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Title: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: CultureKing on March 02, 2007, 12:19:24 AM I'm just curious as to how many counties were close enough that a change in votes for Nader going to Gore would have made gore the victor in the given county. In my home state of Washington Gore would have won 2 more counties.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Alcon on March 02, 2007, 01:14:57 AM Same deal - Skagit and Whatcom
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on March 02, 2007, 02:44:00 AM In Kentucky, he would have won a whole bunch, because people hated Bush so much.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Alcon on March 02, 2007, 03:25:19 AM In Kentucky, he would have won a whole bunch, because people hated Bush so much. I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on March 02, 2007, 03:27:44 AM I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway). Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: KEmperor on March 02, 2007, 03:30:55 AM I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway). Incorrect. Check the results. Bush won Kentucky by a very comfortable margin, not much would have changed. In Fayette for example: Gore 44.8% 47,277 Bush 51.7% 54,495 Nader 2.9% 3,052 Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Alcon on March 02, 2007, 03:32:46 AM I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway). No... Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: KEmperor on March 02, 2007, 03:36:22 AM I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway). No... Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher. You're looking at the 2004 results there, but Bush still got over 50% in Fayette in 2000 too. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: HardRCafé on March 03, 2007, 06:23:21 AM Nader was not even on the ballot where I was.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Alcon on March 03, 2007, 11:21:24 AM I think you misunderstand the question. I looked it up for you - it's three (Greenup, Lyon and Rowan). Also Fayette for certain, and probably also Letcher (unless Gore actually carried it anyway). No... Bush got 52.88% in Fayette and 52.96% in Letcher. You're looking at the 2004 results there, but Bush still got over 50% in Fayette in 2000 too. Oops, yeah. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 03, 2007, 02:06:06 PM Quite a few, including my home county :(
Goodhue, Beltrami, Washington, Dakota, Anoka, Blue Earth, Nicollet, Yellow Medicine, Pope, Chippewa, Cook Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: nclib on March 03, 2007, 09:51:35 PM Nader wasn't on the ballot in N.C.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Verily on March 04, 2007, 12:03:20 AM Two, Somerset and Ocean. Cape May County would have been absurdly close.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: adam on March 07, 2007, 10:30:13 PM Nader tipped both Travis County to Bush (by obtaining over 10%) and Kleberg County (by obtaining 1.42%)
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Bacon King on March 08, 2007, 06:35:09 PM None. Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in and only gained a significant amount of votes around Clarke County (college town), which went for Gore anyway.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: minionofmidas on March 09, 2007, 04:58:58 PM (adding 100% of Nader's tally to Gore's)
Maine - Lincoln, Penobscot, Waldo NH - Hillsborough, Rockingham VT - Orange, Orleans NY - Cortland, Dutchess, Oswego, Otsego, Saratoga NJ - has been done PA - none (there's only county that Bush won with under 50% of the vote, Monroe, and he outpolled Gore+Nader by 7 votes there) OH - Columbiana, Harrison, Stark. Ottawa would be an exact tie Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: minionofmidas on March 09, 2007, 05:11:45 PM IN - Monroe, unsurprisingly
IL - Marion, Vermilion, Winnebago MI - Alger, Gladwin, St Clair, Schoolcraft, Shiawassee WI - 13 counties, which I don't feel like listing. Go to the 2000 results page. All the R40 shade counties except Manitowoc and Wood. MN - has been done IA - Fayette, Jasper, Palo Alto, Poweshiek, Warren, Winneshiek In addition, Hagelin cost Gore Jefferson Co. MO, ND, NE - none SD - Nader not on ballot KS - Atchison, Crawford, Shawnee Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: minionofmidas on March 09, 2007, 05:28:37 PM VA - Albemarle, Fairfax, Nelson, Westmoreland, Wise counties, Radford, Williamsburg cities
NC, Ga, KY have been done SC - none FL - Madison TN - Coffee MS - Chickasaw (despite Nader finishing behind Buchanan) AR - Conway, Sevier LA - Red River, Martin OK - none TX - has been done MT - Missoula ID, WY - none CO - Clear Creek, Conejos, Eagle, Gunnison, La Plata, Routt NM - Sandoval AZ - Pinal Utah, Nevada - none WA - has been done OR - Clackamas, Tillamook CA - Alpine, SB, San Joaquin, Ventura AK - House Districts 13, 15, 16, 29, 39 Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: nclib on March 09, 2007, 05:58:14 PM (adding 100% of Nader's tally to Gore's) Maine - Lincoln, Penobscot, Waldo NH - Hillsborough, Rockingham VT - Orange, Orleans NY - Cortland, Dutchess, Oswego, Otsego, Saratoga NJ - has been done PA - none (there's only county that Bush won with under 50% of the vote, Monroe, and he outpolled Gore+Nader by 7 votes there) OH - Columbiana, Harrison, Stark. Ottawa would be an exact tie IN - Monroe, unsurprisingly