Title: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 12:25:32 AM http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/election/article/0,1406,KNS_630_5119238,00.html fifty to thirty eight.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:18:42 AM Ford, Ford, Ford. Next time try running with some fresh ideas instead of recycled Republican ones. It is quite shocking that Corker is going to win a landslide though.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 05, 2006, 01:25:27 AM Great job at winning elections, DLC.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:26:37 AM not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 05, 2006, 01:43:54 AM Well at least Ford gave it a good run and forced the RSCC to pump cash here instead of MO and VA.
Hopefully he has a future later. Like someone else said, maybe mayor of Memphis. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:45:46 AM not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with. Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: poughies on November 05, 2006, 01:46:19 AM And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:47:40 AM And just one other thing, what about Casey.... he ain't a liberal and he seems to do pretty well. Look, I personally really like Jon Tester... but the party should be open to all. Of course Casey is doing well, look who he is running against. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 05, 2006, 01:48:47 AM not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with. Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now. Tradesports has TN 16.8% MT 63.5% Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Eraserhead on November 05, 2006, 01:50:14 AM not like Tester is doing great either! He should be wayyyy up. And he had a lot more to work with. Montana is more Republican than TN and Tester still has a better than 50% chance of winning. Ford has about a 10% chance now. Tradesports has TN 16.8% MT 63.5% Of course they may not have fully priced in the latest polls. I wasn't going by Tradesports here but that basically backs me up anyway. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Adlai Stevenson on November 05, 2006, 05:15:28 AM What happened to Ford? He was doing so well and admittedly Corker's campaign was in a desultory state at one stage. I don't care, the DSCC did force the Republicans to spend more money here than they would have liked.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Gustaf on November 05, 2006, 06:33:36 AM Montana isn't really much more Republican than Tennesse. Both have Democratic Governors, both have one Democratic House of Congress (Montana then has one tied, Tennessee one GOP). Montana has a Republican House Rep, Tennessee has 6-5 to the Democrats, Tennessee has two Republican senators and Montana has one from each party.
It's true that Bush won Montana by 20% and Tennessee by 14%, by even so the difference isn't THAT big. Finally, Montana seems to be trending Democrat while Tennessee is going in the other direction. But I admit that all that said, Ford should be doing better than he is. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 05, 2006, 06:36:32 AM Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future.
--- Montana is certainly a less Democratic state than Tennessee. Whether it's more Republican or not, depends on how thee measures things. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: 7,052,770 on November 05, 2006, 08:39:21 AM Ford will still pull this out, don't worry.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Democratic Hawk on November 05, 2006, 08:50:36 AM :(
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: TheresNoMoney on November 05, 2006, 09:36:59 AM Yes, Ford is done.
I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Ben. on November 05, 2006, 09:38:30 AM Ah well... he's young a still has a long carrer ahead of him, I still think (even if it's Mason-Dixon) this poll seems an oddly wide lead for Corker, at the moment I'd have him winning by 2-4 points... and going on to be a pretty non-descript Senator.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Conan on November 05, 2006, 12:13:05 PM I could care less if Ford loses.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: bgwah on November 05, 2006, 12:19:00 PM Aw, I was hoping he would win...
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 05, 2006, 12:22:03 PM Yes, Ford is done. I'm really not sure what caused such a dramatic collapse so quick. I always thought Corker would pull it out in the end, but that it would be within 2%. I had the same thought, given the nature of the race in the last month and a half, for Ford to drop through the floor so suddenly is very odd. Which is why I think anything with Ford not within 5 is not right. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: © tweed on November 05, 2006, 12:23:59 PM Great job at winning elections, DLC. Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future. Oh, stop. He did fine. This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks. He did a nice job. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Conan on November 05, 2006, 12:32:32 PM Great job at winning elections, DLC. Maybe the Democrats should try a candidate not from Memphis and not with that bloody surname in future. Oh, stop. He did fine. This race wasn't really winable and he made people believe for a few weeks. He did a nice job. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: nini2287 on November 05, 2006, 12:44:46 PM This race could have been winnable with a white moderate who doesnt come from a corrupt family and that grew up in Tennessee. Ford was your best choice (along with some of the white moderate Congressmen--but their open seat would go to the GOP). Against another candidate, Corker would be leading by at least 10 points all year. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: WalterMitty on November 05, 2006, 12:52:53 PM Great job at winning elections, DLC. yes obviously a jed lamont dailykos liberal would have a much better chance at winning in tn than a moderate. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Adlai Stevenson on November 05, 2006, 01:33:56 PM Why are people, especially Democrats, tearing Ford apart? This is one poll in any case I find it hard to believe Ford is at just 38%. He has been around the 43%-47% since around September according to most polls. And at one stage Corker and the state GOP were really bleeding; Ford has run a very effective campaign. I still think Corker will win but by around 51%-52% to Ford's 47%-48% and incidentally I don't think this is the last we have heard of Harold Ford. Maybe in a future Democratic administration he would make a good Attorney General.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2006, 02:14:24 PM If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: © tweed on November 05, 2006, 02:23:56 PM If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one. Why this rather than RI? Your "lack of confidence" in RI polling? Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2006, 02:34:58 PM If there's one Mason-Dixon poll that I think is probably an outlier, it's this one. Why this rather than RI? Your "lack of confidence" in RI polling? Yes. Additionally, Charlie Cook's statement of a couple of days ago that Burns and Chafee had move back to being roughly even and had momentum on their side. He's a smart guy, but in the House, he's become too reliant on his own Cook/RT Strategies polling, which is hurting his objectivity. I can't see the Republicans losing less than 20 seats in the House and I could definitely see them losing 40-45 in a wave, but he's seeing things there that are not happening. Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: opebo on November 05, 2006, 08:59:48 PM It is just silly to blame Ford for this loss - the man is a black running in Tennessee.
Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: HardRCafé on November 05, 2006, 10:13:41 PM Ford will still pull this out, don't worry. Like Fleming? Title: Re: Tennessee Ford is finito [mason dixon] Post by: Boris on November 05, 2006, 10:18:09 PM Great job at winning elections, DLC. Ford ran one of the best campaigns out of any candidate in the entire nation, but this was a really tough race for him to win. He had the lead for a week or so, but Corker revitalized his campaign and should win by about four points, maybe a similar margin that Gore lost the state by. This poll is definitely an outlier. |