, that is true... But I must revert back to my stance that it would have worried me to see someone get more then 2 terms as president

OK...I'll accept that. ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: bejkuy on February 05, 2004, 01:55:34 PM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

A Democrat from Idaho. Now THAT is scary.

Not scary, the wave of the future.  ;)

No, not the wave of the future, the wave of the past.  
My dad was born in Lewiston and my grandfather in Kendrick (it's up the Clearwater river) and they have told me that Nez Perce county was traditionally democratic.  

Not anymore!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on February 05, 2004, 02:16:05 PM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

A Democrat from Idaho. Now THAT is scary.

Not scary, the wave of the future.  ;)

No, not the wave of the future, the wave of the past.  
My dad was born in Lewiston and my grandfather in Kendrick (it's up the Clearwater river) and they have told me that Nez Perce county was traditionally democratic.  

Not anymore!

I'm from Lewiston, so I can tell you that I think that the Democrats are coming back.  In 2002 the Ds won all but one of the local races and voted for al lthe statewide D candidates but two.

And up here in Moscow (home of the University of Idaho where I am a student) there is a substantial Democratic population and the Republicans are moderate if not liberal.

And Boise just elected a Democratic mayor last year.

What does that mean?  Probably nothing, but I can get my hopes up, can't I? :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 05, 2004, 02:17:39 PM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

A Democrat from Idaho. Now THAT is scary.

Not scary, the wave of the future.  ;)

No, not the wave of the future, the wave of the past.  
My dad was born in Lewiston and my grandfather in Kendrick (it's up the Clearwater river) and they have told me that Nez Perce county was traditionally democratic.  

Not anymore!

Idaho was strongly Democratic until TR won it in 1904. It still voted Dem in 1912 and 1916, and then followed the rest of the country in voting Dem during the period 1932-1948. But the last time it voted Dem was 1964, and then only very narrowly.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: minionofmidas on February 06, 2004, 07:15:07 AM
Jainchind supports pro-segregation candidates like Brenckinridge in 1860, Thurmond in 1948 and Wallace in 1968?  Scary.

He also supported Democrat Winfield Scott Hancock in 1880, who was attacking Rep. James A Garfield for being opposed to the Chinese Exclusion Act. In other words, he would have voted for a man who wanted to deport him!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 06, 2004, 08:17:02 AM
<<he would have voted for a man who wanted to deport him!>>

He's a little out there.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 06, 2004, 12:29:23 PM
<<he would have voted for a man who wanted to deport him!>>

He's a little out there.

You ought to read his posts on Taiwan... :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on February 06, 2004, 08:09:59 PM
Immy. I met one guy from Lewiston, Idaho two years ago. He was as change-student in Finland. About your age. I can't remember his name. I interviewed him for newspaper. World is really small!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 06, 2004, 09:30:28 PM
Immy. I met one guy from Lewiston, Idaho two years ago. He was as change-student in Finland. About your age. I can't remember his name. I interviewed him for newspaper. World is really small!

It was probably him.

Lol...Immy might know this guy, at least.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on February 07, 2004, 05:16:51 PM
Immy. I met one guy from Lewiston, Idaho two years ago. He was as change-student in Finland. About your age. I can't remember his name. I interviewed him for newspaper. World is really small!

It was probably him.

Well Trondheim. I meant that he could know this guy. In small town highschool it could be well-known case that someone go to as exchange student to Europe.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on February 07, 2004, 07:55:44 PM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.

Seeing as the Senate was controled by the Democrats....


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 07, 2004, 08:34:11 PM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.

Seeing as the Senate was controled by the Democrats....

Well, I seemed to remember that FDR had a lot of problems with the congress, so I have always supposed that it was a Republican congress, but I guess I was wrong.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Taft on February 07, 2004, 08:43:58 PM
1824: Clay
1828: Adams
1832: Clay
1836: Harrison or White(not sure who ran in VA)
1840: Harrison
1844: Clay
1848: Cass
1852: Scott
1856: Buchanan
1860: Douglas
1864: Lincoln(Democrats too chaotic)
1868: Grant
1872: Greeley
1876: Tilden
1880: Hancock
1884: Cleveland
1888: Cleveland
1892: Cleveland
1896: Bryan
1900: Bryan
1904: TR
1908: Bryan
1912: TR
1916: Wilson
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover
1932: FDR
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Dewey
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Wallace
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush

I generally cut a strong conservative streak, with a few annoyed-at-incumbent bumps.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 07, 2004, 08:48:19 PM
I don't like that....


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on February 07, 2004, 08:51:59 PM

He also seems to have supported the Democrats during the Civil War era, which is worse...


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on February 07, 2004, 08:55:52 PM
He also seems to have supported the Democrats during the Civil War era, which is worse...
Douglas would have been a good president.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: 12th Doctor on February 07, 2004, 08:59:03 PM
Why wouldn't you have voted for him during the war?

Well I might have felt that we could have gotten involved earlier and without a doubt I would have been concerned about a person haveing more then 2 terms as President.

But weren't the Republicans at the time more isolationist? I know the American senate stopped Jewish children from entering the US during the 30s.

Seeing as the Senate was controled by the Democrats....

Well, I seemed to remember that FDR had a lot of problems with the congress, so I have always supposed that it was a Republican congress, but I guess I was wrong.

There were never more than 35 (out of 96) Republicans in the Senate during the FDR administration until the start of the war.  For two years there were only 16 Republicans!  The House had about the same percentages thoughout the era.  FDR had trouble because most of his proposals were too socialistic for even most of the New Deal Democrats.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Taft on February 07, 2004, 09:52:38 PM
Ok...the pre-Civil War moves are Whig through '52, excepting Cass in '48.  Once the Whigs fell apart, I go Democratic as opposed to Republican.  Douglas would have been a default choice...Breckinridge and Lincoln were too far out for me, due to their strictly sectional support and the possibility of tension if Lincoln wins.  Bell...bit of an unknown quantity.  That leaves Douglas, who's got the moderation and principle going for him.

Once we have the war, I vote Republican until the Republicans go off the reservation and the Radicals take over.  1868 would have been a toss up, but I would have left in 1872 and not returned thanks to the Grant Administration's bad second term.

I would have been in the Democratic Column through the early part of the 20th Century, possibly jumping to the Populists in 1892.  By the 1900's, I'd be considered a Progressive since my bent is toward a few of their ideas.  1908 is a guess that I would have stuck with Bryan after going for him twice before.  1916, I'd have jumped because Hughes couldn't decide what his positions were on foreign policy(I hate wishy-washy).  In the 20's, I'd have probaby gone Republican because the Dems were a mess at this time, and then been a Hoovercrat in all likelihood.

In 1932, I would have been with FDR out of frustration at Hoover.  This wouldn't have lasted long once I saw his programs.  I would have stayed with him no longer than 1938, and that'd have been a stretch.  I then drift back in '48 due to Dewey being wishy-washy to an extreme.  I walk off when Adlai appears, and 1960 is more of a guess(I would be strongly anti-Communist).

Goldwater had the advantage that he wasn't LBJ, and I would have been firmly in the Byrd Democrat line(note: golden silences) since the late 40's.  1968 has a bit of guessing here.  The Dems were anti-war.  The GOP wasn't much better.  So I would have gone sailing off with Wallace and his hawkish stances.