IL - Marion, Vermilion, Winnebago MI - Alger, Gladwin, St Clair, Schoolcraft, Shiawassee WI - 13 counties, which I don't feel like listing. Go to the 2000 results page. All the R40 shade counties except Manitowoc and Wood. MN - has been done IA - Fayette, Jasper, Palo Alto, Poweshiek, Warren, Winneshiek In addition, Hagelin cost Gore Jefferson Co. MO, ND, NE - none SD - Nader not on ballot KS - Atchison, Crawford, Shawnee VA - Albemarle, Fairfax, Nelson, Westmoreland, Wise counties, Radford, Williamsburg cities NC, Ga, KY have been done SC - none FL - Madison TN - Coffee MS - Chickasaw (despite Nader finishing behind Buchanan) AR - Conway, Sevier LA - Red River, Martin OK - none TX - has been done MT - Missoula ID, WY - none CO - Clear Creek, Conejos, Eagle, Gunnison, La Plata, Routt NM - Sandoval AZ - Pinal Utah, Nevada - none WA - has been done OR - Clackamas, Tillamook CA - Alpine, SB, San Joaquin, Ventura AK - House Districts 13, 15, 16, 29, 39 Does anyone have the time to list which of these counties voted for Kerry in 2004? Off the top of my head, I think Travis (TX), Stark (OH), Alpine (CA), and Monroe (IN) did. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: minionofmidas on March 09, 2007, 06:03:42 PM Of the top off mine, the Vermont ones, Jefferson IA, Albemarle and Fairfax VA, Missoula, and I'm fairly sure at least some of the Colorado ones.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: NewFederalist on March 13, 2007, 12:57:12 PM Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in... Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. 8) Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: KEmperor on March 13, 2007, 04:15:49 PM Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in... Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. 8) There was clearly a spot on the Georgia ballot that said "Write in Nader please:" Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: YRABNNRM on March 13, 2007, 05:36:35 PM Nader was only on the ballot as a write-in... Uh... I don't believe that you are on the ballot if you are a write-in. 8) There was clearly a spot on the Georgia ballot that said "Write in Nader please:" Damn Republicans. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Smash255 on March 14, 2007, 11:02:13 PM Cortland
Dutchess Oswego Nassau went to Gore by 19.44, so the only impact Nader had was holding Gore to under a 20% victory. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Ferdinand on May 17, 2007, 12:47:04 PM Oregon:
Tillamook County: George W. Bush 46.66% Albert Gore Jr. 46.56% Ralph Nader 4.95% Clackamas County: George W. Bush 47.79% Albert Gore Jr. 47.10% Ralph Nader 3.92% I think that is all. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Sensei on May 29, 2007, 12:57:40 PM <----------------- Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 07, 2007, 09:08:00 PM None, Nader was not on the ballot in 2000
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Frodo on July 08, 2007, 09:16:57 PM Bush won Virginia roughly 52 to 44% over Gore, but Nader's margin was such that had he not been on the ballot, Gore stood a fair chance to win Albermarle, Nelson, and Fairfax counties, and would have made it a closer race in Rappahannock and Clarke counties. Overall, the total would have been more like 52 to 46% -not enough to affect the outcome to the extent that the whole state would have flipped, but enough to make it a more respectable showing for Gore.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Erc on July 11, 2007, 03:54:18 PM Up to 5...
Dutchess (0.25% Bush plurality vs. 4.97% Nader) Cortland (0.80% Bush plurality vs. 4.55% Nader) Oswego (0.81% Bush plurality vs. 3.50% Nader) Otsego (3.00% Bush plurality vs. 5.60% Nader) Saratoga (3.44% Bush plurality vs. 4.36% Nader) Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Jaggerjack on July 11, 2007, 04:46:17 PM The Democrats would probably have taken Alpine County (which they did in 2004), and just maybe San Diego, Ventura, San Joaquin, and San Bernandino (unlikely).
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Nym90 on July 14, 2007, 11:29:52 AM Almost certainly St. Clair and Shiawassee counties would've voted for Gore if Nader hadn't been on the ballot. Probably Alger as well, and maybe Gladwin. Schoolcraft would've gone for Gore if he'd gotten all of Nader's votes, but with only 4 to spare; highly unlikely Gore would've won the county.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: phk on July 06, 2009, 06:39:32 PM Pretty irrelevant really.
If Gore had ended up losing CA, it would have been a massive landslide of epic proportions on Bush's part and Nader at that point would be irrelevant. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: tmthforu94 on July 06, 2009, 06:49:36 PM 1-2
Crawford Country, and possibly Atchison County in Kansas. Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Marokai Backbeat on July 06, 2009, 07:28:12 PM 3-5, surprisingly enough.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Stranger in a strange land on July 06, 2009, 08:10:03 PM I lived in Texas at the time. I'm pretty certain Gore would have won Travis had Nader not been on the ballot, but that's probably it.
Title: Re: How did Nader effect Gore in your home state? Post by: Mechaman on July 06, 2009, 10:30:00 PM None at all, Nader didn't even make the ballot. If anything Pat Buchanan and Harry Browne took votes away from Bush, lol.
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