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Title: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 13, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
Obama/Obama. Talk about a massacre.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on December 13, 2006, 09:26:34 PM
Ken Blackwell obviously wins every state


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 13, 2006, 09:41:28 PM

That sounds too hackish, even for you.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on December 13, 2006, 09:43:57 PM

1.) Sarcasm
2.) I would love you to prove I am a hack, please review my posts such as my predictions for last night's race, my favorite and least favorite senators, and my opinions of American politicians in general.  Idealogue and hack are very different


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Padfoot on December 13, 2006, 10:08:06 PM
If this is how you do in Ohio I don't think you stand a chance anywhere else.

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Here's what the national map would be:

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Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Smash255 on December 13, 2006, 10:27:33 PM

1.) Sarcasm
2.) I would love you to prove I am a hack, please review my posts such as my predictions for last night's race, my favorite and least favorite senators, and my opinions of American politicians in general.  Idealogue and hack are very different

Granted you were right about A race, doesn't mean your not a hack.


Exhibit A

Are you expecting Biden or Kerry to run for President or retire?  Because otherwise they are totally safe.

Yes, and the GOP has a strong candidate in MA (Romney) and so does DE (Castle)

Ehibit B (even saying 10% here is asinine)
Look I know I'm going to get called all kinds of names for this, but seriously this is starting to look like a real possibility.  It could happen two ways:

5 out of the 7 endangered GOP win, coupled w/a Steele and Kean victory
Polling suggests DeWine, Santorum, and Chaffee are the only decided underdogs in their race, Kean is even and Steele is gaining momentum and running an amazing campaign

Second way:

4 out of 7 endangered win (meaning Santorum, DeWine, and Chafee could lose) and Kean, Steele, and McGavick win

I know the odds are very low, but is there a chance this happens?

I'd putting the odds at 10%


more hackish stupidity

Here's my new ratings (I have learned polls mean nothing)

D 15+: CA, DE, FL, HI, MA, NY, NM, WV, WI
D >5<15: MI, MN, ND, WA, NE
D<5: OH, RI
R<5: NJ, MD, TN, PA, MT, MO, VA
R>5<15: AZ, NV
R>15: IN, ME, MS, TX, UT, WY

I: CT, VT

House Ratings:

D Pickup: AZ-8, FL-16, IN-2, IN-8, IN-9, IO-1, NY-24, NC-11, OH-18, PA-7, PA-10, TX-22, WI-8, VT-AL
R Pickup: IL-8

Senate: 55 R, 44 D, 1 IND
House:  220 R, 215 D



I could go on with more inane hackishness, but I will stop there, otherwise this post will be too damn long




Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: SPQR on December 14, 2006, 02:34:38 PM

1.) Sarcasm
2.) I would love you to prove I am a hack, please review my posts such as my predictions for last night's race, my favorite and least favorite senators, and my opinions of American politicians in general.  Idealogue and hack are very different

Granted you were right about A race, doesn't mean your not a hack.


Exhibit A

Are you expecting Biden or Kerry to run for President or retire?  Because otherwise they are totally safe.

Yes, and the GOP has a strong candidate in MA (Romney) and so does DE (Castle)

Ehibit B (even saying 10% here is asinine)
Look I know I'm going to get called all kinds of names for this, but seriously this is starting to look like a real possibility.  It could happen two ways:

5 out of the 7 endangered GOP win, coupled w/a Steele and Kean victory
Polling suggests DeWine, Santorum, and Chaffee are the only decided underdogs in their race, Kean is even and Steele is gaining momentum and running an amazing campaign

Second way:

4 out of 7 endangered win (meaning Santorum, DeWine, and Chafee could lose) and Kean, Steele, and McGavick win

I know the odds are very low, but is there a chance this happens?

I'd putting the odds at 10%


more hackish stupidity

Here's my new ratings (I have learned polls mean nothing)

D 15+: CA, DE, FL, HI, MA, NY, NM, WV, WI
D >5<15: MI, MN, ND, WA, NE
D<5: OH, RI
R<5: NJ, MD, TN, PA, MT, MO, VA
R>5<15: AZ, NV
R>15: IN, ME, MS, TX, UT, WY

I: CT, VT

House Ratings:

D Pickup: AZ-8, FL-16, IN-2, IN-8, IN-9, IO-1, NY-24, NC-11, OH-18, PA-7, PA-10, TX-22, WI-8, VT-AL
R Pickup: IL-8

Senate: 55 R, 44 D, 1 IND
House:  220 R, 215 D



I could go on with more inane hackishness, but I will stop there, otherwise this post will be too damn long



You forgot to mention PA going Republican...




Anyway Obama/Obama.An absolute massacre.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on December 14, 2006, 06:29:16 PM
Smash that was some really poor examples and considering I stated I don't believe most of my predictions that is some pretty bad examples, find me something were I endorsed a candidate or policy simply because they are a Republican


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Gabu on December 14, 2006, 10:14:02 PM

Then why make them?


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: WalterMitty on December 15, 2006, 12:38:19 PM
write in: jodi rell/kerry healey


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 15, 2006, 01:06:24 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: AndrewTX on December 15, 2006, 01:48:03 PM
If this is how you do in Ohio I don't think you stand a chance anywhere else.

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Here's what the national map would be:

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How the hell does Obama and Patrick pick up South Dakota, Montana, and most of the south. I hope to god that you are being sarcastic, and I'm either too tired or too lazy to realize it.

 If not... may god have mercy on your soul.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Padfoot on December 15, 2006, 02:11:47 PM
I used a highly inaccurate formula to make that map.  In the governor's race Blackwell ran 12 points behind Bush's '04 performance in Ohio.  So I then took the '04 results and shifted 12 points from Bush to Kerry.  So basically what I got was every state that voted less than 62% for Bush goes to Obama if he were to run against Blackwell.  Like I said, highly inaccurate.  I still think its a landslide defeat.  Blackwell really sucks and he flip-flops worse than Kerry.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: AndrewTX on December 15, 2006, 04:03:39 PM
I used a highly inaccurate formula to make that map.  In the governor's race Blackwell ran 12 points behind Bush's '04 performance in Ohio.  So I then took the '04 results and shifted 12 points from Bush to Kerry.  So basically what I got was every state that voted less than 62% for Bush goes to Obama if he were to run against Blackwell.  Like I said, highly inaccurate.  I still think its a landslide defeat.  Blackwell really sucks and he flip-flops worse than Kerry.

Ahh, yes highly inaccurate indeed, but still funny.  I wouldn't want to vote for either candidate, but I would probably go for Obama over Blackwell.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on December 15, 2006, 05:34:20 PM

Because starting debate is more fun than going w/everyone else


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Gabu on December 15, 2006, 05:49:52 PM

Because starting debate is more fun than going w/everyone else

Fair enough.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: Smash255 on December 15, 2006, 05:58:30 PM

Because starting debate is more fun than going w/everyone else

Making asinine predictions isn't starting debate its just being a stupid little kid.


Title: Re: Barrack Obama/Deval Patrick vs. Ken Blackwell/Alan Keyes
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on December 15, 2006, 06:01:47 PM

Because starting debate is more fun than going w/everyone else

Making asinine predictions isn't starting debate its just being a stupid little kid.

That is simply a matter of opinion