After this, the Dems nominate 4 certifiable idiots IMO.  McGovern-no way.  Carter '76-not likely(would have gone with Reagan in the GOP). Carter '80-no.  Mondale-no way.  Dukakis-no.  Clinton '92-not likely.  Clinton '96-no.  Gore-no.  And, just as a twist on things, I am an Edwards fan now, since it appears we have a lying/misrepresenting incumbent at worst and a big spender at best(which is bad in my book).


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on April 06, 2004, 08:20:27 PM
1900: William McKinely

1904: Alton B. Parker

1908: William H. Taft (I am not a Bryan Fan)

1912: Eugene Chaflin (Prohibition)

1916: Charles E. Hughes

1920: Warren G. Harding

1924: Calvin Coolidge

1928: Herert Hoover (America's hardest working president)

1932: Herbert Hoover

1936: Alfred Landon

1940: Wedell Wilkie

1944: Thomas Dewey

1948: Strom Thurmond

1952: Douglas MacArthur (Write-In)

1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower

1960: Richard M. Nixon

1964: Barry Goldwater (Without one hesitation!)

1968: George Walllace

1972: Richard M. Nixon

1976: Gerald R. Ford

1980: Ronald Reagan

1984: Ronald Reagan

1988: George H.W. Bush

1992: George H.W. Bush

1996: Bob Dole

2000: Patrick Buchanan (Reform)

2004: George W. Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: zachman on April 06, 2004, 08:35:51 PM
Why are so many of you opposed to TR?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Nation on April 06, 2004, 08:37:28 PM
I thought there was a large Teddy following on the board here? Maybe I was reading it wrong.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on April 06, 2004, 08:40:39 PM
Judge Parker truly shares my conservative views. Do you know his VP choice, Henry Davis, was 80 years old.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: bullmoose88 on April 07, 2004, 04:51:11 PM
1900: McKinnley
1904: T. Roosevelt
1908: Taft
1912: T. Roosevelt
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover
1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Wilkie
1944: FDR (if only because of the war, keep the same leaders...no war..then Dewey all the way)
1948: Dewey
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Johnson (Goldwater was worse...no joke)
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon (Providing I didn't know about Watergate, marginally Nixon if I did)
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan, Bush in the Primary
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000: Bush
2004: Undecided, likely not Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: opebo on April 07, 2004, 05:48:13 PM
GOP every time.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on April 08, 2004, 11:49:59 AM
1928: Herert Hoover (America's hardest working president)

1932: Herbert Hoover

Interesting. What makes you think Hoover was so great?
This is a genuine question, historians always lay into Hoover so it would be interesting to read a viewpoint in his favour.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Siege40 on April 08, 2004, 10:06:46 PM
1900, 04, 08, 20: Debs
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Benson
1924: LaFollette
1928, 32, 36, 44, 48: Thomas
1940: Aiken
1952: Hass or Hoopes
1956, 60, 64: Hass
1968: Blomen
1972: Jenness
1976: Camejo
1980: DeBerry
1984: Mason
1988, 92: Warren
1996, 2000: Harris

Long list.

Siege40


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 08, 2004, 10:32:12 PM
1900, 04, 08, 20: Debs
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Benson
1924: LaFollette
1928, 32, 36, 44, 48: Thomas
1940: Aiken
1952: Hass or Hoopes
1956, 60, 64: Hass
1968: Blomen
1972: Jenness
1976: Camejo
1980: DeBerry
1984: Mason
1988, 92: Warren
1996, 2000: Harris

Long list.

Siege40

You're a lefty.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 09, 2004, 04:17:36 AM
1900, 04, 08, 20: Debs
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Benson
1924: LaFollette
1928, 32, 36, 44, 48: Thomas
1940: Aiken
1952: Hass or Hoopes
1956, 60, 64: Hass
1968: Blomen
1972: Jenness
1976: Camejo
1980: DeBerry
1984: Mason
1988, 92: Warren
1996, 2000: Harris

Long list.

Siege40

Are there ANY candidates who won who you would have voted for?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Siege40 on April 09, 2004, 11:04:07 AM
Yes, I am both a Socialist and a left-handed person, and no, I would not of voted for anyone that won. I was tempted with FDR, but I decided otherwise.

Siege40


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 09, 2004, 11:50:11 AM
Yes, I am both a Socialist and a left-handed person, and no, I would not of voted for anyone that won. I was tempted with FDR, but I decided otherwise.

Siege40

How about any from either the Democrats or the Republicans? lol no?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Siege40 on April 09, 2004, 03:05:55 PM
Yes, I am both a Socialist and a left-handed person, and no, I would not of voted for anyone that won. I was tempted with FDR, but I decided otherwise.

Siege40

How about any from either the Democrats or the Republicans? lol no?

Like I said, maybe FDR, but I doubt that. I don't really like the guy enough to vote for him.

Siege40


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: GD on April 09, 2004, 03:09:36 PM
The person I am today would have voted for the same candidate that Vermont voted for in every presidential election.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 09, 2004, 03:12:20 PM
The person I am today would have voted for the same candidate that Vermont voted for in every presidential election.

Against FDR??


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: GD on April 09, 2004, 03:30:36 PM

Well, maybe during the war in 1944, I might have voted FDR, but I probably would have still been mad at him over the whole Supreme Court thing.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dunn on April 09, 2004, 04:30:35 PM

Well, maybe during the war in 1944, I might have voted FDR, but I probably would have still been mad at him over the whole Supreme Court thing.
You'll vote Nixon (x2), ford, Reagen (x2), Bush sr and then against Bush sr for Clinton?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: GD on April 09, 2004, 04:55:15 PM
You'll vote Nixon (x2), ford, Reagen (x2), Bush sr and then against Bush sr for Clinton?
What I think I would have voted:

1968 = Nixon
1972 = Nixon
1976 - Ford
1980 = Reagan? maybe Anderson?
1984 = Reagan
1988 = Bush? What alternative?
1992 = I might have really voted Perot. Vermont gave him a strong vote.
1994 Republican takover of congress. Yeah!
1996 Clinton for balenced govenment
2000 Gore

My real votes -
in 1988 I liked Bush, but didn't vote for him.
1992 - Bush, but that was me then not now.
1996 - I voted Dole, but that was me then not now.
2000 - Gore

Call me liberatarian with a bit of a social concern. I don't think big government is a great idea, and some of it had to go in 1994, but I really don't like the direction the religious right has taken the Republican party.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on April 10, 2004, 02:41:32 PM
Slightly revised my votes.

I definitely would have been a Whig in the mid-19th century, and a Republican in the late 19th century. That era produced some great idealists: Fremont, Lincoln, Harrison, etc. In the early 20th century I would've voted for the likes of Bryan and Debs. Then FDR came along and scooped up all of us quasi-socialists for the Dem vote...

