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Title: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 12:25:32 AM
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/election/article/0,1406,KNS_630_5119238,00.html                                         fifty to thirty eight.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:18:42 AM
Ford, Ford, Ford. Next time try running with some fresh ideas instead of recycled Republican ones. It is quite shocking that Corker is going to win a landslide though.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 05, 2006, 01:25:27 AM
Great job at winning elections, DLC.



Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:26:37 AM
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 05, 2006, 01:43:54 AM
Well at least Ford gave it a good run and forced the RSCC to pump cash here instead of MO and VA.

Hopefully he has a future later. Like someone else said, maybe mayor of Memphis.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:45:46 AM
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.

Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:46:19 AM
And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:47:40 AM
And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all.

Of course Casey is doing well, look who he is running against.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 05, 2006, 01:48:47 AM
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.

Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.

Tradesports has
TN 16.8%
MT 63.5%

Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:50:14 AM
not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.

Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now.

Tradesports has
TN 16.8%
MT 63.5%

Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls.

I wasn't going by Tradesports here but that basically backs me up anyway.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Adlai Stevenson on November 05, 2006, 05:15:28 AM
What happened to Ford?  He was doing so well and admittedly Corker's campaign was in a desultory state at one stage.  I don't care, the DSCC did force the Republicans to spend more money here than they would have liked. 


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Gustaf on November 05, 2006, 06:33:36 AM
Montana isn't really much more Republican than Tennesse. Both have Democratic Governors, both have one Democratic House of Congress (Montana then has one tied, Tennessee one GOP). Montana has a Republican House Rep, Tennessee has 6-5 to the Democrats, Tennessee has two Republican senators and Montana has one from each party.

It's true that Bush won Montana by 20% and Tennessee by 14%, by even so the difference isn't THAT big. Finally, Montana seems to be trending Democrat while Tennessee is going in the other direction.

But I admit that all that said, Ford should be doing better than he is.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 05, 2006, 06:36:32 AM
Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future.

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Montana is certainly a less Democratic state than Tennessee. Whether it's more Republican or not, depends on how thee measures things.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 05, 2006, 08:39:21 AM
Ford will still pull this out, don't worry.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Democratic Hawk on November 05, 2006, 08:50:36 AM
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Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: TheresNoMoney on November 05, 2006, 09:36:59 AM
Yes, Ford is done.

I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Ben. on November 05, 2006, 09:38:30 AM
Ah well... he's young a still has a long carrer ahead of him, I still think (even if it's Mason-Dixon) this poll seems an oddly wide lead for Corker,  at the moment I'd have him winning by 2-4 points... and going on to be a pretty non-descript Senator.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Conan on November 05, 2006, 12:13:05 PM
I could care less if Ford loses.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: bgwah on November 05, 2006, 12:19:00 PM
Aw, I was hoping he would win...


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 05, 2006, 12:22:03 PM
Yes, Ford is done.

I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%.

I had the same thought, given the nature of the race in the last month and a half, for Ford to drop through the floor so suddenly is very odd. Which is why I think anything with Ford not within 5 is not right.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: © tweed on November 05, 2006, 12:23:59 PM
Great job at winning elections, DLC.
Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future.

Oh, stop.  He did fine.  This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks.  He did a nice job.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Conan on November 05, 2006, 12:32:32 PM
Great job at winning elections, DLC.
Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future.

Oh, stop.  He did fine.  This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks.  He did a nice job.
This race could have been winnable with a white moderate who doesnt come from a corrupt family and that grew up in Tennessee.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: nini2287 on November 05, 2006, 12:44:46 PM
This race could have been winnable with a white moderate who doesnt come from a corrupt family and that grew up in Tennessee.

Ford was your best choice (along with some of the white moderate Congressmen--but their open seat would go to the GOP).  Against another candidate, Corker would be leading by at least 10 points all year.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: WalterMitty on November 05, 2006, 12:52:53 PM
Great job at winning elections, DLC.



yes obviously a jed lamont dailykos liberal would have a much better chance at winning in tn than a moderate.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Adlai Stevenson on November 05, 2006, 01:33:56 PM
Why are people, especially Democrats, tearing Ford apart?  This is one poll in any case I find it hard to believe Ford is at just 38%.  He has been around the 43%-47% since around September according to most polls.  And at one stage Corker and the state GOP were really bleeding; Ford has run a very effective campaign.  I still think Corker will win but by around 51%-52% to Ford's 47%-48% and incidentally I don't think this is the last we have heard of Harold Ford.  Maybe in a future Democratic administration he would make a good Attorney General. 


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2006, 02:14:24 PM
If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: © tweed on November 05, 2006, 02:23:56 PM
If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one.

Why this rather than RI?  Your "lack of confidence" in RI polling?


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2006, 02:34:58 PM
If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one.

Why this rather than RI?  Your "lack of confidence" in RI polling?

Yes.  Additionally, Charlie Cook's statement of a couple of days ago that Burns and Chafee had move back to being roughly even and had momentum on their side.

He's a smart guy, but in the House, he's become too reliant on his own Cook/RT Strategies polling, which is hurting his objectivity.  I can't see the Republicans losing less than 20 seats in the House and I could definitely see them losing 40-45 in a wave, but he's seeing things there that are not happening.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: opebo on November 05, 2006, 08:59:48 PM
It is just silly to blame Ford for this loss - the man is a black running in Tennessee.


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: HardRCafé on November 05, 2006, 10:13:41 PM
Ford will still pull this out, don't worry.

Like Fleming?


Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon]
Post by: Boris on November 05, 2006, 10:18:09 PM
Great job at winning elections, DLC.



Ford ran one of the best campaigns out of any candidate in the entire nation, but this was a really tough race for him to win. He had the lead for a week or so, but Corker revitalized his campaign and should win by about four points, maybe a similar margin that Gore lost the state by. This poll is definitely an outlier.