1789 George Washington
1792 George Washington (Federalist)
1796 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1804 Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808 James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1812 DeWitt Clinton (Federalist)
1816 Rufus King (Federalist)
1820 James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1824 Andrew Jackson (Democrat-Republican)
1828 Andrew Jackson (Democrat)
1832 Andrew Jackson (Democrat)
1836 Martin van Buren (Democrat)
1840 William Henry Harrison (Whig)
1844 Henry Clay (Whig)
1848 Martin van Buren (Free Soil)
1852 Winfield Scott (Whig)
1856 John Fremont (Republican)
1860 Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864 Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1868 Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872 Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1876 Rutherford Hayes (Republican)
1880 James Garfield (Republican)
1884 James Blaine (Republican)
1888 Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892 James Weaver (Populist)
1896 William Jennings Bryan (Democrat)
1900 William Jennings Bryan (Democrat)
1904 Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1908 Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1912 Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1916 Allan Benson (Socialist)
1920 Eugene Debs (Socialist)
1924 Robert LaFollette (Progressive)
1928 Norman Thomas (Socialist)
1932 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat)
1936 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat)
1940 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat)
1944 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat)
1948 Henry Wallace (Progressive)
1952 Adlai Stevenson (Democrat)
1956 Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)
1960 John F. Kennedy (Democrat)
1964 Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)
1968 Fred Halstead (Socialist)
1972 George McGovern (Democrat)
1976 Jimmy Carter (Democrat)
1980 John Anderson (Independent)
1984 Walter Mondale (Democrat)
1988 Michael Dukakis (Democrat)
1992 Bill Clinton (Democrat)
1996 Bill Clinton (Democrat)
2000 Al Gore (Democrat)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dunn on April 10, 2004, 04:22:11 PM
you can join the progressives MZ


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: The Dowager Mod on April 10, 2004, 07:02:40 PM
1948:truman
1952:ike
1956:ike
1960:kennedy
1964:johnson
1968:humphrey
1972:McGovern
1976:ford
1980:reagan
1984:reagan
1988:dukakis
1992:clinton
1996:clinton
2000:gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on April 10, 2004, 07:15:18 PM
Hello Texasgurl, welcome to the forum!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: The Dowager Mod on April 10, 2004, 07:20:39 PM
thanx! :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dunn on April 10, 2004, 07:21:47 PM
Are you a girl or is it just a name?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: ilikeverin on April 10, 2004, 07:29:25 PM
It's in her profile!  Welcome!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: ilikeverin on April 10, 2004, 07:29:40 PM
@ MZ: what dunn said!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: nader on April 10, 2004, 09:16:09 PM

1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: George Wallace
1972: John Schmitz
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: John Anderson
1984: Lyndon LaRouche
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Ralph Nader
2000: Ralph Nader


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 10, 2004, 09:18:38 PM

You traitor to all that is good.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 11, 2004, 04:17:41 AM


George Wallace?!?!?!?!??!?!?!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on April 11, 2004, 05:43:38 AM
you can join the progressives MZ

I'd love to, but as I'm writing this Boss Tweed is standing in the corner with a cage full of rabid pitbull terriers, gesticulating at me in a threatening manner. No, I think I'm very happy being a Dem. Veeeeeeery happy indeeeed.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dunn on April 11, 2004, 06:25:34 AM
you can join the progressives MZ

I'd love to, but as I'm writing this Boss Tweed is standing in the corner with a cage full of rabid pitbull terriers, gesticulating at me in a threatening manner. No, I think I'm very happy being a Dem. Veeeeeeery happy indeeeed.
lol

He does have Esteban and Volk1 in his basement ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 11, 2004, 06:37:04 AM

1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: George Wallace
1972: John Schmitz
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: John Anderson
1984: Lyndon LaRouche
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Ralph Nader
2000: Ralph Nader

LYNDON LAROUCHE????????


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 11, 2004, 07:03:09 AM

1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: George Wallace
1972: John Schmitz
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: John Anderson
1984: Lyndon LaRouche
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Ralph Nader
2000: Ralph Nader

LYNDON LAROUCHE????????

woah!!! I didn't notice that 1!!!!


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on April 11, 2004, 07:24:23 AM

1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: George Wallace
1972: John Schmitz
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: John Anderson
1984: Lyndon LaRouche
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Ralph Nader
2000: Ralph Nader

LYNDON LAROUCHE????????

woah!!! I didn't notice that 1!!!!

I second the long series of question marks! ???????????????


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on April 11, 2004, 07:25:03 AM

It was in JohnDFord's profile as well, it didn't make him a girl... ;)

I'll extend my welcome too though. :) Welcome to the forum.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: RBH on April 11, 2004, 09:11:10 PM
based off candidates on the ballot in Missouri

All Democrats. Whoo.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 14, 2004, 06:50:39 PM
A Full List

1789: Jay (No Party)
1792: Burr (D-R)
1796: Burr (D-R)
1800: Burr (D-R)
1804: Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Madison (D-R)
1812: Madison (D-R)
1816: Monroe (D-R)
1820: Monroe (D-R)
1824: Jackson (D-R)
1828: Jackson (D)
1832: Jackson (D)
1836: Van Buren (D)
1840: Van Buren (D)
1844: Clay (Whig)
1848: Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852: Pierce (D)
1856: Fremont (R)
1860: Douglas (D)
1864: McClellan (D)
1868: Grant (R)
1872: Grant (R)
1876: Tilden (D)
1880: Garfield (R)
1884: Cleveland (D)
1888: Cleveland (D)
1892: Cleveland (D)
1896: McKinley (R)
1900: McKinley (R)
1904: TR (R)
1908: Taft (R)
1912: TR (Progressive)
1916: Wilson (D)
1920: Harding (R)
1924: LaFollette (Progressive)
1928: Smith (D)
1932: FDR (D)
1936: FDR (D)
1940: FDR (D)
1944: FDR (D)
1948: Truman (D)
1952: Stevenson (D)
1956: Eisenhower (R)
1960: Kennedy (D)
1964: Hass (Socialist Labor)
1968: Nixon (R)
1972: McGovern (D)
1976: Carter (D)
1980: John Anderson (National Union Party)
1984: Mondale (D)
1988: Dukakis (D)
1992: Perot (Independent)
1996: Clinton (D)
2000: Gore (D)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: zachman on April 14, 2004, 07:34:36 PM
You would have voted for Pierce? He was perhaps the least effective President in American history (spare Bill Henry Harrison).


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 14, 2004, 08:17:41 PM
You would have voted for Pierce? He was perhaps the least effective President in American history (spare Bill Henry Harrison).

I wouldn't have known that at the time.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: lidaker on April 15, 2004, 04:29:10 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 15, 2004, 04:31:48 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 15, 2004, 07:32:39 PM

Good man ;)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on April 17, 2004, 09:11:58 AM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.

Hey, this guy's from Sweden! :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: dunn on April 17, 2004, 09:25:33 AM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.

Hey, this guy's from Sweden! :)
lol


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 17, 2004, 01:35:04 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.

Hey, this guy's from Sweden! :)

Now you aren't alone :)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on April 17, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.

Hey, this guy's from Sweden! :)

Now you aren't alone :)

he wasn't before, there is someone called Oscar who posted once from Sweden, in fact, Gustaf's brother.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on April 17, 2004, 01:38:10 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

all but 1 democrats, and he was an independent lol.

Hey, this guy's from Sweden! :)

Now you aren't alone :)

he wasn't before, there is someone called Oscar who posted once from Sweden, in fact, Gustaf's brother.

Oscar Lundgren

that sounds funny


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on June 12, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
Thought I would bring this back up to the front page with mine from 1896-2004.

1896: William Jennings Bryan/Arthur Sewall (D)
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson (D)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt/Charles Fairbanks (R)
1908: William Jennings Bryan/John Kern (D)
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson (P)
1916: Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall (D)
1920: James Cox/Franklin Roosevelt (D)
1924: John Davis/Charles Bryan (D)
1928: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (R)
1932: Franklin Roosevelt/John Garner (D)
1936: Franklin Roosevelt/John Garner (D)
1940: Franklin Roosevelt/Henry Wallace (D)
1944: Franklin Roosevelt/Harry Truman (D)
1948: Harry Truman/Alben Barkley (D) (Tough Choice)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (R)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (R)
1960: John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (D)
1964: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie (D)
1972: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (R)
1976: James Carter/Walter Mondale (D)
1980: John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I)
1984: Ronald Reagan/George Bush (R)
1988: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1992: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
1996: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
2000: Al Gore/Joseph Lieberman (D)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on July 19, 2004, 08:04:44 PM
Bump.  This is related to a topic started today.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: nini2287 on July 20, 2004, 10:47:15 AM
2004-Kerry
2000-Gore
1996-Clinton
1992-Clinton
1988-Bush
1984-Mondale
1980-Carter or Anderson
1976-Carter
1972-Nixon
1968-Humphrey
1964-LBJ
1960-Kennedy
1956-Stevenson
1952-Eisenhower
1948-Dewey
1944-FDR
1940-FDR
1936-FDR
1932-FDR
1928-Hoover
1924-Coolidge
1920-Harding
1916-Hughes
1912-Debs
1908-Debs
1904-Roosevelt
1900-McKinley
1896-McKinley
1892-Harrison
1888-Harrison
1884-Harrison
1880-Cleveland
1876-Tilden
1872-Greeley
1868-Grant
1864-Lincoln
1860-Douglas
1856-Fremont
1852-Scott
1848-Taylor
1844-Clay
1840-Harrison
1836-Harrison
1832-Clay
1828-Adams
1824-Clay
1820-Monroe
1816-Monroe
1812-Madison
1808-Madison
1804-Jefferson
1800-Adams
1796-Adams
1792-Washington
1789-Washington


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 20, 2004, 12:50:15 PM

I think you got these dates wrong. It's just a simple mistake though.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TommyC1776 on July 20, 2004, 01:47:07 PM
1892-Weaver
1896-Bryan
1900-Bryan
1904-TR
1908-Bryan
1912-Debs (socialist)
1916-Wilson
1920-Cox
1924-LaFollette
1928-Smith
1932-FDR
1936-FDR
1940-write in J. Garner
1944-FDR
1948-Truman
1952-Stevenson
1956-Stevenson
1960-Kennedy
1964-LBJ
1968-Hubert Humphrey
1972-George MCGovern
1976-Gerald Ford
1980-either write in Ted Kennedy or vote Anderson
1984-Mindale
1988-Dukakis
1992-Perot
1996-Perot
2000-Gore (wanted Bush then just b/c his father was president.  I didn't know his ideas)
2004-Nader


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on July 20, 2004, 04:33:06 PM
Here we go from 1789! (Parentheses indicates second vote for first four elections)

1789 Washington (Adams)
1792 Washington (Adams)
1796 Jefferson (Adams)
1800 Jefferson (Burr)
1804 Jefferson
1808 Madison
1812 Madison
1816 Monroe
1820 Monroe
1824 Adams
1828 Adams
1832 Wirt
1836 Van Buren
1840 Van Buren
1844 Clay
1848 Taylor
1852 Pierce
1856 Buchanan
1860 Douglas
1864 McClellan
1868 Seymour
1872 Greeley
1876 Tilden
1880 Hancock
1884 Cleveland
1888 Cleveland
1892 Cleveland
1896 McKinley
1900 McKinley
1904 Roosevelt
1908 Taft
1912 Roosevelt
1916 Wilson
1920 Cox
1924 Coolidge
1928 Hoover
1932 Hoover
1936 Landon
1940 Wilkie
1944 Dewey
1948 Thurmond
1952 Eisenhower
1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace
1972 Nixon
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Bush

Mostly a Democrat in the 19th century and mostly a Republican in the 20th


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 22, 2004, 02:49:40 PM
My new list:

1789: John Adams (No Party)

1792: George Washington (No Party)

1796: John Adams (Federalist)

1800: Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist)

1804: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)

1808: Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist)

1812: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)

1816: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)

1820: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)

1824: John Crawford (Democratic-Republican)

1828: Andrew Jackson (Democratic)

1832: Andrew Jackson (Democratic)

1836: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)

1840: Martin Van Buren (Democratic)

1844: James K. Polk (Democratic)

1848: Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)

1852: Winfield Scott (Whig)

1856: James Buchanan (Democratic)

1860: Stephen A. Douglas (Northern Democratic)

1864: Abraham Lincoln (Republican)

1868: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)

1872: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)

1876: Rutherford B. Hayes (Republican)

1880: James A. Garfield (Republican)

1884: John P. St. John (Prohibition)

1888:  Benjamin Harrison (Republican)

1892: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)

1896: William McKinley (Republican)

1900: William McKinley (Republican)

1904: Alton B. Parker (Democratic)

1908: William H. Taft (Republican)

1912: Eugene Chaflin (Prohibition)

1916: Charles E. Hughes (Republican)

1920: Warren G. Harding (Republican)

1924: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)

1928: Do I really need to say? Herbert Hoover (Republican)

1932: Herbert Hoover (Republican)

1936: William Lemke (Union)

1940: Wendell Wilkie (Republican)

1944: Thomas E. Dewey (Republican)

1948: Thomas E. Dewey (Republican)

1952: Douglas MacArthur (American Nationalist)

1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)

1960: Richard M. Nixon (Republican)

1964: Barry Goldwater (Republican)

1968: George Wallace (American Independent)

1972: Richard M. Nixon (Republican)

1976: Gerald R. Ford (Republican)

1980: Ronald Reagan (Republican)

1984: Ronald Reagan (Republican)

1988: George H. W. Bush (Republican)

1992: Andre Marrou (Libertarian)

1996: Robert J. Dole (Republican)

2000: George W. Bush (Republican)

2004: George W. Bush (Republican)

I changed a few from my old list after some historic study on the elections and the candidates.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on July 22, 2004, 03:08:23 PM
1792: George Washington (No Party)

In 1792 Washington ran under the Federalist party.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 22, 2004, 03:21:14 PM
1792: George Washington (No Party)

In 1792 Washington ran under the Federalist party.

He was endorsed by the Federalists, but never joined them. He did not like political parties.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on July 22, 2004, 03:28:38 PM
1792: George Washington (No Party)

In 1792 Washington ran under the Federalist party.

He was endorsed by the Federalists, but never joined them. He did not like political parties.

Atlas Election Results say differently. I just checked it.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2004, 03:30:53 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on July 22, 2004, 03:31:25 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.

That is what I am saying. My dispute is 1792, not 1789.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2004, 03:34:05 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.

That is what I am saying. My dispute is 1792, not 1789.

Yeah, 1792 Washington ran as a Federalist.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 22, 2004, 03:34:48 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.

He was not a Federalist. He favored them, but he never chose to be nominated by them. He was not a member of the Federalist Party. Washington is our only partyless president.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2004, 03:37:15 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.

He was not a Federalist. He favored them, but he never chose to be nominated by them. He was not a member of the Federalist Party. Washington is our only partyless president.

PBrunsel, he ran as a Federalist in 1792. Maybe he wasn't a member of the party but he ran as their candidate and accepted their nomination in 1792.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 22, 2004, 03:49:57 PM
I believe for Washington's first term he did not choose a party. PBrunsel's right, he did not like the idea of political parties. However, his second term he ran as a Federalist.

He was not a Federalist. He favored them, but he never chose to be nominated by them. He was not a member of the Federalist Party. Washington is our only partyless president.

PBrunsel, he ran as a Federalist in 1792. Maybe he wasn't a member of the party but he ran as their candidate and accepted their nomination in 1792.

I never read he accepted the Federalist Nomination. He was backed in 1792 by both the Democratic-Republicans and Federalists.

Washington never accepted a party's nomination and never was a member of a political party.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: King on July 22, 2004, 04:32:51 PM
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Perot
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2004, 04:36:49 PM

King, weren't you supporting Kerry?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 22, 2004, 04:39:07 PM
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: Nixon
1976: Ford
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush
1992: Perot
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Bush

A very nice and deverse list. I applaud you on your non-partisan list.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: King on July 22, 2004, 05:15:59 PM

I went to Bush, I realised my reasons for Kerry weren't that great and Bush seemed the closest to me.'

http://www.presidentmatch.com/

My platform =
64% of Bush's Platform
53% of Kerry's Platform


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Keystone Phil on July 22, 2004, 05:24:12 PM

I went to Bush, I realised my reasons for Kerry weren't that great and Bush seemed the closest to me.'

http://www.presidentmatch.com/

My platform =
64% of Bush's Platform
53% of Kerry's Platform

Well I'm glad to see you're on the right side ;D


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on July 23, 2004, 12:46:16 PM
some of you may be surpised by some of these, but that's only because of the lack of hindsight:

1824 Clay
1828 Jackson (of course I would never vote for him today, but I wouldn't have known about the Trail of Tears)
1832 Jackson
1836 Van Buren
1840 Van Buren
1844 Polk
1848 Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852 Hale (Free Soil)
1856 Fremont
1860 Lincoln
1864 Lincoln
1868 Grant
1872 Grant (corrupt as he was, I'd be too partisan and too much of a pro-union hardliner to note vote for him)
1876 Hayes
1880 Garfield
1884 Blaine
1888 Streeter (Union Labor)
1892 Cleveland (the Populists were very racist from what I've heard)
1896 Bryan
1900 Bryan
1904 T. Roosevelt
1908 Bryan
1912 T. Roosevelt
1916 Wilson
1920 Debs
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 FDR
1936 FDR
1940 FDR
1944 FDR
1948 Truman, though Wallace would be tempting
1952 Eisenhower
1956 Stevenson (I would be a bit of an Ike bandwagon jumper in 1952 and once this wore off by now my partisanship would shine through and I'd vote for Stevenson. I might've voted to reelect Ike if his civil rights push and forced desegregation happened already, but I beleive that was in his second term)
1960 Kennedy
1964 LBJ (remember, no hindsight benefit...)
1968 Humphrey (I'd be pissed at him, but he was a Minnesotan!)
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Carter
1984 Mondale
1988 Dukakis
1992 Clinton
1996 Clinton
2000 Gore
2004 Kerry


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: furnivala on July 29, 2004, 04:41:36 PM
I'm only 21 and recently become a U.S citizen from Canada.

And since i'm all about personal freedoms, TRUE personal freedoms with no double standard, it would be LP.

I will always vote for them until I die...

From what i've studied here so far, both sides give and take away from the country.

Why do you guys want someone to take care of you when you damn well that they are so out to lunch, they don't even care what you really think...

Honest politics... choosing the lesser evil out of the two.
not.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: gorkay on August 04, 2004, 12:58:10 PM
1948: Truman, maybe Wallace
1952: Stevenson
1956: Stevenson
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore

It's not that I would never vote for a Republican, it's just that they never nominate anyone worth voting for. There have been some Republican candidates in the past I've liked, and may have voted for had they been nominated, but they never get nominated (such as Rockefeller in 1968 and McCain in 2000). I certainly would have voted for Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, but they are the only great Republican Presidents, in my opinion.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: gorkay on August 04, 2004, 03:57:16 PM
Some of you guys went all the way back! Wow! Okay, here goes...
1789 & 1792: Washington (who else?)
1796, 1800 & 1804: Jefferson
1808: Madison
1812: Clinton
1816 & 1820: Monroe
1824 & 1828: Adams
1832: Clay
1836 & 1840: Van Buren
1844: Polk
1848: Van Buren
1852: Pierce, but only because he was Nathaniel Hawthorne's best friend
1856: Fremont
1860 & 1864: Lincoln
1868: dunno... I guess Grant if I had no foreknowledge of how bad he was going to be
1872: dunno... both candidates were lousy
1876: Tilden
1880: Hancock
1884, 1888 & 1892: Cleveland
1896 & 1900: Debs if he ran those years (I can't recall for sure); if not Bryan
1904: Roosevelt
1908: Debs
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Wilson
1920: Cox
1924: LaFollette
1928: Smith
1932, 1936, 1940 & 1944: Roosevelt

Some observations on other lists:
I'm surprised that so many people who voted mostly for Democrats said they would have gone for Ike in '52 & '56. I think Stevenson would have been a great President, and that Ike was mediocre at best.
It's ironic that some of the arch-conservatives, whom one would expect to be the most ardent defenders of capitalism, are so harsh in their judgments of FDR, who saved the capitalist system.



Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: ijohn57s on August 04, 2004, 10:27:36 PM
I tried to make my list by thinking about who I would have voted for if I had lived through the country's history. (Man, I'm old by now. :))

1789 & 1792: Washington
1796, 1800 & 1804: Jefferson
1808 & 1812: Madison
1816 & 1820: Monroe
1824 & 1828: Adams
1832: Clay
1836 & 1840: Van Buren
1844: Polk
1848: Taylor
1852: Pierce
1856: Buchanan
1860: Douglas
1864: I live in the CSA right now.
1868: Seymour
1872: Greely
1876: Hayes
1880: Garfield
1884: Cleveland
1888: Harrison
1892: Bidwell (By this time I'm sure Harrison and Cleveland both stink.)
1896 & 1900: McKinley
1904: Roosevelt
1908: Taft
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928 & 1932: Hoover
1936: Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: Roosevelt (Outstanding war leadership. Although I list him among the greats for his war leadership, I wouldn't have voted for him before because of social issues.)
1948: Dewey
1952 & 1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon (This one would have been a tougher choice due to Kennedy's positions on the military and taxes.)
1964: Goldwater
1968 & 1972 Nixon
1976: Ford
1980 & 1984: Reagan
1988 & 1992: Bush
1996: Dole
2000 & 2004: Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Ronald Reagan on August 05, 2004, 03:11:08 PM
1789 - Washington
1792 - Washington
1796 - Burr
1800 - Burr
1804 - Jefferson
1808 - Pinckney
1812 - Pinckney
1816 - King
1820 - Adams
1824 - Adams
1828 - Adams
1832 - Clay
1836 - Harrison
1840 - Harrison
1844 - Polk
1848 - Taylor
1852 - Scott
1856 - Fremont
1860 - Lincoln
1864 - Lincoln
1868 - Grant
1872 - Grant
1876 - Hayes
1880 - Garfield
1884 - Blaine
1888 - Harrison
1892 - Harrison
1896 - McKinley
1900 - McKinley
1904 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1912 - Taft
1916 - Hughes
1920 - Harding
1924 - Coolidge
1928 - Hoover
1932 - Hoover
1936 - Landon
1940 - Willkie
1944 - Dewey
1948 - Dewey
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Eisenhower
1960 - Nixon
1964 - Goldwater
1968 - Nixon
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Ford
1980 - Reagan
1984 - Reagan
1988 - Bush
1992 - Bush
1996 - Dole
2000 - Bush
2004 - Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 12, 2004, 09:35:32 PM
1789 - Washington
1792 - Washington
1796 - Jefferson
1800 - Jefferson
1804 - Jefferson
1808 - Madison
1812 - Clinton
1816 - King
1820 - Monroe
1824 - Crawford
1828 - Jackson
1832 - Jackson
1836 - Van Buren
1840 - Van Buren
1844 - Polk
1848 - Cass
1852 - Scott
1856 - Buchanan (No hindsight)
1860 - Douglas
1864 - Lincoln
1868 - Seymour
1872 - Abstain
1876 - Tilden
1880 - Hancock (My state's (PA) favorite son)
1884 - Cleveland
1888 - Streeter (Union Labor)
1892 - Weaver (Populists weren't rascist, for equality)
1896 - Bryan
1900 - Bryan
1904 - T. Roosevelt
1908 - Bryan
1912 - Wilson
1916 - Wilson
1920 - Christensen (Farmer-Labor)
1924 - LaFolette (Progressive)
1928 - Smith
1932 - FDR
1936 - FDR
1940 - FDR
1944 - FDR
1948 - Truman
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Stevenson
1960 - Kennedy
1964 - Johnson (No hindsight)
1968 - Humphrey
1972 - Abstain
1976 - Carter
1980 - Clark (Libertarian)
1984 - Mondale
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Clinton
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Gore
2004 - Kerry


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on August 12, 2004, 09:48:55 PM

I went to Bush, I realised my reasons for Kerry weren't that great and Bush seemed the closest to me.'

http://www.presidentmatch.com/

My platform =
64% of Bush's Platform
53% of Kerry's Platform

My platform =
53% of Kerry's
38% of Bush's

BUt I suspect there must be something wrong with that site, because it rated me as having 57% of Kuchinch's  If Kuchinich had ben the Dem nominee, I would certainly be voting for Bush.  Bush would have to do a lot worse than he is for me to think Pres. Kuchinch would be a good idea.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on August 12, 2004, 09:59:33 PM
1892 - Weaver (Populists weren't rascist, for equality)

I think I read somewhere that they had ties to the KKK, at least in the upper Midwest, although that could've been just a few of them.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gabu on August 12, 2004, 10:17:27 PM
1948: Truman
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Nixon
1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Reagan
1984: Reagan
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 12, 2004, 10:20:50 PM
Someone had very earlier asked who the Socialist candidate in 1916 was. The answer is:

ALLAN LOUIS BENSON of New York.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 12, 2004, 10:27:47 PM
Only the Populist Last Stand of 1908 pledged a rascist platform. The 1892 platform professes strong Civil Rights.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: lidaker on August 13, 2004, 01:24:34 PM
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: Nixon
1976: Carter
1980: Anderson
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Perot
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 13, 2004, 04:59:16 PM
Y'know, I think I have two of the weider selections:

Alson (Or Anson, depending on which resource you use) Jennesses Streeter, the 1888 Union Labor Party candidate, who finished fourth overall with 146,435 votes. I've seen a couple people who chose Streeter, but that's few and far between.

My singular selection of Parley Parker Christensen (1869-1954) of the Farmer Labor Party for the 1920 campaign is awkward looking, and I was curious if anyone knew any more info about either of them?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on August 17, 2004, 06:59:55 PM

Are you aware of John Anderson?


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: ?????????? on August 17, 2004, 07:26:35 PM
1912 : Wilson
1916 : Wilson
1920 : Cox
1924 : Davis
1928 : Hoover
1932 : FDR
1936 : FDR
1940 : FDR
1944 : Dewey
1948 : Thurmond
1952 : Eisenhower
1956 : Eisenhower
1960 : Nixon
1964 : Goldwater!! :)
1968 : Wallace
1972 : Nixon
1976 : Carter
1980 : Reagan
1984 : Reagan
1988 : Bush
1992 : Perot
1996 : Perot
2000 : Bush


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Reignman on August 18, 2004, 09:04:02 PM
1948: Truman, I guess
1952: ?
1956: ?
1960: Kennedy
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: abstain
1976: Carter
1980: abstain
1984: probably Mondale
1988: probably Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Akno21 on August 19, 2004, 11:14:31 AM
1932: FDR
1936: FDR
1940: FDR
1944: FDR
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Stevenson
1960: JFK
1964: LBJ
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TomM on August 20, 2004, 11:04:31 AM
Well hello, I'm new to the forum, but have been posting predictions for a little while now. Here goes...

1900 - McKinley
1904 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1912 - Roosevelt
1916 - Hughes
1920 - Cox
1924 - LaFollette
1928 - Hoover
1932 - Roosevelt
1936 - Roosevelt
1940 - Roosevelt
1944 - Roosevelt
1948 - Truman
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Eisenhower
1960 - Kennedy
1964 - Johnson
1968 - Humphrey
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Carter
1980 - Carter
1984 - Mondale
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Clinton
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Gore
2004 - Kerry


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Michael Z on August 21, 2004, 11:27:44 AM
Well hello, I'm new to the forum, but have been posting predictions for a little while now. Here goes...

1900 - McKinley
1904 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1912 - Roosevelt
1916 - Hughes
1920 - Cox
1924 - LaFollette
1928 - Hoover
1932 - Roosevelt
1936 - Roosevelt
1940 - Roosevelt
1944 - Roosevelt
1948 - Truman
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Eisenhower
1960 - Kennedy
1964 - Johnson
1968 - Humphrey
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Carter
1980 - Carter
1984 - Mondale
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Clinton
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Gore
2004 - Kerry


Welcome aboard, Tom!

I second that. Hi Tom, and welcome to the forum. Btw, how come you would've chosen Nixon over McGovern in 1972? It's just that it seems out of sync with your other votes.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Akno21 on August 21, 2004, 11:35:33 AM
Well hello, I'm new to the forum, but have been posting predictions for a little while now. Here goes...

1900 - McKinley
1904 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1912 - Roosevelt
1916 - Hughes
1920 - Cox
1924 - LaFollette
1928 - Hoover
1932 - Roosevelt
1936 - Roosevelt
1940 - Roosevelt
1944 - Roosevelt
1948 - Truman
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Eisenhower
1960 - Kennedy
1964 - Johnson
1968 - Humphrey
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Carter
1980 - Carter
1984 - Mondale
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Clinton
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Gore
2004 - Kerry


Welcome aboard, Tom!

I second that. Hi Tom, and welcome to the forum. Btw, how come you would've chosen Nixon over McGovern in 1972? It's just that it seems out of sync with your other votes.

Welcome aboard Tom. It's nice to have some new Democrats on the forum.

Btw, Michael Z, could you vote in the elections today, I'm up for re-election on the Fantasy Elections.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Ats on August 22, 2004, 04:25:54 PM
1948: Dewey

1952: Eisenhower

1956: Eisenhower

1960: Kennedy

1964: Goldwater: He opposed unconstitutional government, he was founder of Arizona NAACP and other civil rights intiative in his state.

1968: Humphrey

1972: McGovern

1976: Carter

1980: John Anderson (if that's not a choice, then Reagan)

1984: Reagan

1988: Bush

1992: Perot (if that's not a choice, then Clinton)

1996: Perot (if that's not a choice, then Dole)

2000: Bush (though in retrospect, I may have gone Gore)

That makes it 9-5 for me.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: TomM on August 22, 2004, 06:21:22 PM
Well hello, I'm new to the forum, but have been posting predictions for a little while now. Here goes...

1900 - McKinley
1904 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1912 - Roosevelt
1916 - Hughes
1920 - Cox
1924 - LaFollette
1928 - Hoover
1932 - Roosevelt
1936 - Roosevelt
1940 - Roosevelt
1944 - Roosevelt
1948 - Truman
1952 - Eisenhower
1956 - Eisenhower
1960 - Kennedy
1964 - Johnson
1968 - Humphrey
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Carter
1980 - Carter
1984 - Mondale
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Clinton
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Gore
2004 - Kerry


Welcome aboard, Tom!

I second that. Hi Tom, and welcome to the forum. Btw, how come you would've chosen Nixon over McGovern in 1972? It's just that it seems out of sync with your other votes.

Welcome aboard Tom. It's nice to have some new Democrats on the forum.

Btw, Michael Z, could you vote in the elections today, I'm up for re-election on the Fantasy Elections.

Thanks for the welcome folks. :-) No hindsight, hadn't really done to bad up till then, EPA, space shuttle, Vietnamization, but its tough to say though.


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: RBH on December 24, 2006, 03:19:46 AM
1824: Jackson
1828: Jackson
1832: Jackson
1836: Van Buren
1840: Harrison
1844: Birney
1848: Van Buren
1852: Scott
1856: Fremont
1860: Lincoln
1864: Lincoln
1868: Grant
1872: Grant
1876: Hayes
1880: Garfield
1884: Cleveland
1888: Cleveland
1892: Cleveland
1896: Bryan
1900: Bryan
1904: Roosevelt
1908: Bryan
1912: Roosevelt
1916: Wilson
1920: Cox
1924: LaFollette
1928: Smith
1932: Roosevelt
1936: Roosevelt
1940: Roosevelt
1944: Roosevelt
1948: Truman
1952: Stevenson
1956: Stevenson
1960: Kennedy
1964: Johnson
1968: Humphrey
1972: McGovern
1976: Carter
1980: Carter
1984: Mondale
1988: Dukakis
1992: Clinton
1996: Clinton
2000: Gore
2004: Kerry


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2006, 03:26:27 AM
1828: Adams (NR)
1832: Webster (NR)
1836: Van Buren (D)
1840: Van Buren (D)
1844: Birney (L)
1848: Van Buren (FS)
1852: Hale (FS)
1856: Frémont (R)
1860: Lincoln (R)
1864: Lincoln (R)
1868: Grant (R)
1872: Grant (R)
1876: Tilden (D)
1880: Weaver (GL)
1884: Butler (GL)
1888: Streeter (UL)
1892: Weaver (P)
1896: Bryan (D)
1900: Debs (SD)
1904: Debs (S)
1908: Debs (S)
1912: Debs (S)
1916: Benson (S)
1920: Debs (S)
1924: LaFollette (P)
1928: Smith (D)
1932: FDR (D)
1936: FDR (D)
1940: FDR (D)
1944: FDR (D)
1948: Truman (D)
1952: Stevenson (D)
1956: Stevenson (D)
1960: Kennedy (D)
1964: Johnson (D)
1968: Humphrey (D)
1972: McGovern (D)
1976: McCarthy (I)
1980: Anderson (I)
1984: Mondale (D)
1988: Dukakis (D)
1992: Perot (I)
1996: Nader (I)
2000: Gore (D)
2004: Kerry (D)

All of those with hindsight.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gabu on December 24, 2006, 03:27:22 AM

This post was rather a while ago, but I do believe that that was probably me forgetting to edit that particular year.  Anderson is light years ahead of both candidates there.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: adam on December 24, 2006, 04:37:14 AM
1789 George Washington
1792 George Washington
1796 Thomas Jefferson
1800 Thomas Jefferson
1804 Thomas Jefferson
1808 James Madison
1812 James Madison
1816 James Monroe
1820 James Monroe
1824 Andrew Jackson
1828 Andrew Jackson
1832 Andrew Jackson
1836 Daniel Webster
1840 William Henry Harrison
1844 James K. Polk
1848 Zachary Taylor
1852 Winfield Scott
1856 Millard Fillmore
1860 Abraham Lincoln
1864 Abraham Lincoln
1868 Horatio Seymour
1872 Horace Greeley
1876 Rutherford Hayes
1880 Winfield Hancock
1884 Grover Cleveland
1888 Grover Cleveland
1892 Grover Cleveland
1896 William McKinley
1900 William McKinley
1904 Theodore Roosevelt 
1908 William Jennings Bryan
1912 Woodrow Wilson
1916 Woodrow Wilson
1920 Warren Harding
1924 Calvin Coolidge
1928 Herbert Hoover
1932 Herbert Hoover
1936 Alfred Landon
1940 Wendell Willkie
1944 Franklin D. Roosevelt
1948 Harry S. Truman
1952 Dwight D. Eisenhower
1956 Dwight D. Eisenhower
1960 Richard Nixon
1964 Barry Goldwater
1968 Richard Nixon
1972 Richard Nixon
1976 Gerald Ford
1980 John Anderson
1984 Ronald Reagan
1988 George H.W. Bush
1992 Ross Perot
1996 Ross Perot
2000 George W. Bush
2004 Michael Badnarik


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Gustaf on December 24, 2006, 06:58:38 AM
1828: Adams (NR)
1832: Webster (NR)
1836: Van Buren (D)
1840: Van Buren (D)
1844: Birney (L)
1848: Van Buren (FS)
1852: Hale (FS)
1856: Frémont (R)
1860: Lincoln (R)
1864: Lincoln (R)
1868: Grant (R)
1872: Grant (R)
1876: Tilden (D)
1880: Weaver (GL)
1884: Butler (GL)
1888: Streeter (UL)
1892: Weaver (P)
1896: Bryan (D)
1900: Debs (SD)
1904: Debs (S)
1908: Debs (S)
1912: Debs (S)
1916: Benson (S)
1920: Debs (S)
1924: LaFollette (P)
1928: Smith (D)
1932: FDR (D)
1936: FDR (D)
1940: FDR (D)
1944: FDR (D)
1948: Truman (D)
1952: Stevenson (D)
1956: Stevenson (D)
1960: Kennedy (D)
1964: Johnson (D)
1968: Humphrey (D)
1972: McGovern (D)
1976: McCarthy (I)
1980: Anderson (I)
1984: Mondale (D)
1988: Dukakis (D)
1992: Perot (I)
1996: Nader (I)
2000: Gore (D)
2004: Kerry (D)

All of those with hindsight.

It may be old, but ti's still my thread. NO HINDSIGHT!


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on December 24, 2006, 07:05:36 AM
1789 George Washington
1792 Thomas Jefferson
1796 Thomas Jefferson
1800 Thomas Jefferson
1804 Thomas Jefferson
1808 James Madison
1812 Dewitt Clinton
1816 Rufus King
1820 James Monroe
1824 William Harris Crawford (perhaps, Don't really enough about him)
1828 Andrew Jackson
1832 Andrew Jackson (not in retrospect though)
1836 Martin Van Buren
1840 Martin Van Buren
1844 James Birney
1848 Martin Van Buren
1852 John Parker Hale
1856 John Fremont
1860 Stephen Douglas
1864 Abraham Lincoln
1868 <no vote>
1872 Victoria Woodhall (Equal Rights) - Why not? :P
1876 Samuel Tilden
1880 James Baird Weaver
1884 Grover Cleveland
1888 Grover Cleveland
1892 Grover Cleveland
1896 John McAuley Palmer
1900 Wharton Baker
1904 Alton B. Parker
1908 William Jennings Bryan
1912 Eugene Debs
1916 Allan Benson
1920 Eugene Debs
1924 Robert Lafollete
1928 Al Smith (Though NOT in retrospect)
1932 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1936
1940
1944 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1948 Henry Wallace
1952 Fredrick Poehl (Greenback)
1956
1960
1964 <no vote>
1968 Dick Gregory
1972 George McGovern
1976 Eugene McCarthy
1980 Edward Clark
1984
1988 Eugene McCarthy
1992 Ross Perot
1996 Ross Perot or Ralph Nader or Harry Browne
2000 Harry Browne
2004 David Cobb

Those I left blank I wasn't sure about - need to know more about the third parties.


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: merseysider on December 24, 2006, 03:36:16 PM
I'd probably have voted Democratic in almost every presidential election since the war, although I may have considered voting for Eisenhower in 52 and 56, and I may have put a peg on my nose to vote for Nixon in 72.


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: © tweed on December 24, 2006, 03:45:53 PM
Updated with time and more knowledge

1789: Washington (No Party)
1792: Burr (D-R)
1796: Burr (D-R)
1800: Burr (D-R)
1804: Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Madison (D-R)
1812: Madison (D-R)
1816: Monroe (D-R)
1820: Monroe (D-R)
1824: Jackson (D-R)
1828: Jackson (D)
1832: Jackson (D)
1836: Van Buren (D)
1840: Van Buren (D)
1844: Clay (Whig)
1848: Taylor (Whig)
1852: Pierce (D)
1856: Fremont (R)
1860: Douglas (D)
1864: McClellan (D)
1868: Grant (R)
1872: Grant (R)
1876: Tilden (D)
1880: Garfield (R)
1884: Cleveland (D)
1888: Cleveland (D)
1892: Cleveland (D)
1896: McKinley (R)
1900: McKinley (R)
1904: TR (R)
1908: Taft (R)
1912: TR (Progressive)
1916: Wilson (D)
1920: Debs (Socialist)
1924: LaFollette (Progressive)
1928: Hoover (R)
1932: FDR (D)
1936: FDR (D)
1940: FDR (D)
1944: FDR (D)
1948: Truman (D)
1952: Stevenson (D)
1956: Stevenson (D)
1960: Kennedy (D)
1964: Hass (Socialist Labor)
1968: Write-in: Eugene McCarthy
1972: McGovern (D)
1976: Carter (D)
1980: Carter (D)
1984: Mondale (D)
1988: Dukakis (D)
1992: Clinton (D)
1996: Clinton (D)
2000: Gore (D)
2004: Kerry (D)


Title: Re:Who would you have voted for?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 24, 2006, 04:07:28 PM
Updated with time and more knowledge

1789: Washington (No Party)
1792: Burr (D-R)
1796: Burr (D-R)
1800: Burr (D-R)

In those days, you voted for TWO people for President, and the guy who came in 1st became President, and the guy who came in 2nd became VP. In 1800, the Democratic-Republicans screwed up, and they had a Burr-Jefferson tie that went to Congress. The 12th amendment got rid of that stupid technicality.


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: DanielX on December 24, 2006, 09:14:38 PM
I assume I don't have future knowledge but roughly my OTL political beliefs.

For example, I assume I oppose slavery, but pre-1840 it doesn't present itself as a big issue and that I am not especially violent about it (given the full fury of my current anti-slavery beliefs and no future knowledge of how foolish it would have been, I could easily have joined John Brown's gang of terrorists/freedom fighters/insurgents/insertwordhere, or at least supported the Underground Railroad).

Years I'm mainly a Democrat:

1789: Washington
1792: Washington
1796: Adams
1800: Jefferson
1804: Jefferson
1808: Madison
1812: Madison
1816: Monroe
1820: Monroe
1824: Clay (JQ Adams w/hindsight)
1828: Jackson (JQ Adams w/hindsight)
1832: Clay
1836: Van Buren
1840: Van Buren

Radical Anti-Slavery years:
1844: Birney
1848: Van Buren
1852: Hale
1856: Fremont
1860: Lincoln
1864: Lincoln
1868: Grant (w/hindsight, Colfax)
1872: Grant (w/hindsight, Greeley)
1876: Hayes (w/hindsight, Tilden)

The Gilded Age:
1880: Garfield
1884: Blaine (w/hindsight, Cleveland)
1888: Cleveland
1892: Cleveland
1896: McKinley
1900: McKinley
1904: Parker
1908: Taft
1912: reluctantly Taft
1916: Hughes
1920: Harding
1924: Coolidge
1928: Hoover (w/hindsight, undecided)

FDR-era and Beyond (mostly Republican, with some Libertarian)
1932: Write-in DanielX :P (egad! the candidates sucked!)
1936: reluctantly Landon
1940: Willkie
1944: undecided (w/hindsight, Dewey)
1948: Dewey
1952: Eisenhower
1956: Eisenhower
1960: Nixon
1964: Goldwater
1968: Nixon (w/hindsight, write-in Reagan)
1972: Nixon (w/hindsight, Hospers)
1976: MacBride (w/hindsight, probably Ford)
1980: Reagan (although I might have considered Anderson or Clark)
1984: Reagan
1988: Bush (w/hindsight, Paul)
1992: Perot (I supported Bush, but I was 5 years old at the time...)
1996: Dole (supported); Support Forbes in Rep. Primary (I supported Dole, Alexander, and Gramm for no reason other than name recognition)
2000: Browne (supported); Support Forbes in Rep. Primary (I supported Dole and McCain)
2004: Bush (w/hindsight....gee.... they all pretty much sucked in 04)


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Frodo on December 24, 2006, 10:18:54 PM
1948: Harry Truman

1952: Dwight D. Eisenhower

1956: Dwight D. Eisenhower

1960: Richard M. Nixon

1964: Lyndon B. Johnson

1968: Hubert Humphrey

1972: Richard Nixon

1976: Jimmy Carter

1980: Ronald Reagan

1984: Ronald Reagan

1988: George H. W. Bush

1992: Bill Clinton

1996: Bill Clinton

2000: Al Gore

2004: John Kerry


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on December 26, 2006, 04:03:39 PM
Updated

going as far back as I can think off the top of my head

2004 - Kerry
2000 - Gore
1996 - Clinton
1992 - Clinton
1988 - Dukakis
1984 - Reagan
1980 - Reagan (probably...)
1976 - Carter
1972 - McGovern
1968 - Humphrey
1964 - Johnson
1960 - Kennedy
1956 - Eisenhower
1952 - Eisenhower
1948 - Truman (because we'd won the war under his leadership)
1944 - Roosevelt
1940 - Roosevelt
1936 - Roosevelt
1932 - Roosevelt
1928 - Smith
1924 - LaFollette
1920 - can't say
1916 - Hughes
1912 - Roosevelt
1908 - Taft
1904 - Roosevelt
1900 - McKinley
1896 - McKinley
1892 - Cleveland
1888 - Cleveland
1884 - Cleveland

and before that I really can't say who I'd vote for, besides Lincoln, who I'd have voted for twice. 


Title: Re: Who would you have voted for?
Post by: nini2287 on December 30, 2006, 12:52:17 PM
With hindsight:

2004-Bush
2000-Gore
1996-Clinton
1992-Clinton
1988-Bush
1984-Bergland (L)
1980-Anderson
1976-Ford
1972-probably Nixon
1968-Nixon
1964-write-in
1960-Kennedy (if he would survive), Nixon (if I can count on JFK's assassination)
1956-Eisenhower
1952-Eisenhower
1948-Truman
1944-FDR (if I knew he'd die), Dewey (if I knew FDR would survive)
1940-Wilkie
1936-Landon
1932-wreite-in